A Tuesday Midday Post

We knew it was coming…the day when we all dropped the ball.  That day was so many days recently.

I made the joke— Pictured:  the week without SP.

Sorry about that.  I took it upon myself to make sure there was a midday post.  It is in this spirit I propose this as a topic of discussion:  Cole Slaw.  The most hated of slaws, but why?

Is it the cabbage?

Is it because its cold…too cold…cold enough you feel it in the fillings in the back of your teeth?

Did some crackerjack in your youth turn you off because they put some bloody Miracle Whip in is instead of Mayonaise like the Devil himself intended?

…or were you just hoping I’d link to Danzig?

Personally the only time I like cole slaw is on a BBQ pork sandwich.  The creamy tanginess and the crisp cabbage is a nice counter to what I often find is a too sweet BBQ sauce.  Unless I’m in NC, then it counters the bitterness of their vinegar sauce just as well.

So discover your tribe, the slaws vs. the anti-slaws.  I am not responsible for anything that becomes of this discussion.

 

Comments

332 responses to “A Tuesday Midday Post”

  1. Michael

    I personally enjoy all salad varieties derived from pickled cabbage, but that is probably owing to my Slaw-vic heritage.

    1. *narrowskis gaze*

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        That was Cole Swiss

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      And now you understand why the Hapsburgs had to dominate your people

      1. Jarflax

        Don’t give him any lip!

        1. I think you mean chin…

    3. bacon-magic

      Coleslaw on top of pulled pork is the closest to Heaven you will get besides a BLT.

  2. Yusef drives a Kia

    Fresh Cole slaw rocks! Unless it’s made shitty…..

    1. Rhywun

      It’s the only use of cabbage I sort-of like, even. Probably because the cabbage flavor is buried.

      1. BakedPenguin

        Second.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        I like it with certain Chinese dishes, like Moo Shu Pork. Aside from that it’s pretty much a ‘meh’ for me.

        1. Galt1138

          Is sauerkraut made from cabbage?
          If so, I love that with beer brats.

  3. Bobarian LMD

    The best cole slaw is vinegar slaw.

    And is the only type of slaw to put on Carolina BBQ.

    Fight me.

    1. juris imprudent

      Pepper slaw (vinegar slaw with some thin jalapeno slices).

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Yes! A little heat.

        Sometimes a little sweet (depending on what your doing with it). Honey works best.

        Apple cider vinegar for Carolina style, or wine vinegar for a little milder flavor.

        Add some black garlic and kosher salt.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Also asian slaw, if you substitute rice vinegar and sesame oil for the olive oil that I left out above.

          And I left out the stone ground mustard, too (not for the asian slaw).

    2. LJW

      Guess you have to find some way to cover the taste of Carolina BBQ. KC BBQ rules all!

      1. Mojeaux

        KC BBQ rules all!

        QFT.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Luv you Mo, but we have to part ways here.

          Memphis BBQ is the best. Only hacks drown their bbq in sauce.

          1. robc

            Listen to the Pope.

            Although, I have to, as always, throw the overlooked Owensboro BBQ into the mix. Mutton BBQ is a thing, you know.

          2. Mojeaux

            Luv you Mo, but we have to part ways here.

            *sniffle* BYE!

      2. l0b0t

        Florida/Georgia BBQ is the absolute best; the science is settled.

    3. Democratic Hitler

      This is the correct answer: vinegar slaw is excellent. I use apple cider vinegar, oil, salt, pepper, and a tiny bit of sugar.

      Creamy slaw is inedible.

  4. Bobarian LMD

    Not for nothing, though, KFC makes a pretty good creamy slaw.

    Which almost makes up for the abortion they call mashed potatoes (which my wife craves fortnightly).

    1. Preach it, brother. (On both points)

  5. Mojeaux

    I don’t know from cole slaw, except I looooooove Red Lobster’s. My daughter never met a cole slaw she didn’t like.

  6. I am going to say it…

    KFC has the best cole slaw in the world.

    There, it is out there now.

    1. juris imprudent

      Your opinion on pizza is now rendered invalid.

    2. Yusef drives a Kia

      This, I was afraid to say it,
      KFC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Bomb

      1. wdalasio

        KFC may have better cole slaw. But, Popeye’s has red beans and rice.

        1. Rasilio

          And better chicken

        2. + a whole lot for Popeye’s red beans and rice.

          1. dbleagle

            Popeye’s recently added some decent Black-eyed Peas to their sides.

            KC BBQ okay, NC BBQ is fantastic!

        3. Certified Public Asshat

          Popeye’s fries are also very underrated in the world of “fast” food fries.

          Fast in quotes because Popeye’s always takes forever.

    3. Mojeaux

      I’m glad you said it because I wasn’t going to, but…almost agree. KFC is #2. Red Lobster is #1.

      1. MikeS

        Red Lobster has the best biscuits in the world.

    4. MikeS

      Swiss speaks truth.

  7. wdalasio

    The one thing I can’t figure out for the life of me is why some people put sugar in their cole slaw. I generally lke cole slaw. But, adding sugar just ruins it.

    1. Timeloose

      You should only add a touch of sugar. One packet of sugar per head of cabbage will do.

      1. Packet?

        Sugar comes in bags starting at ten pounds.

        /baker

        1. Timeloose

          I suppose your going to tell me you measure everything in lbs, ever water and milk.

          1. Fuck that noise – and people who weigh baking ingredients.

            Volumetric!

