Setting aside every ounce of cynicism that I possibly can, I’m able to address the economic left and economic right on their stated views of prosperity.
Specifically, the economic left assumes that extraneous factors (luck) are the driving force behind prosperity (and paucity). The economic right assumes that hard work is the driving force behind prosperity, and the lack of hard work is the driving force behind paucity.
As is always the case, reality is somewhere in the middle. For every Jobian sob story the left trots out in their parade of horrors and for every Paris Hilton they shame, there are thousands… tens of thousands… of everyday people who have worked hard, weathered the uncertainties of life, and retired comfortably as millionaires.
Personally, I think the economic right is closer to the truth than the economic left. As Roger Penske said, “(Good) luck is when preparation meets opportunity.” A barista with an oppression studies degree isn’t a victim of bad luck. She’s suffering the consequences of her poor decision making. Somebody who makes a ton of money in the stock market isn’t “lucky” as much as they’re reaping the benefits of their preparation.
This isn’t to say that I don’t think that people get royally fucked or incredibly lucky. However, my personal observation is that most “bad luck” is a result of shortsightedness and a lack of risk management. Most “good luck” is observed by an envious person who doesn’t see the hard work required to achieve good things. The one situation where my belief in personal responsibility wavers ever so slightly is in kids and teenagers. It’s a tall task to ask an 18 year old who has grown up in a financially illiterate family and a financially illiterate culture, with all of the incentives pointing in the direction of financial ruin, to grow up, make good decisions, and not fuck up.
However, there are three reasons why government has no business getting involved. First is that when you’re the primary cause for fucking up the culture, you shouldn’t have a voice in the solution. The modern economic left fucked up a variety of American cultures’ perception of money over the past 75 years. They have no leg to stand on when they complain about the results of their own idiocy. Second is this is exactly the right place for private charity. Cutting financial illiterates a check is idiotic and amplifies the cultural defects that cause the financial illiteracy. However, private charities are much more likely to condition any financial assistance on learning financial literacy. Third is that in 21st century United States of America, you get to fuck up quite a few times financially before you’re screwed for life. People have come around at age 50 or later and still have been able to retire with dignity. An 18 year old has 40 years to have their “come to Jesus” moment and live on less than they earn, and they’ll still be able to shop in the produce section for groceries instead of the cat food section.
“Oh, but they can’t get a decent job with a living wage.” Bullshit. First, that’s exactly the kind of “bad luck” that is actually poor decision making causing completely foreseeable consequences. If you haven’t gotten your GED, it’s not bad luck keeping from getting beyond minimum wage. Second, I’ve met people who have saved enough for a comfortable retirement as janitors, in retail, and in fast food. Y’know what they did? They lived austere lives, took very few risks, spent less than they made, and invested for decades. I remember hearing a story of a janitor who averaged less than $50k annually over his career, and retired a millionaire.
“Oh, but the American dream is dead, you can’t do that anymore.” Bullshit, again. I think there’s a massive divide in my millennial cohort, and I think that this divide articulates why the American dream isn’t dead. Looking at my classmates from high school and college, the divide is simple. Those who learned uncommon skills are making bank and those who did not learn uncommon skills are mooching off their parents and supporting Bernie. Obviously the dividing line isn’t as stark as I’m describing it, but it’s a pretty strong difference. Classmates with education and humanities degrees are struggling to progress beyond beverage arts. Classmates with STEM and business degrees are finding career jobs.
Where’s the luck in that? Well, I guess you could call being born to parents who cared enough to call a spade a spade good luck. I guess you could call a mathematical aptitude and a disdain for the easy way good luck. However, that massively undercredits personal agency. That’s really the issue, isn’t it? The left seems to believe that agency occurs where opportunity fates it. If you succeed, it’s because you are privileged with good fortune (in the traditional Greek conception of the term). If you fail, it’s because the fates have conspired against you. They double down on this rejection of agency for young people. They assume that a 15-20 year old (or 26 year old) is incapable of exerting control on their own life. Nevermind the fact that adolescence is a new concept, teenagers are made out as completely unequipped to make adult decisions. Much of this is the fault of a failed education system and a culture of irresponsibility, but the fact remains that the average 17 year old is treated more like their 12 year old sibling than like their 21 year old sibling.
I often think back to my high school and college days. There were many times when I passed up fun (as a 15-20 year old) to achieve something more important. I remember getting out of bed at 5am on a Saturday to hop on a bus and drive up to Testicle State for a math competition and to hop on a bus to Rose Hulman for a robotics competition. I remember sitting in a restaurant across from the campus bars on a Tuesday night, watching the education major girls lined up for another night of drunken dancing , knowing full well that I’d pass them during their walks of shame the next morning as I walked back from then engineering lab after pulling an all-nighter. We both got fucked, them much more literally than me. I had my fun, I wasn’t anhedonic, but when the left tries to paint my millennial cohort as victims of a student loan crisis, I think back to those images burned in my memory. Are they victims of bad luck, or were they just immature idiots poorly prepared for adulthood?
Once you cut out all the fluff, it comes down to a simple piece of introspection. Are you a victim in your personal narrative, or are you a hero? The left self-identifies as victims. The right self-identifies as heroes. As with all things in the real world, the truth is a bit of both.
Thanks to the admin who did the images for me! Top notch work!
When I was a 40 year old college student one of the student union kids, about 20 or so, was complaining about her SAT scores beacause she was left handed and had to use a right handed desk. I called her out for making stupid excuses and I don’t recall that she ever joined our coffee drinking circle again.
Thanks for your article and thanks to the admin as well
“When I was a 40 year old college student”
And I thought I was a late starter for graduating at 37.
Ditto. Makes me feel like less of a schmuck.
So…Fourscore is the bigger schmuck?
?
I’ll have you know there is NO bigger schmuck than I!
Not sure Nap, get off my lawn!
I was 41, took 14 years after I started my first class. Some of us are slooooooooooooooow.
Well, I liked college so much I stayed in it for, oh, twenty years. In my very limited defense, a good chunk of that time was part-time. But, it was also a product of my not being focused, changing majors often, taking semesters off to work and dick around, an ill-considered period where I wanted to become a professional chef, stuff like that.
Completely understood
I did manage to graduate in 4.5 years despite working a full time job the entire time. So I give myself credit there. I still remember sitting in econ and accounting during a lecture at 9PM after working all day and writing papers all weekend. Pretty much having no life at all outside of work and school for nearly 5 years. Paid off well though.
I’m probably the oldest in my MBA program at 42.
I think my wife has you beat if you include law school. I think she was 47 when she graduated. She has 2 bachelors, a masters, a PhD, and the law degree. I feel under edumencated.
The girlfriend just finished her bachelors degree at 41. I’m the college drop out.
I’ll be 44 when I’m through
I felt like a loser for taking 5 years to get a BA because 3 of them were a complete waste of time.
The secret to success is that “liberation” is learning the lesson that “everything that goes wrong in your life is your fault”.
If not one’s fault at least one’s responsibility.
Jordan Peterson caught a ton of flack for saying that, but it’s true. Whether something is your fault isn’t really relevant; you are the person responsible for reacting to the things that happen to you.
^^^^THIS^^^^
I’ve reached the point where I can only be combative when people bitch about their lives. So I’ve taken to being direct that it is all their fault.
In reality, it’s no one’s fault for having their house wiped out by a tornado. But it’s definitely their fault if they are not insured.
I planted 3 apple trees a couple days ago. Optimist or stupid?
Yes.
What kind of apples?
A Norland, a Haralson and a Haralred. The Norland is Zone 2, the others Zone 3. They are near 2 crab apples, a Whitney and I forget the other one, small red crabs
Not a lot of choice at Menard’s
I like Haralson. They great in cider and apple pies.
I have to drive halfway to Minnesota to get them. I’m not far enough north for them to produce their true flavor.
Last year, I tried a Gold Rush for the first time.
Who knew the midwest could make the best apple ever?
Investor
But did you SAVE BIG MONEY? (Can’t believe I actually miss those commercials!)
Who’s Tyrone?
He dindunuthin. It was his cousin did dat shit.
The President of Kekistan
Tyrone
Not this one?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SWVG6dUdn1I
No, this one.
Tyrone
I went looking for him but found Chapelle first.
The nation’s first benefactor of the PRP (Pimp Relocation Program)?
“Hard work or luck, which is it? The pathway to prosperity.”
A lot of one and a little of the other, typically. I don’t even have to say which is which.
Yep – My Dad who worked his way up for Loan Officer to Bank President said it was just that combination.
Most people pretend they work hard and feel slighted when others don’t think they are really doing so… In my experience people that really work hard (and produce results, which my dad used to refer to as working smart) always will find a way to get ahead, regardless of the adversities they face.
