October bountiful harvest edition: in which we were not surprised but many were
The reaping was grim, but that’s what toldjasos™ are all about! The hype that was:
Week Seven Most OverRated Football Program Results
1 Wake Forest entered our list last week as All-Time Most OverRated Team of All-Time, fell to first-ever-university-owned-by-a-city Louisville, and then disappeared from the rankings
2 Minnesota shucked the team from Nebraska’s habeas-schmabeas campus
3 Memphis jumped into the rankings for some reason last week and promptly lost to “state-regulated” and possibly 80th best team in the nation Temple, so look for them in the footnotes of teams-receiving-votes now
4 Boise State allowed 37 by Hawai’I but won handily
5 Georgia passed quietly at home yesterday, surrounded by their loving family and close friends, from complications of the second-best team from South Carolina in 2OT . . . and fell seven places in the AP to 10.
6 Texas lost to Oklahoma in the annual tussle on the Trinity, but they are probably the best two-loss team in the country for whatever that is worth (which is, apparently, 15th in the AP, falling four spots, about right)
7 Oregon destroyed Colorado on Friday
8 Oklahoma steadily outpaced Texas in the annual Duel at Dallas
So what’s the bag limit for hype, anyway?!? This week we collect Wake Forest, Memphis, Georgia, and Texas (for the second time this season: that’s how stuck on Texas some people are). The next time anyone extols the value of democracy, just remember that these teams were voted to their lofty rankings; they weren’t Citizens United into office, and no smoky backrooms were involved: clear majorities agreed that UGA was top three, that Memphis and Wake belonged in the top 25 at all. No facebook, no Russians: just home-grown American idiocy delivered this quality. To borrow from Steve Spurrier (motto: don’t tell anyone I’m from Tennessee), you can’t spell crap without AP.
That said, Oklahoma gets better every week, and the grind past Texas (motto: LSU was a good loss!) qualifies them to enjoy a well-earned last laugh. Quarterback Hurts, an SEC refugee and Houston native, joins the very long list of Texas ex-pats who have carried the Crimson and Cream banner to victory over the Horns in the past century. I didn’t think that the Sooners were this close; I thought the grand narrative of one of the greatest programs of all time (not arguing with that whatsoever) was getting in the way of a clear view of this year’s team. And who doesn’t crave a chance to make fun of, as Randy Galloway called them, Zero U? But they were, they are the real deal in 2019 and so we must admit that the Sooners were not over-ranked after all. I was dead wrong on this one (cue sad trombone).
Good news: The Committee (motto: We Miss Condy!!!) will publish its rankings starting in November. If you despise top men and credentialed experts, second-guessing color peaks in just a few weeks!
Meanwhile, where are we in our weekly idiocy? Has the AP poll already stepped on every rake possible!? Well, more less, yes: it’s getting very quiet.
Newest Week N + 1 Post-Iowa Most OverRated Football Programs
1 SMU has shot up to a ridiculous 19th slot and so joins our list this week in time to take on Memphis dispatcher Temple
2 Minnesota plays pointless Rutgers, a week off compared to their run up hill Big 10.
3 Appalachian State should be catch and release size, but we’re running out of teams to make fun of, and they play South Carolina in a few weeks, so they step up to our list in time to play the U-La-Monroe Warhawks nee Indians.
4 Boise State travels to play there’s-just-too-much-to-get-into-here-so-let-it-go BYU.
5 Oregon travels to play the barely-ranked University of Starbucks
Honorable mentions – LSU is great, but they’re probably not top two: any such notion disrespects a continent of football, the mark of excited over-reaction after an admittedly big win. Notre Dame is still not a top ten team, but suddenly they’re ranked ahead of Georgia which recently beat them. We’ve already taken Utah down, but some folks are slow learners, so that stock is enjoying a dead cat bounce. Florida isn’t ninth, but that’s close. Enough! So how many trophies do we have on the mantle now?
