How does one get interested in something?
I see the Glibs with their skilled hobbies, doing things, making things. I’m not a creative type person, I don’t see the same things when I see a block of wood or piece of metal or an old car that lots of other people see. It’s not that I don’t enjoy those things when someone else creates it, I just see the literal thing.
Instead, I see a seed growing into a plant or a tree or a flower. That I understand. Those things that don’t require any input from me, except maybe for a little care or water or fertilizer. A few years ago a friend invited me to watch him work with his honey bees. Like many or most I had my own ideas as to avoid getting involved; who wants to get stung by those thousands of angry bees? He seemed to know quite a bit, had the suit and hat and seemed oblivious to the dangers I saw. Then we took the frames with the honey to his daughter’s house one Sunday; it was like a party, other people had brought a few frames and I got involved in the processing a little, the spinning and the bottling and was rewarded with a jar of honey to take home. Now I really was interested.
The following Spring my friend asked me if I wanted a hive. He would help me, loan or give me the necessary equipment. He gave me enough to set up a hive and even assembled it out in my yard and I was in business, sort of. I still had no idea of what was going on, but I was helping him and in turn he was helping/teaching me but I still wasn’t too involved in the actual process. We weren’t doing very well; we did everything he knew, but our production was rather limited. Seemed like we weren’t progressing very fast.
Then he decided he wasn’t interested anymore and his daughter kind of got tired of us spreading sticky honey all over her kitchen floor and leaving her to clean up the house and the equipment. She asked if I wanted to borrow her extractor and associated equipment. I had space to store all the equipment inside my garage, along with most of the excess (old and dilapidated) hive boxes and frames. Then I found a young guy (about 50 years old) that was interested and he bought a bee suit and I loaned him some of the equipment I had borrowed. We still weren’t very productive, our ROI was always between very negative and deeply negative.
We did that for a couple years, and a visiting fishing friend was here and was a long time beekeeper with lots of expertise. He looked at our setups and taught us some things we weren’t doing, and that year production shot up. He came again the following year and showed us more of his knowledge and skills, and he worked barehanded with only a hat and veil. Our production has soared for the last 3 years. We’re a long ways from professionals, but it’s sure a lot more fun when the honey is plentiful. Best of all we have a party at the extraction time, with Minnesota Hot Dish Pot Luck being on the menu. Most of my friends and neighbors are rather experienced (old) cooks so the food is good/plentiful and highly seasoned for Minnesota people, ketchup and mustard–but not Dijon–being the staples.
Now, for those who are still reading this, I’ll try to pass on some of the things we do.
We tend to think that beekeeping is only important in the summer when the bees are active, but it really is a year round project, with not much going on in the off season but still a little. We don’t winter our bees over; we have tried but the winters here are too severe. We’ve tried covering them, moving them into a shed, surrounding them with bales of hay. Nothing worked. There is hive clean up in the off season however.
What is needed to have bees and to extract the honey, one of the main purposes of having bees?
Equipment needed
For the skilled wood craftsman with a table saw, the boxes are fairly simple to make. For me, however, I buy them precut and assemble them myself. This is a wintertime project that gets me thinking about spring. If you are lucky enough to find some good condition hive boxes on Craigslist or a weekly shopper, even better. The problem with used equipment is there could be diseases or pests included.
A feeder. Here in Central Minnesota our bees come early enough there isn’t any nectar yet available for the bees and they have to be fed. We buy some premade stuff that’s supposed to have protein, but sugar syrup or corn syrup is often used. Follow the recipe for the sugar syrup.
A smoker. They are fairly expensive, about $45 or so but essential. We use dry red pine needles for fuel, creates great smoke.
A hat with a veil. I use a broad brimmed hat with a mosquito net. A bee hat/veil is better, it keeps the bees away from your face better than a mosquito net. Again, pricey, $45 or so.
Long gloves that extend over your sleeves, they have to be flexible enough to use tools but tough enough that the bees can’t sting through them. Kiss another 30-40 bucks away. I use yellow cotton gloves (Mr Cheapskate) but I sometimes get stung around the wrists when the jacket sleeves pull up.
