STEVE SMITH KEEP SABBATH.
STEVE SMITH GIVE PREVIEW! HIM WANT HELP. SP SAY “STEVE, I AM BUSY RIGHT NOW, WHY DON’T YOU GO DO THE WEEKLY PREVIEW AND OPEN POST?” OMWC BUSY TOO. CHEESE PERSON NOT AROUND. SO THIS STEVE SMITH CHANCE! STEVE SMITH AGREE. HIM NO WANT SP DELETE STEVE SMITH ACCOUNT. STEVE SMITH VERY NICE SP! AND WONDER DOG. EVEN IF WONDER DOG BARK AT STEVE SMITH. A LOT OF BARK.
HERE WEEK:
MONDAY – FUNNY ANIMAL TELL STORY OF GROW UP AND HOME. SP ASK QUESTION – YOU ANSWER!
TUESDAY – OZMANDYIAS TELL MORE ANTHRAX. STEVE SMITH NO LIKE ANTHRAX. TASTE FUNNY.
WEDNESDAY – STEVE SMITH HIDE IN BACK OF CAVE…BUT HIM STILL READ HAT AND HAIR. MAKE STEVE SMITH NOT SLEEP.
THURSDAY – WANT SEE SNP! WEBDOM HAVE PRODUCT FOR YOU.
FRIDAY – CRYPTID NIGHT!
WEEKEND HAVE FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN POST, OMWC, NOT ADAHN, MEXICAN STEVE SMITH THWARTER, CHEESE PERSON, SPUDALICIOUS. STEVE SMITH LIKE WEEKEND.
WEEKEDAY LINK HAVE CHEESE PERSON, BANJOS …MAYBE, DONBRETTFLORIDAMAN, OMWC, OTHERS?
FUNNY GLIBERTARIAN PEOPLE NEED SEND IN STORIES. STEVE SMITH LIKE READ.
STEVE SMITH RAPE SUNDAY LINKS!
STEVE SMITH HIDE IN BACK OF CAVE…BUT HIM STILL READ HAT AND HAIR. MAKE STEVE SMITH NOT SLEEP.
The Hat and Hair doesn’t screw up my sleep.
WANT SEE SNP!
Oh yeah!
Or else what?
ELSE YOU DISAPPOINT SP.
THAT MAKE STEVE SMITH UNHAPPY.
I don’t know which one of those terrifies me more.
Both. Being raped by STEVE SMITH, while SP goes to work on you with her rusty can lid collection.
SP IS STEVE PSMITH?
IF YOU NO ANSWER STEVE SMITH ANSWER AND IF YOU ANSWER STEVE SMITH ANSWER ANYWAY AND BY ANSWER I MEAN RAPE
I’m just gonna leave this here.
Fucking Awesome
That’s badassed. Check this out!
Needz moar bongo!!!
If you got 7:30 to kill you need this.
Flash dont play when he mixes.
One of my favorites. Great drum solo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT1FHNrmPj8
I remember people giving me shit for liking Dave Brubeck.
OMWC will be all over you.
I’m pretty sure I’m too old for him.
And when he does, tell him Mingus sucked and Ian Anderson plays a better flute than Rolaand Kirk did.
He’s an artist, a pioneer.
But also a nerdy white guy.
+Take 5
Hikock45 shoots the Martini-Henry.
And a M60.
+1 headspace & timing
At least he pulls the charging underhanded with thumb on the outside.
Hickok and Gun Jesus both need to learn to hold it properly when using the bipod or tripod. You do not use the foregrip. You do not cradle it like a precision rifle. Left hand holds the neck of the buttstock on the top and pull it into your shoulder. Optional to use the flip up shoulder rest.
https://youtu.be/neDSAMQLzvE
Thanks for link
Everyone knows this is how you shoot a machine gun.
Few people know the origins of the M-60.
It was the mash-up of the FG-42 with the belt-feed mechanism of the MG-42 (both German weapons) and scaled down to 7.62X51mm NATO. The first prototypes were still in 7.92X57mm. Two of the best small arms ever fielded and put together into a really good GPMG. The only real downfall was decades of marginal maintenance that most of them got which resulted in a bad reputation.
It did have its problems but put together right and well-maintained and it was damn good. Much lighter and shorter than the M-240 which replaced it.
M-60 was a great weapon but was called “the pig” for a reason. If I remember correctly it weighs 29 lbs.
My first platoon sergeant had been a M-60 gunner in Vietnam. The things he could do with that weapon were outstanding. The Bn Cdr watched him at a range one day and put him in charge of teaching all the battalion’s MG’ers.
But ALWAYS pull the bolt to the rear before closing the feed tray. If you are storing it you then pull the trigger and ride the bolt forward.
The M-60 weighed about 23 lbs. Most M-240 variants are around 25 to 27 lbs – only the Lima version with titanium parts weighs about the same as the M-60.
My HS cinematography teacher ran an M-60 in Vietnam (according to him). He also talked about skinning a “rock ape” while in the field…
When he mentioned that, I had no idea what he was referring to–I thought it was just some kind of Asian monkey/simian. But, I asked him what it was like (thinking that eating a monkey had to have been awful), and he said, “Like skinning a person”. Very odd.
I have no idea what my story had to do with this discussion…
Pooh, excellent. I’ll have to get on that when I can pop in my headphones. It’s a beautiful old piece.
Ooh, not pooh. I am happy for this video. Fuggin autocorrect strikes again.
I’m cleaning up all these boxes. Some I haven’t opened since the last time I moved. Most of it is old bills, receipts, bank statements, etc. I’m just going to throw out. Same with a bunch of old newspapers and magazines. I’m also taking a weird trip down memory lane — phone numbers, love letters, flyers and ticket stubs for shows and parties, documents from court cases, financial records from political campaigns, a copy of my first newspaper article, libertarian party swag, mountains of drug policy and immigration stuff, tax documents for jobs I forgot I had, thank you notes, rejection letters, more phone numbers of people I forgot I knew, etc.
