“Nah, see, you aint’s understandin’ my plan,” the hat said rapidly.
“Why are you talking like that?” the hair asked calmly.
“I reopens the government and do the State of the Union and den Nancy has ta give me The Wall,” the hat said.
“Uh, OK,” the hair said.
“See, I’ll gets to give da speech and get The Wall!’
“Once the government is open, why would Nancy give you anything?”
“Because she said she would, bruh! She can’t back out! I’ve trapped her! It’s genius!”
Donald gently snored in his Oval Office chair, his feet up on his desk.
“It’s genius!” the hat said again, bouncing up and down.
“The government is only funded for three weeks, though,” the hair noted.
“It’s all the time I need. Nancy’s trapped. I’ve got her trapped!”
“You keep saying that, but what makes you think she’s going to give money for The Wall not that she got what she wanted. And can blame the government closing in three weeks on you?”
“You’re not getting it!” the hat wailed.
“What happened to your accent?” the hair asked.
“Shut up. I want The Wall. I need The Wall!”
“The Wall,” Donald mumbled. He farted and sat up.
“I want a Wall,” Donald said.
“Yes, a Wall, yes,” the hat said.
“5.6 billion dollars for the Wall,” Donald said. “It’ll be a great wall. Yuge Wall. No fucking slats, either. I want a real Wall.”
“You just had to go and wake him up, didn’t you?” the hair asked.
“Send troops to the border!” Donald said.
“Build The Wall high!” the hat said.
“Troops and a yuge Wall,” Donald crowed. “I want it high in the sky. Like real high! And made out of ice!”
alt-text spoilers, bruh
“And the troops,” the hat said. “The troops have to be committed.”
“Yes!” Donald hissed.
“I knew I shouldn’t have let you two watch Game of Thrones,” the hair sighed.
“The Spic’s Watch,” the hat said. “They serve for life.”
“Yes, The Spic’s Watch: Killing lettuce pickers and day-laborers and ugly little Inditos,” Donald said.
“Donald!” the hair said, shocked. “Where did you even learn that word?”
“Porn,” Donald said.
“Porn?” the hair asked. “That’s your answer for everything.”
John Bolton’s mustache burst into the room. “Mr. President, we have to do something about Venezuela!”
“Why?” Donald said. “I think the new maid is great. The Presidential Shitter’s never been cleaner.”
“Go away,” the hat said. “We’re trying to do a bit on the border wall.”
“The border wall is very necessary,” John Bolton’s mustache.
“She could be better looking, though. Trump Tower has the best looking maids. Real primo tail,” Donald said.
“Mr. President!” Pie said as she plopped into the room. “Stacey Abrams is going to deliver the Democratic response to the State of the Union!” She struggled to breathe after the rush of words and staggered over to learn on the Presidential credenza.
“You really don’t want to touch that,” said the hair. “Venezuela hasn’t had a chance to wipe it off yet.”
“Who the fuck is Stacey Abrams?” Donald wondered aloud.
“Will none of you motherfuckers respect the bit we are doing?” the hat whined. “I had a Spic’s Watch oath joke all ready to go and everything.”
Pie clutched at her chest and John Bolton’s mustache rippled respectfully as they both paused.
“Well?” the hair asked.
“No, fuck it,” the hat replied. “It’s ruined, all ruined. You guys all ruined it. Ruiners.”
*Googles “Indito Porn”*
Amateur. Bing is for porn.
Breaking the 4th wall? You’re the DeadPool of Depravity.
There is no fourth wall, congress wouldn’t appropriate the funds.
+5.6 billion
Huzzah! Double dose of Hat and Hair today, new cartoon tonight!
Ruined it!
Good stuff
Also, is this a call back? I did a Game of Thrones wall joke way back in episode two.
And another one. Nothing yet from #metoo about all the female teachers banging minors?
http://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/former-pickerington-central-teacher-and-coach-admits-sexual-relationship-with-minor
It’s not the same because male privilege and patriarchy.
That teenage boy MADE her do it!
Looking at her pic, you may be assuming too much. I’m thinking it was a teenage girl.