Year to Date Hides on the Wall
1 Georgia lost at home to the second-best team from South Carolina
2 Utah lost to an unrated USC but is still over-bought
2 Stanford was revealed by USC
2 Syracuse was unranked after Maryland
2 Michigan was blown out by Wisconsin
6 UCF was edged by an unranked Pitt
7 Iowa was no number 15 as Michigan proved, and they continue to be pantsed weekly
7 Wake Forest allowed Louisville to hang 62 on them
7 Cal was dumped from the AP after losing to Arizona State
10 Iowa State was dethroned before their decent showing against Iowa
10 Memphis lost to possibly 80th best team in the nation Temple and disappeared
10 Michigan State slowly fell out of the ratings, so I was right after all
13 Clemson was dethroned by Mack Brown retirement project UNC
14 Texas lost to the university of Texas at Norman (mid-season toldjasos™)
14 Texas probably over-paid for losing to titan LSU (early-season toldjasos™)
16 Auburn probably over-paid for losing to Florida
16 Texas A&M probably over-paid for quality losses against Clemson and Auburn
18 Washington State was de-ranked after becoming lowly UCLA’s first win
19 Virginia continues to lose after losing to can-play-with-UGA Notre Dame
Year to Date It-Would-Seem Blown Calls Because They’re Doing Okay Really Well
1 LSU
2 Oklahoma has gotten better all year and refused to lose to Texas
3 Florida seems to have earned their status by defeating top-ten Auburn
Let’s score this year 19–3-3 so far. That is to say: the voted-upon rankings of college football teams are rather wrong rather often. So closes another week!
links to older opinions: 2091-10-10 2019-10-03 2019-09-26 2019-09-19 2019-09-13 2019-09-06
Disclosure of sources of bias: your writer has attended the University of Tennessee, Memphis State and the University of Memphis, Christian Brothers College . . . and he sleeps with an alumna of Georgia whose parents met at Washington State . . . and his son went to Houston . . . and he never met anyone from TCU he didn’t like . . . and he irrationally hates Notre Dame, UCF, Clemson, and Notre Dame.
Something, something UNLV!
all my exes live in Texas,
That’s why I hang my hat, in AZ!!!!
Good job, lots of info!
I always sing that song as ‘All my exes owe back taxes’ because fuck taxes, or some such!
Utah lost to an unrated USC but is still over-bought
Meh we’ll see. I could see them continuing as they have been, or just crapping the bed.
If it helps clarify things, Utah lost to a terrible USC that has still lost to BYU.
really… I think this Game against ASU this week will tell.
One team that was supposed to be great was Washington, and they’ve shite the bed.
Washington has had an excellent schedule so far. There’s every reason to believe they and Utah are in a dead heat somewhere just inside the top 20, but no better.
I got my games mixed up. I thought Washington had Lost to USC as well.
Washington State on the other hand…
WSU was over-ranked earlier in the year: called that and hung their hide on my wall much earlier in the season . . . back around national Talk Like A Pirate Day.
One of the kids my son played O line with in Texas 5A (when there were only five A) is on Leach’s staff. My in-laws met there. Pretty town!
So, if anything, Washington is under-rated just because they have two losses. As things look now, they have home field for Utah, so they might win that game by a couple of points.
But the AP has Washington at 25th and Utah at 13th when both should be around 17.
Ok i checked ESPN, and i’ll agree with you that they are out of their mind thinking ASU only has 18% chance of winning.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401114158
ASU will lose, but even at home it will be work for Utah to cover 13.5 . . . more like nine.
Boise State travels to play there’s-just-too-much-to-get-into-here-so-let-it-go BYU
At this point it’s practicaly Bye-YU.
It’s not like 80s, now they kick out QBs who are drunks. And they can’t win.
I’m still pissed that they beat USC (i mean i’m glad they did fuck USC) but Utah lost to USC.
you got it
So you have dual loyalty? You shifty bastard!
I might be a Mormon, but i went to the devils school.
UNLV?
U of U.
Yeah, but Vegas was settled by Mormons…is Sin City…Forget it CPRM it is Mormontown…
The “Mormon Mafia” was there. Accountants and booze holders of the mafia.
