“Sergeant Brown, since it’s going to be a while may I go inside and use the bathroom,” asked Ramesh.
“Sure,” said Brown. “Just stay on the First Floor.”
“I’ll keep an eye on him,” said Murphy.
They walked through the glass doors and into the building lobby. Behind the empty security desk a grimy Panasonic CRT monitor slowly cycled through different security camera feeds. They reached the elevators and Murphy paused.
“You going to be long,” asked Murphy.
“No,” said Ramesh feeling as if he was eight years old on a roadtrip with his parents.
Murphy stopped to read the Vandersnatch Building directory signboard. Ramesh hurried past Murphy, grateful that his surveillance didn’t extend to pee breaks.
Ramesh returned to the lobby with his badge better mounted so as to flash out from behind his jacket as he walked. He found Murphy smoking a cigarette in defiance of the “No Smoking” sign posted in the lobby just above a well-used ashtray.
“Damn, this place has gone downhill. Cryptid Quarterly, Tinfoil Times, ReptilianWatch, Orgone Research Foundation – whatever the fuck that is. I remember when Thought! was the most crackpot thing here. Back when your fashion and lifestyle magazines were still here, before the wacko crowd started moving in.”
Ramesh’s curiosity was piqued. What the fuck was an Orgone? He pulled out his phone to look it up on the internet.
“Hey kid, I’m gonna go drop a deuce. You going to stay here or go back outside?”
“I’ll go back outside,” mumbled Ramesh without looking up from his phone.
“Okay.”
While Ramesh was lost in his research he became vaguely aware of someone else in the lobby. His eyes flicked up and he saw a man pushing a housekeeping cart towards the back of the lobby. Ramesh returned to his phone. Reich was a badass. Kicked out of the Communist party, books banned and burned by the Nazis, kicked out of the psychiatric association, then the whole Orgone thing. The FDA enforcement action against Reich sounded like the type of crusading work his boss did, but they’d never get a ruling that sweeping today.
“Yep, they sure put him through the spice grinder,” said a voice in Gujarati.
Ramesh started then looked around. The man pushing the maintenance cart was now facing him as he towed the cart through a door at the rear of the lobby; it was the shaman from the bad production number which had started this whole thing, now dressed in khaki slacks and mustard uniform polo embroidered with a sun logo. The shaman disappeared through the doorway, followed by the cart, and the door swung quickly shut and clanked.
Ramesh sprinted to the door. He worked the bar and charged the door only to have it open a few inches then stop, jammed by something. Ramesh looked through the opening and saw the landing of a stairway. The cleaning cart had been placed so as to impede his progress. He stuck his hand through the door and rotated the cart so it would allow the door open wider. He pushed the door open as far as it would go and slid sideways through the doorway to find himself at the top of a stairwell with cinderblock walls, concrete floors and stairs, and metal railings and trim. The stairwell was lit with dim yellow lights in metal cages. Ramesh headed down.
He reached a landing where the walls changed from cinderblock to dark gray stone blocks, black stone stair treads with noticeable wear at the centers replaced steel-edged concrete, and the railings became more ornamental and antique looking. On the landing floor was a camel scrotum leather pouch with a flap closure – a purse. His instincts, honed by countless hours of dungeon crawling games, kicked in and he scooped up the purse.
He trotted down the next flight of steps to a landing with a door. Ramesh grabbed the handle and gave it a turn – it was locked. Maybe the key was in the purse. He opened the flap and looked inside, he didn’t see anything. He shook, then palpated the scrotum but felt nothing inside. Finally he turned the purse upside down and tapped it out. A small cascade of sand, dust and fluff tumbled to the floor, but no key.
The only thing he could do was continue downwards. He descended to the next landing and turned the corner to see a tall, thin table made of carved rosewood atop which lay a silvery plastic tray containing a small lavender colored packet – a Twinings Darjeeling teabag. He opened the purse and dropped the packet inside.
After the next flight down he reached a large metal door without a handle or keyhole. The center of the door was dimpled outward. The area where one would expect the handle to be had been reinforced with plates to deny access to the slit between the door and its frame and to cover the area where the lock mechanism presumably was. There was a yellowed sign on the door – “Absolutely NO Thought! Magazine Interns Past This Point. -R Kestrel, ed.” The sign had been adorned with a penis graffito.
The purse and the teabag had obviously been left for him to find, and were somehow related to his getting through the door. The logical thing was to put the packet inside the purse, which he had already done. He opened the flap and peered inside. Nothing discernible had happened. He had no water and no heat source, hence no means of making tea. He removed the packet and tore it open and found that it contained the expected teabag. He dropped the teabag back into the purse and closed it and squeezed it. Again, nothing.
