I turned fiddy this month and was thinking about things that I’ve always avoided because I sucked at them. Sketching is a huge weak point, so I decided to try and improve as much as I can over a month. I’m not going to classes or anything. I’m just going to watch YouTube videos and visit other websites to see what tips I can add to my arsenal. Why not join me? Saying you can’t because you are terrible is not much of an excuse given it’s not about how good you are. It’s about what you can pick up in your free time over a month.
Guidelines:
Choose a pic or something real that you can sketch again in a month.
Spend no more than 45 minutes sketching it as well as you can.
Use online or other resources to improve.
Do the same sketching again in a month. (30 days as of this posting)
The only thing I ask is that you post your first attempt in the comments here. Even if the thread is dead and you’re a couple days or weeks late, plop it in the comments. When the month is up, we’ll do another write up and have you post your pictures in the comments. Even better, if you can send your pics to TPTB before the posting, we can put your pics up top for all to see without clicking.
Here are some of my attempts for the first sketch. Hope I get better, cuz ugh…. A mouth, nose and eye.
Great artwork. I’ll be watching from the sidelines. My hands are at the point where writing out a shopping list is a challenge.
BTW, if anybody wants some sloppy seconds, Swallwell’s Fart is available.
Ewwwwww.
No thank you, sir!
*snort*
Cali Fart porn?
Looks like fun, and nice work Straff, I’m a bit busy right now, too many things to do, but I’ll watch, sounds like Fun!
https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/lhF5C3lnR72PNYIjdm_oig.ViEKd4776tfcgvyGmXH5k-
More talent than I have straffin.
Only one way up from there. Those pics I drew were just following YouTube tutorials. I’ll post some links to them.
Here’s for the mouth.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FoQxIgBTCNE
Bookmarked.
And for the eye.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ9Hpp8JygI
Also bookmarked.
post your first attempt in the comments here. Even if the thread is dead and you’re a couple days or weeks late, plop it in the comments
post a link?
Sure. I use Imgur.
Like this.
https://imgur.com/a/WrwkF7l
I’ll try next round. I’ll be out of the country for 2 weeks so prolly not the best time to learn a new skill.
Joke’s on you, I’ve been challenged all my life.
Yay! Thanks for organizing this. It’ll be fun. Any media restrictions?
I’ll post something this weekend.
Yes. No power point. ?
No? Anything is fine. Hoping to be able to steal techniques from y’all that actually can draw. I’m gonna fake it till I make it.
I am sure your penchant for drawing fornicating cartoons will be allowed, weirdo.
I quit an architecture education when they wanted me to sketch stuff.
I took mechanical drawing and architecture in high school.
I gave up when I learned how little the average architect made.
*No regrets*
My architect buddies do fine but yeah not everyone is a “star”, same as any field.
I haven’t even finished the damn article I promised.
Drawing has never been a forte for me. I’ve got engineer sensibilities when it comes to shape and firm. Even my photography is rather rectilinear.
That said, I’m going to watch the videos and think about it.
I’m an engineer when it comes to drawing. Everything human ends up a robot, every flower a light fixture, and pretty much everything organic becomes metal, ceramic, or glass.
Draw something you love. Maybe a bottle of Chita?
Ok, you sucked me in. This one at least.
https://imgur.com/xywTNvT
Almost empty. Now you got an excuse to get another bottle.
From a picture. Bottle is long gone to the recyclers. Sadly, liquor run doesn’t overcome my wife’s desire for me to finish my promised honey do minor home renovations. Maybe next year after the Olympics when the stunning new beautiful Harajuku and Tanagawa Gateway stations are open.
Three Experts on African Weather Fact-Check Toto’s ‘Africa’
Yep.
But why?
Another fresh kill for cancel culture?
The scansion is terrible, anyway.
The same goes for “You’re So Vain”.
Make Africa Superior Again
MASA?!?
LOL!
“There are no wild dogs calling to each other in the night! That doesn’t exist. I’m not only a meteorologist, I’m also a Savannah ecologist, and the concept of wild dogs calling to each other in the night irritates me immensely, because wild dogs don’t call to each other in the night at all. They don’t even really call to each other during the day! They’re thinking of hyenas, not dogs.”
OFFS!
