Yes, as the title says this is part 2 of the series. Yes, there was a part 1, not that anyone remembers… I blame excessive alcohol consumption round these parts. No, reading part 1 is not required, the content is independent, being mostly a picture thing. Originally it was just one post, but it seemed a bit big, so I decided to split it. So let’s get to it.
Bucharest can be a city of contrasts, like every other large city to be fair. New and old, rich and poor, pretty and ugly – mostly ugly, all mingle. The jumble can be more pronounced than in other places as the development was a bit haphazard, although I am not one who likes uniformity and dreams of streets where all buildings are almost identical. I like a bit of mishmash, or eclectic as I like to say.
Bucharest is split in 6 sectors, some better than others. I live in Sector 1, aka the best sector. It has most of the older and nicer areas of the city, has by far the most parks and green spaces and fewest brutalist apartment buildings. Plus the most tax money per capita in the budget, which meant a lot was stolen as it was easy to make the sector look better than the others and still have plenty left over for the old Swiss bank account.
You can see a good part of the history of the city if you know where to look. But it is not always easy, it was so thoroughly changed during the glorious years of communism that not much remain. You do not get the same sense of age like in other old cities, like Rome or Paris. Of course, being from the 1500s it is overall a lot younger. Just not that young.
Back in the day, the day being 1900, some people called it Little Paris, and some locals still do. I mean… whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night I guess. This, of course, was not due necessarily to significant resemblance between the cities, although we have an Arc de Triumph and late 19th century architecture was French inspired. It had more to do with the local economically successful crowd being great fans of French culture. This started after the revolution of 1848, when a bunch went to Paris into exile, and continued, to the point that French was the default language in polite society. Romanian was for the hoi polloi. Romania considered itself a “francophone country”. While the local higher education was burgeoning, a lot of people still went abroad for education, Germany for technical stuff and France for the liberal arts. But most of the old Bucharest is gone or rundown and swallowed by the ugly new.
Many of the Paris educated gentry often came back after a few years having conveniently forgot the Romanian language. The satirists of the day called it going to Paris an ox and returning a cow. Some of the uneducated tried to emulate the French speakers, but ended up altering Romanian words to what they though sounded French – a phrase was coined for this in Romanian – furculision – based on the Romanian word for table fork – furculița, frenchiefied.
This was somewhat paralleled in post-communist Romania by people who left to work – often menial jobs – abroad and returned with similar language amnesia. As many early leavers went to Italy – it was easier for them there, as Romanians did not have work permits for EU countries, but Italians can be a bit… flexible in the application of the law and there was plenty of work to be found “under the table”, cash money no taxes. The language was easy to pick up for Romanians, who before that only spoke bad Romanian. So after a few years of back breaking work in old Italy, people came back with some cash – by local standards – and a degree of snobbishness which led to similar forgetfulness of Romanian words, to the point in which the Italian phrase “come si dice” entered Romanian vernacular as irony and/or sarcasm.
The turning the words French bit was transformed in turning words English, the new lingua franca if you will. The most famous example of this was a former president who tried to say in English that the Dacians were a branch of the Thracians. In order to pluralize the Romanian words for Dacian, dac and Thracian, trac he simply added an s to the end and said “the dacs come from the tracs”, which came out as “the ducks come from the trucks” and much hilarity ensued, mainly due to the fact that he was the worst thing that could happen to post-communist Romania and people had little else to do than laugh.
Bucharest was rapidly industrialized and populated with the worker necessary to build to socialist multi-laterally developed utopia during communism. The building took the form of hideous brutalist architecture, in endless apartment blocks, crowded, badly insulated, and overall quite unpleasant. There are boulevards where there is a wall of buildings without any gaps between, probably made to channel crowds in controllable fashion. These were the houses of the factory workers. The communist apparatchiks, of course, did not live there. They took over the villas of the previously wealthy or middle class. It is hard work building equality, they deserved a better living standard then the masses. Some animals more equal than others, you see.
The previous rich and middle class were unceremoniously kicked out of their homes, along with many of the poor. Because, besides the party bigwig homes, there needed to be space for the shitty apartment buildings. The proles needed abodes as well. And to do that you needed to tear down the old buildings. Quite indiscriminately.
The neighborhood I live in is what I like to call liminal, because it is on the border between two different areas and also I like using the word liminal. Liminal… It does not even matter if I am using it correctly, so don’t bother commenting. If you were to build a triangle around my building, on one side is the beginning of an old wealthy area. This was one of the wealthiest since before communism, where the well off lived in nice and quite large houses on leafy streets. A lot of these were preserved to this day.
On the second side of the triangle is a front of communist apartment blocks, rising like a huge wall. Since communism, they had some polystyrene insulation added and a usually bad paint job.
On the third there are the old style, not too fancy houses that the pre-communist lower middle class lived in. These are generally single story or at most a couple of levels. Some still have the look of rural Romanian houses. These were the ones that were to be torn down should the communist dream have continued.
Now I have the chance to see what modern society alters. The expensive old villas and the communist blocks will not change any time soon, although every piece of land in those neighborhoods is being built with deluxe apartments.
What is changing is the area of the old not-so-fancy houses that escaped communist building schemes. They are, one by one, bit by bit, torn down and rebuilt. I assume it would also be accurate to say funeral by funeral, as many inhabitants are elderly who do not want to sell the house, or tear it down to rebuild, as they lived their entire life in it. So, mostly after they die, the heirs do something about it. Sell or rebuild or whatever.
The result of the modern building spurt is, to be diplomatic about it, quite eclectic. A lot of houses and building were built in Bucharest in the last 10-15 years, for people who became wealthy enough to escape the communist apartments. The plots of land were generally small and everyone built whatever they felt like, so there is no coherent model. This is good and bad, depending on whether you like uniformity.
