Tuesday Afternoon Links of Democracy!

Just kidding, you don’t get to bring your majority tyranny up in here. This is a bitter and capricious oligarchy. We’ll just keep holding votes until we get our way. All in favor?

But what inspired the title was that the Turks appear to be taking lessons from the EU on how to run a vote. That is, they’ll keep holding votes until they get the result they want. “Democracy is like a train: when you reach your destination, you get off” – Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Here’s a straight-news NPR story that is so fair, it might cause you to think the writer has secret libertarian tendencies.

In case anyone wonders why I keep taking the “under” on $75/bbl oil. Sadly, $15/bbl from the well to the distribution head would still somehow result in gas prices above $2. I’m not really sure where they’ve got their light ‘stills tuned, but it hasn’t been for gasoline in years. That’s just a byproduct made in sufficient amount. I expect that taxes, detergents, and other additives (cough, corn liquor, cough) probably run to $1.40 a gallon or more. By the time you add in distribution and storage, that’s just how life is anymore.

I’m all in favor of a combination whiskey distillery and performing arts center, but I think by the time it opens, they’ll have to stuff Bob Dylan to have him there. At least Lou Reed will be around to help him open it.

Here’s one from the mumbler that I like.

Comments

342 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon Links of Democracy!”

  1. Spudalicious

    Whiskey and art. I’m in.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I’ll make my own performing arts center! With whiskey! And blackjack! And hookers!

      In fact, forget the performing arts center and the blackjack!

      Ah, screw the whole thing.

      1. blackjack

        As long as it’s scotch whisky, I’m in. Oh and I prefer medium priced hooker, no toothless cheap whoores and now 1000 a night types, please.

    2. Spudalicious
  2. Tonio

    Nice illustration.

  3. Democracy is like a train: when you reach your destination, you get off

    You just hope that you reach your destination at the same time she reaches her destination.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I wonder how long it’ll be before Erdogan ends up like Il Duce.

      1. Suthenboy

        My money is on Maduro getting his lamp post first.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Almost certainly, Sultan Erdogan still seems to have a pretty broad base of support.

      2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        Why would Erdogan invade Ethiopia?

        1. Dr. Fronkensteen

          True you would figure Syria would be first in the reconstituted Ottoman Empire. They’re exhausted by war and may see Erdogan as a better alternative to Assad.

        2. Suthenboy

          According to a documentary I saw once the Ark of the Covenant is hidden away there. He needs it because it contains great power as a weapon. He can use it to smite all of his enemies, take over the world and have a thousand year reign.

          1. Spudalicious

            I thought it was stored away in a massive Army warehouse?

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            No, that’s the Ark of the Government

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Bravo!

          4. Enough About Palin

            Area 51.

          5. Fourscore

            Gonna need that ark with a 1000 year rain…

    2. Tonio

      “The ruling party has said it will demand a re-run of the vote, citing alleged irregularities.”

      This would never happen in Chicago or Philadelphia.

      1. Tonio

        The losing part, that is.

    3. Plinker762

      And off to the showers after

  4. Suthenboy

    “Defining ‘excessive’ is tricky.”

    No, it isnt. Do you have a conviction? Due process has been served? If not then a penny is excessive. Not only excessive but illegal. Like gun control this issue is easily sorted out by pointing out that the crime committed is one committed by the state.

    1. Spudalicious

      What I find heinous is law enforcement officials justify violating the Constitution they took an oath to uphold and defend with “well, it’s a useful crime fighting tool.” And you no one ever asks them where that exemption exists in the Constitution.

      1. Chipwooder

        The FYTW Clause is where it exists

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Oaths don’t mean shit to the unprincipled.

    2. “Why are we moving toward less tools in the toolbox?” he asks. At the same time, he acknowledges the political pressure created by high-profile seizure cases such as Timbs.

      Because it’s evil to take people’s stuff just because you suspect them of selling something icky.

      1. The Other Kevin

        He doesn’t need some “court” to tell him when a person’s guilty or not. That’s basically what he’s saying.

      2. Tonio

        That whole “less tools” bullshit is an oily attempt to sidestep any discussion of constitutionality, decency, rule of law, etc.

        1. commodious spittoon

          It could have a chilling effect!

      3. Spartacus

        Powers.
        Not tools, powers.
        A screwdriver is a tool. A hammer is a tool. A chainsaw is a tool. What they want are *powers* and *authority*.

        The first step toward winning this is reclaiming the meaning of words.
        The second is forcing them to realize that making life easier for them is not the goal, or at least it’s not supposed to be.

        Depriving people of their rights is supposed to be hard. That’s how you can tell a free society from an unfree one.

    3. Brett L

      Even when convicted. Every law has a “fine not to exceed $X”. Is the value of what you are seizing more than you can legally assess a cash fine for? Congratulations, it is excessive.

      1. robc

        This is what RGB said in the recent decision. It was more a rule of thumb that a mandate, but I think it was one of those “Don’t make us mandate this” type decisions.

    4. Juvenile Bluster

      “Our goal is to put a pause” on this legislation, says Dakota County Sheriff Tim Leslie. He says there’s a mushrooming meth trade in his part of Minnesota, and he needs asset forfeiture to disrupt the crime networks by seizing property, even when the culprits can’t be found for prosecution.

      “Why are we moving toward less tools in the toolbox?” he asks. At the same time, he acknowledges the political pressure created by high-profile seizure cases such as Timbs.

      “Those outrageous examples, we have to face those,” he says. “But we just don’t want the pendulum to swing too far. We want to still have some tools for the outrageous things that we see going on” in drug trafficking networks.

      So this asshole is too lazy to go and find the people who are actually manufacturing meth, so it’s easier for him to say “fuck it, we’ll just steal some property and call it a day”.

      (SLD: Of course this shouldn’t be a crime in the first place)
      (NSLD: And this cop is a fucking liar. Wait, that’s probably a standard libertarian disclaimer too.)

      1. Mad Scientist

        Stealing is a tool!

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          The cop is a tool.

        2. Enough About Palin

          Just like waterboarding. Police need to use waterboarding. How else are they going to get a confession? Do you want criminals to go free simply on the technicality of no confession simply because they weren’t waterboarded?

