The Job
If you read my previous post I had just accepted a short term job in New York City to sell Christmas trees. I walked to my work site after an impromptu meeting with the big boss man. As I walked back I tried to remember my basic knowledge of Christmas trees. Most of this knowledge was from my own experiences as a kid climbing trees and living through a Christmas with live trees. My family liked blue spruce trees, I was familiar with white and scotch pines, and I remembered Douglass fir trees were a bit wimpy at holding heavy ornaments. That was the entirety of my knowledge of the subject. I soon found out that my immediate job had little to do with selling trees.
I entered the stand at 110th and Broadway and noticed details I missed earlier in the morning. The stand was on the side of a fairly large grocery store called Gristedes. This store was allowing us to use their power, toilets, and part of their frontage on Broadway. As I passed the front window of the store I saw a fully decorated tree near the manager’s office.
Dean and I said our goodbyes and made plans to meet back up when he returned tomorrow night with another load of trees.
I walked up to the hut that Jerry had been sleeping in earlier and knocked on the frame with much less vigor than Dean had applied.
“Hello” I called out, “I’m here to start working. Bill told me to get started as soon as possible.”
As the tarp to the hut opened I saw a skinny big nosed guy a few years older than me get up.
“Don’t come knocking like that when I’m countin’ money,” he spat in a Scranton accent that I was all too familiar with.
“Sorry,” I said, “I just started about 15 minutes ago and I need to know what to do. I’m Time, Don and Bill sent me here to replace the guy that got sent home.”
“No praahblem, I’m Tony and I run the stand while Bill sits in the hut. Get over to the bench and start setting up trees with Lumpy.”
So I walked over to the green bench that was essentially a table with a two v-cuts added to the top to act as a saw horse. A guy, who I assume was Lumpy, was using the bench to attach the bases to the trees. He used the table to hold the bound trees while he sawed the trunks straight then hammered bases to the trees using a claw hammer and three eight-penny nails.
I introduced myself to Lumpy, then I grabbed trees off the pile I created that morning, before feeding them to the table. Lumpy was able to attach a base as fast as I could retrieve a bound tree. I then took the upright tree with the base attached to a holding area. We did this for about an hour before we really talked at all. I jumped in and allowed us both to be as productive as we could. Another guy who I hadn’t met started taking the trees we stood up and moved them into the forest on the sidewalk I noted earlier. He cut the twine binding them then gently spread out the branches.
After we stood all of the trees up, Lumpy and I stopped to clean up and talk a bit. I wanted to know more about the stand and what else we needed to do.
I lit up a smoke and turned to Lumpy and asked him, ”So what is the job like, what else do we have to do?”
Lumpy responded, “They tell me to stand up trees, sweep, and then I do it.”
I responded, ”Yea, I get that, but what else do you do?”
Lumpy repeated what he said earlier but added, “If you mess up they send you to work at the other stands, guard for the night, or if you really mess up you get put on a bus.”
“What happened to the last guy,” I asked, “the one who went home yesterday?”
Lumpy look around before he responded, “He got robbed too many times.”
“So he got robbed at the stand? Were trees stolen or money?” I asked.
Lumpy shot back, “No heee got robbed too many times.” He got robbed on the way home from work every day this week by the same couple of….black guys.” He whispered the last bit.
I soon found out that this conversation was going nowhere fast. Lumpy was a nice enough guy, but he was not given a lot of responsibility at the stand. He seemed a bit slow and was given pure grunt work. I needed to ask Tony or one of the other guys working the stand on what else to do.
By this time Bill was back from breakfast and was talking to Tony and a few others working there. I inquired about the rest of my responsibilities and received some better feedback.
Our main job of course was selling trees. We were to help any potential customers by answering questions about the trees, showing them trees that matched what they were looking for, and whenever possible upsell them on wreaths and stands we also sold. I asked about the tree varieties we sold and what makes them different, special, or more expensive. I picked up the gig quickly and learned about prepping, selling, packaging, and the delivery process.
Once a sale has been made you pulled off the bottom of the tag with the price and type of tree written on it in sharpie. The top of the tag remained on the tree as a receipt for the customer. You handed the tag bottom and the money to the stand manager so he could keep inventory at the end of the day. Then you had to remove the base with a rap of the hammer or hatchet hammer, shove the tree in the bailing funnel, put a fresh cut on the trunk with a bow saw, and then bail the tree for transport with a plastic mesh.
The competitive advantage of Don’s stands over the many others in the city were the types and freshness of the trees we sold. The locations of our stands allowed us to display the trees like a forest and our ability to get and deliver large trees was a big draw.
We were the only company at the time selling Fraser fir trees as well as the other more common trees I mentioned earlier. At the time Frasers were not available in most of the north east. Most of what were called Fraser firs were actually Canadian Balsam. Don traveled to North Carolina every summer and tagged thousands of Fraser firs, then had them delivered in late November. These trees cost us quite a bit more than the others and were sold at a forty to fifty percent premium. The other trees came from the local farm back in Pennsylvania and were comparatively free. We offered delivery as a free service within Manhattan. Doing a delivery was a great option for the tree man to make extra money. You offered to carry the tree for the customer or arrange for future delivery and then set the tree up for them. You could expect five to twenty bucks depending on the tree. This is usually worth the money to the customer as most don’t want to get tree sap and needles all over their clothes. I was already a filthy mess, so that wasn’t a problem.
The problem was my outfit was chosen to keep me warm for twelve hours or more in sub-freezing weather. My typical garb was a pair of long johns under a t-shirt and jeans, under a sweatshirt covered by a Carhart or ski jacket. I also wore a stocking cap, thermal socks, leather work gloves, and work boots.
On a typical delivery I would likely need to walk five blocks, up five flights of stairs, then spend fifteen minutes setting up the tree. Apartments in many parts of New York at the time were heated by central steam heat and were usually way too hot. By the time of my walk back to the stand from a delivery I was sweating profusely and freezing cold at the same time.
We had trucks for delivery for our bigger trees, this was typically a two man job and the truck guys could clean up in tips. Tips were my way to keep from asking Don for an additional advance for food and drinks, but more on those two topics later.
Selling the trees came easy to me. I found that few New Yorkers knew even less than I did about trees, so they believed anything I told them. I didn’t lie to them to sell the trees, but if they had any questions and I didn’t know the answer I just faked it.
The New York customer, however, was very willing to shop around if they felt they might get the tree for a cheaper price elsewhere. So we often had people tell us that our trees were way too much and that they would just wait till we were packing up to get them at a discount. Many came back when they wanted a fresh high quality tree that wouldn’t die the moment it hit their steam heated, dry as the Sahara, ten-story walk up. We also had many repeat customers from previous years. Most remember the place they got their tree last year and where they got a good or bad one.
There were the yearly bargain hunters that came by every day and commented that we were never going to sell out so we should sell to them at a substantial discount.
“Hey Tree Man, you’re going to get stuck with all of those trees if you don’t lower your prices!” was shouted by every tenth passerby.
“I’ll see you on the twenty first, then we’ll see what your prices will be,” one persistent passer by piped up every day.
He finally came to buy on the twentieth of December and said he was ready to deal. I told him the price and offered to knock off 5 bucks because we talked so many times. He offered me twenty bucks for a fifty five dollar tree which I rejected.
He countered with, “How much is it going to cost you to pack it up, put it on the truck and take it back to bumfuck with you.”
I responded, “Less than reducing all of our prices earlier and earlier each year because our customers know if they wait long enough we’ll give it to them for free.”
“Well what are you going to do with them all if you don’t sell em?” He shot back.
“Bill,” I yelled out to the stand manager “This guy wants to know what we are going to do with all of the trees we don’t sell,”
Bill responded instantly “We will just truck them back to the farm and burn them all. Crackle crackle, crackle”
I then informed him that the tree he thinks we couldn’t sell from yesterday was sold and turned over with fresh cut trees from our farm this morning. So this tree was cut fresh yesterday and brought to him so he could have the best tree possible. I wasn’t lying exactly, because we did get a delivery of new trees in that morning, I just don’t know that the one I tried to sell him was one of them. Lumpy might have known.
