I started making mead in 2003. Most people start with the Compleat Meadmaker by Ken Schramm. I did too. I have my signed copy, but I haven’t actually read it since about 2004. I started making wine from fresh grapes in 2008, and it influenced how I made mead. I started making beer in 2013, and it too influenced how I made mead. This article condenses my nearly 16 years of experience in making mead. It’s a long article, but I didn’t want to split up the content. So here it is.
Let’s start with a few definitions: Session Mead (hydromel); Standard Mead; and Sack Mead. Per the 2015 Mead Style Guidelines from the Beer Judge Certification Program (BJCP), the “strength” of mead is classified as Hydromel, Standard, or Sack.
Strength. A mead may be categorized as hydromel, standard, or sack strength. Strength refers to the alcohol content of the mead (and also, therefore, the amount of honey and fermentables used to make the mead).
Personally, I hate the term “hydromel” which basically means watery mead. So, I prefer to use the term “Session Mead” for anything that I make in the 6% to 10% ABV range. The alcohol level of Standard Mead would be in the range of 12% to 16% ABV which is typical of table wine. And Sack Mead would be 18% ABV and beyond. There is an assumption that the higher the alcohol level, the more honey aroma and flavor will be present due to the increase in fermentable sugar. Yet a bone-dry mead at 16% ABV and dessert sweet mead at 8% ABV can have about the same amount of honey in the recipe. It all depends on the brewing process – what yeast is used; whether all the fermentable sugars are consumed in fermentation; whether or not the product is back-sweetened after fermentation; what the product is back-sweetened with (honey or cane sugar). But in general, a session mead is going to start with a lower original gravity (less fermentable sugar) than a standard mead which has a lower original gravity that a sack mead.
Session Mead and Ale Yeast
I use ale yeast when I am making a session mead. Ale yeast produces a different flavor profile than wine yeast. With the right ale yeast, the yeast can accentuate the honey character in the product to overcome the lower levels of honey in the recipe. I am particularly fond of Wyeast 1318 (London III). My second favorite is 1728 (Scottish Ale). I have had good results in yeast trials with 1335 (British Ale III); 1968 (London ESB); 1214 (Belgian Abbey Style); 1762 (Belgian Abbey Style II); and 3787 (Trappist Style High Gravity). The three Belgian style yeasts – 1214, 1762, and 3787 – are very good for making a stronger mead at 10% to 12% (nearly a standard mead) but with different flavors than you would get with a wine yeast.
A key feature of ale yeast is “attenuation” which means the yeast does not consume all of the available sugar during fermentation. Most ale yeasts will consume between 65% and 80% of the available sugar during fermentation, and different ale yeasts attenuate at different levels. This allows a brewer to produce dryer or sweeter products by changing the yeast strain during fermentation. For any given yeast, there will be variations in the attenuation depending upon the type of sugar available – simple sugars vs complex sugars as well as the fermentation temperature and other factors.
My favorite yeast, 1318, generally attenuates at around 75% in beer (malt sugars). It attenuates at dramatically different levels in other products. In cider, it attenuates at around 90% because apple juice is primarily simple sugars. In mead, the results are all over the place depending upon the type of honey used and the type of fruit used. This makes it nearly impossible to predict in advance whether the product will finish sweet or dry. It also makes bottle conditioning extremely unpredictable (can you say “gusher”?). While I love the flavor produced by the yeast, I have given up on bottle-conditioning anything I make with it. So, I almost always back-sweeten to taste; stabilize with potassium sorbate; then keg and force carbonate.
Small-Scale Kegging
A big challenge for beginners is how to keg and force carbonate small batches if you are not already set up to keg beer. The answer is that there is a growing marketplace for mini-keg and/or stainless-steel growlers which have lids with connectors for micro-regulators and picnic taps. There are many products available on the market (go peruse Amazon) and the variety of products can be confusing.
A key issue is whether or not you want compatibility between small-scale kegging equipment and the standard kegging equipment used by most home brewers. In my case, I was already well-equipped with standard ball-lock equipment, so I focused on finding mini-kegs, micro-regulators and taps using ball-lock connectors. For me, I generally force carbonate in standard sized equipment. Yet, there are times when I want to dispense to a small system so that I take products to a party or class and then dispense under typical CO2 pressures. But I also want to be able to force carbonate an experimental batch without tying up my full-sized equipment. So, I looked for small-scale equipment with ball-lock connections.
Here is a small sample of equipment you can find in the marketplace (these examples are all ball-lock connections):
Small Cornelius kegs:
• 1 ¾ gallon kegs (shorter versions of a standard 5-gallon keg) $85
• Mini-regulator (get one that goes up to 25+ PSI to support force carbonation) $80
• One-time use (non-refillable) 74gr CO2 cartridge $ 5
• Keg Faucet (complete with ball-lock connector) $35
Mini-kegs (growlers):
• 5L stainless-steel growler/mini-keg (also available in 2L, 4L, and 10L sizes) $55
• Ball-Lock lid for growler/mini-keg $35
• Micro-regulator (get one that goes up to 25+ PSI to support force carbonation) $45
• One-time use (non-refillable) 16gr CO2 cartridge (go buy in bulk on Amazon) $ 2
• Picnic tap faucet and line $11
Note: I have purchased from Williams Brewing in the past and have been happy with the quality and their prices. I have at least one of everything in the list above. I have also purchased from other suppliers and have been just as happy. All the ball-lock parts are standard and will work with any ball-lock keg or mini-keg. I have no idea if the size and threading of ball-lock lids for growler/mini-kegs is standardized so that products from different manufacturers will be compatible. As of this time, I have only purchased from the single manufacturer linked above.