Shit, the most important lessons I learned in life came from my failures and mistakes. Success hs not really thought me anything of value.
Nicely put.
I believe that there is such a thing as luck, or rather that we use luck as a mental shorthand for the array of causes and effects through time that produce outcomes we see but didn’t anticipate. But, like you say, if you major in education because you figure there’s job security and you’ll make decent money, or if you, say, major in political science because for some reason you think there’s a job waiting for you after graduating where you’ll be hired to just give the government advice about international politics on the basis of personal interest and a Bachelor’s degree (not that I know anything whatsoever about that), that’s not bad luck, that’s bad decision-making. Or, it’s inefficient or unrealistic goal-setting. Or it’s making decisions on the basis of faulty or incomplete data. Whatever it is, it isn’t some sort of metaphysical banana peel on the sidewalk.
Luck typically involves being in the right place at the right time and taking advantage of it. Most of us just miss most of those opportunities and so don’t get ‘lucky’ that often.
/taking advantage of it/
Making a decision that turns out beneficial. Its making a conscious effort and decision making
I am a firm believer in “right place, right time” and definitely would label that as a luck component. the other component is actually recognizing the opportunity and taking advantage of it (through hard work). I however don’t believe it is bad luck not to realize their was an opportunity.
It’s like fishing. Unless you’ve got a line in the water when the fish come by you’re not going to catch shit.
It’s better to set up weirs and traps so you don’t have to spend all your time sitting on the bank waiting for the fish to bite.
weirs and traps
That’s an odd autocorrect for “dynamite”.
dynamite
That’s an odd autocorrect for M-80.
Fuck that. Dynamite the freaking thing and scoop up the rewards with a net.
Permanant structures might not be exciting, but you’ll keep catching fish for centuries.
That’s the luck part, knowing where the fish hang out is going to help a lot. What’s the rule? 15 % of the fishermen catch 85% of the fish or something like that? Fishing from the couch usually isn’t too productive.
That’s because 15% of the fishermen are moving around just like the fish do, and not just sitting on the bank in a lawn chair all day.
Look, we invented money so I could pay someone else to bring me fish.
True dat. My dad had two modes of fishing, and the one I saw most often involved a cooler of beer, a chair, a couple of rods, and a Y-shaped sticks. Find bank, install sticks, cast rods, and start sippin’. If a fish happens by, great.
I didn’t even know there was such a thing as a baitcasting reel until I was 30. I just figured if you were casting more than once every fifteen minutes or so you didn’t have the patience required.
Did you eventually figure out that your dad just wanted to sit in a lawn chair and drink beer without people bothering him?
Shh, you’ll spook the fish.
My method was always cast several times and if you don’t get a hit, move to the next spot, repeat same until catching fish. When stop catching fish move again. After I would know a certain body of water enough, I could almost always predict exactly where the fish would be at a certain time of day and how likely they would be caught depending on time of year/water temperature, water level, clarity, and weather patterns. It’s a science for sure.
greatest lie that man ever pulled on women was that fish could hear.
Yeah, I mean, he caught fish pretty regularly, but the main feature for him was sitting out in the woods by a creek in the quiet.
Now, my father in law, he’s a different story. He’s got a bass boat, sonar, the works. When he goes out to catch fish, he means to catch fish. And he doesn’t mess with live bait because that’s not enough of a challenge; it’s lures only for him.
There’s two different kinds of fishing:
(1) I’m out here to catch fish.
(2) I’m out here to enjoy the day, beer, and my buddies. Fish are a bonus, and mostly useful so me and my buddies can give each other shit.
(3) Spending the day walking the river keeps me murder-free!
I have been walking the rivers and streams on the eastern slopes of the Rockies most of my life, sometimes fishing, sitting on rocks and smoking, and sometimes lost. Fishing streams for a day is like taking a week off work.
Love it. My son used to get annoyed with me because he’s trying so hard to catch fish while I’m eating an apple and watching an eagle fly by. I told him someday he will get it.
He’s learning the rivers, streams and reservoirs out there, too.
A friend of mine took me out charter fishing with him and it blew my mind. We got up and out on the water just before dawn–so far, so good, that’s normal fishing–and then we proceed to watch the mate set up a bunch of rods while we just sit in the cockpit getting shitty on Beast Ice and shootin’ the shit. Now and again somebody hands us a rod to reel in. It was fun, but it didn’t feel like fishing.
Did that once on Lake O’ The Woods. Booooooooooooooooring
Booooooooooooooooring
STEVE SMITH MAKE MORE INTERESTING.
Yup.
For example, if the housing market crashed tomorrow, I wouldn’t be able to take advantage of it to get a good deal on our next house. Is that bad luck? No, that’s a string of decisions stretching back 5 years that have put us in a position where we probably need another 7 or 8 years until we can upgrade in house.
Was the fact that we made $70k in two years on our previous house good luck? The extent of the gain was outside of what I expected, but we got into the market before we were truly ready because I was seeing signs of a housing recovery and impending local boom. It was a gamble that paid off.
The housing market in this area, sucks right now. Everything is over priced. Most of my friends who were here for a long time or born and raised here, bought homes 20-30 years ago when they were affordable. The house they paid 100k for would be 400k now.
I’ve sort of lucked out here ‘n’ there in life – lucky enough to be born to a fairly well-to do family so going to college was never a financial stretch. Lucky to get a CS degree right when the whole internet thing took off and companies wanted programmers. Lucky *enough to meet EF when I was 17, who is smarter than I am and made it through law school with LH Jr and myself wishing she could spend more time with us. Lucky to have a real estate agent find me the cheapest house in an expensive neighborhood; a rental that needed a bunch of TLC.
But there has also been a lot of suffering and hard work there too – dealing with my son’s Autism, the early times we were desperately poor. the adoption plan that fell through, friends dead or who moved on from my orbit, when the law school bills came due, some minor health issues on my part, and just the drudgery of full-time employment (all in the cause of keeping my family fed and in quartered). Hell I would shovel horse shit all day long as long as my family is happy.
That’s obviously me – EF cursedly changes the login on the main PC all the time.
*squints suspiciously*
something something eye workout
I think the time has come to admit that you are actually two spirit.
You mean like John/Suki?
Better than Vampire Bill/Suki
I’d rather share a toothbrush with OMWC than share a computer with him.
And I won’t share a toothbrush with *anyone*.
maybe you do and don’t know it
“Lucky *enough to meet EF when I was 17, who is smarter than I am”
*Suspicion grows*
Y’all need to have separate logins on the PC itself. And passwords so when it wakes from screensaver/sleep, you have to login with your own.
I prefer the occasional goofup, keeps me on my toes when reading. I will note it is always (from my remembrance) the EF account being misused by LH, not t’other way round. coincidence? I think not.
There is nothing wrong with being poor. There may be something wrong with liking it.
I was poor. I didn’t like it. I’m now middle class.
It wasn’t fun, I grew up like that.
A mentor of mine told me that success in life is the measure of one’s ability to overcome a series of obstacles over the timeline of one’s life.
nonsense. you have to drink wine to be proper middle class
No,no,no, that’s snooty, not middle class. Wine is an aristocratic affectation.
in that case beer it is… or the very least gin. Vodka neat from the freezer dont cut it
Jokes on you, it’s Krupnik.
You clearly have not met my family.
I kinda like Dave Ramsey’s take on that – “I’ve been broke, but I’ve never been poor.” Poor is a mindset, broke is a condition.
Very, very true.
I think the problem is with people who tolerate being poor as a condition of their fondness for sloth.
It’s a glorious day here in Balmer. Took a 4 mile walk at 11am. It’s getting hot, but cloudless blue skies and a nice breeze.
We just got the word that the office is closing two hours early, which means that I’m going to knock out some outside day-drinking with my boy instead of refactoring ReactJS code to remove old lifecycle hooks. This is a good start to the weekend.
I’m writing code right now. I’d say anyone who is actually in the office today, and there are very few (I’m WFH) will be gone by 4pm at the latest. I started at 8am, so my day ends at 4PM regardless, so 4PM is beer o’clock today.
Eh, I worked 4AM to 2:30PM.
I work 6:45-4:15 8 days out of 14, and 6:45-3:15 the ninth day. Comes out to 80 hours every two weeks and one of the weekends is a three day. Wish they had 4/10s.
Sunny, mid-60’s, cloudy today with light wind. After work, need to run some errands, and then I’m hoping to get in a 20 mile bike ride.
81 at moment here, but super low humidity today for here at 34%.
No it is not. You were murdered, 2 miles into your walk….admit it. Your ghost is now typing these responses!
I’m not in THAT Balmer, I’m here in my safe haven. I did pass a few scary (((them))) peoples, but besides that, I saw a tortoise and a fox.
I understand Leakin Park is very nice this time of day.