Someone should write “AKSHUALLY” on a 2X4 and hit this guy in the nuts with it, forever.
I don’t get the ‘obsession’ with that stupid, annoying song, but come on. Who cares?!
I’m not a fan, but it is excellent composition.
True Fact:
Toto was named after the toilet company.
I gotta mention that citing Toto in a drawing post is apropos. They could really hold the line.
That was A-ha’s “Take On Me.”
Ahem, holding the line.
Far better song than “Africa,” BTW.
Spicier version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MOWr0kPemQ
Now do Band Aid.
Next on buzzkill central: an architect, a carpenter, and a theologian fact-check Stairway to Heaven
Can a person really rock and roll all night and party every day? A sleep expert says no.
How about “part of every day”?
Wait a minute… Are you saying that wasn’t the lyrics? OH – now I get it!!
(((They))) sure know how to rock!
I believe they had this one song…it was about the singer’s dick. And, how this chick was gonna get some of his dick.
Yeah, when I was a kid, I was way into art. My brother and I made a bunch of money painting Christmas scenes on business windows. There are people who live all year off the money they make doing that for two months. I used to draw up a storm, but now I’m not quite as good.
Yeah, the skills really atrophy. At least it means practice can bring them back
Thanks a whole lot for drawing my nose.
I’ll be expecting royalties for this.
A style that Scuffy, Timeloose and Rhywun might prefer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TAsUxmIwikc
*nightmare flashbacks*
Count me in. I’ll find something to draw… not sure what. Something with good shadows, my hatching needs work.
A guy I knew in middle and high school was an incredible artist. I mean, really, really talented with pen and ink. He’d do a lot of stuff with Marvel characters, sort of full scene pen and ink pictures. He never went anywhere with it, though, which I always thought was a shame. Doesn’t bother him any, which is what’s important, but I don’t know…if I had a talent along those lines I think I would have at least kept up with it. Same with music with several of my friends. Played in bands and stuff like that, but stopped and never picked it back up.
My son’s like that right now in high school. HIs art teachers fawn over him and are doing everything they can to keep him going in art. People coo over his paintings, and he’s already been paid for a logo he designed. I hope he keeps it up, but yeah, interests change and you can’t really stop that. It would definitely be a shame.
What’s worse, the stupid characterization of these stupid remarks or the stupid remarks?
What if I turn the lips pic 90º and re-title it ?
Pink Taco?
My wife laying down?
I know better. Asians have horizontal slant vagine. Duh.
Dlaw me rike your Flench girls?
Dammit, Tres….takin’ my idea, that I totally had well before you had it!
Wasn’t supposed to be a whoreshack test.
Buuut….you won’t be disappointed if it works out that way, right?
I can’t even draw curtains.
The next time you break up with your partner, pay Mark McGrath and his horrific face to do it for you
LOL
Best reply by A MILE:
Holy Shit.
Oh. My. god.
Rick Nielsen only costs $50!!!!
Gilbert Gottfried is the best. I am seriously considering to pay him after my friend’s wife has their child, but only if it is via c-section so that I can ask Gilbert to comment on my friend’s wife’s vagina.
All for like 150.
Thank you, Al gore.
Manny Pacquiao is $1000! Someone needs to check his ego.
Chris D’Elia is $50,000. That’s a man who knows.
I don’t even know who that is.
You could have just said, “I am old.”
Oldie.
Make Aging Great Again
It looks like his latest face lift didn’t take – ack!
Mark is not aging gracefully, apparently.
Fun fact: Sugar Ray, The Goo Goo Dolls, and Fastball toured together in ’99.
Sugar Ray and Everlast also toured together in ’99…what was that like?
I prefer ’89 Goo Goo Dolls.
Nice. I saw Goo Goo Dolls in ’90 or ’91 when they did a free concert at my college. I was one of about 5 people in the audience. I immediately went out and bought their most recent album and listened to it constantly for the next several months.
I should pick that up – I have Jed. I know they were getting more “commercial” by then….
Being locals it was kind of neat seeing them shopping at the “cool” record store one time.
Fun fact: Motley Crue, Def Leppard, and Poison are touring next year.
Poison. Ugh.
That’s the rumor. Is it official yet?
Also, Poison is a much much-maligned band. Kinda like Steely Dan.