Session Mead Recipes:
Finally, we get to the point. What do I put in the primary to make a nice fruit mead? Here is a generic recipe for session mead that will produce one gallon of finished product:
• 2 lbs of honey
• 3 lbs of frozen fruit
• 1 gallon of water
• 1 package of ale yeast
This will produce about 8% alcohol by volume (ABV) assuming the product finishes nearly dry. You can bottle condition the product assuming you want semi-dry to dry product. Otherwise, you can back-sweeten to taste, then stabilize, keg, and force carbonate. For quick and simple fruit meads, I generally back-sweeten with cane sugar. If you back-sweeten with honey, it will get cloudy all over again and may not clear back up (depending on the honey you are using).
One thing to note is that acid and tannin levels will vary dramatically by the type of fruit you use. I know some people that like dry mead, but they are in the minority, so most meads are packaged semi-sweet to sweet. Therefore, a decent level of acid (similar to wine) is pretty much a requirement to balance the sweetness of most meads. Tannins are optional in mead, but I think they are highly desirable. Thus, the mead maker needs to understand how much acid and tannin are in the fruits used to make mead to keep everything in balance. Fortunately, there are websites out there that provide detailed acid and tannin level information on a wide variety of fruits used to make wine and mead.
The following are two example meads that I am making for a class this spring. All the ingredients, except for the yeast, were purchased at Walmart or Target.
Blueberry Melomel
• 2 lbs of Nature Nate’s Raw Unfiltered Honey (presumably clover)
• 3 lbs of Wild Blueberries
• 2 Meyer Lemons, zested and juiced (not shown)
• 1 gallon of drinking water
• 1 pkg of Wyeast 1318 London III ale yeast
Blueberries are very low in acid. So, the zest and the juice of two large Meyer lemons is added to boost the acidity and provide a wonderful secondary aroma to the blueberry mead. Note that Meyer lemons have far less acid that normal lemons. Use only one large lemon if using regular lemons.
All these ingredients will go into the primary. Fermentation is done on the whole fruit to provide the maximum extraction of color, aroma, and flavor from the fruit.
This recipe produced a sugar concentration of 15.2° Brix (refractometer reading) which is equivalent to 1.062 S.G. and 8.3% potential alcohol.
Raspberry Melomel
• 2 lbs of Nature Nate’s Raw Unfiltered Honey (presumably clover)
• 3 lbs of Raspberries
• 1 gallon of drinking water
• 1 pkg of Wyest 1318 London III ale yeast
Raspberries are fairly high in acid. No adjustment is needed to make a well-balanced product. As before, all ingredients go into the primary. Note that raspberries mostly disintegrate in the primary. The product will probably need to be poured through a strainer at some point to remove all the bits and pieces of raspberry pulp from the product. This can be done as late as the final racking into a bottling bucket just before packaging.
This recipe produced a sugar concentration of 14.8° Brix (refractometer reading) which is equivalent to 1.060 S.G. and 8.1% potential alcohol.
Standard Mead and Wine Yeast
Most mead makers try to make standard strength mead or sack strength mead and will use wine yeast to achieve anywhere from 12% ABV to 18% ABV or more. Some general considerations:
• The strain of wine yeast used to make mead can have a dramatic impact on how long it takes the mead to mature (mellow out enough to be pleasant to drink).
• The higher the alcohol level, the longer the mead takes to mature.
• The higher the sweetness level, the easier it is to cover up the fact that the mead is still too young to drink.
So, a sweet mead at 12% ABV will be pleasant to drink much sooner than a bone-dry mead at 16% ABV.
Other important considerations:
• Wine yeast can only survive until the alcohol concentration hits a certain level – its alcohol tolerance. Note that ale yeast also has an alcohol tolerance but it rarely comes into play in beer or session mead.
• The alcohol tolerance of yeast varies by the strain of yeast – it typically ranges from 14% ABV to 18% ABV.
• Wine yeast does not attenuate; it will consume all the available sugar until it hits its alcohol tolerance and then it will stop fermenting.
One method to make sweet mead is to exceed the alcohol tolerance of the yeast. After the yeast hits is alcohol tolerance, any remaining sugar will not be fermented. So, you can start with a lot of honey or you can make honey additions during fermentation. Either way, this will result in the yeast hitting its tolerance and leaving residual sweetness in the product. This process is easy to abuse in my opinion. I know lots of people that will use champagne yeast to make syrupy-sweet mead at 18% ABV using this process. I generally loathe these meads.