Yeah, I’m sure, if you want to replace either the tortoise or the fox with a dead human body.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that those who prep and work hard (this is a very lazy person saying this) are much more likely to find prosperity than those counting on luck.
One comedian I heard made the joke that he never played the Lottery because he figured the odds were the same whether he bought a ticket or not.
Pretty much. I’m afraid to buy a lottery ticket for fear I might win.
Not to worry, the guy who croaked in the Morrissette song was a hair under Fivescore.
The balancing karma that would come with a lottery win scares me enough to stay away from that game.
I’m surprised that I’ve managed to keep this car relatively uncluttered. On my list of tasks to get ready to drive, I had “Clean out car”, but when I went to do so, there were only a handful of things to remove, and one to put back in its place. Who am I and what have I done with myself?
I have to clean out and wash the Tuscon before the little lady gets back, she’ll have a fit otherwise. It’s not really that dirty, but a quick vacumn and clean the bird shit off the moon roof is a good idea.
The Whole City? poor bastard.
No, only the part my wife has laid claim to. I mean the one that I also pay for, but it’s hers, for some reason.
II haven’t washed my truck in years. It’s why I own a truck.
Spot on trashy.
A barista with an oppression studies degree isn’t a victim of bad luck. She’s suffering the consequences of her poor decision making.
way to assume xer gender shitlord. I will not continue to read something written by a Nazi
He didn’t say baristx.
Thanks, Tyson.
HERETIC!
*bows toward Tyrone*
All Hail the Great Tyrone!
*Tebows*
…
You can never be too sure, you know.
*curtsies*
You keep hailing Tyrone, Zardoz is not going to take it well.
Work. There’s an apocryphal story about Thomas Edison that has him saying, “People frequently don’t recognize opportunity when it knocks, because it usually shows up in overalls and looks like work.”
Whatever material success I’ve achieved in this life, has been 99.9% due to the work ethic my father hammered into me.
Child abuse… the government should of done something
Yeah, more kids should be abused like I was. Dad was without doubt the finest man I’ve ever known; the work ethic was just one part of his legacy.
My dad was the same, taught me how to work rather than what to do.
The Dutch CRC thing really pushes the strong (Protestant) work ethic. But it certainly hasn’t stuck with me as much as the old man who put in 60-70 hours of work a week, only getting Sunday off. I prefer to do 30-40 a week, work from a home whenever I can, and minimize my active work by making the systems I control better ‘n’ better. Different jobs – of course – but also a different mindset. But that’s why he became a high-level manager while I’m just a hack.
So what’s a Cyclic Redundancy Check have to do with pushing work ethics?
Nice think piece, Trashy. I don’t have much to add. You pretty much summed up the way I feel about luck and hard work.
I’m starting to feel sloth-shamed.
Would you rather be slut-shamed?
Wait, don’t answer that.
Paging Q.
Specifically, the economic left assumes that extraneous factors (luck) are the driving force behind prosperity (and paucity). The economic right assumes that hard work is the driving force behind prosperity, and the lack of hard work is the driving force behind paucity. – i would say as a snapshot in time maybe, but in the grad scheme of things humanity started with nothing and there was a lot of work involved tog et where we are
I wrote myself before of luck and it can be such a broad category as to become meaningless. But I will say this: whatever luck you have, hard work ain’t gonna make it worse, and it may make it better. I spent a bit of my childhood in off the beaten track rural Romania, and the same poor people in the village did better if they cleaned their house, took odd jobs, planted some vegetables in the garden attached to their house etc instead of drinking the cheapest shit in the village bar.
The poorest person in the US is still luckier than that majority of the people in the world.
I have both.
I also have two homes.
You can do anything you want with any educational background if you work hard.
I also have two homes. – and how you get those then? by oppressing the workers
Oppressing is hard work; pimpin’ ain’t easy!
Do you do wrist curls to maintain a strong pimp hand?
Yes. “Wrist curls“.
MAH HERO!
Bring on the revolution!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_gP4GFUnS8
+1
I had a good professor tell us that there is no such thing as a useless major only useless people.
Don’t let a good education stand in the way of success.
Yeah, but you got the D.
There are pathways to success in humanities and education, for sure. However, it’s exceedingly rare for the average meandering student to find those pathways.
That isn’t the case for all degrees. Some have viable careers for the middling students.
I’m not denying that supply and demand is a thing. What I’m saying is that if you go into say, fine arts, you can succeed if you work your ass off. In fact, it is expected. I have several friends who became professional musicians, dancers, and actors, enough so that they don’t need day jobs. They practiced until their fingers or feet bled, took any gig, and worked and worked until they got their break. Many of them had the math chops to be a “middling” STEM student, but they didn’t want to. Their passion for their interests fueled their work ethic.
However, they also went into these careers with eyes open, knowing what it would take to succeed. As an undergrad, when I switched majors from Geology to Humanities, I would joke about getting a job at the Humanities Factory. If you think such a place exists, then, yes, you’re an idiot. I was willing to get that degree, knowing that it was a stepping stone on a long journey in which I had to be willing to do shit like substitute teaching for a couple of years while I built up a greater portfolio of skills and opportunities. Personally, I regret nothing.
Yup. I was actually the opposite — I was a better-than-average musician, but didn’t have the discipline to ensure a comfortable lifestyle. So after three years into a BFA, I switched and got a BS.
If you think such a place exists, then, yes, you’re an idiot.
Or if you’ve not even thought through it that far.
You went to school with Bryan Adams!
Aye. A BA and MA in History (an a JD from a lowly school)…and I manage a whole team of fondue stirrers!
I think the common denominator for success with those majors is highly correlated to post-grad degrees. Most of my classmates didn’t bother to go back and get a MA or doctorate. They decided to move in with mommy and daddy and bitch about their student loans.
Well, that’s the point. Their entire purpose is to prepare you for grad school.
back in the day you did not need grad school.
Back in the day (100 years ago), you could become an engineer with a voc-tech high school education too.
i am an engineer and dint go to no grad school whatever that is
I was referring to the liberal arts specifically.
Credential inflation. God, but I hate it. HR just told me one of my people can’t be a manager unless she has a BA.
I asked “what do they teach undergrads about being a manager?” I got no response.
I’m not done with this yet.
Part of it is credentialism, yes. But I would argue that in some cases, the profession itself as developed as time went on to require a higher amount of specialization for entry.
This isn’t for any particular profession, this is just to be a manager at all. She is qualified and doing the work now. I’m at risk of losing a good employee because of a pointless requirement, that arises from our toxic obsession with credentials rather than ability.
I doubt many professions require more schooling. More on the job experience probably. Then again university in Romania is dismal maybe it’s better in US
Having worked in international education at the university level for almost 20 years now, I can tell you there is a huge difference between the culture of North American universities and the rest of the world. Elsewhere, compared to NA, baccalaureate education is laser focused on vocational training on whatever discipline the degree falls under. Whereas, in NA, there is a much greater emphasis on a broad-based liberal education, regardless of major and degree. NA students don’t see the focus that baccalaureate students in other countries see until they enter grad school. On the other hand, I have found that NA students have a much better handle on rhetoric and argumentation that students from elsewhere, as non-NA students have rarely been asked in their education to state what they think and to defend it.
my 5 years of Polytechnic were anything but laser focused… But at least there was 0 politics…
Based on my experience with the fine students of Beloit college which I met, allow me to doubt that “much better handle on rhetoric and argumentation “
Remember, most international students in the US are from Asia and the Middle East.
RC, this x1,000,000. I had recommended my replacement when I left my last job, a guy who was scientifically competent, had great organizational and management skills, and was excellent as someone who could get in front of customers and translate their problems into opportunities for solutions.
“Nope, you have to have a doctorate for this position.”
I’ve known hundreds of STEM PhDs and maybe three out of that who have the right business mindset. But that’s the company rule, PhD required for technical management.
Pretty much. When I meet with HS seniors who are thinking about History majors, we often talk about career prospects – other than being a social studies teacher. My first question to them is “do you want to get any job after you get your degree or do you want to get a History job?”
If it’s the former I talk about the various skill sets they will develop and what kind of companies might be looking for those skill sets. For example, there are insurance companies who hire History majors because graduates have the ability to distill large amounts of information into reports that can be understood by other people.
OTOH, if they want a History job then I tell them there is really no option other than grad school – although not necessarily a PhD in History.
My youngest grand daughter just graduated with a History-Ed major, I think she is going to be disappointed in her job search
Her sister also just graduated with a BA (or BS) in Hospital Management, worked her way through school and got a 60K job to start.
Classmates with education and humanities degrees are struggling to progress beyond beverage arts.
My undergrad was in History and Philosophy. To be fair, though, my beverage arts are still under development as I try to expand my cocktail repertoire.