A bee keeper jacket is nice because the veil is zipped directly onto the jacket. Mr CS wears a buttoned up shirt, a jacket zipped all the way up and mosquito net pulled over the turned up collar. So far haven’t gotten bit around the neck or face lately.
A frame tool, about 7-8 bucks but a screwdriver or a flat bar tool for pulling nails would work. The frame tool is a little better. The equipment is available on line, I use Mann Lake Bee Co, mainly because they are only 50 miles away and they have an online catalog as well.
That’s pretty much all the start up equipment.
OK, you found some clean hive boxes and other associated equipment on Craigslist. Buy it all or at least twice as much as you think you’ll need. Make a package offer. Not many people are going to be interested in it, the seller wants to get rid of either the equipment or his/her spouse because often those things may not be compatible.
Where to start
Now that winter is here and all the bee stuff is in my garage, it’s time to start cleaning the hive boxes and frames. Bees are hard workers but tend to be a little untidy inside the hive. They glue everything together with a homemade glue called propolis. I scrape the propolis from the frames and the boxes; it has hardened into something like amber and requires a little work. I like the frames to be clean at the beginning of the season so they can be removed for inspection or moved around inside the hive box.
OK, we’re all cleaned up and finally it’s time to set up the hive in preparation for the bee arrival. I haul my stuff to a location near my garden. It’s a small platform about a foot high and about 6 feet long, big enough for two hives. Has an electric fence around it to keep out bears. We’ve had a few problems over the years and on one occasion required terminal action.
The assembly is bottom board, 2 brood boxes, each with 10 clean frames, feeder tray and top cover. That’s it.
We’ve pre-bought the bees at Mann Lake Bee Co, (Hackensack, MN) and have an appointment on the Saturday after the bees arrived from California, in a 40 ft trailer, usually in May.
We have a ritual. My partner, another friend and I go to pick up the bees. I drive my pick-up. We leave early enough to stop at a country restaurant for breakfast, one of my friends picks up the tab. At Mann Lake it’s a mad house, even though we have an appointment, everyone, including us, arrives a half hour early. There are hundreds of anxious customers. Mann Lake is prepared with lots of people working invoices, sales and helping with the loading. We pick up our protein syrup and any ancillary equipment that we need, head for the bee barn, a greeter takes our invoice and brings out our order of 4 boxes of bees. Bees are sold by the pound; we get 3-pound packages, roughly 10K bees plus a viable queen per pack. The bee boxes remind you of the screened frog boxes you kept your frogs in before they all died waiting for your dad to find the time to take you fishing.
My partner has essentially the same set up at his property, platform/fence/etc. Now we don our bee apparel. We put out his bees first, we spray them with sugar water through the screen, immediately they go into an eating frenzy, cleaning themselves and unconcerned about us. They get roughly dumped into the brood box, my partner opens the queen enclosure and gently places the enclosure in the top brood box. Next comes my attempt to pour the super elixir into the feeder tray, which is now on top of the brood boxes. Cover with the top cover and voila! Do #2 hive and we’re finished. Go to my house and repeat.
After about 2 weeks we will inspect the hives by checking the feeder trays, refilling if necessary.
Usually by this time the bees are finding enough nectar to support themselves. If they seem to be doing well we’ll remove the feeder tray and replace it with a hive box with the clean 10 frames. Now we are hoping that the queen is alive and making babies. We are hoping that in another 2 weeks some of the frames will be filling with honey. I will be doing a visual inspection about 3 times a day, mainly ’cause I am curious and have lots of time, to see if the bees are bringing in pollen.
OK, now it’s been 1 month since we set up the hives and put in the bees.
We do a serious inspection and find some frames are full of honey and capped with wax. We will pull those frames and replace them with empty frames. The honey frames will be placed in plastic bags and put in a freezer in my garage, to avoid any problems with bears or other bees robbing the hive. About every 2 weeks all summer we’ll pull full frames, replace with empty. Sometimes the queen will have moved up into the hive box and begun laying eggs in it. Then we have to use our second hive box so at that point we’re 4 boxes high (2 brood, 2 hive). Happens frequently.
We have about a 3 month season here and with good luck we’ll have close to a 100 or so frames of honey. On the last pull, always the second week end of September, we’ll close out and take all frames that have enough honey in to make it worthwhile. The last step in this stage is to move the bees from my house to my partner’s property. Now instead of 10K per hive we’re looking at 30-40K per hive.