Another method is to start with just enough fermentable sugar to hit a desired alcohol level (somewhere lower that the alcohol tolerance of the yeast). The yeast will consume all the available sugar then fermentation will stall out leaving a dry product (basically how dry red wine is made). If sugar is added after this point, the yeast will start to ferment the added sugar. To prevent this, potassium sorbate is added first. The sorbate will prevent the yeast from fermenting any added sugar. Thus, one can make a sweet mead at a target alcohol level below the alcohol tolerance of the yeast. This is generally what I do.
There are a lot of options out there for wine yeasts. I have only used the products from Lalvin. I have done yeast trails with five strains of yeast (shown below) that are commonly found in home brew shops:
I’ve taken the results of my yeast trials to tastings when the products were about 4 months old, 9 months old, and 15 months old. In the earliest tasting (when the products were about 4 months old), 71B was the clear winner. It matures far sooner than any other yeast. RC-212 came in second place. D-47 was blah. K1V-1116 and EC-1118 (champagne yeast) were pretty terrible at that point. In the second tasting, (when the products were about 9 months old), RC-212 was considered the best having the richest, most complex flavor. But 71B was still a strong contender. D-47 and K1V-1116 were considered mediocre, and EC-1118 still was harsh and unpleasant. In the final tasting (when the products were about 15 months old), RC-212 was still in 1st place, and 71B was still a strong 2nd. K1V-1116 was finally maturing and pleasant to drink. D-47 was still bland and boring. EC-1118 still was harsh and unpleasant.
Let me be clear. Champagne yeast is for making dry sparkling white wine, and it sucks in almost every other application (I don’t care what the chart up above says). Wine kits universally include EC-1118 because it is almost impossible to have fermentation failures using this yeast (it is aggressive, ferments fast, and will overcome most spoilage organisms unless you really, really fuck up sanitation). However, that does not make it a good yeast that produces good mead or wine. {Should you ever buy a wine kit, pick up a packet of 71B for a white wine or RC-212 for a red wine and throw away the EC-1118}
In summary, if you are a beginner (I know you are not going to wait a year to drink your first batch) use Lalvin 71B. When you get to the point you have the patience to wait a year to drink your meads, both 71B and RC-212 are very good options. K1V-1116 produces nice characteristics in dark, bold fruits (think tart cherries, black currants, etc). D-47 will always be bland, so don’t bother. Don’t ever user EC-1118. {My opinions; your mileage may vary.}
Bottling Standard Mead
Bottle conditioning wine or mead that was made with wine yeast is a complex process (see méthode champenoise) that is an entire article by itself. This is not for beginners, so we will assume that everyone is packaging still (uncarbonated) products. There are three basic options at this point:
• Wine bottles sealed with a cork
• Beer bottles sealed with a cap
• Beer bottles sealed with a swing top (grolsch bottles)
Whether they are trying to cork or cap a bottle, most beginners start with the cheapest piece of equipment they can get their hands on. This results in poorly sealed bottles that tend to leak and also tend to produce grumpy brewers. I, on the other hand, have a habit of going big. My first corker was the little red “Portuguese” floor corker. I put 1500 or so corks through it. I eventually sold it and then went up scale to the blue “Italian” floor corker. I have put a couple thousand corks through it, and it is working great. I highly recommend starting with a floor corker if you have any intention of using standard wine bottles and corking them. My first capper was a light-weight bench capper that worked reasonably well, but one of the plastic parts broke after several hundred caps. There are no replacement parts, so I bought a second. Later, I bought two heavy-duty bench cappers on sale and gave away the one with the plastic parts. I bought two cappers so that I can bottle 12 oz and 22 oz (or 750 ml) bottles without resetting the equipment in the middle of a batch.
For beginners, I would recommend the grolsch bottles. No equipment required to seal the bottle, and the product isn’t going to sit around long enough to benefit from bottle-aging in a standard wine bottle with a cork closure.
Standard Mead Recipes
One of the first considerations for the mead maker is to decide how to balance the honey and fruit characteristics in the final product. The honey can provide the primary aroma and flavor with the fruit in a supporting role. Or the fruit can provide the primary aroma and flavor with the honey in a supporting role. Or the honey and fruit can be in roughly equal balance. All three choices are considered legitimate, and I have made all three types of products. Some basic considerations:
• Honey can be quite expensive. So, using a lot of high-sugar fruits or fruit-juices can allow less honey to be used thus saving a few bucks. Note that this skews the flavor profile towards the fruit in the finished product.
• Fresh fruit is generally far to expensive to use in brewing unless you have direct access to the producer of the fruit and can buy it cheap. Store-bought fresh fruit is picked partially ripe and allowed to ripen on the way to the store with negative impacts on aroma, flavor, and sugar levels.
• Frozen fruit is generally much less expensive than fresh fruit. And it is picked ripe and then flash frozen; so, it is actually better fruit for brewing. Freezing fruit also helps release the juice in the fruit. So, even if you acquire fresh fruit, it is still a good idea to freeze it.
• Processed juices are generally much less expensive that frozen fruit. It is quick and easy way to add a lot of fruit flavor to mead. However, some of the nuance in the aroma and flavor is lost in the processing of the fruit into juice (see the wine article on how wine kits are made).