I have a bunch of those boxes, some of which have actually been through two moves without being opened. Probably a sign that I should just pitch them.
Depends what they are, I’m surprised by what I’m finding. Remembering all these things I forgot I did. How much we relied on phones and regular mail before the internet. I found letters from Ron Paul, Jello Biafra, Lung Leg, and Bob Moog, in the same box. What the hell was I doing? I worked for the Drug Policy Foundation? I managed bands that I completely forgot?
I have a bunch of that stuff. I unpacked it so it could collect dust in a bookcase somewhere.
I have a box of memorabilia that I’m saving for my kids. Their old report cards, old hunting licenses, etc. This past year I gave my grandchildren (all in their 20s) my parents wedding picture, circa 1922 and my grandparents studio picture with their first born, 1903, so their great great grand parents. I’m trying to give them some sort of identity with their past. I made a dvd for each with all the old family pictures I had, which wasn’t many after my brother carelessly lost all our parents’ pictures that he’d been entrusted with.
I’m really not sure how the younger generations have interest in their heritage but I’m trying to preserve a little for them. With families spread out across the land and ocean cousins/aunts/uncles are not always in the family. My kids/grandkids have little to no interaction with their cousins. Sad
Roots. Not just for Kunta Kente.
They’re also important for crops.
My grandmother on my dad’s side kept suitcases and boxes full of that stuff. When her last husband died and my dad was cleaning out the house, he found that stuff. He showed us some of it.
His old report cards showed he was not a very good student.
Sad!
/sorry-couldn’t help it.
Some of it is memorabilia. Much of it is evidence of various communications — technical, business, personal. For example, I found this $500 phone bill. From looking at the long distance calls I can tell it was from trying to get an album signed. I can remember it was someone from an old punk rick band playing guitar with a newer band, I have images of him in my mind, but I can’t remember his name. Another example is that I completely forgot I worked as an editor for the Libertarian Party, because for a long time in my life after that I almost completely ignored politics.
shots fired
Orphans will also be needed to clean said pants.
Normal people: How about everybody STFU and go about their business?
IOW, Rhywun hates the children and wants them all to die.
They aren’t even beating a dead horse at this point. There are no discussions on the subject that haven’t been had over the last 150 years. How about we shut up about it and move on? Just a thought.
Suthen also hates the children and wants them all to die. Specifically poor colored children. He just said as much.
NYT Reporter: Slavery may be gone but the impact of white supremacy on POC hasn’t changed since 1612.
I guess we won’t know til it actually happens, but given the NYT openly stated “anti-racism and Trump=racist” narrative, and the original tweet from Mara Gay advertising the project said something like “everything good in America came from slavery” I think he’s being disingenuous about people doubting the project will be just some sort of neutral ‘discussion about the impact of slavery’. I mean, sure, it could be, but what are the odds?
Mendacity right out of the gate. This isn’t about a serious sociological or political discussion, it is about sewing discord. They should be ignored.
+1 national conversation on gun violence
Here’s a thought. Slavery was unarguably a part of the history of the United States. But we also have 100 years of history since. If we are going to talk about the “evolution” of the country, why is it that only the first 89 years count, but the latter 2/3d’s of the history don’t matter?
We got rid of slavery 150 years ago and every day since the Democrats have been fighting tooth and nail to bring it back. Let’s discuss that.
Racist. /end of argument
How about we accept the fact that people that one person being oppressed doesn’t mean that a total stranger was “privileged” It’s evil to hold someone accountable for the actions of another. It’s a stupid game that will win society stupid prizes.
“that people”. Don’t no one need that in that sentence.
Here’s another thought. What if the biggest impact of slavery in US history was its role in the Civil War*, and therefore the most significant thing slavery did was split the country apart, to be reunified only at tremendous cost in blood and treasure, leaving it far worse off than it would have been had slavery never happened here? Which is to say, what if the answer is that all Americans are worse off as a result of slavery even to this day, meaning that discussions about things like reparations are based on a flawed premise, namely that anyone actually benefited from slavery?
*The most accurate and inoffensive title for the war is probably The War Between the States. It was not a civil war according to the definition. Contemporaries who referred to it as such likely meant “civil” in the sense that it was a war fought by a common people against itself, i.e. both sides were Americans and erstwhile countrymen.
On the other hand, if it wasn’t for slavery in the New World entire ethnic groups and a massive amount of culture — music, art, food, religion, etc. wouldn’t exist.
“The War for Southern Independence” is better yet.
Yeah, I think that’s probably the best combo of accuracy and neutrality.
how can she red flag him if he doesn’t even have a gun ?
And now, he can never own one. America, made safer one snitch at a time.
She must be a pre-cog.
W.C. Gogswell would like a word.
She’s just getting herself warmed up for the coming red flag marathon.
No, he was pretty explicit. He looks like a problem alright. This is how it will start: The genuinely bad cases get caught first and that legitimizes red flag laws in the public’s mind. Then all bets are off, they will try to get everyone who has ever had a background check on the list. See: Sex Offender Registry. That was supposed to be for pedophiles and forcible rapists and at first it was. Now it is anyone who has ever taken a drunken piss in a dark alley.
* looks side to side and decides to wait twenty minutes *
And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak up for me.
I am not in favor of red flag laws, quite the contrary. In this case a guy admits he is fascinated with mass shooting and then explicitly said on record and to the cops he wants to kill 100 people. That sounds like a pretty serious threat to me. Looking at his age and behavior I am thinking onset of schizophrenia.
We are in a catch 22 here. I ….uh….lemme go back and read the whole thing.
Oh, I already did. Apparently FL has made it illegal to threaten to commit a mass shooting and that is what he was arrested under. Not a red flag law. So maybe not in a corner, we can argue that making credible threats is a crime (it is just about everywhere already) so we don’t need red flag laws.
In more than a few of the mass shooting cases the shooters were. able to pull it off because law enforcement dropped the ball in a big way. More laws wont help.
“so we don’t need red flag laws.”
