So I do drop into Twitter now and then just to see how amazingly stupid and horrible people can be. And they never disappoint me. Sloopy gave me a heads up about the ACLU wiping their asses with the Sixth Amendment, and I knew that if they were called on it, the flying monkeys would descend. Which they did. See, due process means that if you’re accused of sexual assault, you can’t be allowed to question your accuser because, you know, you’re presumed to be a rapist. And anyone who thinks that there’s a presumption of innocence and a right to confront your accuser at a hearing held by the State with massive penalties if you lose is a rape apologist. Even worse, Sloopy and Banjos are perverts for posting pics of their happy and confident kids. It really was delicious. You can start here to follow the fun. And here’s the profile pic of the woman who wants to lead the lynch mob.
SugarFree’s first reaction, “Level 8 Librarian.” And fuck, he was absolutely right. Was it the smug smirk? The carefully painted eyebrows? The pasty complexion? The reference to her cats as her “children?” Dunno, but SugarFree is rarely wrong. All she’s missing is the cup of cocoa.
Well, enough of this deliciousness. Let’s see whose birthday it is today. The true Lord of the Rings; the guy who created the ultimate let-down; a guy who, if he could, he’d give you such a belt; a sax dude with the biggest, brassiest sound I’ve ever heard come out of that instrument; and a woman who always evinces the reaction, “Wait, why am I reading this?”
News to come.
Because “covfefe” was too substantive a controversy, we now have this one to lighten things up.
Ever navigate the parking lot at a Patel Brothers grocery? This will come as no surprise, then.
R. Kelly is his spirit animal.
I wonder if she was in that Twitter mob? Well, fuck the Phillies, anyway.
I like how WaPo carefully omits the “…while throwing Molotov cocktails” part.
Molon labe, motherfuckers. Say, who’s the boss of DoJ? Oh, yeah, Trump. Fuck you, Donnie.
Old Guy Music has birthday boy Sonny Rollins playing his second most famous tune with Miles Davis. Fuck, this is just great.
I must be a twitter novice because I can’t see more than a few posts on that.
I feel like a failure.
n00b!
You’re not the only one. I think you need to go up one Tweet.
*Yore
Using Twitter means you’re a failure. No, really curious how you folks can stand it. Good bless you all.
THIS. Every time I’ve clicked on a twitter link someone has posted here it’s been a waste of time just reading it. Actually participating is incomprehensible.
Yup. Sometimes I read it just for the cringiness, but Ive never not regretted it.
Says the guy on Facebook.
Fake news
I actually logged into Twitter the other day for the first time in probably 3 or 4 years because someone made a huge error posting ballistics info and I couldn’t let it go.
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/005424.html
Even worse, Sloopy and Banjos are perverts for posting pics of their happy and confident kids. It really was delicious. You can start here to follow the fun. And here’s the profile pic of the woman who wants to lead the lynch mob.
No thanks. I value my sanity, such as it is.
And… Ow, my eye!
There was a story about a trial in the old West. The jury came back with a “guilty”verdict. The judge responded, “Keerect, but tardy. We hung ‘im an hour ago!”
It may be time for STEVE SMITH to make his Twatter comeback.
Let’s see whose birthday it is today. The true Lord of the Rings
Fake news. It’s not Tom Brady’s birthday.
Letters to the Local Rag
Dan Sobien, president of the National Weather Service Employees Organization, lambasted NOAA’s characterization of events and defended the agency’s employees.
“Let me assure you the hard working employees of the NWS had nothing to do with the utterly disgusting and disingenuous tweet sent out by NOAA management tonight #NOAA,” he tweeted Friday.
Substantive rebuttal of the authoritarianism rampant in Trump’s America. Get that guy a Medal of Freedom. Let Obama pin it on him.
“Let me assure you the hard working employees of the NWS …”
Still trying to wrap my head around the concept of “hard working” and “government employees.”
They only leave work an hour early on Fridays?
WaPo had an article about Trump’s altered map that was breathless over the fact that altering such a map is ILLEGAL. Like, they’ve really got him now.
Acme anvil, tunnel paint, jet pack…
Does anyone honestly believe Trump presented anything other than what was given to him?
I love the idea of someone giving him a map, him looking at it, saying, this doesn’t match what they said before, and drawing on it with a sharpie. I mean, that would totally happen, right? Yet that seems to be what the news media thinks.
Dude can’t take a shit without 10 people knowing, but he definitely doctored up a prop to be used in a PR stunt without anybody knowing.
Circling the drain
“I don’t know if he felt it necessary to pull out a sharpie and change the map, I don’t know if one of his aides felt they had to do that to protect his ego. No matter how you cut it, this is an unbelievably sad state of affairs for our country,” Buttigieg told CNN.
“Look, when the presidency has been reduced to this, all of us are diminished because the presidency is supposed to be something we all look up to, even if we disagree with the President… what we’re seeing there is literally pathetic,” he continued. “It makes you feel a kind of pity for everybody involved, and that’s not how I want to feel about a president whether it’s for my party or the other.”
Buttigieg also defended tying climate change to faith during his performance in Wednesday night’s CNN Climate Crisis Town Hall, where he suggested inaction over climate change is “a kind of sin.”
“Frankly, every religious and non-religious moral tradition tells us that we have some responsibility of stewardship, some responsibility for taking care of what’s around us and our neighbor,” Buttigieg told moderator Chris Cuomo. “Eventually it gets to the point this is less and less about the planet as an abstract thing and more about specific people suffering specific harm because of what we’re doing right now.”
It’s juvenile sniping, all the way down.
See my comment above
I love the idea of someone giving him a map, him looking at it, saying, this doesn’t match what they said before, and drawing on it with a sharpie. I mean, that would totally happen, right? Yet that seems to be what the news media thinks.
A media-savvy President like Obama would have a graphics person on staff to draw some big nasty rain clouds and giant rain drops. And a big old-man face in the sky, blowing houses around.
You want media-savvy? From local news…
https://www.wfmz.com/news/southeastern-pa/bucks-man-charged-with-weapons-of-mass-destruction-in-bomb-investigation/760439695
Jump to @7:15 and check out that top shelf presentation.
I can’t stop laughing at their 6th grade poster board, with paper cutouts of names and titles. It looks like 3rd place at the Science Fair
69 News, serving Intercourse, and not Blue Ball PA.
This can’t be real….