      2. Sticking the effective cold medications behind the counter and prosecuting people trying to buy “too much” didn’t stop the production of meth, but nobody would ever suggest repealing those laws. Because the only way you can show you care about the children is by teaching them to continue to do things proven not to work.

        1. Tonio

          Well not “nobody,” just libertarian cranks.

          1. Lackadaisical

            Libertarian cranks are nobodies.

      3. Its the idiotic idea that “were gonna hit them where it hurts because they’ll just hide all their cash otherwise and become judgmentproof”

        1) that could be applied to any crime. Bye bye car during traffic stop because you might not pay the citation.

        2) it shouldn’t be your fucking job to bust up certain black market economies

        3)fuck your banana republic bullshit. There’s a process for getting your fines from your victims. Follow it.

      4. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Utilitarianism reigns supreme.

    5. Suthenboy

      My favorite asset forfeiture story. Not sure why it stuck in my head.

      Florida, maybe 25 years ago – Cops seize hundreds of thousands of dollars from bank account and seize equipment and property from….a car wash. They claimed the car wash was used to clean cars used to transport dope so that dope sniffing dogs would not alert. They claimed no connection or knowledge of the car wash owner of the drug mules, only that his car wash was used by them. The guy’s business collapsed, he was broke and all of his employees out of a job.

      No court, no evidence, just the word of the cops.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Christ… I’d be tempted to do something really illegal if that happened to me.

      2. Count Potato

        That’s insane. By that same reasoning the cops could seize the water and electric companies.

      3. They might not ever get rich, but let me tell them what’s better than digging a ditch.

        1. There ain’t no telling who you might meet, a drug dealer, or even a, Indian Chief.

    6. Rhywun

      In February, the court ruled unanimously in Timbs’ favor. But the victory was a narrow one.

      Get! Out!

  5. l0b0t

    Nice music choice. Here is my favorite Dylan song – https://youtu.be/agdoeRpTfHg

    1. The Other Kevin

      Hey, she’s back from her trip to Thailand!

      1. Count Potato

        You must have missed her trip to Israel.

    2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      She has a bit of a Jessica Rabbit look going on there. She’s not thicc, she’s just been augmented that way.

    3. Francisco d’Anconia

      Prediction: That goes terribly wrong in a few years.

      1. Mad Scientist

        In a few years? It’s already terrible.

        1. Francisco d’Anconia

          Suboptimal, but still a 1

    1. Rasilio

      Ok I gotta admit the dude is in pretty good shape for his age but the tidy whities are not doing him any favors.

      You’d have thought they would have packed them with at least something to make him look impressive

      1. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        I was in the pool! I was in the pool!

    2. Tonio

      Meh. Nice bod. Unimpressive package.

      1. Enough About Palin

        He’s a grower not a shower…

    3. Rhywun

      I always LOL at the Mail’s idea of “incredibly ripped”. The guy is my age and I’m a couple decades past my prime too. I don’t need to see this; I’ll remember him as he was….

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        I was thinking the same. He’s in fine shape, especially for his age, but he’s not ripped.

  6. Count Potato

    “Lori Loughlin now facing 40 YEARS in prison after grand jury indicts her and 18 other parents on charges of fraud and money laundering in college admissions scandal”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6904263/Lori-Loughlin-facing-40-YEARS-prison-grand-indicts-18-parents.html

    That seems a bit excessive.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      “Person Is facing xx years in prison” is not something to take seriously. You can’t just take everything someone is charged with, add up the potential maximum sentence, have them run consecutively and say they’re facing that long in prison. That NEVER happens (well, outside of very serious crimes where the guilty party has a very long criminal history).

      Now, she shouldn’t be facing any prison time for this, but she certainly isn’t facing 40 years.

      1. Rasilio

        That NEVER happens (well, outside of very serious crimes where the guilty party has a very long criminal history everyone who doesn’t take the plea deal and goes to trial).

        Ftfy

        The point of the piled on charges and ridiculous potential sentence is to ensure that the accused takes whatever plea deal the DA deigns to offer and does not even consider challenging it for one second.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Even when it goes to trial, though, the judge follows sentencing guidelines that aren’t going to add up to the maximum.

          (And for that I’ll add in the bullshit that is the “trial tax”)

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      That’s ridiculous.

      Meanwhile that witch-twat Hilary doesn’t have to face justice for her actions.

      The system is whacked man.

      1. Tonio

        “witch-twat”

        Good, Rufus, good. Let the hatred flow through you…

    3. LJW

      Am I the only one who is saying so she bribed some private school people to get her kid, why is that a crime and why should I care?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        No, you’re not.

      2. Mad Scientist

        No, you definitely are not.

      3. Francisco d’Anconia

        And the funny part…

        It’s always been that way.

      4. Juvenile Bluster

        Nope.

      5. Suthenboy

        No, you are not. No malice. No violence or threats. No theft of property. Private school (albeit one that takes fed govt guaranteed dollars). Gobs of other people were doing it for decades and paid a lot more money than she did. She got a super discount because of her celebrity status (used to draw in the ones paying ten times that much).
        I am not sure what the motive behind this prosecution is. They are targeting the celebrities instead of the stock brokers and crony industry barons.

        On the one hand I am glad to see the game busted up…I have been saying for years that the ruling class needs to go. On the other hand…whoa guys. You are going a bit overboard here. We dont hang people for non-violent crimes.

        1. Tonio

          “I am not sure what the motive behind this prosecution is. They are targeting the celebrities instead of the stock brokers and crony industry barons.”

          The motive is entirely clear. The progs are sending a message to the idle rich that the rules very much apply to them, too.

          1. Rhywun

            I figure it’s just some grandstander bucking for a promotion.

        2. I am not sure what the motive behind this prosecution is

          Initially, I figured that Trump either bribed one or more of his kid’s way into school or had his way into school bribed by his parents, and this was going to be how they finally get him, but I think they would have dropped that hammer by now, maybe they are waiting for a conviction, or it’s just my TDS and I’m way off.

          1. Suthenboy

            Those occurred to me as well. Another case of the left going after Trump and stepping on rakes?
            Actually I would be surprised if there was no quid pro quo in getting Trump into Wharton but no doubt the old man was more old school about it. Donate a building after the fact or something like that.

