Wednesday Afternoon Salad Spinner of Fuck Links

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SP, sitting at her computer: WTF?! Why isn’t this [REDACTED] financial software working properly?!

[REDACTED] Software: Enter your state ID number. 

SP: I don’t HAVE a state ID number.

[REDACTED] Software: *blinking cursor*

SP: *looks up State Agency website to confirm she has no state ID number*

SP, typing: Ah! The State Agency website claims that it uses the federal ID number. I’ll try entering that. 

[REDACTED] Software: Invalid number format.

SP: *tries entering the federal ID number 16 different ways* 

[REDACTED] Software: Invalid number format. (x 16)

SP: *bangs head down on desk*

A momentary pause occurs, while SP proceeds from her office to the liquor cabinet and pours a shot, or maybe two, of Basil Hayden Dark Rye that SugarFree brought her as a hostess gift, because he understands etiquette and has exquisite manners, and is a man of taste and refinement.

SP: *phones [REDACTED] Software Tech Support because their chat isn’t working- THANKS A LOT Mercury Retrograde!- and waits on hold for 43 minutes*

SP: *may or may not pour (lots) more rye while waiting, she will neither confirm nor deny*

SP, finally on the phone with [REDACTED] Software Tech Support: Hello. Your software says I need a state ID number, but the State Agency’s website has assured me it uses the federal ID number. Of course, that doesn’t work, it’s the wrong format, and, in fact, even the wrong number of digits to fit in your form.

[REDACTED] Software Tech Support: That’s incorrect. You MUST have a state ID number. Here is the phone number of the State Agency that can issue you the state ID number. I can’t do anything else for you until you have that number.

SP, sighing: Thanks for all your “assistance.”

[REDACTED] Software Tech Support: Have a nice day!

SP: *calls the State Agency because they have never even HEARD of chat and waits on hold for 37 minutes*

SP, finally on the phone with the drone from the State Agency: Hello. [REDACTED] Software claims it needs a state ID number to be able to process my [REDACTED]. They “helpfully” provided your phone number so I can talk to you and get a state ID number.

State Agency drone: That’s incorrect. We don’t require a state ID number; we just use the federal ID number.

SP: So, I don’t have a state ID number in my account and I don’t need one, correct?

State Agency drone: That’s correct. You…waaaaait a minute. Let me talk to my supervisor. *places SP back on hold*

SP: *definitely pours more rye*

State Agency drone: Are you still there? Oh, good. I usually lose people. Well, it turns out you DO have a state ID number, after all! It’s right here in a field in my database, but you can’t find that part from your account.

SP: Excellent! What’s my state ID number?

State Agency drone: I can’t give it out over the phone. You’ll receive a letter at your corporate headquarters in 14-21 business days.

SP: YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! Can you email it to the address in my account? 

State Agency drone: Welllllllll, let me check with my supervisor.

SP: Please, don’t put me on hol…

State Agency drone: *places SP on hold*

SP: *relocates the Basil Hayden to her desk to save steps*

State Agency drone: Are you still there? Good news! I’ve gotten special permission to give you the number via email! Have a nice day!

SP: THANK YOU! That’s fantastic! *checks email and copies the state ID number enclosed*

[REDACTED] Software: Enter your state ID number. 

SP: Well, here you go! *triumphantly pastes in state ID number*

[REDACTED] Software: According to State Agency’s records attached to this state ID number, you are exempt from this provision. Have a nice day! 

SP: *opens second bottle of rye, turns off computer, turns on music*

 

 

 

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317 responses to “Wednesday Afternoon Salad Spinner of Fuck Links”

  1. Certified Public Asshat

    This sounds like me at work everyday.

    *weeps softly*

    1. You get Basil Hayden Dark Rye at work?!?!?!

      1. Tonio

        [golf clap]

        Yeah, it’s that kind of day, here, too.

      2. Certified Public Asshat

        Sadly no, just water.

        The worst was when I worked in public accounting; calling the IRS for a client. The perk of now being a corporate tax drone is there isn’t much of a need now to call the IRS.

        Anyway, IRS of course requires a power of attorney after being on hold for 30-60 minutes. Me: “I have it right here all signed, can I fax it to you now so we can speak?” IRS: Yes. Me: Ok, the fax machine is down the hall, I’ll be right back.