Piece-de-resistance smdh.
The mushroom cloud and speach bubbles were a nice touch.
I liked the dog an cat running away. That was the piece of resistance that made it perfect for me.
They can’t afford a tripod to put the poster on?
Oh, thats good stuff.
“Thats some mighty fine police work, Lou”
What the fuck does India think they’re doing, trying to park their toy car on our moon? The space command had it towed to the impound lot.
Technically, it’s nobody’s moon.
Well, I suppose Latvia or Suriname could claim it.
#METOO mob POUNCE
Joe Biden left an Iowa teacher unimpressed with his canned response to her question about collective bargaining, but what she resented more was how he abruptly seized her hands and clung onto them.
Jessica Roman, 41, had stopped Biden, 76, as he greeted voters on Monday during the Hawkeye Area Labor Council’s Labor Day picnic in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. The North Liberty preschool teacher, who works with special needs children, was pressing the former vice president on his plans to help unionized members of her profession under recent changes to Iowa’s collective bargaining laws when he reached for her hands.
“I think that he means well but, you know, he grabbed my hands right away and that was really uncomfortable,” she told the Washington Examiner. “He was very close and, in my mind, I’m like, this is part of our problem: Not recognizing that you need to ask first, or can I shake your hand? Not just grab your hands and hang onto them. That bothers me.”
Totally not a set-up.
Elizabeth Warren would never sexually assault that teacher without asking.
She’s way too old for him.
Warren’s existence is a collective sexual assault on all of us.
“May I shake your hand?”
Please… these people have lost their minds.
I understand her not wanting to be grabbed. Asking about a handshake is too much.
A pretty trainer gave me a hug without asking yesterday. Did she violate me? Because if so, sign me up for more of that sweet, sweet #metoo!
Roman told the Washington Examiner she had major doubts about Biden’s candidacy, his third bid for the White House. “I wouldn’t say it’s something that I didn’t like but, you know, I’m in my 40s, I’m raising a teenager, I work with very young families, and he’s not relevant,” she said.
“It’s been too long since he’s raised a family, too long since he’s lived on a normal paycheck. I want somebody that actually gets it, that understands what it is to live on the paychecks that we live on, the housing crisis that we have, all of the ways that those things affect us.”
You poor, silly, deluded woman.
“I’m in my 40s, I’m raising a teenager, I work with very young families, and he’s not relevant,” she said.”
What’s that supposed to mean? None of these fuckers are relevant. This here is an example of what’s wrong with this country.
Because I want someone who can only command the pay of a preschool teacher (which I once earned, back in the day) running the Exec branch of the FedGov. And when the hell did chicks get so freaked out about someone touching their hands? Bitch must have a personal space bubble the size of the moon’s orbit.
Meh, I like the idea of a nobody getting on there, until I realize how thoroughly manipulated by all the psychopaths who make up the top tier of government they will be.
check out that top shelf presentation.
Holy shit, that’s awesome.
“First they came for the scopes and I didn’t say anything”…
“From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama,” the statement read. “This is clearly demonstrated in Hurricane Advisories #15 through #41, which can be viewed on the center’s website.
Technically correct is the best correct.
“Level 8 Librarian.” And fuck, he was absolutely right. Was it the smug smirk? The carefully painted eyebrows? The pasty complexion? The reference to her cats as her “children?”
For all the yapping about oppression, these people don’t give a rats ass about it when they have the power.
It’s for your own good. If you were as smart as them, you would understand it. Now get back to work, or else you’ll have to be “educated” again.
I had one tell me this morning that only like 6-7% of these accusations are false and that due process isn’t necessary because the number is small enough to offset the trauma an accuser would face being cross-examined by the person they accused.
That’s fucking terrifying.
Pet-children people are the worst. it’s honestly sad, just like Sloopy said.
India’s attempt to become the first country to land a robotic mission at the Moon’s south pole has failed, after engineers lost contact with the Vikram lander — part of the Chandrayaan-2 probe.
After eating curry I sometimes feel like I am gonna blast off to the moon.
Maybe don’t wear red caps anymore, normal people?
Then how will we identify the deplorables that need to be sent to camp? She hasn’t really thought this through.
No, you misread this. She said normal people. This is a warning that if you don’t want to be shipped, stop wearing Anything that looks like that KKK hood.
Mystical creatures hardest hit.
I thought the mystical creatures would be the guys who carried your luggage at train stations.
No, you’re thinking of the White Caps.
(Surprisingly, early-mid 90’s Ohio slang is not included in the definitions I could find online).
Wow. Seven UD definitions, but none of those is the ’90s Ohio one? That must’ve been during my deportation to Indiana, because I’m not familiar with the term at all, except for a team that usually beats the Dragons.
Up here it referred to douchebag frat boys. Somewhat related to the second definition.
Brewery number 1, a hopped hefeweisen and a Polish smoked beer.
As always, the Bee delivers.
This Cardinals fan has a sad.
#metoo, especially after seeing that they lost to the Pirates last night, FFS! RUFKM?? At least the Cubbies lost too.
Years ago, I was talking to a girl at her cubicle at work. She was showing pictures of her cat and saying how she ‘loves them more than anything in the universe’ including her husband. Soon after she was divorced.
How crazy was she? We had a nice time talking and I headed back to my office. Maybe five minutes later she sent an email out to my group (there were three of us) and I replied as a joke, ‘who are you?’ Thinking i was cute, a couple minutes later I hear sobbing in my associate-boss’s office. It’s her pulling on kleenexes and putting her hands in her face crying. And then this, ‘Why did you write that in the email?’ Bewildered I said, ‘it was a joke. Of course I know who you are.’
It gets better.
I don’t remember the timeline of if this was before or after the incident but a mutual fund rep left me four tickets for U2. instead of leaving it in my office he left it with my assistant (who was a flake herself. The only reason why there was no fireworks is because I kept the peace with that disrespectful tart).
I was at lunch so when I came back I got a call from the rep saying if I liked the gift. Obviously, what gift right? So I go into my associate-boss’s office and I ask if Spectrum Funds left me anything? And they both gave a nervous grin. The bitch said tickets to U2 but that they ALREADY PROMISED MY TICKETS TO OTHER PEOPLE including that crazy cat girl. My boss, instead of being an honourable man, didn’t flinch after the assistant said, ‘Well, it’s gonna kill her if we tell her no now’.