I eventually sold him the tree at a ten percent discount. He came back the next year and bought another tree, but this time a week earlier.
My Co-Workers
The job of selling trees was hard work followed by lots of clean up and then boredom. During the work day, early mornings, or late nights there were few people looking to buy a tree. This changed the closer you got to Christmas or on weekends. Most of the day you spent shooting the shit with your crew and watching the people, places, and things you see. You were on the street for more hours than most of the beggars and crack heads.
Here are a few of the types of people I worked and spent time with.
The farmer’s kid who never got out of the county he lived in. These guys went one of two ways, they kept their heads down and worked like animals or they went nuts. The nuts would spend all night getting drunk in the hotel, trying to get hookers, and or buy all of the porn they could find. They weren’t dangerous or troublesome.
The college kid who doesn’t want to get his hands dirty and only wants to work the safe stands. These guys were ok, if a bit too lazy, they were usually good in the high rent districts as they didn’t scare the rich folks.
The older seasonal worker who needs the job for additional money for the holidays. Most of these folks were managers of the stands or temp workers. With a few notable exceptions they were there for the money and worked hard.
People that Don knew from his past that he trusted with big clients. This group was very eclectic and included college professors, truck drivers, and an artist.
Lifers from the nursery that need the extra money and want to get away from the wife and kids. These guys were people like Lumpy, they worked hard but were not very good at solving problems or dealing with the city. The guy who I replaced kept getting mugged for a reason. He showed up to the gig wearing a high school t-shirt, his hunting jacket with the license still attached, and a blaze orange hat. He got mugged because he acted like a tourist and stood out like a blaze orange mark.
Random strangers who might have answered a want-ad or were a friend of a friend who did this last year. This was the wild card group. I knew a few of these guys from high school and they could be ok. Others were complete nightmares. The nightmares had drug habits, looked to buy hot items from the crackheads, and usually spent all of their pay each night at bars, strip clubs, or on the crack.
People like me who ended up there and wanted to make the most of it while dealing with and loving the chaos.
My first week at the stand allowed me to meet and work with several of the types of people I just described. We would spend a lot of time observing the chaos on Broadway at night. There was a constant flow of beggars and crack heads that were hanging around the stand. We were always on the lookout for tree or tool theft, muggings, and people bothering our customers. We eventually built a relationship of sorts with many of the local drug dealers, beggars, and hookers. We occasionally shared a cigarette or shot the shit. Once they knew we would not give them any money or buy any wares from them they backed off. However, every time a new guy arrived to work at the stand he got taken for money or scammed by the same crew of street folks.
The work day at the stand very much depended on where the stand was located and who managed it. The location determined the clientele and the manager determined everything else. I was put on the 110th Street stand for a reason. Dean was and is my best friend and wanted to look out for me. He did this gig for many years before I got involved and this was his stand. Bill the manager was a good guy who wanted the stand to run well. He was chosen because the stand needed a responsible and mature person to deal with the store manager, police, and various city bureaucrats. This location as well as many of the others were won by years or relationship building and could be lost to the competition if any major issues occurred. So the flagship stand was a base of operations on the West side, storage location, and show place for the brand.
The second flagship was on the East side and was a location only someone like Don could have obtained. The stand was in front of the Armory between 66th and 67th and Lexington. This area was extremely wealthy and only a block from Park Avenue. This stand specialized in really large trees, high service levels from the staff, and lots of inventory to choose from. The manager was smart, well organized, and an-Army veteran. His staff were all safe looking college kids and a few grunts that stayed away from the customers. This stand was the money maker and could generate eight thousand dollars a day or more.
The other stands were a mixed bag. There were several stands that were test cases to see if they could generate revenue. These stands became regulars if they made money or were closed if they failed to. Other stands were smaller and leaner because of the layout of the site and required a smaller work force. They could still make a lot of money and were usually retained each year. Overall there were around six stands in the city depending on the year.
I had the opportunity during my first year to float to several stands. At the time I assumed this was because I was such a hard worker, but in reality I discovered that I was sent in by Don to monitor and curtail bad behaviors by the managers or staff.
Don would patrol the stands day and night during the season. Don would enforce cleanliness, customer courtesy, safety, and work ethic issues he saw with an immediate and brutal response. He was notorious for sneaking upon the stands and addressing any issues he saw on whomever was closest to the problem. If the person was the problem then it was even more brutal. Each stand kept a lookout for the Ford F-150 that Don patrolled in.
One morning Don was on such a patrol to the 110th street stand. Thankfully I was pretty busy at the time and not playing catch the hammer with Jerry. I was selling away and then standing up new trees as space opened up. Bill was in the hut keeping warm and watching the money. Jerry and Lumpy were taking turns going to lunch and helping me sell. Don snuck up behind me as I was talking to a customer about a blue spruce. I heard a clicking of ice inside a plastic handled coffee mug as he stood behind me.
Don asked the customer, “So is Timey taking care of you today?”
“Yes he has been very helpful, are these your trees?” the customer asked.
Don said, laying it on thick, “Why yes they are, they were cut down just yesterday from my little farm in Pennsylvania.”
“Timey”, Don said, “Once you are done with this customer come see me in the hut.”
I finished up the sale and met Don and Bill in the hut. He was in the middle of a conversation with Bill while sipping on the coffee mug every few seconds. Bill was arguing mildly with Don about needing another person.
I interjected, “Hello Don, what did you want to see me about?”
Don responded, ”Well fella, I’m going to have you help out a few of our other stands this week before the big weekend coming up. We will have more people coming in on Friday, so you can come back to Billy’s stand.”
I quickly replied, “Ok Don, whatever you want, you’re the boss.”
“Splendid Fella, come to the truck with me and I’ll drive you to Milt’s stand.”
Don and I entered the truck double parked on 110th. He sat down, opened the top of the coffee mug an reached under the seat and pulled out a bottle of Passport scotch, filled the cup to about one half full, filled the rest with diet Coke from a can in the cupholder, and replaced the mug lid. He then lit up a Kool and turned to me.
“Would you like a Menthol fella?” Don asked.
“Sure Don,” I responded. “Why does Milt’s stand need more help?”
“You’ll see Timey,” Don grumbled.
We arrived at Milt’s stand on Columbus Circle. The stand was a quarter the size of the stand I left. Don drove past the stand then double parked a street away. There was one worker visible sitting on the cutting box smoking a cigarette. He was surrounded by a few trees standing on bases, with several laying on the ground, there was a large pile of bound trees leaning against the back of the hut. There was a mess of branches, trunk stubs, and bailing netting around the stand and across the sidewalk way. Don briskly walked over to the stand approaching the lone worker from behind.
Don loudly asked the worker through clenched teeth, “Terry, where is Milt and why the hell are you fucking lollygagging while the stand is a godawful mess?”
Terry stammered, “Milt and Matt is getting a coffee, I was gonna clean up once they got back.”
Don grabbed Terry’s long greasy mullet and pulled it like he was teasing a girl on the playground.
He growled, “Clean it up now, you pissant. Don’t let me see this stand like this again or you’re going to be on the next bus home.”
Terry quickly got up and started sweeping the stand, shook his head, then straightened his hat.
Right around this time two guys I assume are Milt and Matt arrive at the stand. Milt looks like a six foot four beefy redneck version of Rob Zombie wearing full coveralls and a dirty ball cap. Matt is a lanky and greasy looking redneck with a weird limp. There was no coffee to be seen.
Milt looks nervous and twitchy as he approaches, Matt is a bit bleary eyed.
Milt started speaking as he approached the stand, “Hey Don, sorry I was going to the bathroom and calling my wife.”
Don responded, “Milton, this stand looks unacceptable and the sales won’t improve if you’re not here keeping the display looking good. I’m leaving Timey here to help you get the stand set back up and presentable. I’ll be back tonight and things better be up to our standards. Timey, I’ll see you later fella.”