        So I run the 100ish yds to the fax machine and fax it over to the rube at the IRS. By the time I get back to my phone, the asshole has hung up. I’d like to say this only happened once, but no, at least every 1 in 4 calls to the IRS would go this way.

        1. Don’t you know, you’re not allowed to put the IRS on hold?

    2. R C Dean

      You mean, this part?

      State Agency drone: Are you still there? Oh, good. I usually lose people. Well, it turns out you DO have a state ID number, after all! It’s right here in a field in my database, but you can’t find that part from your account.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        It blows my mind that states don’t use the FEIN for their own numbers.

        Even states that do, like TX add a number in front and then another at the end. NJ will use the FEIN, but then tack on three 0’s to it.

    3. Playa Manhattan

      What do you use?
      Lacerte?

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        When I was in public it was CCH Axcess. Now it is all Thomson Reuter’s shit.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          “Let’s get down to the most important part of this: your licensing fees”

          1. Playa Manhattan

            My dad was a partner at EY, and part of their agreement with Intuit was that family members get a free copy of Pro Series.

            20% of doing my taxes was getting the software activated.

  2. SP Links are always grand links.

    Sorry for your interactions with idiot software people and brain dead state workers.

    1. SP

      Thank you, Swiss. You have been elevated to my Favorite since SugarFree so heartlessly stole my link!

      I need to edit my narrative above.

      1. bacon-magic

        But the rye…

    2. Gustave Lytton

      There were links?? I got lost in the narrative.

  3. Old Man With Candy

    Arizona: Open for business!

    1. Playa Manhattan

      She kept 3 people employed with that conversation alone!

  4. A Leap at the Wheel

    So I just finished reading Diamond Age. I don’t know why I waited so long. Its a great book. And holy crap, if that’s the most conservative piece of fiction I’ve ever read, I don’t know what is.

    I’m going to pick the brain of my Stephenson loving, intelligent, thoughtful, introspective, highly educated, bubble dwelling friend about it and see if he picked up on any of it. I know for a fact he doesn’t know what anarchocapitalism, so I’m guessing not.

    1. Psycho Effer

      I’ve been woefully lacking in reading Stephenson. Maybe I’ll start this once I’ve done with UCS’s latest book, which I just got on Kindle.

      1. tarran

        Just avoid Seveneves. It’s so awful that I stopped reading halfway through and deleted it from my kindle. Subsequently, I took a look at the plot summary in Wikipedia and it confirmed that I had made the right decision. It’s a horrible book that publishers would have given a hard pass on had it been submitted by a first-time author.

        1. Rhywun

          I liked it. *shrugs*

    2. Tundra

      I like it better than Snow Crash. Even without the attractive messages, it’s a helluva good story.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        I get very uncomfortable any time media compliments my priors, because frankly a lot of the best books, movies, and music out there are written by people who hold world views that I find detestable (and they would feel the same about me, I’m sure.) I know too many intelligent, thoughtful, introspective, highly educated folks who live in a bubble, and I want to avoid that almost more than anything.

        I’d much rather read something great and just a bit tilted off my moral compass like Wizards of Earthsea or Elric than something great and comfortable.

        But I’ll put Stephenson next to Heinlein in that special place on my shelf where its ok to like their work *and* their worldviews.

        1. Tundra

          I roll my eyes a lot when listening to some of my favorite music. It’s just the way it is. I’ve largely given up finding a double-digit number of artists with something even approximating my world view.

          It does make books like that even more special, though.

          1. I read a lot of works written by someone who exactly shares my worldview and opinions on everything.

          2. Tundra

            Braggart. I have half a book left and then it’s on to your new one.

          3. You set up the snark so well, I couldn’t help it.

      2. Count Potato

        I loved Snow Crash. I couldn’t finish Diamond Age.

        1. Rhywun

          I think Diamond Age careens a little bit out of control near the end, but damn if I don’t absolutely love everything before that.

  5. A familiar tale.

    Are you sure you’re in Arizona and not New York?

    1. AlexinCT

      Government drones all come from the same factory…

    2. SP

      Having grown up in NYS and having owned my first business there, the similarities are not lost on me.

  6. Pope Jimbo

    Not first because I took the time to read the articles.