All summer the bees have been rather docile, now they are agitated, we have stripped most all of the honey.
We have the smoker pouring out smoke, that seems to help a little to quiet them down. I pick up a brood box and carry it to the truck. There are thousands of bees that are eager to bite me, I’m the Cheap guy with the short yellow gloves and they have found the skin around my wrists. Finally we get them into the truck, minus those that were flying or foraging when we were busy moving them. Without headgear/veils it would be impossible. This past September, I got hit 7 times that day; the stings aren’t so bad but always itch for a few days. We haul the bees about 5 miles and put them with my partner’s bees. We move the bees to avoid having them around on the following Sunday when we spin out the honey. If we didn’t move them we’d have those bees trying to recover the honey that we had taken all summer and it would be tough to try to work. Innocent folks would get stung.
Now comes the good part.
After the rather routine stuff all summer comes the Honey Harvest. On the 3rd Sunday of September we spin out the honey. We have an extractor that looks like an old fashion ringer washing machine tub. On the day before, I have taken all the frames out of the freezer, put them into empty hive boxes, warmed them up so the honey would flow easier. Early Sunday we start to work, uncapping the frames, spin them in the centrifuge and strain and bottle our work. We have a crew that shows up, some fly in from Dallas/Seattle, some come from Minneapolis. Guests show up about 10-11 AM and the finale is at noon when all the ladies bring out their secret recipes of hot dish and we have a great pot luck lunch. We eat and go back to work, the guests renew their acquaintances and start to drift off. The following day I’ll take a hot water hose out and wash the equipment, let it dry for a day or two and cover it up ’til the next season. Easy-peasey clean up.
Many years ago we started with chips/dip and venison sticks, now its become a great buffet. This year we had about 40 people, some were classmates. The Pope came and blessed our endeavors, hopefully in 2019 we’ll have more Glibs, all are welcome. Family friendly, entertaining, educational.
If any Glibs are interested, go on line to Mann Lake Bee. See their catalog. I have seen hives in Austin, TX, in the city, easy for urban dwellers if you have a privacy fence. Check locally for bee keeper associations, find a club, or best of all, find a partner with some knowledge, help him for a year or two, watch YouTube videos. Don’t expect to make any money selling honey, the equipment is too expensive unless you are serious.
We don’t sell any, just give it away for gifts. One has a lot more friends when one is gifting honey. I’ve heard that there is some potable beverage that can be made with honey and other ingredients. I’ll be happy to entertain questions.
I started writing my mead article. It includes a line “let’s plead with Fourscore to write up a detailed article on processing honey.” I can delete that now.
my grandma used to make Hidromel when grandpa had hives, which I think is mead
You sure she didn’t use Calamine when he had hives?
*cheese eating grin*
very droll
*narrows gaze*
WORLD BECOME BACKWARDS, WAIT THIS MEAN STEVE SMITH BECOME…. NO NO NO NO! I NO GET RAPED!
It is, generally in the 5-6% ABV range.
Wait, I kept seeing on Facederp how all the bees have been killed by pyrethrins, or something.
Yeah, heard that too. Strangely, the price of bees has remained fairly constant, when inflation has been factored in. Supply/demand, how does it work?
And for some more SCIENCE!!11!!; honey bees aren’t even native to North America. They should be eradicated to return the continent to the way it was before whitey wrecked it.
The cynic in me says some cheapskate farmers – bitching to each other at harvest time as usual – were bitching about the cost of beekeeping services and hoped to increase the supply of beekeepers so they could drive down the price they have to pay for the service.
Further research tells me it is the bumblebee that is threatened, not the honey bee. Probably more due to herbicides than pesticides; while the pesticides have an effect the herbicides kill off their food source.
So the news sources are 10% correct and 90% wrong and being so wrong actually makes things worse than not reporting anything at all.
Nope. Colony collapse was big in the news for a while.
It’s disappeared from the mainstream news, but it is one of the big drivers behind these Facebook memes.
…and not a small amount of pontificating on the TV series Elementary.
Honey doubled in price between the late 2000’s and early 2010’s which is kind of important to a mead maker.