That was my take.
Yeah, she is a bulldagger.
Softball coach?
*clicks*
EEK!
Oh please, like you haven’t done worse.
Wait… what?
Whatever that means. But if that’s the super-predatory kind of predator, seems a bit overkill.
And another
Might
“The Spic’s Watch,” the hat said. “They serve for life.”
Am I a bad person for laughing at that?
For that? No. You’re a bad person because you touch yourself at night.
Yeah! Mexi wants you touching him at night.
Um…yeah…
Whelp, I am doomed.
Oh, crap, I’m going to Hell….
You’d rather go someplace where you won’t know anyone there?
Chipotle?
My wife and I stopped at Chipotle the other day. Still yummy, but it’s become too expensive to justify the price.
Just at night?
You guys lack commitment.
““The Spic’s Watch,” the hat said. “They serve for life.””
Can’t spell HATE without HAT?
Can’t spell slaughter without laughter!
You can if you spill it phonetically.
Or even spell it phonetically
Spelling is for studies majors!
-1 H8
Whoops, poor reading comprehension. I thought you meant hate, not slaughter.
slotter?
Euphemism.
Solid guffaw out loud at work on the alt-text.
Genius-level stuff, as per usual, SF.
Reading totalitarian philosophers.
https://quillette.com/2019/01/30/how-should-we-read-the-totalitarian-philosophers/
…to own the libs?
I have always interpreted Rousseau as being totally for individualism as long as the individual conformed to Rousseau’s ethical standards, and if he did not conform, well….
Tall standards from a guy who let the orphanage raise his six kids.
To death.
I think the real question is whether to read the contemporary postmodernists.
By itself, postmodernism does not necessarily lend itself to politics, but none of its adherents have been loathe to do apply it in that manner, and it always leans one way.
Postmodernism is useful as a tool to tear down objective reality and confuse and demoralize the population; thus lowering their resistance to revolution. Once the general populace has been so thoroughly corrupted that they no longer know right from wrong, the power elite crush opposition and install themselves as rulers. Useful idiots cease being useful and can be liquidated.
Profit!
Basically Marxism 2.0. it is all about power.
HM could undoubtedly give us a better picture, but my impression is that the people who invented/developed post-modernism were mostly Marxists.
Yes, and they did so specifically for it to be used as Q describes above. It was never meant to be a serious philosophical view.
+1 Bezmenov
You seem
terrifyinglyencouragingly familiar with this process.Anyone here read “Explaining Postmodernism” by Stephen Hicks? Well actually, I’m sure someone has read it because this site is where I heard about it.
In any case, it was very informative. It describes exactly what’s going on with this Marxist anti-reality culture that exists today.
Can’t Donald just privately build a wall of luxury condos? I might purchase one just so I can look out the windows and see building security thwarting the caravans of trespassers.
Turning a ridiculous spectacle into a *profitable* ridiculous spectacle
I have wondered, what if instead of steel slats, it was simply 25′ solar panels arranged in the form of a barrier. Would Pelosi go for that?
As long as solar panels are rigged to capacitors that are rigged to the “supporting structure” for the panels, it just might work.
Electrified fence huh?
Did you know urine can carry an electrical charge? At 10 years old I didn’t. But I learned right quick!!
Don’t whiz on the electric fence.
Why I knew not to do that at age 7.
Either your older brother didn’t teach you or he instigated the learning process. They are like that.
A more ancient solar solution modernized
It’s funny how the eco-nuts have no idea about how both wind and solar energy require large amounts of heavy metals, mined in China (usually) which produce colossal amounts of hazardous waste.
Okay, some f them have noticed/
Crap. Some of them…
The other dark side is an unreliable power grid causing real darkness. I doubt the bottom rung useful idiot eco-nut realizes how our current standard of living depends on inexpensive reliable power. I’m sure there are plenty that do want the human infection either extinct or back in caves
I guess the old saw about horses and water is true. I find it fascinating that these people won’t listen to anyone but people in their approved bubble. If a non-lefty says this, they are are an awful person for trying to stop ‘progress’. Though, I’m sure even the people in this article will get excoriated.
