The Irish look at us celebrating St. Patrick’s Day and just shake their heads. And they sure don’t gorge on corned beef. Well, screw ’em.
I had a small brisket in the deep freeze, so I separated the point from the flat and cured them separately.
Corned beef did originate in Ireland but the history is complicated. “Corn” referred to the large grain salt the meat was preserved in. This was well before refrigeration and preserving meat in salt was a standard practice throughout the world. This is a pretty entertaining read on the history of salt.
Most modern corned beef is wet cured in a brine solution but having done it both ways, I like the texture that results from dry curing. It also takes much less space.
Okay, as we discussed with bacon, the amount of cure is critical to developing a safe product. I weighed out my two pieces and plugged them into the cure calculator on the Digging Dog Farm website.
Next up are the seasonings:
3tbsp black pepper
1.5tbsp ground coriander
.75tsp mustard powder
.75tbsp brown sugar
1.5tsp garlic powder
1.5tsp onion powder
Pepper and coriander were toasted and ground up. All the ingredients were combined, split in half and blended with the cure for each cut of beef. A note on quantities, this is roughly based on the weight of the meat. You can be creative here and do what you want. There are plenty of spice recipes out there on the Interwebs.
Ziplock bags will work just fine for the curing process, but I find vacuum sealing works slightly better and the vacuum gives better penetration of the cure and seasonings.
Each piece of meat is put in a bag and half the cure mixture is poured in on each side. *euphemism alert* You need to massage your meat well to get the rub evenly distributed. Seal the bag, getting as much air out as you can, if you’re using a Ziplock bag, mark with the date and toss it in the fridge. Flip it every couple of days and give it a little massage. I let mine go two weeks.
When we reach the day of reckoning, remove the meat from the bags, rinse them well, trying to get as much of the rub off as possible. There will still be some leftover. Slice off a small piece and do a fry test. You’re looking for flavor and salt level. Any off odors or flavors, out it goes. If you’re going to continue on to pastrami and the fry test is too salty, you can soak it overnight in cold water. Dry the meat and toss in the fridge on a rack overnight.
I decided to turn the flat into pastrami. After it had dried overnight, I rubbed it with a bit of whiskey, and then coated it with equal amounts of coarse ground black pepper and coriander. Then into the smoker at 240 on cherry, until it reaches an internal temperature of 200-205.
For the point on St. Patty’s Day, I like to braise in Guinness. Any dark beer will work but, hey. Time depends on the size of the cut, I believe this small piece took 2 – 2 1/2 hours.
Now the style points. You could easily pull it, let it rest why you cook your vegetables, or you could go an extra step. I like to take some of the braising liquid, add a touch of honey and mustard, and cook it down to a glaze. The meat goes into a roasting pan and gets glazed several times over 20 minutes while in a 350 degree oven while the vegetables cook. Trust me, it’s worth it. Just make sure to adjust the sweetness in the glaze, if necessary before using it.
Slice and serve with your favorite Irish beverage of the day.
Deedle-ee-dee!
Also, looks tasty. Thanks for the write up!
That looks good. I did a sous vide corned beef that was good but not great – it was a little dry, which is really strange for sous vide.. I didn’t let it cure nearly as long as you, which maybe the problem.
That pastrami pic gave me kind of a chubby. Dayum.
If it was dry, that tends to mean it wasn’t cooked long enough. The connective tissue didn’t break down.
I think it was in the sous vide for two days or so, if memory serves. And it was a good (looking) piece of meat.
I see from the featured image on the main page that you decided to dox yourself. So brave.
The kids love it.
Dang, Spud. That looks phenomenal.
Why did you cure the point and flat separately?
There’s only two of us, so I didn’t want to cook a four pound piece of meat for St. Patty’s day.
You have two dogs! Sort of Irish ones at that!
From my experience dogs don’t handle corned beef very well.
That’s how you turn them into puddle pups. And at 100lbs and 70lbs, I do not want that mess to clean up!
They tend to cook a little differently anyway.
True. I separate them when smoking, also.
Separate what, the dogs?
Man, I need a vacuum sealer.