I used that little tidbit of history for my Prohibition book.
too*
The Mormon Mafia was there, too*
I was not minimizing what you said, just adding to it.
Vegas is so close to hell you can see sparks?
Yeah i think it’s funny that Sin City was settled by Mormon colonists. Calgary Canada was another Mormon Town.
and yes i think after (((them))), [[[we]]] make up a large portion of the glibs.
booze holders
Trust the guy who won’t drink it i guess?
Oh, dude, don’t forget the Mexico settlements.
Yep.
That was my dad’s job at his office Christmas parties. I don’t think he actually tended bar, but he was in charge of the inventory.
I actually find that quite curious.
My various circles of Mormonity account for right-wing and left-wing, but not libertarian or even conservatarian.
I think ‘such and such’ practicing agnostics is the biggest group. Me, I’m a Catholic who stopped attending local mass because my perish had gone too non-catholic for my tastes, and also I’m usually either at work or sleeping one off on Sunday morning.
My various circles of Mormonity account for right-wing and left-wing, but not libertarian or even conservatarian.
Oh i’m not saying in general, I’m just saying there are a lot of [[[us]]] here.
No living in Utah i see 2 general political flavors: Traditionalists and Young “Radicals”.
Traditionalists are what you typically think of. Conservative, Generally Older, but not exclusively, and while not apolitical, it’s not necessarily the most important thing. They have strong political opinions, and can be boneheaded when it comes to “Team” or “Muh Blue Line”.
Then you have the Young “Radicals”. Think kinda SJW-esque. They are typically younger, urban, Haughty and will trip over themselves to express the Correct (TM) opinion. They will read politics into a lot, and are generally obnoxious, self-absorbed, and think that because they watch CNN and not Fox they are both Rebellious and Smart. Quick to being offended and labeling the Older Conservative types as “x”-ist.
@leon, yes. That all what you said.
For just my amusement; Have either of watched “Big Love“? I’d love to know your take on it. Growing up with Wisconsin Mormons, a lot of it rang true. (We don’t have the fundy types here, but stories of such made it here)
I haven’t seen it. I do travel to southern Utah quite a bit, which is where the big fundamentalist enclaves are, and so you will see the families every once in a while.
It’s actually interesting because Utah is the only state to Constitutionally forbid polygamy.
No, I haven’t watched it.
I don’t have HBO and even if I did, it’s not something that would interest me. I would go to the mat for polyamory to have the same legal rights as gay marriage, but I don’t want to watch it.
It just seems so cringey to me.
Kissing DC’s ass to get into the union.
Something about HBO producing makes me think, “Nah, I’ll pass.”
Legally, I’d be fine with polygamy. A man marrying several wives and having legal responsibility for all the kids is better doing the same without marrying any of the baby mamas. I just found the show to be a great drama, I loved most thing Bill Paxton did, and the bits regarding LDS that they had (as it was about fundamentalists mostly) rang true to what my local LDS friends said. No prob if you don’t want anything to do with it, just thought I’d ask.
(BTW, MOJ, the whole ME BEING BETTER AT MUSIC BECAUSE ME BE DJ was a joke. I apologize if that wasn’t clear snark)
Paxton
I was always amazed at how many actors came out of Fort Worth (motto: very solid Mormon community)
Oh, it just seems cringey to me in the way you look back on your adolescence and cringe at some of the things you did.
As for the DJ thing, I thought it was a joke at first and played along, but it kept going. I tried to bow out, but it went past its expiration date into “No, I’m not kidding at all” territory.
I have zero problems with you. I just wanted to shut down that particular conversation.
I really, really enjoyed Big Love. The casting was spot on. Also, it was made by the same production company as Veronica Mars and utilized many of the same actors – in our house, we enjoy playing ‘Spot the Plyggy in Neptune’ when we watch our 2nd fave teen detective solve some crime.
Tangentially, I have family in the casino biz in Colorado. They hire Mormons as often as they can because they are (according to casino owner) the most fanatically honest employees a sin biz could have and they are not as tempted to engage in shenanigans as non-Mormon employees.
