I didn’t have a eureka moment. I didn’t get fed up with a political party. A well-read child of resourceful, simple, and hard-working parents who had escaped generations of small, impoverishing family farms, my first notion was always independence. Before any formal concept of agency, utility, or property ever washed into an ear, I knew I valued my own counsel above all others, and my strongest urge and desire was simply to be left alone.
We moved around a lot for Dad’s work until I was nine. Over the years I went to school, to church, to everything expected save prom. I dressed like my farmer uncles and ignored top 40 and drugs. We were quiet Primitive Baptists and as such unmoved by many worldly notions; particularly, we rejected religious bureaucracy, hierarchy in the church, and evangelism; we had no catechism, no articles or rules save the King James Version, and often shared a preacher amongst our rare and remote congregations. My first social organization was based on individual interpretation and responsibility.
Early on, I was forced to lead a prayer in school a full decade after Engel in the civilized place (Tennessee) in which we finally landed, far away from the redneck places and institutions I thought I had escaped. Maybe I could have objected, but the expectation was clear and direct, and the unanimous opinion of my peers meant that I had finally landed in a situation from which there was no retreat. The task was easy enough and not unpleasant; I merely resented being forced, being put upon, and not being left alone. I began to cultivate a distrust of institutions and the force they could wield.
From this I launched into a childhood a bit defensive and cautious, my clannish hill instincts mixing poorly in the factory towns my father was transferred betwixt. He was a produce clerk, decent and humble, so Christmas only came once a year at our house, and I learned to jealously hoard and defend every crumb and opportunity. I never learned to loan or share as a child, and I dug emotional fallback trenches for every possible social situation that life in town might thrust upon me. I preferred rifles, guitars, spinning reels, engines and, eventually, a tiny blonde thing from Kansas, but mostly I liked reliable devices that didn’t have opinions, and I spent most of my free time with a trusted few, mostly in the field with rod or gun. I kept my pocketknife razor keen, earned my merit badges, and paid my speeding tickets quietly.
Whence money: waxing store floors on second shift, mowing yards, pizza delivery, shoveling snow, fry cook, farm hand, electrician’s mate. Money meant more independence, and I loved it more than words can describe, much more than free time after school. Money also meant deserving the blonde thing who, amazingly, had a humbler situation than mine. I had always identified with farmers and merchants, and, the more I knew of work and money, the more respect I had for proprietors and the more contempt I had for regulation. I learned there were federal rules and minimums for most things, and it all seemed silly to me: my employment was an arm’s length transaction between me and my boss, and no other opinions were needed.
So I strained at the bit in some ways . . . . and just didn’t care in others. My hair grew to my shoulders and I seldom shaved. I learned that homosexuality and interracial marriage existed . . . . and could find no reason to care the way all the adults exhibited that I should care: that these things were morally wrong and there ought to be a law. Mostly I hated speed limits and not being able to shoot inside the city limits. I hated how a cop asked me stupid questions about where I worked while he wrote out my ticket, but I loved how he got enraged when I refused to answer, when I just glared at him while he got hysterical and tried to bluff me into submission. People and institutions needlessly meddling in others’ lives put me off, and I never got over it. A flavor of #resist became my base assumption and attitude when I wasn’t on the clock, and I eventually started to notice that government operations were seldom executed to serve and protect . . . and began to constantly ask myself to guess the true motives of those actors. This was the beginning of my suspicion that I would generally be better off and happier with less government.
I didn’t like a lot of other things going on around me outside of government, either. Racism and littering were normal in my culture, but I knew they were wrong, so I figured out that adults were often unethical and hypocritical. Uncles came back from VietNam with no report of triumph or purpose, neighbors in turn defended and abandoned Nixon, farms failed, and neighbors’ cars were repossessed. Interest rates soared, and I kept to my books and learned to drive a tractor and to string barbed wire.
You’d think this sort of environment would have made me a conservative, but few of the conservatives I knew outside my quiet church fell into the live-the-example version of virtue; most were of the bluster and control version, and it seemed like their only goal was to make kids obey the very rules that their parents had mostly skipped. Abortion was a hot issue with the Catholics, but my people tended to simply marry a girl if love brought along a child a few months before the acceptable plan. I never had any problems interpreting the operating instructions for a condom, so abortion was just a quiet problem that other people had. That said, my instinct was and remains that a woman should figure out what was appropriate for her: it’s not a government panel’s responsibility. I took good care of my own business, and the Kansas blonde would need to move on to less responsible men before bundles would come into her life. It never occurred to me to push my opinion in this area on others much less codify it, but I always respected the personhood argument from the pro-lifers because it was rational and genuinely altruistic. Later I would evolve to think about the family as the base unit for rights in this area, but meanwhile I would be increasingly annoyed by the politicization of the issue. I would never begrudge anyone’s right to speech or protest, but what was coming across strongest was the energy some people have to regulate border issues. From this issue I learned that reasonable people can find themselves of opposite views, but I also began to worry about the frontier of public versus private interest and how many would inflate the public sphere to import authority over their neighbors.
One of the hallmarks of the southern brand of conservatism was militarism. I had pored over maneuver from Agincourt to Dien Bien Phu as a child; my people had sacrificed in the war of northern aggression, Europe, Korea, and VietNam. But it never caught on with me: Dad had been miserable as a cold warrior, a pointless clerk spending at one point a year on a Pacific Island two miles long and two thousand feet wide; he had his pay, but he had nothing else but ridiculous orders and frivolous achievements to show for it. Mustering out, he was unwanted for his few martial skills and made his way to grocery, and his son learned to love drab canvas only as cheap and handy surplus. When 200 Marines were blown up in Beirut, I couldn’t think of any rationale that their parents would stand to hear. I began to revisit and question VietNam, of course, but then: why Korea? Many things began to smell like Remember the Maine and the Gulf of Tonkin to me from then on. Other than retaliating for Pearl Harbor, I came to view most foreign adventures as boondoggles: the list of military projects that had achieved the desired goals and had respected the original rationales were infinitesimal so far as I could see. Looking back over a steady chain of deceit and failure, I could hardly see newly posited plans as anything other than American self-deception or power grabs.