So, two questions:
1. The difference between pastrami and corned beef is smoking?
2. Historically, how did the curing process take place? Like, let’s say for shits and grins I wanted to do an authentic Colonial Williamsburg-style curing of that brisket, meaning no refrigeration, no plastic, basically just a hunk of meat and whatever ingredients would be available at the time. What’s that look like? Am I basically covering that sucker in salt and keeping it somewhere cool and dark? This isn’t to say that I’m about to do that, but historical cooking interests me.
1. Yes.
2. The meat was layered in barrels with coarse salt spread heavily over the layers. I’m not sure about the time frame, but salted meat was shipped around the world on sailboats.
This salting practice goes back to the time before written text existed, and kept happening until the late 1920s with serious regularity. The advent of cheap refrigeration is what ended that practice…
2. Correct, and this is called the “salt box cure” method. There is an important difference in that when you salt box cure, you need to soak the meat to remove the excess salt – there is going to be a ton of it. So its a good addition in small quantities to a big stew, but if you want to eat a slab of it, you need to soak it and discard the water. Or put the water in a clay jug and let it evaporate for a real authentic Colonial Williamsburg experience.
The more modern way of careful measurements give you a fully cured product that isn’t too salty. The salt box method gives you a shelf-stable meat product with no need for precision measurements or math.
Salt pork and salt cod you can still buy this way. Salt pork is usually used in small bits in beans, stew, etc. Salt cod is usually soaked to reduce the salt content, then used like fish in any other dish (taste and texture are different). Salt cod, scrambled eggs, onion, and chives with a bit of sour cream is ++. Add some fish roe on top if you can get it.
+1 bacala
I remember when we first moved to Virginia, my mom bought a big ol’ Smithfield ham at the grocery store. Unfortunately, having just moved down from NY, she didn’t know about the need to soak it before baking. Completely inedible.
Same preparation for cooking lutefisk: let it soak in cold water for two days, changing the water twice per day.
…then throw the lutefisk out, because we no longer have to eat such things to avoid starvation.
+1 sea bugs, land bugs, assorted innards, and other “delicacies”
You left out the “throw that vile crap away and order a pizza” step. Curing in salt is fine, curing in sugar as well, curing in honey, with smoke, with vinegar, with wine, with citrus are wonderful ideas. Only someone with brain damage would cure food with lye.
Ahem, hominy and masa harina are wonderful.
So before curing salts was it just a matter of using regular ol’ salt and hoping for the best? I would assume that curing salts are one of those things that aren’t absolutely necessary (since salting has been around longer) but preferable (since everyone uses them).
Celery juice has nitrates, but I don’t know when that came into use for curing.
Fairly recently. And it makes no difference what the source is, it’s all the same thing.
Yes. But they used a LOT more salt. As was mentioned above, the meat had to be soaked in water to make it edible.
I’ve always wondered that. Seems like enough salt to kill bacteria would kill you too. Good to know.
Now, why are nitrates safe to eat (kind of) but fatal to bugs?
The amount of nitrates you’re eating is very minimal. With the calculator I use, it’s 156 parts per million. WAY below any risk to you but deadly to bacteria.
Yeah, but why does 156 ppm kill bugs? I guess I could Google it. . .
A Smithfield ham takes 24-36 hours of soaking with several water changes before cooking.
You can look for cottage ham as well, it’s another one of the cuts that need to be soaked/simmered to draw out the excess salt. One local place didn’t do that once, and the little bits of cottage ham in the omelet almost burned the inside of your mouth they were so salty.
Video of Bill’s last dinner party
Needs more dogs eating off the table and people eating off the stove.
Picture from the most recent TC glib meat up.
Fourscore had on that exact jacket!
Leap’s recipe for the sauce on the venison sticks was a perfect addition as well. I was going to copy it off his shirt cuff but he buttoned the shirt too fast.
Damn.. now I want some..
Pastrami is delicious. Maybe your taste is different, Spud, but I much prefer it to corned beef, which I eat only in hash (the recipe, not the weed derivation.)
Although…
I’m a sucker for a good pastrami sandwich. I do a goose breast pastrami that is awesome.
Should we have Q sample that and comment since he is our resident expert of breastesses?
I think he likes them injected with fillers though.
Like Caneloni? Filled donuts? Stuffed birds? Those sound yummy…
Stuffed birds? What are you , a Limey?