Don walked back to his truck and left me at the stand with Milt, Matt, and Terry.
I walked up to Milt and introduced myself.
“Hi Milt, I’m Timeloose, what do you want me to do to help.”
Milt walked up to me and got in my face. I could smell the strong odor of trees, weed, and something acrid.
Milt softly answered, “I want you to go help Don suck his own dick and get the fuck out of my shit.”
He then laughed loudly showing his tobacco stained teeth. It was not a sane looking laugh.
He then said, “Go get working setup with Terry and we’ll be by to help later.”
I did what Milt asked of me and he and Matt walked back into the tent.
Milt did help us get the stand back into shape and we made quite a few sales after the locals got off of work. Milt and I seemed to be getting along better, he was obviously smoking weed in the tent with Matt who ended up being his brother. I had no issues with this or anything else I saw there that day. I imagine that was Don’s point of dropping me off there. I was in effect a watchdog. Milt had started getting antsy as Don arrived to inspect the stand about eight hours later. I was sent to another stand on the East Side the next day, but Milt and my story was not over.
One could and did get a bit crazy and short tempered after a day of dealing with the constant stress of asshole customers, street people, the long hours, and the sheer noise. Most of the folks working at the stands previously never spent more than a day in a city. The constant flow of people and noises could be overwhelming. Our only refuge was the fine hotel we slept in.
Hotel Living at its Finest or Alternatively Welcome to Hell
Don promise me a very nice hotel.
I walked back to the hotel from my first day on the job at eleven at night. I was working on being up for over thirty hours. I needed to grab some junk food, smokes, and see if I could get a beer from one of the corner bodegas. I was told earlier in the day that no one would ask for ID. Tony and I walked back together as I would be staying in his room this first night. We walked into the Korean grocery and I went right to the beer case. That was the night I discovered the magic of Old English 800. I picked up one forty ounce bottle.
“Time,” Tony said, “You’re going to need another bottle if you want to be able to sleep tonight.”
“What the hell do you mean by that?” I responded. “I’m beat and one bottle should get me a nice buzz going.”
“You’ll see, just get the extra bottle bud.” He replied back.
I quickly answered. “Whatever, it’s my first night in the city so I’ll spurge a bit.”
I walked apprehensively to the counter, I was 19 and not expecting the Korean gentleman at the counter to just ring me up without an ID check.
“You want more forty?” The clerk asked.
“No, two is good,” I responded.
“Tree guys all get lots of forty. Try Crazy Horse like your friend.” The clerk motioned to Tony.
I was now getting a bit worried. Why were are all of the tree guys buying up all of the malt liquor in town.
Tony and I paid for our beer and snacks and walked the rest of the way to the hotel. We arrived at the hotel about 5 minutes later.
The hotel was called the Windermere and was at 666 West End Drive.
Tony turned to me and smiled, “Welcome to Hell, Time.”
The Hotel Windermere was a big old building that appeared to have seen better days. The lobby was shabby and covered in what looked like years of filth and cigarette smoke. Everything seemed to have a coating of a tan scummy film. The lighting didn’t help as there was several half lit yellowed fixtures on the ceiling bathing the lobby in a dim shadowy tint.
As Tony and I approached the front desk a man with a “Habib” name tag grumbled as we approached with bags of beer.
Habib commented with a strong Indian accent as we walked by, “You Tree man need to keep it down, no more complaints this year from my tenants.”
Tony ignored Habib, turned to me and said, “He can go fuck himself, the tenants are louder than we are and half of them are hookers and junkies.”
We approached the lobby elevator and I noted there were twenty-two floors. We got in and Tony told me we were on the sixteenth floor Room 9. All of the rooms nearby were all tree men. Don’s room was on the eighteenth floor, Room 22. We exited the ancient elevator that still had the old operator lever attached with a set of buttons above it. The hallway was as clean as the lobby, but with less lighting and a funk of bad cooking and stale cigarette smoke.
As we approached the room there was a roar of voices and laughter coming from the surrounding rooms. We got to Room 9, Tony got out a key, and opened the door. As the door opened there were about ten people sitting in various states of dress eating takeout food, smoking cigarettes, and drinking forties of malt liquor. All of the windows were wide open with no screens in them.
I asked Tony with concern, “How many of us are in here?”
Tony responded, “Twelve or so, two in each bedroom, and eight in the living room.” Two guys are working guard duty.”
I asked, “Who gets the bedrooms?”
He responded, “Managers and people like me who’ve been doing this for a bunch. Take one of them empty cots.”
I laughed a bit and said, “I’m glad I got the second forty Tony, it’ll be tough sleeping in a room with all these assholes snoring and farting.”
Tony laughed back and said, “Bud, the second or third bottle is so you can ignore the roaches and rats crawling around once the lights go off. Once your shit gets here, keep it closed or you’ll bring some of those cocksuckers back with you.”
As I adjusted to being inside I started noticing the smell of twelve hardworking people in a small space. I also started to realize why the windows were open. It had to be ninety degrees in there. I introduced myself to the drunk and getting drunker roommates. We all shared tales of the city that day. As we all got drunker and more rowdy. We started talking about Don, the stand managers, and some of the more fucked up people in the crew. I came to find out Don drinks all day every day while he is here and never really sleeps. There are rumors of him taking crank or pills to keep himself awake.
As I finished the second forty I realized I had no covers, sleeping bag, or pillow. The others around me started passing out one at a time. I decided to try to do the same. I balled up my coat and used it as a pillow, but as I laid down on the cot a brisk wind blew over me from the open window. I put the coat back on but as soon as the wind stopped it became hot as hell. Thankfully the second forty kicked in fully and I passed out.
I awoke from my drunken slumber every hour or so as I heard a car alarm, squealing brakes on a bus, or someone yelling outside. At some point I looked out the window as the sun was rising and I noticed that the hotel was a big tube, with rooms on the inside of the hall looking at the other side of the hotel. There was a roof above the first floor lobby with a ton of garbage on it.
Dean arrived the next day and met me at the hotel with my stuff. He included a towel, sleeping bag, and clothes. He stayed for the rest of the week as it was getting close to crunch time for the stands. It was good to get a change of clothes and I looked forward to a shower.
I entered the shower after peeling off the ratty cloths I had on. I was worried I might not have any hot water, I was wrong. The faucet seemed to produce live steam even with the cold water on full. After creating a few first degree burns I thought I figured out the right mixture. I quickly hopped in and started hosing off. I found that most of my face, hands and arms were covered with pine pitch that would not come off with the soap and water. After this realization, I discovered that nothing in this world is constant, especially this fucking shower. The raw steam returned and scorched my junk then became ice cold. I was done being thermally shocked and gave up on getting any cleaner.
Each day I would repeat the same ritual of work, fortyies, drunken madness with my co-workers, followed by shock showers. The weekend after Deaner returned we got into our third forty of the night, we were now drinking the Crazy Horse as recommended by the Korean shop owner. The room was littered with empties and takeout containers. Dean thought it would be funny if he tossed an empty from the sixteenth floor. He and I turned the light off trying to keep the locals from suspecting where the bottle came from. He and I looked out the window and down into the black pit of the hotel center. We each grabbed an empty and tossed it towards the center to be sure it didn’t go through someone’s window below.
The bottles sounded like a double barrel shotgun blast that reverberated for way too long. We both pissed ourselves laughing while hiding like children. This became a ritual as well, we limited our fun to one bottle a night. Others heard of our “Forty Bomb” idea and unfortunately it spread and escalated.
A few nights later Dean and I were drinking with another group in their room on the eighteenth floor. Two guys, Brian and Greg, were staying in a much smaller room with another four guys. One of these guys was named Lenny. Lenny was a partier that was drinking himself out of college. Brian, Greg, and Lenny worked at the high end stand on the East Side and were clearing hundreds a day in tips. They were also spending their money as fast as they could make it at strip clubs and bars. Lenny was out at the Dive Bar on Amsterdam this night and every night. Greg and Brian had a few with Lenny then came back to the hotel to drink some forties with Dean and I.