OT: Zuck defends policy of allowing politicians to lie in ads
I guess to the left, everything they say is true, according to their super duper smart fact checkers, so it can’t be wrong.
Sorry to go OT so soon but I’m about to log off for the night.
These videos on twitter regarding Mexican cartels vs. police are INSANE
https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1184969545032830977?s=20
If only the average citizen could do the same all men would be equal.
Ok one more link then I’m out
“this is the most cat thing ive ever seen”
https://twitter.com/disharryland/status/1184564314591694850?s=20
That was rather fun. The honking dog was great, too.
Oregon is probably my next big miss. I’ve been carrying that pick for a long time, and it’s not looking like I will be right.
They’ve got a great schedule and are playing well: big old crow pie, it seems.
Let’s see if Washington can top them (I hope so cause screw Oregon (yes i know i sound spiteful, but Oregon and USC are the two teams i cannot stand at all)
yup, that’s a pick’em; Oregon by two.
I must say that both ESPN and the spread are pretty much right.
So why is Washington 25 and Oregon 13?
This is my only point with my weekly diatribe: the AP polls show that people just can’t reconcile a few simple things at one time. Most of the voting is historical, hysterical bias . . . it’s just riddled with obvious conflicts that point to at least a few errors every week.
But it’s voted on, like the president: lots of people agree with the same idiocy.
The idea is that with lots of people the errors should balance out. But that assumes the errors are being made in random directions and distances.
My guess… Is because the ratings are heavily influenced by what their current record is NOW not what the expected record will be. Like you said Washington is 2-2, despite having played fairly well and good schedules so far. So even if they ended the season with only two losses, because they are a strong team that just lost twice, the expectation is that they will continue to loose because they have been loosing.
If we wanted to get philosophical about it we could go into a discussion of empiricism etc.
empiricism
I’m a design of experiments type.
But it’s easier than that (well, kinda). Like Clemson: I didn’t hafta be a genius to assert that there are at least four or five teams that are as good or better than Clemson and that sooner or later it would prove out.
I’m a design of experiments type.
I’m not a statistician by any means, but i did work with it a bit in school and right after college, and what i learned was that any study (particularly in the social sciences) that doesn’t have a statistician consulting on it, is way more suspect than claimed. There is just so much to go wrong from experimental design all the way through collection and data analysis. And it’s not that you have to be careful, there is a lot of nuance and assumptions that lay statisticians aren’t thinking about. For example i don’t know how often i’ve seen normal distributions used, without any reference to why what is being measured should be expected to meet the assumptions of the normal distribution.
could not have put it better
but, good news: with only 900 data points the Central Limit Theorem can manage any amount of skewness !
same with Georgia
There’s still talk about them making the playoff! I could just think of eight teams that were as good or better. They were third; now they’re tenth.
That’s all I’m doing, and it’s right 19-3 so far.
It’s been this way for as long as can remember, the playoff changed nothing. Unless you are team ranked well in the pre-season, and win all your games by the ‘expected margins’ you’ll never get a chance. Clemson could go undefeated versus nobodies, and BYU could go undefeated against ranked teams, and 90% of the time Clemson would get the title bid, even with this joke of a playoff system.
There’s something to what you’re saying, but, even going back through the BCS, try to think of a team that was over-looked. We’re about 20 years in and can’t really point to many national champions who dodged the big king killer.
Maybe Auburn had such a claim once? I got nothing.
yup: 2004 Auburn
““A backfield of SEC Offensive Player of the Year Jason Campbell and two top-five NFL picks in Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams complemented a punishing defense that only gave up 173.5 yards per game to help the Tigers run the table in the SEC on their way to a 13–0 season and a Sugar Bowl win over Virginia Tech. Auburn had five wins over top-15 teams, surpassing the total between USC and Oklahoma, the teams that eventually played in the BCS championship game.