(Seriously, though, those aren’t my “real” degrees, which is a JD. They were instrumental in getting me the JD , though).
there are humanities and humanities… i mean critical gender studies is sort of philosophy… but depends on the person what philosophy they learn and what they do with it
I have a BA. Fifty percent of the student body were teaching majors. Another forty percent were business majors. The College of Natural Sciences existed to produce science and math teachers, but it had been corrupted by students splitting their time between business classes and computer information systems. This is not exactly where most people go to school to become engineers, but that’s where I ended up.
I’m a BS-ED, triple major got a BS. Went to business
My brother in law got a philosophy B.A. and became a phlebotomist. When people asked him why he did that for a job, he explained, “US Philosophy Corporation wasn’t hiring the year I graduated.”
He worked hard, retired at 55 on a full pension.
Hero.
Making smart choices, taking personal responsibility for your actions, and being reliable will get you very far*.
*Does not apply to union jobs.
Also, there is no such thing as luck.
Luck is just variables you haven’t accounted for.
some ladies are lucky to be proper thicc
I disagree. There are things within your control and things without, which I would characterize as “luck”.
Part of life is coming to terms with those things outside your control and accepting them as they are, whether it be early-onset Alzheimer’s or winning the lottery.
“Some things are up to us and some are not up to us. Our opinions are up to us, and our impulses, desires, aversions – in short, whatever is our own doing. Our bodies are not up to us, nor are our possessions, our reputations, or our public offices. . .” – Epictetus
If you define “luck” as events out of our control, then yes. I was using the “luck is probability taken personally” definition, which seemed to me more in line with Trashy’s argument.
If there is no thing such as luck, then how does one differenate between someone diagnosed with something like multiple sclerosis and someone who is not ?
Isn’t the one without luckier than the one with ?
But you’re forgetting “privilege” and how it’s totes unfair that some kids are born into functional, stable families that teach them good habits and values. And yes, that is totally unfair because life is unfair.
Life is pain, highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
A quote I’m glad made it into the movie, even though the bits from the book that included it were dropped (and so it migrated characters as well).
I do know that people who count on luck alone to get rich are going to be waiting a long time. . .
Shit in one hand, wish in the other, see which gets full first. One of the more useful things my dad taught me.
A close family friend is sort of like that. She made good money when she owned her hair salon but lived high on the hog. Sent her children to private schools even though their grades where shitty, bought a Mercedes and BMW, and acquired a decent summer home. And none of that is bad in itself but she never saved a dime. So now that money is a little tighter and she’s 65 years old, she’s has fallen on hard times. I am almost obsessive about my retirement and having something in savings because of her.
So she did succeed after-all….as a cautionary example.
OT, but wanted to share the happiness:
https://glibertarians.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/glibslide.jpg
It took less than a week to get back to me, and the finish is better than it was new out of the box.
HAIL GLIBARCHS! YOUR SIGIL IS CARVED ON AN INSTRUMENT OF DEATH!
I note that it’s designed to be seen when holstered.
as a romanian i don’t know what that is
The slide from a sem-automatic pistol.
pistol?
One of the Totemic Anima Beasts of the Americas.
how utterly barbaric
Barbarians beat degenerate ‘civilized’ folk every day of the week.
Considering we can buy one of these for 953 Lei, I think you may be fibbing.
I certainly cannot
That is sweet!
Many thanks for providing the .dxf !
No problem. I’m glad someone got some use out of it. I haven’t gotten around to doing anything with it yet.
*Kow-tows toward Not Adahn*
Well that is gorgeous.
I know you posted it before, but you could repost who did the work? I wanna bookmark that action. That is sweet.
http://ncengravers.com/
Thank you, sir. Don’t know what I will get done, but I have a couple of handguns that could benefit from some dressing up.
MikeS provided the .dxf file I sent to ncengravers.com.
Very nice!
Classy, even!
ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN ENGRAVING ONE. TRULY, YOU ARE A CHOSEN ONE OF THE CHOSEN ONES.
THETHAT GUN IS GOOD! ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN.I have a friend that has taken up engraving. His work is beautiful. I can’t afford him. 😉
This was $60 for the engraving, $60 for the Cerakote, and $12 shipping.
My friend does traditional hand engraving. He has posted photos of the knives he has completed. I think he has done one pistol.
Yeah, I worked with a custom knifemaker before. Pricey. But we are living in a golden age of manufacturing.
This is not my friend, and he’s not quite this good yet. But he will be in the not too distant future.
https://www.southerncustomengraving.com/custom-work.html
While I can appreciate the skill involved, I’m of the opinion that the fillagree work ruins the look of a firearm.
Nice!
That is badass.
scourge of orphans everywhere!
that is suh-weet.
WUT!
That’s nice. I like it.
Other people are victims in my internal narrative.
Now, I wouldn’t say that makes me the hero . . . . I may be vain and arrogant, but I’m not stupid.
I had my fun, I wasn’t anhedonic,
Sounds like my college years. I was in the animal house frat as an undergrad, but I generally left the parties around midnight or so (and, sadly, generally by myself). Sunday wasn’t as much a hangover day for me as it was a prep day for the coming week.
Although “law school” and “fun” go together like Israelis and Palestinians, I had a similar pattern in law school. While my colleagues were faffing off in “study groups” or generally dicking around like students are wont to do, I was doing the reading and going to class. Every. Single. Page. And. Every. Single. Class. While they were panicking and cramming for finals, I was coasting, trying to make sure I didn’t get stale by over-studying. And, oddly, that made law school about a 40 hour a week job or so.
Downside was that my networking in college and law school was subpar, no question. I didn’t really think my college network was anything I would need, but I lack the law school network that might have been helpful (although since my career did not involve BigLaw, or government, probably not as helpful; maybe if I had targetted academia from the get-go, I could be a law professor now, but I suspect Woke Academia would make me miserable).
This is actually a really, really important point.
All of the really rich guys I know hooked up with at least some of their key partners in college. Except the billionaires. But all the other guys – college buddies started this business, or college buddies got back together after working for a while and decided to take over a company….
I really blew that. I never was one for the whole frat thing. And even the opportunities that I had slipped right past me. I knew Craig Venter in grad school… they asked me if I was interested in joining their lab, but I was comparatively weak in biochemistry, so I didn’t bite. Idiot. They all left to form Celera Genomics, and as far as I know they all ended up with more money than they can spend.
Spotting opportunity is so key.. and building a network of top-flight people as friends is a big opportunity that most people miss.
As much as I hate to say this, networking is a huge fucking deal. Most of my jobs in finance were the result of keeping in touch with former classmates.
I don’t think I’ve ever gotten a job by simply applying. Networks, especially early in your career, are critical.
My fawncy degree has undoubtedly gotten me a lot of interviews that would otherwise have been unavailable to me, absent an inside track of some kind. So it kinda has balanced out for me, but there’s a very short list of degrees that will do that for you.
And, back on theme, that’s where the luck comes in. I was accepted to law school (which had at least ten applicants for every spot) because that year they had decided to try to get more geographic diversity and I went to school in the south. My best friend’s wife worked in the admissions department, and it was eye-opening to see how they weighted and evaluated things.
Luck: getting admitted.
Skill/work: graduating with honors.
Luck brings you opportunities, nothing more. The rest is on you.
And the left pushes that narrative hard – except for them it is not merely more difficult, but literally impossible, for someone born in a housing project to ever get one of those jobs. And it’s not that (most) firms deliberately discriminate against people from humble beginnings, but that firms discriminate for people that are part of their network. But those networks are not exclusionary; there is a way into those networks if you conform to the values of those networks.
The reason why I refused to join the Black Student Union or any other race based group on campus was because they isolated themselves from other groups on campus. I think my response after going to one of their meetings were, “If I wanted to hang around people who only looked like me, I would have stayed on Southside.”
I got called a sell out and Oreo but when it was time to get jobs that required some connection, they knew no one while I could call up a friend and ask for a recommendation
“I got called a sell out and Oreo but when it was time to get jobs that required some connection, they knew no one while I could call up a friend and ask for a recommendation.”
^This. It’s like the culture of failure is self-reinforcing.
Also, have you considered doing an article for Glibs about your experiences?
Funny, being something of a contrarian, I had a wild hair up my butt to do the opposite. A bunch of articles were being written about “whites only” fraternities needing to attract more minorities (who were distinctly not applying, due to the Oreo/sellout label you reference as much as anything else). So my white ass cooked up a plan with my (black) roommate to join the black student union and Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity.
Not being D-1 athletes, we ended up thinking better of getting the crap beat out of us and instead just hit up a couple of their parties. The Alphas attracted A-list ladies to their parties, I’ll give them that.
That would have been over looked if you could step and stroll, as homeboy aptly demonstrates here.