That’s why China is making mining deals all over the world. They now control 90% of the global rare earth market.
The Japanese want in on that action.
Mine one good sized asteroid, and China takes it in the shorts.
Feels over facts, brah. These are probably a lot of the same people who think that purchasing paper products leads to a decline in tree populations.
What? Steal Mexico’s sunshine?
Len is pissed. And no one gives a shit.
-1 hit wonder
The chick was cute.
SHAARRRONNNNN!!!
Andrea True is spinning in her grave.
OT:
But cold weather is another story. And don’t ask about Ms. Cake. The best line from the story:
EXTREME WEATHER! NEVER BEFORE SEEN!
The delivery service that was bringing my new wash machine suspended delivery yesterday, weather related, until next Tuesday. I asked the guy on the phone about clean underwear and he said something like “Tough shit. I made a trip to the local laundromat yesterday.
Yeah, you don’t want to hunk up your own machine with that level of soiling.
^gunk
Not until Tuesday? That’s a bit extreme, isn’t it? I’d cancel and buy it somewhere else, just for him being a dick about it.
Home Depot, paid for. Had a 10 day delivery time, now extended another week. My wife was happy, now she can wear nicer clothes and not feel bad.
You can rent a truck from Home Depot for $20 and pick it up yourself.
Wait, wait, wait, I just saw this morning that home delivery is the modern way of getting stuff. I have a pick up truck and in retrospect it certainly would have been faster. I usually do that but with the weather and bothering other people to help me on load it seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
Older doesn’t necessarily mean smarter
Yeah, our mail service is cancelled today. Should get my new Langdon Carry Decocker levers for my PX4 tomorrow.
It’s colder in Toledo – why do they get their mail?
FedEx and UPS suspended delivery up here…I guess. No official announcement, but I was supposed to get a package at home and at work and got neither.
DEFINITELY NOT CLIMATE!
News you can use.
https://www.askmen.com/sex/sex_tips/how-to-find-a-third-partner-for-a-threesome.html
I got hit on by a girl for I’m not sure what with her husband last month. I’m not sure if he was just into watching or more. I didn’t ask. She just guaranteed a good time. It was weird. There is another couple that go to the same bar and I heard he likes to watch his wife with other dudes. Three way relationships is how a lot if ID episodes start out.
ID episodes
Um.. what?
ID channel. The murder channel. Avoid 3 way relationships, strip clubs, hitch hiking, first floor apartments, etc.
Avoid
3 way relationships, strip clubs, hitch hiking, first floor apartments, etcpeople.Wait, so I have to avoid girls who like getting spanked?
I’l take the chance on getting murdered.
This guy gets it.
*deadbolts door*
Why first floor apartments?
Because they have people in them?
Easy access and egress for someone intent on doing harm.
Can confirm. Lived on first floor exterior apartment next to the paring lot. Kinda scary.
That’s what burglar bars are for, silly.
You don’t want to deal with Luka upstairs.
I think the Body Cam show is on ID. Usually an antidote to the usual cop
malfeasancecriminality stories that get highlighted around here.I’m not into dudes and I only have one penis (making a second woman extraneous). What’s the point?
You can watch them pleasure each other while you recuperate
Exactly. The chicks can take care of themselves, leaving you free to concentrate on the important thing – you.
I’d comment on the post but I don’t speak jive.
WHAT?!? WHERE WAS PIE IN ALL OF THIS?!?!
You can’t just drop her in like “oh yeah, she was there too.”
I mean, he didn’t drop her in there. She clearly plopped in there.
D’oh!
I was distracted by the Venezuela joke immediately afterwards.
Man, if these two talented young guys can’t get along what hope for the rest of us is there?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6649553/Ace-Frehley-accuses-former-Kiss-bandmate-Gene-Simmons-GROPING-guitarists-wife.html
He kept his tongue sheathed at least.
That’s a dog bites man story.
Ace was jealous?
“Why won’t Gene grope me?”
Why won’t they kiss in make up?