• A nicely balanced product can be made at a reasonable price by using some combination of honey, frozen fruit, and fruit juice.
Thus, we have three generic recipes that produce a gallon of finished product:
Honey forward mead
• 2 ¾ lbs (~1 qt) of honey
• 2 to 3 lbs of frozen fruit
• 1 gallon of water
• 1 package of wine yeast
This recipe will finish dry with any wine yeast and will produce 11% to 13% alcohol by volume (ABV) depending upon the fruit.
Fruit forward mead
• 2 lbs of honey
• 2 to 3 lbs of frozen fruit
• ½ gallon of fruit juice
• ½ gallon of water
• 1 package of wine yeast
This recipe will finish dry with any wine yeast and will produce 12% to 14% alcohol by volume (ABV) depending upon the fruit and fruit juice.
Balanced mead
• 2 ¾ lbs of honey
• 2 to 3 lbs of frozen fruit
• ½ gallon of fruit juice
• ½ gallon of water
• 1 package of wine yeast
This recipe will finish dry with most wine yeasts and will produce 13% to 16% alcohol by volume (ABV) depending upon the fruit and fruit juice.
Any of these recipes can be back-sweetened with sugar or honey and stabilized with potassium sorbate prior to bottling.
The following are two more example meads that I am making for a class this spring. Again, all the ingredients, except for the yeast, were purchased at Walmart or Target.
Triple Berry Melomel
• 2 lbs of Nature Nate’s Raw Unfiltered Honey (presumably clover)
• 3 lbs of mixed Raspberries, Blackberries, and Blueberries
• 2 quarts of White Grape Juice (Niagra)
• 2 quarts of drinking water
• 1 pkg of Lalvin 71B wine yeast
Raspberries, blackberries, and white grape juice all have plenty of acid in them. The acid level in this product will be noticeably higher than in either of the two session meads above. This product will need to be back-sweetened to at least semi-sweet to be in balance. As always, all these ingredients will go into the primary.
This recipe produced a sugar concentration of 20.4° Brix (refractometer reading) which is equivalent to 1.085 S.G. and 11.8% potential alcohol.
Dark Sweet Cherry Melomel
• 2 lbs of Nature Nate’s Raw Unfiltered Honey (presumably clover)
• 3 lbs of Dark Sweet Cherries
• 2 quarts of White Grape Juice (Niagra)
• 2 quarts of drinking water
• 1 pkg of Lalvin 71B wine yeast
Dark sweet cherries have some acid, but not a lot. The white grape juice in the recipe provides the acid to give the finished product the proper structure. The acid level in this product will be similar to the two session meads above. This product can to be back-sweetened from semi-dry to semi-sweet and be in balance. As always, all these ingredients will go into the primary.
This recipe produced a sugar concentration of 22.6° Brix (refractometer reading) which is equivalent to 1.095 S.G. and 13.3% potential alcohol. Note that cherries have a lot more sugar than most berries.
Making the Example Recipes
All these example recipes state they will make 1 gallon of finished product. A lot more than 1 gallon of volume is going into the primary, so the primary needs to have plenty of room for honey, water, juice, and whole fruit plus headspace for the foam that is produced during fermentation.
I am using a 2 ½ gallon plastic bucket with a screw top as a primary fermenter for these small, experimental batches.
A ½ inch hole is drilled in the lid for the bucket. A standard grommet (found on the lids of most commercial wine pails) is inserted into the hole. An airlock is inserted into the grommet to allow CO2 to escape during fermentation.
After 3 weeks in the primary, I rack the product into a 4-liter wine jug from the plastic primary.
I use a slotted spoon to remove the floating fruit from the product in the primary. I put the fruit into a standard kitchen strainer and press out as much juice as I can. Note that all my brewing equipment is dedicated to brewing. I never reuse my kitchen equipment in the brewing room.
Depending upon how much juice is released from the fruit and how deep the sediment is on the bottom of the primary, there can be more than 4 liters of clear product in the primary.
So, I start by racking part of the product into a pitcher then rack the remaining product into the jug. I top off the jug from the pitcher. Sometimes you have leftovers.
After another three weeks in the 4-liter jug, the product is racked into a 1-gallon jug.
There typically is enough clear liquid above the sediment in the 4-liter jug to fill the 1-gallon jug (sometimes not quite enough).
The product will be left in the 1-gallon jug for another 3 weeks. Then it will be racked into a bucket and it will be back-sweetened to taste; sorbate will be added; and then it will be packaged (kegged or bottled).
So, nine weeks from pitching yeast to packaging the product.
All these products will be used as examples in a class less than three months after pitching the yeast. They will all be mature enough to enjoy, but a few more months of aging will be beneficial.
There you have it. What are you waiting for? Go make some fabulous fruit mead.
My first batch of homebrew was in 2003.
The package labelled “Red Raspberries” made me wonder – what other kinds of Raspberries are there?
wikipedia says gold/yellow, purple and black.
I have no idea where my Oxford comma went.
Cambridge.
Jeez, not like the dress.
Golden raspberries and black raspberries.
Thank you both. It was an idle thought set my head by the phrasing of the label.
I have wild black raspberries across most of one property line.