We told them about the forty bomb idea a few days earlier, they started throwing all garbage out the windows on to the roof of the lobby. We were shooting the shit for an hour or so, when we brought up our bomb from last night.
“Hey Brian,” I asked, “Did you hear our Forty Bomb last night? It dropped around two thirty.”
He shot back, “You’re all a bunch of pussies, we perfected the bomb.” “We call ours the airstrike. Three precision bottles, one from each window.”
I was about to ask for more details, but then Lenny came back from the Dive Bar. Lenny was wearing a thick puffy ski jacket and a stocking cap that he violently whipped off as soon as he got inside the room. Lenny was plowed drunk, he stumbled into the living room where we were discussing the bomb and airstrike with Dean, Brian, and Greg. Lenny gathered about six empties from the table and hugged them like they were his long lost mother, arched his back, walked them over to the window, stumbled, then dropped them all at once out into the night. The noise was a tremendous series of shots that seem to last for minutes. It was followed by yells and screams from the rest of the hotel.
Lenny turned to the group and slurred, “Nucleeer Baahms.”
We stopped dropping bombs after the Nucleeer option was executed by Lenny, this is why we can’t have nice things.
Next: Part 3…
This is starting to sound like a remake of Repo Man. When do you meet the Harry Dean Stanton character or is that Don?
You bastard. Part three better be a a big payoff. I’m very invested at this point.
It’s like you guys were carnies.
How many hours a day were you getting paid for?
All of them. Usually 12 to 16 hours
Can’t I just sell trees?
Did you pay the treecutter’s union? It’s different from the lumberjack’s union. Did you pay the treehaulers union? Did you pay the tree installers union? Did you pay the local mafia boss? Did you pay the local cops? Did you pay the local code enforcement agents?
If no, you can’t sell trees in new york.
There is a special exemption in NYC for Christmas tree sales. No other trees can be sold on the street at any time.
Something , something, unrest in the forest and trouble with the trees?
“Something , something, unrest in the forest and trouble with the trees?”
“Now there’s no more oak oppression
For they passed a noble law
And the trees are all kept equal
By Hatchet, Axe, and Saw.”
This is like a Lord of the Flies Christmas Special with drunken adult supervision and a profit motive. Can’t wait for part 3.
I’m also getting a little “Snow Crash” world building happening here vibe.
I have never heard of Snow Crash. The wiki on it sounds interesting. I was never much into sci fi like so many around here.
I loved it. It’s a great & fun ride, but the ending was a tad abrupt. Stands up, despite being a tad old.
All Stephenson novels end that way.
The great thing about Snow Crash is it isnt clear if its a utopia or dystopia.
With Special Guests: Bea Arthur; Art Carney, Jefferson Starship, Diahann Carroll, and Harvey Korman
Diahann Carroll
Too soon!
But, not Harvey?? Sheesh…
I spent one season working on the neighbors Christmas tree farm in high-school, which I really liked. Talk to people, schmooze, exert yourself for 2 minutes cutting down the tree with a bow saw and putting it on the wagon, schmooze some more, bail the tree and put it on their car, get a tip, and repeat. I made sure to be ‘the tree guy’ of whatever family group had cute high-school age daughters. If only life were still so simple…..
Oh shit! You’re supposed to tip the guy who ties the tree to the top of your car?
*walks away sheepishly, whistling*
This is why I am grumpy. I didn’t want the tree in the first place; they make a mess, the cat and dog knock it over, it needs to be watered, they are hard to get rid off. “It’s tradition” says the wife and kids. So I pay $50* for a damned tree and then I’m expected to tip the dude who ties it to the top on the car?
Bah Humbug!
*if I pay that much for a tree, it better well produce a shitload of apples or cherries or walnuts for years to come
You sound like a fake tree guy if there ever was one! But yeah, tips made the job worth doing, I think they paid about $5 an hour which wasn’t bad for a high school kid because it was easy work, but the tips made it WAY better
Do I still have to tip him if he leers lewdly at my lavish* daughters?
*I’m told bitches love alliteration
Only if your daughters seem to be into it. Tell him is conditional on him staying the hell away.
“You sound like a fake tree guy if there ever was one!”
No rather have no tree at all > real tree > fake tree
they are hard to get rid off
Gather as many as you can let them get nice and dry and then have a tree burning party mid summer, some of those tree are better than fireworks when they burst into flames.
Damn! my tree cost me 140. It’s a nice one, though.
$140? Ho LEE Phuc! Did it come pre-decorated? Is it 15 feet tall? Does it give you a hand job every morning?
Life in the big city. They had a bunch for 60-100, but they looked all weak and off kilter. For a few bucks more, mine looks like a picture perfect example. I have a kid, so I try a little bit on Christmas.
Top of the line here is $60, but then they grow like weeds out in the woods (and the woods aren’t far away)
Then again, you’ll not find tacos lengua garnished with pickled carrots and jalapenos from a truck here.
I like to visit L.A., but I couldn’t live there
You’re supposed to tip the guy who ties the tree…?
I made sure to be ‘the tree guy’ of whatever family group had cute high-school age daughters
Giving or getting. The tip’s going some direction.
Brings back memories, and some laughs.
My mom used to have to touch every freaking tree in the lot and have the sales assistant plant it on the ground to shake out its limbs while she judged it.
She was a Fraser fir gal.
My dad volunteered at the Kiwanis Christmas tree lot every year. I remember going one year to pick him up after shift (his car was in the shop), and I saw him casually toss a free trees “away” 3 days before Christmas when the trees were aging.
He tossed them over the fence instead of the compost because there were always a few poor kids hanging around hoping for a few branches to decorate. Dad flung them whole trees. But never the really dead ones; those went to the yard waste/ compost heaps.
OT: So I found a new YT channel I’ve been binge-watching. It’s a scam-baiting channel (where people waste time with scammers with hilarious results). I’m *crying* laughing at some of these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikcHIkwUDvU
I’ve worked some odd jobs, but you win.
Actual headline
“A Bunch Of Influencers And Celebs Spent The Weekend Promoting A Music Festival In Saudi Arabia And People Are Like WTF”
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/influencers-are-calling-other-influencers-out-for-saudi
Like WTF
I want the last three minutes of my life back.
I don’t know about you, but I’m going to get stoned out of my gourd and go see the new Cats movie.
The reviewers agree with you
“If you’re an influencer and you’re promoting tourism to a place [that] openly kills journalists and LGBTQ people as well [as] a list of other horrible and archaic laws and policies: You’re a fucking sellout.”
Journalists are just as oppressed as LGBTQWERTY people, guys.
“influencer” is an actual job description?
“influencer” is an actual job description?
Sadly, yes. Fortunately, some of them are so young and smokin’ hot that you can ignore their idiocy, at least for a short time.
I like this.
We are all “Lumpy” in at least one story someone somewhere is telling.
I’ll go first. Had to take shop class my Freshman year of high school. Teacher was demonstrating to the class how to repair some machine (can’t remember what). “You” points at me. “Go get me a washer.” I went to the bin and pick some up. Confused and in front of the whole class, I say, “Mr X, these washers are all broken.” “Those are called split washers.” You could see his will to live escaping his soul as he said it.
Shop class. The task was to build a wall out of 2×4’s. I’m a math guy, I grew up on a farm, we made our own 2×4’s that were actually 2 inches by 4 inches. I had NO idea that a 2×4 that you bought from the lumber yard was only 1-1/2″ x 3-1/2″
I want a 2×4!
I’ve been Lumpy a few times. My first tax paying job I was told to wash a stack of backing pans and wear the rubber gloves. I didn’t need any gloves that’s for house wives. By the end of my shift my hands were raw and stung for hours. The next day I wore the gloves.