For those who have never been to a step show, it is awesome.
When I was at UNC, Stewart Scott of Sports Center fame was the line leader for the Alphas. Dude could seriously dance.
Things have probably changed a lot since the early 80’s though. One of the absolute best was “The Monkey”. Somehow I think that even a bunch of frat boys are gonna be too PC to chant “Whacha gonna do?? We said we gonna monkey for you!!” as they preen for the ladies with ape-inspired moves.
But Scott absolutely killed that dance. Dude had his choice from the ladies of black and gold on step show night, no doubt. (You know it was good if it left an impression 35 years later)
Downside was that my networking in college and law school was subpar, no question.
Networking got drilled into me late in undergrad. I had a volunteer position in the internship and co-op office and watched people with mediocre grades get better offers than people with great grades.
That experience led me to become close with the career office at law school, and also to force myself to do networking events, including inn of Court. I was working 35-45 hours/week through law school, so that all came at the sacrifice of my grades. I definitely over-performed my GPA coming out of law school. Some of that was the EE degree, some of it was the networking.
I’m glad I got the options I did, because toiling at biglaw sounds pretty awful from my current position on my back patio after my manager told us all to take the afternoon off.
Tangentially related, I just had the first recruiter reach out to me to try to lure me back to biglaw. I had to stifle a laugh while responding. They’d have to pay me partner money to get me back. Thats how much I hate that
meatgrinderwoodchipper.There’s definitely some of both… but one thing I’ve seen that makes a really big difference is the ability to spot an opportunity and relentlessly pursue it.
I only know a couple of billionaires. And a few tens-of-millions millionaires.
The couple of billionaires have something in common – they are not as bright as the multimillionaires, at least not by my not-so-scientific gut reaction. And they all are extremely driven. They all work around the clock, every day, all year, every year.
But the billionaires can see an opportunity that other people didn’t see. Some niche where risks are low and rewards are huge. And they go all-out after that goal. They are both narcissists, near as I can tell. And both are easily taken advantage of in personal situations, so they insulate themselves from the people who work for them – because they might all get thrown overboard at any moment. They don’t want their judgement clouded.
One of the multi-millionaires has some of those traits, he’s a narcissist, he’s relentless.. but he doesn’t have the knack for knowing the difference between a good opportunity and a mediocre one. And he is to susceptible to his vanity, so he wastes a lot of capital on things that don’t help advance the cause.
Another couple of the multi-millionaire crew are probably going to crack the B club eventually. They are in the right business and can steadily accumulate wealth over time.
So, common theme? Hard work is essential. Unless you hit the lottery, you gotta work hard. Being smart is important. But it isn’t the be-all-end-all. In fact, being too smart means you can talk yourself out of an opportunity. Being sure of yourself (while being correct) is the real key. So smart enough, but no so smart that you overanalyze everything. Better to have a general idea of the right direction and just start moving, instead of waiting for the perfect plan.
they insulate themselves from the people who work for them – because they might all get thrown overboard at any moment
More than once I have told people I work with that I can’t really be friends with anyone I might have to fire.
I have always done it exactly the opposite. I’ve wanted everyone at work to be friends, particularly the leadership group. Which made me susceptible to being taken advantage of by folks who didn’t see it that way and didn’t mind taking advantage.
Still, in the grand scheme of things I enjoyed working with a family group instead of a bunch of strangers. And my team was fiercely loyal, because they knew I had their back 100%. Although that attitude does make you a bit paranoid about making new hires. I was pretty famous for long interviews and long delayed hiring decisions. If you only make the right hire, you don’t have to do a lot of firing.
When my staff was under 20 it was pretty easy. I only had to let one guy go, and only one or two ever left. But as it grew past 50, well, by then I had executives working for me who did the hiring and firing of the bulk of the group, so it wasn’t so difficult. Plus, if you are honest with people, they’ll usually end up firing themselves.
Don’t get me wrong. My team is tight and high-performing, with pretty minimal drama (considering they are all women, except one). I am friendly and routinely go to bat for them, keep them up to speed on what’s going on and how they are doing.
But friends? No. Kinda like how parents shouldn’t be friends with their young kids. Its not a peer relationship, and I’m not going to try to make it one.
That’s a really good management tip
ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS CHOSEN FIRING ONE. ZARDOZ CAN HELP WITH THAT…
ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN.
Nice article, trashy.
I have had ups and downs, for sure, but the one thing I’ve learned is to not focus too much on the end result. Things rarely turn out like you plan and you may miss opportunities because they don’t “fit” or you are too focused on what you thought was the goal.
Work hard, keep your eyes open and be prepared when Lady Luck gives you that smoldering look from across the room.
Same here. I had a stretch after my first firm fired me where I was living in the Y and selling plasma (to two different outfits to double up the schedule) to buy ramen noodles.
A few years later, I was in-house counsel to a statewide trade association.
Damn.
As Jocko says: DISCIPLINE EQUALS FREEDOM. Also as he says: if you want to do more pullups, DO MORE PULLUPS.
Jocko needs to get more sleep
his kids books kick ass. all about hard work and making yourself harder to kill.
And because of the large degree of economic illiteracy most people think that anyone wit a net worth of one million is rich. As-in filthy, stinking, mansion-and-yacht rich. They don’t realize that grandpa and grandpa are probably millionaires. There is no incentive for mere millionaires to mention that to anyone – it’s a good way to get robbed, shaken down, or have your shit confiscated.
What about grandma and grandma?
I’m sure a lesbian couple of two retired public school administrators made bank.
Blew it all on their Legacy.
[golf clap]
They don’t cost that much.
Actually, I know that couple.
I helped them move back when I was in school. Got paid $20 for the day’s work carrying boxes. They were about 60-ish.
They had just retired due to a fortuitous find. They had invested in a business started by a family friend who lived down the street some 30 years earlier. They never expected to see anything out of it. Then, years later they were going through some boxes and found the stock certificate. So they had their lawyer find out what happened to it… not expecting much.
Turns out, that little business ended up being a pretty big regional grocery chain that was bought out by an even bigger chain. Their forgotten investment was worth millions.
So they retired, bought a nice new house and called up a friend to come help them move. And he called me and a couple of other kids. So I got 20 bucks out of the deal. And a scar on my knee where a metal filing cabinet took a bite out of it.
What’s even worse, the People’s Republic of Muland managed to pass a tax hike on us ultra wealthy making over 100K per year, on a holiday weekend in the middle of the night. I kid you not. Annapolis is filled with scum who in a just world would be hung from lamp posts and left for the vultures and maggots.
Can confirm.
Why do you hate the vultures and maggots?
“Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.”
Springfield, Illinois may have Annapolis beaten soon. They are pushing hard to have a progressive state income tax.
Punish hard work and success, reward sloth and envy. /lefttards
And because of the large degree of economic illiteracy most people think that anyone wit a net worth of one million is rich.
There was a time when you had to have an income of a million a year to be a millionaire. And that’s back when a million bucks was a whole lot more money than it is now.
Yeah, these days “wealthy” is what…. $5+ million? $10+? Somewhere in there. It has to be where you can live a comfortable life without ever touching principle, by my definition.
But that doesn’t approach what counts as “wealthy” when you get to places like Palm Beach or Star Island. People living on Millionaire Mile in Hillsboro will have a million dollars in annual boat maintenance. $100 million is kind of entry level with those folks. One guy I know has a full time crew of 4 for his boat. And it isn’t the biggest boat on his block. That’s 4 full time employees, just to own the boat. Then you have to buy fuel, pay for maintenance, insurance, pay port fees when travelling…. and that’s just one toy. A plane is another 7 figure annual cost… Those “really wealthy” people blow through a lot of cash, just staying up with their nut.
My wife is visiting her brother in San Diego. She sent me a Redfin listing for a 980 sqft. shithole. It’s going to $990k. Practically a million bucks for a house you could get here for about $250k, or in places with sane real estate markets very likely in the $125k neighborhood.
Sheet, I only paid $80k for my thousand square foot box.
And it’s not even a shithole.
To most people “wealthy” is those who have more then them.
Outstanding point.
The sticking point is the definition of prosperity. Most likely, there will always exist someone with more than you. Ignore them.
This is huge. Chasing others’ success is a fool’s game.
We shall not rest until all of you are as impoverished and full of misery and self pity as we are! /SJWs
If we were just as woke as the French
Look, every other civilized country has
health care daily terrorist attacks. Why can’t the USA have that too?Well, fucked that up and I haven’t even started drinking yet…
How can it be that a country that takes in far fewer immigrants than the United States and that prides itself on its national identity far more than Americans can experience regular terrorist attacks and immigrant riots, while both are extremely rare occurrences in the US?
It’s almost as if the French are terrible at assimilating its immigrants or something
“French” is an enthic identity in addition to a cultural and national one. “American” is merely a cultural and national identity. One is more accommodating of additions.