Haphazard building led to a great contrast. Old houses, some up kept some not, with a random new house or small apartment building, stuck in the tiny spaces. The future … it remains to be seen. Or not, depending on the breaks. Also for some reason there seem to be a lot of magnolias in this city… And on that note
Those first 9 pictures (before the commie apartments) put me in mind of driving out of Boston and into Chestnut Hill. The transition are from city to affluent suburbs.
all the pictures are from like a 1 km radius from where I live, central Bucharest
It’s funny, but I grew up in RI and then Boston, and I had the same thought about it looking like the edges of either Providence or Boston, where you’re no longer in the “central” part of the city… more the “liminal” parts as they blend into less affluent areas… (See what you’ve done, Pie?!)
Whenever I look at communist architecture, it takes a while for it to sink in just how big and crammed full of tiny spaces those apartment blocs are.
I am not sure you can properly imagine how bad hey are. I mean you can imagine but not feel it deep down.
I’ve been in condemned army barracks. I’ll pass.
Hedrick Smith’s excellent book “The Russians” was required reading in AP Government. I remember him talking about some guy who finally got an apartment of his own and was asked whether he wanted one with a private bath, or one with a private kitchen. Was it the same thing there?
That finally explains This
mostly not . There were apartments for “nefamilisti” familie meaning family. These were the worse, given to single male factory workers. Some of these were like that.
My father managed to buy a nice one cause he took his time, two bedrooms, living room, kitchen, two bathrooms. And it was on a corner of the building with a nice view and windows on two sides, a big bonus. It was also extra freezing in winter when there was no heat, as in most times.
Everything you need is provided by the Party, Comrade Pie! The desire for warmth is bourgeois weakness.
Sometime I have to do a write up about my time sleeping in China. Mao evidently convinced the Chinese people that mattresses make for a “soft” people, so trying to find a box spring and mattress for an apartment – even with Ali Baba – was no mean feat, and that was only last year.
I’m extremely disappointed that this will be just about mattresses.
That requires special access to the VIP section of the site, HM. Q personally inspects and approves all of the pictures there.
You do the mattresses Q handles the pillows?
HEY NOW!
You are using it correctly, one of its meanings is to refer to something on a boundary.
You’re not my supervisor.
“one of its meanings is to refer to something on a boundary”
Indeed. Or a transitional state, like the heart of this chick.
Köszönöm, that’ll be stuck in my head for a while.
Was this a joke, or is there such a thing as “peasant” and “genteel” Romanian?
Also, a Tudor style house?
There are always sociolects, ie language features specific to a certain social strata. (Yeah, HM, I done paid attention in linguistics class.)
Someone gets an ‘A’ for today.
+ Public School English.
Cache me ouside we tok abou dat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/d9yer4/usage_of_dang_in_the_united_states/
Well, dang!
Tudor is a recognized architectural style based upon the style of structures prevalent in tudor england. it need not have been built during that time frame.
well there is proper, academic Romanian, there is low class Romanian, and whatever the moldovans speak.
I speak the queens Romanian, so to say, cause I am from Bucharest. My grandma often failed, for example, to use plural verbs for plural nouns.
And then there are the Szekelys, but proper Romanians do their best to ignore them.
I thought it was the Hungarians job to crap on the Szelklers?
It was, until Trianon, then Romania took them. No takes backs.
Unless you’re my great grandfather, who hated his fellow szeklers so much he moved four and a half thousand miles to get away from them, but he’s been dead for a while now do I think it’s back to being Romania’s problem.
“whatever the moldovans speak”
So, Moldova is the West Virginia of Romania?
they tend to have a more pronounce accent. Transylvanians also have an accent, but not as strong they just speak slower. drawl may be the americanese word.
the wort for cattle in Romanian is vita. there are moldovans that say it like hita with an h others like jita with a j. definitely not with a v .
Ironically, from the perspective of Latin, all the Romance languages are drawl-ed. Drawl is the psycholinguistic perception of vowel breaking. When one vowel sound becomes diphthongized or (triphthongized if phonologically possible in the language) there is the perception by monophthong dialect speakers that the word is being spoken more ‘slowly’.
Oh year well your face is triphthongized
So’s Winston’s mom.
Mmmmm….liminal. Thanks for that, Pie. I just skimmed but promise a more thorough reading later when I’m back from errands.
It’s fascinating for most Americans to hear about places that were places when our cities were forests or buffalo (bison) pastures. I live in Virginia, which was the first-settled part of English-speaking North America, but few surviving buildings from the 1600’s.
We have that cultural phenomena. People leave Louisiana in droves and take on various pretentious bullshit to pretend they aren’t from here. I have traveled around quite a bit. I guess I had a touch of that myself when I was younger but enough experience taught me that people are shitty everywhere. The people here aren’t worse than elsewhere and in many ways the culture s better. The food certainly is. The fishing certainly is.
Two stories come to mind.
More than one of my professors in college complained….complained mind you….that people here make them nervous. If they had a flat the first random stranger that came along would stop to help. A complete stranger….helping you? Unpossible!
I helped a guy with a flat within the last year…and another to get a jump start. They were very nervous the whole time until they were finally convinced I wasn’t trying some angle on them, that I didnt want anything.
My father was talking to a judge over in TX. He mentioned that legal pros all over the country laugh at Louisiana because the court system here is different but that after living all over the US he decided he liked Louisiana the best. The judge fished his car keys out of his pocket, held them up and jingled them. “Hop in, I will drive you to the border right now.” My father is a dummy. I would have taken him up on the offer.