I was being taught how to wash pots and pans in a 3 bay sink in a burger stand when I was 12 or 13. New boss lady asks me and my co-worker of the same age what temp water we should rinse the soap off with. Smarty pants girl says, “hot”. I say, “cold because it saves money on heating water”. #raisedbycheapskates
I actually had an argument about that when I was around 17. I argued that the cold would cause the soap to contract and therefore release better from the dishes. Dumbass adult said “No, because I said so.”
I have to take the dumbass adult’s side on this one.
Well, you could at least give a rationale. I have always been put off by anyone who says “because I said so.”
The soap cleans the dish, the hot water helps loosen the stuff on it.
And yeah, “because I said so” just makes me want to do the exact opposite.
I would still bet the difference between hot and cold when it come to rinsing is so small as to be insignificant.
The cleaning is already done by the time you’re rinsing. There is no point is wasting hot water on that.
Oh I suppose I missread this. If you are just rinsing washed dishes then drying them yeah, cold would work just as well
The hot water heats the dishes so they air dry faster. The hot water (over 140) will sterilize the dishes better as well.
Fourscore’s got it right. I can confirm from years of working in restaurants. Although, often, in a dishwasher the rinse cycle and the sanitizing cycle will be so close together that the temp is just going to be the same as the wash water. In a sink, typically you’re only *required* to have hot water in the washing sink. The rinse sink can be whatever, but you’re also required to soak in a third sink with sterilizing solution, and the amount of time it’s there will tend to produce the same rinsing effect.
Yes, but as you know Bill, if your dishwasher is using cold water to rinse from the wash sink, your sanitize sink will soon be filled with suds. Maybe it is sanitized by the solution but then you pull the pot out through old suds.
Solvents almost always work better when heated rather than chilled.
Yeah, I’m not talking bout washing, just rinsing. I’m pretty sure there’s a slight advantage to rinsing in hot water, but it’s minute at best.
I’m pretty sure it all started because the hot water heater ran out of heated water. I said it really won’t matter and the cold might even be slightly better. In retrospect, hot is probably better, but only ever so slightly. I mean the dishes were rinsed and I doubt an expert could discern a difference.
Which is why you rinse with hot water. Cold water won’t rinse all the soap off. It leaves a film. All these hot rinse deniers need to go try it.
I’m loving this story. Ahh, the misspent adventures of youth. I’ve got plenty of stories, but they aren’t going to see the light of day.
We got a Nordham Fir this year.
I always scroll to see how long a story is before reading. Let out a groan at first, but it’s easy reading. Well done.
#same
Reminds me of some of my early days in “the city”
I’m sorry I haven’t posted more. Lemmy just decided to puke his dinner.
Part3 is almost done and will be on here tomorrow night.
Tee hee. Poor Lemmy.
Thanks for the stories.
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I started writing a submission today about the roots of American conservatism and the prospects of the right (as opposed to the left) possibly being open to libertarian ideas but it feels like too big a topic to fit into one article. The basic premise being that, while Conservative Inc is an authoritarian mess, average-Joe conservative has some Jeffersonian ideals and rejects post-modernism which may be a reason for hope. Unfortunately I know if I try to do a series I’ll never get around to finishing it.
/Kiff sigh
I consider myself to be a Constitutional Conservative. When I see what passes for Conservatism these days, I just scratch my head.
So you hate the children. Got it.
Only the ones that weren’t been murdered before they were born.
Thank you uninformed public for allowing the Corporate Media to define conservatism (nationalistic progressivism) for us. Thats an angle I wasn’t even going to explore……yep, too big a topic.
Minnesota GOP really screwed up in (I think) 2010. They had run on fiscal issues, but as soon as they swept the MN legislature, their first oversee of business was to propose 1) a ban on gay marriage, and 2) a ban on abortive.
Voters defeated both measures and then won back the MN Congress
And let me guess, they did nothing reign in spending?
/Typical Republican routine
Also, the ranking republican chick was caught screwing a GOP operative.
Way to push moral issues, idiots, sluts & knaves.
That’s the year I became a libertarian
idiots, sluts & knaves
Where’s the invite to that party??
They aint called the stupid party for nuthin’.
You and me both brother. I ended up in a shouting match with the Conservative family members the year Dubya pushed the Patriot Act on us. “This law blatantly violates the entire bill of rights! and it absolutely applies to citizens as well as foreign combatants!”
“But you can’t give terrorists due process or they’ll win! It is a war!”
“Then @#$%^&*ing charge them with treason, and shoot them after you get a conviction. And btw start with everyone who voted for this law that makes us a police state”
No kidding. “I support the Constitution, but…”
“Too important” and “F them TW” seems to always win out which may undercut my whole argument.
Wait, You? I ask because I could have sworn that was me.
It was infuriating watching that play out and how many people just swallowed it hook, line and sinker. And of course I was the crazy one. They shit on the bill of rights and then had a fake war (personally I think the cause and effect are reversed in the public’s mind)
Stop arresting people. If they are enemy combatants then fuckin’ shoot ’em and be done with it. Is this a war or some kind of fucked up play-time? Pull your head out of your ass and fight it like it is the war you keep calling it.
#metoo
Ya been there done that. Now most agree with me about PatAct but there is still a lot of support for boot thuggery “because of the children” being spewed. I don’t ever think they will come around on the WOD.
Every time I talk to “conservatives,” It starts off well enough. We agree on this and that, talk up the founders and the bill of rights, etc. They they go into a weird trance like thing about cops, drug laws and wars. I can’t understand the combination of concern for liberty and rights, against the slobbering love for the government officials who are most apt to directly violate all of that. And invading/killing a bunch of people who have no effect on our lives? WTF? What kind of blind spot do you have to build into your thinking to accept shit like that?
Statists gonna state. You see it on both sides of the aisle. I think for a lot of people it comes down to the fact that they want to be able to do the things they like and approve of, and would generally like other people to be able to do those things, and are pretty sure that if they can’t send goons with guns to force people to behave they’ll run amok and get up to all sorts of things they don’t like. Mostly, you’ve got two camps of people who have their own visions of making the world into their own HOA-ruled community, with the details being the only real difference between the two. It’s unusual to find someone who is willing to say that they’re willing to allow for people to do things they don’t want them to do in exchange for people being in control of their own lives.
Most of the conservatives I’ve talked to have some concept of limits on government power and rights of individuals, even the pretty hardline ideologues. They just have all these wacky ideas about law enforcement and militarism, and it’s hard to snap them out of that. I’d imagine they could be brought around to realizing that something like the drug war is doing more harm than good.
On the other hand, I’ve met very few “progressives” who have any notion at all of what the government can’t do (they might recite some of the rhetoric when it comes to gay rights or abortion, but it’s just a means to an end). To them, “rights” are just things you invent when you want to justify more government handouts and power expansion. Actual rights (like those listed in the Constitution) are just nice little extras that they might let you have as long as they’re not getting in the way of “progressive” social policy.
I know that both movements are pretty bad, but if I had to choose one side to run the country and couldn’t choose a third option, I know who I’d choose.
Love these, Time!
For you : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O5ylkq92Xr4
GBV, nice!!! thanks
Thanks Time these are great.
I have worked with those kinds of people before. Miners, timber men, construction. I am too old for that shit now, I have no patience for dumbassery.
I have no patience for dumbassery.
Your participating in this community makes me think otherwise.
Fair point.
This sounds almost exactly like my life between the ages of 12 and 16. I felt like it was a repressed memory or something. Thanks for the cool story. There’s at least one more installment I hope?
Yep, I’m writing it now. Things get dark,lighter, than darker.
Right on. My brother and I actually did Christmas window painting for a couple of years in the seventies. We bought a couple of pounds of pot with the proceeds. We pretended we were going to be dealers, but we smoked and gave away most of it. Made a lot of friends. This was 78-79. I learned how to roll perfect joints with one hand.
I cant grow much in my yard. It is on the top of a sandstone hill. It wont hold water, is very nutrient poor and is alkaline. The only thing that grows here are natives. Thus my muscadines and kumquats go crazy while everything else just dies.