Our secret is that the USA are the most bigoted racists on earth, or something like that.
We’re terrible people. So terrible that no American even suspects someone of not being American if they speak English and blow fireworks on the 4th of July. Whereas the French don’t even consider other ethnic Frenchman of being French, because they were born in Algeria or some other former colony.
Europe is cancer
What do you call a German whose great-grandfather emigrated from Istanbul? A Turk.
What do you call a Turk who just took an oath of citizenship to the United States 10 minutes ago? An American.
The explanation for why America outperforms Europe in every way in a single anecdote
Where did Steve Bannon touch you, JS?
I just don’t like the soft tyranny of Europe. There’s nothing worth preserving there other than pretty buildings. The US already took everything of value that that continent produced.
Canada sucks too.
Scotch, whiskey, lambic, flanders red, bordeaux, ribera del duero, brunello di montelcino, barolo.
There are parts of Europe and European culture that need to be salvaged.
One of these days, coming soon, I’m going to really have it out with my DIL over this bullshit. She’s a wonderful person, but she has been completely brainwashed with the ‘Europe is better than the USA’ non-sense. I keep trying to get my wife to talk to her, but it’s just not working. Yeah, Germany is better than the USA, because FREE healthcare. Yeah, free, right, for only 60% of your income. Not to mention that as a skilled IT worker, you’d no longer be working for a wage that any IT worth hiring here would laugh at.
I just get so pissed at this bullshit.
Germany is the worst. “Hate” speech laws; no gun rights, and jailing people for not sending their kids to public schools.
Somehow people believe that if the government give you enough shit (after stealing it from you) and allows you to elect your tyrant that somehow they are a super place to live.
The best things that the US stole from Europe are found in the Bill of Rights which is based upon European philosophers that are largely ignored on their continent of birth today.
The best things that the US stole from Europe are found in the Bill of Rights which is based upon European philosophers that are largely ignored on their continent of birth today.
In fairness, they were largely ignored on their continent of birth back then, too. The US lucked out in getting a bunch of dissenters who latched onto a few good ideas.
Really? I’ve been ensured by people who have never been to Europe before, that everyone there is happy 100% of the time and way better off than Americans, who live in a dog eat dog hell where you are 100% likely to be mowed down by rednecks if you dare ever venture outside, who drive around in mega-SUVs with machine guns mounted on top, which is perfectly legal here.
That America sounds Awesome!
Look at the main difference between the immigrants.
One is predominately Christian and one is predominately Islamic.
Not PC but is truth.
The biggest problem here is that good luck and hard work present a false dichotomy it is not an either or proposition. In fact there are 4 basic elements…
Luck (the winds of fate)
Drive (aka hard work)
Responsibility (making good choices and living within your means)
Talent (abilities you were born with or developed as a result of your upbringing)
An abundance of any one of them is capable of propelling one to prosperity but I wouldn’t count on it. Any Two is at a minimum enough to guarantee you a comfortable life and actual prosperity is above the single digit percentages of happening. Possessing 3 of them in greater than average amounts pretty much guarantees you will reach the top levels of whatever fields you choose to pursue, a comfortable life at a minimum is guaranteed for you and wealth is well within your grasp. Finally if you have all 4 then wealth is essentially guaranteed to follow.
https://despair.com/products/incompetence
Well said. I was thinking something along the same lines, but you articulated it perfectly.
Nice article trsh. The adversity and bad luck canards are wearing thin. When I think of life-changing bad luck, I think of events like pediatric cancer.
I was thinking of haveing the roof of your car caved in by blue ice from an airplane while you were driving. You had to take it to a dark place.
It’s also how you respond to bad luck. Example: on the morning Jack Ruby shot Lee Harvey Oswald, another photographer got a pretty good ‘photo but not the one that won the Noble Prize. According to family that guy never got over that for the rest of his life:
“While the career of the widely feted Jackson soared, Beers never stopped blaming himself for missing the shot of a lifetime; sick with depression and heart disease, he died at 51.
From that moment on, Mr. Beers “never had as much confidence in himself,” says his daughter, who describes him as “feeling let down. Not by anybody in particular. More by fate, I guess. He always felt like, ‘Why have I had to struggle so hard to finally get the picture and then not get it?’ ”
More here: http://www.generalsemantics.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/dmn-six-tenths.pdf
what the heck? he died from depression b/c he didn’t get the Pulizter for his snuff photo?
Hard work is turning a bankruptcy into a multi-million dollar branding operation that leads to your own show. Luck is running for president against the least liked public figure in American history.
With some hard work and a bit of luck, this prok shoulder on the smoker will come out just as intended.
I dont believe in luck. My ex-wife always complained that “everything always works out for you!” Not true but I dont dwell on negative outcomes and I always seek opportunities.
Aomewhere here above said it best, luck is just situations we havent accounted for and have gone our way.
Great article trsh. I fall more to the side of hard work on the equation, but I was raised by a father who was taken from an Irish orphanage at age 5 to work on a farm. He left the farm at age 16 with no formal education beyond age 12 he managed to work his way around the country there for three years to get enough to buy a ticket to California. He arrived with fifty bucks and the address of a great aunt. Through massive hard work he built a small empire of businesses and has plans to retire the day they take him “down to Colma” in the back of the black car.
He told me to get a job at age 10 and aside from a few months periods at a few times when I’d saved enough to travel in Latin America I have had one since. It’s been almost 12 years owning my own small biz and my success is entirely dependent on how much I choose to work. I’m never going to have the type of success he did, but I have kids now so I don’t choose to work 40-45 hours a week so I can see them.
plans to retire the day they take him “down to Colma” in the back of the black car.
My father is 83 and is still running the business he started 35 years ago. I expect to keep working until I become senile. I’ll teach one of kids how to use one of my 1911s before I get to that point.
My dad lives to work, he has no hobbies other than his businesses. I, on the other hand have too many hobbies. I could easily semi-retire if I had the cash and happily ski, fish, hunt, bike, camp and travel 100 days a year.
I’m with you on the 1911 exit plan though if I can’t function on my own.
My father works about 32 hours a week in the winter and about 25 hours during golf season (which from the day the course opens till the day it closes). He plays 270 to 300 rounds a year.
I am trying to figure out how to replicate that as an engineer.
Good on him. You get one go around (unless you’re Hindu or Buddhist). May as well enjoy it!
My dad is 89, fully retired now. But my sister tells me he has a harem at the senior living community and I completely believe her.
There are some advantages to getting old!
That’s how I hear it goes in those places. My grandfather is in his 90s, somewhat senile, and can barely walk due to several strokes. Despite all that, he still managed to get himself kicked out of his nursing home for sleeping around with too many of resident ladies.
That would be a nice way to spend your last years. I hope I get that and then die peacefully in my sleep, not screaming in terror like the passengers in my car.
That’s a good one.
You would think they would keep him around to amuse the ladies.
Oh, not it was quite a scandal. One of the centenarians was quoted as blaming it upon “The loose morals of kids these days”
Morals weren’t the only thing that was loose.
Ewwwwwww.
I’m guessing their husbands complained.
That’s lame. They should be thanking him while they hit the strip joints.
That should be, “so I choose to work…”
C. Oppressor
There’s a lot of those yellow Monarch butterflies flying around near my deck out back. I thought those were extinct because they couldn’t make the journey, because global warming… or cell towers, or something..
There are millions of butterflies instead of hundreds of millions of butterflies with the trend line going to the wrong direction.
The issue is real. But that doesn’t make the paranoid delusions of SJWs real.
Describe the issue. Who/what is it an issue for? So, if I see a hundred butterflies outside right now, instead of thousands, what is the issue? And what is the cause?
They are major pollinators. The worry is that if their population (and the rest of the pollinators likes bees) get too low, we are fucked.* I think habitat loss is a big reason.* Which is why (contrary to CPRM’s opinion) it’s a good idea to plant flowering plants to help them out.
*I’m not a scientist
I just said not to bother planting plants you can’t eat. Lots of food plants flower.
Right. But pollinators couldn’t survive on just human food plants flowering. They need things like wildflowers that bloom early and late to keep their life cycle going.
Right, but wildflowers, it’s right there in the damn name WILD, you don’t have to plant them, just don’t mow them down.
I am a scientist.
Another scientist
For those that don’t like the song, mute it and watch. The video is pretty cool.
Not every food plant is insect pollinated, many are wind pollinated. So how fucked we’d be…I’m not sure.
I don’t know how real the doomsday scenario is, but the possibility is there.
Flowers tend to specialize for the types of pollinators they attract. Flowers that depend on butterflies are shaped differently that flowers that depend on bees. Food crops tend to depend on bees. Some crops, like almonds, must have bees or they won’t produce. This is why orchards will pay beekeepers to bring hives to the orchards. Citrus, on the other hand, doesn’t need bees but will benefit from bees.