As is surely clear, my politics are in no small part an outgrowth of my underclass surroundings, hillbilly paranoia, and poor potty training, but I read a lot and pretty much every political party had a chance to get the upper hand in my brain . . . but none ever earned it. I read the paper every day, watched Cronkite if home in time (seldom), and took in several longer forms on TV, including Brinkley on Sunday mornings and Wall $treet Week with Louis Rukeyser on Friday evening. From these I was learning something critical that my father, who had never finished high school, could not tell me: what was up in the world, and who was pulling the strings; I might not know everything, but the framework of countries and corporations was becoming clear to me, and I had ceased to couch the actions of the day purely in terms of the mindless patriotism that was stock in the small-town discussions I might overhear. Follow the money and similar suspicions become my primary tools to dissecting anything; this didn’t always lead to the quickest answers or the healthiest perspectives, but the shoe fit and paid off more times than not if I just waited and kept reading.
Further, much further, though, I was propelled by Buckley’s Firing Line. I shared so many of his religious and reactionary urges and was thunderstruck by his repertoire: he had towering metaphors for every situation, wrung from history, religion, and mythology. My vocabulary was skyrocketing, but there was something off: he was a man who would be king. I agreed with him on almost everything except the notion that everyone else should necessarily agree with us all the time and live like us and bow at our feet; my journey was convincing me that others should have their own journeys, not that I had found all the answers and should bring them down from the mountain to impose. Mostly, I learned the appeal to first principles as Buckley wrangled with Galbraith and ombudsman-interlocutor Kensley. I found calm and respectful debate addictively delightful; even today, the first page I turn to in any publication is the letters to the editor, and I simply don’t consider journals that don’t run them: honest debate has been more important to me than winning for four decades now. But as clear-headed as Buckley seemed to me, I couldn’t be attracted to a man or a party that didn’t lead with the freedom card; the arrogance left me suspecting that control was more important to Buckley . . . any by extension to Republicans . . . than baseline liberty.
Then there were practical and historical problems to weigh. After Asia ruined everyone’s uncles, the world still wasn’t saved from the commie dominos after all and some divisions never even came home, so it wasn’t clear to me what the plan was or whether it had been worth it. While I dutifully signed up for Selective Service and did my homework, I couldn’t imagine enlisting in any military nonsense. I read Catch-22 for about the third time since I was 12 and came to over-identify with Yossarian and became infected with his fear of being trapped in bureaucracy by patriotism. I came to despise jingoistic declarations and even avoid any movies or other glamorization of warfare; Top Gun came and went, but I took a pass. I noticed that a love of military toys was crowding out any discussion of when and why the toys should be used.
I went through a bunch-o-bullets in those days. I have a Winchester 94 in 22LR, and the barrel’s probably shot out at this point, maybe six minutes of angle now with good ammo and the iron sights, but in those days it was fresh from the factory and I was taking rabbits almost as far out as I could see them. Usually I bought my Federals, like my Levi’s, at the hardware store (whose rural sales staff thought nothing of it) and then pedaled away to do my damage. Over at another store, they wouldn’t sell that same caliber because I had to be 21 to buy “pistol ammunition.” The vacuity of laws and their random implementations were already evident to me before I could legally drive.
We didn’t heed Carter’s thermostat settings, and I was embarking on life at 14MPG because that’s how work gets done. That said, monkey actors from California didn’t appeal to me, either; my mother could shoot and swing an ax better than Ronald Reagan, and, having never had much of anything in the first place, I wasn’t hurt by the oil shocks and was just working my way to being my best me and taking little notice of the implosions in the rest of the country. Unlike my neighbors, I wasn’t motivated to cling to this president any more than I had to Ford or Nixon (who had been figureheads in my childhood and nothing more); I was too busy growing up. And, anyway, flimsy red baiters were a turn-off: posers (like the race baiters I also hated), they convicted people for what they said and believed when it seemed to me that any truly dangerous citizen should be prosecuted for what he had done. I was still stuck on honest debate, but the national mood and its leadership preferred the hysterical; the rule of the day was passion and, it seemed, everyone in my Hooterville was happily going along with whatever Reagan and Falwell told them to believe and do.
In this time, the rising War on Drugs scared me; I feared the machine’s ruining my life. Cousins had long-since reported that there were indeed no good chain gangs, and I planned for college while avoiding complications. Then the WoD hit close to home: some classmates went down on marijuana charges. My people had been making their own joy juice in the hills for centuries, so I had inherited no right to second-guess others’ jollies and gave adherents of the weird weed a pass. I have still never taken an illicit drug, but I never much cared what others did with themselves: just don’t run into me drunk or stoned and we’re good. But suddenly lives were being wrecked over victimless crimes. It was more and more clear: the government often operated expressly at odds to individual pursuit of happiness, no matter what the Declaration declared. But don’t drugs destroy lives: probably, but so did a thousand other things that were somehow still legal. The arbitrariness of it all with no clear appeal to first principles taught me that probably most of Reagan’s yapping was also unprincipled or should be held in suspicion at a bare minimum. I wasn’t necessarily gunning for Reagan: he was simply the first of many grandstanders who would fail to earn my respect.
I did have progressive urges: I saw poverty firsthand, wanted more for everyone, and entertained social policies that hoped to improve things. I didn’t mind the URW’s negotiating as a block if that’s what workers wanted, but I feared that many members had been coerced into signing a union card the way I had been directed to lead a prayer. The housing project was just a half mile from home, so I also saw multi-generational reliance on the dole up close. I paid a bit of tax on some W2 jobs, but half of my income was generally cash deals with farmers, and I wasn’t so Eagle Scout as to keep up with it, report it, or give Uncle Sam a cut; the fiscal and operational mistakes of the government weren’t really hitting me in a way to make me second-guess New Deal residues. I also saw the Knights of Columbus doing good works around town, and I threw my nickels in the Saint Jude barrow when the frat boys wheeled it through town every year; alms in private were clearly capable of delivering excellence. Meanwhile the great Republicans (motto: we understand economics) had literally billions upon billions of reasons why the deficit that they talked about didn’t really need any work on their watch. From this grand mishmash one could only conclude that there were no general answers, no panacea: the policies and attitudes and structures were veneers.