I am gonna have to find someone to give the kumquats to. A bumper crop this year and they are very good.
https://postimg.cc/v1PBz3MF
https://postimg.cc/v1PBz3MF
I have already made some wine, some bbq sauce and some marmalade and the bushes are so loaded you cant even tell I have picked them.
I remember sitting on the fence at a friends house at a young age and eating kumquats off the tree. I got sick as a dog I ate so many.
If they are juicy and sweet it isn’t hard to do.
If I can brag on myself, I have to say the bbq sauce is most excellent on grilled chicken. It makes a very tasty sweet orangy glaze.
I bet it’s superb.
My limited kumquat exposure makes me think they’d make an excellent sauce for poultry or even pork.
Make an extra batch of that sauce, and I’d buy a bottle or two.
#metoo
The Packers seem to be playing with slippery balls tonight.
I am not watching. What quarter is it? The sloppy second?
As of half time, my Vikings are ahead 10-9 over the Puckers. But I can’t watch it, because I gave up cable.
I am fairly certain they will find a way to lose (nods toward Cleveland Browns fans)
Yet…(there is hope)
I watch it on the Yahoo sports app on my phone.
There is a sweet app called “Pri Rafio” , icon showing a white football helmet against a green field. You can live stream audio of all games. Probably not legal, but I love it.
Great for car trips.
You can choose local “home” coverage, away coverage, or national.
And the Vikings fuck it up again. 3 minutes to go in the 4th quarter. 23 to 10 Puckers.
I’m out. Goodnight friends.
Well at least they are in the playoffs so they could lose in the SB…..again. Go Pack!
Jeremy Roenick has been suspended indefinitely without pay for these two jokes:
What the hell? How is that anyone else’s business?
“Well, thanks for sharing dude, but the less I know about other people’s sex lives the happier I am. ” is the only response that should have gotten.
The NHL is getting really woke.
I actually listened to that podcast and it didn’t even register.
I must be a shitlord.
Ugh it’s all serious tones and “we need to have conversation” lately.
No. Just stop it.
The first does seem really inappropriate. The second made me laugh.
I had to check. I wouldn’t say no either.
Patrick Sharp has a reputation of being handsome. And it’s deserved. He’s also a married (to a woman) man with children. Who could possibly find this joke “problematic”?
It’s not, and frankly, under the right circumstances – like if she was in on the joke – the first one isn’t either. But it “establishes a pattern” or some bullshit that the media wants to use to punish him harder.
Yeah, that’s just funny – Patrick is a pretty man.
Kathryn in a super-solid would, but you probably shouldn’t talk about your hot coworkers in the record like that.
I’m having a good time reading your stuff. A flyover rube from the woods would have had a tough time in your scenario, not because of the work but dealing with your nasty assed associates, hearing the New York accent, totally foreign to us. Truly would have been a learning experience for a kid from the sticks.
I cut Christmas trees one year, couldn’t get paid ’til the boss delivered them and got his money.
Now I’m waiting for end of the story, hope it has a happy Christmas Eve ending and you get a big bonus
It was an adjustment. Most of my coworkers were good folks. The exceptions were very exceptional.
The Vikings are dealing some defense.
But Mason Crosby is keeping the pack in the game, dammit!!
Neither team looks like it wants to win.
So are the Packers.
We got a grand fir this year. Never heard of them before, but they have a wonderful smell.
And the needles are relatively soft. Great Xmas tree, will get again.
Sweet! Never heard of them.
Soft needles is nice. I love the look of a blue spruce but ya gotta wear welding gloves to decorate.
They also drop needles like mad. They are still my favorite however.
That is my favorite tree and my most memorable christmas tree story involves a colorado blue spruce. It relates to my idiotically sharing way too much drunken blatherings the other night. The first christmas the girl I got off the sailboat for and I spent together we bought a blue spruce. $60 was the cost in Palm Beach in 1990 (89?) which is more than we could afford. We were broke and I wanted to propose so I made an engagement ring out of an ornament hanger, super glue and a tiny baby pine cone off the tree. She kept it in a ring box for years.
Awww. That’s great
Is it lame of me that I trot out the same old two foot tall fiber optic tree and forget to light it up more often than not?
Disclaimer: this really is my least favorite time of the year.
I went synthetic and I never went back. I do treat her well, though, in preparation for the synthetic tree uprising.
Douglas, Noble, and Grand firs are the three main Christmas tree species around here. Nobles are my favorite.
Tree farm and lot just the down the road didn’t open this year. Owners aged out and now the end of tradition. We got a live blue spruce this year and put it on the back deck with lights.
Xmas music
https://youtu.be/n9kfdEyV3RQ
And Xmas music for those living in the future
https://youtu.be/jVrXnu8-G3Y
I feel like buying a train ticket.
This is great stuff. Seriously, if I’m being honest, in my heart of hearts this is how I imagine NYC is all the time, for everyone. Like you basically get there somehow, probably out of a train or something, and then you’re immediately mugged like seven times, a hooker dies in front of you, and all the while you’re being jostled by a combination of pale troglodytes with massive vitamin D deficiencies (since the sun never actually shines) and very busy people in suits with briefcases and cell phones, all of whom are swearing and sound like people from The Sopranos. I imagine something like Mordor, but with higher buildings and more noise. Logically, I understand this isn’t the case, but I can’t shake it.
LOL when I moved here I arrived on a train and carried some heavy luggage onto the subway. First thing I saw on the subway was a legless dude panhandling on a dolly, rolling down the car. Sadly, I’ve never been mugged in 20+ years or seen any dead hookers but I’ll never forget that guy on the dolly or the many mostly benign misadventures that followed in the next few years of what was left of my youth.
The thing is I know a bunch of people who live or have lived there, I’ve got friends who go up for weekends to hang out, and I still have this certainty that I’d go there and immediately be shot by someone for like smoking a cigarette, or I’d be mugged repeatedly, or kind of every bad thing that can happen in a city would happen all at once. I kind of assume all of the city is a combination of southwest Baltimore and the public housing around me, which, of course, is ironic as hell considering I’ve had friends carjacked blocks away from my house.
I’m pretty sure no place in Manhattan is nearly as dangerous as much (?) of Baltimore.
Or 1980’s south central L.A. ( now, it’s no big deal, mostly)
Yeah, when I think about it, I lived and hung out in shitty parts of Baltimore and DC for a lot of my youth. I distinctly remember going out to San Diego in 1997 and being warned by some locals about the “bad” parts of Escondido, where a friend lived. I was absolutely stunned. I felt like I could’ve lain down in the middle of the street with my wallet on my chest and taken a nap without a problem. My dad, who was a PG county deputy (the part of Maryland right next to the really shitty part of DC in those days) came out to visit and was gobsmacked at what people considered a “bad” neighborhood.
I feel that way about my adopted hometown of Boston – it’s ridiculously safe. You really have to go it of your way to find a truly unsafe area.
The violent crime rate is 4x higher in Baltimore.
You’ve watched “The Out of Towners” too many times.
Great flic.
When I was there, there was a guy near Times Square who sat indian style on the sidewalk, sorting an immense collection of buttons. He was there the whole 10 days I was. Walked past him a million times. I wondered how he kept it all together like that, on the sidewalk, with the masses of people passing him. On the ninth day, as I passed him, He leapt to his feet and started screaming at me that I had kicked one of his buttons. He had a few million. I was taken aback that he would even notice one of them getting moved slightly by my foot. How did he not get button hit by feet every few minutes? Why was mine so offensive? Fucking weird. I just said sorry and stared him back down.
It’s not the orcs that scare me. It’s the politicians.
Difference?
The orcs at least won’t lie about liking that meat’s back on the menu, boys.
Unlike AoC.
I would happily put meat on AOC’s menu. It would keep her from talking.
Meh, even sliding back under DiBlasio, NYC isn’t quite so… colorful these days.