    (I figure that sort of etiquette is cheaper than buying top shelf booze like Mr Moneybags SF and is just as appreciated by SP)

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      You are either massively undervaluing good booze, or massively overvaluing yourself. Having met you, I’m at a loss for how you could do either.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        It is impossible to undervalue any booze that does not belong to you and that you have no chance of sharing in.

        It is impossible to overvalue me. It is known.

    2. SP

      I do appreciate it. If it’s true.

  7. ChipsnSalsa

    Got that taken care of pretty quick for having a state agency involved.

    “Can’t give it to you over the phone”? Sometimes I think rules are setup as a big social experiment to see what it takes to make people snap.

    1. SP

      We shall see. I expect a letter telling me that was a mistake and there is now a penalty.

      1. AlexinCT

        Penaltax?

    2. Certified Public Asshat

      The thing is, she could have hung up, called back and depending on who picks up the phone you get a different answer.

      1. Depending on the help desk, that just generates a trail of tickets which show you’re fishing for a different answer.

        1. SP

          LOLOLOLOL They can barely answer the phone. And my last name is not very unusual, yet, they can never seem to spell it correctly.

          1. Well, maybe not this helpdesk, but I’ve worked on some where looking for that sort of behaviour is part of the procedure we’re supposed to follow. (Along with checking recent tickets to see what else has been going on with the user)

          2. You were talking about getting a new computer, weren’t you? Looks like you got one from Britain.

          3. BakedPenguin

            “Have you tried turning it off and on again?”

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        You don’t think the state has a state-of-the-art call center management system that keeps and easy-to-read log of recent call and annotations with semantic and intention analysis recordings of those calls?

        Thats crayz.

      3. SP

        That was LAST month. Four people in the same agency told me four different things.

        1. AlexinCT

          Knowing what the fuck you are supposed to to do your job not required when working a gubmint job.

          1. It’s not?

            I’ve been doing something wrong.

      4. PBRstreetgang

        Hell, you could call back, get the SAME person, and still get a different answer.

  8. My retirement plan changed my user login in an notified me in an email with a very spammy title, so of course I never read the email.

  9. Psycho Effer

    I think the word “motherfucker!” would have been used about 20 times during those conversations had I been in your shoes.

    1. You would not have gotten special dispensation to email you you state ID.

      You’d get malicious compliance. Have fun waiting 14-21 business days.

      1. SP

        Exactly this. The key is to be nice and play dumb and throw yourself on the bureaucrat’s mercy.

        1. Psycho Effer

          I would have put the phone on mute, of course. 🙂

  10. Stinky Wizzleteats

    “Do not tweet”

    Watching the moderate Dems and the purist leftists have it out is funny to say the least. Thank God us libertarians don’t engage in that kind of unseemly behavior.

    1. Tonio

      As a former federal law enforcement agent who dealt with child trafficking, Spanberger said she was horrified that a fellow Democrat would compare members of his own party to child abusers, according to multiple people in the room.

      In the early 2000s, Spanberger worked as a federal postal inspector on money laundering cases, as well as intercepting shipments of illegal drugs into the United States.[7]
      In 2006, Spanberger joined the Central Intelligence Agency as an operations officer. She worked overseas on classified matters of national security that included intelligence gathering on terrorism and nuclear proliferation.

      Nope, nothing about child trafficking in your Wikipedia bio, Congresswoman. Also, ex-CIA isn’t exactly the best moral high ground to stake out.

      She positively reeks of smugness.

      1. Chipwooder

        Oh dear god do I hate that woman. On the plus side, she will be a tossup at best to keep the seat in 2020.

      2. Ever since the Deep State started going after Trump, TEAM BLUE thinks the CIA is moral high ground.

        1. Akira

          That’s the really disappointing thing – the Left has abandoned what principles they may have had at one point.

          I remember during the Iraq War, my family members would rage at CNN for helping sell the lies that got us into that war and pumping up the pro-state narrative. Nowadays, they think the only people who question CNN are tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs who listen to Alex Jones.

    2. slumbrew

      Fuck off, Tulpa.

  11. Tundra

    Dang, SP, these are brilliantly presented lynx. You are gifted.

    The group of thieves stole at least three guns and an unknown amount of other valuables from mostly unlocked cars, according to police.

    Criminal masterminds.

    1. Raston Bot

      If it wasn’t for dickheads like you, there wouldn’t be any thievery in this world, would there?