Why would you stop the help sketchy people on the side of the road who are clearly planning to ambush you?
it is only an ambush if it is a hot chick
Flashback:
As a young Dean, probably still in high school, I was driving across New Mexico. In the middle of nowhere was a smoking hot girl, miniskirt and tight top, hitchhiking. Nobody else visible, no car, broken down or otherwise, in view.
I stepped on the gas. Male hormones be damned, no way I didn’t think that wasn’t a setup of some kind.
An Aerosmith video?
That’s a trap!
We haven’t had that sort of thing for a long time. It used to be a thing, now….not so much.
Remember, I live in the single most heavily armed jurisdiction in the country. Attempting highway robbery here is practically suicide.
My theory: There are a certain percentage of shitbags in every population. That percentage is about the same everywhere.
My solution: Live in the sticks so you bump into fewer of them.
Isn’t the concept of legal precedent nonexistent in LA?
IMHO, legal precedent is a major flaw in our legal system. One asshole gets it wrong and we all gotta live with it for eternity? I don’t see why it’s necessary. Can’t you simply judge each case on the law and Constitution as written rather than how similar it is to some other case where the judge may have been an activist? I think LA got this right.
Louisiana’s legal system is a legacy of the French legal system, not the English.
IMHO, legal precedent is a major flaw in our legal system.
It is a legacy of English common law. It allows for bottom up incremental development of the law, rather than top-down legislative imposition of the law. Increasingly, common law has been displaced by legislation. Pretty sure I’m not happy with the results.
Without recognizing some binding precedent, the law becomes more inconsistent, arbitrary, unpredictable, and unreliable (in the sense that you can’t rely on it to make decisions).
I don’t want courts and lawyers adding their .02 to what is legislated. I certainly don’t want “incremental development of the law”. I want the law to be the law. Black and white, so I know what is legal and what is not so that I can make decisions accordingly. What we have now is, “Well, we don’t really know if it’s legal or not because no one has set precedent yet.”
No offense. I realize it’s your bread and butter and you need to color inside the lines.
But, of all the things wrong with this country right now, a large portion of them stem from a legal system that makes it up as it goes. It’s unresponsive, slow and politically motivated at the expense of individual liberty. I really don’t see why each case cannot be judged upon its merits alone. LP may make punishments more fair, but it also slowly (maybe not so slowly) undermines our liberty in favor of a police state.
A quick example: How many common criminals are being prosecuted under laws put in place for terrorists, because some lawyer decides to argue that stealing a candy bar amounts to a terrorist act? And, if successful, all future candy bar thieves are labeled terrorists.
I get why LP exists. I really don’t think consistency in sentencing makes up for the damage it causes elsewhere.
I’ve been thinking a lot about this recently and I have a question for you RC… In your professional opinion, could a better system be devised? Do we adhere English common law because it’s the best system or because “that’s the way we’ve always done it?”
At it’s heart, Common Law is by definition “The way we’ve always done it”
The issues you raise are results of the move away from common law, not results of common law. Common law does not work by single legal decisions changing everything. It works the opposite way, by looking at all the prior cases in which the issues presented have been decided, not just judicial decisions, but jury verdicts as well. It is distributed democracy at its best. Common law is not the Supremes creating complicated statutes out of a bad case. We have perverted common law, mixed in confusing and deliberately vague statutes, and a massive dollop of administrative agency regulation.
A quick example: How many common criminals are being prosecuted under laws put in place for terrorists? Because some lawyer decides to argue that stealing a candy bar amounts to a terrorist act?
What you are complaining about isn’t common law. That is a statute written by legislators that is overbroad and applied as written. Legislation is what creates the really big expansions of government power; you would never get anything like the Patriot Act out of a common law system without years or decades of slow evolution. Legislation is centralized authority; common law is devolved authority.
Do we adhere English common law because it’s the best system or because “that’s the way we’ve always done it?”
What’s left of the common law is mostly vestigial at this point, as it has been almost entirely displaced by legislation. Court decisions about how that legislation is applied have precedential value, but I think that supports consistency and predictability, which have value (I would say great value) in and of themselves in a legal system.
At it’s heart, Common Law is by definition “The way we’ve always done it”
it is fundamentally conservative, as in, give us a good reason to change something just for you.
This is for all of you.
Okay, good slap-down on my, clearly inadequate perceptions of “common law”, however I’m more interested looking at the concept of legal precedent.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Lawyer Bob will argue that Lawyer Joe, in an entirely different but similar case, successfully argued that the interpretation of given legislation is X, and therefore X should be used in his case. Legal Precedent, yes?
So what if Joe and his judge are wrong? What if that judge had an overly liberal interpretation? What if Joe’s judge had a political agenda? Must Bob’s judge use the same interpretation as Joe’s just cuz Joe was first? The way I understand it (not a lawyer) is yes. And if so, it’s the equivalent of legislating from the bench, no?
I suppose if both courts were allowed to make their own interpretation as to the meaning of the law, you could argue that some folks would go to prison when they shouldn’t and some folks would go free when they shouldn’t, but isn’t that better than everyone goes to prison because the first guy fucked up the interpretation?
Is LA’s system putting people away when they shouldn’t because they don’t follow LP?
Interested in your thoughts
I am not sure how you best minimize bad decisions. Precedent is about consistency, and I agree that consistency with prior error is idiocy, but any argument or rule that avoids that can equally be used to rule badly against prior good decisions. This is getting into Wittgenstein territory. Rules cannot be written to avoid all interpretation, judgment always enters in.