No, but we do. Because you still have guns.
Not a red flag law
Right. I just tagged it frivolously. I see all that the same: wrong think. Until you take a threatening step, I can’t count it as assault.
The snowflakes see it as the same as well: any excuse to know better than you what you’re thinking and whether you should be incarcerated or retain your natural rights.
It may be that I am so accustomed to the notion of explicit threats being a crime, i.e. threats against govt officials, estranged spouses, etc that I don’t have a strong objection to looking into a guy who made the threat…in writing…that I didn’t question it hard enough. I will think about it and get back later.
not the legal definition, but it should be:
assault is when, when someone later complains about what happened to them, you immediately ask why they didn’t shoot the assailant
You couldn’t even manage some heavy breathing, Hyp? Or, was this the, uh…’face time’ you mentioned yesterday?
I think in this instance it was just a dude trying shock value to try and get his ex to re engage with him .
I thought a lot about this today. Someone calls in a Red Flag report. All the gov HP descends on some person, smash through the door, rip the house/car apart looking for a non- existent gun. Haul his/her ass off to jail/psychiatric exam/loses the $15 per hour job, etc. Total destruction of a person’s life. At that point maybe there might be some interest in a gun, just because…
One thing is for sure: this will do absolutely nothing to stop someone who really wants a gun from getting a gun.
Really, it’s just a misdirection allowing people to comfort themselves without having to answer uncomfortable questions.
My concern with red flag laws is that by definition it sidesteps due process. It’s almost as bad as an IRS audit. Imagine two twenty-somethings have a few too many, maybe are having some relationship issues to begin with, and then get into an argument. Dude says to girlfriend/wife (because, let’s be honest, the number of women who will be red flagged in 100 years will fit in my bathroom), “I effin’ hate you so much, I want to effing kill you, GTFO!” Girlfriend/wife calls it in, police go to a judge, judge signs an order, and the next morning, homeboy wakes up on the couch with a hangover to the door being kicked in by a bunch of armed cops.
Here’s another example, this one from Maryland last year, not twenty minutes from where I live: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/bs-md-aa-shooting-20181105-story.html The short version is a guy had a red flag called in on him by one of his sisters (he was 61 so presumably she’s in the same age range) allegedly because of a family argument. Importantly, there’s no way to determine if this was based on a specific threat because the order is sealed until the court unseals it, so it could be that he made a specific threat, or it could be that he was just belligerent in general, or it could be that the aunt made everything up, because the hearings are held without the subject being notified. Anyway, guy opens the door with a pistol (the area they’re talking about isn’t great, so that’s not necessarily a bad idea), the police announce themselves, he puts the pistol down, the police tell him there’s an order and they’re going to come in and seize his guns, he picks his pistol back up and refuses to give it to them, there’s a tussle, gun goes off, cops shoot him dead.
On a lighter note, in junior high 2 girls called the city to report the death of one of the teachers they didn’t like. Meat wagon came out to the teacher’s house and great hilarity ensued, I’m sure. One of the girls was a good friend and told me the story and we laughed, of course.
That’s a good one.
Speaking of things that wouldn’t get you arrested back when people could take a joke, when I was in high school (class of ’96) during mid-terms but especially during finals people used to call in so many fake bomb threats that some teachers would just wait after the period started until the call came through over the speakers to go wait in the parking lot for the authorities to arrive. Which at this point would be one guy from the local fire department who’d just kinda go say hello to the principal while we stood around and smoked cigarettes surreptitiously. Then we’d file back in and they’d hand the tests out.
I remember, ah, some friends, sending in dozens of magazine subscription orders for a particularly noxious teacher. Just checked off “bill me.” I, I mean my friends, never did hear what happened but teacher mellowed somewhat after that.
I share your concerns about red flag laws and due process. I am firmly against the idea. They did charge him with making a specific kind of credible threat. He will get due process and can argue the threat was not credible, which is entirely possible. I have less of a problem with the cops stepping. in if there is serious concern and a crime has been committed albeit a minor one. Charge him with what he actually did. Another big problem with the proposed red flag laws is that they are vague as hell.
Exactly. Making a specific, credible threat is itself a crime and is actionable. Red flag laws have thus far failed to have any meaningful impact on firearm-related assaults or homicides, so they don’t even have the dubious value of being effective. And what happens when the person making the call is vague about how many firearms you have and where they’re stored? Well, now police search your home without a warrant looking for guns. What happens when they find an “assault weapon” that you inherited and is grandfathered in? Or the joint your kid bought in the high school cafeteria and stuck in his sock drawer? Shit, let’s say they have a specific list and they get those guns without tossing your entire house, then the time elapses with no evidence of planned malfeasance and they hand your guns back. Am I supposed to believe that they aren’t now keeping a list of serial numbers in a database next to my name, SSN, and place of residence?
“…then the time elapses with no evidence of planned malfeasance and they hand your guns back…”
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Even if they didn’t find anything (can’t imagine why they wouldn’t make something up) I can see how they would be too scared to hand your guns back imagining how it would look (for their responsibility in the matter) if you then did do anything negative with them later. Given the way the world works (it doesn’t) these days I can imagine that 95% of the time you won’t see those guns again and you won’t get approval on any legal firearms purchases either.
Oh, for sure. Once those guns are in police custody, it’s, “We’d be happy to return your guns. Give us a list of the serial numbers and some verification of ownership and we’ll have them back to you as soon as reasonably possible.”
I know there’s probably not reliable data on this, but anecdotally I have heard (on practically every gun forum) that if the cops take your guns as evidence, you just never get them back. I don’t imagine it would be any different if the guns were taken as part of a “red flag” procedure.
What worries me the most is the ease with which these “red flag” calls can be faked. The cops could easily just go outside and call from a payphone claiming to be a relative of someone and claim that they have been talking about killing people lately. I know that Lefties would call that a nutcase conspiracy theory, but I would encourage them to look into the cases of cops planting drugs on suspects or fudging evidence from state crime labs.