I love Black Raspberry ice cream and preserves. Growing up we had black and red raspberry bushes across the street at our school.
Wait, wait, wait. Are blackberries and black raspberries the same thing?
No. They look similar when forming (green) but the ripe berries are clearly distinguishable.
For some reason, it seems that the biggest form of berries tends to be black, in my experience.
I wonder if mulberries would be usable for this process? We had a mulberry tree in the backyard when I was a kid. Lots of berries and seemed to produce longer than blackberries (although not as big a fruit).
They would be.
/source: have a mulberry tree in my yard.
I wonder if mulberries would be usable for this process?
Mulberries aren’t usable for any process, tasting horrible as they do.
You must have a defective mulberry tree.
Mulberry mead is quite good.
I picked fruit from a tree in my yard and made a gallon batch. It makes a good product.
It is also a pain in the ass, so I cut the tree down.
Last fall, I bought 100% mulberry juice from a local “all natural” grocery store. The mead is not in long term aging. It turned out very good.
You must have a defective mulberry tree
Is cloying the right term? I could eat a couple and enjoy them, after 5…..ugh.
My friend had a yuge mulberry tree in his yard. We used to get stoned and climb up in the tree and gorge ourselves, sitting there like macaques eating everything within reach.
Nope.
From Wikipedia: “The genus Rubus is a very complex one, particularly the blackberry/dewberry subgenus (Rubus), with polyploidy, hybridization, and facultative apomixis apparently all frequently occurring, making species classification of the great variation in the subgenus one of the grand challenges of systematic botany. ”
Shorter Answer: No.
Nope. While they are closely related, there are slight differences beyond color in the structure of the “berry”, which is technically an aggregate fruit. From wikipedia:
Thanks everyone for the information. I have long maintained that blackberries are superior to raspberries and was worried that I was going to have to blithely ignore this new information about raspberries.
I have a bunch of swing tops but they are Uerige bottles instead of Grolsch, because Im not willing to drink crappy beer just to get the bottles.
Also, Uerige Dopplesticke is insanely good.
They do sell the empty bottles as well. Although it may be more expensive then just buying Grolsch. 🙂
If you do go with swing tops, I would also suggest investing in picking up some extra of the red rubber grommets as well.
So none of the hyperlinks made it through. I will post some of the ones I remember in the comments.
Regarding small scale kegging:
https://www.williamsbrewing.com/KegLand-Mini-Kegs-C367.aspx
and
https://www.williamsbrewing.com/175-Gallon-NSF-Keg-Land-Keg-P3876.aspx
Mini-regulators:
https://www.williamsbrewing.com/Mini-Regulators-Parts-C328.aspx
Micro-regulators:
https://www.williamsbrewing.com/Micro-Regulators-Parts-C356.aspx
Keg faucets
https://www.williamsbrewing.com/Intertap-Keg-Faucet-P4695.aspx
Boo! The work proxy blocks “Alcohol and Tobacco” pages.
Mine, too. It makes me drunk with rage.
The old company used to have huge filters to block things, but they only blocked http traffic. So any site that used https was fine. Someone finally noticed their error a couple of weeks before I left.
I printed the article out and plastered it to the wall.
Good luck on your first batch of mead.
Have a cigarette and mellow.
Well done! I like articles like this.
So what is the difference between fruit mead and fruit wine? I’ve been making fruit wine for years and the process looks the same.
I am guessing the answer is: Honey.
Fermentable sugar
Fruit plus cane sugar would be wine
Fruit plus honey would be mead
I have made wine with honey (when I can afford it), so it would appear I’ve actually made mead.
Right now I have 5 gallons of blueberry wine in my closet I have to process.
The picture at the top is now six gallons of blueberry mead that I racked from primary into secondary last weekend.
I always liked the color I get from blueberries. Looks like a rich red wine.
What about the difference with fruit sushi?
No booze, just raw.
Better haircut.
Fruit is for Pie! and jam!
Dammit, there isn’t a cloud in the sky to shake my fist at.
Cool stuff, thank you.
you are welcome
OT Opinion: All post 2000 reanimations the Frankenstein story in film suck abnormal corpse balls.
I really enjoyed The Frankenstein Chronicles.
Unpopular opinion: The book is boring anyway.
One thing that surprised me about making fruit wine (which is a similar process), is how little time is spent on the actual fermentation. I find that in 10 days to 2 weeks, the yeast has generally turned all the sugar to alcohol. The rest of the process is just giving the unwanted particles time to settle out, and to improve the flavor by aging. This isn’t a very time consuming hobby.
Same time frame is true for beer, but the aging time is much shorter. For many beers, the 10 days to 2 weeks in enough. A 3rd or 4th week helps a bunch more, and really only high alcohol beasts need more than that. My 10% ABV Strong Dark Belgian needs about 3 months.
Yeah, the big time sink in beer is bottle fermentation. And lagering, of course, if that applies.
Honey tends to ferment a bit more slowly. At the temperature in my brewing room (62 degrees right now), I have several batches that have been fermenting for a couple of months now and are not complete yet.
Does Mead have any styles with intentional spoilage like with beer? Is funk a possible positive in mead?