So off to college and marriage and profession I went, and I paid my taxes and stayed on my side of the road. That included a bit of business school where I came to respect macroeconomics and mastered finance at night while taking a turn in code enforcement during a recession. I did good work: decent and serious review and accountability that added no more than 1% value to the work I oversaw; I was working hard, and clearly was more useful than anyone else in my office, and still it came to nearly nothing. Others were less productive and even less impactful, and I suspected that ours was one of the more serious departments in the entire city government. Of course, as soon as a going concern and I found each other, I was snapped up by the private sector and, to the dismay of all my relatives, quickly escaped the security of government employment.
The national numbers came to mean more to me, and I came to respect federal programs less and less the more I knew about them. Government meant that milk cost easily twice what it should; meanwhile, a new generation had taken to the old housing project as normal as rain. The fruitlessness of public housing was unavoidable, and paying taxes came to remind me of the Baer line about alimony: “like buying oats for a dead horse.” At work, I was managing huge budgets, aligning to product strategies, and capitalizing operations; it was far from clear that any similar diligence was applied at government agencies. I was deadly serious about capital, but it seemed like a full third of the economy was dedicated to propping up less serious, less productive folks. I decided that enlightened self-interest was the best management theory and inferred that all government work must therefore be less efficient than deferring to market forces. In short, minimizing government was necessarily a public good.
That’s where I remain: unimpressed by political parties and yearning for autonomy and free markets. It’s a rich life on the debate side, though: I gun for everyone, but people only hear when I gun for their guy. Nobody, no politician, can be perfect, so it continues to boggle my mind why folks get so defensive about balls and strikes called fairly. My grandmothers would have told you that there was enough sin to go around; I’ll tell you there still is. I vote pragmatically: to stymy efficient government as much as possible while resisting as many brakes on freedom as possible. I hope everyone gets rich, finds love, and leaves content children behind them. . . on their own dime . . . and I hope I can be left alone just as much as is decent and possible.
Goddamnit I wanted to write a how I became a libertarian article.
Good one though and probably a different path than mine.
Go for it! Coming of age stories are the basis of multiple genres.
well i don’t wanna be sloppy seconds.
please do: there’s probably much more to life than just being mad about speed limits
Like seat-belt/helmet laws!
That sort of thing consumed me as a kid. On the one hand, I had my clear ideas about what worked best, and if you didn’t think like me, well: stupid oughta hurt. . . . and don’t come crying to me. Like I wrote: a bit o Calvin in the foot washers.
The hillbilly passive aggressive in me seldom argues. I’m more: you’ll see (returns to his own rat-killing). Life seems like a marketplace of ideas, and there is extreme value in seeing what has already blown up. Please, for the sake of the children, blow yourself up doing something spectacularly stupid as an example for the ages.
speed limits? /romanian
In PA, local police aren’t allowed to have radar guns. Speed limits seem more like a suggestion.
No RADAR? LIDAR it is!
No Lidar either.
Eldar?
Eldar!
How precisely is Azerbaijan part of Europe?
This must be new
Huh! How did I not know this?
But now that I think of it, all the townies used vascar
I haven’t seen any vascar set ups since the early 2000’s around here.
They used to pass out tickets based on the time stamps on toll road tickets.
We were quiet Primitive Baptists – do these drink alcohol? I don’t trust religions who don’t
With us foot washers (pronounced: warshers or worshers), it’s up to you to read your Bible yourself; there is no policy website or corporate headquarters.
But in practice, drinking was common, particularly, in private, whiskey for men who were/are after all part of a chain of generations of distillers.
so basically I understand you can’t handle your liquor.
The difference between a baptist and a catholic?
A catholic will say hello when you see him in the liquor store.
Why don’t baptists fuck standing up?
Worried the neighbors will see them and think they were dancing.
I am envious (constant state for me, so take that for what it’s worth). I wish I had had that rare “light” as a child who figures out early on that adults are full of shit and don’t know what they’re doing.
I just mindlessly rebelled when my personal (mental/tolerance) space was invaded without knowing why and messing up my life because I didn’t know when to keep my head down and mouth shut.
That’s probably the entire takeaway if there is one.
I moved on from that to start a career in engineering where almost daily I’m explaining: yeah, but it doesn’t work like that. Then onto middle management and sales where nothing works, everything matters, but no one is accountable. Be responsible and knowing what you’re doing sucked: much less fun.
“…the first page I turn to in any publication is the letters to the editor…”
Used to be me, too. Now it is rare to find an op-ed in the local fish wrap that is pro-freedom.
I wish I had had that rare “light” as a child who figures out early on that adults are full of shit and don’t know what they’re doing.
I’m way too much of a people pleaser for that to have happened to me.
me
To continue the them from last night. PS 146 pretty well covers my thoughts on Presidents.
I’m not a libertarian. I know full well that I don’t want to leave other people alone to make bad choices. Fortunately for the lot of you I don’t have the authority or the drive to enforce this will.
UCS for Dictator! No Beer! No Wine! No Spices! Mandatory Gloves!
you keep mentioning that. it’s okay you are forgiven
For what? It’s not as if I’ve begun my reign of terror yet.
UCS is a libertarian. He is just such a thorough going individualist (curmudgeon) that he won’t obey rules, even rules about what various ideas are called, or join a group, even a group that doesn’t believe in groups.
You dare slander me?
Thanks, Don!
I don’t quite know how or when I turned to the Dark Side. I do come from a line of business owners, though. That probably helped.
The older I get the more obvious it is to me that I had a pretty idyllic upbringing, largely sheltered from Leviathan.
To quote a great man:
“That’s bullshit. You’re a white suburban punk just like me.”
(For you, jarflax!)
business owners
I miss the direct, down to earn proprietor. I learned to drive tractors and wire houses from those quiet, steady guys. I hate the drama, but I watch Gold Rush with the sound off just so I can see guys drag stuff into place with chains and dozers and wire it up and watch it blow up and fix it and off again and, at the end of the week, a few good crumbs in the box.
I worked for my grandfather (for cash) when I was a yute. I was probably the only 11 year old in my school (city?) who could unload a truck with a forklift.
It has to have an effect.
I also worked for my grandfather as a kid. He was an excavator/outdoor contractor.