Humans plant “butterfly” flowers, because 1) the flowers are pretty and 2) the butterflies are pretty. Species like monarchs are fucked because the are exclusive to milkweed, and no one plants milkweed for decoration.
Figs are especially specialized, where each species of fig has its own specific species of fig wasp.
Yes, monarchs need milkweed for their larva to feed on, but they pollinate many different plants while they are butterflies and subsisting on nectar. Same goes for many other butterflies.
Yes, bees are the heavy hitter when it comes to human food pollinating. And the honeybee carries most of the load. But there are hundreds of native species out there, too. I doubt they could take care care of our modern commercial ag. Not with out a ton of habitat creating anyway. Which some people do set up small-scale.
And it’s not all flying insects either. Some plants rely on ants.
It’s an interesting issue, and one to watch.
Commercial agriculture is a special case. You get thousands of acres where 90% of the flowers occur at the same time for just a few weeks. And you need millions and millions of bees out there at the same time. So you head out with a semi-truck and put out hundreds of hives. Two weeks later, you gather them up and move on.
Native bees can’t do that. There is nothing for them to live on for the vast majority of the growing season.
My apple trees are just getting mature enough to bloom. Guess what, apple trees bloom earlier than pretty much anything local but dandelions. So I have stopped trying to kill the dandelions. I need them to bring the bees before the trees bloom.
-UnCiv. I had forgotten about the figs and wasps. That’s for bringing that up.
Is that the case for all commercial ag? I live smack in the middle of commercial ag. And I can’t even think how far away the closest beehives are. Around me they grow potatoes (red and white); field corn; soy, pinto, and navy beans (and others I believe); and sugar beets. Are all of those crops wind and/or self pollinating? I know corn is.
Food crops tend to depend on bees.
Sloppy on my part. Crops that need pollinators tend to depend on bees, not butterflies.
Some crops, like almonds, must have bees or they won’t produce.
Some crops are totally dependent on pollinators.
Many, perhaps most, are not.
In the hybrid rice business, we use helicopters as pollinators. It’s kinda fun to watch.
I would LOVE to see helicopter based pollination; that sounds like a lot of fun.
We plant milkweed in our yard (also parsley, and dill). We are going into our 2nd season raising Monarchs and Swallowtails.
I said issue, not problem.
Changing weather patterns and land usage have resulted in dramatic reductions in the population of some species of insects. Butterflies happen to be attractive and visible species. Whether or not population declines in butterflies is a problem — I don’t know. Population declines in pollinators is a definite risk as there are many commercial food crops completely dependent on pollinators.
Butterflies are a potential indicator of a looming problem. Much like canaries in coal mines.
“Butterflies happen to be attractive and visible species.”
I believe the term of art is “charismatic.” Hyaena not so much.
Right now I’m experiencing a dearth of bees, hope to get this corrected tomorrow. Its been so cold and wet there isn’t much in blossom (Take that, Global Climate Warming Change) but there will be at some point. I think Chauncey Gardener said something about that.
Absolutely. It’s amazing to talk to some poor people and discover which things they ascribe to “bad luck.” Things like winding up in jail. There was a long of train of bad decisions that led you to this point, pal. Luck had nothing to do with it.
IDINDUNUTHIN!
You can’t ignore the pernicious cult of victimhood, the culture of disdain for education, the rejection of personal responsibility, etc.
“Luck Is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity” – Seneca.
I know people who bitch about getting behind but do nothing to try and put themselves ahead. Where I work it is well known that SQL skills are highly valued. People don’t even try to learn it, even though it’s not that Goddamned hard but then wonder why they can’t get ahead and blame everyone else. Oh learning a new skill might take away from my time playing video games. Oh ok then, put Call of Duty Operator on your f’ng resume then jackass.
First it was “Bomb Cyclone” for cold fronts now “Death Ridge” for warm fronts….
Fuck weather reporters
How do you get the clicks? I mean we have to name rain showers now.
“Fuck weather reporters.”
Yes, please.
Somebody’s part of the Jim Cantoreneers
Richmond TImes-Dispatch has a weatherbear. He’s hot.
Huh….I did not know that the RTD has a weatherman. John Bernier will still outlive him, though, that guy’s been on channel 8 since I was a kid.
They normally are the ones that fall into that category.
OK, I’ll take Yanette Garcia.
What about a degree in a technical field of the arts but with crippling anti-social tendencies, so as to just say “meh I’d rather not bother.”?
I am officially on vacation…
So much to do before I can be ready.
Congrats!
By the way, our group has now grown by one. The famous Enough about Palin is planning to join us!
Soon, we might even have enough to ask the wait staff to push two tables together.
Nah. Jimbo usually has his own table. Perks of the job.
Well, that and no one wants to be seen sitting by him.
I’d sit by Jimbo, he’s my friend. Not in any special way but still. Enjoy the party, would like to have made it.
You gotta do that any way to fit all the
casserolehotdish pans on the table.Sorta OT: For the IT glibs out there. What are the pros/cons of being a 1099 employee? I get the feeling that it is a practice meant to make it easier for the company to shitcan you with little to no cause. Any insight would be useful.
Two big cons are (generally) no benefits and paying both sides of taxes.
Another is the “1099 employee”. You’re not an employee, you’re an independent contractor which means (roughly, ianal) they can’t fully direct/micromanage you in how you go about accomplishing the work without rerunning afoul of misclassifying you with potential payout to you or the state. Some companies conveniently forget that part and try to treat you as just another employee.
reThey will be legally obligated to not invite you to employee events, so that you can not sue to be reclassified as an employee and cost them a lot of money.
I’ll put that in the “plus” category.
I just ordered a bottle of Highland Park 12 Year Old. Anyone had, is that good. The reviews look good.
Never had it but I’m guessing after the first 4oz it’s going to be awesome:)
I’m sure, lol.
I like it. Reminds me a little of Macallan in that it is pretty accessible. Sweeter, not too peaty.
I should find out in about a minute, delivery person is here… and it’s almost beer 0’clock…. damnit, I’ll find out in about 30 minutes…
LOL, the poor lady delivering my stuff was acting all out of breath and frustrated. It must be hell to drive 5 miles and walk up 3 flights of stairs for an $18 tip. Poor baby.
3 flights? That’s like, three more than she signed on for.
You have booze delivery? Privileged Shitlord, you are.
Yep, here in Balmer, we have Drizzly. I love it. Only for us filthy rich one percenters making more than 100K a year though, you know. Even though 100K here barely lets you into the middle class and allows you to buy an entry level home.
The box and the bottle are beautiful. I like that, will look good on my shelf, at least.
Lame. I would have gone with Drunk Nancy or Nancy Drew without a Clue or Nancy Pee her Pansie. I mean we already have Crazy Eyes.
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/05/24/official-donald-trump-gave-nancy-pelosi-nickname/
Fun fact- Dayton, Oh is having a Klan ‘rally’ tomorrow downtown, and the collective pants-shitting has begun.
I told Jugsy Id like to attend in black-face, wearing a nazi uniform, and waving an LGBT flag around, just to troll the local media.
Her short answer was, “No”.
Please film that and post here.
Alternatively, I was gonna make a t-shirt that said Pro-Choice Queers for Jesus
Oh, youre a unitarian?
That in itself is awesome. Can I buy one here?
Oh I should go. Just started new job though. Some folks may not get my dry sarcasm and satire.
Will there be tiki torches?
Rainbow-face with Jordan Peterson t-shirt
Honkler, is that you?
I’m sure it will have at least a few participants who aren’t FBI informers.
I did see that Alyssa Milano (of course) is shitting her pants over this. “I don’t recognize my country anymore”. Bitch, you’re 47 years old – you know that Klan rallies are not a new thing. They always play out the same way – a handful of inbred dolts in sheets with a whole lot more people screaming at them. BFD.
“Her” country
I always picture this.
“You said rape twice”
“Well….I like rape”
“Stampeding cattle? Not much of a qualification.”
“Through the vatican”
“Kinky”
Everything about that movie is awesome. “Aw, piss on you, I’m workin’ for MEL BROOKS!”
Holy shit! 10 to 20???? PANIC!
Jugsy and I had this discussion. I grew up in a rural area almost to Indiana, and she’s from outside of Cincy, also rural. While we both know plenty of bigots and prejudiced people, neither of us know anyone in the Klan, or even associated with them. So we both asked the same question- ‘where are they getting these people?’
Chillicothe?
It’s one or two here and there spread out over a wide area. Whoever shows up to that thing is probably being pulled from all over the state.
Growing up in Cleveland, I knew of one person who claimed to be a member of the Klan (first girlfriend’s dad). I knew a lot more SHARPs.