      /Gunnery Sergeant Hartman

      1. Chipwooder

        “Let’s just see if anything’s missing!” *dumps contents of footlocker*

        That scene was 100% accurate. DIs absolutely will fuck you up if you leave your footlocker unlocked.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I saw that movie at a theater just off base and when Gunny Hartman sees the unlocked footlocker, the whole place started hooting because we all knew what was coming next.

        2. Fourscore

          At OCS we had to leave our foot lockers unlocked and ready for inspection. Surprisingly nothing was ever stolen but the contents would have been inspected via swagger stick + 3 demerits. Since anything valuable was forbidden there wasn’t much to steal.

          “Foot locker not prepared for inspection”

    2. Tonio

      Yes, that was clever.

  12. ChipsnSalsa

    “So, again, you got a complaint? You come and talk to me about it,” Pelosi told Democrats, according to a source in the room. “But do not tweet about our members and expect us to think that that is just ok.”

    Remain calm, all is well! ALL IS WELL!

  13. pistoffnick

    Old Lonesome George is still rocking. He is playing the casino circuit this summer.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I saw him at the House of Blues in LA back in ’95.

      He looked half dead then, I can’t imagine how he’s survived until now.

    2. Chipwooder

      My first-ever concert. Tagged along with my dad and three of my uncles when I was ten years old. Heavy, heavy biker presence in the audience.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Heavy, heavy biker presence in the audience.

        Lots of spandex then?

        1. Chipwooder

          *golf clap*

        2. Tundra

          I sort of understand the spandex, but why all the ‘sponsors’ on the jerseys. I know for a fact my chubby neighbor has exactly zero sponsors, but he’s festooned with mini billboards every time he rolls out.

          It’s weird.

          1. Tonio

            Because they want to pretend they are members of a sponsored team. I have exactly one cycling jersey which I only bought because it has a bear on it. But then again I’m not a skinny-tire puke (road cyclist).

          2. TARDIS

            It looks like somebody puked on their uniforms.

          3. Private Chipperbot

            I want to add the stupid billboard plate to my helmet and sponsor our local brewery.

          4. Chipwooder

            Oh dear lord those are the worst. Seizure inducing.

          5. Rhywun

            You know somebody in the NHL wants to make that happen.

        3. Tonio

          Ha!

        4. Playa Manhattan

          Yeah, and they blocked the road out front

      2. prairieboy

        Saw him in 1982 in Calgary. The whole front of the arena was lined up with bikes and bikers in their colours. He played for three hours and every five minutes a new biker chick was on the stage flashing her tits before being tossed back into the audience. My buddy and I were on four hits of purple mic acid each–bizarre night of slide guitar, sax, smelly fucking bikers dancing like elfs, and pancake tits. Still disturbed to this day

    3. SP

      I knew George way back in the days before anyone outside the Wilmington/Philly area had heard of him. Always fun to hang with. (Yes, I’m old.)

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t think they’re talking about Curious George.

        1. Tundra

          *rousing applause*

        2. Chipwooder

          What about Bi-Curious George?

      2. Chipwooder

        Yes, I’m old

        So the divorce papers from OMWC are coming any day now, I take it.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          It is all relative. OMWC is super fucking old, so SP is a child bride for him.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Coincidentally, “Super Fucking” is my nickname.

          2. Chipwooder

            OM”SF”WC?

          3. Pope Jimbo

            Are you sure SP wasn’t mocking you about being a lazy lout and called you Sofa King?

          4. Spudalicious

            You forgot the “Asshole” at the end of that.

  14. We already knew Polis was a piece of shit, now we know he’s a moronic piece of shit.

  15. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Now imagine filing state sales taxes for myriad states as a small e-commerce vendor on a monthly basis.

    It’s basically that process multiplied .

  16. Basil Hayden Dark Rye

    I prefer Basil Dearden.

  17. Sean

    Now I’m hungry for some roasted chiles.

  18. ChipsnSalsa

    “The law is the law,” Dunwoody police spokesman Sgt. Robert Parsons told AJC.com. “You need to turn in the property. It doesn’t belong to you. Reality needs to kick in, and you need to realize this money belongs to someone.”

    Cool, now do civil forfeiture.

  19. Gustave Lytton

    NZ Justice minister whining about not being evil. Go shove a rusty chainsaw up your sheep fucked ass, you slimy mendacious gun grabbing asshole.