Riding around in dump trucks, back hoes, etc. was bad ass. Plus getting to run around gravel pits/stone yards. One of them was a private yard with a rifle range. I had a pretty good childhood.
Linky!
Hey I know that one! Its from Otto in A Fish Called Wanda!
Super article, Don. You were way ahead of me and a lot younger when you saw through the fog. Many of the things you mentioned growing up were familiar. It took me longer to undo the things I had been taught over the course of life.
Glad you wrote the article, many of us could identify with some of the points you made but you were able to put them all together. Hopefully the youngsters of today will have more opportunities to learn about the daily intrusions and meddling they face but I’m not too optimistic, given the schools and environment they are growing up with.
Thanks, glad you escaped and are here to remind us.
younger
A big part of that was my mom’s hatred of VietNam. She’s brilliant and easily sliced through the bullshit of the day, but she’s a socialist with Che goggles, so you gotta watch her too. Without her, I would have been much slower to perfect my cynicism.
World Book was big, too: I stumbled into a lot of history there because I was looking up battles. Prepubescent me: Napoleon, Partition, Israel, Formosa, Montezuma, and Tripoli! Who knew all these glorious shit-bombs had gone off centuries before.
Oh, also: I was mesmerized by Lawrence of Arabia and the futility of straight borders. It was obvious to me as a teenager: Germans on this side of the Rhine and French on that is the only thing that works and that everyone understands. That and watching Bedouins argue over a water hole while the Troubles raged. I found real live much more interesting than Looney Tunes.
particularly, we rejected religious bureaucracy, hierarchy in the church, and evangelism;
Sounds like an excellent foundation for libertarian thinking.
And, anyway, flimsy red baiters were a turn-off: posers (like the race baiters I also hated), they convicted people for what they said and believed when it seemed to me that any truly dangerous citizen should be prosecuted for what he had done.
I’m sympathetic and generally tolerant of the many lefties and squishy thinkers, but there are some belief systems that are truly dangerous because it is inherent in them that others be forced to submit. I think Islam is one of these, and I know leftism in all its flavors is one of these. I don’t see a strain of Christianity that isn’t hopelessly fringe that does this (church ladies may be annoying, but in my experience growing up in the Bible Belt they mostly exert social pressure, although there are some “otta be a law” exceptions).
I hope everyone gets rich, finds love, and leaves content children behind them. . . on their own dime . . . and I hope I can be left alone just as much as is decent and possible.
We spar here from time to time, but that’s pretty much where I am. When I say “I just want everybody to be happy and successful in their own way”*, it is often received with surprise. I can’t understand why anyone harbors such deep down ill will to other people that they want them to suffer, but it seems common.
Excellent post, Don. I skimmed and saw echoes of my upbringing and outlook, although my parents were from the poor side of the tracks, they were much more middle-of-the-road middle class by the time I showed up. Will revisit for a deeper read.
*Naturally, I make a few exceptions on an individual basis
You spelled “The Fall of Babylon” incorrectly.
You might have noticed that I don’t believe the OFFICIAL STORY OF LITTLE ROUND TOP because it’s built of scraps that don’t agree with how people really behave.
Conversely, Sumter is how people behave: it’s easy to shoot a huge weapon at people you can’t see because they’re in a fort a mile away. Seceding is one thing and quasi-passive, and rebelling is another necessarily bellicose enterprise. I can image quitting the Union, but I can’t imagine being the first man to fire, to kill another American over politics. I wish Sumter could have been a rugby match after which we all stitch each other up and go have a beer after the scrum.
So, for the record, the War of Northern Aggression was clearly the War of Southern Aggression as I score these things.
So, for the record, the War of Northern Aggression was clearly the War of Southern Aggression as I score these things.
If you accept that (a) States had the authority to secede (b) the presence of the Union garrison was a violation of SC’s sovereignty, and (c) the Union’s activities (including shipping additional troops to SC territory over SC’s objection were acts of aggression, would that change your mind? If the fort was properly SC’s territory, Union reinforcement strikes me as an invasion, and the refusal to surrender it strikes me as an act of war.
Because I am legalistic, to me the question of who the aggressor was boils down to whether states had the authority to secede. For which there is no clear answer, so maybe it does come down to who shot first.
The shooting also wasn’t (by a long shot) the first step in things. Long series of back-and-forth regarding who’s bringing beans and bacon to the US troops stationed there. That particular resupply convoy was meant to provoke a first shot, and it did.
The Rebs denied the poor soldiers Bacon?
The bastards!
if the fort was properly SC’s territory
Is that properly true, though? I don’t know these things, but isn’t an army base considered federal, rather than state territory? I mean mostly, they have their own police, right? Was it considered SC territory prior to the war? Or federal property?
I don’t believe the notion of federal property, as you describe it, actually existed before the Civil War. The 10th Amendment was still considered to have teeth and was specifically added to get the southern colonies/states to join in ratifying the constitution.
17: To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;
I’ve heard some authors and historians claim that there were representatives of southern states sent to DC to negotiate such property issues and that their counterparts in DC were instructed to not meet with them.
Dunno if these claims are true or not.
There’s probably a lot of people who if it were true would prefer that such a truth be suppressed.
representatives of southern states sent to DC to negotiate such property issues and that their counterparts in DC were instructed to not meet with them.
Thomas Dilorenzo has done a lot of research on this (two books) and that is his position. Also consider that the fort was being used to fleece SC in trade.
If you accept that (a) States had the authority to secede (b) the presence of the Union garrison was a violation of SC’s sovereignty, and (c) the Union’s activities (including shipping additional troops to SC territory
They (the Union) were attempting to enforce the recently doubled tariff on a State that had declared sovereignty. Nothing in the federal constitution gives the federal government the authority to prevent any State from leaving that which it had voluntarily joined and for any reason. SC was by that time, effectively, a foreign country. With the reinforcements for the fort being dispatched, it became necessary to preemptively strike in order to remove the threat. I’ll note that 1) no one was killed, and 2) the fleet that had been dispatched never even arrived because the desired result (SC militia firing on the fort) had already been achieved. There is documentation from the Lincoln admin that states as much.
tag closing fail…
It is time to stop fighting the Civil War, because it is getting on toward time to prep for the next one.