      2. wdalasio

        Sorry, but I’ve heard people say that before. And their cole slaw comes out tasting like it was made with the Crime Against Humanity that is Miracle Whip.

        1. So…no Miracle Whip and Peanut Butter sammich for ye then?

          1. You’re trying to make people sick?

          2. wdalasio

            I think I’ll pass.

          3. juris imprudent

            Someone wants SugarFree’s crown of grossness.

          4. MikeS

            *barf*

            Is that real thing?

          5. nw

            Wow. Remind me to be specific if I ever need Swiss to pick
            up sandwiches for lunch.

        2. Timeloose

          The sugar is to balance the salt and vinegar and should be hard to detect as sweet.

  8. Nephilium

    You people are all monsters. MONSTERS! Mixing mayo into cabbage doesn’t make either part better.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Cole Slaw is the salad most preferred by people who still think vegetables are icky

      1. Look, there are all of two viable uses for cabbage – Saurkraut (preferred) and Slaw (acceptable)

        It’s not my fault Cabbage sucks.

        1. Nephilium

          There’s cabbage rolls (not bad, but work intensive) as well.

          1. Timeloose

            Piggies or Glumkie are great. Yes they are a lot of work.

        2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Maybe, Slavic food is just….bad?

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Germanic food, too

          2. Rasilio

            Why do you hate Perogies?

          3. They include potatoes, which makes them cultural appropriation from the Inca

            /intersectionalist.

          4. Nephilium

            And strudel… and schnitzel… and sausages… and pretzels? Alright, it trails off pretty quickly there.

          5. I want to point you to the Schnitzel Ranch in Huntsville Alabama… but they don’t have their own standalone website!

          6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I like perogies as much as the next guy. But, let’s be honest, they’re just the poor man’s gnocchi.

          7. Nephilium

            Cleveland’s got it covered: Das Schnitzel Haus and Der Braumeister. Then there’s Hansa Haus, some others I’m sure I’m just drawing a blank on, and for the touristy German, we’ve even got a Hofbräuhaus.

          8. Rhywun

            Sauerbraten would like a word.

          9. WTF

            Sauerbraten, spaetzle, red cabbage…mmmmm.

          10. MikeS

            I just ate, and yet you are making me hungry again.

          11. wdalasio

            I’d counter with chicken paprikash. But Hungarians aren’t Slavic.

          12. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            “But Hungarians aren’t Slavic”

            That’s what the Hapsburgs seemed to think

          13. juris imprudent

            Magyar is not slavic (learned that at the point of a sabre from my fencing master).

          14. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            “Magyar is not slavic (learned that at the point of a sabre from my fencing master).”

            That’s a pretty bad ass statement.

          15. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin
        3. Mojeaux

          Sauerkraut is gut.

        4. Haluska/i is damn good.

        5. Pope Jimbo

          Figures a kraut lover like you would think that slaws are untermenschen.

          Also, you left out kimchee.

          1. I have no opinion on Kimchee, but I hear it’s overused.

          2. Rhywun

            It’s ruined every Korean dish I’ve ever had, so yeah.

          3. Pope Jimbo

            Kimchee is like cheese. There are a ton of different types out there. The problem for the rubes uninitiated is that if you just order generic kimchi it is a crapshoot if you will get the right type for the meal you are eating.

            Kkakdugi is my favorite kind of kimchi. It is a radish based kimchi (instead of a cabbage based one). My wife has a friend who puts baby octopi in her home made kimchi and that is very good.

          4. Timeloose

            Agreed on the radish based Kimchee. It is hands down my favorite. Reminded me of spicy pickles.

        6. R C Dean

          Mrs. Dean does a shredded cabbage sauteed in butter that is quite good.

    2. wdalasio

      The only thing that mayonnaise doesn’t make better is bacon. And that’s because it’s a physical impossibility to make bacon better.

      1. Nephilium

        The only thing that mayonnaise doesn’t make better is bacon

        You’d probably like Japanese pizza. And I fear any dessert item you would make.

      2. You wouldn’t be using the mayo on the bacon, you’d be using the bacon on the mayo to make bacon mayo.

        1. wdalasio

          Okay, you’re right. The bacon would make the mayo better.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            I made a mayo derivative out of bacon fat a while back.

            It really only works on hot sandwiches.

          2. l0b0t

            I’m having bacon fat on toast right now. Yummy stuff.

      3. Jarflax

        Wdalasio requests Mayobeer next BIF.

        1. Nephilium

          Thanks for causing my stomach to do a slow roll there. That’s even more foul then the concept of white BBQ sauce.

      4. Mayonnaise’s biggest problem is overuse. A nice schmear will add some welcome zest to a sammich, but it can ruin one when it’s splooging out the edges with each bite. I find I have to order ‘no mayo’ and then add the right amount myself, same with mustard. (although with mustard it’s often too little.)

        1. If you can’t taste it, leave it off entirely. If it drowns out the other flavors, leave it off.

          Also, mayo does not provide ‘zest’ in any quantity.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Face it. You are a homophobe.

          You have a problem eating a sandwich just because a bunch of white stuff shoots out of it onto your chin.

          1. I just wanted to type ‘splooge.’

          2. hate_speech

            Maybe he just thinks it’s sacrilege that it didn’t all end up in his mouth?

        3. Rhywun

          Mayonnaise’s biggest problem is overuse.

          See: nearly any fast-food joint.