        3. Spudalicious

          Ah, but she took a space from a more deserving, probably minority student, Suthen. We have to show the woke crowd that you can’t buy your way out of a problem just because you’re wealthy.

          Yep, in the age of outrage, they’re going to make an example of her.

        4. Gadianton

          I am not sure what the motive behind this prosecution is.

          Pour encourager les autres

        5. Raven Nation

          Some of the bribes were disguised as charitable deductions. Then some of the geniuses claimed the deductions on their tax forms. So now the IRS is involved.

          1. Suthenboy

            Aaaand there it is. Didn’t know that. That’ll do it alright.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    My Dylan fave:

    God said, “You can do what you want, Abe, but-

    Next time you see me, you better run.”

    Abe said, “Where you want this killin’ done?”

    1. Fatty Bolger

      That’s pretty cool, until I imagine it in Dylan’s voice, and then it sucks.

  8. mexican sharpshooter

    Just kidding, you don’t get to bring your majority tyranny up in here. This is a bitter and capricious oligarchy. We’ll just keep holding votes until we get our way. All in favor?

    Present!

    1. Lackadaisical

      Angling for the presidency, I see.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    d’oh

    ^coming

    “Next time you see me comin’, you better run.”

    Stupid fingers.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Did you get holophonor lessons from Mrs. Mellinger too?

  10. Juvenile Bluster

    Israeli elections were today. We’ll probably know the winner in the morning.

    Bibi’s party’s likely going to lose its status as the majority party, but enough right-wing parties are going to take seats that he’ll be the one to cobble together a government and stay PM.

    Hope I’m wrong and he’s thrown out on his ass.

    1. robc

      Is there an Israeli libertarian party?

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Lets see there’s OMWC, HM….

        Two is a party right?

        1. Dr. Fronkensteen

          A libertarian party at any rate. Wouldn’t want too big so you can’t rent out the banquet halls of phone booths.

        2. Francisco d’Anconia

          Two is certainly a libertarian party. (But there still won’t be no chicks!)

        3. Juvenile Bluster

          A-HEM.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Now its a crowd.

    2. They didn’t have a majority, but a plurality and cobbled together a government with the Torah-Reading Welfare Queens Parties.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        I meant largest individual party. Derp.

      2. Tonio

        “Torah-Reading Welfare Queens” for the win.

    3. Count Potato

      Why do you hope he gets thrown out?

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        Because he’s an asshole who gives a shit only about his own grip on power, not about Israel.

        The Blue and White Party really wouldn’t change anything foreign policy wise but would be better for the country.

        1. Count Potato

          He’s always seemed OK to me.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    You can’t just take everything someone is charged with, add up the potential maximum sentence, have them run consecutively and say they’re facing that long in prison.

    That depends. Are you a prosecutor with political aspirations who’s “negotiating” a plea and co-operation?

  12. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Exxon Mobil Corp. plans to reduce the cost of pumping oil in the Permian to about $15 a barrel, a level only seen in the giant oil fields of the Middle East.

    The scale of Exxon’s drilling means that it can spread its costs over such a big operation that the basin will become competitive with almost anywhere in the world, Staale Gjervik, president of XTO Energy, the supermajor’s shale division, said in an interview.

    That’s a hell of a goal. If they can achieve it, it will completely alter the geopolitical landscape.

    1. Raston Bot

      so you’re saying the House of Saud is fucked?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Pretty much.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          As are the Canadian oil fields.

      2. Francisco d’Anconia

        so you’re saying the House of Saud is fucked?

        No, they’ll simply have to legitimately compete for a change.

        Hopefully, they’ll find a way to bring it down to $5

    2. LJW

      Are they planning on using the developing carbon capture technology in their drilling?

  13. Count Potato
    1. Spudalicious

      *polite applause*

    2. SDF-7

      :narrows graze:

  14. Juvenile Bluster

    “a poor decision was made”

    Town of Ridgefield, CT

    There as been an incident in town that we want make citizens aware of. A RHS baseball game at Governor Park was delayed due to weather conditions on the field this morning. A poor decision was made (and being looked into by the RPD) to “dry the field quicker” and 24 gallons of gasoline was poured and set on fire. Thanks to the RFD, Peter Hill the Director of Public Works, DEEP, the RPD, and our Certified Spill Response Team for their incredible help. No one was injured and no one is in danger. The plan is to excavate the infield, place dirt in a safe container, and add fresh, clean soil to the field. We will update you as we know more.

    1. LJW

      Did they hire Florida men for their grounds crew?

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        +1 Hold my beer. Watch this.

    2. Private Chipperbot

      We used to do the same thing to dry spots on the field. 24 gallons seems a bit much.

    3. Suthenboy

      Parks and Recreation for the win. Genius!!

  15. Raston Bot

    apparently the artist Nathan Pyle who does the Strange Planet cartoons is pro-life. and because he fails that litmus test and wants to own all women, we should all stop sharing his content.

    https://nylon.com/nathan-pyle-anti-abortion

    Finding out about Pyle’s problematic views serves as a needed warning to make sure the content that you’re sharing was created by someone who views you as deserving of autonomy over your own body.

    in case anyone was wondering, Nylon is the dumber flashier sister of Teen Vogue.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That “journalist” is a major douchebag.

      1. Raston Bot

        i’m unfamiliar with the Casey Miller’s general body of “work”. i assume it all has the same level of “quality”.

        1. Rhywun

          Who doesn’t like smarmy, passive-aggressive bigotry?! I mean come on.

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Even Soave called this out as bullshit. And there wasn’t even a “to be sure”!

      If you have been on social media lately, you have probably seen Strange Planet, a four-panel cartoon strip by artist and author Nathan W. Pyle. The cartoons depict aliens doing mundane tasks and describing them in overly literal terms that make them sound ridiculous: A Valentine’s Day card, for instance, is a picture of “a vital organ being wounded.”

      Funny stuff, right? Well, not anymore. Strange Planet is, as the kids say, #canceled.