I see it the same way I see warfare. Criminal law always allows for abuse, just as warfare always leads to death and destruction, so the answer I come to is minimize both. War only when necessary to protect yourself. Only outlaw actions that directly harm others. NAP basically. I’d argue the precedent point more except I think both sides have merit.
A little background on precedent:
Traditionally, trial court decisions have no precedential value. In reality, trial judges, especially in the same jurisdiction tend to stay more or less in line with each other.
Appellate decisions have precedential value in a couple of ways. First, they are binding within their jurisdiction on lower courts, and effectively almost binding on the court that issued them, although that court can always overrule itself and change direction. They are not binding on other appellate courts at the same level, although they usually have what is called persuasive value, as the legal system values consistency. They are not binding or even theoretically persuasive for higher courts, although there is a certain reluctance to overturn lower courts.
Also, the only part of a court decision that sets precedent is the part that is necessary to decide the issues presented. Everything else is dicta .
You posit a court that got a ruling wrong. The precedential scope of that ruling is limited (see above). A court in another jurisdiction is free to rule however it wants on that issue.
Quantity counts, as well. A single decision is all well and good, but judges like to see multiple decisions that reach the same result.
Common law is a source of law like legislation is a source of law. You could call it legislating from the bench, but you have to keep in mind how narrow most court decisions are. What we deride as legislation from the bench are broad decisions, ideally ones that rewrite statutes (gay marriage comes to mind).
Thanks. That gives me some more to think about.
@Pie and Jarflax
From a cursory search it seems the commonalities between “grind” and “tocilar” are coincidental and probably just result from a basic human metaphor that most likely arose in many cultures observing that sharpening blades with a whetstone is dull work. (Pun intended)
According to the Online Etymology Dictionary, the use of “grind” to mean applying one’s self to rigorous memorization and learning by rote only first appears in 1864, which is quite late if there was some common proto-IE semantic root going on.
I did not expect you to see that comment from Jarflax as you did not seem to be in the thread… but i suspected it was just a coincidence. i think the word is slavic in origin.
I was made aware of it by a fellow demi-
godGlib.Someone is only half-glib? Does the one-drop rule apply?
You are only pure Glib if you both comment and contribute.
Sounds like a Glib supremeacist statement.
I thought it was like highlander.
THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE GLIBERTARIAN!
Tulpa?
I kind of figured it was a conceptual parallel not linguistic, but those are interesting as well.
I must admit a soft spot in my heart for Brutalism (along with Bauhaus and International), though I recognize in some milieux that “Brutalism” basically equals “Communism” and the associated distaste.
Sigh… I feel the same way about Socialist realism. The work is beautiful and soul-touching but was for such a evil purpose.
You must be the only person in America who likes The MLK Jr. Memorial in DC.
When are they going to finish it?
When we pay off our Chinese debt.
Right after the Crazy Horse memorial?
Not to worry. As MLK gets unpersoned, it will be removed. Bonus irony points if chains are used.
Well, it has been decreed that his quote “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character” is quite problematic and probably racist.
Yeah, that is every proggie’s nightmare.
It really is. I forget who it was a while back but someone (Charlie Kirk, maybe?) said to random proggies that affirmative action/intersectionality was wrong because people should be judged by the content of their character, and not by the color of their skin, and then the REEEEing commenced.
i hate the fucking thing.
I am with you. I see brutalist architecture or socialist realism propaganda and I get queasy. Too much association with evil and misery.
The propaganda art I like.
Brutalist architecture I loathe. It is oppression in (literally) concrete form.
I also. Noble visage turned, eyes fixed on the future makes me think of families kneeling next to a ditch.
Your aesthetic runs towards thicc and bottom heavy, and a man of your renowned tastes would be undeterred at applying such a vision to all forms of artistic appreciation regardless of their medium of implementation, from booty to brick.
That’s a keen observation.
“From Booty to Brick – A Journey in Thicc”
Wherever finer books are sold?
Catchy title.
You missed your calling Swiss.
NY Post headline writer?
“Booty and Brick Labeled Thicc”
Needs a stronger brick shithouse pun somehow.
really?
Yeah. I think it’s part nostalgia as my childhood memories have the 1970s to early 1980s Brutalist buildings of New York and Boston as a backdrop.
I never pictured you sitting upon an Ikea couch, setting your feet upon an Ikea table…
…Now that I did, I can’t say I find it all that disturbing.
+ 1 teabag
GUILTY!
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/10/01/breaking-jury-finds-guyger-guilty-murder-wrong-apartment-shooting/
Good. She should rot in a cell for the rest of her days.
I haven’t read too much into it…but as far as being in the wrong apartment and shooting, did he have the exact same furnishings and artwork as her apartment?
No, but she claimed it was dark.
But the floor plan was the same?
One of those buildings needs a haircut.
And decided to shoot when she couldn’t see?
She said dude was coming towards her out of dark and she feared for her life. Whether this was reasonable to shoot him is central question.
Jury says no.
But not on the red welcome mat she was standing on, which didn’t exist at her place.
I don’t think she did it.
She was framed!!
Did anyone check the grassy knolls?
She had everything going for her, too. Blonde, young, LEO. If that doesn’t spell “Not Guilty” I don’t know what does.
You only have to buy one juror
I’m wondering if we are seeing a shift in the general perception of cops.
The jury could have went Manslaughter but said NAH, Murder….
It is the Texas way.
Thank God. I was legitimately convinced the bitch would get off completely, or at least they’d give her manslaughter instead.
I’d expect the judge to go light, perhaps more in line with a manslaughter verdict. If she does, though, there will be a lot of people who will wonder whether Guyger gets mercy for being white, being a cop, or being a white cop.-
There is one more modifier that will get her a lighter sentence. Can you spot it?