None of the BJCP styles include sour/funky versions explicitly.
I have blended sour ale and mead to make a sweet & sour braggot that turned out great.
And I have a session mead in secondary that was made with Wyeast 3763 Roeselare Ale Blend. We’ll see if sour/funky mead works.
Nice, I was specifically wondering what Brett would do to a mead. I can see lacto being a positive, but not sure if the Brett earthy funk would always be offputting in a mead.
I blended a golden sour/funky ale with a lemon/vanilla mead made with Sourwood honey (tastes like cotton candy). It worked great.
Now you’re making me consider doing a small batch with a saison yeast and Brett finish. I do know a local meadery (that looks to be having trouble) went for quite a while going with acidic, dry meads that were quite good.
wondering what Brett would do to a mead.
He’s a form of Florida Man, so… smoke in in a glass pipe?
I was at Cascade Brewing last summer. They had a sour that was finished with honey, limes, and ginger. So I am making a sour/funky mead with honey, limes, and ginger.
Worst case scenario, if the mead doesn’t work, is that I blend it with a batch of sour ale to achieve something like Cascade Brewing had.
Next question would be if you have done any spontaneous fermentation? Not sure how close you are to the Iowa farmlands, but just open your window and let the local yeast have its way.
No spontaneous fermentations per se.
I have accidentally soured a couple of braggots that did not have hops in them (they went sour in the bottle and taste pretty good actually).
I have made enough sour ales that I will build a coolship one of these days and let a batch go where ever it wants to go.
Platform is supposed to be opening their Phunkenship location this year with a coolship. I know they’re already doing barrel aging to funk up some beers there. I’ll need to check if they’re planning on releasing anything from the coolship without blending.
OT: Here it comes…
https://finance.yahoo.com/video/illinois-may-tax-private-retirement-164356321.html
Been waiting for this one for a while.
TW: Autoplay.
There’s no text and I have no audio. Is this another depopulation by taxation scheme to drive out the productive classes?
Seizing private retirement accounts to prop up their failing pension system.
It’s what I’ve been predicting for a long time, first as a bailout for state pensions, then eventually nationally for SS.
Are we talking the accounts as they sit? The contributions? The Disbursements?
It’s just a proposal currently, but I think various flavors say all of the above.
ALL YOUR MONEY ARE BELONG TO US
A lot of other states already tax retirement income.
If it’s a tax on the account, that is, stealing x% of the value per year, it would be an entirely different beast from treating retirement account disbursements as income.
Agreed – that might be unprecedented. Poking around that site I didn’t see any mention of taxing accounts. That sounds like outright theft to me.
Since your link indicates they do not currently tax disbursements, this proposal could be anything.
“Seizing private retirement accounts to prop up their failing pension system.”
This is the only way our elite will be able to push out the imminent economic/societal collapse caused by the policies that have enriched them greatly while fucking everyone else over. Our masters will have to confiscate the money of the people that realized the government run schemes and scams would not be there for them in a future soon to come, and did their own job to make sure they didn’t need that money by saving.
What other choice do they have? Isn’t it written in their state constitution that those union retirement plans can’t be touched? Once this doesn’t work (which it won’t), I’d expect them to go to Uncle Sam for a bailout. That might actually be entertaining, given our current president.
In any event, Indiana will still welcome those downtrodden tax fugitives. Maybe we should build our own Statue of Liberty at the side of the toll road.
“That might actually be entertaining, given our current president.”
They’ll try to hold the current system together with duct tape and chewing gum until a Team Blue president is in office.
Lot
Grrr…
Lots of blue states are hoping that allowing their fiscal irresponsibility to keep rolling will eventually result in a federal bailout.
And the there will be a flood of blue states declaring bankruptcy? I can see that.
I can’t think of a single blue state that is not hoping to eventually have the US taxpayers bail them out through fed handouts. I can tell you with certainty that not a single one of them is trying to fix their spending problems. In “The People’s Republic of Connecticut”, our recently elected asshat governor is working with the democrat controlled legislation to find new taxes and fees to allow them to spend even more. That’s despite the fact that we already have a $1 billion or more annual spending deficit with an over taxed population and what amounts to the worst economy in the union.
The federal courts can overturn that when the state files bankruptcy. Illinois 2.0 isn’t beholden to the constitution of Illinois 1.0.
Since Cyprus.
OT: Trashing a key electoral demo, and one that is naturally sympathetic to your cause and could be persuaded to vote for you, sure seems like a winning strategy.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/prof-white-women-have-gone-from-slave-owners-to-trump-supporters/
I’m still waiting on evidence that Trump is an avowed white supremacist or that he endorses white supremacy as a political ideology.
I would say there is a mountain of evidence that he isn’t. No one I’ve asked about his supposed “racism” is able to give an answer beyond either:
1. “He says all Mexicans are rapists!” (he didn’t)
2. “He’s emboldened Nazis!” (again, where is the evidence, and further, how can he be responsible for what other people do?)
#1 is that Mexicans are brown and he doesn’t want them here since he’s building a wall to keep them out.
#2 is that he said that neither side was blameless in Charlottesville, ergo he sided with Nazis.