I was expecting him to say something like, ‘Look, these are his tickets that he worked for. Too bad’. But nope. Just stupid fucken indifferent grins.
Doing a fast calculation in my head on the spot I chose to ‘take the high road’ and left it alone since it would mean if I forced them to give me the ticket that was rightfully mine, I would have to be with them that night and it would have been uncomfortable for me. It’s how i’m wired. That someone didn’t go bat for me (which is always the case with me /sad trombone) was enough for me to just leave it alone and move on. But I’m still pissed about it….16 years later.
That girl in the pic is trouble in the office.
By the way, the other ticket went to my assistant’s boyfriend. A guy who didn’t work for us.
Next day? All I heard them talk about in the morning was how great the tickets and concert were.
Blood. Boiling.
Why come you not happy for their happiness. It still surprises me that there are people that self absorbed that they would not see how wrong that was.
That’s explicitly called out as code of conduct violation at my company – the only way you can give tickets to family or friends is of nobody in the company wants them.
I’d be enraged.
But at least you got to dodge U2. 🙂
I was never a big fan but damn….the principle of it all.
I soon left. I decided it wasn’t for me living like that.
Could have scalped them. I think those things are expensive.
You think scalping is legal in Canada?
Only for First Nations.
It’s a real headache dealing with them though.
Careful, you’ll get Swiss on the warpath.
Is anything still legal in Canada? But this was 16 years ago, so maybe then.
16 years later, and you still haven’t found what you’re looking for…
I larfed.
I know. ‘Bad’ eh?
Are you gonna wait forever?
It’s a beautiful day for forgiveness
I was building sets on a hot dusty soundstage in Sylmar, CA back in the day. A prominent music video director was on set, and was preparing for his next project; directing the music video for “Beautiful Day”. Motherfucker blasted that goddamn shitty song at top volume on repeat for six hours straight. I hate that song. I hate that guy.
No. I have my Pride.
At least he didn’t exhibit excessive Pride.
Damn that would piss me off too. You have more chill than I do. Though I guess if one was a boss there was only so much you could fight.
Fuck you, Donnie.
Yup. Bad Donald. But the fun part will be waiting to see if Google complies because they hate guns/gun-owners or doesn’t because Orange Man Bad.
This is somehow new and bad because Orange Man Bad
Four state Republican parties are looking at possibly scrapping their primaries and caucuses for 2020, giving President Trump a clear run in those states, and creating a new hurdle for primary challengers.
Politico first reported that Arizona, Kansas, Nevada and South Carolina were expected to finalize their plans this weekend…
“Historically, we have never held a caucus if we have an elected incumbent Republican in the White House,” she said in an email. “We will be giving President Trump the same treatment we have given every elected Republican dating back to Abraham Lincoln.”
The Arizona and South Carolina parties noted in statements that both the GOP and Democrats have opted out of primaries and caucuses in recent history:
“This is nothing new, despite the media’s inauthentic attempt to portray it as such, “Arizona GOP Chairwoman Kelli Ward said. “Arizona Republicans are fired up to reelect President Trump to a second term and will continue to work together to keep America — and Arizona — great.”
Nevada’s Republican Party also confirmed that it would be taking up a proposal to opt out of the caucus.
“Instead of wasting money on a caucus, the Nevada Republican Party’s central committee is going to vote on canceling it this weekend,” spokesman Keith Schipper said in a statement. “This is no different than what many states have done previously when an incumbent president is up for reelection. Making this change would allow us to save money and put it toward electing Republicans up and down the ballot next November.”
Bill, you mendacious cunt.
“Donald Trump, by turns arrogant and paranoid, has made no secret of the fact that he wishes to be crowned as president rather than elected. That might be fine in a monarchy, but we overthrew ours two centuries ago,” tweeted former Mass. Gov. and primary challenger Bill Weld.
Don’t state parties decide these things?
Who is Bill Weld?
Weld is an opportunist POS. Why isn’t he picking out which Democrat he’s going to endorse?
Related.
Friday on MSNBC’s “The Beat,” former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL), who is challenging President Donald Trump for the Republican presidential nomination, said Trump was “trying to eliminate elections.”
Walsh said, “This is not North Korea or Russia. Donald Trump is trying to eliminate elections. He wants to eliminate primary elections, right now in four states — Arizona, Nevada, South Carolina and Kansas. That is undemocratic B.S. It’s wrong, and that’s the kind of thing that should piss off Republican voters.”
He added, “I think they’re scared to death of this president having any other name on a primary ballot against him because he’s imploding day-to-day. I think they’re afraid. That’s not a sign of strength. You want to eliminate elections? You want to take away the will of the people? You don’t do that if you’re a big, strong guy.”
-_____-
He may have created the ultimate let-down, but not before they dominated the AAFC.
You’re an idiot: this is not a trial it’s a fucking “investigation” by the university. You have rights, to be used in the fucking courthouse.
I’ll be sure to tell the public school that institutional prayer is coming back, yknow because rights begin and end in the courtroom.
a hearing held by the State with massive penalties if you lose
So totally not a trial. And maybe indeed it isn’t- at a trial, there’s at least a make-believe attempt at fairness.
+1 red flag
+1 terror watch list
+1 no fly list
The understanding of Rights is so fucked up, purposely made so by the NEA. It’s a human right to free education, but due process is rape culture.
More philosophical musings from Barrel Shroud Barbie.
Friday on MSNBC’s “All In,” March for Our Lives co-founder David Hogg discussed what he believed was the origin of mass shootings in the United States.
Hogg said, “I think it comes down to reckoning with our history and our history of white supremacy in the United States. The fact that we live in a post-genocidal society oftentimes that was orchestrated by the United States government in that if we want to talk about mass shooting we need to recognize the massive number of ingenious mass shootings that was conducted by the United States government. I think back to the battle of Wounded-Knee and the several hundred Native Americans predominately men, woman and children that were slaughtered by the United States government back in the nineteenth century. And how that is never discussed as a mass shooting. And that was wrong because those people were not armed and we were stealing their land.”
predominately men, woman and childre
Just LoL
Will no one think of the Two Spirits?