Cry “RACIST”, and let’s sip the lattes of soy.
*opera applause*
You might have noticed that I don’t believe the OFFICIAL STORY OF LITTLE ROUND TOP because it’s built of scraps that don’t agree with how people really behave.
I would have to differ with you on that. I’ve seen people do these things. In combat. Later, I’ve been to many of their memorial services.
It’s a long story that deserves more than twenty syllables. Anyone who’s read me knows that I seldom attribute peaceable actions to consistent reason, much less maneuver under fire; hard logic isn’t a reliable brick for the reconstruction of history.
“…mostly I liked reliable devices that didn’t have opinions,”…
I was expecting a link to RealDolls.
Now I’m sad.
needz moar Snap-On!!!
Is that a dentist’s chair ?
I kept laughing all the way through Star Wars as a child over every starch bucket painted silver and the its triumphs over so many laws of physics.
Trump makes at least 12 false claims at his longest rally
They are literally “fact-checking” obvious hyperbole and other bullshit.
+ 1 planet beginning to heal and ocean rise stopping
OT: Yesterday was the 40th anniversary of The Great One’s first NHL game.
He only got an assist in that game. His first goal came a couple games later
That was the first of 894 goals. He also had 1,963 assists. Unreal.
Bow your heads and reflect on the best hockey player to ever play the game.
I know it’s about a player at the opposite end of the spectrum, but now you’ve got this in my head.
*Bows head*
“Ow! Crap, I got a cramp in my neck!”
Damn, that video makes me feel old. I never got to see him play live.
Oh, you mean Bobby Orr? j/k (sort of)
I should have been a Gretzky fan during that era, but Orr was God to me.
I always decided the “best evah!” on two premises: Orr could fight, Gretzky couldn’t & wouldn’t, and Orr could have been a forward and scored endlessly, while Gretzky would have been a disaster on D.
Now, as a much older man and fan, (a) I recognize my criteria picked the two things Gretzky didn’t do; and (b) what Gretzky did to the NHL record books is still absurd. Jagr’s point totals are just now approaching Gretzky’s total assists.
Gretzky’s autobiography turned me around on him as did Jack Falls’s classic “Home Ice” (about backyard rinks). Gretzky is every bit the gentleman that Orr is.
I’ll give them both #1 (parts a and b) and don’t mind the debate about a and b at all.
Isn’t it great the season is back?!
There was a time I would have agreed with you. But,as you say, the numbers (and impact) don’t lie.
FWIW, Orr was my favorite defenseman…until Lidstrom!
Playing the GOAT game is ultimately futile. 99 had the biggest impact on the game – it’s not even close – but there are a ton of legends that made the game what it is today.
Isn’t it great the season is back?!
It is great. The game is improving every year. I can’t get over how skilled these kids are.
I would have said Marty Brodeur.
The league even changed the rules to punish him with the fucking trapezoid.
The league changed the rules when the Gretzky-era Oilers were too good on 4v4. Coincidental minor penalties stayed 5 v 5. So fucking stupid.
The league should just fuck off.
Except for the absurd goalie pads. Anything that results in less offense is retarded.
@pan fried wiley, I answere your comment to me in a.m. lynx.
What an utter piece of shit:
“civilians owning guns is the same as the government harvesting organs from its citizens”
/moron
Pretty much exactly what he’s saying.
Not that I cared anything for Steve Kerr before, but now he’s exposed as a coward and hypocrite of the highest order.
What a moron. He played basketball at the University of Arizona and is very highly regarded here in Tucson. I don’t regularly catch the TV news, so I don’t know if there is any blowback on him being a Communist mouthpiece.
Wife just started watching Shameless (US edition). Is Frank Gallagher the biggest straw man or what? He talks something like Don here. But he’s a drunk! And a complete hypocrite! The audience sneers, and thinks, they’re all like that, snug in their intellectual superiority.
I dunno, she just started watching, and maybe I have it wrong. But that’s my impression of what I’ve seen so far.
I’ve had the exact same reaction as you to that show. My wife loves it and has seen pretty much the entire series. I found it to be very clearly a show in which the humor is entirely predicated on a bobo upper-middle class viewer watching these characters to snicker at how awful the white working class is. Frank is a cartoon, basically, and so is most of the rest of the cast. There’s zero subtlety to the show at all. It’s purely an exercise in condescension and class snobbery.
Frank is a human cockroach. Or a terminator. I think the show is more about the kids surviving around/in spite of his unrepentant selfishness.
My wife loves it.
For you car guys:
https://shitty-car-mods-daily.tumblr.com/image/188203923936
Also a joke:
What is the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?
The porcupine has the pricks on the outside.
Complete with the vein.
I’m looking to arm a fictional character, and have been in search of a break-top revolver produced relatively recently (into the mid 20th century at least, preferrably more recently) and chambered in a round still commonly available.
Any suggestions?
Enfield #2?
I’d peviously looked at and decided against the Webley because the .38/200 is not exactly that common, even if it is still being made.
https://www.uberti-usa.com/top-break-revolver
Webley .455
.455 Webley is no more common than .38/200, though
Webley .455. British, used in War I and, according to Wikipedia, up to 1963.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webley_Revolver
I had looked at the Webley, but the ammunition rarity is what sent me to ask the Glibertariat.
The Uberti is still being made and comes in .38 special. I think that fits your bill.
I see Uberti is currently making one that chambers .45 colt, but break-top design can’t handle modern ammunition pressures very well.
Since I still have most of an hour at work, I can’t follow your or Sean’s link, and had to rely on Wikipedia’s Uberti page (not all that enlightening about the specific problem indicated). I’ll have to check back when I can look from home.
Did a little research and, for a few years in the early Aughts, S&W made reproductions of the S&W Model 3 chambered in .45 Schoefield.
I’m not sure there exists an ideal example that fits all of your criteria
Thank you for the effort.
In fact, thank everybody. I had been running short on leads thanks to the work proxy. Now I have something to follow up on.
H&R made breaktops if US weapons are on the table, .32 and .38 are both still commonly available
I’m getting confused and must be wrong about .45Colt which would have been ideal being common to other military weapons. The Schoefield round was probably spec at some point well before the repros or else they would all had been .45Colt all along.
the Schoefield was one of the original Model 3 variants in the 1870s. The round fit in both the SAA and the Model 3, but the .45 Colt only fit the SAA.