This was a lovely read, Fourscore. Thank you.
Ditto. It’s too bad I don’t really like honey 🙁
But a great read anyway!
PS. I’m surprised one imports the bees – for some reason I expected you just roll out the welcome mat and they show up….
I also thought you just roll out the welcome mat.
STEVE SMITH APPRECIATE YOU ROLL OUT WELCOME MAT. HE “ROLL OUT” THANK YOU MAT.
BY “ROLL OUT” MEAN…
ROLL IN ROLL OUT BOTH PART OF GOOD RAPE
Agreed. Really interesting.
Amazing what humans can do, and who we partner up with.
We haul the bees about 5 miles and put them with my partner’s bees.
Do colonies interact? And what becomes of them in the winter? D-E-D dead?
My neighbor (in Duluth) has only had one hive ever survive a winter.
Each hive is an entity, its possible to mix them together if one hive is queenless. They will live as long as the weather isn’t too harsh and they have honey. Since we’ve harvested most of the honey they will have a shortfall and die. When the temps get down to a -20 and more they have a tough time even with honey.
Can you tailor the size of your hive, or is the queen going to spit out as many eggs as she pleases? A little boutique hive sounds fun, but I wouldn’t want to try hosting thousands of bees in the city.
It is alleged that the queen lays up to 1000 eggs day. She’s busy. The life expectancy of the workers is about 6 weeks (in the active time) and they’ll work themselves to death. Along with ants and termites they are the perfect socialists.
For those interested:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eusociality
That was kind of my question. If you didn’t harvest all the honey and sheltered the hives, would they survive? Not possible or not cost effective?
A secondary benefit is that I have a garden and my belief is that the bees help a lot in the pollination, I see them in the blossoms,etc. I guess our purpose in harvesting the honey is to reclaim some our our costs.
Awesome:) Thank you for sharing!
Pater Dean got interested in beekeeping. In classic Dean fashion, he is exploring all the errors as his method of learning how to do it right. I believe he has wiped out two colonies so far.
Great read! Thank you. We have a few hobby hives in the neighborhood.
I enjoyed this article. Thanks for sharing.
Great article, Fourscore, I can’t eat the bee vomit (I’m diabetic), but I’d be willing to help next September.
You are invited, as all the Glibs are, always the 3rd Sunday in Sep. We wouldn’t expect you to work but I’m sure you could spell someone for a few minutes to get your hands sticky. The camaraderie is great, food is super, family friendly.
This awesome, and just like with all the rest of the hobby stories, damn I wish I had time to do stuff like this.
You did fail to mention one other use for the bees…
Hmmmm…..so who is Fourscore killing to bring back his goddamned honey?
At least you have celebrity support for your hobby…
Looks more like progressive locusts, consuming everything in their path without producing a damned thing.
“The California Locust”
That’s the western species. Here in Virginia, we get the New Jersey Locust.
Not the DC one?
The DC locust is more of a spreading species. the New Jersey (it’s New York where I’m at) locust is a migratory species.
The full gif, tho
and he worked barehanded with only a hat and veil.
My grandpa did the same thing. He and my uncle sold in a few hippie marts for a while and worked out deals with local farmers to locate their hives on certain fields. My uncle still does beekeeping for a local farm
I’d love to get into it at some point. Bees are cool, and real, fresh honey is a divine experience. Getting stung sucks, but it sucks less each time. For me, it is another fond memory of doing real work with my grandpa. Maybe when I buy my hobby farm in 10 years, I’ll get some hives.
Funniest bee related story. A farmer called my grandpa about a swarm of bees on his tractor. We get there and my grandpa approaches the swarm with little more than a pair of gloves and a veil. The bees, despite being aggressive, didn’t sting him as long as he stayed 10 feet away from the swarm.
I on the other hand, hopped out of the truck 50 yards away and was immediately stung. Turns out my brown hair and beard triggered the “bear” defense in the already amped up bees.
Doood…I’ve been bingeing on Youtube beekeeping videos. Mainly Crazy Russian Hacker (because I follow his other videos besides beekeeping), and Aussie Backyard Food.
Any other YT beekeeping recommendations? I like detailed technical stuff about queen excluders and capped honey and brood and splitting hives, etc.