          1. Not Adahn

            trying again

            Chapter is SFW, most of the rest isn’t.

      5. Chipwooder

        no, but judiciously applied mayo is perfect on a BLT.

        1. I’m sorry, but that is not one of the three listed ingredients.

          *Hands chipwooder tomato and bacon wrapped in a lettuce leaf*

          1. Chipwooder

            You can’t toast the lettuce, therefore I reject your premise.

          2. Your feedback is always welcome.

            *feeds response form into shredder*

            Next!

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      Mixing mayo into cabbage doesn’t make either part better

      *points at Nephilium*

      THIS MAN USES MIRACLE WHIP! THIS IS THE WORM, THAT IS FEEDING ON OUR GREAT SOCIETY

      1. Nephilium

        The hell you say. I have neither mayo or miracle whip or vegan mayo or any other sandwich spread in my fridge. If there is any condiment I overuse it is hot sauce.

  9. Ownbestenemy

    For SoCal glibs… Northwoods Inn red cabbage slaw (vinegar based) and their Cole slaw is by far the best I’ve ever had.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Looking it up now.

    2. Galt1138

      Hmm. Sounds promising. But, the closest one is 43 miles away. Not sure it’s worth it.

  10. Rasilio

    Cole Slaw is at best Meh but typically inedible. Far better is German Slaw or Asian Slaw. If you gave to make cole slaw skip the mayo and use Marie Calendars Cole Slaw dressing.

    And the proper way to eat it with BBQ is pulled pork on a Kings Hawaiian roll

    1. Slaw with pork is the best. It is known.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, I like slaw on a pulled pork sandwich with some bbq.

  11. AlmightyJB

    Best Cole Slaw. Pick up shredded cole slaw mix or shred your own cabbage and carrot if inclined. Mix with Asiago Peppercorn dressing. Just enough dressing so you think you need a touch more. Refrigerate to let slaw soften a bit and get flavorful. Enjoy. If you have a pot luck. You can’t beat the simplicity and people will love.

    https://buy.marzetti.com/Products/Marzetti/Marzetti-Salad-Dressing-Asiago-Peppercorn-16-oz

    1. Playa Manhattan

      What’s the base of that dressing? Ranch?

      1. AlmightyJB

        Yeah, that’s what it looked like to me from the ingredients. I’ve been wanting to try making it myself and planned on using a ranch base. I like it so much better than regular slaw mix which is too sweet for me.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          The slaw dressing they have in the refrigerated section is way too sweet and way too thin for me.

          It looks like…. Well, you know what it looks like.

          1. AlmightyJB

            That’s why I looked for something different. I really like this.

  12. Playa Manhattan

    What about cole slaw in fish tacos?

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        You’re such a hipster, it’s not even funny.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Fish tacos have been around for decades longer that hipsters. You just couldn’t get them in Brooklyn.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Those Mexicans and their undying love for cole slaw

          2. MikeS

            I assume the same can be said for PBR.

          3. l0b0t

            Brooklyn has great MX food that predates the hipsters by a spell. Unfortunately, tilapia is the most commonly encountered fish here so I can’t eat most fish tacos on offer. Convincing gringos that tilapia is edible is the true Montezuma’s Revenge.

          4. Galt1138

            I don’t know about that. Lots of Filipinos eat tilapia.

      2. juris imprudent

        Not cole slaw.

        Slivvered cabbage, but the sauce is not mayo-based. It is crema if done properly or sour cream in a pinch.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I pretty much consider any white stuff on cabbage to be Cole Slaw.

          But yeah, it shout be crema or yogurt based.

      3. mexican sharpshooter

        Indeed.

  13. pistoffnick

    Yeah, you’ve heard of Murphy’s Law, but have you heard of Cole’s Law?




    It’s cabbage mixed with mayonnaise, a little pepper, and (if you are really wild) some poppy seeds.

    I’ll be here all week. Try your waitress. Tip the veal.

    Is this thing on?

    1. Nephilium

      I’ve always seen it written as:

      Cole’s Law: thinly sliced cabbage

    2. BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    3. Michael

      Wow. My anxious urge to somehow atone for my previous comment up-thread has suddenly vanished from my body.

  14. Timeloose

    Jeeze, did we stumble upon the next great Pizza debate.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      Pizza > cole slaw.

  15. Raven Nation

    Quick skim of morning links, but don’t think this has been mentioned: Gordon Banks died this morning.

    The “greatest save of all time”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLam4RAbg8

    1. Playa Manhattan

      To be king of your kitchen, use Crestfield wax paper

  16. Drake

    Keep your damn slaw away from me! Only sauerkraut goes on my reubens and hot dogs.

    1. Mojeaux

      Why would you put cole slaw on reubens and hot dogs?

      Cole slaw has its place. Just not there.

      1. Drake

        I’ve seen it in too many restaurants.

        1. Mojeaux

          blech

      2. Viking1865

        Carolina dog is a hot dog with chili, mustard, and slaw.

    2. Timeloose

      Isn’t the cole slaw version of a ruben called a Rachel?

      1. Rasilio

        That is what I always heard. If it uses kraut it is a Reuben, if it uses slaw it is a Rachel. The Ruben is by far the superior sandwich

        1. Not Adahn

          I thought a Rachel was made with turkey.

      2. Viking1865

        Rachel is usually turkey, swiss, and cole slaw on rye.

    3. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      It should be criminal to put anything on a hot dog beyond onions, mustard, sport peppers, and relish.