*narrows gaze*
Alright, I tracked down that Virginia abortion bill, and this is what it says about when the right to abort runs out:
IOW, nothing. I didn’t poke around to see if there is definition of pregnancy. I think it comes down to when you say “pregnancy” ends and “delivery” begins, unless you think pregnancy includes delivery, in which case you have to say when delivery ends.
On the plus side, IMO, the bill got defeated in committee when the video of the bill sponsor describing the bill went public. Odd that the legislators only killed it after their constituents saw the video, and not when they saw the testimony themselves.
One more thought: Pregnancy might include delivery, because the OB does both the prenatal care and the delivery, and the pediatrician takes over once the baby is born. The hand-off to the pediatrician happens, BTW, when the baby leaves the delivery room. Not sure if that gives any guidance on where to draw the line, but that’s the way its operationalized.
I’m not a big antiabortion guy but that does strike me as a tad lenient.
Abortion is probably the only issue in American politics where I see a genuine conflict of rights. Most issues in American politics boil down to Peter getting Paul’s money from Daddy G because A, B, and C. Abortion has some of that of course, but at it’s heart, it’s a conflict in rights.
I believe killing people without them being a threat to you is wrong. I also believe telling people what they can and can’t do with their own bodies is wrong. It’s one of the few cases where I see a genuine conflict of rights. I think rights are pretty clear cut across the whole range of other issues.
Like, I could tell you what Viking’s Libertopia looks like across the board from a legal standpoint. Except on abortion. Because it’s a genuinely tricky issue to me.
Depends on whether you believe the fetus is its own body.
I have no problem with first trimester abortions for any reason but they’re going off the rails and into the ditch here. It’s advocacy for infantacide.
My internal logic calls BS on any meaningfulness of the 1st/2nd trimester dividing-line but… it’s not an issue I care strongly about. Perhaps if I were in the baby-making business myself I would.
Shameless self promotion:
https://glibertarians.com/2017/10/exploration-of-philosophical-vagueness-aka-principles-are-hard-lets-go-shopping/
From a practical standpoint this is where I am willing to compromise. You can have your post-sex birth control as long as it’s 1st trimester, but if it goes beyond for any reason except when the mother’s life is in imminent danger (or something along those lines, I’m no expert in the terminology) the birth must be carried to term. That includes rape, incest, or whatever. If the mother decided to wait to explain she was raped until that point, tough shit. It wasn’t your choice to be raped, but it was your choice to ignore the situation. I’m honestly torn about rape/incest in the case of girls under the age of 16. There is no easy answer there.
Also: “When in irresolvable doubt as to whether or not something is a human, it’s probably best not to kill it.”
-DFW
So cool, all that mid to late 2nd trimester testing can just be ditched. Who cares if the fetus failed to develop a brain or has Tay Sachs that slut gets to carry it to term and then watch it die writhing in agony like she deserves
@Q: That’s why even in the case of girls younger than 16 I’m inclined to let it go term if it’s after 1st trimester. Will they be fucked up for having a baby after they were raped? Absolutely. But that is probably small potatoes after being raped.
I can see reasonable arguments for second trimester abortions for medical reasons, or if the fetus has a genetic condition that will result in severe health impairment. By the third trimester, barring unusual medical risk to the mother, I don’t see a morally acceptable excuse. And by “medical risk” I don’t mean mental or emotional strain.
@Rasilio: Ok, you make the rules then. Fuck it.
“has Tay Sachs”
Yeah I’ve got pretty mixed feelings about the whole issue of abortion, but one thing I’m not at all mixed up on is the morality of the premise that “It’s better for a child to be dead than be sick, and killing them would be a mercy.” Since it’s 2019, not 1919, I know where the end of that particular line of reasoning ends.
So as we discussed here yesterday, the health of the mother argument is largely irrelevant in the 3rd trimester. It might have little relevance in the first couple of weeks of the 3rd trimester but by 30 weeks of gestation at the latest there is no health condition I have ever heard of which would be safer to treat by performing an abortion than it would just inducing labor and delivering the baby prematurely and you could maybe do that as early as the 28th week.