Pussy pass.
Damn your nimble fingers! Though I wouldn’t have put it so eloquently.
Cunte Card ?
Correct. You also get credit, GT.
This comment is an example of the pass in question.
Triangle side #2 looks like an urban planner’s wet dream.
Thanks, Pie. We need more examples such as you have provided, ref: the tranquility and forward thinking of commieland. On the other hand I saw St Paul (the town in our local socialist heaven), in a couple of the pictures.
I was at a local townhall meeting and was arguing against zoning laws, one of the supervisors shouted me down with, “We can’t have people building whatever they want”.
I like the pix with the power lines, sometimes modernization comes with an aesthetic price. Good article
“We can’t have people building whatever they want”.
I have to agree with that. Easy solution: Whoever pays the property tax decides what gets built. Sound like a fair compromise?
Yes we can. It’s none of your business what other people do with their property.
I have had to get 3 variances, over the years. Strangely all were approved, after I paid the fee, appeared before the zoning board and with a minimum of explanation. Apparently the original zoning was wrong.
It was all about the fees and continued employment for the zoning board members.
Sometimes people find creative ways to get around zoning/building codes.
My neighbor growing up was an engineer who tinkered a lot and needed some extra workshop space. He built a second garage about three feet away from the house, but then the city told him that he needs a gauntlet of new permits for a second building on the property. He got around it by “attaching” it to the house with a little brick archway so that they were technically the same structure. It looks pretty nice, too.
They pitch the restrictions by scaring Grandma that a tire incinerator fueled bordello and trap range is going in next door. Then apply them to nix you letting your adult kid live over the garage, or force you to put in a $25k ‘period’ fence instead of the chain link that actually confines your pet. Bait and switch is a favorite Government tactic.
To be fair, the sulfur emissions from the burning tires do diminish the bordello experience.
Go with a hellfire theme and let the
brimstonefirestone add to the atmosphere.No. I’ve read Dante, thankyouverymuch.
Good pun tho.
Unless you are going for the post-apocalyptic themed bordello you are correct.
Raider’s Roadhouse?
Marauder’s Mattresses?
Bombshell Shelter?
Funder Dome
The plots of land were generally small and everyone built whatever they felt like, so there is no coherent model. This is good and bad, depending on whether you like uniformity.
“Haphazard” good, uniformity bad.
I have spoken.
ZARDOZ, is that you?
So, umm, that traffic sign – are you supposed to drive into the ground there? Or make a sharp turn and exit the circle almost immediately?
well i think that sign is not in its original position
keep in mind these are only the nice parts of Bucharest, including the commie blocks. most is worse. i dont want to give the wrong idea…
http://www.fotografieaeriana.eu/img-oferte/Panorama-aeriana-Rahova-perspectiva-dinspre-Sebastian-colt-cu-13-Septembrie–3471542163_0_huge.jpg
Looks like someone spilled a box of gray legos everywhere.
Looks like Korea or China.
The old parts of China post WW2 and Korean building from the 60’s. A little color goes along way to transforming the appearance. My area looks like they had a sale on white house paint and aluminum siding in 1952.
https://www.flickriver.com/photos/hankrogers/5850594093/#large
A little color goes along
Exactly: Poland and eastern Germany are much less scary-commie now that most things have a contemporary coat of paint. Purple and gray bridges and municipal structures threw me for a loop, but I guess that all the surplus they had in the Moscow catalogues.
But I understand: it is only recently that Southerners ran out of red WPA lead paint. Everything except houses was painted shithouse red for decades, and it was good stuff: kept the bugs away forever. Nowadays most of those older edifices have succumbed to gravity or have been eaten by kudzu.
My house is white vinyl siding, but I would paint it in a minute if possible. The rest of my house inside is very colorful in comparison.
HOA? or no money to spare for paint?
I would have to paint the siding (possible but not advised or replace it. My cheapness is overruling my aesthetics.
I would not spend the time or money to paint vinyl.
We put yellow Hardie Board on ours. It’s labeled something like “cream” but it’s a lovely yellow. I love yellow houses with black shutters and white trim.
So you’re the one that keeps driving past my place ?
Yep.
DAMN YOU! ITS IN MY HEAD!
/sksksksk
/and i oop
Except, sometimes, the paint.
Ever been wandering around an overgrown house, and all the porch boards are gone, but the paint’s still there, especially what was deliberately between the boards?
exactly correct
A little color goes along way…
That’s what all the white supremacists say.
We just repainted our house. The HOA approved the paint color just before the job was finished. It is kind of a sand color – looks kinda yellow, but has a surprising amount of gray in it. I believe it was made with powdered $20 bills, going by what it cost. At least it blends into the landscape very nicely.
you can see color here in the pics. the thing now is insulation, so they cover commie buildings in polystyrene and give them a paint job.
https://www.infocs.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Blocuri-colorate-9.jpg
Its not often I see a building in Pepto Pink.
Oh, in case Pie has no idea what I am referring to Pepto
This kind of building is called a Khrushchevka in Russia. I think they are being systematically demolished in Moscow but have survived elsewhere.
The polystyrene is on the exterior???
I am imagining what a building fire must be like
No need to imagine.
*sigh*
So close, yet so very far.
This is what I get for reading through dozens of comments before responding….
Grenfell tower.
That’s what happened here, right?
Grenfell Tower
Talk about soul-crushing…
The scars of socialism on the skyline.
This gives me flashbacks to Moscow in the 90s.
If you read any travelogues from pre 1900 about eastern European cities, and then look at post commie pictures it is enough to make you doubt the beauty of socialism.
I was at a local townhall meeting and was arguing against zoning laws, one of the supervisors shouted me down with, “We can’t have people building whatever they want”.