And then it dawned on him that he was being trolled to no lesser a degree than his boss had been. The teabag was a clue, not an artifact. He rubbed the purse on his forehead, first shyly, then more enthusiastically. He had, after all, gone to Woodberry Forest, and wasn’t one of the athletic or popular boys; he was no stranger to the feel of a scrotum on his forehead.
Suddenly he heard the vocalizations of a langur monkey and felt something stiff and bony moving around inside the purse. Ramesh shrieked and reflexively dropped the purse and stepped back. The purse hit the floor, lay still for a moment and began pulsating. The flap opened slowly, and a small furry hand emerged crawling on its fingers and pulling the stump of its lower arm behind. The monkey paw was mostly mummified, yet some fleshy parts remained and those were in a liminal state between putridity and mummification; two small jagged bones poked out of the stump. The paw picked up steam and swarmed up Ramesh’s leg and onto his shoulder finally hopping up onto his head where it started grooming his scalp with its nails.
Unbidden, a childhood memory rose up from the depths of his mind, and he blurted out a nursery rhyme he had been taught by Bhagavaandaas, the old man who lived in a lean-to built against the outside wall of his family’s compound in Gujarat. The old man had no discernable job, yet was respected by all. He sat outside his house all day and received visitors with whom he had long, quiet conversations and served tea. Once young Ramesh had learned that it was only okay to approach the old man between visitors he found that Bhagavaandaas was an endless source of tales.
Monkey Paw, Monkey Paw,
Be now my servant.
Monkey Paw Monkey Paw,
And me defend.
At that, the Paw did a little dance across Ramesh’s shoulder, then ran down his leg and over to the door. The Paw then turned around and ran back to lie down beside Ramesh’s foot. Its small hand formed into a fist and the Paw twitched then went limp.
The Paw was telling him he needed to knock on the door. Kind of obvious, but whatever. He picked up the Paw and the purse from the floor and dropped the Paw into into the purse. He heard the sound of a monkey shriek and the teabag and its wrapping came flying out of the purse and fluttered down to the floor. Apparently the Paw was particular about its lodgings. He looked down at the teabag and wrapper and tried to decide what, if anything, to do with them. The decision was made for him as they became first translucent, then transparent, then disappeared altogether. He approached the door and heard muffled voices coming from inside. Ramesh raised his hand and rapped twice with his knuckles. He waited, but nothing happened. He balled his hand into a fist and beat on the door four times, producing a loud booming which echoed through the stairwell. Still nothing.
Ah, he needed to use the Paw to knock on the door. Ramesh retrieved the Paw from the scrotum, and held it so as to knock on the door. The Paw was not cooperating – the wrist was limp and the hand was no longer formed into a fist. He waved the Paw at the door causing the nails to scritch on the door to the accompaniment of an angry series of monkey barks.
The Paw was totally being a bitch, but that was the nature of tulpas; they were not mere automatons like golems, but had agency. Ramesh had first heard the word “tulpa” during a Cultural Anthropology course at William and Mary, long after Bhagavaandaas was dead. The old man had given him a thorough education about tulpas and Ramesh had thought it was merely a bunch of rhymes and stories. He decided to wheedle the Paw.
Monkey Paw, Monkey Paw,
Open the Door,
Monkey Paw, Monkey Paw,
Give me good luck.
The Paw formed into a fist and thrashed five times, miming a fist knocking on a door, then paused, then thrashed twice more. Each thrash of the wee fist was followed by the sound of a hearty rap on the door. “Tap, tappa, tap-tap… tap-tap.”
The door opened and Ramesh found himself face to face with a Troll, a Troll like in The Hobbit. The Troll was doing a dope deal with a chunky young Korean dude.
“Oh shit, the cops,” shrieked the dude.
And at that moment Ramesh remembered that he was wearing a badge.
To be continued…
And this is the central thesis between The Origin of Glibs. Bravo and good Lord, I hope this series along with H&H one day get published as paperback/hardcover books.
“thesis of*”
Just as there the Old and New Testaments,
The Torah and the Talmud,
The Koran and the Hadiths,
So do do we have The Hat and Hair and The Glibbening.
There was a yellowed sign on the door – “Absolutely NO Thought! Magazine Interns Past This Point. -R Kestrel, ed.” The sign had been adorned with a penis graffito.