I’m OK with that. Or at least with the 90% reduction in violent crime that came along with the reduction in “color”.
Indeed, everyone who pines away for how “Times Square used to be so _real_” should go fuck themselves. It was a dangerous, dirty shithole.
But can you find a transexual midget hooker in Times Square 2019?
There’s an app for that.
I agree the danger is gone in Manhattan. 19 year old me misses the danger and excitement, but 47 year old me understands hoe it’s better in many ways now.
My few NY experiences include a couple connections through JFK, one through Laguardia which is no shit the worst airport on the planet and driving through on my short lived truck driving career. First time I drove in NYC was an 18 wheeler across the George Washington bridge. No need to go that way to get to our destination but my trainer was a moron.
Sorry for being OT, but the new computer lives. I found a place that was selling an AM4 processor for $40, with no restock fee on returns. On the plus side, I also received a code for a new game. The minus being it’s either Borderlands 3 or the Outer Worlds on the Epic Game Store. Outer Worlds is slowly installing now.
Oof, that just killed the Vikes, I think.
I am so conflicted. I’ve got a prop bet on Cousins throwing more yards than Rogers, but I’m taking the points on the spread.
“Holy Shit–I’m gonna get Milt!”
The pic you used for reference, Timey? I see it…
That was the intention. I know we like in jokes here. The real Milt was a real piece of work. He was big goon of a dude.
That line was one of the first I learned from the movie, so, it has a special place in my non-existent heart.
Kudos, good dude.
I neglect to post earlier:
This is an excellent series that I am greatly enjoying.
Great job!
Yes me too, despite my aversion to Christmas trees.
Me too! Glibs keeps on giving the gift of stories long after the wrapping paper has been put away for the year.
Thanks,
Thanks for the great story Time. It reminds me of some of the odd jobs and odder people I’ve worked with in the past. Looking forward to the next installment!
Packers beat the Viqueens to win the division, got a porterhouse waiting for me for Christmas day. I’m starting to like this unemployment thing.
Porterhouse?
Heh, heh. Buffed with a fine chamois, chop, chop.
“I didn’t want to do it – I felt I owed it to them.”
I see that DiBlastoma is at it again…
Impressively petty.
You know, I have an Emperor’s robe my wife made. I bet he looks more ‘at home’ in one, though. And, has a professionally made copy, to boot.
How does state law supersede federal in this case? I mean, I’m against judges being officiants (since to me nothing done out of the church is official when it comes to marriage) but how can a state deny a seated judge of doing something people who payed $12 over the internet are allowed to do?
I suppose, since there is no ‘Federal marriage license’; only states’ licenses.
Frankly, I would actually probably chip in to see these DTJ appointees get ordained, and perform them that way, just to flip off whatshisface…
/Yeah, I realize it’s LePetomane, and not cancer-boy….fuck ’em both.
But how can a federal judge not be recognized by the state as a judge? I mean, if that’s the way it worked in other judge duties, I’d be super cool with that; but this seems to be a one off stripping of power, where I said states are forced to recognize officiants who just paid money to do the same thing. It just seems inconsistent to me, but most government does.
They (Fed judges) probably don’t have access to the licenses, and there may be something codified that states it must be a state judge in good standingthat can sign, or somesuch…
That’s my guess.
Because the US Constitution did not confer the authority to choose marriage officiants to the federal government. There is no federal jurisdiction.
Yeah–what Chafed said.
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I’m against judges being officiants (since to me nothing done out of the church is official when it comes to marriage)
Seems to me that pulling a civil marriage license is already conceding a state role in the formalizing. Just go with the suitable from framing Pope Commie marriage certificate.
I’m having trouble parsing this, can you translate it to Ferengi?
I couldn’t remember Francis’ name.
Frame papal blessings prominently displayed seemed to be the big thing when I was a kid. I don’t remember seeing those today like they used to be. Most were John VI, but a few were JPII
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Apostolic_Blessing_Parchment_1965_July_10_Pope_Paul_VI_to_Verino_and_Rina_Giovannucci_and_Family_%28DSC_2569%29.jpg/220px-Apostolic_Blessing_Parchment_1965_July_10_Pope_Paul_VI_to_Verino_and_Rina_Giovannucci_and_Family_%28DSC_2569%29.jpg
The modern ones seem have dropped the pope flashing his gang sign, er finger blessing.
I’ve officiated 2 weddings, never paid any money for a certificate, and no one has ever asked me for any credentials. To my credit though, both marriages are still intact, so I must have done a good job.
That’s taking TDS to a new level. Maybe he should demand all judges appointed by Trump release their taxes too.
Looks veto-proof or am I missing something? Anyway:
Christ, what an asshole.
You’re right. But when is the last time the NY state legislature passed legislation because it made sense?
So, Lynch back with Seattle.
Is there any position that ages out faster than running back?
Statically, no, but Marshon has defied most of the amalgamated stats.
When was the last time he played? Several years of hanging out, smoking weed doesn’t seem like great game prep, but we’ll see.
I’m not saying it’s a good idea (If I remember right, he was with the Raiders in 2017, so about two years off), but his second chance with Seattle, he was already statistically outside of performing the way he did. But, it’s worth a flyer, not like Washington bringing on Peterson to be THE GUY after he hit 30. Seattle is banged up, at the most they need 5 games out of him. It’s a long shot, but they don’t have anything better.
I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, just that it’s probably not going to make a huge impact.
Some people are trumpeting the news as if it’s a fix for all is Seattle’s injuries, as opposed to a desperate move
A 33 year old running back who hasn’t played in 2 years (and had declining production then) isn’t going to pick the team up and carry them to the super bowl.
Nice! I look forward to seeing him get stopped by the Niners. They opened up as -2.5 and are now -3. I think I’m gonna place a bet there before that line jumps another point or two. They have not won in Seattle since 2011, but I think they break that streak on Sunday nite. Should be a good game.
I wish I had your confidence in their ability to win in Seattle.
I think they would have won last time if Gould was kicking (although yes, he has not been as solid this year as the past). I think it’s gonna be close, and may be another 3 point game, but I think the Niners have this one. The season has been a tremendous one for them, and they have delivered some entertaining games, so I expect nothing less from this one.
I’ll be rooting for Seattle, because if GB and Seattle win, GB takes the #1 seed.
I was stunned to learn that Frank Gore was still playing, and is now #3 all time in yardage.
Holy fuck, he is.And Peterson is 5. Knee surgery has done wonders for them, and fucked over some of the older guys on the list.
Imagine if Billy Sims had the techniques that had today.
Forget about Sims, Gayle Sayers would own every record imaginable if knee surgery had been as good then as it is today. Sims was good, but Sayers was on another level.
Imagine if Sanders had played for not-Detroit.
Merry Christmas Eve, or Eve eve depending on where you are. Congrats, Green Bay. Didn’t expect much from the Vikes this year, but still… getting swept sucks. And SP, I sent you the submission. If it gets lost in the shuffle, I can send it again. And the Packers still suck at 12-4. I don’t care.
12-3. You fucking traitor.
In more ways than just football.
I knew you transmitted the plans to John Titor for Pearl Harbor!
Tokyo Rose confirmed.
Their O Line is definitely suspect and can’t handle a bull rush. Their defense has been pretty good at bending and not breaking. As mush as they are my team I don’t see them in the Super Bowl this season.
I’m more worried about how Rodgers misses so many passes and open reads.
Alright….gonna try something new(er) for the holidays…
Hey–it worked!
Happy Festivus to the new avitar.
He/It was gonna air some grievances around here, but, I convinced him otherwise.
Ma…newer?
Well, I had just taken on the Sir Digby Scratchit a caouple of days ago…give or take.
And, since you asked, I’ve been holding on to that pic for a couple of weeks, wondering when I would use it. His Festivus stuff makes it timely enough for me.
Ha!
本音建前 Honne Tatemae. Public face and private feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSvlMazQ5bA
Whats that have to do with christmas?
Bastard.
Favorite Sanrio character is Retsuko?