Bottom line, the Uberti is chambered in .45 colt or 38 Special, but you have to use black powder or select ‘cowboy loads’ because the gun can’t handle modern cylinder pressures.
I suggest you arm Eliza from Uncle Tom’s cabin. She could have used a gun.
This is the guy that I was looking for a name for in the AM Lynx. I am brainstorming for a story idea that may never bear fruit, but involves our Euro-Bubba hunting werewolves at a rodeo and being interrupted by a weeb who somehow acquired powers and is playing ninja.
Pie v. Ash ketchum 2: werewolf boogaloo
Oh, I have the perfect opening line.
As the scene unfolds it turns out they’re standing around a mutilated cow, looking over the carnage.
Not going with the classics?
“I’m not saying it was aliens, but . . . .”
I try to homage without being a complete ripoff.
Though since this by default has to be a Tarnished Sterling story, there are aliens in the setting.
The brick joke will be that the werewolf snuck across the border, and thus was actually an alien.
Since that popped into my head the instant I read your line, I think you’ve probably got it nailed.
I jumped English for no reason other than I thought S&W was too obvious and assumed you were writing for a European. Webley is just stuck in my mind from all those foppish fumbling freaks of Britain: as if its design speck was “a pistol as awkward as an Englishman himself.”
#3 was built in .44S&W and maybe .44-20?
Well, the character is European, but he’s in the US for the story, so I figure there’s no restriction beyond the style for the mental picture and being able to find ammo.
The original Model 3 was. The repro was Schofield only.
Left out that the original Model 3 was discontinued in 1915.
*slow clap*
Very similar story to mine. I was 40 before I knew what a libertarian was, and realized I’d been one my entire life.
I was about 35 before I realized that some things I believed weren’t necessarily true.
Lots of moving parts.
I really struggled with how to be fair explaining things to my son without warping him or turning him into a cynical bastard. You want to be proud of your flag, to think of your president as a virtuous manager, but you don’t want your kid to be mindless or get screwed over because he’s hopelessly naive and bought into some partisan hive rationalization. He’s a 2L student in Texas who loves constitutional law (not that that puts him in particularly good company) and is stridently libertarian, more so each day. After meeting with the local LP association, he reported that they’re mostly dangerous idiots with barely a hint of what freedom and limited government might look like, so I suppose I did not entirely fail him.
One of the best lessons you can learn as a kid is that adults not only don’t have all the answers, but they’re full of shit half the time.
You take that back, my dad has never been full of shit!! *runs away sobbing*
So the Dysentery got him?
I’m so sorry.
I tell my kids all the time that we don’t know what we’re doing and we’re just trying to do the right thing.
I tell mine that I already made a bunch of mistakes and I want them to be original and make their own, not repeat mine.
Reminds me of my job interview:
“I can’t promise I won’t make any mistakes. I can promise that I will make new and exciting mistakes.”
There’s something very freeing about interviewing for a job when you already have on you like.
Even just having gainful employment is enough to free up the interview a bit.
When I was a youngster, just starting a commission sales job, my boss (and mentor) made me drive to the bank and get $200. He always checked to make sure I had the money on me.
It’s the same thing as interviewing for a job when you really don’t need it. People can smell desperation.
I always tell young sales people to not invest in the outcome. If you do everything properly, the sales will come. It’s exactly the same in interviewing. If you convince yourself that everything will be cool whether you get the job or not, you will be a far more effective interviewee.
It’s a fantastic discipline to master.
“It looks like they don’t even need our business!”
I was so conservative and structured (still am for the most part as to my own affairs), but all my Cub Scout notions were just tortured by the news. I was just a child, but Mom’s takes on VietNam and Watergate waylaid any jingoistic jargon or statist/loyalist impulse in me. Gulf of Tonkin was a cruel lesson to a kid who had Kennedy’s “resist any enemy, oppose any foe” tacked up on his wall.
Gulf of Tonkin was a cruel lesson…
I’d have called myself a Republican as a young man. Despite my hatred of authority. Probably for a perceived lack of a better choice. After my revelation, I realized I never was.
From that point on, having a guiding set of principles rooted in liberty, became a priority for me. Now they are my moral compass. And it amazes me how few people have a set of first principles or even understand the notion. I’d say that vast majority of people’s notion of right and wrong are based on feelz.
The stones on these guys, I tell yahs….
That whole confronting your accusers and cross-examination thing is just passe. Due process rights are for people, not subhumans like OrangeManBad.
I thought the first whistleblower had already been doxxed as a former Biden minion, anyway.
amid persistent concerns about protecting his anonymity and safety
Well if they aren’t careful Bad Orange Man, having claimed the authority to kill American citizens without trial, will murder-drone them. Or am I thinking of someone else?
Mug shot of the day.
Florida man, of course.
Somehow he got outed as a cross dresser. What a surprise.
He is a rather unfortunate-looking man.
Just like Ross Perot said back in ’91
I discovered I was libertarianish (more of a conservatarian probably) while in college. I was kindof a conservative Republican before that, thanks to my father. But I always knew there were issues with some standard conservative positions.
College was weird though, watching peers that were not taking a hard science being indoctrinated into leftist bs.
I fancied myself a libertarianish conservative for most of my adult days. From, say, 2006-onward, that self-applied identity was chipped away as I faced certain facts:
-Despite my long held law-and-order, pro-law enforcement views, I could no longer avert my eyes from the appalling stories of police abuses and how rarely they are held to account for it. As much of a dumbass as Balko has made himself in recent years, I have to give him a lot of credit for this, because it was mostly his reporting that forced me to reconsider a lot of my beliefs.
-The free-spending ways of the GOP Congress made me realize how empty their platitudes regarding fiscal responsibility are.
-The never-ending war….the American military was practically a secular religion in my family, and I strived to live up to my part by spending five years in the Corps. And I don’t regret it, not at all. However, being a part of it released me from the silly level of public sanctity it has achieved in the past few decades. Even my generally pro-military proclivities weren’t enough for me to continue to delude myself that the wars weren’t a massive mistake, something I was unable to admit out loud but knew in my heart from near the end of w’s administration onward.