Oh, that’s good.
Well done, Tonio!
Nice!
Keep it up with the W&M digs.
I don’t want to know what kind of sewage infested your search history to find picture #5, but I approve.
Now hit that matriarchal fornication theme music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4smim2MNvF8
Still waiting on an SF, Tonio collaboration with CPRM providing animation.
I hope it wasn’t pulled from a family picture album…
When I found that illo, I immediately thought of you.
SugarFree’d!
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2013/04/my_friend_emily_fondles_camel_testicles_that_tell.html
I’m pleased that my reputation for lecherous perversion precedes me.
This is the image popular on the boards bitd.
https://i.postimg.cc/zfzyPnd8/balls.jpg
Now that’s theme music.
Good Zod…I think I will have to reread this a couple of times. Incredible.
There’s a lot to unpack there. I fear that blending SugarFree’s talents into this tale could elicit a psychotic episode.
“He shook, then palpated the scrotum but felt nothing inside.”
So, Obama’s scrotum?
Special 4 Tonio.
https://archive.li/7LAPE/87e055abddd0210d7eb49ff4f6ec639239e17b73.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6c/15/88/6c15889392288996446df30723d3554d.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/64/6b/7d/646b7d42906b0961cab751b4989f582a–muscle-hunks-muscle-men.jpg
And just in case:
https://archive.li/Rdusb/152736e2eaa8b052d65e7d0839a556d8b083b813.png
Not so much for me.
I’m game.
Gay.
CP: Just notice?
BP is responsible for the whiskey that just went through my nose.
Spud: some Pat Travers for ya
How did Jesse not come out of hibernation to see these?
I see what you did there…
He gave his disapproval of the lean, hairless one. I assume that meant he approved of the bears.
That was Tonio, way to mix up your gays, bigot!
lolshit
I forgot there were three of us.
Now you see how confusing it is for the rest of us.
THREE OF US! THREE OF US!
OK, I was tempted to do a Picard joke there, but….you know.
Now you’re just being ridiculous. No way there are four gays.
Way to leave the L and Bi behind…But, there is Soy Boy also, so yes at least 4 gay men, and whatever configuration. WE SIR, HAVE DIVERSITAY!
Wait….so, CPRM–you are saying there are FOUR GAY MEN!!
Nope, one straight celibate man, sorry if that lets you down. I do so gently.
I….it seems you DID say that very thing.
Also, why would I be let down? I’m no Browns fan….
See, I think it’s thoughtful that you’re looking out for everyone, not just those of us interested in T&A. Although I will say that I clicked on every single on just in case one of them happened to have a buxom, natural brunette dressed for a warm office.
MeToo
Awww, thanks Q.
The Hat and The Hair and The Monkey Paw. Praying these stories get woven together somehow.
So you’re a fan of psychotic episodes?
Watching safely from my PC? Sure.
As I mentioned above, I think the combo could cause one for the reader.
You gotta weed out the weaklings. Only the strong and bold may survive.
This. SF and CPRM bring the straight nausea and Tonio likes playing with his prey first. It’d be a fun combo.
Perhaps it was by the machinations of The Monkey Paw that The Hat and The Hair came to be.
“Monkey Paw machinations.”
*golf clap*
And finally for the gynophiles:
http://archive.li/pCR7v
Now I’m off before I get banned!
Your last list was better. You should be catbutted for not upholding up that standard.
C’mon folks. SF TWICE in one day and now this? This shit will start to seem Normal if we keep this up. Then what do we do?
Best of the Web? We got it right here people.
It’s wednesday. And there was ample notice given at the end of last week.
Uhhh, you think the Glibertariat has that sort of memory retention?
Actchually, yes.
Wait….I thought this was farmersonly.com
Farmers On Lybia would be the place for camel scrotum pics.
*Libya
As if you didn’t do that on purpose.
I know! That was a fun…what, John-ism?
I was thinking CamelRanchers.org.
OT – ignore if you have no interest in Euroball:
So I’m watching the New Jersey Red Bulls v Vancouver and I noticed that the Red Bulls have blocked off a huge part of their seating. I’ve been wondering for years why the Red Bulls struggle to pull in 15K or 20K when you’ve got the likes of Atlanta drawing 50K+ every week. I figure it’s some combination of new shine favoring Atlanta plus a resident population in NYC that favors south-of-the-border teams over local teams. Anyway, pretty embarrassing if you ask me.
And they have two teams in the NYC area? Why?
*shrug* It’s NYC, I can’t explain why they do anything down there.