      On Monday, Nylon—an online fashion magazine that reads like it’s staffed entirely by 13-year-olds—signal-boosted a shocking discovery: Pyle is pro-life. He even had the nerve to share this opinion semi-publicly. Once, in 2017, he made a comment on his personal Instagram about how proud he was of his girlfriend and “all the courageous mothers” who attended the March for Life.

      Nylon’s intrepid reporter notes that we all should have seen this coming. “It’s clear that we shouldn’t have been surprised that he has such conservative views,” she writes. “The first line in his bio is ‘I follow Jesus,’ which should clue you in about his religious leanings.”

      The subhed of the article: “We should be more careful with what we’re sharing,” as if re-posting a Pyle cartoon is akin to juggling knives.

      I have complained many times previously about the pernicious tendency in certain hyper-woke circles to gang up on anybody who expresses the slightest dissent from leftist orthodoxy. Here, I’ll simply close by noting that Pyle’s alleged pro-life views are not exactly a fringe position.

      1. commodious spittoon

        UNPERSON THE WRONGTHINKER.

        Fuckin creeps.

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          I really miss the time that 1984 was just a dystopian view of the future. 🙁

          (seriously, people If we’re going to have a dystopia, can’t we have Brave New World instead of 1984? Unlimited sex and Soma are much better than this shit is.)

      2. Rico’s pair seems to have at least partially descended since the glibbening. Good on him!

      3. Dr. Fronkensteen

        His religious leanings? What if he were Muslim?

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          This is the left, so the only thing worse than him being Christian would be if he was Jewish.

        2. Suthenboy

          Many Muslims believe that their religion requires them to kill or subjugate unbelievers. Proggies get a hard on for that.

          1. Spudalicious

            Until they start throwing gays off of buildings. Oh, wait, they look the other way when that happens. Somebody elses country.

          2. Juvenile Bluster

            It’s Islamophobic to point that out.

            It’s *really* Islamophobic to point that out while comparing the treatment of LGBT individuals in Israel versus in the rest of the Middle East.

    3. robc

      I was unaware of Strange Planet. I find them amusing.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, I’d never seen them before. Very clever.

    4. These are the same people who would decry the Hollywood blacklist of the 1950s.

      Obviously, blacklists are OK to them as long as it’s the right people being blacklisted.

      1. tarran

        Yep. six years ago, “mumbles” Menino, who was mayor of Boston at the time, tried to ban Chick-Fil -A from our fair city to the enthusiastic support of my high school class mates. At the time, I shamed them into changing their stance by asking whether the problem with McCarthy wasn’t trying to ban people from earning a living for their political views but that the target ideology was communism.

        Now, I don’t think my argument would give them pause for even a nano-second.

        1. Ayn Random Variation

          Those people were idiots. I had never heard of this chain until the progs started protesting it. Then one day I saw one in Manhattan and decided to try it to see what the big deal was. Good job lefties.

    5. Ayn Random Variation

      I’m agnostic when it comes to abortion, but anytime I hear the “autonomy over your own body” argument I can’t help but say I agree, just like it’s nobody’s business what drugs you put into your body, or whether you want to sell your body for sex, right?
      “That’s stupid” is the smartest response I usually get.

      1. Fourscore

        ” whether you want to sell your body for sex, right?”

        Wanting to sell and finding a buyer is harder than I thought. Maybe I’ve priced myself out of the market. $20 may not be $20.

        1. Spudalicious

          Did you try downtown?

          1. Puh-leaze, everybody knows that Fourscore is an uptown girl.

          2. Spudalicious

            So he’s been living in a white bread world?

          3. I bet he never did a black street guy.

  16. This is a bitter and capricious oligarchy.

    Cool.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Finding out about Pyle’s problematic views serves as a needed warning to make sure the content that you’re sharing was created by someone who views you as deserving of autonomy over your own body.

    So, what she’s asking is, “Are you of the Body?”

    1. Count Potato

      “I’m not sure people understand how chilling some of these threats of violence are. Worth researching Stephanie Hayden. “Stephanie Hayden has a criminal record for assaulting someone with a golf club. She was recently joking about bringing clubs along to a women’s rights meeting.””

      https://twitter.com/mandystadt/status/1115072155266486277

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The issue is not really the mental cases, they are always there. The issue is the preferential treatment the State and Big Business give to the mental cases by kowtowing to their demands either out of fear or because of some perverted political agenda.

        1. Suthenboy

          Political agenda. The state created them. They are called useful idiots. This is why they are useful…a mob used as a weapon.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The trans activists are some seriously deranged people.

      1. Count Potato

        So are many of the anti-trans activists.

    3. commodious spittoon

      Heinous invectives and dogpiling = just fine, but “learn to code” = banished.

      Also,

      ♀️Born, not Worn XX #BornNotWorn

      @1angelcaresW
      Apr 7
      More
      It could just as easily be the alt-right, incel, kekistani crowd. Their hatred of women is extreme. They’ll even go after men who dare to take the side of women (Graham Lineham, for example).
      Trans Rights Activists is a men’s rights movement.

      lolwut?

      1. tarran

        Being banned from twitter is not punishment. It’s like being banned from the shittiest men’s room in the shittiest bar in your city.

        It you want to go there, you’ve probably got something wrong with you.

        When twitter bans people, they’re doing those people a favor.

      2. commodious spittoon

        Regina ?? ?? ?️‍? ??

        @PoliticalFandom
        Apr 6
        More
        Much of TRA are white men’s rights activist incels so it’s not a bug but a feature to incite hatred against both lgb & T community, it’s why “gay community” is in their campaign as a threat. I’m gender critical, but I’m also aware of the exploitation being done by the TRA.

        Holy shit, the lore is deep. Man, the world must seem awful when your head is this fucked.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Fucked my tag! Edit fairy, help! The block quote should have ended before Holy shit.

          1. Francisco d’Anconia

            Better?

          2. commodious spittoon

            Gracias!

        2. commodious spittoon

          Apparently, trans “women” who insist that lesbians must sleep with them are Men’s Rights Activists because… reasons? Because when you have a bete noire, everyone you don’t like is secretly in league with them?

          Goddamn ratfucking commies, all of them!