Oh, bee hive.
KK, check with your local library for some books, they will probably give you more info. We don’t use queen excluders ’cause some claim they are also bee excluders. The workers waste time/energy squeezing through the small ports.
I just like watching people work with the bees and give all the esoteric details. I may beekeep myself at some point in the future, but in the meantime, I like watching quality keepers.
Here’s Crazy Russian Hacker’s bee videos: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPw1VbYiNnHkwfE697Yqach94hRbbKFsM
Also the debate about wood vs. polystyrene is interesting.
Aircraft…bees… If it flies, KK likes it?
Also bladesmithing and, more recently, Japanese stuff. REEEEEEEE!
So we need a beekeeper with a nifty wakazushi to fly in, via a restored Zero?
Restored A340-600 and I’m in!
What about little people (for very brief periods of time)?
Thanks for writing this up. I looked into it locally, and while it’s legal (as long as certain steps are taken) in the city, the girlfriend is terrified of bees, which kind of puts a damper on the whole thing. One of our neighbors across the street has a hive, but he told us he’s never gotten a harvest of honey out of it.
Wait, I kept seeing on Facederp how all the bees have been killed by pyrethrins, or something.
I guess all those cute fuzzy honey bees I keep seeing around here must be some sort of robotic simulacra.
Those are NSA ‘bees’.
They are.
neato
NewWife is sponsoring a hive for her folks in north Florida. So, how do we convince the little buggers to go find only tupelo pollen?
Don, they always seem to find what’s available. When tupelo is the most convenient and plentiful they’ll find it. The problem is us, we don’t know which is which when the bees bring it in. We call ours Wildflower, covers all bases. All tastes good to me. I have a preference for dark honey (buckwheat comes to mind), stronger flavor.
Buckwheat honey is delicious! However I’m partial to clover.
From what I remember reading, most honeys are just named after the fields they were taken to. But, if there’s a easier source of sugar around they’ll use that. I’d be really tempted to see what would happen if you feed the bees wort that they then made into honey (which you could then make into mead).
What is the sugar content of wort relative to nectar? Or are you going to lock them in a cage with the wort vats so they can’t forage normally?
I believe wort will have a much higher sugar content. It’s trivial to get a SG of over 1.050, and it’s possible to get a SG over 1.100. If you put it near by, that would be the easier source of sugar (such as the mint honey and green honey made by honeybees foraging dumped candy that I linked above). I didn’t find anything on some quick searching as to the SG of nectar, just the sugar makeup. I also didn’t find anything talking about the ratio of nectar harvested to honey production. I’m sure it’s out there, but that’s too much research for me to look up at work.
Okay.
My head’s been in sanity checking some parts of a fictional world for details no reader will ever really notice…
If it helps, 1 pound of honey mixed with a gallon of water will wind up with a SG of ~ 1.035.
Top response to Goolge — how many flowers to make honey —
In order to produce 1 pound of honey, 2 million flowers must be visited. A hive of bees must fly 55,000 miles to produce a pound of honey. One bee colony can produce 60 to 100 pounds of honey per year. An average worker bee makes only about 1/12 teaspoon of honey in its lifetime.
We had 400 lbs from 4 hives this year, our best ever. That’s a great yield in this part of MN. (At 3 lbs to quart, do the math). Occasionally we’ll lose a hive (queen dies or bees swarm). My partner and I are partners so we just divide by two but when I clean up I’ll get another 25-30 lbs out of the trimmings, he lets me keep all of that for my work.
That’s about 26 5-gallon batches of mead you got there.
*does some math*
That’s a shitload of mead!
“That’s about 26 5-gallon batches of mead you got there.”
…go on, I am listening.
You’ll need to wait until my mead articles post.
Ha Ha, work you bastards! Work!
Single variety honey is generally produced by putting the hives where a single floral source is in bloom. This is usually, but no always, tied to commercial agriculture. When the commercial crop is bloom, the beekeepers put their hives in the fields. When the crop is done blooming, the beekeepers harvest the honey and move elsewhere.