The haplessly-run NYCFC’s attendance is actually better than Red Bulls’, if not by much.
I don’t think 2 teams in a metro region with more than 20M people is too many – under normal circumstances.
OK.
Wait…did you just tell me what to do?
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Mike, are trying to get the thumb to go through the OK sign, like Harry Potter here?
Or, are you trying to subtly subvert the racism inherent in the OK sign….? ‘Cause I see what you did there.
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Wait….did you just tell the story of HM???
Seriously-that made me belly laugh, Mike. Seriously.
So this is going around Twitter. Again, the best pro choice arguments are getting squashed by shit like this. Honestly, I’m on the fence, but damn if some of the pro choicers aren’t pushing me over.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7L2C2CXYAAchqc.jpg
Yea, I’ve gravitated into “undecided” territory in the past few years, partly as a result of people on this site who actually made reasoned arguments for why it may be wrong to perform abortions past a certain point (or to perform them at all) as well as seeing how idiotic some of the pro-abortion arguments are.
I used to be of the belief that until the baby is actually born, it’s just part of the woman’s body and she can do what she wants with it… Now I see that it’s really not that simple.
I took part in a half-hearted (for me) “clinic defense” back in college when Operation Rescue was targeting Buffalo for some reason. It was just expected that all right-thinkers had to be pro-choice.
Fast-forward almost three decades and my present thoughts are:
(1) abortion is wrong
(2) abortion has zero impact on me
(3) abortion will always be legal in certain areas assuming Federalism
As a result I mostly don’t talk about it in polite company.
I like to think of it more as Siamese Twins. But my thoughts get weird.
Heh. Following that through, you could argue for the baby to have the right to abort the mother.
I wonder how those people feel about child support. I mean, if you’ve got a parasite and choose not to get rid of it, and the father isn’t interested in being a part of the parasite’s life, why should he pay any money for its upkeep? Your body your choice, right? Well, your responsibility, then.
Actually “parasite” is a useful paradigm, because it recognizes the fetus is a distinct organism and not the women’s body.
The next part of the discussion is when the fetus goes from parasite to infant with human rights.
Doesn’t help that those chicks look like they came out of a cloning factory, no wonder they’re against naturally-born babies! heh
And yeah, there’s a lot of really terrible arguing. There was that group of tweets from a few days ago with morons arguing that abortion is just like killing sperm somehow, so we should make masturbation illegal and see how the menfolk feel! Erm, thanks for that, Party of Science. good grief. So much of it is ridiculous argumentation, tinged with a weird mania that I find really off-putting. I guess it’s because so many of them are simply programmed into the belief, and so they spew out whatever they’ve been told/heard, but some of it has shifted in the game of internet telephone and become incoherent.
Then we get to the Democrat messaging which is simply dishonestly sexist – painting it all as “men did this, men believe this, etc” which unfortunately plays very well to lib women who’ve probably never met a pro-life woman in their life.
See also: “If men got pregnant there’d be an abortion booth on every corner hurr durr”.
Yeah, this is the level of rhetoric these days.
I consider myself pro-choice if the alternative is a unilateral ban on abortion, but I am appalled at people who would refer to a fetus as a parasite. We don’t know when consciousness develops, and everyone seems to have a different metric for “personhood”, but to refer to your living offspring as a parasite is vile. I think that abortion is a serious, morally difficult decision to make, not a Plan B for when the condom broke and you couldn’t be assed to deal with the pill. A woman might be relieved by an abortion or ambivalent about an abortion, but the idea that you’d be happy about it–that you’d *celebrate* it, for Christ’s sake–is insane.
I started out moderately Pro-life, and as y’all have seen, have become staunchly Pro-life over the years. Mostly it was two things: a general movement away from pragmatism as a basis for my positions, and a better understanding of the growth cycle of the embryo/fetus.
The parasite thing strikes me as downright evil. Just because some people have been conditioned to hate their biological purpose doesn’t mean that the purpose doesn’t exist.
Could the argument be made that the people holding in the sign in that picture are also parasites?
SHUT THE FUCK UP WINST…oh wait, carry on…
Yes. And also kids with Down’s syndrome, drug addicts, homeless, criminals, etc. They are conflating definitions 2 and 3.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/parasite
It’s a really dangerous game and not one that I or (I think/hope) anyone else would like to play.
I’m not convinced that isn’t a Photoshop.
I should’ve linked the original tweet. Appears real, but you never know. Regardless, people have used the “parasite” thing before.
https://twitter.com/obianuju/status/1131237001385132033
People have used that line of argumentation here and on TOS. It’s out there.