          1. Apparently, trans “women” who insist that lesbians must sleep with them are Men’s Rights Activists because…

            Because fuck you, that’s why?

          2. tarran

            Apparently, trans “women” who insist that lesbians must sleep with them are Men’s Rights Activists because… reasons?

            Actually, that sounds totally like something 4chaners would do.

    4. kinnath

      It’s easy to destroy someone’s life.

      They do it because it works.

  18. robc

    Call back to two threads ago…

    i would love for SF to make a sensible decision about housing and allow high rise apartments throughout the core of the city.

    I want to laugh at all these people with $1.5MM mortgages and houses worth $500k.

    Sorry if that is any of the glibertariat, I won’t laugh too hard directly at you.

    1. The entire situation is flat insane.

      1. LJW

        Not sure if this comment is intentionally a pun…

    2. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Can you have high rise apartments in SF or would that be too much risk in an earthquake zone?

      1. robc

        SalesForce Tower is over 1000 ft tall.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Still smaller than Benioff’s ego.

          1. robc

            How is it possible for him and Ellison to exist in the metro area?

      2. dorvinion

        Earthquakes probably aren’t a problem. Whole bunch of skyscrapers in Tokyo.

        A bigger problem with SF is parts of the city are kinda hard to get a foundation to competent rock.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Tower_(San_Francisco)

      3. Gadfly

        You can build to compensate for earthquakes, if you’ve got the money. Given SF’s astronomically high home values and rents, I’d imagine earthquake-safe high rise apartments would be economically viable in the area.

      4. Rhywun

        There’s probably zoning everywhere that freezes the current density anyway.

    3. Subwoofer

      Some of the comments in that article are batsh!t.

      Nobody is envious of people who are thieves and parasites. That’s what the billionaire class, like the guy who owns Salesforce is. I love how you think if you defend him he’s gonna let you in his club and give you a few million. Typical gullible naive easily conned American.

      Only people that have an IQ under 60 spout Ayn Rand/libertarian propaganda like you are.

      The real parasites are homeowners and people with mortgages. My tax dollars foot the bill for Prop 13. Nobody forced the landlord to buy the property, he knew what time it was and went with it anyway.

      You don’t make people billions by hiring more people and paying them more. You make billions by firing everyone and doing with the least amount of people. You are an idt. Billionares get rid of more jobs than they make and with less pay. Rockefeller bought refineries and cut workers and salaries to the bone and made a killing.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The lefties really hate Prop 13.

        Repealing it would instantly put millions of elderly in assisted living.

        1. Rhywun

          So would repealing rent control in NYC, to be honest.

  19. robc

    JB has the start of a real good question…if we have to choose, what dystopia would you choose to live in?

    I know we have a few votes for Mad Max. And probably some for Zardoz?

    Any Logan’s Run votes?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Blade Runner?

      No to Logan’s run. Get off of my lawn.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I can haz young Jenny Agutter?

      1. hell yes… ::star on hand glows red:: – dammit!

    3. Trolleric the Goth

      I think both of those beat the Soylent Green universe

    4. LJW

      Soylent Green… As long as they have a cure for Kuru.

    5. Brett L

      Do I get to kill people or am I one of the victims? This figures strongly into my ZARDOZ/Logan’s Run choice.

      1. robc

        Are you past the Logan’s Run expiration date?

        1. Brett L

          Yes.

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Idiocracy, at least it would be familiar.

      1. Suthenboy

        Winner

      2. Tejicano

        Lucky for you we have already arrived

    7. Rasilio

      I gotta go with Brave New World. I’m certain I’d end up in exile on an island somewhere with the other rebellious Alphas but at least it is a world I can live with

    8. Tundra

      Anthem

      1. robc

        I don’t know, that one was pretty bad. Although escape was fairly easy.

        I am going for Farenheit 451.

    9. Juvenile Bluster

      If not Brave New World then THX 1138. Or any other one where the government’s giving out enough drugs where I don’t give a shit that I’m in a dystopia.

    10. Enough About Palin

      The Hunger Games and I get Katniss

    11. dorvinion

      Demolition man

      Every restaurant is taco bell/pizza hut

      On the other hand, everything would be vegetarian so maybe not.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Where did you get the meat? Do you see any cows here?

        1. Francisco d’Anconia
        2. Juvenile Bluster

          It was a good rat burger though.

          Libertarian Dennis Leary was the best part of that movie.

      2. Mad Scientist

        I’m never going to learn how to use the little shells.

    12. Winded

      How about “The Book of Eli”? Jennifer Beals has a daughter, and it’s Mila Kunis.

      1. Galt1138

        Mila Kunis. Mmm.

    13. Mad Scientist

      Deathrace 2000

    14. Francisco d’Anconia

      The Postman

    15. Rhywun

      Escape from New York, but only if I was in the Duke’s good graces.

    16. mexican sharpshooter

      The Outlaw Josey Wales

    17. prolefeed

      JB has the start of a real good question…if we have to choose, what dystopia would you choose to live in?

      A better timeline with a somewhat less statist version of the current runup towards a panopticon Total Police State?

      If I gotta choose a dystopia, but you make it open ended like that, I’ll choose one better than the current mild dystopia.

    18. my choice is obvious

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Its Twister isn’t it?

        1. Mad Scientist

          Minority Report

  20. whiz

    OK, the photo on the front page reminded me of a meme I’ve been wanting to make.

  21. dorvinion

    My town’s police do a ‘citizens police academy’ sort of thing every year.

    A group of I dunno probably 20 or 30 people, 2 or 3 hours once a week for 6 or 8 weeks.

    Its not a training to direct traffic at special events, or anything like that. More of a “this is how we do our jobs” sort of thing. So they take you to their range, run you through a few exercises on evidence gathering. Set up a mock crime scene and have everyone go through it. Probably offer ride alongs (though in a small town that would be 2 hours of sleep most of the time)

    Part of me says “Apply because it would be interesting”
    Another part of me says “Don’t do it you won’t be able to keep your mouth shut about things libertarians don’t like about modern policing and you’ll end up on a list of local malcontents”

    What say you Glibs?

    1. robc

      My sister-in-law and her husband just did that in TN.

      I am with you, I wouldn’t be able to keep my mouth shut.