Anything that results in one less Hate Bird, the Bird That Hates, is a good thing.
They are moving north through here now, soon you will have them back.
If they really hated us, they wouldn’t taste so good.
Huh? They are vile!
I stopped hunting them because no one would take them.
I got an invite to a friend’s for Canada Goose dinner. The gravy was tough. Could not eat a single bite. Maybe pressure cook it for a day or two wouldn’t hurt. Too much like loon…
Farmed goose is delicious, wild goose… I’m going with it’s an acquired taste, although I suppose it depends on what the goose has fed on.
I don’t really remember – I’m sure I’d had it at least once and enjoyed it. And that it came from a store.
If you’re ever in Austin, the Counter Cafe uses pastrami instead of Canadian bacon on their eggs Benedict. It is a significant improvement.
Looks good. What %’s did you use for this? I’ve was playing around with making Canadian Bacon last year using different concentrations of sugars like maple syrup and honey, and I seem to have lost all my notes (which is kind of a feat since I keep them in Google Drive…)
2% salt, 1% sugar and 1.1gm cure #1 per pound. Using the cure calculator linked above takes the guesswork out of it.
Cool, maybe I’ll start there. I’ve used that calculator too. Dyslexia + curing could = ded, so I don’t like to do the math myself…
Dyslexia + curing could = ded
I think you’d smell it if it were that far gone.
I once tried to copy & paste an omega symbol in my capstone paper, which I was writing on Drive, and google interpreted that as delete my entire paper and don’t answer any emails about it. Only paranoia saved me as I didn’t trust them and had downloaded pdf copies as I was going along.
Okay, kids. I have to drag my fat ass to the gym. I’ll be back in a bit.
OT reading a discussion around the point that big companies love the minimum wage because it stifles small business competition. A pro min wage person stated, if that’s true why don’t all big corporations just raise their wages now to destroy all small businesses… I give up on these people.
The government force part of the equation just doesn’t register with some people.
why don’t all big corporations just raise their wages now to destroy all small businesses
Because, you freakin’ moron, the idea is to force the small businesses to go broke. Raising your pay scale doesn’t do. Raising their pay scale does.
I remember when I was a little kid, sometime shortly after beef was actually invented, the first time I heard the term “corned beef.” I had a mental picture of a big beef roast with kernels of corn shoved into it all over, and thought, “why would anyone want to eat that?”
Of course, now I love corned beef.
Dear Monsanto,
You probably get these letters all the time, but if you could make a big beef roast with kernels of corn shoved into it all over, I would buy the fuck out of that.
I used to think it was because they fed the cows corn instead of hay. For an embarrassingly long time.
Just now you mean?
What are you doing to that poor brisket??? Just kidding, it looks delicious in both forms.
OT: I’m currently on my 4th work laptop since starting my job 2 years ago. This laptop now requires me to reboot 4+ times per day because the graphics chip gets wonky and parts of the screen start to flicker in a way that makes at least half the screen unusable. They could’ve taken all the money they “saved” by issuing shit computers to an employee who spends 9 hours a day staring at his computer and bought me a decent laptop in the first place. They would be ahead by well over a grand at this point.
When they get you to throw it in a corner and provide your own in frustration then the savings really roll in.
I wouldn’t be the first in my department to go that route.
You’re in-house right? Or is the client getting billed for this too?
Amazing how penny wise and dollar foolish companies can be.
Yep, I’m in-house. At a big tech company. A big tech company that, for reasons I won’t get into for fear of doxxing myself, should have no problem providing high quality work computers.
You work for Alienware?
That would be funny, Alienware employees getting shafted with Acer laptops.
This is why I hate laptops. Cheap laptops are absolute garbage. Good laptops are still limited by the form factor, making them prone to heat damage and just generally a shitty alternative to a desktop computer setting aside their portability. Luckily, I don’t need to use a computer anywhere but the same desk, so the mobility isn’t an issue. I’ve never found a laptop that offered a pleasant user experience.
Work stays at work, can’t beat that.
I travel and WFH too much to get away with a desktop, but I’d be happy as a clam if they gave me a VM and a bulletproof laptop to connect as a dumb terminal.
If they wanted to toss in one of these, I wouldn’t complain.