Some crops, like almonds, require bees to pollinate. So the farmer will pay beekeepers to put hives in the fields. Lots of big commercial honey producers go to California to pollinate the almonds. Then they hang around and let the bees visit the citrus orchards to make “orange” blossom honey. Citrus does not require bees, so the farmers get annoyed when the beekeepers put hives outside the orchard to collect citrus nectar without paying the farmers anything.
To get tupelo honey, you put a bunch of hives on a barge and drag it out into the swamps of North Florida and South Georgia while the tupelo trees are in bloom. The bees collect the nectar from the flowers and make honey.
As soon as the blooms drop from the tupelo trees, you drag the barges back in from the swamp and harvest the honey before the bees start going to new flowers.
I am starting two batches of Tupelo mead this weekend.
Beekeeping is some next-level stuff, man. I don’t have the patience or the pain-tolerance. A buddy of mine at work has a hive. He came into work one morning having been stung in his left eyelid, looking about how you’d expect. It reaffirmed for me that there are some things I prefer not to do myself.
Your honey extractor is very tiny, NTTAWWT.
So you Americans chew on Honeycombs with honey still in? or is that a Romanian thing?
My grandfather was into the honey thing. 35 hives he had. I spend quite some time as a kid cranking the centrifuge, which is what we called the thing that extracted the honey, but it was quite bigger than yours. Back in his youth my grandfather traveled with the hives but when I was around he had settled close to Bucharest in a place with lots of ” false acacia” and linden trees. These are the main honeys of Romania followed by something called poliflora which means lots of flowers although it is often dominated by sunflower. I like the acacia one most. The most interesting honeys made here are mint – although it is rarely made in perfect years – and “miere de mana de brad” made from some aphids that live on fir trees.
Chewing on honeycombs is one of life’s great pleasures.
^^
In Romania it is also popular to use something called “queen milk” which google tells might be “Royal jelly” which is seen as having great medicinal properties. Also propolis is used medicinally
Dad swears by bee pollen pellets. I think he’s kidding himself.
I believe, with no scientific proof, that a little honey every day (I put a little on my oatmeal every morning) helps to keep allergies away. Since our honey has been gathered across the seasonal spectrum of blossoming flowers we are exposed to a little of everything. We don’t pasteurize or fine filter the honey so there is pollen in the honey. Easy to make up stuff, too, when one doesn’t have any allergies to start with.
Obligatory…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVP31ofaU4w
https://www.beesweet.com/shop/
poliflora would be the equivalent to “wildflower” honey in the US. Meaning the bees went to lots of different kinds of flowers to collect nectar to make honey.
Neat
Thanks
Shout out to the U of Montana Beekeeping School https://www.umt.edu/sell/programs/bee/
They offer credit/non credit beekeeping courses if you want to go that route. At one time, they also offered a one or two day practicum but not sure if they still do that. Still haven’t gotten around to starting that.
U of MN, not to be outdone, opened their bee sanctuary, oops, research center a year or so ago. Follow the money. Hopefully we’ll see some benefits, like giant honey producers being produced. I’m waiting…
Thanks for the article Fourscore. I’m going to forward to Mrs. SSD. She has wanted to start a hive for several years now, but something always comes up.
I’ve heard they need a water source so have plans to build a little koi-type pond at the top of a hill that contains our fruit orchard. I was going to put the hives next to it so they can get water from the pond and pollinate the orchard. Maybe fence it off and keep geese and ducks there as well to fertilize the orchard and eat the fallen fruit.
We’re close to a river but we set out water as well. The bees are drinking dew from the grass/plants early in the morning, too.
Buzz buzz buzz, buzz buzz buzz, Buzz! Buzz! Buzz!
Great article FS! Full of info, but you also have an engaging writing style. Fun!
I’ve been thinking semi-seriously about beekeeping for years. Maybe your article will be the push I need. I’m going to check out Mann Lake Bee Co. and I will also do my darndest to attend your bee social next year. I assume someone always brings a tater-tot hotdish to the potluck?
Nice article. Still sounds like work though.
However, I was very interested in this: “our order of 4 boxes of bees. Bees are sold by the pound; we get 3-pound packages, roughly 10K bees plus a viable queen per pack. ” The business of selling bees sounds like less work, but I wouldn’t know. But still fascinated about the packaging of bees and ensuring a viable queen in each.