So you’re saying they should be maligned?
I know…confusing.
Poison is a better band than many give them credit for.
Steely Dan…I will take a second
looklisten at.Oh, it’s official. I hadn’t said anything here because Imknow the late-night Glibs will roll their eyes at me and say, “Oh there she goes again, like no other bands exist.”
Here’s an interesting quote from your guy, Nikki. I have to say I agree with him:
Nikki’s the best.
I get the feeling that Nikki is the peacemaker between Tommy and Vince. Mick does and has always kept to himself, stayed quiet, and let the others do their thing.
It occurs to me he might just be bored and want to get back on stage. SixxAM isn’t doing anything—hasn’t done anything for years, so maybe that’s tapped out. They never intended to do a tour in the first place and Heroin Diaries was a side project of the book and intended to be once and done. Quite frankly, SixxAM is a better band with better (more interesting) material.
So…boredom? Missing the stage? That’s my bet.
The stage. The fans. That’s what it’s all about.
It’s just frustrating that they somehow thought they could get their “fix” without being in Motley Crue, and then that it only took 4 1/2 years to change their minds. If they had done this 10+ years from now, I don’t think it would be such a big deal.
I know “we’re putting the band back together” is official (and they used the Tommy Lee actor from their movie to announce it? WTF?). But I haven’t yet seen any official tour info.
Never trust a big butt and a smile.
How about big tiddies and a smirk?
‘Cause, I’m OK with giving that a bit of
thrusttrust.If I bought a ticket or a VIP package to Motley’s last tour I would be PISSED. That was supposed to be it. No more Motley Crue. Last time to see them, etc.
I know plenty of other bands have done the same thing. They are hardly alone. But… there was a lot of history leading up to their announcement. They knew how it would be perceived. They were sober, financially sound, and their last album was a good one. In other words, they no reason to end it unless they wanted too and no excuse for making the announcement if they didn’t mean it.
I’m sure the tour will go fine and they’ll make a ton of money. But to my mind, they stepped in shit and the stink hasn’t worn off.
Throw Mick’s health issues into the mix and yeah…everyone thought they meant it.
Even the apologists on SiriusXM are saying, “we all knew they’d do it…but so quickly?!”
There’s people that dropped a LOT money for all the “extra” bullshit that surrounded the last tour. Fuck the Crue.
Mick is one slip-and-fall away from a coffin.
This is true. I’ll grudgingly admit if the tour was somehow connected to his health then I would give them a pass.
Oh you mean like if it’s last hurrah?
Yes
#ISmellToastTour
Much as I love Crue, I am not happy about this. They moved on. We moved on. No GenXers taking their Zoomers to see Motley Crue since Zoomers don’t seem to listen to rock anyway (or so it seems to me)—the last concert I went to was Rush Snakes & Arrows and all us middle-aged fat folks were there having a good time. Many other couples brought their teenage kids who sat there bored and sulky like it was church.
If Ozzy ever gets healthy enough to tour again I’m taking my 14 year old. She loves when her old man rocks out and genuinely likes quite a bit of the metal I listen too.
Same ol’ sugar to me?
Is it illegal to burn down a cable company?
If I press 1 for English, I get someone who can’t speak English.
If I press 2 for Spanish, I get someone who doesn’t know anything in Spanish.
There should be a third button, where I just get random ape noises.
It’s legal in Trump’s America.
random ape noises
Thats a band name if I’ve ever heard one
Can I just photoshop it?
You get to work in the animation mines, you unemployed ne’er-do-well!
New cartoon rendering now, the mines are fruitful….and I’m not unemployed, I’m under-employed, still got my self-employment work.
Blessing in disguise, hopefully? Start kicking ass on your own stuff? Think big!
I think it’s time to look for a full time job, in poverty is getting boring.
It happens to the best of us. Don’t let it get you down. You never know what and where it may lead.
Massachusetts State Police have quietly started using Boston Dynamics’ robot dog ‘Spot’ in a first for US law enforcement
Wait until the blue wall protects Spot from killing a pet/toddler.
Someone never read Fahrenheit 451.
It is supposed to be the Firemen who use the dogs, not the police.
I wonder when it will go full Robocop.
You have seven seconds to comply.