When a right can be revoked indefinitely based on an unsubstantiated claim, it’s no longer a right.
Fft. The left is going to become best buds with the cops once they realize how to use them to their advantage.
I’ve heard the same, including from my FIL who was a sheriff for a little while and then worked with the FBI on a joint task force type of thing. He has a nice collection of guns, including some mid- to high-end pistols, and then he’s got a .380 Hi-Point semi-auto on top of his gun cabinet in the living room. When I asked him about it he said, basically, “That’s for if I actually have to use a gun. I don’t want the police walkin’ off with a $1500 Kimber I’ll never see again.”
The problem is it’s just the cops (or whoever, depending on the state) and a judge, and the judge decides whether to sign off on it or not. It’s similar to a warrant, but with more leeway because the standards are so vague. So whether or not your own personal hell with the legal system begins or not depends on whether a judge doing the late-night at a district court is having a bad day or just doesn’t like “gun nuts”.
Whatever happened to that gun grabbers that went into Walmart to buy a gun and publicly stated it was to kill people with? How about him?
Try walking up to a bank teller and pointing a finger gun at them and laughingly say “stick em up! *laugh, smile* nah, I am just kidding!” and see what happens next.
Determining if a threat is serious, credible, a joke, or just blowing off steam is pretty tough. As Don says above you are trying to determine what someone’s thoughts are at the time which is impossible. Now let’s flip it around. In cases of self defense the law says that the person must believe their life is in danger. It says nothing about the intent of the person presenting the threat.
I think these threat laws are on that same level. You shouldn’t threaten people even in jest unless it is so over the top that no one would seriously believe it (feet first into a woodchipper on the courthouse steps).
These proposed red flag laws are so bad I think they must be a joke. If they pass they wont stand the first use of them. No due process? No representation at the hearing? They are Title IX investigation level bad.
“I was just doing it to raise awareness about bank security!” wouldn’t fly anywhere else.
“If” they pass? That’s been the law in Maryland for a year now. There are a number of states that already have them. You know the first to pass one? Connecticut, in 1999. Let that one simmer for a sec. You can’t make this shit up. The very definition of the kind of situation this sort of thing is intended to prevent happened 13 years after the law was passed. So let’s just do it in other states, because it’ll probably work better there for some reason.
blonde safe in AR
because she stayed out of Wynn and wasn’t panhandling for her football team ?
“Madison Elizabeth Yancy Eddlemon”
“Alexander Martin Curry-Fishtorn”
What even in the fuck?
I feel name deficient. Is 4 names the new standard?
My dad only has two. *sad trombone*
just so long as his middle name isn’t NULL
No, that was a license plate. It’s little Bobby Drop Tables you need to watch out for.
“Field too long.”
If you don’t have a middle name it defaults to Wayne for a Dude and Jo for a Chick.
Upper-class twits of the year…?
I love you .
Be glad they aren’t one of those Islamic Emirs with 100 descriptors in their name.
Suthen blessed in the trees Boy
You forgot ‘protector of the oaks, defender of the pines, destroyer of the weeds, provider of the sacred cellulose, shorer of the blessed creek banks’
I don’t know…if you have a hyphenated name you’re too rich to commit crimes like this. Maybe the 16-year-old with the Affliction hoodie is the one that’s at fault.
I’ve been (sort of) watching the Sharknado marathon today.
I’m more entertained by the amount of cameos and goofy references than I expected.
Are you excited for the upcoming Zombie Tidal Wave?
Surprisingly, no.
Zombieland 2? Hell yeah.
Fair enough, I’m about the same. It’s been way too long and I want muh Zombieland 2
My wife is.
Ha. It’s playing at the local watering hole. No idea they made six! of them. Surprisingly entertaining.
maybe your girlfriend already bought you this !
Marshall head sold separately
Wow
Good lineup again this week. We’re leaving for a couple days at a ryokan. I suppose I could click some pics and give a tour of what Tokyo people do to unwind. Haven’t finished the crossword yet, but will gitter done when I get back.
I already saw it on an episode of Anthony Bourdain. Drink and eat until you fall down?
Good point. Getting fall down drunk is not in my DNA. I pass out standing up on the train. It’s a skill worth honing.
It’s in mine. Which is why I tend to avoid it. Also, the wife gets mad at me when I do that.
Excellent, have fun at the ryokan. Also YES please do, i have crossword puzzle hype.
Thanks, Raph. You were one of the few to actually get my hints in the last one. Thumbs up.
Yes please. Not a crossword person but enjoyed it. And laughed at the answers that I did and didn’t get.
Oh shit, I missed it? Where can it be found?
Linked it in the comments last week. Can’t search for it now.
I’m a happily married man!
Wrong fuckin song, dagnabbit!
Not this?
Imma go with mine. Although, I will acknowledge yours as being far more Ted S. than it.
SOMETHiNG WiCKËD
@som3thingwicked
“Today we salute YOU… Mrs Social Justice Warrior ???”
https://twitter.com/som3thingwicked/status/1163200766498287616?s=20
Exactly what Tulpa would post.
Sheesh go a week or two without posting and I’m back to just being another Tulpa 🙁
You were always Tulpa.
Yes, this. Once Tulpa, always Tulpa.
I’m Poppy.
So you don’t wash your hands after you wipe your ass?
LOL
Love the Trump voice. Funny stuff.
Lol. That’s awesome:)
That was fun.
Bitcoin, gateway to terrorism
The Treasury Department, under Mr. Mnuchin, has been promoting international rules that would require cryptocurrency exchanges to do a full identity check on anyone sending digital tokens out of a wallet.
“Students at @ufindlay college of pharmacy have developed a chemical compound that kills gliobastoma (brain cancer) cells.
They have also refined it to ignore healthy brain tissue and focus on the cancer cells.”
https://twitter.com/JonWTOL/status/1162088193786875904
Lots of tin foil hat comments.
If it really works, the FDA will approve it in about 30 years. And by 30 years, I mean never, Die bitches.
The study was done In Vitro, call me in it works In Vivo.