But sorry Viking Tay Sachs is not just “being sick”, it is a genetic defect that causes neurological degeneration and a slow painful lingering death and there is no cure or even hope of a cure and that is just 1 that picked for an example there are literally dozens of birth defects and genetic abnormalities which will either cause the baby to die shortly after birth with absolutely no hope of survival or suffer a slow lingering death with no hope of a life. The key is the tests for these are generally done at around 24 weeks of gestation, right at the end of the 2nd trimester and some don’t get detected until early in the 3rd trimester so the idea of outlawing abortion months prior to that is just asinine.
When it comes to stuff like Down’s or other chromosomal disorders, I am going to take what I suspect will be an unpopular decision and say that I think that is a legitimate reason for having an abortion up to the third trimester. I myself don’t know what I’d do in that situation, but I know that as much as I’m unsure of the morality of having that abortion I’m equally unsure of my moral authority to tell someone they can’t do it.
@Rasilio: I am willing to allow for these sorts of things since I have no idea what I’m taking about medically. But my original point was a compromise. These pro-abortion fucks aren’t willing to compromise. i mean, look at the shit they are proposing just in this post. Sorry if I came off harsh, but Jesus, we aren’t talking about rational debate here. I’m not one to jump right to the ‘people who disagree are evil’ shit, but this isn’t even disagreement. They are seriously talking about state-sanctioned murder. How do you debate that?
To me, any abortion after viability (call it 22 weeks) is killing a person. If Downs isn’t diagnosed until after 22 weeks, well, you don’t get to smother your Downs baby in the crib, so you don’t get to abort it, either. Put the kid up for adoption if you don’t want to raise it. I don’t feel the need for any moral authority to ban abortions of viable Downs fetuses than I do to ban the murder of Downs babies.
I struggle with babies that are known to be terminal while still in utero (which I think would include Tay-Sachs). If they are viable, then an abortion looks an awful lot like euthanasia to me. We don’t allow euthanasia of terminal adults, much less terminal adults who can’t make their own medical decisions. If we want to allow abortions of terminal fetuses above the viability line, I would want to make sure I was OK with euthanizing an adult in a coma on the same grounds.
s’ok. I personally do not fit in well to either camp and think that there is a perfectly workable compromise that can be reached that looks something like…
Unrestricted abortion on demand through ~18 weeks
Abortion is permitted for reasons of rape or incest to 22 weeks
Abortion is permitted to save the life of the mother through 32 weeks
Abortion is permitted at any point in the pregnancy if it is discovered that the fetus is non viable or possesses a severe birth defect.
Abortions for reasons of the mothers health do include her mental health but ONLY so she can resume taking necessary psychoactive drugs (ex. a schizophrenic whose medications would be harmful to the baby but is suffering a severe psychotic break without the meds) , otherwise only her physical health is to be considered
All abortions performed after the 24 week of pregnancy will result in the doctors actions being reviewed by a panel of medical experts and if they find that the doctors actions were not called for then the board to suspend or even revoke the doctors license and refer the case to the DA for criminal charges for killing the fetus.
Realistically the only reason to oppose this scheme is if you are an ideologue who either wants to see all abortions made illegal or are a eugenicist who wants abortion to be almost mandatory
It isnt that tricky Viking. Of the two people whose rights are conflicting only one of them got into that position by choice. If you like to kick up your heels you take responsibility for everything that happens after that. You dont get to change your mind later.
Rape is an exception, but you dont wait 3+ months to make that decision. This late term abortion stuff, sans life threatening conditions, is bullshit. It is straight up murder.
So Gosnell was something of a visionary.
Comfortably Smug is here, thank God, to turn something despicable into merely surreal.
I’ve mentioned before having a friend in “women’s health” (ie abortions). She works as a counselor. She’s gotten oddly sedate since the Gosnell stuff. She was vehement that Gosnell should be put to death for murder. She was furious about the damage he did to the movement. Now it seems like Gosnell Did Nothing Wrong, at least to go by this worrisome push. I wonder whether she and others will toe the line on this.
“I wonder whether she and others will toe the line on this.”