Hey, Big Juggs, what’s stupider than the other stupid things you have posted tonight?
‘Ford v Ferrari’ is the climate change horror film nobody needed
omg
Well then.
Wait…your nickname is “Big Juggs”?
Yes.
I thought it some sort of weird shot at Tres’ Jugsy.
Heh.
I’m not a car person but after reading that now I want to go buy a can of gasoline and empty it into New York Bay just because I can.
Hmm, I wasn’t planning to see it but now I feel I should buy a ticket even if I just don’t go to the movie
I also am not a car person, but this actually looked interesting to me.
This Couple Will Pay You $40K a Year to Watch Their Adorable Golden Retrievers
working weeknds? what is this, Nazi Germany?
There are days when that is tempting.
Did someone rediscover hiring a servant?
It’s the UK. They never forgot.
Still going with guess #2: weird sex thing.
Paging CPRM. CPRM, please pick up the red courtesy phone.
+1 tradesmen’s’ entrance to the officer barracks for Other Ranks
Fuck that.
works for me
Thanks for running this straff! I’ll post something this weekend, I’m thinking I’ll try to sketch the doggo.
My attempt
In seventh grade, I couldn’t decide whether I wanted to be an artist or a scientist. By ninth grade, I had met enough people with real artistic talent to know that I didn’t have any.
So I wound up an engineer.
Okay, that’s it. Crusty needs to be shunned until he puts his avatar back on. WHO’S WITH ME?!?
Ayup
I don’t give a shit about his avatar, but ol’ Big Juggs should be shunned for linking to “Grist”.
Also, he should be shunned until he puts his avatar back on.
How about the rest of you take my lead and boycott avatars? Let’s rise up against The Man!
Damn. You caved like a Pakistani apartment building in a 4.0 earthquake.
???
This site is run by SP. You can’t really rise up against The Man here.
Monday Night Football would be so much more enjoyable if Booger McFarlane had aphasia.
He has made MNF unwatchable. Thus why I’m watching Cook’s Country recordings instead.
They have the worst announcers ever.
Given that it’s The Lamar Jackson Show tonight (so far), I can block out the Snotman.
Booger, please.
ok booger
Anarchy!
Anarchy!
Anarchy!
Attica!
Attica!
Attica!
I think I heard the opening chords to Holiday in the Sun during the Patriots game on Sunday.
That’s not like “smelling toast”, is it?
I hope not!
Same here, bud!
::fist bump::
The only acceptable use of that song.
It was the Sex Pistols’ Holiday in the Sun.
https://youtu.be/2Ah1JM9mf60
Say ‘fuck’ in front of your mom!
“Wanna get off caffeine? Expose your butthole to the sun!”
https://twitter.com/PetiteNicoco/status/1199115585700937728
Would.
Christ, what an asshole!
Uh…. yeah… I suppose getting a sunburn down there would get you moving….
Not a terrible idea, some Vitamin D might be good
Science!
“President Trump signs the Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture (PACT) into law
The bill makes it a Federal crime to engage in animal crushing”
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1199136929230573570
Didn’t Bill Clinton already do that?
Finally the widespread affliction of animal crushing is over.
At least Congress is finally tackling the difficult problems facing America.
I remember when people used to say “this is a free country” and “make a federal case out of it” meant it was a big deal.
Ok boomer.
I live for the when someone gets clever enough to mock this in a video with random people doing the “Sooner!” call-back.
Nobody’s stopping you, toots.
Well, to be fair, the spousal unit does it whenever someone says “Boomer” to her.
/it’s not been the “boomer insult, yet
//I feel no need to record that
///I don’t find the night all that lonely
If I don’t promote, nothing happens, We are getting there, all thanks to the Glibs,
https://www.gofundme.com/f/v8pdm-getting-to-arizona?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1
I promise a future for the 2 of us, ask me for details…
Geez, wonder what Q will be sketching for us?
Dick pics.
?
Ethan Hunt or James Bond>
? I sneezed.
I write because I can’t draw what I WANT to draw, as it appears in my head.
Your nose is awesome.
I can’t see your third pic.
And I like directing because other people never get the images I have in my head. I mean, take Hat and Hair, I’m sure few envisioned what I saw in it, and that wasn’t even something I created, and my skills are still to poor in animation to even give my vision justice.