The Clown World is getting to me, dude.
Hmm, so if you’re on welfare, you don’t have rights? OK. Let’s start with removing the right to vote.
Is that basically Walter Block’s argument, though?
You’re right. I remember his “evictionism” argument, but i forgot he used “parasite” and not just “trespasser”.
I refuse to look at the body in a viewing. Call it an occupational hazard, but when I see the body of the person I used to know and love, they just become another dead body.
So you follow Jewish customs concerning the dead, I see.
I’ve seen many dead bodies. They’re a hunk of meat and the spark of life that made them who they are is gone. As for the burying before the next sunset, not so much.
Tom Woods had a good rebuttal to that on one of his episodes where he discussed abortion. I’ll try to summarize it:
You have the right to decide who is allowed on/in your property, but there’s an exception if you have taken this person into your care and would cause them to die if you simply evicted them from your property right then and there. The example is if you took someone for a ride in your private jet, then decided you didn’t enjoy their company and pushed them out mid-flight. That would obviously not be permissible since they cannot leave your property without facing death, so it’s your duty to return them to safely disembark since you took them into your plane voluntarily.
Similarly, if a woman took an action that resulted in a fetus being formed inside of her body, she can’t simply remove it (causing its death) and justify it with body autonomy. She has every right to deliver that baby and then give it up for adoption, but she can’t kill it just because she doesn’t want it there anymore. Where is a fetus supposed to be if not there?
I’ve heard that, too. TBF to Walter, he makes a caveat: the baby must not be viable. Personally, skydiving babies would be a sight to see.
I’m of the idea that we should be working towards a ‘Right of Removal’. Getting the tech to transfer either to an artificial womb or another womb, and the whole abortion thing should sunset when we hit this point. But that doesn’t gin up animosity like abortion, so it won’t happen.
I am closer to thinking she has an obligation to do that.
Rape is obviously a complication, and I don’t have an answer there.
Apologies if I mangled your argument, Akira. I’m slightly drunk.
No commitment. This is why you’re unemployed. If you’re going to do something don’t half ass it!
I could get balls-to-the-wall drunk if that helps.
Is there any other kind?
Nah, you’re good, brah.
And you’re not the only one who’s slightly drunk 😉
Woot!
The jet example is obviously susceptible to the rape exception. Pregnancy and abortion are hard to nail down with analogy because it’s such a unique process.
The rape exception analogy is like somebody smuggles me aboard your private jet that has a special seat for smuggled people. I’m unconscious the whole time. You discover me while in midair and proceed to dump me out, knowing full well that I did not voluntarily board the plane.
Like I said, not the cleanest fit.
Oh, I forgot the part where you don’t know whether I’m unconscious or dead, but you know I’ll be alive when the plane lands short of some tragedy. That’s where the analogy gets really weird.
Is there snakes on this plane? I hate snakes.
Everything goes wrong for a convicted felon.
The 4 counts of witness tampering because he used the jailhouse phone to tell his gf not to cooperate with the police were like a little dollop of sweet cream on top of that story.
I always look for clues in these local stories as to WhereTF this is. I still can’t tell even what part of the country this might be and the link doesn’t give it away either.
The taint between Seattle and Spokane.
See, I was going to guess the South, maybe Florida, just based on the Injun-sounding names of all the localities I’ve never heard of.
If you had grown up in Boise, it’d all be familiar. 😉
I don’t actually know how long I lived there. I was born in Rochester, NY. There was a move to Boise, ID at some point (age 2?). By age 3, we were back in Rochester – minus a father. Discussion of this time wasn’t suppressed or anything – but it wasn’t encouraged either.
Yes, I hate it when local news websites make it hard to figure out which corner of the country we are talking about. In this case the town name is unusual, so it was easy to duckduckgo it.
From the sidebar,
https://www.wenatcheeworld.com/business/washington-first-state-to-legalize-human-composting/article_972f2a10-7cfb-11e9-8c89-af1bceb35d6f.html
Welcome to Motel Hell, try the sausage.
+1 step closer to SOYLENT GREEN
I just sent SF some new artwork, I’m torn between sharing it getting praise or letting it be a surprise for yall…
Surprises are good!!
Seconded. I want to feel the shock and awe.
Okay, but I’m not sure when he’ll use it.
The artwork of Damocles.
I will say this much, it uses other artwork I’ve either shared or used before with some I haven’t, but it comes together in such a glorious way…I’m very proud.