Of course she will. The clergy have declared this to be part of the canon and therefore it is Truth. To question it would be to question the Word and make you an apostate.
As stated in the Morning Lynx, when he learns algebra pregnancy is over.
I just don’t know who even wants this legislation. I’ve known and spoken to many pro-abortion people, and I’ve never heard anyone say that they would support legalized abortion in the third trimester and up to and including during birth. I really don’t get the cognitive dissonance that would be needed to believe that 1 day before birth, killing the child is ok, but 1 day after birth, and it’s murder. It’s illogical, and frankly evil.
As a libertarian, it also frustrates me that basically no one, at least in the mainstream political arena and the media, seems to give a shit about the rights of the baby. To me it’s as simple as that, it all falls under the NAP.
Push the Overton Window as hard as possible and often as possible to move the rachet.
Nikki would be so disappointed in you! Babies don’t have rights, silly.
They have the right to body armor.
Trying to summon John now?
“As a libertarian, it also frustrates me that basically no one, at least in the mainstream political arena and the media, seems to give a shit about the rights of the baby.”
It is a eugenics program to cull undesirables, simple as that. The people leading the charge want the world’s population to drop by 2/3 so basically they want to kill as many people as possible. We aren’t talking about moral people here or people that even acknowledge the existence of rights.
Yet we have to let them talk down to us that building a wall is immoral.
Hmmm. There was a lot of trumpeting of Iceland’s ‘success’ in eradicating Downs Syndrome.
Yeah the casual embrace of outright eugenics by the Left is…..interesting, to say the least. Lebensunwertes Leben rolls off the tongue nicely though for them.
I think you are right, and it’s just disgusting.
As you say, they don’t even acknowledge the existence of rights. And yet they try to claim that murdering an unborn child somehow falls under a “woman’s right to choose”.
Yep. Same reason they want to redefine “rape”. Eventually, you’ll get to the point where a state doctor aborts your baby because somebody else decides you were raped.
Ralph Northam: “moderate Democrat”….baaahahahahahaha.
I hope all the bobo yuppie shitheads in the West End suburbs are enjoying their beloved “centrist”.
Pikers. In NY now, any “licensed health-care professional” can do it at any time if the mother’s “mental health” is in danger.
I got my professional abortionist license online. They even send you a free coat hangar with your diploma.
I hope you also get window stickers to pass out.
I’m guessing this is simply legalese, but I wonder if it’s possible to attempt and fail. As in, they root around in there and the baby comes out alive regardless. What then?
Sharp sticks.
Prolly a return a return to “dead baby” jokes.
I wonder if it’s possible to attempt and fail
Yes, it is, especially in (very) late term abortions. Its very rare, but it happens. Basically, in a third-trimester abortion you have to get the remains out as part of the procedure. So, if you don’t quite succeed in terminating, congratulations, you have just delivered a (very damaged) baby.
I figured it was. My wife had a miscarriage before we had our first. I remember her going through the D&C, essentially the same procedure as an abortion at that stage from what I recall (13 years ago). She had a harder time going through that than the actual miscarriage, though that was no picnic. Aside from the physical pain, I think it really hit home that there was a little person in there that they had to chop up and suck out. I may be messing up the details, but I’ve tried not to think about it too much since.
Been there. I am sorry you had to experience that and sorrier that your wife did.
Thanks.
Ugh. In that case I can see a variation of the shoot, shovel, and shut up solution.
And made out of ice!”
No problem.
I believe that’s called murder, Governor.
https://freebeacon.com/issues/northman-on-40-week-abortion-bill-infant-would-be-delivered-and-then-a-discussion-would-ensue-between-the-physicians-and-the-mother/
Fine. I’m now firmly in the anti camp. This is obscene.
Yeah I’d love to hear the argument for how that’s not straight up murder. Even if you believe in abortion up until birth…..the whole argument for abortion is that it’s not right to force the women to give birth to an unwanted child. Once she’s given birth, the baby can be adopted if she doesn’t want it.
Totally not a death cult.