      Then again, I managed to keep it shut on the Budweiser tour.

      1. LJW

        Hey the Budweiser tour gives you free pretzels, so there’s one reason to open your mouth.

        1. robc

          I don’t remember pretzels, but there was free beer, and they have some options that don’t completely suck.

          1. LJW

            I went with my parents when I was 10… So 1994, they may have changed their snacks.

      2. Tundra

        I thought the Coors tour was great.

        1. LJW

          Now that I think of it I did all 3 “big brewery” tours when I wasn’t of age. What a waste…

      3. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        Did you ask where the corn syrup was?

    2. Tonio

      Keep your mouth shut, and then write an article for us. You’d be surprised how much a bored hack will let spill when he thinks he has an appreciative audience.

      1. dorvinion

        Now that’s an idea.

        I don’t know how interesting a writer I’d be though.

        1. Gadfly

          I don’t know how interesting a writer I’d be though.

          Then just collect the facts and let Sugar Free ghost-write the piece for you.

        2. Suthenboy

          Dude. They publish me and people actually read me.

          Do it.

        3. Spudalicious

          You act like we’d read the article before going OT.

          *runs away before Swiss gets here*

    3. Suthenboy

      Do it. Get friendly with the cops. You will see that most of them are just shmoes trying to hold down a job, pay a mortgage and feed their kids. A few of them will be solid gold, honorable men. A few of them will be psychopaths.
      In any case, they will get to know you so be a likable guy. Having connections like that can come in handy. You may think you are willing to fight the good fight if you get in a bind, but what about your brother? Your son or daughter? Knowing people and having them know you can be a good thing.
      Besides, you might learn some cool stuff.

      1. Suthenboy

        And what Tonio said.

      2. Tonio

        Also, what Suthenboy said.

      3. Spudalicious

        Words of wisdom.

      4. Tundra

        Suthen is right.

        Again.

      5. dorvinion

        I don’t necessarily think they are a bunch of jerks.

        From what I can see their handling of dogs at large inspires confidence.

        I’ve been convinced to see if they have open spots.

        They never mention a limit or how they decide other than they ask if you’ve been convicted of anything but a traffic offense, presumably because there is range time which I suppose is itself a reason to do it, especially if they can bring out some good hardware.

        1. Tundra

          Sounds like a small town.

          Good luck!

      6. Galt1138

        Amen.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    Bitter, hateful, loathesome woman writes about Kirstjen Nielson.

    On Sunday evening, news broke that Kirstjen Nielsen was leaving her job as head of the Department of Homeland Security. The New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman tweeted that according to people close to Nielsen, one reason she hung on as long as she did was because “she was aware how awful life would/will be for her on the outside,” given her role in defending Donald Trump’s policies.

    Let’s make it so.

    Nielsen did not create Trump’s monstrous policy of separating migrant families, but she should be known forever as the person who carried it out. She put babies in cages, traumatized children for life, and then appears to have lied to Congress about what she had done. She did this evil work with either blithe incompetence or malicious sloppiness, failing to create a system to properly track kids who were ripped from their families. On Friday, the Trump administration said it could take up to two years to identify thousands of separated migrant children.

    Michelle Goldberg is a despicable cunt.

    1. LJW

      Still pushing the babies in cages BS. Those pictures were during the Obama administration.

      1. I’m fairly certain Trump’s border people are using those same facilities, I think the talking point now is that they are chain link partitions, not cages.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      She just keeps getting worse.

    3. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      How does Goldberg have a job? I haven’t read a single intelligent thing from her.

      1. Mad Scientist

        It’s not about intelligence, it’s about eyeballs on pages.

        1. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

          True, but I can’t figure out how anybody reads that. She’s uniquely bad.

      2. Tonio

        “How does Goldberg have a job?”

        Srsly, dude? NYT

      3. Suthenboy

        Commie rag. Vicious, despicable demoralized useful idiot.

        It adds up.

  23. Juvenile Bluster

    I just got a robocall from the Broward school district about how dangerous vaping is and that OMG you need to talk to your children before they kill themselves with it.

    You fucking assholes failed at every goddamn step before the MSD High shooting, and this is what you concentrate on? Fuck you, Runcie.

    1. LJW

      So give your kids a carton of cigarettes instead?

      1. commodious spittoon

        Gotta trade something so they’re not trading ass. PRISON RULES, BITCH.

        *shivs LJW*

    2. Count Potato

      Because it’s better that kids smoke?

    3. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      Sounds like they have a new automatic calling system and they want to use it a lot. That’s what my kids’ schools did. We’d get 1-2 calls daily from the school with some rambling message that only very slowly got to the point. Enough people must have complained because they rarely call now.

      1. pan fried wylie

        “A few of us in the PTA chipped in for our own robocaller setup to complain to the Board.”

    4. Suthenboy

      They bought that robocalled with grant money they received by keeping crime rates low. You know, by not arresting or prosecuting Nikolas Cruz and his ilk to keep the numbers low.

  24. Private Chipperbot
    1. Private Chipperbot

      Dammit. Brooks’d myself when the page didn’t load right. Reply to Robc.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    Coincidentally, the day before Nielsen resigned, a coalition of progressive groups signed on to a petition asking corporate America to blacklist senior people in the Trump administration, including Nielsen, who took part in crafting, enacting or defending family separation. “Allowing her to seek refuge in a corporate corner office or a boardroom, university, speaking agency or elsewhere poses a significant reputational risk for those involved,” said Karl Frisch, a spokesman for Restore Public Trust, the group organizing the campaign.

    How much of a risk will depend on decent Trump-hating Americans. The Resistance has been flagging recently, even if abhorrence of Trump’s degenerate administration has not. Many people, having worked frantically to deliver the House to Democrats in the midterms, are exhausted. The crackup of the Women’s March, and the resulting tensions between some black and Jewish activists, has been deeply dispiriting. The beginning of the Democratic presidential primary has reanimated old intra-left animosities. And relentless outrage is hard to sustain, no matter how justified.

    I’ll provide the gasoline, if you’ll promise to self-immolate in the middle of Pennsylvania Ave, Michelle.