But that’s the thing, football is great because of ‘any given Sunday’ yet all the rankings are based on who you played, but teams vying for the championship won’t ever play other teams out of conference unless they know they can beat them soundly enough to get a ‘quality win’ So now for out of conference games the big schools pay smaller schools they figure they can whallop to play them. Ranking is based on strength of schedule, but stronger opponents won’t play you out of conference unless they think they can win by the margin. It only guarantees recruitment goes to those same schools. It makes things static and boring.
again that’s partly true
last year, for example, the top three teams had the three hardest schedules
what else are they supposed to do for you?
They can’t do anything for me; college football is an unwatchable mess for me. Each team has maybe 1 player good enough to make it to one of the 32 NFL teams, and I think 32 NFL teams is too many for the talent pool. There is MAYBE 16 teams worth of professional talent. I
don’t have an answer for College, because it has been unwatchable for over 20 years, and probably well before that. There are just too many teams. If say a UNLV, to pick my hobby horse, won’t ever get a title shot unless they go undefeated against every top 10 ranked team, then maybe you need to slim down the 1A.
https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2019/10/think-young-people-hostile-capitalism-now-just-wait-next-recession/
Oh, but Burny is gonna totes rescue everybody, because, central planners are magic like that, and never, ever abuse the power they crave.
It’s the Chicago/Market Monetarists fault. They argue and argue and argue about how Free markets are so important, but that the Federal Reserve is super important too. It makes it way easier for the Marxists to claim it is the free markets fault, despite the economy being intervened in by the Central Bank. Marxists get to say “Hey we have no influence” even though a Central Bank was a main tenant of the Communist Manifesto, because the Mainstream economists defend it.
These Things Are Disappearing Because Millennials Refuse To Pay For Them
Yeah, it’s a clickbait article and you have to hit “next slide” continuously, but it was interesting.
“A study uncovered that 75% of millennials don’t have any life insurance. They don’t have it because they can’t afford it.”
Bullshit. First of all they already pointed out that millennials are very single, and single people don’t need life insurance. Second, it cost maybe 21 bucks a month?
So my mother and I were sitting in Red Lobster having a nice lunch for Mother’s Day or somesuch and I told her I was going to buy a motorcycle.
She said, NO YOU ARE NOT!
I laughed and said, “Um…yeah. I am.”
FINE! YOU BETTER BUY LIFE INSURANCE SO I CAN BURY YOU!
We attracted many eyeballs.
The FUNNY part is that to this day, we tell this story and we both think it’s hilarious and the people we tell it to are just … poleaxed. They are shocked and do not find this funny at all.
I’m upper end of ‘Millennial’ I have no one and nothing, why would I pay anything that only pays out if I’m not here? I’ll be buried in the Potter’s Field, what’s it matter to me?
You don’t have anyone who would take care of your arrangements?
After all I’ve done for people, I would hope so, but given the way my life has played out, no one would notice I even died unless they needed something from me. It is what it is.
I’m sorry. 🙁
Hospital update. Finally got moved out of ER. I’Im on saline drip Gravol drip pain stent antibiotic injections and nicotine patches. Might find out in the morning if surgery for my hernia. Won’t be posting much because phone. Thanks for all the well wishes. You Glibs are the best!
Stay strong. And steal me some opioids.
Can someone bring me up to speed on Festus??
I had no idea he went in to the hospital.
#MeEither I can’t leave you kids alone for one fucking day!?
Pancreatitis. Went to the ER this morning.
Pancreas is like the Appendix’s Appendix, right? I don’t know biology.
It’s a gland. Regulates insulin and makes the acid that goes into your stomach, stuff like that.
Pancreatitis is an inflammation of the pancreas, which, I’ve heard is as painful as kidney stones. I have had neither pancreatitis nor kidney stones, so I can’t vouch for that.
Yeah, I know…I guess I’ll just go to bed, my comedy stylings are no longer wanted round these parts…
Sorry. Sometimes I really can’t tell.
Most of the time I just have so much on my mind and I read so fast I miss stuff.
Also, it’s 1:00 a.m. and I’m wiped.
I tell ya–those cloths come in quite handy.
I might be broke, but I can do better than a whore’s bath. 😉
You saucy, you…
Another of the Glibs has chronic pancreatitis and said it wasn’t like acute pancreatitis which was painful as fuck.