Is there a limit on how long that discussion can take? I am wondering because if not then the evil fucks that wrote, sponsored, voted for and signed into law this can be legally aborted. I wonder if it will be law if that is pointed out to them.
It’s not murder – it’s a 160th trimester abortion!
“Good night, son. You were a good boy today. Sleep well. I’ll most likely abort you in the morning.”
Inconceivable!
This fucking guy is a pediatric surgeon who made much hay of his medical practice in the campaign. Chew on that for a while.
More proof that power can corrupt the best people out there. Or maybe he’s always been an asshole.
It is impossible to separate progressivism from eugenics. It was true in the past and it’s true today
You know who else you could trot out in support of this argument?
Hitler? I did below. I suppose that’s a cheap shot
Eddie?
Corky from Life Goes On?
Read the Bell opinion (I recall an article on the topic here a while back) and recall that the Nazis at Nuremberg used that Supreme Court opinion in their defense. Look at the forced sterilization that the UN and Western countries funded in India and other third world countries. And then consider the abortion rate among different racial groups in the US and consider where Planned Parenthood puts the majority of its clinics.
And these are the people talking down to us about how a wall is immoral. That’s right, a baby murderer is going to tell us about morality. Or we could just kick their fucking teeth down their throat. We could do that.
So “my body, my choice” was a canard all this time.
They want to make 100% sure it doesn’t have a vagina before they kill it.
So they would resuscitate a still born in order to humanly kill it? This is beyond the fucking pale isn’t it? I’m pretty cynical and don’t get bothered easily, but when I read his words, -the governor of a US state- I literally got the chills. These are some sick, evil people.
Here’s the deal. Once you have a live baby, the parents make all the medical decisions. Its not that unusual for the parents to decide to put a baby that is born with a terminal condition (usually severe brain defects) to put the baby into “palliative care”, meaning the baby will be allowed to die a “natural death” with only “comfort care” given (not scare quotes, those are the terms used). It doesn’t really matter how the baby got the terminal condition (genetic defect, doctor chopping at it with a scalpel, same-same), once its born, the parents call the shots.
Is “Life Unworthy of Life” a medically recognized condition?
What if the condition is not terminal? Honest question. A healthy child is born, but everyone knows that newborns can easily die without simple care. Can the parents instruct the doctor to not provide blankets or formula for the child?
Life is a terminal condition. Just stop feeding your 2 year old. Things will sort themselves out.
There are arguments for “post-birth abortions” (curious euphemism). Which suggest that our morality has devolved back to the era of the Spartans. Which is a disturbing turn of events. I think all individualists should be worried when the state begins decreeing that not all lives are of equal value, but I suppose that’s just silly
The Spartans had a solution in that case.
And I’m late on that one.
What if the condition is not terminal?
Then we would provide care without the parent’s consent, which we can do in life-threatening emergencies.
There’s definitely a gray area around what’s terminal or not. It comes up pretty rarely, though. I would say out of our 5000 deliveries (with a disproportionate number of high-risk deliveries), this probably happens in my hospital 2-3 times a year? Something like that. And there’s usually very little medical controversy about whether the child is terminal or care would be futile; the hard part is getting the parents to accept our opinion. If they don’t and want full care, we provide it.
Can the parents instruct the doctor to not provide blankets or formula for the child?
Refusing care, or withholding things like food, shelter, clothing, is criminal child abuse, so we would also call CPS (its mandatory for us). Easier to just put the child up for adoption, in which case we keep the kid until the adoption agency/foster parents show up.
“These decisions shouldn’t be taken lightly.”
I think your mother needs to have a discussion with your personal physician about whether to abort you Governor.
Out: woke eight year olds. In: woke five year olds.
Ha-ha!
Oh, that is good.
Followed by
“I eld my dog’s paws, and he slowly farted. I knew what he really meant.”
held, dammit.
Vortex is go! I don’t like what I’m seeing on the other side of this snowstorm.
I feel for y’all. This is a lean time of year for bees so I feed them in the winter. They were hitting the feeders today for a couple of hours. Bees retreat to the hive at 42F.
Compared to what the rest of the country is experiencing we have pretty balmy weather here.