Author: Chafed

  • GlibFit 4.0 – WTF is Chrononutrition?

    Since Thanksgiving there have been two strains of comments among the commentariat that read the GlibFit articles.  First, those of you who in some way, shape, or form, write something related to the article to help your fellow Glibertarian.  Second, the few who think trying to exercise and/or eat right between Thanksgiving and New Years Day is a fool’s errand.

    As part of the discussion, one of you offered up chrononutrition.  I’ve looked back through the comments and tried doing some searches on the site to find who to credit but my web skills are poor.  Whoever posted this article, thank you.

    I’m no scientician but I found the ideas in the article intriguing.  The author was obviously aware of the Glibertarian audience for his work.  He kindly gave us a TL; DR version:

    • Circadian biology plays a fundamental role in human health.
    • Research has shown that nutrient ingestion can impact our “body clocks” in peripheral tissues around the body, suggesting that when we eat our meals can have implications for health via influencing circadian rhythms.
    • In addition, it has been hypothesized that having a restricted feeding window (time-restricted feeding) can have beneficial impacts on body composition and health, likely via circadian effects at least in some part.
    • A related hypothesis suggests that the distribution of calories over the day (majority eaten early vs. late) can also have health impacts.
    • My personal interpretation of the current literature available leads me to tentatively conclude that, in general, the following heuristics would be beneficial for many people to follow: 1) avoid eating during biological night, 2) avoid meals, particularly those high in fat and/or carbohydrates, close to DLMO (or say, at least ~2-3 hours pre-sleep), 3) bias more calories to earlier in the day (i.e. don’t eat a high proportion of your daily calories in the late evening), 4) have consistent meal times and meal frequency from day-to-day, 5) have some restricted feeding window (start with <12 hours per day, but no ideal is yet known), 6) get daylight exposure early in the day and avoid artificial light (blue and green wavelengths of light specifically) as much as is pragmatically reasonable at night.
    • There are several caveats and exceptions to the above heuristics. Implications may be different for athletes, for those trying to gain weight, for those who such heuristics undermine adherence to nutrition fundamentals, and in situations where social interactions and fun should be prioritized.

    I’m going to give this a try.  I’ll probably need to eat a bigger breakfast and lunch.  Adding a more substantial afternoon snack should make it easier to eat a smaller dinner.  Eating more than two hours, much less three, before going to sleep is going to be a challenge.  I tend to have long workdays.  I’ll need to work this one out.  Though I will say all the late-night banter makes it easier even if it does deprive me of the sleep I need (I’m looking at you Sir Digby, CPRM, Festus, and Straffinrun.)

    Let us know in the comments if you have used these ideas and how they worked (or didn’t) for you.  I’m curious to know if anyone with experience finds this sustainable (or not).  I don’t mean perfectly abiding by this program at all times.  I do mean making this a regular routine subject to life’s occasional disruptions.

    Another angle I’m curious about is anyone who has done this and exercised at night.  This is a possible exception as noted by the author.  I’m reading David Goggins’ book in part to motivate me to up my fitness game.  I strongly suspect this is going to mean, for me, continuing with lifting in the morning and adding HIIT and ab work in the evening after work. I can’t tell if that’s compatible with the author’s suggestions.

     

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Strength and Self-Defense

    Remember the old Charles Atlas ad that ran in comic books?  I do.  When I was a kid, I was sure that if you were a big enough guy you wouldn’t have to worry about anyone picking on you.  That may be largely true, but it overlooked all sorts of other things.  I spent the first six years of my legal career practicing criminal defense.  I was exposed to nearly every kind of deprivation one person could inflict on another person.  Between that and my full-blown libertarianism, there was no doubt I would become a gun owner.

    Fast forward umpteen years, I’m married, own a home and have two kids.  One night in our low crime suburb, we accidentally left the garage door open overnight.  Wifey’s car was burglarized.  No one entered our house, but she was badly shaken up.  She called the police to report the incident.  I was at work when she did this.  I came home to be told we had to get a dog for protection.

    This didn’t compute for me.  I knew she wasn’t talking about getting a trained attack dog especially with two young children in the house.  No, it wasn’t that.  The cop she spoke to told her to get a dog for protection.  I laughed and told her if we were going to do anything it was get a shotgun. No, she replied, the cop said to get a dog.