Obligatory, if you’re me.
Your gayness is confirmed.
See, that’s funny, cuz I’ve never known another gay Wire fan.
They’re English. And were artists. Oh, fuck me.
I’m just an unfrozen, caveman lawyer. English + Artists = Homosexual. It’s just math.
https://twitter.com/BrotherNature/status/1162791684490629121
I have a feeling this is going to end badly.
Yeah…that’s not a good idea.
I thought that gators were so aggressive because they have all those teeth and no tooth brush?
I’ll take it, as long as it’s no money down!
That sounds a hell of a lot like Bad to the Bone by George Thorogood. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
Predates it by at least ten years.
Sort of what I was saying.
That’s cool. Duane kyped it from the early blues men hisself. It’s kinda timeless.
George made it work for the mid eighties. Good on him.
My personal favorite from Duane’s Anthology album. . You’re welcome.
Fuckin’ amazing!
Ooops, not Duane, nevermind.
This is Duane, Two Jews Blues!. Much better anyways.
That was awesome.
Sorry, the more beer I drink, The more Duane Allman I’ll foist upon ya’ll. I’m like the scorpion in that fable, can’t help it.
It aint lowdown but nice ans salty.
And it was before he had his nostrils replaced.
All his studio shit is badassed. It elevates everyone he played with, and he played with some masters like Aretha Franklin!
Not only is this song my favorite Allman Brothers, it is in the running for my favorite song of all time. Many times on roadtrips I’ll reach the end and push “repeat”.
You are horrible person, without exception all song should be under 15 minutes and most should be in the 3 minute range. No one needs 23 minutes of monotonous riffing.
There’s nothing wrong with seventeen minutes.
*hums innagottadavida*
Making my point for me, thanks.
On the contrary, You clearly have no taste in anything.
I liked your book.
You just proved his point.
That sounds a bit hyperbolic, man. The Allman bros. pulled off long songs just fine, even without Duane. Dickey was a badass all by hisself.
If you can’t get your bad-ass-ed-ness across in less than 15 minutes stay off the stage. Maybe it’s because I don’t smoke the reefer but after five or six minutes of Carlos and the boys grooving I’m done. One can only listen to the same droning phrase on repeat for so long no matter how “tasty” the bongos are.
Not a big fan of the Beethoven symphonies?
see below symphonies are broken into movements so while thematically tied they aren’t one long droning song.
Brahms Symphony No. 1. The movements are mostly longer than 15 minutes. Although I tend to agree with your sentiment here.
How does In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida not fulfill the same “criteria”? If you claim it doesn’t you really haven’t listened to it.
In the realm of “serious” music, I consider myself to have an “educated distaste” for Bolero. After all the fuss about it when the movie 10 came out, I called & requested it from the campus classical radio station. When I heard it, I thought, “That’s it???”
Fast forward a couple of years, and the first Mr. GT and I were driving through the mountains of PA on our honeymoon in the days before satellite radio and in a car with no tape player. The only radio station we could pick up was an NPR station that was playing at least an hour of one “Bolero” after another after another, including a very badly recorded one with a ridiculously honking horn section. It’s a miracle that marriage lasted as long as it did.
extended soloing are not independent movements. It has been a while since I listened to Iron Butterfly’s opus so if it does actually contain distinct parts none of which are over fifteen minutes then, yes, you can consider it a good song.
@GT: Ugh, yeah, Bolero. I’d only ever heard bits and parts for years, so I thought it was really neat. Then I listened to it from beginning to end, and after one pass through I thought, “This is like what happens when an author doesn’t have an editor.”
So you guys don’t fuck to Bolero?
To answer your question Ted, that would be an emphatic “no!”
OK, I’m not quite sure which bothers me more: The question, or, the fact that Ted asked it.
Does it bother you that I answered it? If not, is that only because I said “no?”
No….
n-Yes.
I trust you read only short stories, ‘cuz if you can’t get your point across is less than 15 pages…
Anyway, keep on trollin’!
(“is” s/b “in”)
Books aint songs, it’s a small distinction but us connoisseurs can tell one from the other.
So you don’t like the live version of Led Zeppelin’s “Dazed and Confused”? Monster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQgYn23Xvck
Doesn’t count as a song, there is extended vamping that has noting to do with the song itself just Jimmy masturbating with a bow.
“No one needs 23 minutes of monotonous riffing.”
Please sir, put your musical laws to paper so we all may know how to listen.
That’s what i’m doing. pay attention people!
If you take out the eight minutes of bow masturbation in the middle, it’s still 20 minutes long.
I haven’t listened to that in years. That rocked.
Trollin’, trollin’, trollin’…
Well played.
Keep them puppies trollin….
I’m sorry, what was that?
Putting six distinct song into one long mix doesn’t count, for example “2012” kicks ass but doesn’t break the 15 minute rule since none of the disparate parts are over the limit.
Try this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=frP3Zu-8QDI
I’m actually a fan of the Coleridge poem itself sung to the tune of “The Wabash Cannonball.”
YES!
That u s my favorite long song.
Great song, 13 minutes just under the wire. Complete Vindication! No collusion , No obstruction!!
Marry me Tulip.
So, Iron
MaidenWhore?/I keed!
Current wife doesn’t appreciate metal and pains me when she tries to identify an artist or song. Tulip, on the other hand, definitely appreciates the British New Wave of Heavy Metal. I think we could be very happy together in our very loud home.
::nods head, sighs::
You sure we aren’t clones, or, something?
This is starting to seem like an Archer episode
::Looks around for Krieger::
It IS!
And, might I add–a funnier, more interesting one, too.
/Love the show, but….you know.
You are basically correct. However, there are some exceptions to the rule (as UCS alluded to)
Yeah, sure, and it works with your 67 channel triplisonic 5k 54 Megapixel Ultra HD stereo system as well.
Mozart’s Symphony No. 40 runs around 25 minutes, and Beethoven’s Seventh runs over 40.
Symphonies aren’t songs.