I’ve been to Sanrio Puroland. It’s like freebasing sugarcane.
I think you or another review warned off visiting Puroland.
The height of Sports.
I predict a lot of athletes with burned feet.
And, splinters.
Also also: Homer
Great writing, Timeloose. Looking forward to the next part.
I’m going to a buddy’s house for an early Christmas dinner tomorrow and there’s a 50/50 chance he and his girlfriend break up at some point during dinner.
Good times.
Oh, Lordy! Please do report back to let us know how it goes.
Wait…you’re in Alaska, right? it’s not as if y’all have a lot of women to spare up there. Things must be pretty bad if he’s dumping her.
Or is she dumping him?
Ooh…given the locale, and your observation, that does sound more plausible.
/Alaska: Where the State bird is the delinquent child support check
#ThisBirdHasFlown
The state bird is the mosquito. I used to live in the bush and outsiders would ask how I dealt with winter and its like, damn, winter is great because theres no goddamn bugs out. Changing my oil at -30 was better than 50 when getting chewed up by bugs.
I’m not a fan of her, but it’s not my problem. And she’s a goddamn Bammer, too.
I’m not a fan of her, but it’s not my problem. And she’s a goddamn Bammer, too.
You can say that again.
If this has odds like that of happening, are you there for ‘protection’ (no going crazy in front of company)?
If not that, moral support?
He’s making a prime rib, so that’s all I need to show up.
I hope, for your sake, that he’s a helluva cook.
As long as the drama to food ratio is in my favor, I’m good.
That’s some excellent resolve. Enjoy the PR.
I’m bringing my famous mashed potatoes to earn my keep. Garlic, sour cream and a bit of chicken stock do wonders.
I’m looking forward to joining them.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/population-growth-california-1900-levels-exodus/
Come on out and get blind, bud!
I’m considering it. I hear there is a guy near Dallas who loves WASP. It could work.
Well, you’re in luck. Because, if there’s one thing the Metroplex needs, it’s attorneys!
/I keed. Then again, that WASP fan likes RATT, so….
Fuck it.
https://youtu.be/RG69PMDBfaE
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My auntie lives there and I’m trying to get her to sell her place and move some place cheaper but 40 years of social networks are hard to break.
So true. If she does, then nearly anywhere else is cheaper.
Often? The only western states without incomes taxes are WA, NV, & WY. CA residents aren’t limiting their migration to only those states.
Well, we kinda sneak in on the ‘western’ thing, and, no SIT.
Fair enough. Maybe if they had just put other western states where the tax burden is lower, and left it at that. I doubt you could find, outside of maybe some complex speciality tax treatment, where the tax burden is higher in those states than California.
Well thanks y’all for all the positive feedback. I just sent part 3 to be edited and it will post tomorrow the same time.
This story is tits.
I’d like a story about tits.
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This the president’s personal lawyer.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/giuliani-on-his-former-office-investigating-him-theyre-absolutely-assholes
/facepalm
For my rock-and-roll chaver. Happy Chanukah.
That was Goy-rific!
You flatlanders are alright.
https://youtu.be/F7_LRSjU50Q
Almost linked that last week.
Last week wasn’t Chanukah.
No, but I did include the Anvil video. This was a contender at that point.
Yes you did. You’re a good soul.
You’re too kind, my man. I won’t claim it myself, but, I thank you for the attribution.
Sir Diggs, you are just bouncing off the walls here tonight! Posting here and there and everywhere.
Are you on coffee or meth???
Really…? I don’t feel like I am.
Wait–where else did I post? I’m rather lost…. 🙁
Well, just many quick comments and interactions is all.
Carry on.
As you were.
As I was may be a bit difficult to attain, at this point…
::ahem::
Oh, did something come up?
Up. Out. It gets rather messy trying to keep track of directions, and all that…
OK–I now know why Baron Rand has a grievance with me
You could try wearing a kilt.
They allow freedom for anatomical changes, plus provide easy access to…junk
::furiously takes notes::
Go on…
Also, it’s actually both. I call it “moffee”…
I want eggnog tomorrow morning! With fresh ground nutmeg on top…
Heheheheh–“meg”
Wait….
Tom & Jerry for me. But I haven’t seen the batter this year.
I don’t know if it makes it down that far, but this stuff is amazing. Not cheap, but worth it.
Good morning all and a Happy Christmas Eve to y’all as well.
Timey, these tales have been most excellent; I’m looking forward to the 3rd installment.
Stuck here in NYC (thanks, new store manager) while wifey and kids are down in Florida. Today is daughter’s 9th birthday and the very 1st one I’ve missed and it makes me feel like an asshole. It’s 6am, I’m on my 3rd rye, and I’m prepping a prime rib for later, while knoshing on last night’s cold pizza. If I get really motivated, I might schlepp down to the supermarket and rent a Rug Doctor that I may get Steaming Mad At Dirt™.
Do you get to join them in FLA soon???
No, they’re coming back on Sunday. I do get a lot of housework done without the kids constantly creating new messes in spaces I’ve just cleaned though; I’ll look on the bright side. Also, I get to eat an entire prime rib by myself.
Have you tried Alton Brown’s ‘nog? We omit the half-&-half and increase the heavy cream, and sub Madeira for the Cognac, also increase Bourbon in proportion to a decrease in rum. It’s really good but you need a great deal of lead time..
Prime rib is making the rounds! Sorry about the separation for you, but, you are no asshole for working for your family’s sake.
Also, happy birthday to 9 yo spawn!
Thanks. I’m more cross because it was planned trip that was canceled by a newly arrived manager who sees my presence as essential. Apparently, nobody puts the cat/dog food and cleaning supplies on the shelves as well as I do; so, more than 2 consecutive days off for me gives the boss agita.
Prime rib, oh how i love thee. It’s on sale at the grocer for $3.99 per lb. so we’ve filled the chest freezer with them. 13 minutes per lb. in the Ronco Rotisserie for pure perfection. Paired with my foolproof Bearnaise, it’s Heaven.
I have the Instapot Vortex oven, and it does rotisserie, but has no guide or recipes…I’m wondering how it would handle a prime rib…
(a boneless turkey breast was hit or miss via wife’s cooking with it)
The Ronco oven is so amazingly, absolutely, fool-proof for prime rib that we were gonna give one to the in-laws this Christmas. Ron Popeil sold Ronco for an incredible sum a number of years ago. New owners ran it into the ground, sold it, current owners are doing even worse. They no longer make the rotisserie oven. Remaining examples are now selling for hundreds of dollars on Amazon.
Interesting
So the boss…
::puts on sunglasses::
Hava agita?
/YYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
Wait a sec… got the place to yourself and no contention for the liquor or good? Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Also… left home alone in NY while the rest of the family takes off for vacation… I think I’ve seen that movie.
I’ve got a handle of Wild Turkey 101, a fifth of (ri)1, and 2 each Bourbon County Stout, Bourbon County Stout Mon Cheri, and 120-Minute IPA, some 510 cartridges, a wee bit of Durban Poison in flower form, and a couple of these (that are finally arriving on the NY market). I think I can endeavor to persevere.
Culkin… That kid has totally won me over with his appearances on the Red Letter Media stuff.
Sounds like your boss doesn’t know how to be a manager. Sure you get some employees who are really good and some who are just terribly inefficient space heaters, but punishing the capable employees because you don’t want to deal with the inconvenience of not having them for a short while invariably ends up with you not having them around at all, and drives down the average competence level of the staff.
We’re preppin’ to head out to St. Louis for the (happy) mayhem that is a Christmas with my in-laws, so please allow me to take this opportunity to wish any of you who are currently lurking a very Happy Hanukkah, Merry Christmas, Festive Festivus, or whatever you choose to celebrate.
Wait – there’s a holiday coming up?
Remember that day off you have (I hope!) tomorrow? Not just an excuse for the Federal Reserve to close in the middle of the week.
…and time to pack the laptop, so I’m out. Be safe & well, all!