Well, that’s totally relevant.
Yes but the bomb plots of the 60’s not so much.
Jeebus. Gauleiter Hogg is still getting airtime?
I would have guessed this was the Babylon Bee but I’m not certain from that link.
Here: https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/09/06/david-hogg-todays-mass-shootings-stem-from-americas-ingenious-mass-shootings-and-white-supremacy/
Eliminationist rhetoric
The head of the Arizona Republican Party faced a backlash Friday after sending a fundraising email that said Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Mark Kelly, who rose to prominence when his wife was shot in the head, will be stopped “dead in his tracks.”
The email sent Thursday by Arizona GOP Chairman Kelli Ward highlighted Kelly’s advocacy for gun control, a cause the retired astronaut took on after his wife and then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords survived a 2011 shooting in Tucson that killed six and injured more than a dozen.
“Support the Republican Party of Arizona today and, together, we’ll stop gun-grabber Mark Kelly dead in his tracks,” Ward wrote.
So triggering.
Why don’t they go punch a Nazi
Next you’ll tell me they put a crosshair over his face, well on a map, but whatever.
I’m surprised that you’re surprised.
“I know this sounds naive. I didn’t think the left was so mean. I didn’t think the left lied like this,” Ms. Williamson told the New Yorker’s David Remnick in an interview published Tuesday.
“I thought the right did that,” she said. “I thought we were better.”
Mr. Remnick had asked Ms. Williamson to weigh in on what she’s learned this year, citing the ousider candidate’s portrayal by the media as a “crystal gazing kook” for her peace and love approach to policy.
Ms. Williamson took umbrage at the interviewer’s “crystal gazing” remark, declaring that “there is no crystal” in her home.
“There is no crystal in my home, David,” she said. “There’s never been a crystal on stage when I’ve talked.
“I’ve never told an AIDS patient not to take their medicine,” she continued, citing the myriad criticisms she’s faced on the campaign trail. “I’ve never told anyone not to take their medicine. I’ve never told anyone that their lovelessness created their disease. I never told anyone they could love enough to cure their disease.”
“I’m Jewish, I go to the doctor,” she added.
Honestly, I find that disappointing.
I think my support for her collapsed. It’s sad to see someone abandon their principles for power.
I can only hope that she stays nationally relevant in the long term. I really want to see the H&H extended universe where the talking crystals tell her to kill everybody because their chakras are misaligned.
CPRM–make it so!
em>The fact that we live in a post-genocidal society oftentimes that was orchestrated by the United States government in that if we want to talk about mass shooting we need to recognize the massive number of ingenious mass shootings that was conducted by the United States government.
Damned clever, those troopers.
ps-
“One of us. One of us. Gooble gobble, gooble gobble. One of us.”
Good luck, I guess.
The Democrat-controlled House Judiciary Committee is set to vote next week on a resolution laying out the procedures that it will use for its investigation as they are reportedly considering moving to impeach President Donald Trump.
“The vote, which is expected to occur on Wednesday, will lay out the ground rules for conducting hearings now that the committee has publicly announced it is considering recommending articles of impeachment against Trump,” CNN reported. “It is expected to follow the precedent set in 1974 over the committee’s procedures during then-President Richard Nixon’s impeachment proceedings.”
CNN noted that the resolution is expected to allow future House Judiciary hearings to be conducted in ways different than normal congressional hearings because the Democrat-controlled committee is considering impeachment. The resolution, which CNN said was “a major step,” is also expected to give Chairman Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) extra power to call hearings at the different committee levels in connection with “its impeachment deliberations.”…
Politico noted that the move comes after Nadler declared in August that his committee was already involved in impeachment proceedings which sparked widespread confusion since no formal vote had been taken.
“Though the language of the resolution is still in flux, some sources said it could incorporate elements of traditional impeachment probes, such as offering access to the president’s attorneys or providing for more time to question witnesses,” Politico reported. “There was discussion among some Democrats on Friday’s call about the strength of the language in the resolution, according to sources briefed on the call.”
A source told Politico that the move was intended to increase the “officialness” of Democrats’ investigations into the president, most of which have hit significant roadblocks and have been stalled.
I think they need to hold hearings to determine if they need hearings to decide whether to start impeachment proceedings. That might help drag it out until November 2020 without having to actually do it.
I’m proud to say I’m drawing the line over this kerfuffle over Dorian and not following it. At some point, you just have to tune out or else you’ll lose it.
I read that CNN article and just shook my head the whole time. THIS is an example of a) terrible journalism designed to specifically rile people up. Plus ‘unmanned source’ is somehow ‘objective’ and b) we’re too comfortable if this is what qualifies as a controversy.
Pure garbage by a garbage entity.
I think it’s really designed to draw attention away from CNN having labeled Alabama as Mississippi on one of their maps.
But at least you got to dodge U2.
He could have scalped those tickets.
Please! “Resold on the open market,” because the “s-word” is RAAAAAAACIST!!!1!!
Alright, enough procrastinating. Time to mow the damn yard.
How long has it been? 1 month? 2?
Have fun, I’m off to bike to some breweries.
I’ll just be here, trapped under a sick toddler. Q.Q
Here’s hoping you don’t get the baptism in bile.
Off to stop two.
“I know this sounds naive. I didn’t think the left was so mean. I didn’t think the left lied like this,” Ms. Williamson told the New Yorker’s David Remnick in an interview published Tuesday.
“I thought the right did that,” she said. “I thought we were better.”
She’s right. That is galactically naive.
Or just insanely stupid.
“This dangerous rhetoric has absolutely no place in Arizona and is what’s wrong with our politics,” said Jacob Peters, a Kelly spokesman. “Mark Kelly is running for Senate to overcome this type of nasty divisiveness that does nothing for Arizonans.”
Take your meds.
Holy Bejesus. Yesterday I asked how long before Antonio Brown would act up again and he did so on the next day!
“And that’s fine! I have worked my whole life to prove that the system is blind to see talent like mines. Now that everyone sees it, they want me to conform to that same system that has failed me all those years. “I’m not mad at anyone. I’m just asking for the freedom to prove them all wrong.” Release me @raiders #NOMore #theyputblindersonahorseforareason #NoMoreFake”
Dude has issues I reckon.
I think his main issue is a raging ego combined with never being told no.