Yeah, I gotta give props to Balko, too. Having many cops in my life it was (is) hard to accept how bad it has gotten.
Same here. Mom’s family is the stereotypical NY Irish family – lots of cops and firemen. Being vehemently pro-cop is the default for my relatives.
Back the date from 2006 to about 2002 and this is my journey as well.
I don’t regret it
Every man serves for his own reasons.
In the militant south, we still couldn’t argue VietNam in many circles for decades. I never figured out how to argue with a Gold Star dad about these things: their sacrifices seem to trump history and reason. I later arm-wrestled with Marine veterans on lunch break: they’re obsessed with winning and justification, and I’m just saying that if the protests had brought things around and the boys home earlier, maybe your buddies would be here at this table still with us. I call it the Red One, the top trump card in the version of rook we southerners play: there’s no arguing purpose or waste with someone who has so much skin in the game.
conservative Republican
I was a budding neocon tweener: everything America does everywhere is good because we’re America.
Once we bugged out of Saigon, the confessions and conjecture ramped up, and I realized that an entire generation had been consumed by justifying, prosecuting, ending, and redefing the war. By the time I read Karnow I was in my twenties and the history read less as revelation and more like Catch-22: a tragedy in a hundred acts.
I’m significantly less anti-war than most here, but the basic principle I hold to on war is this:
If a war is worth fighting, it is worth fighting to win. If you aren’t willing to do what it takes to win you have no business getting involved in a war.
That means several things to me.
First it means you never go into a war without a clearly defined victory condition. Second, a victory condition must be a set of military objectives. Things you must break, people you must kill or capture, not any high sounding aims like building democracy, because you cannot do that with an army. You probably cannot do it at all. Finally it means once you have gone to war you do not ever half ass it. If the enemy goes into Cambodia to get away, you damn well go after them. If you half ass a war whoever is responsible should be tried for treason. Setting ROEs that allow an enemy to win is by definition aid and comfort to that enemy in time of war.
This is where I am.
I agree with that.
This, over and over.
We’ve turned a dangerous corner in demanding the military nation-build.
Agreed. My own view at this point is:
-National security is a valid, constitutionally provided duty of a national government, and I do believe in having a military that can rival any other on earth.
-We should go to war only for the narrow interests of the United States. Not on behalf of allies, not to ostensibly rescue the people of another nation, not for nebulous reasons of “promoting democracy”. Under those conditions, rarely would we go to war.
-In the rare cases that fit, as you say, we fight to win. Limited war is bullshit. You utterly defeat your enemy, or you stay home.
-You don’t go to war for one reason and then remain at war for years and years for other reasons. Contra Ron Paul, I have no problem with attacking Afghanistan in late 2001. They aided a group that committed a major attack on American soil and that demanded a response. I absolutely have a problem with staying in Afghanistan perpetually to prop up the weak, corrupt Karzai regime. We should have kicked the shit out of them, bombed them to oblivion, and gone the hell home.
Sorry for the late response, but I believe Ron Paul voted to authorize the military response to Afghanistan.
“If you half ass a war whoever is responsible should be tried for treason. Setting ROEs that allow an enemy to win is by definition aid and comfort to that enemy in time of war.”
Indeed.
Pretty much me too.
We lost our way after WWII on this. We traditionally fought to unconditional surrender of the opposing sovereign, which strikes me as the right approach. Once you start using your military for more limited objectives, you find endless opportunities to deploy them. So, WWII was fought for good reason – we had been attacked by both Japan and Germany (which was sinking our ships). We fought both to unconditional surrender.
Skip over the US being the UN’s buttboy in Korea and our illegitimate intervention into the Vietnamese civil war, etc., and then next justifiable war is Afghanistan, where we should have left after we won and the Taliban was gone. Stay barely long enough for Karzai to get unpacked in the Presidential Palace. Iraq, Syria, etc. – nope.
Our military should be deployed solely to utterly defeat an opposing nation. Not to police the world, not to put a thumb on the scales of other country’s internal conflicts. The Navy I make an exception for – they can be deployed to maintain the “freedom of the seas”, which in my mind includes shelling pirate havens in the Gulf and Horn of Africa, if need be.
Short version:
Little bit of Freedom School (Kevin Cullinane).
Waco and Ruby Ridge
Joe Sobran’s “The Reluctant Anarchist”
Joe Sobran is an unpopular name to cite as inspiration.
Similarly, I credit Buchanan’s “A Republic, Not an Empire” as a very impactful book for myself. I probably would have never found out about Liberty magazine and antiwar.com without having first read that.
Well, regardless of popularity, I didn’t write “Joe Sobran”. I mentioned a particular article, which is true as an inspiration despite anything else that person did for good or ill.
Waco and Ruby Ridge
were my Kent State.
I wasn’t knocking. I was saying I have a similar experience
Now that you mention it, I think Waco might have been a small point on my plotline from conservative to libertarian.
Elian Gonzalez was, for some reason I don’t know, particularly upsetting.
American LEOs acting on the orders of Fidel Castro upsets me as well. Waco and Gonzalez are why Bill Clinton, to me, is by far the worst American President, and when he finally kicks the bucket, I will make no pretense of mourning. He ordered the murder of American children with weeks of deliberate forethought because they practice a weird religion.
“…hard-working parents who had escaped generations of small, impoverishing family farms, my first notion was always independence. Before any formal concept of agency, utility, or property ever washed into an ear, I knew I valued my own counsel above all others, and my strongest urge and desire was simply to be left alone.”
Did I write this? It seems a fairly common story. I was fortunate enough that, unlike many in the south, I was not subjected to ascetic religious indoctrination. I was raised Catholic in a very middle of the road, moderate church.
The truth is I never became a libertarian. I always was one even if I didn’t know the word.
ascetic
Oh, I could have gone to prom; I just preferred to work that night. King James was never harsh or confrontational in my time: no one banging on about laying with another man or arguing about the strength of ancient wine. It was a program running in the background (Holy Ghost?) that just kicked the right fable to the front of my brain as each occasion warranted.