I follow a subreddit called r/awfuleverything. That’s your NSFW warning.
Not exactly Dalí.
“Tough landing.” Ya think?.
“I think she may be…hurt”
?
Hard pass on #2
It’s not vulgar, just … painful.
Why not both??
I can’t watch stuff like that.
A man after my own heart. No way I’ll watch knowing she is about to suffer a gruesome injury.
Wifey bursts into tears when that stuff pops up on TV. Hence, Tosh.0 isn’t something she’s a fan of.
Of course, his banal, hackneyed edge-leftism (well, of his writers) is grating enough to forego it anyway.
Call me a hypocrite but I like Tosh.O.
I like some of the jokes, and he is a better human when he’s not in character (host). I admit I used to watch a lot more than I do, and I have attempted to hate-watch, but, I usually just turn him off after a while.
It’s that “why give business to people who shit on you, and aren’t prostitutes?” sort of thing for me.
But, no–I don’t consider you a hypocrite for liking the show.
Tosh was a great comedian. I gave up on the show years ago though.
I saw about 15 seconds of that show one time and said “nope”. Sadly, I missed any horror-injury videos. If that makes me “old”, well… I don’t give a flying fuck.
Not at all, but, I’m not a Millennial, so….
Like I said, https://youtu.be/Edro1zdMgh4
THAT DOES IT, BAD LINK! WORST DAY EVER! Here’s what I meant to link.
When they tell you to go “whole hog”, you tell them to go screw themselves.
New cartoon submitted, will be posted at the behest of TPTB, but it is a Thanksgiving episode. Might be more frequent cartoons for a while.
Is this, uh…is this where I spoil the joke again?
Callback!
Wait–I’m getting a callback? Like, I crushed that first audition??
Yep, you nailed the audition for the gimp! Show up at 11pm tomorrow and don’t talk, he doesn’t like that.
I’ll bring my mask!
That I rented! I totally rented it.
Never mind that shit: Jazz Shaw is much older than I imagined.
Yeah, I know his “Blue balling” certainly fits an older profile, but, I still figured he was 30’s/40’s.
Enjoy the ratio. That is what the kids say, isn’t it?
https://mobile.twitter.com/designmom/status/1198580238533439488
Here honey, attack that rapist with my life insurance policy!
Bless her stupid, idiotic heart.
Because, it will never happen. Until, it does.
The myopia is astonishing. She’s not wrong to take measures for all those other things. It’s the smarminess about also physically protecting yourself the chafes (drink!) me.
Yes, the insincere use of “safety” and that concept.
Hey, Professional Mommy–why not both, amirite??
::fist bump::
I don’t got no work, so I don’t gotta sleep; that’s how sleep works, right? Digby, I sent you a
love lettere-mailThat’s some tough shit to shovel, man. I hope that they will amend their ways, and I commend you for sticking to your guns. I hope your correspondence doesn’t result in anything negative, but, if it does, be sure to let me know. While I doubt there is anything I can do to help, I will certainly do so.
Gonna enjoy the kindness being offered…
You mean the one with the boss? Yeah I got fired. I thought you saw and that’s why you paged me on the dog sitting thing.
Oh! No, I didn’t see, that–you mentioned your job, and I just thought it fit from the bit I read. Damn…Well, my email makes less sense. I do hope there’s a quick turn-around.
As for the gift, that was probably some of the biggest (yuge!) laughs for me…from me? Eh, you get it.
“But, you tell me. Go ahead.” Priceless. Everything was spot-on.
Too much drama for a part-time gig. And yeah, that they would fire me for that when I was doing much more than my pay-grade required, that’s why I made sure I hit the reply-all, so everyone would see what shits they are.
I’m sorry they were douches to you and your friend. Like I said, I pray you can find something with a much better culture/command that you enjoy.
Meh, because of the spotty hours I was always thinking about needing to take on another job anyway. So might as well get that regular pay without the hassle. But first I think I’m gonna suckle a bit on that unemployment teet, I’ve never done that before, and crank out more cartoons.
I’m up for more cartoons, so, I’ll allow it.
Not my cartoon, but.
OK–I admit that I was expecting this.
A little disappointed, too.