      1. I’m sorry, but that answer cannot be accepted.

        Unprocessed vegetable matter is not acceptable accompaniment for hot dogs. Your onions and peppers have to go. Too natural.

        1. Not Adahn

          Sport peppers are processed.

          1. As far as I can tell, they are merely a cultivar.

            If you meant vinegared sport pickles, we might have some agreement.

          2. Not Adahn

            The ones that Chi-towners put on hotdogs come out of jars.

          3. Galt1138

            Yep. Also pepperoncini.

        2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          https://geneandjudes.com/

          Behold, the greatest hot dog establishment in America.

          1. You have just disqualified yourself from ever speaking on the subject again.

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Don’t be jealous

          3. Why would I be jealous? You’re praising some place that doesn’t serve hot dogs. They serve beef sausage.

            Hot dogs are made from pork – specifically the parts of a pig you don’t want to think about the fact that you’re eating, pureed into a fine paste, injected into plastic casings and pre-cooked to solidity.

          4. Cool only 21minutes away, there’s lunch tomorrow. Thanks.

          5. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            You’re welcome

          6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            https://www.yelp.com/biz/paradise-pup-des-plaines

            Also, a good burger place nearby

          7. invisible finger

            Hyp, better get there before 11:30 or after 2 unless you don’t mind a looong line.

          8. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Line always goes quickly. Your only options are hot dog or store bought tamales

          9. invisible finger

            Yeah the line goes somewhat quick but it scares a lot of first-timers. Paradise Pup’s line is friggin long at noon, too.

          10. invisible finger

            Gene & Jude’s would be better if they put tomatoes on, but I don’t see how they could and process as many customers as they do if they did.

          11. Galt1138

            Vienna beef!

            Also, I know it’s a chain. But, I love me some Portillo’s.

        3. nw

          I cut the onion up into small pieces. That’s processing. I’m not putting
          the whole onion on it. I have no idea what a “sport pepper” is.

      2. Chipwooder

        Oh not this silly Chicago shit…….they’re good, but equally good is Carolina style with chili and slaw, or mustard, ketchup and sauerkraut.

        Between the “pizza” and their bizarre fanaticism about hot dogs, people from Chicago are weird,

        1. It isn’t Chicago unless you have the tomato wedge and celery salt as well.

          1. MikeS

            Are we talking hot dogs or Bloody Marys?

          2. Not Adahn

            Not Bloody Marys — no celery stalk.

        2. Nephilium

          For once I need to stand up for Detroit. The Detroit Coney Dog is also good (minus the raw onions). And there’s much to be said about the original Tony Packo’s.

          1. Not Adahn

            No matter what butcher I go to, I can’t find a coney dog made out of actual rabbits.

          2. Democratic Hitler

            Fact check: TRUE

          3. Private Chipperbot

            In my younger days we’d go to Lafayette Coney after the bar for the Jenny Craig plate – coney dog, onions, mustard, a “Loose” (hamburger in hot dog bun with coney sauce), and coney fries with cheese.

      3. B.P.

        Chicago dogs are awesome. Although so are all sorts of other styles of dogs.

        1. Chipwooder

          Exactly. There are many delicious fashions of hot dogs.

          One of my favorite local places serves a bacon wrapped, deep fried hot dog topped with pulled pork, BBQ sauce, and cole slaw.

          1. MikeS

            Pull the hotdog out of there and it sounds delicious!

          2. Democratic Hitler

            Oh that sounds good, but I’d replace the slaw with some mac & cheese.

          3. Nephilium

            Get thee to Columbus, OH, and build your own heart stopping monster dog.

          4. Democratic Hitler

            That looks like some fine eatin.

      4. Democratic Hitler

        No chili dogs? GTFO with this nonsense.

        1. Ignore him, he’s trolling.

        2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          No. You GTFO

          1. Nephilium

            /threatens the Apologist with currywurst

        3. Tres Cool

          Oh, I may as well…..

          https://www.skylinechili.com/coneys.php

          *ahem*

          1. Rasilio

            Someone needs to tell Cincinnatti to stop embarrassing themselves by calling that Chili

          2. Bobarian LMD

            Sky line doesn’t serve chili.

      5. Sport peppers? What, are they six-speed manuals or something?

        If you swap peppers with ketchup, that’s my idea of a standard hotdog configuration. Except it’s missing sauerkraut.

      6. l0b0t

        Bacon and cheese goes on hot dogs you Philistines.

  17. Scruffy Nerfherder
    1. Oh goody. Another woke rehash.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      They seem determined to keep remaking movies with all the genders swapped until they finally get a hit aren’t they?

      Maybe the secret would be to take a terrible movie and gender swap it. Then they wouldn’t alienate a shit ton of fans and could maybe do a decent movie.

      1. They don’t want to make a decent movie, they want to bludgeon the public into obeying their betters in hollywood.

        1. Drake

          My wife keeps asking if there are any good movies playing. I keep saying “no”.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Maybe Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot! would work.

        1. Chipwooder

          Cop and a Half!

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            oh jeezus, I forgot about that one

        2. Rasilio

          Stop or my Dad will shoot doesn’t have the same ring to it

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Stop Or My Trans-Mom Will Shoot!

        3. Rasilio

          How about instead of Grumpy Old Men we could have Bitchy Old Women

          1. Chipwooder

            I’m pretty sure there has already been a bunch of versions of that one.