Did somebody post a link to his Youtube video?
I saw it. He better hope his coach doesn’t sue him for recording him without his permission. California is a two party state.
No he did this.
The Oakland Raiders have released Antonio Brown.
https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/1170097709019041792
We are living in a simulation.
Worth it for the photos If the link works, that is.
In late 2017, the Sprague Fire ripped through Glacier National Park. One of the structures lost in the fire was the historic Sperry Chalet.
The Sperry Chalet was built in 1913 and was one of a series of wilderness lodges built by the Great Northern Railway.
But I have it on good authority that any human presence or activity in the wilderness causes all the animals to die.
American gun culture, with ‘libertarianism run amok,’ causes gun violence
Check and Mate, Libertards
Our Constitution mandates that our government promote the general welfare and the common defense
Says the moron who couldn’t possibly be bothered to understand the general welfare clause and its purpose.
You know what else the Constitution mandates…?
Ooh, I know this one.
Hitler?
Ponies?
Blowjobs? I swear that clause was somewhere in there…
That’s under general welfare.
^
Genital welfare.
Gay cakes?
Wow. Peak derp does exist.
Having guns to defend yourself isn’t helping to provide for the common defense?
Go ahead, pull the other one.
Also, I don’t think we’re anywhere near pariah status. .. somehow people keep doing business with us, moving here and listening to what we say. Almost like the opposite of a pariah.
Any amount of non government-issued freedom is libertarianism run amok
That’s Robert Curran, the guy who makes the rest of the male ballet dancer population look straight.
Cultivating a gun culture in which four percent of the world’s population possesses more than 42% of the world’s guns is not promoting the general welfare nor is it providing for the common defense at its most basic level.
You’re right, it’s a disgrace that only 4% have guns. What kind of defense is that?
Our Constitution mandates that our government promote the general welfare and the common defense.
Which is not an enumerated authority and the government is expressly prohibited from general disarmament. Kindly fuck off and learn something about civics and American government.
Making matters even worse is the specious claim that there are simply too many guns of all kinds in private hands to try to regulate, much more to repossess them.
Specious? Perhaps you don’t know what words mean and/or have a cognitive reasoning ability. There are 300 million firearms among some 70-80 million people. Not only are gun-grabbers wrong about the constitutionality of the confiscation they propose, they are dangerously ignorant and naive.
I dunno, I feel pretty safe from gun violence.
All but a few mass murders by firearm in the United States since at least 1950 and all but one mass murders by firearm in Western Europe since at least 1950 were in the kind of so-called ‘gun-free zone’ that is enforced by only signage. Letting people concealed-carry firearms is far cheaper and less of a hinderance to foot traffic than putting scanners, metal detectors, and so on everywhere. Imagine having to do an airport-style check-in whenever you go into a Woke*mart, for example.
But somehow trying to turn the entire United States into an unenforced gun-free zone is supposed to be the solution?
“He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them.” — Thomas Jefferson.
“Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” – Ben Franklin
That’s funny – last I heard, there are so many people coming here to make a better life for themselves that it’s actually a major political issue.
Outside of a few hotbeds of violence located in major metro areas, the US is very safe. The deaths from lone psychopath shooters since 2001 has not come close to the death toll of 9/11, but I don’t see Lefties freaking out about how every single person in America is at a daily risk of being killed by Islamic radicals.
It’s a MADHOUSE!
The number of guns owned by civilians is an outrage, a profanity, a sign that this country has lost its collective mind. But not to the National Rifle Association it isn’t. Not to the Gun Owners of America, another major gun lobby organization with over two million members, which is frequently critical of the NRA for being too soft on gun rights. These well-funded lobbies for gun manufacturers and gun owners have long taken the position that what we need is more guns, not less. They say that more guns equal less crime, despite FBI statistics that show conclusively that violent crime, and especially crimes involving firearms, is higher per capita in areas of the country with more guns.
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It’s madness. Every mass shooting proves how mad it is. Can you imagine what it must have been like in the El Paso Walmart, or outside the bar in Dayton, or on the street in Odessa? Guns were going off. People all around you were hit, wounded, dying, bleeding. Even if you were carrying a handgun, what would you have done?
Hide. Get behind something. Run. That’s what I would do. That’s what people did in El Paso, Dayton, and Odessa.
These mass shootings are acts of terror. People are terrorized, scared to death. They’re trying to stay alive.
In a country with more guns than people, the “good guy with a gun” myth is an obscenity. It’s a lie. Guns don’t save us. They kill us.
Lucian K Truscott IV at his hyperventilating, shit-flinging best.
And, remember- If well-trained, heavily armed police can’t kill an active shooter with less than 66 bullets, how can we expect an armed teacher in a grade school to do it?
I think we all should just lie down and die. That would be better for the planet, in any case.
despite FBI statistics that show conclusively
No, that is not correct.
Even if you were carrying a handgun, what would you have done?
Taken cover at the sound of gunfire, assess the situation and respond accordingly to the best of my abilities. *shocked face* that morons that know dick about guns also don’t understand that rifles lose the range advantage in close quarters.
“good guy with a gun” myth
There are dozens of examples on a daily basis that it is not a myth.
Guns don’t save us. They kill us.
Which is why they are used to protect money, politicians and the national border.
I am done with the fragrantly dangerous ignorance of anti-
2afreedom people.Yeah, they stink.
It’s not ignorance, it’s at best deliberate obtuseness. But I too am unwilling to pretend that disingenuous assholes don’t mean what they say when they’re pretty much openly telling me that they want to take away my ability to defend myself and my family by force. I’m willing to talk with anyone about anything, more or less, but on this topic let’s start from the position that I’m not giving up a single gun to anyone and the second amendment specifically refers to the individual right to own firearms of any kind. Maybe this is the hangover talking, but I have lost all patience for people who use mock outrage over the tragic deaths of people they’ve never met and couldn’t give two shits about in order to take away my basic human rights.
It’s time to create a conservative ecosystem that doesn’t welcome racists
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that conservatism is not an actual set of principles.
Conservatives cling to the principles of cowardice and an inability to maintain conviction
I don’t see the Dems purging their racists.
Who would be left if they did?
Red Zone: First weeks of college most dangerous for sexual assault
If you binge drink, you’ve been assaulted?