    I met wifey when we were both working as public defenders.  I can’t adequately describe the mutual skepticism we shared about cops.  Their truthfulness, training, “expertise,” note taking, record keeping, interview skills, and on and on.  There wasn’t anything we didn’t criticize.  Despite all this, she was insistent we had to get a dog.  I was insistent we had to get a gun.  So, in the best Glibertarian tradition we did both.

    I bought a Mossberg 590.  I love that gun.  Wifey and I both got trained by a private instructor.  I definitely caught the gun bug.  Wifey not as much.  I started looking at pistols.  Life intervened in the form of all sorts of stuff with our kids (good lord those ankle biters take a lot of time) and Moe; my best fried for the last nine years.

    Nine years later, one kid is off to college, the other is a teenager, and Moe is a grumpy old man.  I finally have a glimmer of getting a little bit of time for myself.  I’ve engaged in idle talk about finally buying a pistol.  Wifey called my bluff.  For our last anniversary she told me to go buy a pistol.  I told her California requires a written test and I’m not buying a gun without having some idea how to safely handle it.  For my birthday she bought me a basic handgun class which includes California’s ridiculous written test.

    Yesterday I attended the class.  It was taught by two active duty cops.  One of them aspires to having Clancy Wiggum’s physique.  The other is futilely trying to stave it off.  They better be good with a gun because there is no way these guys could engage in anything physical for more than a minute without being completely winded.

    The class was a mix of very useful safety information, completely irrelevant cop stories, and firing a Glock 17 under supervision.  We constantly joke about cops believing the most important thing is they go home at the end of their shift.  This mentality was confirmed during the class.

    Now that I’ve banged on these guys enough, the safe handling and shooting instruction made it all worth it.  I finished the class understanding how to safely handle a pistol.  The live fire instruction was very helpful.  I only fired twenty rounds.  The instruction and feedback on how to properly hold the pistol, aim, and pull the trigger greatly improved my shooting in a short time.  Now, I have to buy a pistol and go practice.

    I’m strongly considering a Sig Sauer P226 or P229.  My only concern is these aren’t striker type pistols so I’m wondering if this means I’ll be pulling shots due to the action.  I’d love some feedback from handgun owning Glibs.

     

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Man down!

    This week was off to a good start. I’m repeating month 3 of AX1 and I’ve been pushing myself. Somewhere in the back of my head has been David Goggins 40% Rule. I think I first heard of him a year or two ago. He has an impressive and inspiring story. He’s also one tough son of a bitch and is crystal clear anyone can be the same. I’m not sure I’m ever going to be that tough, but he made me realize there is a significant gap between what I’m doing and what I can do. He’s got a book and website if you’re interested.

    I celebrated my birthday last week and birthdays always get me contemplating where I am, where I’ve been, and where I’m going. There are usually mixed emotions. I’m pretty critical of myself but make it a point to focus on accomplishments as well. Looking at only one side of the ledger is a sure way to have a ridiculously skewed view of yourself.

    With Goggins’ words in my head, on leg day I went for it. I hit a personal best for squats, and I did it as part of doing supersets that simply kick my ass. I finished my leg work out walking gingerly and feeling proud.

    The next day my mid-50s year old body had a surprise for me. It wasn’t my legs. Sure, I got up and felt yesterday’s workout. Candidly, I was feeling really good about myself for getting it done. I was sore but still got my conditioning workout done. Then it was time to shower before work.

    I don’t know what I did but I screwed up my left shoulder in the shower. My best guess is I overextended it while washing my back. So much for Friday’s workout. Yes, I know this has become euphemism central. Have at it in the comments.

    F***ing thing keeps reminding me it’s there when I move in certain ways. I’m sure nothing is torn, it’s probably just a strain, but hot damn this thing hurts. I’m just going to assume it’ll be okay by Monday and get back to it.

    Enjoy your football and snark today. Have a great week and get to it.

  • GlibFit 4.0 – A Rant

    I am not a happy camper.  I planned on taking most of Thanksgiving week off and then getting back to it this week.  We went to New York for Thanksgiving and I never quite adjusted to the time change when we there and when we first returned.  Between that and a bunch of late night activities, I came back tired.