That’s how we know it’s a democracy. People do as they are told by the government.
Ahh. He’s like the villain from the Lego movie.
i dont want to give the wrong idea…
Eek. “All of these apartments look the same” is a pretty compelling defense.
It’s also racist.
I appreciate the article Pie. Though I, invariably, end up spending too much time on Google street view looking at stuff in Bucharest.
I was looking at the city I used to live in looking for the hospital that made me think medicine when I sww brutalist architecutre.
@Swissy from other thread (sorry everybody!)
In re my ultimatum to God:
I know it’s not, but I do feel that there had to be some breaking point within me that said, “I am open to possibilities now and widening my vision,” which is what allowed me to see past my own expectations.
Got it.
i am not sure putting ice on my shoulder impingement helps much
Yeah, dude. You want warmth.
doc said ice to reduce inflammation.
Yeah, well doctors also say don’t do coke.
Fuck doctors.
I mostly agree. I did not like this doctor anyway. Gonna get an mri and a second opinion. He also told me to imobilize my arm in a sling but i did not do that
If you can take an anti-inflammatory like aspirin or ibuprofen that should help, too. Lots of water and easy on the booze, though, because they can be hard on kidneys and/or liver after awhile.
I am taking something called vimovo and something called mydocalm
mydocalm sounds like a PMS treatment
Curse your speedy typing!
He’s bloody fast.
PieInTheSky on October 1, 2019, 01:55 PM
Jarflax on October 1, 2019, 02:22 PM
Y’allins is slooow.
Isn’t vimovo one of those ‘youtube alternatives’ running around?
I’ve heard (due to various problems I’ve had with strained body parts) ice to reduce inflammation for the first 24 hours, then warmth after that to promote blood flow and healing.
That’s what I follow.
DMSO is wonderful to promote healing. If your liver can handle it- i.e. no drinking.
Which is why I no longer use DMSO.
DMSO? Aren’t those the girls who say “sksksksksk”?
Does that work if it has been hard for more than 4 hours?
Pie, I appreciate the variety of buildings and architecture in the old city center. Are there issues maintaining or renovating the really old buildings due to the excessive costs or craftsmanship/skills no longer available?
not really. especially since many are owned by rich people. the problems is when some want to build bigger things but no not receive government permission to tear down the old so they let them become derelict to then be able to tear them down.
Here we also have “historic preservation districts” which are areas where you are very restricted with what you can do to the interior or exterior of any house deemed to be historic. Basically it’s a bunch of architecture snobs and busybodies who like to tell others what to do with their own property, and empowered by government to do so.
Ah, we have the Historical Society. In downtown Annapolis, once a building is declared “historic”, i.e. old, you have to abide by a whole host of requirements before you do any work on it. The result is that most of the commercial buildings have all kinds of electrical issues but the owners can’t afford to have them brought up to code because of the additional brouhaha required. At least three have burnt down in the past fifteen years.
But at least they stayed “Authentic” until they caught fire.
/”preservationist”
The real beauty of those societies is when you own the one absolute pile of crap, desperately in need of rehab, house in one. And the geniuses won’t let you fix it because then it won’t be ‘authentic’. A client of mine owned half a duplex that was made from a converted barn. It was hideous, broken down 40 year old aluminum siding, rotted window frames and sashes, crooked stairs etc. My client was told that they had to use authentic period materials to rehab. In other words they could either:
1. leave it an absolute shithole with broken down 1960s era aesthetics
or
2. spend literally 5 times the value of the property ‘restoring’ a building that was built as a barn to match the kitschy 1890s rivertown image of the town
spending a reasonable amount making it a nice looking rental property was illegal. I hate HOAs, historical societies, and zoning commissions.
As someone who absolutely loves historical buildings, I fucking hate the government forcing homeowners to abide by those ridiculous rules.
You think something is historical and worth preserving? Buy it yourself and ask for donations from like-minded people.
Heh yes. Our church is in such a district of old buildings. Most homeowners long ago covered the old exterior wood with siding. When the Historical Society comes around to complain, the homeowners ask them if they’ll be funding the stripping of the lead paint off 200-year-old wood and the restoration. When the Society says “no” they are invited to fuck off.
The church has finally gotten the go-ahead to reside with siding that looks like freshly painted old wood.
also 30 yeas after commies feel there is still some litigation over who gets some properties.
Pie, I really really loved this. Thank you!
That means there is industry and money flowing. Good! I see cranes. Cranes mean industry.
@Not Adahn
I thought the same thing!
There is also that lovely Mediterranean-style house. I am a rube. I thought it would be OLD and UNIFORM like Paris. I suppose I should have thought there would be much brutalism.
Some of the pictures actually reminded me a tiny bit of New Orleans French Quarter.
GROSS. There is some I can tolerate, but mostly it just gives me the willies and slight nausea.
There is to much building. I smell a bubble
“I smell a bubble”
You did say they built the city on a swamp, right?
*runs from room*
A song which is perhaps better illustrative of a liminal state than my previous link.
great song
Picture #3 — The Continental Bucharest?
“Some animals more equal than others, you see.”
I am glad Pie is literate enough to have read Ray Bradbury’s Martian Chronicles!
I did, in the original russian
Thanks Pie, I enjoyed both parts. Fifteen years ago I drove through Romania coming from Istanbul and heading back to Amsterdam in a right hand drive Skoda station wagon (actually not a bad car, looked like a Suburu). The brutalist architecture was damn harsh in places, I remember a city there somewhere in the west of the country where most of the place was in that anti human style. It gives a strong sense of the communist project to destroy the individual. I could well imagine what it may have been like 20 years previously. It would be nice to have a city somewhere where all the commies could live together in these buildings and get a small taste of the joys of their preferred system. A sort of anti-Disneyland if you will.