I’ve known three people with kidney stones. Two are coworkers and both went to the hospital, one in an ambulance. My wife had one that had to be surgically removed. Drink water. Particularly with lemon.
Thank you.
Oh, shit, Festus… You best get well, young man!
Hope it all goes well. And don’t enable CPRM.
Don’t worry, I can enable myself, I don’t need help from a filthy canuck.
Get better bro. I don’t care if you’re Canadian, I still care!
Hang in there, Festus. Get well!
Wishing you well too Festus.
Wake Forest- at least Miami University is in the Miami Valley.
Love and honor!
1) I want to thank Dog, the Astros are up 3-1 in this series. B) have you watched El Camino? Netflix sucked, I was ready to cancel, then they pull this shit out of their ass? Brilliant! Watch the final episode of Breaking Bad before delving in. Or if you’ve got a good enough memory, dive right in. Either way, if you liked BB, you should like El Camino.
Night, Glibbies. Time to chaw on some Tylenol PM and pass out.
Stupid deer decided to lay down and sleep in the front yard. Dog is going nuts.
Of course, when I do that, everyone tells me, “Go home, Sir Digby; you’re drunk.”
Did you tell it to get off your lawn, like a good, aged glib?
Like the kids, it’s ignoring me. I don’t feel like getting my shoes on so the venison wins. This time.
Rotten cervidae bastards!!!
Late night laughs, anyone?
Anyone??
Reminds me of the glory days of British comedy.
Oh, look what you made me do, Gustave…
Dammit. And I should have been asleep. Snooze button will be here sooner than later.
Snooze button? I don’t trust that thing, I instead set the alarm to a new time in my sleep.
/not kidding in the least
https://youtu.be/HUN4un32Q6U
Razorfist is on a tear.
Yusef was commenting on this last thread. I imagine it’s difficult to see your home state get such a thrashing due to the assholes and asshole-enablers.
Not that I would know anything about that, as Texas is completely free from that menace….
::ahem::
/sorry, CPRM–“assole”
Ho Lee Shit!
I don’t get it.
But, you will…..
I will never get it. Do not like!!
I’d totally get the graphic version, with the biggest image, but now you say you’re gonna change avatars. Maybe for old times’ sake. ***SNIFF!!**
Break open those piggy banks!
https://www.phillyvoice.com/pennsylvania-auctioning-76-year-old-world-war-ii-era-duck-boat/
(also posted in dead thread. I hadn’t realized all y’all had moved on.)
*drinks more coffee*
Hmmmm…. maybe we’d have fewer boating accidents.
‘Mornin’ Sean!
Good morning GT.
And in local news:
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/lehighvalley/police–year-old-robbed-while-trying-to-purchase-pistol/article_6daac6be-f11c-11e9-9daa-97a66cca5f08.html
“WILSON BOROUGH, Pa. – A 16-year-old was robbed by two other teens while trying to purchase a pistol, the Wilson Borough Police Department said in a news release.”
…but 16-year-olds are totes mature & smart enough to vote!
I don’t care about recreational mj anymore. That ship sailed a lifetime ago.
However, this I approve of:
“The bill provides for automatic expungement of previous criminal convictions, dismissal of pending charges, and commutation of sentences.”
https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/pennsylvania/pa-lawmakers-introduce-bill-that-would-legalize-cannabis-use-for/article_fcee7b44-ef83-11e9-b724-eb2ceb041014.html
*Narrator: It’s still illegal at the Federal level*
Baby steps, Sean, baby steps. The issue is such a loser culturally at this point the federal government will eventually give up.
Prediction: Vaping is banned at the federal level before weed gets decriminalized…the world is so fucking stupid at times.
Smoking pot leads to watching stuff like this: http://www.itsaturday.com/The-Day-My-Butt-Went-Psycho!-2013–
Huh, when I was a wee stoner lad I just watched Looney Tunes. Watching Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff or getting smashed/exploded never, ever got old.
I’m off to the races. To those of you for whom Friday is the end of the work week, cheers! To those of you for whom it’s just another day in the sausage grinder, courage!
Later!