I could definitely see that. You don’t know who to look out for yet and are likely to be drinking a lot.
But drinking is illegal for most undergraduates!
They need common sense booze control on campuses.
Still with the 5 out of 4 every day crap?
*exasperated sigh*
Fucking loons never give up.
Can Sarah explain why she isn’t leading a million person march to close down these rape factories once and for all? I would think that the million plus college students that got raped last weekend would surely leave campus and complete their studies from home.
Oh wait, why is none of that happening?
Lower the drinking age to 18. Quit making it necessary for these inexperienced shitheads to binge.
Also, what the fuck ever happened to watching out for your friends?
“Also, what the fuck ever happened to watching out for your friends?”
Half of the people on campus are convinced everyone else is a Nazi and the other half don’t trust the half who are calling everyone else a Nazi. Intentionally sewn discord, feature not bug.
“Commonly, we find that instances of rape and sexual assault include binge drinking, encouragement to participate in a hook-up culture on campus,” Trimble said.
Deny your sexuality. Save yourself. Be a good girl.
Who are the neo-Victorian prudes, again?
Meh, there is something wrong with ‘ hook up culture’, just because idiots say it doesn’t make it untrue. Big difference between denying your sexuality and not jumping in bed with anyone around.
I am enough of an old-fashioned prude to agree.
I spent my teens and twenties trying to get laid, and even I agree. Those old, fusty, stuffy social norms against trying to fuck anything that will stand still long enough actually serve a purpose, as it turns out.
The funny thing is that feminism was a big proponent of the “sexual revolution”, yet the effects are harming women quite a lot. They get treated like fuckmeat and left to raise the accidental children alone. I’m not going to pretend that this never ever happened in the old days, but it used to be the norm that sex was a man’s reward for fulfilling certain duties. There was nowhere near perfect adherence to these norms, but at least some portion of men were disincentivized from knocking girls up and ditching them.
Not to mention that the combination of no-fault divorce and alimony laws have made marriage a rotten deal for men, so more of them just turn to the hookup culture to satisfy their sexual desires.
Blowjobs? I swear that clause was somewhere in there…
Pursuit of Happiness.
You can’t say “happiness” without saying “penis”.
You can’t say “gay” without saying “gay”.
Счастье.
Are you happy?
““Female students locked out of the priory school in Sussex and had the police called on them for refusing to wear ‘gender neutral’ trousers. Well done girls. ?””
https://twitter.com/Lisaismyname89/status/1169981990424256512
“Hats off to the girls at a Sussex secondary school who are refusing to comply with new rules requiring them to wear ‘gender neutral’ uniforms. The gates were closed on them because – shock, horror – they want to continue wearing skirts! All power to them!”
https://twitter.com/PaulEmbery/status/1169990428759875585
There was an official in that video wearing a skirt …
The UK is over. Somebody turn out the lights on the way out.
Dude, I don’t know what the fuck is going on over there, but it’s astonishing and depressing.
Well, at least it’s useful as a sneak-peek of what’s coming in the US.
I was watching Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee last night, which I love, and out of nowhere Lewis Black gave me a ray of sunshine about all this, saying that he believes the people doing this shit will be worn down by the people who won’t put up with it. I never thought I’d be more cynical than him, but here we are.
The most baffling part of it all is that the Conservatives have held the government for almost 10 years. This shit is all their doing.
The ACLU started as legal defense for the communist party. They are just returning to their roots, that is all.
The party that is openly campaigning to completely destroy the energy sector, your ability to move about, your ability to defend yourself, your ability to create and accumulate wealth, the party openly mocking civil liberties and denigrating Americans, vowing to destroy the country and enslave its people….those people are tearing their hair over OrangeBadMan’ incorrect predictions about the path of a hurricane?
I think I saw one of them twit yesterday that Trump’s tweet about the hurricane alone is grounds for impeachment. Guess what? He. isn’t going to be impeached. He is, however, going to be re-elected and they have no one to blame but themselves.
How many that would not have otherwise are now going to wear red hats?
Fuck the Palis. That is all.
I am guessing the gun control hysteria will evaporate after the election, but that is not what this is. How about this? I never give any info to anyone I think will be giving info to the feds.
Agreed with most of your rant, but gun control hysteria will never end.
https://twitter.com/blogTO/status/1169998472742940672
WTF Canada?
Why are they protesting Chic-Fil-A this time? Dead chickens? Christian CEO? Polite employees? Or just C-F’s general success?
They didn’t learn their lesson I see.
It’s still the same protest against the owner wanting to puts gays in camps thing.
They want to skin-suit it. See also: everywhere else.
Center-lefty Tim Pool’s take on the Chick-Fil-A kerfluffle.
The blonde lunatic with the sign looks familiar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmfRMeU6pQ8
As God is my witness, had I been in there, I would have yelled, “SHOW US YOUR TITS!”
“SHOW US YOUR BREAST MEAT!”
See, you’re part of the problem. Tits are part of the problem. Some of them girls might have them and if they don’t wear the gender neutral, someone might see them and be offended. We’re not prudes or anything, we just want equality and them titties is preventing equality.
She’s insane but she has a nice
asshind.It’s not food, it’s lunch, and if you don’t fuck off and leave me be it’s going to be violence.
“Comments are disabled for this video.”
“Hi. Would you like a complimentary chicken sandwich?” – restaurant manager
Reminds me of this.
High road is the best road.
Well, the woman with the sign proved her own message, at least.
What about eating plants? Plants are people, too.
Mandatory breatharianism!
We’re going to ban plants right after banning meat. Let them eat cake!
“You know who else was the lord of the rings?”
The Sani-flush guy?
Facts, they suck
Who cares about facts, we got us an agenda to become oligarchs! Now shut up and obey, sheeples!
“Shhhhh!”
“Homes are bigger and have more expensive possessions.”
Well, we have a big solution for that also. /democrats
More subsidies for coastal home insurance?
No, tax everyone so heavily they can only afford tiny houses and probably not food at the same time. WIN/WIN for the planet.
20 minute bar argument over why BTO is that he worst band in Canadian history. Sorry, but they suck. At least I’m not walking home tonight.
Worse than Sheriff?
That’s taking care of business.
That chick looks too stupid to be a Librarian. Plus she would burn most of the books.
Can we still want to see her boobs?