*Wipes single tear away*
Surprise?!? Awwww, man! :gottawaitforthegoodstufftoshow…::
Also: Howdy, everyone.
Ahoy-hoy!
That was fun, although, I was expecting something along these lines.
Howdy and oh yeah, I read your reply. Was it the one WRT to the pew pews? Or was it somethang else and I’m just subconciously memory-holing it?
Raphael, if that’s about my comment last night, I honestly don’t remember what it was, or, when. I’m new to weekend night-commenting, and my times here are kinda running together.
I just know that, when you said you just got back, I was thinking, “He can’t have been gone! I just saw a comment like…2, 3 days ago. I think…”
Haha, it’s all good. It doesn’t help I’m on the Japanistan Gaijintarian time so timey wimey stuff happens.
I kinda identify with that. In spirit.
Thanks for the Glibbening. It is a fascinating look at our history.
I’ve seen more than a few links here to articles about the human composting in Warshington State, but I don’t recall seeing anyone seriously give their opinion of it. Myself, I don’t have an issue with it. Is that the general consensus among the Glibs? Any religious objections?
I find it less creepy than embalming.
Waaa?
You don’t want to leave some evidence for Jack Horner to discover?
My issue is with public health. A human body isn’t exactly filled with the stuff you want to grow crops in. A grove of trees, or some flowers? Go for it. It’s a dead body. The person that inhabited it is long gone.
I haven’t looked at any of the links.
*duckduckgoes*
I don’t have any objection to it, even if I find the eco-justifications that most of its cheerleaders are proposing to be overwrought.
Any religious objections?
Not I. Sounds cheap and easy. The actual composting part isn’t my cup of tea. Bury me far away from the turnips please.
Eventually, we all end up in someone else’s mouth someday.
Pornhub confirms this.
The circle of life.
Educational evening for our 14yr olds…Fear and Loathing
The files are inside the
computerscrotum!All this talk about abortion and a woman’s obligation to the fetus makes me wonder, how should the law treat a man who gets a woman pregnant? Should he have a legal obligation to the woman and the baby or not?
As it is right now, the man can be saddled with financial responsibility, yet he has no choice in what happens to the child. Whether the woman decides to abort, adopt, or keep the kid, the man just has to accept it. He has no way of opting out of parenthood. I think there’s a contradiction there.
She has rights but no responsibilities; he has responsibilities but no rights.
It’s called not putting your dick in that thar hole. But the way you describe it I can see a film version of Roe V Wade ala Kramer Vs Kramer.
Oh Lord, checking to see if this was a thing, I found out Netflix weighed in. I don’t want to look, but I’m guessing it’s tied to Obama’s deal somehow.
Yes he should. And he should also have a say in what happens to the baby.
Second this.
Let’s say two people are married. They have routine sex. They get divorced, and the woman finds out that she’s pregnant. The man wants to be a father, the woman doesn’t want to bear his child. What happens then?
See my comment about working towards a right of removal over a right to terminate.
That would sort it, or at least go a hell of a long way towards sorting it for good.
Obviously, I’m not Spud, but I’ll answer. I believe she should have the kid and the father can take custody of the child and all the responsibility that comes with it. The child did absolutely nothing wrong in this situation and I don’t think the kid should have to pay for being in that situation. Now, if the mom changes her mind and wants joint custody and all that, she’s free to talk it out with former hubby at the divorce court/proceedings. I understand this is probably not the best answer, but it’s the best I can think of while keeping with my beliefs/principles.
All this being said, I hope for the day that artificial wombs and right to removal come to fruition.
^What Raphael said
Can confirm
How do you both parties equally under the law when biology insists one side bear the physical burden?
Exactly. The guy gets his essence taken, and then has to pay? Insanity.
So, on the one hand I have a fundamental problem with a woman being forced to carry a baby to term against her will. She is, after all, the one with nine or more months of actually being pregnant, giving birth, etc. On the other hand, that child is as much his as hers, and once the child’s born he is responsible for its care until it’s an adult. As you say, the father can’t opt out of parenthood, but neither can he opt the mother in, as the law stands in most places.
I don’t have a good answer. I don’t even have a bad answer. Ultimately, like CPRM says, the surest way to avoid the situation is to not have reproductive sex outside of a committed relationship. Or, if you’re in a committed relationship, use all the contraception at your disposal and still be prepared for all of it to fail.
You and CPRM make a valid point and honestly, I believe that is also the safest and proper way to handle the situation. Don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing.