Symphonies aren’t songs.
OK. Mountain Jam is a symphony.
Whatever floats your boat, dude.
True, songs have lyrics.
Not a song?
Nope.
True, songs have lyrics.
So, a song not a symphony
And Mountain Jam has no lyrics.
Q.E.D.
/slams basketball thru hoop and marches off smugly
Liszt’s Preludes are 16 and change minutes, and Respighi’s ‘The Birds” is about 19.
Mr. GT and his pickin’ buddies were known to play this at our annual Labor Day weekend jamathon. Once they managed to segue into “Almost Cut my Hair.” Or did they go from “ACMH” into this? I forget, but it was pretty transcendent. Or I might have been suffering from heat exhaustion. Good times.
Another of my faves!
I had this on last night at high volume.
Can’t leave out this one.
Sometimes I feel like hearing that one, thanks!
In the dark, contemplating a distant thunderstorm while drinking cognac song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZH0t5Yozw
But comes in just under 12m
A fascinating psychological profile. I approve.
Maybe I missed a link but has no one here any respect for Fire and the Mountain ?
In the mid to early 80’s I went on a cheap junket flight from Waco to a small casino in north eastern Nevada. All you had to do was show. $600 in cash as you boarded the plane to get everything free except food for 2cdays and 3 nights.
The Allman Brothers who were left played there one night.
Everyone in the 200 seat theater sang ever word to every song along with the band.
Memories. They hung out in the venison after they played.
3 days and 2 nights
Elko, Nevafa
Also just realized that that was the Marshall Tucker Band.
Right ?
I’m alcohol confused and emotional after listening to these links.
Marshall Tucker. Great band too. I always confuse Elko with Ely. Been to ely about four times on the way to Bonneville. There’s a huge lot filled with Studebakers of every stripe there. In the Casino downtown there’s a chopper built on a Century single loop frame. I love middle NV, except for the lack of gas stations.
Fire and the Mountain
This is eerie, but I put this song on and then refreshed this thread.
Hyperbole can suck it, I like long songs. Especially on road trips.
Best Allman Brothers: Melissa, Stormy Monday, Midnight Rider, Whipping Post.
That is all.
You sure you’re not hung up on dreams you’ll never see?
Molly Hatchet did it better.
If, by it, you mean this, then yes, they did.
Ok, that one is good too. That was just off of the top of my head. I haven’t actually listened to rock from that era in more than a few years.
Ooh! I forgot about “Melissa!” ***SIGH!!*** Also, a few times the ol’ band attempted a mash-up of “Can’t Find My Way Home” and “Midnight Rider.” Not too hateful, but I never got the chance to sing it often enough to get really comfortable with it.
Rachael Price sang a nice version of Can’t Find My Way Home last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xZxxVlu7BM
A couple years ago Warren Haynes started out his annual Xmas Jam with a beautiful version of Melissa with Jake Shimabakura playing Ukulele. It gave me chills hearing it live as everyone was very quiet and the uke sounded incredible with the sound crystal clear reverberating around the arena.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYbYgcdm_5U
We were listening to this on the way home tonight.
Fumando marijuana!
How about early Gregg too?
Trump has gotten more campaign donations than the top 6 Democrat candidates combined, from Seattle
Also “Editor’s note: Due to a high number of comments that violated our terms of service, the thread has been closed to new comments.”
Getting clobbered in the polls recently, though. The red flag laws and tariffs are not smart.
Yes, Trump is indeed fortunate that all his opponents (so far) are loons.
Sure, but doesn’t this kinda point to a “reluctant to admit it” level of support that the polls won’t register. Isn’t that what happened last time? Did you read the article? Donald Trump has recieved more campaign contributions, in deep blue Seattle, than the top 6 Democrats, combined.
There’s a distinction a lot of people I talk to seem to be unable to grasp: namely, that sometimes you support people because you like them, and sometimes you support people because you hate their enemies. Since you can’t just magic the candidate of your choice onto the ballot and then have that person win, you have to either sit home or choose between unpalatable options. It is entirely likely that there are people who are lukewarm or even cold on Trump who, when faced with the prospect of any of the potential Democrat candidates, will eagerly send money to help Trump’s campaign.
I hear you DenverJ. It is truly incredible. Candidly, it muddles my brain. On the one hand, no poll shows him winning. On the other hand, we know what the polls said in 2016. On the one hand, he shouldn’t be able to do this in WA state. On the other hand, it doesn’t appear to matter because he can’t win that state. On the one hand people who should be scared to identify with him no longer care. On the other hand, there doesn’t seem to be a good measure of this support.
I don’t like Trump. But as Naptown Bill points out you don’t pick your opponent and you don’t get to magic your preferred candidate into the race. The Democrats simply scare the shit out of me. Who knows who the LP will offer us.
Trump may well get reelected. But the future is really opaque to me.
I think it’s because the Dem candidates are largely running either directly against Trump (“I’m not Trump! Vote for me!”) or against a bugbear they’re trying desperately to associate with Trump, e.g. the imminent white supremacist onslaught or the secret camps where brown people are being turned into dog food, and while that’s catnip for their base and the NeverTrumpers, it doesn’t do much for the people who either support Trump or who aren’t yet decided. If you held the election now, it’s going to be an attendance sheet of who voted for Obama and cried when Hillary lost voting for whoever the Democrat is and the NeverTrumpers, and then everyone else who actually bothers to vote at all likely going for Trump or a write-in. It’s going to take this rumored recession to really sink in or some major scandal in which Trump is caught red-handed to move the needle.
It’s totally down to can the Den infrastructure can harvest enough votes.
I’ll not too surprised considering how the blues have turned Seattle into a shit hole. Even Spokane is now sport bums all over town.
Off the retard lefties in the comments.
Can they be any more tiresome with the same old repeated tropes?
It’s like they don’t read or want to evolve. There’s ZERO excuse to still think ‘Hilary won by 3 million votes’ means anything on any level.
Oof. Auto-spell is tyrannical.