Early in my son’s scouting another dad and I toyed with application as we watched a leader struggle with the best way to keep his patrol together on the trail. Was it leave the flock and go find the one, or the last shall be first and the first shall be last. We never decided, and we never interfered.
It’s send the flock to retrieve the laggard while you wait.
Is that Glib rule #35 or so: why can’t both be true?
Of course, it would be laggards: buddy system.
Fucked up patrols is a feature, not a bug: they learn more trying to get their ox out of the ditch. I tried to stay in true “Scouter” mode: just walking in the woods or sipping coffee in the shade.
I was a rebel until my mid twenties, then a libertarian leaning Republican for a minute, then a libertarian. Still a rebel, though..
Welp.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-troops-syria-turkey-1464727
This is going to end well.
NATO is very important and only a fascist would think otherwise
Oopsie! Did we do that??
Hey, worked for the Israelis with the USS Liberty in 1967.
DC warmongers rejoice!
Sounds like nobody of ours killed. I think nuking a small and unimportant Turkish city would be an adequate response.
I just read something you posted last year about growing up in Vernon. I’ve hiked or biked about half of west Texas: fascinating place. My son took a bunch of friends out to the Big Bend last month; they were shocked; for him, it was as if time had stood still and every rock was where it belonged from a decade before.
The funny thing is, Big Bend is different now than it was a hundred years ago. Overgrazing by sheep completely changed the flora and fauna.
The rocks, not so much.
Reminds me: We toured some of the old missions around San Antonio. What was fascinating was how different that part of the world was when the Spanish arrived – cooler, wetter, tall grass prairies – very different than now. And it changed long before the industrial revolution, so it isn’t Man-Made Climate Catastrophe, or whatever brand watermelon they are peddling now.
My son has done the urban hike: seems like it’s 50 miles between various missions. He’s at Saint Mary’s, btw.
Thanks for that read, Don. Great stuff.
“I may be dumb… but I make up for it by being slow.”
~Me (because I can’t remember who I ripped it off from but it made me laugh)
I had to go fully into the belly of the beast, believing every line of Reagan’s jingoistic stuff while I was in high school, join the military, become a Republican, and eventually have it all fall apart during and after my time in Afghanistan. LOTS of reading in my late 30s and early 40s brought me from Rand to Hayek and Von Mises, Uncle Milty (Friedman), Sowell, Hazlitt, and Nock (among others). Still reading, watching, and learning, but both the Left and the Right recently have made it very easy to be a libertarian, in my opinion.
I was really confused. Things didn’t line up; my own urges weren’t rational; the enemy of my enemy wasn’t necessarily my enemy. I found no answers other than there is no answer, so fuck off.
Riding RC’s coattails from five minutes ago, I want WW2 again: if we do something it’s obvious, it’s mortal, and it’s immediate.
Yeah, JarFlax, Chipwooder, and RC pretty succinctly captured my own views on the subject of war and the military. I suspect that view is pretty “mainstream” American or, at the least, it used to be in this country.
I thought Afghanistan was a just war and it’s why I volunteered. After a few years there, I was like, “Okay, Bin Laden is obviously in Pakistan and being protected by ISI… *NOW* what?” I will say this with gratitude: the things that I learned in Afghanistan – for one example, the ground truth about the War on Drugs – continue to inform and teach me to this day. I am deeply grateful for the experience, notwithstanding the savagery, the lost friends, the seemingly pointless death, etc.
I also stumbled onto a book left at some firebase in the hinterlands called “Everyday Ethics,” IIRC, and that was a great little read that spurred me to continue my journey to reconcile my own thoughts and experiences on principles against what had already been written on the subject. That alone made it worth it.
“Okay, Bin Laden is obviously in Pakistan and being protected by ISI… *NOW* what?”
The logical next step would have been to invade Pakistan. I doubt the juice would have been worth the squeeze, though.
We could have done what we eventually did but the neocons in the W admin were constantly peddling the idea that if we went one foot into Paki territory then “the people” would revolt, topple Musharraff’s govt, and the Taliban would get their hands on nukes. I can’t tell you how many times I heard that fucking bullshit from senior military and intelligence officials.
Working from home, neighbor is burning during a burn ban. I wouldn’t care except it is blowing right over to my house and stinking the place up. #libertariandilemma
Also, he has a truck and dump is 6 minutes away.
Politely mention the smoke and smell is getting to you….could he burn elsewhere?
Talk to him? I was looking for serious suggestions.
Giant fans to blow the smoke back his way.
Throw a 1/4 stick into the burn barrel.
Shit in his yard
Better yet, down his chimney
https://media.thetab.com/blogs.dir/56/files/2016/03/chimney-e1458306114490.jpg
Wait until he is downwind of you, and return the favor.
The other day I mentioned Scott Adams’s book God’s Debris in reference to UCS’s comment about map makers. I found the quote.
One other formative wakeup was Wounded Knee. I need to revisit that to weigh those particulars, but the wider genocide is enough to solidify a notion: a good many people can justify murder, and their Congress and their President will affix the official seal and send armed escorts as well.
I started out as a standard conservative Republican, following my parent’s lead (I wasn’t rebellious at all). My mom was an interesting case: her first vote went for FDR, but after that she realized her mistake. My parents never pushed their religious beliefs on me, and so I became (or is it remained?) agnostic, and the religious aspect of the GOP turned me off. That and a healthy dose of Milton Friedman pushed me further into the liberty camp.
My views on the military took longer to convert; the uselessness and shortsightedness of our adventures in the Middle East for the last 20 years has turned me around there. I could still make a case for Kuwait and Korea (which would otherwise be one Korea, all like the current North Korea), but that’s about it.
My hillbilly uncles were like Chef in Apocalypse Now: “wrapped too tight for Vietnam, probably wrapped too tight for New Orleans.” I don’t know how screwed up they were before they got to Korea or the Mekong, but everyone came back with issues.
Some Boomers were real headscratchers for me. If you protested or went to Canada or whatever back when, where is the instinct to avoid more adventures? I don’t understand how isolationism hasn’t become the default American posture other than that we’re not drafting anyone now.
I don’t understand how isolationism hasn’t become the default American posture
Too many people getting too much power and money from ‘Murca, World Po-lice.
You could have just said, “Patriotism.”
+1,000,000,000 L D Bell