I think this is why most societies came up with social rules that governed sexual conduct. Since the “sexual revolution”, the popular view has been that these rules are just silly superstitions made up by old stodgy religious guys to ruin everyone’s fun. That may have been part of it, and those rules did go too far in most cases. But I think there’s an underlying truth in those rules – the truth that sex is an urge like any other, and it requires moderation and judgement.
Naturally, I don’t favor any government regulation of sexual conduct. But I do believe that with messy ethical conflicts like these, we are rediscovering the ancient rationale behind some of those societal norms.
Those traditions are still really useful I think, even if the reasons they started aren’t necessarily as relevant. But I think one of the problems is that the terms of the debate can’t even be set. If everyone believed life began at conception, then it’s easy. If everyone believed that pregnancy was a medical condition and a baby wasn’t a baby until it came out of the womb and took its first breath, then it’s easy. But we can’t even all agree on when a fetus is a baby is a person. Everything else is almost moot until you can come to some sort of functional agreement on that topic, because wherever you draw the line some people will believe you’re committing murder and some people will believe that you’re controlling a woman’s body against her will for no good reason.
I’m fortunate to be in a marriage where we both agree that we want children–at least one more–and we both more or less agree on the conditions under which we both think a pregnancy should be terminated in our case.
All of the uber liberal women in my office building are getting the vapors over this. I don’t have the heart to tell the main complainer that, honey, don’t worry, you don’t gotta worry about being in that position.
I really want to ask them if they’re out protesting the sentences of people who killed pregnant women who got a +1 for the fetus/unborn child/clump of cells/whatever. But I roll my eyes silently and go back to work.
Good call. It’s amazing to me how many women I see in abortion rally pics and think “Yeah, why are you so upset about this? It’ll never apply to you in any way.” #Trigglypuff
Per Web MD about Plan B
You can get it at Wal Mart for $12, no prescription needed. Why is this still a thing we are talking about in CURRENT YEAR!?
Because users can’t force someone else to pay for it. Yet.
Also, you don’t always know right away if one slips past the goalie, so to speak. So situations arise where it’s way to late to use Plan B.
If you had sex, pop it like an advil after a night of drinking.
Unprotected or broken condom…I would say absolutely. Popping it like candy after every dick you get might be a problem
If that’s the life you live, take the precautions. If there was a pill that made men sterile for 72hrs do you think abortions would still be a big thing?
What if you’re drinking alone?
Then you’re doing it right! It’s the hook that brings you back.
Srsly, Youtube? Couldn’t add Runaround to the side links? Jerks.
Hell, I wish Advil was 95% effective against hangovers.
I haven’t had a hangover in over a decade, so I wouldn’t know. (not that I don’t do the drinking, just that I’m evolution personified, an Ubermench when it comes to drinking)
Way to flaunt your sconnie privilege.
…..Is…Is that a thing? Like, a real thing?
I think it is, Chipotle and Taco Bell don’t give me the shits, I can drink every night and no get a hangover, sounds like privilege to me.
::kneels::
My Liege!!
/yes, that’s the part that got me.
My sister’s favorite restaraunt is a local Mexican place, and every time she she gets the shits. She can’t put two and two together. Me, never had a problem with that. UberSconnie! New Cartoon coming this fall to Glibs TV!
Uhh…well, I guess I know an interesting factoid about your sister now. And, you.
Cheers?
Also, would probably watch UberSconnie.
It’s 14hrs of eating and drinking beer with sparse dialogue. Very evocative. Esoteric even.
I mostly kid. Advil is actually my go-to, and it mostly works – when I remember it.
So, the new cartoon has been submitted, it’s up to the overlords as to when it comes out. I apologize for it being this late in the month, I had el Once De Mayo, Mother’s Day, work and finding a new car all circling around, as well as it finally being warm enough to be outside caring for my estate.
My young sons use my youtube and always laugh when it comes to your animations and commentary. They like it.
You sir are a bad parent. Give me money.
Sometimes, I think I might actually have long lost family in Wisconsin.
Using your wench, er winch, out in the woods
https://youtu.be/G11G6L1B_o4
I’ve never seen a video that got coverage shots use them so poorly, that is an achievement. She is kind of cute though.
It’s the Canada.
If you can fap to that you are more of a man than me.
Sounds like my kinda challenge!
Um… yeah. Don’t tell me how it turns out.
You sure? We have a pretty tight-knit night crew here, and….
Well, have it your way.