Wherein hard-core leftists try desperately to stop being so darn attractive to mass murderers.
See, big government that does things the left wants to do, but contains the word ‘facsim’, is the exact opposite of what they want, in that it is exactly the same but contains a word they say describes their ‘enemies’.
I mean you can either choose the Right Left or the Left Left. There are no other choices in politics.
Does that go for the environmentalists that like to spike trees and set car lots on fire?
Spiking trees strikes me as very insidious. Hey, dude, these loggers aren’t making policy, they’re simply trying to feed their families.
Ooh, a quote from discredited alarmist Ehrlich!
I especially like this howler:
The emissions from China and India, and oh let’s say Africa if they get their act together, as all of these strive to become wealthy, are going to make the combined emissions from the bad guys over a couple hundred years look like a camp fire.
Poor people living as one with Mother Gia
https://greentumble.com/causes-of-deforestation-in-madagascar/
“The things I don’t like are white supremacy, and this includes disagreeing with me on any point, including the definition of white supremacy and the extent of its popularity.”
That was thick with derp.
I didn’t think Steve Smith gave previews. I figured he was a beast of action. And by action I mean…
Does that go for the environmentalists that like to spike trees and set car lots on fire?
There is a person whom I have met, locally, who is alleged to be one of the original “monkey wrench gang”. If somebody had shot that fucking douchebag for spiking trees or sabotaging logging equipment forty years ago and buried him in a shallow grave, the world would not have suffered an appreciable loss.
Also “Editor’s note: Due to a high number of comments that violated our terms of service, the thread has been closed to new comments.”
Neener neener, Democrats.
And for something completely different, a libertarian in a mismatched bikini fighting fruit with a machete
https://twitter.com/morganisawizard/status/1160733886432890880
She wins, and would all night long.
Wife’s turn to choose the ? for the drive. One Direction. “Sorry to say it, but whatever this is it’s terrible. Put in anything else, please.” Now she’s ?. Not listening to One Direction is one of the few things worth having a pissed off wife.
Tell her you’ll trade her an hour of One Direction for an hour of Merzbow.
Ugh my old long-time roommate was all over that shit.
I like some noise, but it has to have at least the rudiments of melody.
PS. sorry straff. That’s… something I can’t even. One Direction??? You poor bastard.
Never thought I’d be grateful to have someone pop in Oasis. If she went Wonderwall then One Direction, that would cause me to go El Paso.
Going El Paso
::crosses fingers::
pleasepleasepleaseplease….
::clicks link::
YES!
It was close. Almost did El Paso City.
Well, you chose well, my friend.
*marks down Sir Digby for a carnation and white sport coat*
Hmmm! Now, all I need to do is dig up some ppimp pumps..
That visual alone.
Take the temporary win and enjoy it.
Sleeping on the couch would be a step up from the futon.
That’s how you recruit new libertarians.
I’m just going to assume this is Florida
https://twitter.com/TheCensoredRock/status/1163240606405201921
“That’s how they used to choose a new pope.”
Classic.
Mysteries no one gives a shit about but welcome.
Why was ‘Marxist pig’ (his term in his sophomoric mini-bio) Carlos Maza fired from Vox?
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/was-carlos-maza-oppressed-by-getting-fired-from-vox/
How quaint. Obviously xe didn’t rank high enough in the victim stack. Maybe CNN will be hiring after Lemon gets sacked for sexual harassment (ha!).
Odds both Lemon and Fredo get canned.
Taking bets.
The black guy might get unemployed but the grease ball is safe, He’s connected and despite what you haters may think he’s good at his job.
That’s your opinion.
Haters. Lol.
Performing fellatio on his bosses? That’s about the only thing that Fredo could be good at.
Meh, from what I’ve seen he is more than willing to let those he disagrees with on his show and allows them to state their case without talking over them or shouting them down. You may disagree with his politics but as far as a host goes he gives everyone a fair shake.
Fair shake. Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=57qTegcMT3g
I know, I know. ‘Meh’.
Fair shake, or, equal opportunity to speak? And, yes, I see a distinction with a difference.
Well, he’s ratings are solid. At least the last time I checked in the spring. I’m sure they’re still up.
Plus I agree with Hannity – of all people – that he doesn’t need to apologize for his outburst.
He said a laughable thing and people are having fun with but that’s his opinion.
Sorry, Ruf–My post wasn’t directed at you.
i know.
Muppet IQ is just high enough to know.
It’s high enough to parse stacked comments, so…. Maybe I need to be muppetized.
/do NOT tell CPRM
/hurls striped turtle neck.
/catches turtle-neck
I think Rufus is the best ever!
Woojoo333 Poseidon
Woojoo333 Poseidon
3 years ago
If he threw back the empty bottle lmao
Oh man am I laughing my ass off at this comment.
Loved that commercial as a kid.
Holy Shiite Muslim. Cuomo is good at his job? Congratulations on being true to your handle.
New, from Time/Life books.
What is “the host of Jeopardy! working on his house”?
Daily Double!
Ironically, just after that picture was taken, he ducked down, and nailed Daryl Hammond’s mother.
Evenin’ Glibs,
Anyone have recommendations for good books on media bias? I have a lot more reading time ever since I switched to the glorious second shift lifestyle (because fuck going to bed earlier than 4 AM) and I want to catch up on my reading with all this extra time I have.
Check out Mark Levin’s latest book.
https://www.amazon.com/Unfreedom-Press-Mark-R-Levin/dp/1476773092
I read Bernard Goldberg’s ‘Arrogance’ some years ago. If I recall, it was pretty good. Maybe I should give it another whirl to see if it held up.
Ben Shapiro’s got a book on it. I don’t believe his voice is as annoying in book form. Guy’s plenty sharp, but he’s got the right wing blinders when it comes to cops, drugs and wars. He’s alright for a nazi, though.
The media is a whore that spreads her her legs for clicks. That’s my book on media bias.
I wish to purchase your book. How much?
You just read it. Pay it forward.
So you want a book on wight wing conspiracy theories?