I loved the mountains and countryside scenery there though. Really pretty.
When I was first walking in Montreal I saw this hideous, creepy, oppressive building. It was of course, a government building — a courthouse.
Visit the Federal Courthouse in Albany. The anti-pigeon spikes on the eagle give a warm and fuzzy feeling to the facade.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g155032-d186130-r154749503-Palais_de_Justice-Montreal_Quebec.html
I work at this monstrosity. Yes, it’s a government building.
What’s the fun of having your jackbooted foot stomping a human face forever if you can’t visually intimidate the proles when they come to petition you for permission to live.
Submitted w/o comment-
Gretta Thunberg sings Swdish Death Metal.
Holy….Shit….
…That was awesome!
TURN IT TO 11 !
Her facial expressions… holy shit.
Noice!
That’s hilarious, but it’s also the first time I could handle watching part of her speech, and I find the real aspect of this to be terribly depressing.
They played (and criticized, lambasted, and parodied) parts of her speech on the Lions of Liberty podcast. It was worse than I could have imagined. She has absolutely nothing of substance to say. It’s a naked appeal to emotion. Fuck the adults who are brainwashing her into doing this.
This was a nice reprieve from work. Thanks Pie!
OT: Wow, I am truly shocked. It ain’t very often that California passes a new law that I agree with. Weed legalization was the last time it happened and even that had some crony aspects that I didn’t much like. I can’t seem to find much I disagree with Governor Greaseball here. And Richard Sherman is hopefully correct. Fuck the NCAA.
https://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Richard-Sherman-California-NCAA-athlete-pay-law-14483383.php
I’m curious: Do college athletes have to declare the value of their scholarship as income? If not, why not?
I’d imagine not. They probably should be though if you believe that all sources of income should be taxed. I am of the belief that no sources of income should be taxed. Presently though college athletes are, unlike other scholarship receivers, unable to gain income from their talent. If you receive say an academic scholarship and in your free time take a job at the university library or use your skills to land a job you get to receive what the market says.
The IRC starts with the assumption that everything is taxable before layering in exceptions.
If a college athlete is talented enough to go pro, they can immediately gain income from their talent. Unlike other scholarship recipients, they don’t necessarily require a degree for their pursuits.
For the record, I do think it is a terrible system depending on the sports, but ultimately this is a contract. None of these athletes are forced to sign anything without knowing what they are getting themselves into, or that their college education is their compensation.
There are people out there who think that every other person is just a dumb fucking lemming being led around by forces beyond their understanding. These people think it’s their divine purpose to prod everyone else into making the “correct” decisions.
It’s California. It’s the same state where a winery was running a program where people could come participate in the winemaking process for their own education and entertainment, and the state shut it down because it was “uncompensated labor”. Never mind that most of them were rich people, some of whom even flew in on private jets. “Progressive” Leftism is diametrically opposed to any kind of free choice.
I was born in California and used to think it would be cool to move back, but not since I became an adult. Fuck that state.
Portion for room and board is generally taxable.
Seems the IRS is taking the position that the education is basically valueless.
Hard to argue.
Was there a previous law preventing students from earning money, or is California dictating the terms of a contract it is not a party to? I have no problem with these athletes earning any money they can get, but I also have no problem with the schools/leagues keeping things amateur if they so choose, and it sounds like California is putting its finger on the scales in favor of one outcome over the other.
NCAA regs prohibit students from hiring agents, being paid for endorsements etc. To call them a contract is stretching definitions.
Have you seen what the kid signs, when they take the scholarship….it is contract. And not a short one.
A contract that cannot be negotiated, that regulates every economic decision you can make on or off the field, that is drafted by a quasi governmental body with a legislatively backed monopoly on the field the kid is entering. I get where you are coming from, but this system stinks.
I don’t buy into the idea that college athletes are being mercilessly exploited by college athletic programs, but I also don’t see why a college athlete shouldn’t be able to monetize their likeness or earn endorsements just because they’re “amateur” athletes.
They pass that up to gain access to the NCAA.
Well, what I mean is I don’t see a moral conundrum there. They’re already paying some college athletes in tuition, so I don’t fully buy the amateur status. But then again, if the NCAA is running the game, then the NCAA makes the rules. There’s nothing stopping Trevor Lawrence from applying for an academic scholarship and playing football in an amateur local football league.
Maybe the next good CA law will be about solving the bum/vagrant problem. hahaha…yeah, nevermind. Sigh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSG800M8n9c&feature=youtu.be
In the 21st Century it’s too much to ask for people who claim to believe in “less government” to be even a little suspicious of the intelligence community. In five years time, I’m sure suggesting that in order to say you’re opposed to big government you need to include the intelligence community in your criticism will be angrily denounced as a “purity test”. I remember when this was used as a criticism of conservatives.
Anyways, at least there are elements on the Left who are not enamored with the intelligence community. Yet another reason why voting Green is actually more of a vote for “less government” then any vote for the LP nowadays.
Voting for the Green Party with your beliefs would be voting for your own oppression. Of course that’s already the case with the other parties but it’s all a matter of degree.
Yes and No. Voting LP is basically voting for hawkish Republicans now, if we’re being honest.
RINOs at best. The hawkish thing is both parties these days (since the foe isn’t communism any more)
The hawkish thing is more Democrats and the LP today than Republicans today. Bill Kristol and his merry band of assholes are welcomed into the LP with open arms and furious masturbating by Reason.
Harry Browne, we hardly knew ye.