    This week was just lousy.  I worked out some but missed a few days and I am pissed at myself.  Maybe my crappy mood made me notice the crappy music in the gym.  I swear there is some unspoken assumption that gym music just has to be the worst.

    I don’t even recognize most of what gets played.  Thanks to my daughters I did recognize a Jonas Brothers song and something by Billie Eilish.  JFC.  I’m supposed to workout to that?  I don’t know if I heard the song but a voiceover in the gym told me they played something by Shawn Mendes.  Also thanks to my daughters, I know his music is terrible.

    The last time I regularly heard good music in the gym was when I was an undergraduate.  The late, lamented WBCN was what that gym played.  Their motto was something like “three hundred sixty degrees of rock n roll.”  That sure as hell worked for me.

    ​​When I’m working out, particularly when I’m lifting, I want music that makes me feel like I can ram my head through concrete.  If it can’t do that then at least make me feel like I want to involuntarily bang my head.

    It’s pretty common.  Some of it was commercially popular. You can find more great put-your-head-through-the-wall-music on the same album.  The last one takes a moment to warm up but then it kicks ass.  Sometimes you want something that just moves you from moment one.  Something that starts fast and keeps on going. Maybe you want something from Texas.

    When I lose myself in a workout, I can get contemplative.  There’s great music about the afterlife, politics, the drug war, or more on the drug war.  Sure, the last one has a weird interlude but that’s the time to rest between sets.  

    If I need some inspiration to workout there’s music that reminds me of my mortality or why I started in the first place.  Remembering the video doesn’t hurt either.

    When I’m done working out, I’m typically famished.  I’ve got to eat. There’s music for that too.

    I’m just unconvinced gyms have to play crappy music that’s as likely to put you to sleep as it is to make you wretch.  Maybe you IP lawyer Glibs know something about the licensing aspect of this that will clear up my confusion.  Let me know in the comments.

    In short, fuck shitty gym music.  Play something hard and fast

    I’ll be up before 5 AM today driving to daughter 2’s volleyball tournament so I’m not sure how available I’ll be to comment. Since I may not be around, I’ve got three things to say here. Mojeaux can thank me later, that loud sploosh you heard came from MikeS, and yes I made a Texas music reference without it being a Digby-roll.

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Time To Report In

    This one is going to be short but sweet because I’m writing this from the road while returning from celebrating wifey’s 50th birthday.  Presumably, you’ve all sobered up from Thanksgiving. It’s time to report in on your progress over the last four weeks.

    I had two “tests” this past week.  Athleanx’s AX1 program has a recurring test at the end of each 4-week cycle called the Athlean 400.  It’s 100 pushups, 100 sit ups, 100 inverted rows, and 100 bodyweight squats.  You can get these done in whatever grouping you choose.  A month ago, I completed it in 17:43. This time I completed it in 15:06.  I was really pleased with the improvement but was shooting for a sub 15-minute time to score at a higher level.  I’m still calling that a win.

    The second and more important test was the “Final X-AM.”  I hate the corny names but that’s the only thing I dislike about this program.  The Final X-AM requires 12 sets of ten reps and is also timed.  The exercises are burpee pushups, dumbbell swings, inverted rows, and V-Up Russian twists.  You must do one set of each (so basically a big super set) and then repeat until completed.

    I’ll leave the scoring levels aside and cut to the chase.  I had to complete this in 25 minutes or less to “graduate.”  This test has seriously kicked my ass before.  It’s humbling to be reminded how far I have to go.

    Four weeks ago, I completed ten of the sets in 32:20. I was winded, parched, and just dripping in sweat.  I was also pissed at myself because I was tired but not totally gassed.  I could have pushed on to finish even if I would have been over the 40-minute mark.

    This time I finished but it took 37:23. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.  I was not even close to passing.  But I’m finding the silver lining because I did finish, and my ten-set time dropped to 30 minutes.  That’s an unofficial mark and I’ll probably ignore it going forward.  It seemed relevant this time because of where I gave up last time.

    My lats and conditioning were clearly weaknesses four weeks ago.  I did much better on the inverted rows, but I have got to up my conditioning if I’m going to get my time down below 25 minutes.

    I really wanted to move on to AX2 but clearly, I’m not ready.  May Warty have mercy on my soul.