Yeah, I always resented getting stuck with a shitty laptop because I was expected to drop everything and work wherever I was at any time, while the fresh out of coding camp guys all got kick-ass desktops because they didn’t take their work home with them.
I play a ton of video games on PC and do a lot of development at home both for work and for personal projects, so the PC I’ve got at home is pretty beefy, plus I’ve got a very nice keyboard and mouse and three monitors. At work I finally got them to just buy me a desktop. Even though it’s a Dell XPS it’s not too bad compared to the laptop I had at first. Mechanical keyboard and one of my older gaming mouses, too, so it’s a pretty good setup.
I have an enormous uber-powerful desktop PC with a 4-terabyte backup drive that houses almost all of the work product I’ve developed in my fifteen years consulting. But that’s in my office.
In Colorado.
Here in my temporary digs in (ugh) New Jersey, I have a big 20″ Asus gaming laptop that stays permanently in the apartment we leased, hooked up to keyboard, mouse and big monitor. That’s my “desktop replacement” for long-term gigs. I also have a featherweight little Microsoft Surface that travels with me everywhere – and, of course the company laptop this client issued me, fortunately another featherweight little Lenovo.
So, one business, four computers. Such is my life.
What until you see what my mom does to brisket this Passover.
Winston hacked HM?
Red meat, not dark meat.
Is it PG13?
Before, or after she’s done with it?
Why is there a tingle running up my leg while I read this?
Because you are related to Chris Matthews?
I am picturing cholent bbq. Dualethnic cuisine
“They could’ve taken all the money they “saved” by issuing shit computers to an employee who spends 9 hours a day staring at his computer and bought me a decent laptop in the first place. They would be ahead by well over a grand at this point.”
Like the fucking bean counters give a shit about other people suffering to do their job right. It’s about their bonus, and that requires them to fuck over everyone.
Seriously, I went to war with my procurement area when they brought in such a cheap and crappy device that we barely could do the work we needed to AND then told everyone they would be moving everyone to soft phones and video conferencing using these crap machines. I took my computer to my CIO’s top teach guy (my boss) and showed him how this was not possible, then proceeded to produce a minimum spec device that would not only meet the current needs, but scale for at least the next 2 or so years without any issue.
They freaked out because I recommended 8CPU 32GB RAM (minimum) 1TB SSD HD devices with top of the line components because – guess what? – it cost $144 per unit more than the shitty model they had been rolling out with not even 1/10 of that capability. So when I pointed out that only IT people would need these and that they could then not rotate the computers every 2 years but more like 5 years because of the specs I proposed.
One of them did the math and saw how much money not having to issue 2 waves of computers to some 350 employees in IT, when the gap with between the current unit and the one I wanted was only $144 (the gap between 2 different devices in a 5 year span was almost 9 times more), and ran to their big boss to claim they had come up with the brilliant idea, except I had already talked to their boss about this when I got pissed about the bull from the bean counters.
Now this is company policy. All the bosses got big bonuses. Me being IT I got a talking to because I had been rude to the bean countrers. I guess I will just have to stay happy with the fact all developers now call me daddy because they finally have a computer that doesn’t suck…
I had a run-in with the accounting department over some capital equipment that had been written off. I wanted to bring it back into service at a remote facility.
“We can’t do that! We’d have to write it up in value!”
Well dumbass, it’s either that or we go out and procure brand new equipment at ten times the write up value and a definite reduction in cash position.
“Why don’t you rent it instead?”
BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE ONE SITTING IN THE FUCKING CLOSET COLLECTING DUST YOU MORON.
I guess I will just have to stay happy with the fact all developers now call me daddy because they finally have a computer that doesn’t suck…
Dear Penthouse…
You left out “…I never thought this would happen to me…”
I love corned beef, but pastrami gives me a horrible gut-ache. I’ve never noticed a problem with other smoked meats. Any idea if something else in the pastrami might be setting me off?
It would be the black pepper or coriander crust. And in many cases, there are other spices in the crust.
All this talk about smoking meat and not a single Winston’s Mom joke.
Something something sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Amateur interracial porn.
“dont worry, our slaves shall come back” 😀
OT: DA FUG????
I hate everyone involved.