#3 is that he’s a gross old rich white man who isn’t Bernie or Biden so he’s probably a racist.
Near as I can tell that’s the dossier. It’s pretty thin gruel as far as I’m concerned, but I guess it’s good enough if you’re already convinced of the point to begin with.
You also forgot the “He wants to ban mulsims”.
(Yes, I know muslim isn’t a race, and the ban was on travel from unstable, unverifiable countries, but I still hear it used as “proof” of racism)
“it’s good enough if you’re already convinced of the point to begin with”
This. It wouldn’t matter what he did, he’d be a racist in their eyes. He could enact slavery reparations by executive order, or donate his entire fortune to the NAACP or bar white people from all Trump Hotels and they’d find some way to interpret it as white supremacy.
Articles of faith require no evidence.
OT: I’m gonna need to see a full-body pic to know if I support this or not.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/cambridge-economist-protests-brexit-by-giving-lecture-totally-nude-letting-people-sign-her-naked-body/
The people who go nude in public, especially as protest, are very often the people you don’t want to see unclothed.
I’m trying to turn over a new leaf, so I’m going to be very careful about what I say. Just like if you have to keep repeating the punchline to a joke it might just not be funny, or how you don’t have to give away for free things that people would want to pay for, if you keep coming up with reasons to get people to pay attention to your naked body it might just be that people aren’t that interested in seeing it.
There is a link that takes to you a video. As a thank you for your wonderful daily posts, I clicked it for you. You do not support this.
Thanks for enacting my labor.
It looks like she’s wearing panties made out of possum fur.
In truth, she is not wearing panties.
+1 Quest for Fire
Okay, I finally stumbled onto the answer for the title for the third son of a Graf.
It was Graf.
It was the tendency toward the English style primogenture of title that was introduced in the 19th century. So while the character is not The Graf von Zesrin, he is A Graf von Zesrin.
Graf makes a great skate, but I’m a Tacks man, myself.
OT: Worst homophobe ever.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081
“He’s just doing that to divert attention from his horrifically pro-hate domestic policies.”
“The administration is responding in part to a reported hanging of a young gay man in Iran, Trump’s top geopolitical foe.”
Looks like the media is going to paint it as “for political reasons.”
Unlike Obama coming out for gay marriage after Biden forced his hand.
Euphemism?
FTA:
Yeah, I’m going to guess that those countries won’t take too kindly to being lectured by Americans and Europeans. It’s a nice thought, though.
The arrogance is fairly astounding.
The media is just full of fuckin’ surgeons:
How the fuck does an allegedly intelligent, educated person not know where George Washington was born?
I can’t even figure out what language they’re speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZxCfb4Z_Ks
Katy Tur would have much more value to the world as a 10 dollar crack whore. It would also fit her intellect a lot better.
Because she’d only cost about six-fitty?
“native son of New York”?
that phrase must not mean what i think it means.
Sure it does. It means “Virginian.”
SHOUT OUT TO SOUTH SOUTH NEW YORK BIG VA WAATTUUPPPPP!!!!!
Still classier than West Joisey.
She heard that people commute from Mount Vernon in Westchester County and the rest is history.
Katy Durrrrrrrr…..
Ummm… maybe stop producing unwatchable garbage?
https://www.recode.net/2019/2/18/18228927/barry-diller-iac-expedia-netflix-amazon-prime-hollywood-kara-swisher-recode-decode-podcast-interview
I’ve heard that the reason Hollywood is producing such trash is that they’re no longer producing content for the USA. They’ve shifted to China so they just keep making and remaking content-free and politically benign superhero knockoffs. To the eyes of newly cash-flush ChiComs, such pageantry is fun and amazing. I think it’s a decent theory.
I listen to/read Seth Godin’s stuff, and he’s often talking about the “gatekeepers”. It used to be that, to make a movie, you had to go to Hollywood and make a pitch, and hope that an executive would say yes. But now almost anyone can afford the equipment and means of distribution on their own. But there are also several ways to get a movie in front of people besides a traditional theater or TV. The gatekeepers have become irrelevant.
Well, once they implement new chinese-style gatekeepers on all that internet content, they will be relevent again!
Tell that to the guys behind Axanar
They were working in someone else’s property.
Admittedly, the smart move for Paramount/CBS would have been to offer them a discounted noncommercial license to complete the project. (or even just waived any license fee with an agreement to keep the finished product noncommercial) Which would have been welcomed by the engaged fan base. (But would have made Discovery look even worse). But this is not a counter-example to what Kevin is talking about.
Have you ever lost a batch?
2 in 16 years.
Were they sanitation fuckups or did you literally “lose” them.. like in a custody battle or something?
He could have sworn he had a batch left around here somewhere…
You batch your ass he did.
*asspirator
Sanitation. Products went wonky (not funky in a good way, but wonky in a bad way) during long term aging.
And, now that I think about it, it has been three batches. One batch of cider went so bad, I spit the sample back into the cup. I had blocked that one from my memory.
Batches and hoes!
blueberries and rasp/black berries shouldn’t involve much hoeing, strawberries maybe.
Blackberries are unkillable. They are weeds.