    Here’s where you report on your progress.  Our next check in will be the Sunday after Christmas.  So, for the brave among you, also tell us what your goals for the next check in.

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Thanksgiving Edition

    It’s Thanksgiving and by the time you see this you are probably already at someone else’s home, have a bunch of guests at your home, and/or are drunk.  I know my audience. In other words, if you can ambulate right now it’s a minor miracle. This is my review of walking as exercise.

    Before The Founders (Peace Be Upon Them) started this place, my beer palate was quite limited.  I drank Pacifico, the occasional Sam Adams, and Hefeweizen.  I still like all those beers.  I just didn’t realize how much more was out there.

    Mexican Sharpshooter and Nephilium kept writing and discussing different beers.  A number of different miscreants neerdowells borderline alcoholics commenters discussed any number of beers they enjoyed.  Many of the brand names were unfamiliar.  I was aware of some of the beer types, but many were new.  Kolsch?  Saisson?  What the hell were those?  I have no idea why I had dismissed so many different beers with so many different flavor profiles.  I had a hole in my mind.

    Somewhere along the way there was a discussion of stouts.  Sorry I don’t remember everyone who participated but I thank you all for your suggestions. I literally took notes (and still have them). I tried Founders Breakfast Stout and had the same epiphany as Barney Gumble when he first tried beer.  It may be the best beer I’ve ever had.  I really do want to have it with breakfast on a lazy weekend morning.

    Someone suggested Deschutes Obsidian Stout.  Good stuff.  Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout was supposed to be as good as Founders.  It was good but not great IMO.  I had no idea what you people were talking about when discussing mouth feel.  Now I do.

    While Founders is my gold standard, it is also pricy.  It’s $12 for a four pack at my local Total Wine.  So, I went looking for some alternatives.  I gave Anderson Valley Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout a try.  It is good and about half the cost of Founders.

     

    While in Trader Joes I stumbled upon Stockyard Oatmeal Stout.  I think I paid $6 for six pack.  I enjoyed it.  It’s not Founders but at one third the price it’s my new everyday stout.

     

    Since you are all drinking like fish today (except Mojeaux of course), throw in your suggestions for wheat beers.  I love Hefeweizen.  The hefe I had in Germany was mother’s milk.  I want to go back just to drink more. But there has to be more to the wheat beer category that I’m missing.

    Also, a sincere, hearty thanks to The Founders, everyone who has ever written an article, and the commentariat.  You have enriched my life and gotten me through a difficult Thanksgiving or two.

    Walking as exercise is better than sitting on your ass.  At least you are moving so you will burn a few calories and possibly clear your head.  If you are seriously overweight, it may be your only current exercise option.  Do it if it’s all that is available to you.  Walking as exercise 1.5/5.

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Holy HIIT

    I was carrying more weight than I wanted and had to do something about it. As my best friend says when he must lose weight, “I was pushing maximum density.”

    Moe

    I like running and I’ve run on and off for decades. But regular running was off the menu. I used to run with Moe and his arthritis makes any sustained run impossible.  Bros before hos and all that.

    Lucky for me AthleanX has the answer.  But you already knew that.  Welcome to the land of High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT). I don’t know if this is a common misconception, but before I knew better, I thought interval training was a bunch of bullshit used by soccer moms to avoid the mundane monotony and increased effort of a sustained consistent training pace. (h/t Trshmnstr) I couldn’t have been more wrong.

    The concept behind HIIT is simple.  You do an exercise at high intensity for a relatively short amount of time, have a short rest or short interval of low intensity work, and repeat.  How many times you repeat depends on your condition and what you want to achieve.

    One of the great things about HIIT is you don’t necessarily need any equipment.  Here’s a 10-minute HIIT workout that doesn’t require any equipment. (You’re welcome cisgender Glibbroads.) Okay, you literal bastards. You need a floor.  Tough crowd.

    Here’s another one that’s 20 minutes. (You’re welcome cisgender Glibdudes.) Really with what’s being demonstrated it could be any length you want. No more slacking of NoDak glibs (I’m looking at you MikeS). Cold weather is no longer an excuse.

    But Chafed I only have 5 minutes to work out!  FFS there’s always a way. Get moving.