Haven’t seen the tater tot hot dish but I’m looking forward to it.
Mann Lake Co would be on your route. Its a 1000 employee company in a dinky little town. One of the major bee equipment distribs in the US.
You’re down by Brainerd, right?
*remembers time at Camp Ripley, gags*
It’s better now, they have breweries all over the place down there. Some are even good!
About 30 miles north, north of Crosby, 16 miles.
Swiss, I did my penance at Ripley 1955-56.
Would a hive or two be happy on say 3 acres?
I suppose a landscape surrounded by corn/bean fields would not be their ideal habitat.
When I say happy, I suppose what I really mean is would the humans who live on that 3 acres not be getting stings going about normal activities.
You may notice an increased presence of bees, but they’re not particularly aggressive (africanized bees aside) if you get near the hive. My grandpa had 2 or 3 hives on the side of his detached garage, and you couldn’t tell the were there when you were at the front or the back of the garage.
The only times I got stung while doing something less than stealing their honey were the story I told above (agitated swarm) and when I was mowing right in front of the hives.
I have a friend in St Charles MO that keeps hives in her backyard. The bees collect honey from the flowers that are planted by the city court house a few blocks away. She says the bees will go down to the river half a mile a way to get water during dry spells if she doesn’t remember to put out water.
Bees will travel long distances, a couple miles or more, to find pollen/nectar. Like some folks in CA/AZ they will follow the blossoms and find stuff until frost shuts down the growing season. I see them on the corn tassels. My neighbors a mile or two away tell me they have bees, probably mine, in their garden and are happy with that. Not sure about beans though. We have zero farming here, the bees start with the pine pollen, roadside wildflowers, other tree blossoms.
Now I need to taste your honey.
These euphemisms are getting much less euphemistic.
Iowa isn’t too far, if you are taking a vacation (during warmer weather) we have a modern cabin in the woods that stays empty most of the time. It needs to be used and you would be welcome.
I’ll find a reason to get up there next summer.
I’ll bring you some mead.
Sounds great to me, are you a fisherman? This is lake country.
No, much worse. I play golf.
A number of course nearby but not my game.
That was a really enjoyable read, thank you for taking the time to write and share it.
Great read, thanks! I always enjoy it when somebody shares a hobby.
Now we know what you look like. You’re braver than I am.
/insert Sherlock Holmes reference here
Braver may not be the right word. We use a lot of smoke which helps keep the bees calm, until the time to move them (see the next to last picture). They really get agitated after we’ve ripped off their summer’s work and start moving the hive boxes into the back of the truck but then a couple squirts of sugar water quiets them down a bit. I’m happy to have a partner that’s willing to do a lot of the heavy lifting.
I always just assumed you were this guy.
It isn’t that accurate of a picture. Fourscore is always a bit blurry because he tends to zoom around doing useful stuff.
Fourscore, if you want to embellish your libertarian cred (do we have roadz cred?) you have my permission to post pics showing how you immediately put my orphan to work for your honey mine last fall.
BTW, for any of you wondering, you should refuse any honey that Fourscore tries to give you. Not because it is bad. No, the exact opposite. Once you wife gets a taste of it, she will rave about how wonderful it is and why can’t you do something as good as Fourscore does? Then she will go on and on about how you just sit there looking dumb while Fourscore chops a forest of firewood and puts 20,000 gallons of honey in jars before his first cup of coffee in the morning.
*I have found it wisest to just shut up while the wife is expounding on what she perceives as shortcomings in my character. Definitely do not point out that these shortcomings are exactly what prevented you from being able to marry a much better woman.
I wish I had a picture of Missus Pope with her fingers in the honey tray, becoming an official, certified honey taster. Hope to see you and all the other MN folks in the fall, if not before. I have a trip to the TC scheduled for March, going to the airport again.
NoDak Fakt:
North Dakota is the #1 honey producing state (33.6 million pounds) and in 2017 produced almost as much as the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place states combined.
The same is true of barley, IIRC.
As recently as 2015, ND was #1, although not as dominant as I said. They are now #3 behind Idaho and Montana. Everyone else is negligible.