Hate crime!
Yup, including the douche who wrote the article.
I mean, Chelsea was Bradley when the events referenced took place. I don’t see what the problem is. We routinely have people who change their names for a number of reasons, e.g. marriage, and nobody expects their name to be erased from the world’s collective memory as a result.
I don’t see what the problem is.
Not so much a problem as an opportunity to discredit your opposition with an ad hominem.
Mercy and grace doesn’t help consolidate power in a totalitarian government.
Well, if Chelsea was always Chelsea then Chelsea didn’t need surgery to become Chelsea. Or Chelsea was lying about being Bradley, which I believe would be criminal as Chelsea maintained the Bradley identity for years. On the other hand, if Chelsea was Bradley but became Chelsea later, then it’s totally appropriate to refer to Bradley and Chelsea as two separate versions of the same person, or the same person before and after some major life event. There’s plenty of cultures that do some form of the latter without anyone’s hair catching on fire.
Or, you know, it’s really about eroding shared cultural norms and attacking core, shared cultural elements such as language.
“I mean, Chelsea was Bradley when the events referenced took place. I don’t see what the problem is.”
What does the prison records show is its name?
I believe the charging documents refer to one Bradley Manning. I don’t think Chelsea can get out of prison just because she happened to wake up in Bradley’s old body after surgery.
And what do entities such as the Social Security Admin and any potential mortgage lender refer to it as?
I am sure not a single legal entity would refer to him as anything other than Bradley Manning. I suspect not a single one would got with the Chelsea nonsense if they were trying to make sure Bradley stopped paying and then told them he had no idea who Chelsea was anyway…
The saddest thing is that in 2019 I can totally see some activist lawyers trying to leverage that as defense.
“There is no Bradley, there is only Zuu…err…Chelsea!”
It’s like how Wikipedia’s article on Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner is very cautious not to use a first name or any pronouns in the sections about track and field.
That was Bruce on the Wheaties box dammit.
The dude’s name is Brad, or was. If he had it changed legally then ok. Whatever.
You didn’t ask me nuffin.
You were in a vacuum sealed bag.
“We can’t do that! We’d have to write it up in value!”
Well dumbass, it’s either that or we go out and procure brand new equipment at ten times the write up value and a definite reduction in cash position.
Christ on a titanium platter. This is why i never had a “real” job. Too much potential for workplace violence.
Well, that and you always responded to the help wanted ads in the wrong spot.
*applause*
Well, that and you always responded to the help wanted ads in the wrong spot.
I didn’t spend six and a half years in clown college to be a bookkeeper.
You’re Penn from Penn and teller?
John Wayne Gacy Jr
Trump threatening to send illegal aliens to sanctuary cities. Proggies freak out.
Tough shit. You wanted ’em, you got ’em.
I am starting to really like this Trump guy.
How racist of them!
I just saw Pelosi freaking out about it. They wanted to shit on us and Trump is threatening to rub their noses in it instead. We will see what actually happens.
There wasn’t a motherfucking peep when Obama settled large groups of refugees in rural areas that vote solidly Republican. So fuck ’em.
Eventually even progs get tired of this stuff. It’s slowly happening with the homeless bums in Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco.
World. Class. Trolling.
Word.
Well then.
Why not? How do they think all those Somalis wound up in Minneapolis?
‘Officials at the Department of Homeland Security’….determined that it was inappropriate and could not be carried out.
“You’re fired.”
Yup.
Democrats yesterday: “all people welcome in our sanctuary cities”
Democrats today: “Trump wants to move migrants into our city? Hell no we don’t want them!”
It’s brilliant. He called their bluff.
He’s like the kid who just spams down smash as peach in smash bros melee. It’s only one move, but nobody else can seem defeat it.
eventually conducted a review that determined it was inappropriate and could not be carried out
Why?
I could easily justify it, on the basis that these cities have demonstrated they are the most welcoming, the illegals are more likely to stay there rather than disappearing underground while their applications are pending, etc.
My idea is to send them all to Hawaii, because fuck that judge, and because an island is the easiest place to keep an eye on them while their apps are pending.
Fundamentally, the Feds have to choose where to release them. Is there some legal obligation to release them in a geographically egalitarian manner?