    If you are willing to spend a modest amount of coin you can get a jump rope and some plyo boxes. Part of my program is doing Bumps and Jumps.  The bumps are burpee pushups. The jumps are jumps on to a plyo box around knee high. I use an 18” box. In a minute do 10 burpee pushups. Whatever part of the minute you don’t use you get to rest. In the next minute do 12 box jumps.  Whatever part of the minute you don’t use you can rest. The first time I did it I was gassed after six minutes.

    If you want to get out, then put on a pair of running shoes.  You aren’t going for a distance run.  You are going to sprint.  You can mix this up however you want.  If you are on a track, then spring the straight part and jog or walk the curves. Run 20 seconds, jog 20 seconds, and walk 20 seconds. You get the idea. You can mix it up how you like in whatever way your conditioning allows. The important part is to go all out for part of it, reduce the intensity for a bit, and repeat.

    I don’t know why improving my HIIT training is so strangely satisfying. When I ran for distance, I was proud when I increased the length of run. For some reason I can’t explain, I’m fist pumping psyched when I’m able to add another interval or two.

    A reminder that next week we all report in on what we achieved during the past four weeks.

    Have a great Thanksgiving!

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Holy Crap That Old Stuff Works

    I started working out when I was a teenager.  I don’t remember there being any gyms where I grew up at that time.  I had a weight set in the basement.  The collars were secured by screw.  Just thinking about it makes me feel like I grew up in Olden Tymes.

    When the ’80s rolled around there seemed to an explosion in workout “technology.”  A slew of Nautilus® machines were installed at a local racquetball club.  I remember the spiel about how the nautilus shape of the cams perfectly mimicked the power curve of your muscles or some such bullshit.

    Running shoes were also taking off.  No more running in Keds.  Reebok and Nike were on the scene.  I’m sure there was some explanation about why they were so much better.  All I remember is those things had cushioning so my feet felt much better transporting my pudgy ass.

    I don’t remember what brands followed and supplanted Nautilus® but they came fast and furious.  It seemed as though free weights were outmoded.  Only a Neanderthal would bother with them.  Getting on the ground to do a pushup was positively antiquated.  There’s no reason to run when you can hop on a Stairmaster.

    Infomercials pitched all sorts of fitness products or, as I think of most of them, garbage. There was Soloflex, Bowflex, and a ton of other crap I’ve mercifully forgotten.  I’m not sure if the Thighmaster was introduced in the late ’80s or early ’90s but… whatever.  Of course, there were also any number of workout videos.  You can thank me later for not linking a Jazzercise video.

    Getting back to it a couple of years ago, I had no idea some of that retro stuff was ridiculously effective.  Part of the conditioning I do is jumping rope. Jeebus I learned a lesson the first time I did that.  Lesson 1 was I was really out of shape.  Lesson 2 was rope jumping is a lot more exhausting than it looks.

    The ab wheel looks like a joke.  And it is if you do it wrong.  But with a little coaching to do it right, I found out what a killer it is.  It’s not part of the program but it is something I occasionally work in.

    I never got stability balls.  They look like a lot of fun for bouncing with little kids.  For exercise, what’s the point.  Right? Wrong.

    The Shake Weight™ looks like a joke but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Sorry, I couldn’t keep a straight face.  Yeah, that thing was garbage from day one.

    OK, Gliberinos, tell me in the comments what dinosaur age exercise turned out to be a great exercise for you.

     

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Form Follows Function

    For anyone who has done any type of regular exercise for any length of time, you have almost certainly been told how important form is.  Poor form either deprives you of the intended benefit or can lead to injuries.  Proper form maximizes the exercises benefits and avoids injury.

    Two exercises I have had the most trouble with are squats and deadlifts.  For men (and I assume women but correct me if I’m wrong Glibbroads), these are foundational exercises.  I could never get out of the starting gate, in part, because I royally screwed these up.

    I started “squatting” in my twenties.  I’m using quotes around squatting because my form was so bad I repeatedly injured myself.  I read books that had diagrams and descriptions on how to squat.  Some had pictures of bodybuilders squatting.  And I still got it wrong.

    That was nearly thirty years ago so I don’t clearly remember how I was led astray but I seem to recall being told to keep my legs about shoulder width apart, keep my back straight, and have my knees travel straight out over my toes.  I scrupulously followed these instructions resulting in constantly pitching forward when I would squat.  No question I was using my back during the lift.  One suggestion was to put a 2X4 under my heels.  That was stupid advice that I took it didn’t help.