Actually quite a few crops. And yeah, we’ve been slipping on barley. More and more acres going into corn and soybeans, I suspect. I grew up surrounded by mostly wheat, barley, and sunflowers. Now it’s mostly corn, soybeans, and wheat.
Beekeeping was once used as an example of why Coase’s Theorem is wrong. Later, people with actual knowledge pointed out that well before Coase, beekeepers were in fact following Coase’s Theorem.
As kinnath pointed out, sometimes beekeepers pay to put their hives in a farmer’s field, and sometimes farmer’s pay to have bees put in their field.
I have still never had my related question answered: Legally, are bees miniature cattle?
I’ve had mixed results when trying to milk them.
Most of them are steers.
Venezuela sucks but Bolivia has socialism that works!
https://www.bloombergquint.com/view/venezuela-economic-collapse-has-lessons-for-america-s-socialists
Moneyshot: “[Chavez’s] big mistake was large-scale nationalization of industry and expropriation of private property. Chavez was very fond of nationalizing both foreign- and domestically-owned businesses of all kinds[…]Morales, in contrast, has been much more careful with nationalizations in Bolivia, mostly limiting them to the oil and gas industry and the electric grid — centralized, stable industries where government ownership is common around the world.”
You fuckin’ idiots, nationalizing the private sector is the fucking definition of socialism. Basically you’re saying that Chavez implemented true socialism and it tanked the country whereas Morales is implementing some watered-down not-really-socialism and his country is *not* going down the toilet.
“Venezuela’s critics can also be too sloppy. It’s easy to wave one’s hands and declare that socialism always fails.”
Because it DOES ALWAYS FAIL. Just because you want it to work really, really, really bad does not make it so. Time to grow up red-diaper shit heads.
Hitler was selective about what he nationalized. Just sayin’
He was selective about who he killed as well, just to beat this dead horse the rest of the way. Oddly no one sane gives you credit for only “selectively” committing atrocities.
Great article Fourscore. I grew up with 5 hives nearby when I was younger. I had the opportunity to learn about honeybees from an elderly neighbor when I was 8 or 9. He caught me throwing rocks at his hives adjacent to my yard (this was after a very violent yellow jacket incident that made me want to exterminate all bees). I was made to apologize and help him process the honey that year. I learned my lesson, love local honey, but still despise yellow Jackets.
So, CNN’s top story is of course Pelosi becoming the new speaker of an “energized” house bent on resistance. They even go with a GIF (or edited video, because they’re lying hacks) instead of just a cover photo for the story.
But what’s really funny is that Pelosi stated that the constitution considers her Trump’s equal. CNN literally took this story down on its main page like one second after I saw it because even they realized how stupid the implications of that were not only in terms of their previous coverage of disputes with the House in the Obama era, but just logically. She is a figurehead who represents the majority party in one part of Congress.
Pelosi stated that the constitution considers her Trump’s equal.
Well, strictly, the Constitution considers all of us both her and Trump’s equal.
Dude, it’s like you don’t even royalty
And you people like bees? I’ve got some bees for you. *grabs crotch*
I don’t know what means, either.
I have the date in my calendar FS. I hope to make it up with my kids and wife.
Leap, I recall you wanting to camp out with the kids. I have a very nice spot in front of the cabin, for novices to try. The beauty of it is the cabin would be open in case the mosquitoes get serious, plus the facilities are inside and sleeping in case the camp out doesn’t work exactly right. There are walking roads around the house that aren’t too demanding or long for beginning hikers.
A story that is too dumb for afternoon links.
When he broke his leg at a National Park, strangers had to carry him to safety because of the government shutdown
Good read.
The only comment I have is that I got a good chuckle out of this line:
To a young whippersnapper like myself, that’s not expensive at all. $45 ain’t what it used to be.
My Granddad (who has a decade on you if four-score is still accurate) has a similar sense of money. His kids recently sold his house for him because he can’t live in it any more, and he was telling me how great of an investment it was because he bought it for $25K (in 1960) and it sold for ten times as much (in 2018). Inflation makes things seem so much more expensive now than they used to be.
Showing my age. I was thinking more like expensive for something one would only use a few times a year, hence, my yellow gloves. For 45 bucks I’ll take a couple bee stings a year. I’m the Mr Cheap skate