The argument could easily be made that these cities are the best choice for the illegals and will provide them with the best resources.
Unless of course, the sanctuary proclamations were all bullshit political statements that they didn’t really mean, but they just wanted to signal the virtue of their opposition.
Not gonna happen though, unfortunately.
Doesn’t matter. It’s the headlines that Trump wanted, and got. Plus, it’ll be a talking point for 2020 elections.
I saw that this morning. The only thing that would make it better is if ICE slapped cuffs on one of those illegals at a protest publicly proclaiming their guilt while at the same time demanding that they have political rights in this country equal to citizens -or- the feds arrest every state official, including elected ones, in violation of federal immigration laws by aiding and abetting these illegal sanctuary areas. Would make for some interesting popcorn.
Counterpoint: those migrants who were headed to a particular place will just move there. After going through god knows how many miles of fucking Mexico, a bus ticket will not be a difficulty.
Those who weren’t will stay…in a city already full of migrants, which wants them there since it fucks with ICE.
So how does this own the libs? Literally doing what they want. It’s not like any of these people would live in Pelosi’s neighborhood, so all he’s doing is increasing the population of blue states, which does count for representatives.
TL;DR: How’s this not what they were going to do before they got caught?
To people who believe that illegals cause a social and fiscal burden on their communities, it looks a lot like making the progs put their money where their mouth is.
Id be curious how many illegals would hop on a bus v. how many would stick around and reap the benefits of being in a sanctuary city.
We can shit anywhere we want!
As I said, anyone coming because Cousin Pablo down in El Paso said “man, there’s work here, come” is getting on a phone with Pablo and telling him he’s on his way.
Anyone coming in blind would have headed to a sanctuary city anyway. I mean, it’s not like these are lilly-white gated communities where the only dark-skinned guy is Chad whose mom went on that trip to Jamaica that time.
But yes, I can imagine idiots thinking “har har har, Pelosi gets illegal family next door” as if…what, Trump was gonna dump fifty people on Pelosi’s street, and cops wouldn’t move them along?
The very idea and the response are so retarded I can’t even comprehend them.
“We are for strict immigration, so we’ll release illegals into areas where ICE can’t get at them”
“MAGA!!!!”
“No you can’t you orange monster!!”
I think Sean above nailed it – it’s an election soundbite, nothing more.
Everybody knows they’ll mostly wind up in sanctuary cities anyway, because where all their buddies and the benefits are.
*that’s where
Right. And world class trolling.
Pelosi already bit.
TEAM trumps principle. I can’t decide if team is also trumping political advantage, or if team red is actually stupid enough to think piling all the illegals in Blue States won’t change the electoral map.
I have some good news to share.
I have accepted a new job offer. I wasn’t even looking but received a contact from a recruiter. A former colleague had recommended me. The opportunity sounds interesting so here I am.
I’ve spent the last 9 months as a report developer. I’m okay at it. I’ve learned a ton. And one of the things I’ve learned is that I am not cut out to write modified SQL query codes in a custom report writer language 8 hours a day. It’s not challenging and I’m bored out of my g-d skull.
Less time for Glibs in the new job I suspect, but the new position is with a regional bank here in town.
Going by the cigar store to get a nice stick and I plan to enjoy it with some aged rum tonight to celebrate.
Congrats, now get to work peasant!
Congrats! Always fun to start a new adventure. I hope it goes well!
Congrats! Enjoy that cigar.
Congratulations. Selfishly we would rather see you around here more but we would be ok with you being more successful and happy. I guess that’s ok.
This new job may be the solution. Too bad its not a government job and we could have a time share on CA’s time card. Knock ’em dead, CA !
Congrats, now would you mind adjusting the margins on this report by a little so the fields line up better? And decrease the font size one point, but make sure it can still be easily read?
Sweet! Congrats!
Best of luck!
Congrats! I hope the new job doesn’t tie you up too much!
We’re knot going here are we?
I agree, let’s not slip into this silliness.
Yeah, don’t string us along.
Bight me!
Frayed knot.
Sir, please exercise some restraint!
Hey, its good noose!
*NARROWS GAZE*
all of you.
Congrats!
Well done and congratulations! It’s always nice when good things find you when you’re not looking.