The last good LP presidential nominee. He would be called a Trump apologist today for disbelieving the intelligence community
Depends on what you think the biggest problem is, and whether you vote for or vote against.
Spending: You got nobody cutting spending. The Dems are universally proposing multi-trillion dollar spending programs.
Gun control: You got nobody deregulating guns. The Dems are universally proposing either a ratcheting increase in gun laws, or just outright confiscation.
Overweening administrative state: Trump’s your guy. The Dems are universally proposing massive expansions.
Out of control intelligence agencies: Maybe the Greens, maybe Trump. The Ukraine kerfuffle looks like an intel community op. If so, and if it pisses him off, it could be Trump again.
Overseas entanglements: Tulsi’s your gal. Everybody else seems pretty status quo.
Immigration: If you want it deregulated, any of the Dems. If you don’t want automatic welfare enrollment when you cross the border, none of the Dems. I’m not even sure how to characterize Trump any more, other than “build a wall” and “no economic refugees”.
Spending and the administrative state hands down. Trump talks about draining the swamp, but I’m not seeing much progress. The Dems love the swamp more than a wild hog with dry skin. The LP went all in on pot and apparently thinks fighting against the swamp distracts from getting a good buzz. The Greens are straight communists. Tulsi? Nice ass, loves her some Gubmint.
FUCK ALL Y’ALL, CUT SPENDING!
I’m old enough to remember when opposing the Patriot Act, opposing overseas entanglements, and distrusting the men who are paid to lie was consistent with less government.
None of these things have anything to do with the modern and newly woke LP
Medicare for all pretty much ends any pretense of limits on Government power or spending. Sorry, If I have to choose between continuing the neocon wars and medicare for all, Afghanistan is just going to have to deal.
OK. And that’s a fair choice to make. But, just know that stopping the government from intruding into your healthcare decisions (even more so than they already do) will do nothing to stop them from intruding into your phone calls.
The reality is that this is less about overseas conflicts and more about expanded domestic surveillance with the overseas conflicts used as justification.
Your not going to hear the next LP nominee giving two shits about that. Just like the nominee didn’t give two shits about that in 2016, 2012, and 2008. That’s the reality.
I have repeatedly said the LP is off the table for me and has been for years. If I am voting for unprincipled pieces of idiotic crap I’m voting for someone who can win. Tulsi is better than the other Dems, but she is Kerensky to their Lenin. I’m not voting for Kerensky.
Yes, calling for mild tax cuts is equivalent to wanting less government. Blindly supporting the intelligence community is consistent with wanting less government. OK, you’re a conservative now.
I’m still a little skeptical that Tulsi would actually end the wars. It wouldn’t be the first time a Democrat ran on ending wars and didn’t live up to it.
Horton’s law…….Politicians only come through on their worst campaign promises.
https://original.antiwar.com/scott/2019/07/29/tulsi-gabbards-chance-to-make-the-race-about-the-wars/
Horton has had kind things to say about Tulsi
You can have someone who has no history of opposing any military intervention abroad, ever, and speaks little to nothing about drone warfare and domestic intelligence gathering. Or you can have someone who opposed military interventions even when their party was in the White House and supported a senator from the opposing party when he filibustered against the Patriot Act’s renewal.
Your first option was Gary Johnson/ Weld 2016. The other option is Tulsi by herself.
Doesn’t seem like a hard choice if the “less government” mantra meant something more than reducing your marginal tax rate.
Thanks for the link
Today in Progjection:
Eric Holder on 2020 Election: ‘Republicans Are Going to Cheat’
“They are going to ‘find’ boxes of missing ballots in the trunks of cars…..no, wait, that’s what we do”
They’re going to try to
keep people away from the pollsask for ID to prevent people from illegally voting for DemocratsFixed
When Trump said that in 2016, the wailing was cacophonous.
Man, you aren’t kidding about the projection. Also, remember when Eric Holder decided that nobody needs military-style assault weapons…except Mexican drug cartels?
The one election where people generally agree (?) that there was fraud was Chicago in 1960. And that was the Dems.
Thanks for sharing, Pie.
This is amusing.
Helga with the tractor to the rescue!
I like the way she just kept after it even after it had toppled over.
“Damn you, beverage cart! Damn you to Hell!”
Since this is a repost from the Late Shift, I don’t feel bad about reposting this response.
https://youtu.be/7KvxOuC7Bhc
Where are all the links of Bulgarian hotties that get approached on the streets and offered gobs of money to let someone film them being gang banged?
I thought that genre specialized in Czechs.
Hungary, I thought
They make me hungry.
Bulgaria?
Wait, I have a different answer:
In your browser history?
Dallas Cop guilty of murder.
Did she shoot herself in the . . . . oh, never mind.
..and then drugs fell out
I started to do this above with the Greta death metal repost, and yeah… consider memes posted
I don’t think a single repost deserves a meme bombardment. Its probably when we get four or five reposts in a day or two that we should put assets over the target.
I think it’s the 3rd or 4th actually
I missed the others.
I gotta say, the more footage I see of her, the worse I feel for her.
I think the others are in the early day’s post
Seriously?
I couldn’t bring myself to listen to it without it being in a death metal voice, and even so all I can think is that the adults who failed this girl are her parents first and foremost. They’re supposed to be the people ultimately on her side, looking out for her interests. It looks like they’re using her as a child actress to make speaking fees instead. It’s disgusting.
Oh….for Greta….I get it now. I thought you were talking about sexy-texty McShooterton
Yeah, Greta.
I got nuthin’ for the killer cop.
No way
I blame excessive alcohol consumption round these parts
It’s like you are looking right into my soul.
I like the tour of Bucharest, thanks!