      3. Chipwooder

        You do hit on something I’ve never understood – why the burning desire to remake movies that were good? It would make more sense to find a movie with an interesting concept or storyline that should have been good but wasn’t, and try to improve it.

        1. The studio wants money. Remaking a shitty movie is a risk. Raping a fanbase with nostalgia bait isn’t currently seen as one.

          1. Chipwooder

            Which makes no sense since the Girl Power version of Ghostbusters lost money.

          2. It makes sense to you and to me that a movie with a good story well acted is going to be a better moneymaker. But hollywood is a fucked up insular community where a non-negligable portion of people who should know better probably believe that movie lost money because of misogyny and bots.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            The particularly stupid thing with this remake is that it was already a “feminist” movie. The female protagonist wins the contest of who is the best con artist at the end.

          4. I don’t follow youtube links from Glibs, so I’m not sure what original you’re referring to.

          5. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

        2. In fairness, there are only like five different stories possible, if someone has written a particularly good take on one of them it makes sense to copy that version instead of an inferior model.

          1. Democratic Hitler

            Back in my day they could at least compete with each other on special effects and explosions.

            Nowadays it’s all this god-awful completely unwatchable CGI shit.

        3. robc

          ind a movie with an interesting concept or storyline that should have been good but wasn’t

          The Man with One Red Shoe.

          It would be so fucking perfect if one side was the Trump Administration and the other was Mueller’s investigation team.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            I believe the original (The Tall Blond Man with One Black Shoe) was good, but the Tom Hanks was ‘iffy’?

          2. robc

            I think iffy is pushing it. It was pretty awful.

            The original is french, right?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            Oui!

          4. Private Chipperbot
      4. Not Adahn

        But… what about a Dukes of Hazzard remake with TWO Daisys and only ONE Bo and/or Luke? Uncle Jesse can be replaced with some sort of MILF. And of course “Crazy Cooter” needs no explanation…

        1. WTF

          This man is a genius.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Already done. I think they called that “Thelma and Louise”.

          2. Not Adahn

            Susan Sarandon <<<<<< Catherine Bach

          3. Bobarian LMD

            She was the Tom Wopat in the equation, though.

            Brad Pitt was Catherine Bach.

        2. Not Adahn

          The Roscoe character would be one of those Naughty Cop types who keeps trying to arrest, handcuff and discipline the Duke sisters…

          …and of course, Boss Hogg would be played by Lena Dunham.

        3. Democratic Hitler

          With Melissa McCarthy as Boss Hogg?!

          /hollywood

      5. They can stop, since they succeeded in 1940 with His Girl Friday.

        (I don’t know if Miss Brewster’s Millions was a hit.)

  18. Titty Tuesday continues as I continue to slam cough syrup.

    http://archive.is/wJNTH

  19. Timeloose

    Food lab’s take. I agree about the moisture content. Cole slaw shouldn’t be a liquid.

    https://www.seriouseats.com/2013/07/the-food-lab-how-to-make-the-best-creamy-cole-slaw.html

    1. Chipwooder

      Oh bullshit, that’s what rolls and biscuits are for, soaking up the slaw juice.

      1. Why would you waste rolls and biscuits on that when they could be mopping up far better sauces?

      2. Timeloose

        I see this is going to be a rough topic. I fully agree that soaking up tasty liquids with tortillas, biscuits, corn bread, Italian buttered bread or brioche rolls is sometimes the best part of the meal.

        1. No argument there. Rolls and biscuits are there to soak up the juice. It’s a similar role as the one played by Yorkshire puddings, if you make them right, it’s just accomplished after the fact.

  20. I was browsing Zillow (slow day), and sorted by lot size.

    Turns out some of the people who add their property to the site are… pretty damn stupid.

    Lot size: 177 acres.
    Lot Width: 100 Feet.
    Lot Depth: 177 feet.

    1. Democratic Hitler

      Duh, obviously it’s 17,700 acres. Morans.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        How deep is it?

  21. mikey

    Hey Mojeaus. Have you seen this article in Quillete? SJ Warriors destroying Pitch Wars. And people say Ayn Rand’s characters were just cardboard cutouts ( the heros, maybe the villains she got right).

    1. mikey

      Mojeaux – singular.

    2. Mojeaux

      *sigh* What a clusterfuck. I woulda shut the damned thing down. Who needs that noise?

      It seems these writers, who couldn’t spare a paltry entrance fee, felt that we owed them those hours and hours of our unpaid time.

      In the past, the entrance fee was the cost of paper, envelopes, postage. You know what? That adds up.

      Then you could do it all by email.

      Now they think they’re owed editing and a book deal.

      Privileged brats.

      Fuck you, publish yourself if you think you’re that fucking special.

      1. My problem is – writing books is easy – writing a pitch is impossible.

        1. Mojeaux

          I think everybody has that problem.

          “Well, you see, this happened and then this happened and then this–”

          “But what is the book ABOUT?”

          “Two people falling in love.”

          “Yes, but how–”

          “Well, this happens and then that happens and then something else…”

          1. Rasilio

            It is a deconstruction of the cic-heteronormativce patriarchy told through the lens of a young boy who flees his toxically masculine homeland and takes up with a racially diverse caravan of outsiders who help him come to terms with who he really is allowing him to find love, happiness, and his true power as he transitions to a woman.

            What do you think my odds of getting published are?

          2. wdalasio

            What do you think my odds of getting published are?

            From the sound of it? Pretty good. The odds of selling many copies of the actual book? Well, that’s not quite so optimistic.