“Exxxxxxxcellent, Smithers!”
Enjoy the upgrade, d00d.
Mazel tov! It’s great when a job comes looking for you!
Let us know how the embezzlement goes!
I guess though we’ll figure it out when you show up late complaining about your Cristal hangover and how it’s so hard to find decent titanium-cored alligator leather paddles.
Congratulations. Stay knotty.
Congratulations! The one named after a river further south?
Good for you! We’ll hoist one tonight in your honor.
Great news! Congrats.
Congrats!
Congratulations!
I’m not much as a chef or cook but I have the eating part down rather well. Good cooking, Spud, my wife buys the beef corned and we eat what ever that is. I’m hungry but now have to wait 11 months for the Luck to return. Ethics.
Officials at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) at first thought the proposal was not serious, but eventually conducted a review that determined it was inappropriate and could not be carried out, according to the Post.
Deep State? Oh, you crazy liberoonytoonians.
These are professional bureaucrats who take their duties seriously.
I have some good news to share.
I have accepted a new job offer.
J-j-j-job?
*hisses, recedes into shadows*
“I have some good news to share. I have accepted a new job offer.”
OK, but what’s the good news?
Outrage!
Just when you thought he couldn’t go any lower, he did.
The “he” here is President Donald Trump. And what he did was pressure Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen to take undocumented immigrants detained trying to enter the country and bus them to sanctuary cities located in the congressional districts of prominent Democratic members of Congress including Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-California). (Nielsen was removed from her post on Sunday, the first of a broader purge within DHS executed by Trump over the past five days.)
The cynicism here is towering. Trump — and top aide Stephen Miller — pushed this idea on two occasions under the belief that if they could put undocumented immigrants in the backyards, quite literally, of opponents of the administration’s hard-line immigration plans that they would change some minds among those opponents. Or at the very least, make their lives harder.
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The fact that this would even be considered speaks volumes about how Trump (and Miller) view not only the ongoing crisis at the border, but human beings more generally.
Because this is, at heart, a story about people. People who tried to enter the country illegally, yes. But people nonetheless. And what the President of the United States wanted to do to these human beings was turn them, literally speaking, into political pawns. Ship them somewhere so that they could, maybe, accomplish a political goal of his — and, if not that, then just make things more uncomfortable for his political opponents.
Are these people a benefit to the community, or aren’t they? Should they be welcomed, or not?
At least the progressives can claim the moral high ground. They would never stoop to using people for political gain.
Why would it make things uncomfortable for his opponents? I bet Pelosi would make a big show out of how many undocumented refugees she could house in her home(s) while she was in Washington DC and not using them.
So, the objection isn’t that he was mistreating the illegals or that he was sending them to their peril. It was that he was able to manufacture a political win, and that’s just not allowed.
Fundamentally, that’s it. The louder they protest, the more obvious it becomes.
The idea that power politician Nancy Pelosi actually gives a shit about illegals beyond their usefulness as a political tool is laughable.
Isn’t she technically a barrow wight or something?
Nice SugarFree there.
Also, a lot of words to say “Orange Man Bad.”
This is a really good demonstration of confirmation bias. Because you know that if Trump had done just the opposite – pressure DHS to bus immigrant to cities that are NOT sanctuary cities – the outcry would be exactly the same.
transporting them to sanctuary cities seems like a humane decision. obviously he does it for the lulz but what’s going to do? send them to Arpaio country? how the Leftest shrills would REEEE if he did that.
I get the humor, and I am not an open borders guy, but there is a pretty clear difference between “It is our country and we won’t let you in” (which I argue is a fundamental component of sovereignty) and “C’mon in, now you must live where we tell you to live” (which is pretty clearly authoritarian)
I didn’t see anything about telling them they had to stay there.
if anything, he’s taking them where they’ll have less anxiety and more social services support.
As I understand it, this is about where to put the illegal immigrants who they’ve run out of room for in detention centers. Such people are generally released under the condition that they present themselves at the court appointed time/place for judgement, and it seems Trump’s desire is to release them into sanctuary cities for the months/years it takes to process their cases. It’s not about forcing legal immigrants to live in places against their will.
All projection all of the time.
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fucking Brooksie amirite.
This looks delicious.