    Squatting like that gave me back trouble and, I think, knee trouble too. I didn’t do any deadlifting in my 20s.  I don’t think it was in vogue at the time and nothing I read explained its importance.  So, with an aching back and right knee that liked to remind me it was there, I skipped deadlifting altogether.

    When I returned to lifting in my 50s, the idea of squatting was very unappealing.  In fact, it was a bit scary.  However, squatting and deadlifting are part of the AthleanX program so I either had to ditch the program or do both.  I trust the creator of the program so I readily accepted both exercises could be done without injuring myself.

    As much as I’ve gotten from the videos and explanations Jeff Cavaliere provides for the exercises, I still couldn’t get my squat right.  It was better but still a bit off.  So, I searched YouTube and found a modern-day Viking Alan Thrall.  This is his video that finally made clear to me how to property squat.

    After watching it a couple of times I wanted to reach back through time to choke out every f***ing author of the books I read in my twenties.  Did they really not know to tell me the bar should be moving vertically the entire time?  That I should be pushing with my midfoot?  That my knees should be travelling out at roughly a 45-degree angle?  I might have been spared a bunch of injuries and a thirty-year gap in squatting.

    I’m truly grateful to Thrall.  I’m finally able to squat with good form.  I’m feeling it all in my legs, not my back.  The day after leg day, I’m free of back pain and feeling it in my legs and ass.

    Thrall has his own YouTube channel.  I find some of his videos more helpful than others but overall, I recommend it.  He has a heavy emphasis on good form and proper technique.  Given my history that’s very important to me.  He has couple more helpful videos on squatting.  You can find them here and here.

    Getting my squat right gave me the confidence to try deadlifts.  This is the AthleanX video on how to properly deadlift.  Between that one and his Deadlift Checklist, I got enough to do these right.  I have to stay super focused when I deadlift to maintain proper form.  I have gotten distracted and every time that’s happened, I felt in my back for days afterward.

    I hope these helped you Glibfitters.  Tell us what exercises you screwed up in the past and how you found a way to do them right.

     

  • GlibFit 4.0 – Goal Setting Time

    Am I the only one who feels like a fat fuck? Did everyone enjoy their Halloween? Maybe snacked on your leftover candy or your kid’s candy? Good. It’s goal setting time.

    “But Chafed” you say, “I’m full of Halloween candy, I’m going to eat like a pig at Thanksgiving, and then there are office parties leading up to Christmas. Don’t even get me started on New Years Eve.” Look, I know you are a bunch of gluttonous, drunkards but you have to start some time. So, we are starting now.

    Pick a goal that you will report back on the Sunday after Thanksgiving. What do you want to accomplish in four weeks? It can be anything: weight loss, distance run, amount of weight lifted, etc. Go with whatever works for you.

    I told you last week that I’ve doing been AthleanX for the last two years. True confession time. It’s set up as a three-month program. At the end of each month you test. If you pass, then you go on to the next month. If you fail, then you repeat the month. Rinse and repeat.

    I was seriously out of shape when I started. It was not uncommon for me to curse under my breath at myself, “you old, fat fuck.” I couldn’t even finish the test for Month 1 the first time I took it. That was sobering. Anyway, I tested for Month 3 last weekend and failed. My goal is to pass next time. Passing means doing 12 sets of the following in less than 25 minutes:

    10 Burpee Pushups

    10 Kettlebell Swings

    10 Inverted Rows

    10 V-Up Russian Twists

    I need to cut off a lot time if I’m going to pass.

    Here is where goal setting comes in for me. Having a time limit on when I’m going to accomplish this forces me to focus on what I need to do to prepare. My lats are my weak point and additional ab work will be helpful.

    Having a time sensitive goal also makes each day critical. I was supposed to exercise 5 days this week. I’ll be in the gym Saturday night in order to get 4 in. What can I say? It was a tough week at work but I’m gutting it out instead of making an excuse not to go.

    So, Glibbroads and Glibboys what will you publicly commit to for the Sunday after Thanksgiving?

    P.S. No clever Babylon 5 links because Nephilium hasn’t commented on a single one. *sobs into pillow*