          3. Mojeaux

            Make it a romance, and he’s got it made in the shade.

          4. Not Adahn

            Hugo award winner!

      2. mikey

        Yeah, I kept thinking “walk the f away!” She started by apologizing for the fee and, of course, it only went downhill from there. Never apologize.

    3. wdalasio

      From the article:

      But it was a strange and disconcerting experience to see these publishing professionals gleefully joining the mobbing of a contest that, only a year before, had brought them clients with ready-to-submit manuscripts.

      But, we can’t understand why publishing is a dying industry. It must be all those uncultured oafs in flyover country not being willing to read books.

  22. B.P.

    Now trending on the Firefox feed that is trying to shape my mind: I was a Facebook Fact-checker…

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/brookebinkowski/fact-checking-facebook-doomed

    “Disinformation isn’t necessarily meant for you. It’s meant for the people who lean authoritarian, the fearful conformists and the perennially anxious. It’s for weapons hoarders and true believers and the scary uncle that no one in the family talks to any more.

    It’s the reason why Americans are still relitigating 2016 and Britons are still arguing over Brexit.”

    “fearful conformists”… I’m sure she thinks of herself as a brave and independent thinker.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      My general take is that if you’re getting your news on Facebook, you’re already an irredeemable idiot.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      There is nothing more rebellious that parroting the opinions held by the most influential and materially privileged people in society

    3. leon

      It’s for weapons hoarders and true believers and the scary uncle that no one in the family talks to any more.

      Why is it ok to hate on uncles so much? That is not OK.

      Anyway. I like that it’s the “Weapons hoarders” that are the ones who lean authoritarian. There are crazies in every group, but authoritarian isn’t what i would use to label 2A proponents.

      1. Democratic Hitler

        You have to look at this from the author’s point of view. For her, “authoritarian” means a christian religious person. There is no such thing as “authoritarian” government, that’s just good common sense following your betters.

    4. wdalasio

      Disinformation isn’t necessarily meant for you. It’s meant for the people who lean authoritarian, the fearful conformists and the perennially anxious. It’s for weapons hoarders and true believers and the scary uncle that no one in the family talks to any more.

      Actually, that could be said, much more accurately, of the whole fact-checking enterprise. Reading the article, it’s pretty clear that one of her biggest objections is that she was only checking facts and not the narrative. It’s the conformist who insists his worldview must be the established fact, rather than letting people sort out the messy task of separating fact and fiction for themselves.

  23. Cole slaw is the emm effing man. The best dressing is, of course, mayo-based, possibly with a touch of red wine or cider vinegar, possibly with a smidgeon of Dijon mustard. A very close second is a vinegar-based dressing, especially if you like a sweet slaw, using white or cider vinegar and, again, the barest hint of Dijon mustard. There’s a place for a finely-diced slaw, I suppose, but I prefer a shred to a dice myself. Also, cole slaw on hotdogs is inspired. Then again, I put mayo on pretty much everything, so your mileage may vary.

  24. Nephilium

    Pro-tip: If you’re turning off systems, make sure to tell the groups responsible for monitoring the systems that you’re turning off an entire CUCM cluster. The alert management team had three different agents reaching out to me to see what was going on. Call the client, and get a, “Oh… we’re going to be decommissioning that system soon.”

    “We can’t ping any of the devices, do you think maybe they started turning it off already?”

    “I’m not sure, but we’ve already migrated the users off of it.”

  25. PieInTheSky

    While I have spoken before on the inherent inferiority of wheat beer. but let it not be said that Pie tries not new things. This is my review of Einstök Ölgerð Icelandic white ale, brewed with coriander and orange peel. it is not that bad but not that good either. Meh.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      It sounds pretty meh. But I bet if they sell it around here it would sell out.

      1. Private Chipperbot

        We have them in Michigan. The white is pretty good around Christmas time when I’m in the mood for those winter warmer type beers.

    2. Democratic Hitler

      Does it make a good slaw dressing, or not?

    3. Not Adahn

      I am not a fan of the citrus + coriander seed thing. Then again, I’m not a fan of citrusy or piney hops either.

    4. PieInTheSky

      Crew republic drunken sailor IPA is better by wirtue of being an IPA but it is also kinda meh. Should have stuck with the zweigelt. Styrian wines are not that bad. Had a few yesterday and today but decided to come back to the hotel and bought the two beer. Bad choice. Also why does the spell check wanna correct Styrian to Stygian?

    5. robc

      Sounds like a wit.

      RIP Pierre Celis.

    6. hate_speech

      I agree with your opinion on wheat beers, but as a native to Maine, I have to say that Allagash White is the superior breakfast beer. Particularly on a sunny summer morning, sitting at an ocean-side bar / breakfast joint.

    7. DEG

      Einstök makes good beer. I don’t remember seeing that one.

  26. Creosote Achilles

    I will possibly have to scrape some of the tar off my heel for saying this, but I have no like of cole slaw. I make a good bb

    1. Creosote Achilles

      …a good bbq cole slaw with my bbq sauce, (In proper NC style), and others seem to love it. But I simply can’t even.

  27. Spudalicious

    No mayo. Briana’s poppy seed dressing and lime juice to cut the sweetness. Just enough to coat, no gloppy allowed. Parsley if it’s going on a pulled pork sandwich, cilantro if it’s going on tacos.