Justice is served.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/05/22/middle-school-teacher-antifa-activist-ordered-to-pay-judicial-watch-22000-in-legal-fees/
Heh, referencing some things said here tonight, that pic Straff shared was under the article with this ”
Please let this pro-choice protest sign calling the unborn ‘parasites’ be a Photoshop”
Her name always reminds me of some type of puking sound. And, that’s before we get to her face.
She’s the type of person who will, eventually, fuck with the wrong person and die in a quite painful way.
She does seem like a typical bully. She will be shocked when someone punches (or shoots) back.
This must be Q’s idea.
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/05/22/israelis-crowd-control-topless-women/
I object, but I may be in the minority here…
May=definitely
https://archive.li/FhgJi/c8f9bd8bd5e20d54460ed811a8174beb680334a8.jpg
That would really scare them away.
http://www.alrincon.com/imagenesblog/mike-dowson/kristina/10.jpg
NSFW.
https://archive.li/c5DXt/f3c4096a4ae2a190edfd40dce6d8f5df79e31861.JPG
NSFW.
Yes, please.
dog bless America. Where else can you grow up to create a website called “18andbusty.com.”
Thailand? Of course, you roll the dice on that one.
I would hope for a Nordic country to step up, too. With a smattering of Celt…
https://archive.li/I7qeC/6f87eba48c0a5bb657ce4df1357e26fba7ba8c75.jpg
NSFW.
I’ll be in my bunk.
You’re rolling.
That top seems impractical.
Well, she should definitely get rid of it. Immediately.
You didn’t say that about the young stud’s speedo.
Yeah well he wasn’t letting half the goods peek out from his speedo.
Don’t be jealous of the other team.
Any glibs wanna put their $.02 on this flag controversy?
I can’t stand petty ordinances, and I’m prone to thinking this is just a way to add some cash to the town coffers (when is it not?). However, is it possible to have flags/banners that are big enough to cause some kind of problem?
I, personally, do not fly a US flag on my flag pole, because I have too much respect for it and know I would not give it proper care, but your property your business.
It is possible but we don’t have enough information from the story to know. Content neutral time, place, and manner restrictions are permissible. That may be the case here. But why they imposed them is unclear.
But, not necessarily right, ya know. I mean, if it represents a danger of some kind, I can kinda see. Seems this could be handled between private parties in a civil trial, if there was some kind of loss. It would also seem that the guy has plenty of support–at least, from non-elected officials.
I agree. This sounds fishy unless the flag is somehow a danger to drivers on the interstate.
In this case, tt’s not about the flag, it’s about something “weird” supposedly detracting from property values. So yea, it’s about money – just not in the usual way.
Hmm….that checks out. Of course, some people suck.
Always follow the money.
I missed that if it was in the article. If that’s what’s going on then the town may have a problem.
Clinton Foundation lite.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/rep-elijah-cummings-denies-that-wifes-charity-poses-conflict-of-interest-tax-violation
Population decline.
http://oppaisan.com/img/entry_images/20190510_1/105.gif
I like those two. Can you introduce me?
“You’re Chafed? Wow, me too.”
I do like that smile there at the beginning
After 20 years living the US I finally realized why Americans keep a wallet in a back pocket: there’s a handgun in a front pocket.
A long road trip 20 years ago disabused me of that habit very quickly.
For too many years I carried a big wallet in my back pocket. It wasn’t uncomfortable at first, but eventually it was. I switched to a slim wallet like this https://smile.amazon.com/Hammer-Anvil-Blocking-Minimalist-Genuine/dp/B072MPFCR8
OMFG, what a difference.
I switched the wallet to the front pocket a few years back. Much more comfortable. Oh, and the handgun goes at 8:30 inside the waistband.
Lefty?
My son has always carried his wallet in front. He seldom carries; I always do 5:00
Well…looks like everyone decided to now be ‘responsible’ and go to bed. Or, work.
::pfffft:: Candy-asses.
It’s been a rough hump day/Thursday for all of us.
Has it?
Wait…you sayin’ there was a lot of humpin’ going on?
I wish, my friend. I wish.
Heheheheheheh….he said ‘rough hump’.
You seem like you’re worn out–just after a vacation, to boot.
Just a bunch going on right now, but it’ll all work out. Being one of them yutes has its perks. Thanks though, hope things are going smoothly for you.
Oh, yeah. Other than a wife with whiplash, it’s smooth sailing.
I have been lacking in my late reading of submissions and am glad to see Tonio is holding strong to the camel scrotum theme he introduced in the early days. Superb! And obviously from a sick mind. Superb!