    1. Rhywun

      That’s more spittle-flecking than I’d come to expect from that newspaper. Sign of the times, I guess.

    2. Subwoofer

      decent Trump-hating Americans

      So its decent to hate people, at least if they’re the right people, now. The rate of degeneracy in American society this millennium has been astounding.

  26. The Late P Brooks

    if we have to choose, what dystopia would you choose to live in?

    A Boy and His Dog.

    1. commodious spittoon

      “They didn’t have to cut her! She coulda been used two or three more times!”

      1. Subwoofer

        Best line in the movie.

        I’d pick the Fallout universe. Shoulder mounted nukes FTW

    2. Mad Scientist

      I’ll second that.

    3. Spudalicious

      +1 Harlan Ellison.

  27. Tundra

    Here’s one from the mumbler that I like.

    Me too. I’m not a huge fan but that there’s a damn fine song!

  28. The Late P Brooks

    These are the same people who would decry the Hollywood blacklist of the 1950s.

    Obviously, blacklists are OK to them as long as it’s the right people being blacklisted.

    See, also: Goldberg, Michelle.

    1. Rasilio

      There is a shameful shortage of pillows in that image

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Excellent

    3. AlmightyJB

      Needs less clothes and more baby oil

    4. Count Potato

      HAWT

    5. Spudalicious

      Commenters agree, imminent lesbian group sex.

  29. Ayn Random Variation

    So I came out of my hole to use the scanner, and I run into a Partner here who for some reason starts talking to me. One thing leads to another and he’s going on about how we need to lock up the mentally ill like we used to back in good old days.
    I say well you have a great point but there’s the question of civil liberties. You can’t just lock up people against their will even if they’re crazy.
    He says civil liberties? That’s something they say when they don’t care about these people. There’s nothing “civil liberties” (he literally used air quotes) about living on the street.
    Then he walked away and I went back to my hole to rub my temple and type this.

    1. Dr Mossy Lawn

      Ask if he has any modest proposals?.

    2. Tonio

      ‘There’s nothing “civil liberties” (he literally used air quotes) about living on the street.’

      Fuck-off, slaver. -The Late, Great JsubD

      1. Ayn Random Variation

        THIS is why I wish I had Fuck You money.

    3. Either you believe in innate human dignity, or you can find a way to rationalize any horrific treatment through unpeopling.

    4. Suthenboy

      Remind him that in the ‘good ol’ days’ gays and disobedient wives were committed against their will and given ‘therapy’. Be sure and do the air quotes.

      1. Spudalicious

        Better than the wife going to the doctor to get finger banged for “Female Hysteria”. Depends on which side of the equation you’re on, I guess.

    5. Tundra

      Give Mr. Zylon our best!

      And by best I mean punch him in the balls.

    1. Rhywun

      “These are my daughters!”

      /race owner

    2. AlmightyJB

      Daaaaaang

  30. I’m having a riding lawn mower delivered to my house… Freight.

    Being that I don’t have a loading dock or a forklift, that makes for a bit of an awkward situation. I’m gonna ask the delivery company whether they offer offloading for an additional fee, but I want to have a backup plan. Suggestions?

    1. Mad Scientist

      If you contact them before the mower leaves the local depot they can put it on a truck with a lift gate for a few dollars extra.

    2. spqr2008

      Request a delivery vehicle with a lift gate. It should be big enough to handle a ride on mower.

    3. Spudalicious

      It should be delivered in a bobtail with a lift and they’ll drop it at the curb, or on your driveway. Give them a call and confirm.

    4. Dr Mossy Lawn

      They should have lift-gate service available, at perhaps an extra fee. Not all of the trucks have the lift-gate. Otherwise if you have a regular trailer you can ask to pick it up at their depot for no extra fee and they will usually have a ramp to ground level.

      I have a pair of pallet forks that can clamp on my front end loader for just such occasions.

    5. Mad Scientist

      Or you can always buy a crane to A) get mower out of truck, and B) do this.

      1. Spudalicious

        Gotta love redneck ingenuity.

        1. Brett L

          “Meanwhile, in Florida”

    6. Awesome, sounds like I’ll just let them know it’s a residential delivery and I need a lift gate. They usually have a pallet truck or some other way of moving the crate onto the liftgate, I assume.

    7. Suthenboy

      Back up plan? Open the gate, unstrap the mower, put it in neutral, back the truck up real fast and then slam on the breaks. Easy Peasy.

      1. “and that’s how trashy pissed away $1700 in 30 seconds”

        1. Suthenboy

          Hey, I have unloaded firewood using that very technique. It works great.

      2. Spudalicious

        Do it over the lawn and it will be a much softer landing.

    8. Mad Scientist

      Open beer. Build a ramp out of a couple 2x8s. Drive mower from back of truck into back of pickup. Then from back of pickup to yard. Photograph each stage. Be sure you have your beer in your hand in each photo. Post here. Enjoy plaudits.

    9. You have no hills/banks to back up to?

      1. Nope, the curb is the highest part of my property. It uniformly slopes away from the street.

        1. Flatlanders *shakes head*

          1. Not so much that it’s flat, more that the property is on the side of a hill.

    10. AlmightyJB

      If you roll your mower on it’s back and start it up it becomes a helicopter.

      1. I tried that with the last one, there’s a reason I’m buying a new one…

        1. AlmightyJB

          Try it again but in reverse this time.

  31. Gadfly

    So this is an interesting story I wasn’t aware of before now. Apparently about 10 years ago or so Guam held a referendum on the future of the island and limited the franchise in this referendum to people of indigenous ancestry. As Guam is a part of the US, they were sued for racial discrimination, and the case only finally finished up with a judgement that the losing party (Guam) would have to pay the legal fees of the challengers. Apparently Hawaii tried something similar a while back with elections for their Office of Hawaiian Affairs, and the case made it all the way to the Supreme Court before it was determined that this was not permissible.

    1. Suthenboy

      Guam, Puerto Rico, Hawaii…they want independence? What are the odds as soon as they get it they start screaming and demanding money?

      Fuck that.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      So the 9th said that was AOK. Color me surprised.