  28. But Enough About Me

    I loved all forms of BBQ last time I was in the ‘States (and making an extreme pig of myself), but I have to admit when I got a properly-done brisket in Fort Worth, Texas, I pretty much had a foodgasm then and there. Sadly, it’s too difficult to properly replicate up here in the Lower Rainland, which, er, is getting a proper snowstorm right now, weirdly enough.

    1. Timeloose

      I started making BBQ chuck roasts as well as brisket. They are easier to find, more forgiving, usually less expensive if you screw it up, and come out with great flavor if done right.

  29. Chipwooder

    Off topic for this thread but related to the weepy man story in the last one: this does not appear to be satire. It’s the story of a soyboy whose attempts at a totally woke, feminist date were stymied by this chick who probably is a MAGA white supremacist.

    1. hate_speech

      My favorite response: If she were real though she’d be getting pounded by an alpha chad right this second.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s funny.

      2. Chipwooder

        And afterwards, she’d laugh as she told him this story: “Oh my GOD, you would not believe the date I had with this fuckin’ candyass….”

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      “The men go on and make complete fools of themselves using outdated (even for the time) stereotypes of gay men to try to determine who it is. And they are proven wrong in the end. It was a powerful social commentary that is still relevant today, almost 30 years later”

      Prediction: This guy has never been past second base. He came close to third base with the girl he went to high school prom with, but she got fed-up with him asking for affirmative consent the whole time they were making out.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        He’s a douche, a self-righteous, navel-gazing douche who thinks being “feminist” will score him morality and popularity points, hence why he published all of his antics on Twitter.

        1. hate_speech

          It’s especially telling that he’s crediting Tropes v Women for its insights and helping him look more deeply into media. At best that shit is shallow and banal. At best.

          1. Not Adahn

            Oh, you’ve noticed similarities between “Legend of Zelda” and the story of Andromeda and Perseus? Congratulations on making it to the seventh grade/

          2. hate_speech

            Is it even that deep? I always think of her riveting commentary on how Batman’s cape covers his ass, but you can see Catwoman’s because she wears tight leather with no cape. Truly the modern era’s Marshal Mcluhan (however the fuck you spell that).

          3. Not Adahn

            If the cape covers the ass simply edit out the cape at strategic times

          4. hate_speech

            Takes more work than complaining and is probably worth less money.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Notorious S.M.I.R.K.

      @JJDoebler
      3h3 hours ago
      More
      HAHAHAHAHAHAH EVEN TRYING TO BE AN ALLY THEY STILL HATE YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      OOF. Lesson: don’t tuck your balls for a date.

    4. SugarFree

      Talked too much, Virgin mistake. Women don’t go on dates to hear you talk, they go on dates to hear themselves talk.

  30. Mad Scientist

    Nothing good has ever been made with cabbage. Not. One. Single. Thing.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Ummmm….Cabbage Patch Kids

    2. MikeS

      Cabbage farts.

      1. Spudalicious

        Especially if beer and grilled sausage is involved.

    3. Not Adahn

      You know that, other than grass, cabbage is the most important food in all of human history, right?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_U

      A human who doesn’t like cabbage is, just like one who doesn’t love dogs, a genetically defective primate.

      1. Rhywun

        Why couldn’t a bunch of species that actually taste good have interbred?

    4. Democratic Hitler

      The existence of egg rolls invalidates your entire theory.

      1. Spudalicious

        Which makes MS a racist.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          HEY!!

          Oh, you mean Mad Scientist. Carry on.

    5. DEG

      Sauerkraut has a sad.

  31. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    OT from cole slaw (aka. “salad for fat people”):

    https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1095343326314840064

    MSNBC

    “NEW: Exclusive: Senate Intel Cmte. is approaching the end of its investigation into 2016 election having uncovered no direct evidence of a conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia, according to Democrats and Republicans on the cmte.”

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      No one with at least half of a brain should be surprised by this, but you’d be surprised how many conspiracy theorists occupy the realms of “respectable” “journalism”

      1. Democratic Hitler

        On the one hand, I cannot wait for this to *formally* fall apart and on the other hand, I already know that progressives and the media will hand-wave it away as if they never were all that concerned about it, whereas the REAL issue with Trump is income inequality, or putting babies in cages, or whateverthefuck they deem to move on to next.

        1. Rhywun

          The Dems haven’t even got started with their own investigations yet.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Fake news. This is all fake news!

      Cole slaw is not salad for fat people. Salad for fat people are: the taco salad, fruit salad, potato salad, and macaroni salad.

  32. nw

    It’s not cole slaw, but it’s food…

    I’m trying to be a better cook, so I’ve been experimenting. I’ve been
    watching Gordon Ramsey’s cooking at home show, which is good for
    ideas. Today for lunch I made a braised top sirloin with a red wine
    reduction sauce. Fifteen minutes and it was awesome, and all in one
    pan. More of a dinner dish, but we went to costco yesterday, and
    I’ve got a lot of beef to use. It was a rehearsal for Thursday more than
    anything.

    Cooking’s really not that hard, and it’s really nice when something
    just works. I find it makes going out to eat harder though, since I
    want to find something on the menu that I wouldn’t just make at
    home, and that gets more and more difficult as time goes by.

    1. Tundra

      Good for you! That sounds like a great lunch. I had leftover jerk chicken and it was fantastic.

      Despite his wokeness, Kenji at the food lab does a good job of teaching us rubes how to make some pretty good stuff. Lots on techniques there, too.