Of course. One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Culture of death, cont’d
Ten states and nearly two dozen members of Congress are joining the National Rifle Association in supporting gun-maker Remington Arms as it fights a Connecticut court ruling involving liability for the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting.
Officials in the 10 conservative states, 22 House Republicans and the NRA are among groups that filed briefs with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday and Wednesday. They urged justices to overturn the Connecticut decision, citing a much-debated 2005 federal law that shields gun makers from liability, in most cases, when their products are used in crimes.
Remington, based in Madison, North Carolina, made the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle used to kill 20 first graders and six educators at the Newtown, Connecticut, school on Dec. 14, 2012.
A survivor and relatives of nine victims of the massacre filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Remington in 2015, saying the company should have never sold such a dangerous weapon to the public and alleging it targeted younger, at-risk males in its marketing and through product placement in violent video games.
We should be able to sue Stanley if somebody hits us with a hammer.
Crow bar manufacturers hardest hit.
The lawyer who took that case should be castrated. That’s egregiously bad litigation. If the people behind the suit are sincere, they’re obviously too distraught to make sound decisions. If not, it’s a blatant money grab.
He won, didn’t he?
Make a gun that won’t kill elementary students.
Listen to me! Please? Why don’t no one listen to me?
You just have to reason with those commie dictators, that’s all. If only Donald Trump wasn’t such a meanie. They will totally listen to me and care and become nice guys and all and start caring about the fights of the peasants. Really! I’m the true leader of the West! Really!
The Chinese know that the Germans aren’t going to do jack shit.
Merkel’s pretty irrelevant at this point anyway, after nearly losing to the AfD. And her party is so much like the American left that all they can think to do is call the AfD far right extremists and compare them to Nazis. By next election, they’re going to ensure that the AfD becomes the majority party.
She didn’t nearly lose to the AfD. She nearly lost to the left. Her own party is not the left-wing party in German politics. While AfD did really well given they started with 0 seats, the second largest party is the Social Democrats, not AfD. A coalition of all left-wing parties (so-called “red, red, green” for the Social Democrats, “The Left” party i.e. old-school DDR commies, and the Greens) would already have more seats than Merkel’s CDU/CSU coalition. Even if AfD overtakes the CDU/CSU, it will still be outnumbered by the left.
Yeah, I know Merkel’s party are supposed to be conservative, but by American standards, they’re leftists. But thanks for the correction, I think the article I read was stressing that the AfD made the biggest gains and I just misinterpreted that as nearly won.
They’re most definitely on the right side of the German political spectrum, although I’m sure they will continue to shift leftward to distance themselves from AfD. They and the Tory remainers in Britian and the NeverTrumpers here want to be the “polite” conservatives who will give up any ground over which they can be called “racist” or “bigoted”. While some of them do have principles, they’re allowing themselves to be guided by their opposition’s hate rather than their own beliefs.
They did come in a close second in both states, and the previous governing coalitions won’t have a majority in either state.
Actually, the polls suggest the second-largest party after the upcoming election will be the Greens.
But neither red/red/green nor Union/FDP will have a majority.
That’s true, but it wasn’t that way a year ago and could be different in 2 years’ time. I should probably also point out that the CDU/CSU are currently in coalition with the SPD (Social Democrats) so the situation is complicated. And, of course, due to the across-the-board dislike of AfD, it’s also possible for a coalition of all non-AfD parties to form as long as AfD doesn’t get a majority.
Also, all other parties have agreed that the AfD are untouchables and won’t partner with them.
“Merkel’s pretty…” this is where you lost me.
Pleads with China to respect rights while leading a crusade to fuck the British out of their right to self-determination. I’m sure China must be chuckling at that one.
The irony, it burns.
Something, something, moral authority, something, unimpeachable character.
Hecklers
One of America’s largest sporting goods retailers is taking shots at Walmart’s new ammo policy with an add campaign and limited edition t-shirt.
Brownells is a retailer that offers a variety of firearms, gun parts and accessories primarily through its online store. Recently, the company added a new t-shirt to its inventory. The politically charged garment aims to critique Walmart for its recent decision to stop selling ammunition for the types of firearms frequently targeted by gun control.
Brownell’s new t-shirt is now available to preorder at $14.99, and features what appears to be seven .357 magnum rounds arranged to resemble Walmart’s logo set before a Walmart-blue background. The shirt also showcases Brownell’s name and implores viewers to “save freedom. Buy ammo.”
Is Walmart going to stop selling .22lr? There are a lot of .22 pistols.
Lol. Smart move.
22s are weapons of war and must be banned. Next, we’re going after pellet guns. No, really. And then slingshots, pea shooters, and plastic assault straws.
Good morning Old Man and the rest of you miscreants!
Thanks for turning me on to Seela, brother. Perfect for a leisurely Saturday morning.
Someday, we’ll take a road trip down to Austin and get a beer or two with her and her husband (who is an amazing drummer). She’s delightful and unbelievably nice.
I’d dig that. Her songs suggest an interesting life.
You’re always in a good mood. What’s the secret?
Massive quantities of drugs.
That’d land me in prison. Got anything less harsh?
Japan isn’t on the path to marijuana legalization yet?
Yep, but it’s dead boring:
Walk every morning, lift weights, eat well, sleep enough and be really fucking grateful to not be dead.
Toss a little alcohol into that mix and you’re good to go.
The lawyer who took that case should be castrated. That’s egregiously bad litigation. If the people behind the suit are sincere, they’re obviously too distraught to make sound decisions. If not, it’s a blatant money grab.
Like the gun control group who convinced the old man and his wife to sue somebody. They lost, and ended up bankrupt. I can’t find it.
After Aurora, maybe?
But the lawyer made it home safely with all their money?
Lucky gunner suit, I think.
Nevermind
Here it is
We have been getting a lot of questions about our lawsuit against Lucky Gunner, the online company that sold ammunition to the man who murdered our daughter Jessica along with 11 others in an Aurora, Colorado, theater. Especially after the Rachel Maddow Show covered us twice, people ask us about the judge’s order that we pay Lucky Gunner’s attorneys’ fees, since our lawsuit was unsuccessful.