Dress up like Jesse Custer?
/can’t hear anything about the Klan without thinking of this panel.
Damnit, if I let that dryer load run through one more time without folding it and putting it away, I’m gonna be super pissed off. Why the hell do people paying you for work, expect you to actually do work when there is laundry to do? It’s unfair and I just recently learned that I’m 1/64th Cherokee and so a member of the victimhood class of the perpetually aggrieved and oppressed. I’m now AKA known as ‘Dancing on Sidewalks’. It’s a long story, trust me.
My dryer just decided to start chirping like an angry bird. New one coming Thursday. There goes the first month of my new raise. I got a decent life out of it though so can’t really complain.
Well, at least it’s probably not a Samsung, or it would have exploded and killed everyone in a 5 mile radius, I suppose. At least that is what i learned on the interboobz.
Samsung has greatly improved their safety record.
It’s now only a five block radius.
I don’t care what some of there other shitlords say about you, UnCivil, you are awesome.
I can tell you never ever buy an LG appliance. $1000 Fridge was hosed within 5 years. Washer goes unbalanced with 10 items in it. I will never buy an LG appliance again.
“never ever buy an LG appliance”
Umm, that’s not something that every intelligent being on the planet does not already know? The chance of me buying anything LG is between zero and never.
Well I didn’t know at the time! Thanks for sharing!
Our LG washer keeps stopping every five minutes because the “unbalanced” sensor isn’t working right. It’s still under warranty but it’s taking forever to get a damned repairman to come. Pissing me the hell off.
Oh you too.
Yup. For a while only doing full loads (and I do mean FULL) kept it from happening, but now it’s happening then too.
Two tips. Try Spin on Low setting and also try a different wash setting like bright colors or whites. Definitely don’t put more than one pair of jeans in a load of clothes. Small load for towels too.
In today’s episode of “who do I root against”
https://www.crossfit.com/battles/crossfit-suspends-facebook-instagram
Today I give CF a pass. That is an excellent and well articulated decision.
I don’t know any crossfitters, so I’ll side with them until they start talking about crossfit.
I think you root for CrossFit in this case.
That is great, go CrossFit!
*does a kipping pull-up, has shoulders explode*
So much this.
The key to prosperity is having a short commute. Well maybe not, but I’ll never go back to commuting more than 15 minutes to and from work.
You would have to forget that shit here. I used to be able to do a 15 minute door to door from here to my main client (9 miles). Not any more. They decided to install bike lanes down both sides of a street I have to get there on, which no one ever uses, and it added a solid 15-30 minutes to my commute, no matter what day it is. Leave it up to Baltimore to fuck shit up that is already fucked up and doesn’t need fucking up any more.
I used to live in Westminster and commute downtown. Then lived in Towson and drove in. Neither was worth it.
It’s much worse now. I’m close to Towson, BTW.
*Nelson laugh*
https://pagesix.com/2019/05/23/turmoil-at-tonight-show-after-jimmy-fallons-stunning-ratings-loss/amp/
What, he didn’t say we should impeach Trump enough? He has to try harder.
Yeah, be exactly like every other late nite show. That’s the ticket!
Lorne Michaels is a spent force and this was made clear under the Obama years. He clearly returned the favour for getting that Freedom medal.
Fallon is good for sketch comedy. Not a talk show host. He has no charisma.
Go woke, go broke. I still don’t get how Colbert has fans. He’s utterly unfunny as are Kimmel and Meyers. They’re didactic shtick is insulting and tiresome.
Fuck them. The end.
I was supposed to work Sunday because I was off today, but the project my crew was working got finished early. My boss gave me Sunday off with pay! No more Sundays for awhile. Yay!
*does happy dance to the basement*
Cheers! And have a merry happy good long weekend!
You know what would have been great? If Amash did a Tweet thread now calling for Trump’s impeachment for his DOJ prosecution of Assange under the Espionage Act (a remnant of the fascist Wilson regime).
But, it’s probably best to just legitimize a bullshit investigation that has been used to smear every antiwar voice from Rand Paul to Tulsi Gabbard.
Ironically, #Resist has been cool with prosecuting Assange because muh…Russia. Good on Amash for calling for this nonsense investigation in the first place.
Whichever of you lot posted Do Not Comply this morning, thanks. Its a catchy little tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWlTQP6bxI
Glad you like it. I’m looking forward to seeing them next weekend.
Everyone has predictably seemed to disappear from the office.. BEER!
Oh, this Heineken is soooo good after a grueling day of coding, wonderful elixir of the gods…
Millennials have a richly deserved reputation as whinging cunts, and their pet ideology is both abhorrent and only bound to make the problems worse, but whatever you want to call it, luck, fortune, fate, the curse of their own making, whatever, the economic climate is for shit, has been since they were born, and is never going to get better. Cheap commodity electronics are great and everything, don’t get me wrong. But pretty much every other aspect of the modern economic climate is a flaming pile of shit.
Tuition and housing have outpaced inflation by 300-400%, so you graduate chained to a loan repayment and shelling out 800-1000 bucks a month for a 2 or 3 bedroom apartment (yes, with roommates). Automobiles meanwhile have outpaced inflation by 100-200%. Luckily public transit is cheap, totally fucking awesome, and universally available because America is basically just a large series of interconnected New York Cities. Speaking of inflation, we’ve nicely massaged the metrics so that if you exclude every category of consumer goods seeing double digit cost increases and squint real hard it’s a meager 2% per annum, and still the dollar has lost more value in real terms since 2001 than it did in the entire preceding century. Meanwhile real wages stagnated 40 years ago (I know, I know, muh healthcare!), and nearly 3/4 of the job creation since 2001 has been in no-mobility low-wage jobs for which a high school education is superfluous. 60% of those with undergrad degrees are working in jobs where no degree is necessary. Well and good, we’re libertarians, not only do we not give a fuck about anything, but we’re all ass kicking ubermenschen who will strike out on our own anyway. Take those jobs and shove ’em! All you need is big balls and a strong back, just like your grandpappy had when he jumped off the boat 80 years ago. So presuming your job area is among the 2/3 that require professional licensing, after you take out another loan to go back to school for a couple years and obtain all the necessary credentials you can go shovel shit for a year or two to raise enough money to cover compliance costs and launch your enterprise. 80% of people just like you will fail. Might as well just throw that debt on the pile, you can’t discharge the medical bills and student loans in bankruptcy anyway.
But sure, The American Dream ™ is alive and well. We’ll go with that storyline.
Mind you, this is a veritable economic bonanza compared to what’s going to happen after the 2021 recession hits and the Fed goes negative. Even the credentialed class is going to be fucked to all eternity after a couple of “lost decades” imported from Japan.
I don’t disagree. However there are a few caveats.
1) as mentioned in the article, it’s a tall task for an 18 year old to make smart decisions regarding their future, but theyre responsible for those decisions nonetheless. I graduated law school with $180k in debt… an insane amount of money. I wasn’t a stupid 18 year old, I was a stupid 25 year old. Even now with more than 50% of our income going to digging out of that mistake, it’ll be 5 years after graduation that we get to break even, not even including opportunity cost. The system drops these kids into the deep end with nary a swimming lesson. However, agency still resides with the kid. I may resent the cost of law school and the debt I have to pay back. I may never give them another penny, but it’s my signature on those documents. Nothing is going to change until kids stop signing loan papers, whether that be due to skipping college, going to community College, going for a pay as you go plan, or whatever comes along to break this debt addiction.
2) student loans arent the issue. The issue is unemployability. The average amount of student debt is less than $30k. If these kids were getting placed into $45k jobs, it would be a significant debt to pay off, but by no means a boat anchor around their necks. The problem is that they’re graduating into $20k a year jobs, which isn’t much better of an outcome than if they had stuck with a GED.
3) Rising costs are a cause of adversity but they’re by no means inescapable. I spend some time on Dave Ramsey’s reddit page and it’s amazing to see what people pay for while they’re drowning in debt. A recent person comes to mind who was making $115k and couldn’t pay their bills. Turns out they were spending $1000/month on food, toiletries and diapers for their family of 3. Half of that was eating out at sit down restaurants. It amazes me how frequently people come in unable to pay their bills but restaurant budgets, vacation money, and gym fees are off limits. Meanwhile there are families of 5 out there making it work on less than $45k a year.
4) There’s a broader lack of interest in making the big changes required to get out of the “bad luck” situation. I may be making $15/hr in San Jose at Starbucks, but God forbid I move to Tulsa or St Louis where I can get the same job and actually afford rent.
Sure, there are systemic issues, but I haven’t met a single person who has been making good decision after good decision, only to have the system crush them under its weight. The current macro issues cause an amplification of decisions, both good and bad.