      I love grilling, so amazingribs.com has been a terrific resource, too. As you say, it isn’t hard to learn, but definitely fucks up restaurant experiences!

      Good luck and have fun!

    2. Rasilio

      Cooking is easy, Baking is hard

      1. Chipwooder

        I agree. Love to cook because I don’t have to be precise, hate to bake because you can’t just throw some stuff together and make it come out well.

        1. kinnath

          works for brewing

        2. robc

          I am more of a baking person.

          Brewing is more like baking than cooking.

        3. Mojeaux

          I hate cooking. I do not mind baking. There is something deeply satisfying about putting cookies you baked into your children’s lunches, knowing they would rather have your cookies than anybody else’s.

          1. Tundra

            We could co-exist. I hate baking.

            But yes, success is always gratifying.

            We were at a really nice steak place and Spawn 1 leaned over to say “your steaks are better, Dad.”

          2. Mojeaux

            My son loves my marinara and my stroganoff. My daughter won’t touch either.

            However, every time I make marinara, I make a whole stockpot of it. Ginormous. Boy has sucked it down within 24 hours. MAYBE my husband and I got 2 (small) meals out of it each. So while I am happy Little Dude is in heaven, the rate at which he eats it gets expensive and wears me out making it.

      2. Nephilium

        They’re different skill sets, with different things that are important. For cooking, it’s more important to know how the flavors will work together and how to deal with certain ingredients. Baking is all about temperature control, and knowing how different ingredients work together and make changes to your finished product. Both can deal with improvisation, if you understand what you’re changing, why you’re making the change, and what impact it will have on the final product.

  33. DrOtto

    Bill Miller BBQ, bland BBQ, sublime fried chicken, the best slaw you’ll ever eat. There is neither mayo nor miracle whip, just cider vinagar in it’s place.

    1. Not Adahn

      I have no idea how Bill Miller stays in business. Especially in cities that have Rudy’s.

    2. Timeloose

      Bill Miller BBQ was not good. There never seemed to be any meat smoking on site, so I assume it was done elsewhere.

      Corpus used to have a Miller’s BBQ that was pretty good,

      http://www.millersbarbqweber.com/

      1. Nephilium

        We’ve had an influx of the small chain BBQ places coming up into Cleveland, at the same time our own local BBQ places start ramping up. It’s led to an entertaining little battle. The chains include Dickie’s, Mission BBQ, and Old Carolina. Locally we’ve got Michael Symon’s Mabel’s, Barabicu, and more. Then of course there’s all of the butcher shops that make their own sausages and pierogis.

        1. Mojeaux

          I hate Dickey’s.

        2. robc

          Does Symon spend enough time in Cleveland to cook anything?

          1. Nephilium

            Probably not. At this point, it’s more branding and his recipes. I mean, he’s got a place in Vegas now. At least his burger places still fry everything in lard, even though they added the impossible burger to the menu.

  34. Gustave Lytton

    Plate of shredded cabbage with kewpie on top, & a side of katsu.

    1. Sensei

      Funny, was thinking the same thing!

  35. Pope Jimbo

    So slaw on pickled pigs feet or not?

  36. Chipwooder

    The LA-SF California choo-choo is no more. Newsome says they’re still building the Merced to Bakersfield line that absolutely no one is going to ride.

    1. Viking1865

      I actually think a high speed rail line that was a true inter city system could be profitable. Like, you get on in LA, and it shot straight to SF, with no stops along the way. Road miles per Google Maps between LA and SF is 382, so basically you need to average 350 MPH to beat the 1.5 hour flight between the two, and beat the ~80 dollar ticket cost.

      The issue with high speed rail is that it’s economically, IMO, viable as a city to city connector, but politically it’s only viable with lots and lots of stops….which ruins the the actual high speed aspect. If your train makes 15 stops between LA and SF, it’s not high speed, it’s just a commuter train that goes slightly faster in between repeated stops.

      Of course, the only reason rail is even somewhat talked about is the fucking FAA and TSA have destroyed the potential of American aviation through their stupidity.

      1. kinnath

        I want my Uber Air.

        1. robc

          Isn’t that what fractional jets are?

          1. kinnath

            No. I don’t need to buy a 1/4th of a car to call Uber.

          2. Dr Mossy Lawn

            You can rent by the hour. But with no equity the per/hr will be higher.

            The smaller hour plane cards aren’t equity positions. It is just pre-paid to get some bulk discount.

        2. Bobarian LMD

          A drone will be along shortly to service you.

          With a hellfire.

    2. Rhywun

      And he says abandoning that portion of the project would require the state to return $3.5 billion in federal dollars.

      LOL. He’s just ripping the mask off and stomping on it at this point.

  37. DEG

    Cole Slaw. The most hated of slaws, but why?

    ?!?!?!

    I like cole slaw.

    1. mexican sharpshooter
  38. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1095417688443289601

    Dave Waddle found guilty by a jury of his peers?

    1. Rhywun

      LOL

    2. Bobarian LMD

      I thought he was peerless?

    3. Chipwooder

      What does Ron Jeremy have to do with anything?

    4. SugarFree

      He calls it his “flavor saver.”

      1. SugarFree

        Because when he wakes up, it usually still has a little bit of nacho cheese in it from the night before.

    5. Fatty Bolger

      LMAO… I was sipping coffee when I clicked that, barely managed not to spray my monitor.

  39. Lachowsky

    Cole slaw is best served on pizza.

    1. AlmightyJB

      With pineapple?