  32. Rhywun

    Another reason Harris is a shoo-in for the Dems – tech millions.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I had her and Beto near the top of the ticket but I’m wondering if Beto has already clowned his way out. Dudes an embarrassment. She’s going to be a strong candidate. Checks all the boxes.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Besides that she’s got the Hillary sociopathic quality that seems to succeed in the party.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Oh no doubt.

      2. Tundra

        Buttchug is gonna be dangerous. He’s gay and ‘reasonable’. Ordinarily I would always give the nod to dusky cooter over gay dude, but I think her past will crater her chances.

        1. AlmightyJB

          The media is going to gloss over her past. I really don’t think it’s going to be an issue for the primary.

        2. Rhywun

          Not if the Hive Mind decides to make her past go away.

        3. AlmightyJB

          Buttchug not promising a Rolls Royce in every driveway so not sure how he’s going to buy votes.

        4. prolefeed

          Ordinarily I would always give the nod to dusky cooter over gay dude, but I think her past will crater her chances.

          Considering who I married, “dusky cooter” is my preferred option.

          Not that I would ever use “dusky” or “cooter” in her presence, cause I like sleeping with her.

        5. Scruffy Nerfherder

          That’s a loose definition of reasonable.

          1. Tundra

            For us. For the ‘swing voter’ he’s not that scary. And gay.

    2. Suthenboy

      Free college for everyone. Free healthcare for everyone. Disenfranchising deplorables. Seizing the property of deplorables and distributing it to a reliable voting block. Ramping up eugenics. Giving the vote to illegals and felons. Taking back the crumbs. Trashing the first amendment. Trashing the second….oh hell, just trash the whole BOR. For that matter they want the whole constitution shit-canned. I see nothing to distinguish the Democrat party from Soviet Russia.

      I dont see how she can lose.

      1. AlmightyJB

        You forgot reparations. I’m assuming she’s all for UBI and the new green deal as well.

        1. Rhywun

          From what I can tell, she is for all of it.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Have you heard her in an interview? She’s almost as phony as Hillary with the exception of her laugh which seems even more contrived than Hillbot’s

          2. Rhywun

            Have you heard her in an interview?

            Good lord, no.

            I will probably never hear her speak until she’s debating Trump next year.

          3. AlmightyJB

            Yeah I don’t want to hear her talk either. I could put that mouth to good use though.

          4. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

            Even better. I’ve seen her in person. She presided at my wife’s citizenship ceremony. She (Kamala) looked good in her leather skirt, and her speech was ok. It probably was a version of the speech she’ll give on the campaign trail about how her mother was an immigrant from India and her father was from Jamaica, and look what I’ve become, blah, blah, blah.

        2. Suthenboy

          “You forgot reparations”

          —> Seizing the property of deplorables and distributing it to a reliable voting block.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Word

          2. Sean

            *opens tin of 7N6 and starts loading mags*

            Oh, I’ll help with distribution…

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The article makes the very good point that Silicon Valley is no longer a manufacturing center, but is now a bunch of media and information whores. Thus cementing their shift away from free market principles and limited government.

      1. Rhywun

        Yep. They are 100% in the tank for Democrats – and buying up media like crazy in order to control it even more.

  33. Raven Nation

    In case folks aren’t reading upthread on the college admissions thing & why the feds are involved: Some of the bribes were disguised as charitable deductions. Then some of the geniuses claimed the deductions on their tax forms. So now the IRS is involved.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I get that aspect. It’s the other conspiracy charges I find unreasonable.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, big mistake.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The IRS has got them by the short and curlies

        1. AlmightyJB

          That’s how a a lot of bad guys have gone down. They outsourced all their murder and mayham but didn’t pay their taxes. Oops. Uncle Sam gonna get his cut or else.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            People seem to forget that the IRS has far more legal tools than your typical DA. You are effectively guilty by default.

    3. Sure, but if I buy a table saw from Home Depot and claim it as a business expense when it’s for my personal use*, the IRS may have a bitch but I haven’t defrauded Home Depot or otherwise injured anyone.

      * I have not done this.

      1. Suthenboy

        I worked for the state of Louisiana. It’s almost impossible to get fired. I saw people get away with nearly murder on a regular basis but the one unforgivable sin is theft. Steal so much as a paperclip and they let the hammer down on you.
        These people ‘stole’ from the state. Off with their heads.

      2. one true athena

        It’s more accurate to say that you get into an arrangement with a guy where a table saw will disappear from the store, in exchange for your contribution to his ‘charitable foundation’ which you know is bogus because the money is going to bribe the Home Depot security guard to look the other way. And then you take the saw home AND you deduct it from your taxes.

        The thing with this conspiracy is that it wasn’t openly buying an admission slot. It was buying someone else to create a slot for you to end run the actual purchase process.

        1. So the school wasn’t getting paid the tuition for these kids? what you’re describing is theft, a roundabout manner but theft, as far as I know after being accepted these kids, or rather their parent were paying their admissions.

    4. Raven Nation

      I was simply responding to the question raised yesterday and today as to why/how this was a criminal instead of a civil matter. Since there was tax fraud involved, it became a federal criminal matter. This in no way means I agree with this, I was just pointing out what I understood to be the mechanism whereby a door was opened for criminal charges to filed.

      1. Spudalicious

        They just got nailed with money laundering, too.

  34. l0b0t

    I really enjoyed the Double Negative stout from Grimm in Brooklyn and was excited to see their Jam Don’t Shake Imperial milk stout with peanut butter and raspberries at my local beer jobber. Not bad but I don’t like it as much as I thought I would; the raspberries add a (to my taste) cloying sweetness. But, at 17% ABV, I’m gonna finish it.

  35. Sean

    The Tick season 2 has dropped. Episode 1 is off to a good start. ?

    1. LJW

      They brought the tick back?

      1. Sean

        Amazon. Live action. ??

        1. LJW

          Oh it’s live action now. I have prime and had no idea.

          1. Sean

            It’s quite good. Check it out.

        2. l0b0t

          Patrick Warburton or someone else?

          1. Sean

            That version was seinfeld-esque and decent. This one has Peter Serafinowicz (?) nailing the part.

          2. True. I had forgotten who was portraying him now. Interesting to see how big that guy is – you don’t really get that impression from some of his UK flicks.