Shouldn’t you be asleep?
no?
Right. I should be in bed.
Parting shot on a music thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j73OsXo19vI
This is how you rock and roll, my friends.
G’nite!
You shoulda been lying, man!
Shee-it if we are throwing out songs then here’s my entry.
It references El Paso which seems to be what people like tonight. It could be my marriage proposal to Tulip (see above.) It’s definitely got a great (and unexpected cameo.)
Tulip was a teacher at some point, correct?
I have no idea but videos like that are why we can’t have more libertarian women. I know how to keep it classy. I’d watch political testimony with Tulip with my devil horns in the air.
For overall TX, I’m going to have to go with another hair band.
Heh…
My version of Texas Hair Metal.
Gustave, the more I think about your link, the funnier it gets.
Kudos.
Texas song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJhye3bKIlI
That’s OK, dbl–I forgive ya.
Now I gotta bring out the big guns. 1980’s Texas Mullet band to the front:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbH60wCO-Yw
(Actually a catchy tune.)
^ You and Gustave have great minds, apparently.
Just don’t claim that around Chafed.
Dirty hippies.
Do you really not like DT?
/damn…
That was aimed at whatever band GL linked.
Whew!
Crisisdepression averted.That would be Little Texas. They were big time back in the day.
So back to work after the two days off, I got 0 emails that need answering and about 10 of them standard IT info. Got to love August in Europe…
Good morning glibbies
Good morning, Pie.
Good morning, SP!
Good morning, NANSD.
Huh…I just now realized my initials are very close to “NSAID”.
Don’t know if I’m any good at easing inflammation, now that I think about it.
Um….
*discreetly looks away*
OK, so, the avatar might not be helpful, per se.
Me, personally–I suppose I do OK. I got my technique down, and everything.
I would, if I could get there. Back after five days, myself. Found out that my mortal enemy officer* is no longer employed, so there’s that.
*something he started
Also, good morning, Pie.
I mostly work with germans, austrian and italians and they all get at least half an august, usually more off. This can be seen as efficient in a way, because things generally shut down everywhere and everyone is off at the same time. The downside is every vacation spot is crowded and more expensive than usual. Also I don’t like heat and do not like vacationing in the hottest month. I like getting holidays mostly in like april or october in general.
My cousins in the North (Italy and France) always take all of August off and head to Calabria.
Weisbaden had both a wine festival and para-archery championships. I’ve been enjoyin’ the great food, watching German women walking in the sun and fresh bier. A good weekend.
Now getting ready to head to work. Damn
German women – meh…
They are a refreshing sight compared to the women from home. Not in a league compared to women from Naples or Scandiland, but a step up from my local talent.
What’s the point of a vacation if A: everything is closed, and B: you can’t escape the crowds?
These things should be staggered throughout the year.
Mornin’, UCS! Glad to see I’m not the only one up. I miss having an active thread to peruse when I get up & am drinking my morning coffee. (The real stuff now, not the coffee protein shake I was shamed for drinking yesterday.)
Wish I could stick around, but I gotta go clean up for the ol’ day job. Only three days this week, then I’M on vacay! Woot! Woot!
I hope you enjoy your vacation.
I’m already at the day job. Things tend to be quiet during this hour of the morning most days (both on glibs and at work)
I went ahead and took today off. Wife is working a rare midday shift, and I don’t feel like dealing with working and watching the 2 year old.
I didn’t feel like working, but I had no good reason not to show up to work, so I’m at work.
I don’t feel like working either, but today I have to do the only important thing I do: review everyone’s timesheets after the supervisors approve their folks’, then tweak everything & submit our payroll to our Professional Employer Organization. Then tomorrow or Wednesday I’ll double-check that they’ve turned all the hours and minutes into the correct dollars and cents, give it the official okee-dokee, and then I’m OUTTA THERE until after Labor Day…when I’ll have to do payroll again but in a bigger hurry ‘cuz it’ll be a day later than usual.
That’s one body that never be found.
Oh, I don’t hate the man (notice I’m using present tense), but he is definitely one of the assholes in the profession: former state trooper, possible Napoleon Complex, power-tripper.
Tried to get me in trouble last Summer for NOT breaking the law for him. Fortunately, I work for many more quality people, who put him in his place.
Found out that he lied rather extensively (by omission) when he was hired here, and it aaaaalll came up prior to being deposed while I was out.
Good times.
Oooops…
“Cross-examination is the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.”
John H. Wigmore
I hope you are dancing on his grave SD.
Ehh…not really worth the effort. I didn’t hate the guy, other than for the kind of officer he was/is…was. I don’t think most people in our dept. liked him. None of the dispatchers were more than neutral with him, that I know of.
When you’ve lost ALL the dispatchers in your agency, it’s time for a new job, and….ooops!
I admire these people to no end.
https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/08/18/hong-kong-protest-1-7-million/
I’m also concerned for them it is going to get very bloody.
Me too.
https://youtu.be/B6A5xzwvVxw
Ignore the Japanese, just breaks my heart to watch.
Let’s hope it’s not a case of “gonna get worse before it gets better”.
That said, only they are gonna make any lasting changes there.
There are a couple of positive signs. The protests are still going on, it was 1.7million people that were not intimidated by the Chinese show of force outside of Hong Kong. And the Chinese government does not control media coverage in Hong Kong, so the world is truly watching.
For icing on the cake, military action in Hong Kong would cause a tsunami throughout the global financial markets, which is Beijing’s cash cow.
And finally, Trump. And I can’t believe I actually said that.
Xi is in a tough spot.
In the short term, toss up. In the long term, until mainland China liberalizes, its fucked. More Causeway Bay Books and such behind the scenes and out of view.
I get it–some of you around here aren’t fans of DTJ.
That said, he’s got some good qualities.
Bah! DJT.
Let’s kick this up a notch:
Be sure to give STEVE SMITH an extremely wide berth.
Learn the origins of a movie joke classic
Also, some interesting music trivia
some monday-morning music for you heathens