We brought our lawsuit because we thought it was outrageous that companies could sell a dangerous man an arsenal without getting any information about him, and without making any effort to see if he was a dangerous killer — which he was. When the killer had left a voicemail with a shooting range, the range operator knew that he was bad news and shouldn’t be given access to guns. But these companies set up their business so people just like this killer can arm themselves at the click of a mouse. We wanted to change that. And we still do.
Attorneys at Arnold and Porter and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence brought the lawsuit for us, pro bono. We knew the risks of bringing the case. We knew that Colorado and Congress have given special protection of the gun industry, and we knew that under Colorado law we could even be ordered to pay attorneys’ fees because of those special protections.
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The judge dismissed our case because, he said, these online sellers had special immunity from the general duty to use reasonable care under the federal Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act and a Colorado immunity law. If you couple the PLCAA law with Colorado’s law HB 000-208, (which says in essence: If you bring a civil case against a gun or ammunition seller and the case is dismissed then the plaintiff must pay all the defendant’s costs), you have an impenetrable barrier to using the judicial system to effect change in gun legislation in Colorado.
Everyone else in society has a duty to use reasonable care to not injure others — except gun and ammunition sellers.
To make matters worse, the judge ordered that we pay $203,000. This is an outrageous amount, especially given that this case was decided after one single motion! Lucky Gunner has said that it is going to donate all these fees to “gun rights” groups. The thought is disgusting to us that Lucky Gunner does not even plan to use this money to pay for their attorney’s fees.
“We’ll fight this thing right down to your last nickel.”
Everyone else in society has a duty to use reasonable care to not injure others — except gun and ammunition sellers.
They exercised that duty (the weapons and ammunition weren’t defective). The killer didn’t. Your problem is that you want to go after a party for harm they did not cause.
The thought is disgusting to us that Lucky Gunner does not even plan to use this money to pay for their attorney’s fees.
It’s a meaningless distinction, as money is fungible. They’re giving away $203k because they want to spite you; they still had to pay their attorneys.
an impenetrable barrier to using the judicial system to effect change in gun legislation in Colorado
The judicial branch is not the master of the legislative branch. If you want to change the law, you have to do it with votes not judges.
More:
The law says we are responsible for these fees, which we recognize. We do not have the money to pay this amount. The Judge insinuated in his order that Brady should pay since he said they were the instigators. If this was a ploy designed to give the appearance that Brady was responsible and turn us against each other, it did not work.
Brady is still fighting for us pro bono and we see no evidence that the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence will not help us raise funds if and when that time comes.
We believe that the judge’s decision was wrong, and that it is unconstitutional to financially punish people for bringing a lawsuit, especially a public interest case that did not seek a dime. But rather than risk possibly being ordered to pay even more fees, we are changing our focus from going after these laws in the judicial branch (we have dropped our appeal) to getting them overturned on the legislative level.
We have brought attorney Dan Wartell with the law firm Jones & Keller into our team who is also helping us.
We hope that we are spearheading a movement to expose these egregious and unconstitutional laws for what they really are. They are an attack on our civil liberties. With these laws in place ordinary citizens are effectively barred by the exorbitant cost from bringing any civil action against sellers of firearms and ammunition.
Loser pays is un-American, I guess. Because you should be able to file nuisance lawsuits as part of your First Amendment rights, or something.
You forced a company that did not harm you to defend itself in court. That’s not free. The amount may be excessive, and so worth appealing, but come on. The courts are not there to fuck over people you don’t like.
Gun manufacturers presumably sell to some kind of wholesaler who then sells it to federally-licensed firearms dealers (e.g. gun shops) who are required to do background checks for every sale. So why is there any blame on them? It’s not like they’re driving truckloads of their products into West Baltimore and just handing them out on the street.
The courts are not there to fuck over people you don’t like.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, that one’s more aspirational than realistic.
That job sucks; I’d rather see you starve, ch 728
California is in the final stretch of its bid to regulate the gig economy.
On Aug. 30, the state’s Senate Appropriations Committee cleared Assembly Bill 5, moving it a crucial step closer to becoming state law. It is now widely expected the bill, known as AB5, will pass a full Senate vote before the legislative session ends Sept. 13 and be signed by governor Gavin Newsom. The bill would likely force many gig companies to reclassify their independent contractors as employees, pulling the very foundation of the gig economy out from under it.
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Do Uber or Lyft drivers perform work “outside the usual course of the hiring entity’s business”? It seems pretty clear that drivers drive, and driving is essential to the “usual course” of business for Uber and Lyft.
Unless, of course, Uber and Lyft are information clearinghouses, who merely facilitate a transaction between riders and drivers, and not taxi services. But that requires a subtlety of understanding far beyond the capabilities of Quartz writers (or politicians).
The taxi companies must have quite a lobby in Cali.
California politicians instinctively push back against anything that offers people autonomy to make their own decisions.
Doesn’t this make every eBay seller an employee of eBay, too?
Idiots.
Damn right! Where’s my health insurance, eBay?
The Oakland Raiders have released Antonio Brown.
Free at last!
He’s a dope. Bye-bye, $30M guaranteed
He’ll be a Patriot by week 4.
As a Pats fan, that was my first thought.
However, I’m not sure even that disciplined culture can deal with AB.
But who knows – I probably would have said the same about Moss
Uber has repeatedly said if drivers were employees, it would “likely have to exert more control over drivers” and “would likely hire far fewer drivers than we currently support.” As much as that sounds like a threat, it also may be the truth. A 2017 economics paper co-authored by Uber researchers and John Horton of NYU argued Uber could do little to raise fares so long as it maintained an open market where drivers could come on and off as they pleased. The logical inversion was that for Uber to raise wages, it would have to close the market, limiting the number of drivers who could come on at any given time, and the hours they could work.
This is already proving the case in New York City, the only metro area to have set a pay floor for ride-hail drivers. After the pay floor took effect, both Lyft and Uber stopped accepting new drivers. Lyft also started giving priority to certain drivers, such as those who maintained especially high acceptance rates or who rented their vehicles directly from its Express Drive program, forcing other drivers off the road when demand is low.
Completely unanticipated.
And a ride to the airport is $70 dollars again. You’re welcome, citizens.
Looks like it’s time to replace the water softener. I’ve been reasonably happy with the old school Fleck controls, etc, but have any of You People tried the fancy Kinetico or non-salt types?
Our water is super fucking hard – like 30 gpg.