And yet, deer and rabbits killed some in my yard.
Thanks Neph for the great article! (Kidding, kidding. Fine job, Kinnath. I’m curious to hear how your version of the Honey, Ginger, Lime sour mead turns out).
I will post when it is done.
Speaking of mead, I get to pick up the quarterly subscription for the girlfriend this week from Crafted. Included are 1 each of the following:
2017 Bananas Foster Forever
2017 Apothelyptic Farmhouse
2018 Peanut Butter Bananas Foster Forever
2018 Cinnaman Bun
2018 This Is A Black Walnut And Fig
2018 This Is A Blueberry Blossom Mead
They do distribute to other states, and ship to others.
I’ve looked at their website before (thanks to you posting their link earlier). I have to say that I find some of their description to be very unappealing. Some look great. But I have not interest in coffee, hops, or peanuts in my mead.
Yeah. Most of their session ones are the ones with strange names and flavors. The girlfriend likes those (except any with spice or the gose series). Their still meads (standard strength, “This is a…”) are more to my preference.
The still meads (minus the hop nectar) and the two session meands — Madras & Berry Savage — look interesting.
For the more traditionalist take, we’ve also got Western Reserve Meadery (near the brewery area of Cleveland, online ordering) and the Bottlehouse (three locations, focuses more on tap, no online sales). Last I’ve heard, Cleveland is still in the running for Homebrew Con 2020.
I am skipping Providence this year. Cleveland is driveable from Iowa.
Thanks Kinnath! I hope to start my first batch this weekend.
I’m probably not going to back sweeten but I am going to bottle condition. I’m assuming I’ll need to skip the potassium sorbate?
Correct, sorbate prevents fermentation. So no sorbate in bottle conditioned products (wine, mead, cider).
Another missing link:
Common Sugar and Acid Levels of Fruits
Ruh-roh.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/8376421/this-morning-dr-sara-kayat-new-super-gonorrhoea-warning/
SLUTS
Like, omigod.
I was going to say I am immune because of marriage but someone would just tell the ‘How did I get this?! I never cheated on my wife!’ joke.
Thank you!
you are welcome
A buddy of mine used to do a batch of mead every couple months, mostly melomels. The last time I was over to his hovel he offered me a glass of something very dry and rather unpleasant. He’d used catnip for it. Why? He had a bunch around. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sounds like a great way to ensure the cat won’t stay off the table.
Give it to Commodious; he’ll try it, he’ll try anything!
must… not… make… pussy… joke…
Solid analysis.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/02/hate-crime-hoaxes-reflect-americas-sickness/
I’m bored at work.
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Gojira, I thought you left us. How about some movie reviews?
Katy Tur would have much more value to the world as a 10 dollar crack whore. It would also fit her intellect a lot better.
She’d have to pay me more than ten bucks.
Sitting thru a web seminar on state sales tax changes. Jesus, what a clusterfuck since the Wayfair decision.
The states are out to tax everything with a vengeance now.
They’re far more addicted to taxes than anybody ever was to opioids.
Jesus, what a clusterfuck since the Wayfair decision.
Their intentions were good.
Now, it’s up to the little people to do the coolie labor of implementation.
Let the court enforce it.
Doesn’t work out as well for buisnessmen
Late to the party, but I really enjoyed this, kinnath!
thanks.
When to you start?
Lol.
You mean start the drive down to IA to be a guinea pig for your fine products?
that can be arranged
Staying with friends and watching documentaries because buddies.wife is super pregnant. She’s far enough along that not drinking is probably the right thing to do (for him) just in case. Anywho, we are watching the Lorena Bobbitt documentary. Evidentally she’s the new #metoo heroine. Evidentally genital mutation is ok if he’s a shitlord.
Evidentally she’s the new #metoo heroine.
Fuck that. She could have left.
But I suppose men are justified in physically mutilating emotionally or physically abusive wives now.
Whoopi Goldberg praises the act shamelessly in the documentary. These people are fucking sociopaths.
Isnt Whoopie Cushion the one who said Roman Polanski did not commit rape-rape?
Figures.
She’s far enough along that not drinking is probably the right thing to do (for him)
But she’s chugging right?
Gatorade. I feel bad for her. 8 mos pregnant seems like no fun.
Nope. I don’t know how women do it.
He picked a winner. Most wives wouldn’t tolerate a drinking buddy house guest at this point. She rolls with it.
We call that a ‘keeper’.
Oh gosh. I gained 10 pounds in a week guzzling Gatorade, late in the pregnancy also. My nurses about had a heart attack and rushed me to the ER till I told them what I was drinking. They told me to stop doing that.
Didn’t she get off on an insanity defense? What a joke.
The funny thing is it’s a revisionist documentary viewed through the #metoo era. A story about terrible human behavior somehow gets twisted into man bad/woman good narrative. I’m waiting for subsequent penis chopings as a form of performance art.
Seriously! She should have known everyone would just laugh and agree he deserved it!
Great article,K! Hopefully I get to make some this year
thanks
Well I am home and playing catch up here. Great article. I will be trying this very soon.
Let us know how it turns out.
Great article! Any suggestions for a hopped mead?