TV Funhouse is Mos def an inspiration of mine, but given what I do, Fun with Real Audio has an out-sized roll, but I can’t find any clips now.
I recall some of those episodes.
I found one on Vimeo, it’s shit, but it’s the only one I could find that worked.
After having a lot of episodes with the Hat controlling Donald, it was fun to show again that he’s an empty vessel controlled by who is on his head, not far off from reality as far as I can tell.
OT: I seriously have no idea how to pick out gifts for people. Most other people in my life are 1) earning plenty of disposable income, so they immediately buy something if they want it, and 2) have hobbies/interests that I know absolutely nothing about and wouldn’t know what to buy.
I wish I could just come to an understanding with people that I love you, I’d do anything for you, but I’m not buying you anything because it’s stressful for me and I’d just end up getting you something stupid.
I’m pretty good at gifts. I think. No one has told me otherwise. But I usually only buy gifts for the kids in the family. When I buy for the adults, I think about what they say they want, and if it’s within my budget I buy it, otherwise I buy based on knowing what they like. But mostly, I just buy things I want that I know others want.
Fun fact: My girlfriend is a prolific sleep-talker; I can ask her any question and she’ll honestly answer it. She already spilled the beans on a few of my Christmas gifts that way. Anyway, I just said to her in her sleep, “What did Akira get you for Christmas?” and she listed off about five things that would make excellent gifts for her. They’re on the way.
Note to self: Develop prostitute/escort gift certificates. You pay, but don’t have sex with the professional; the recipient gets to have the rendezvous without paying.
Win. Win.
That sounds like a sound business plan, but given my recent choices, maybe I should seek council before investing.
You could certainly check the market, and see if any contractors are willing to participate…
Huh, seems like my body wants to do that sleep thing even if I don’t have job. The body is weak, purify the soul. Good night Sir Digby, I also like this latest episode, which makes me think it’ll bomb.
No, I say there are a lot of excellent references/jokes. We shall see.
‘Night, yo.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7724907/Massachusetts-State-Police-quietly-started-using-Boston-Dynamics-robot-dog-Spot-field.html#article-7724907
The Predator drone started as surveillance-only device. Lasted a few months before the Military requested incorporation of weapons.
Well, it’s right there in the name – Predator – so…yeah! If it wasn’t supposed to…ummm…pred-ate (word? Is now!) they’d have called it the Observer, amirite?/sarc
Good morning, hay! I hope all’s well witcha!
Haven’t watched the video, but from the pics, the “realism” of Spot’s jointed legs sure adds to the “creepy” factor.
Why is it 75 in my office? By the time the sun hits our windows (Western exposure), it will be over 80 in here. I shouldn’t have my desk fan going five days before December.
I usually have the same problem. I’m lucky enough to be in an office just because I process staff payroll and have everybody’s pay rates out on my desk every two weeks. My window faces north, but it’s STILL usually hot enough that I have to turn a fan on. We just can’t seem to get our computerized thermostat right. In other parts of the (one-story) building, my co-workers in the open areas with cubicles are usually cold.
(my “office” = private office)
We’re icky IT people, so we don’t have building space of our own, and everyone just shoves us aside when they want to make use of the space we’re currently in. So we end up pushed into the worst spots available.
Nevermind the fact that the same people who can’t even let us control our own office space always want something from us to make their jobs easier.
I’m lucky enough to be in an office just because I process staff payroll and have everybody’s pay rates out on my desk every two weeks.
Hmm, handling highly confidential information didn’t stop them from jamming us in an open office layout…
There are days when I miss my broomcloset office in the law firm.
I’d love to have a door. I swear, my biggest stressors are the noise and proxmity of coworkers.
My desk is behind two doors, one of which is permanently locked.
I just crack open a window when I get in.
I am usually warm in winter because I do not like to wear multiple layer and wear a tshirt or something in the office, I usually have a sweater on but the tshirt people keep trying to raise the temperature.
The windows here don’t open.
All windows open if you try hard enough
-Jack Handey
SKETCH MY DICK PIC!
I wanted to work on watercolors. So, it didn’t go well. https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZZhAByv9Mxr1Y52V7
Here’s a second, different attempt. https://photos.app.goo.gl/xBChCCPc2qfSHchf9. This includes the reference – a photo my nephew took.