    1. Raston Bot

      which link was that?

    2. Rhywun

      Right? Don’t make me side with [redacted] Google.

  20. Gustave Lytton

    Spanberger said she was horrified that a fellow Democrat would compare members of his own party to child abusers

    Why? Your whole ideology is based upon abusing children and everyone else.

    1. Mad Scientist

      But they’re not supposed to SAY so!

  21. AlexinCT

    Well done…

    At least there will not be any videos of you busting monitors with your keyboard on YouTube SP…

      1. AlexinCT

        Is that safe for work?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Not safe for humans, but safe for work.

      2. slumbrew

        That looks more like Tonio

        1. Tonio

          …engaging in foreplay.

      3. Tundra

        Those are scary fast animals. A dude I know got chomped pretty bad last year and his story was terrifying.

      4. grrizzly

        There are two black bears–they’re brothers–in the local zoo. Once I saw them standing on their hind legs and boxing each other.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          That sounds uniquely Russian.

          1. grrizzly

            Black bears live only in America!

          2. Not Adahn

            “Bears of Color,” please.

      5. Dude needs to work on his ground game.

  22. Juvenile Bluster

    Louisiana’s going to get hit by a hurricane (or a strong tropical storm) this week. Since this has never happened in the past, I blame global warming.

    1. AlexinCT

      Is the mayor telling people there is no need to evacuate and that all is well?

    2. Just in time for this weekend’s trip to NOLA. Sheesh! I haven’t been there since 2003. What’s the universe trying to tell me?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That NOLA sucks?

        1. Well it doesn’t appear to drain.

          1. Private Chipperbot

            N.O. will be fine. This is just going to freshen the stagnant water in the rest of the state.

        2. Tundra

          New Orleans Is Sinking

          And I don’t wanna swim…

          1. pistoffnick

            Under rated band.

          2. Tundra

            Not in Canada 😉

            Here’s another gem.

      2. Chipwooder

        New Orleans in July…..that’s a particularly, um, pungent time to visit.

    3. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      I guess blaming this stuff on El Nino is so 90’s

      (I don’t know how to put the tilday, nor do I know how to spell tilday)

      1. BakedPenguin

        & ntilde ; (no spaces) should work. ñ

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          *nods politely*

          1. Til de do us part

    4. Akira

      Since this has never happened in the past, I blame global warming.

      I’m sure there will be bold pronouncements that it’s the worst storm ever captured on weather radar since the invention of weather radar.

  23. Tonio

    “I was assigned to some of the busiest committees and four subcommittees,” AOC said. “So my hands are full. And sometimes I wonder if they’re trying to keep me busy.”

    Oh, you poor dear. But we all know that if you hadn’t been loaded down with committee assignments that you’d have bitched about being sidelined. Whiners gonna whine.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      God forbid she should do the job instead of just virtue signaling.

      1. Chipwooder

        Her job ISN’T sick burns on Twitter?

    2. AlexinCT

      Attention whore: see Karla Marx…

    3. PBRstreetgang

      So they are asking to do her job? Monsters

    4. I LOVE this. Seven years ago if you’d told me I would be defending President (!?!?!?) Trump AND cheering for Nancy Pelosi I would’ve never believed you.

    5. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      How do you out juvenile President Trump?

      Alex Trebek: That’s good for $200. Pick again

    6. Grumbletarian

      The follow-up line is also telling.

      The New York lawmaker had been describing why she declined Pelosi’s offer to sit on a standing committee on climate change. AOC said she declined the Speaker’s offer after she had refused AOC’s demands for what the committee should do.

      “Here’s my pet list of what this committee should really be focusing on!”

      “If you want the committee working on that, then take a seat on the committee.”

      “HELL NO!”

  24. TARDIS

    Whew! That was a lot of lynx. I’m exhausted now and need a drink.

  25. Valentina Cortese, 1923-2019

    Cortese starred in a small number of Hollywood films, with The Barefoot Contessa probably being the best known of those. She was nominated for a Best Supporting Actress Oscar for her delightful turn as an actress who has trouble with her lines in François Truffaut’s Day for Night.

    1. Cortese lost to Ingrid Bergman in Murder on the Orient Express, which really was a small role for Bergman and a surprise that she’d win. But in her acceptance speech, Bergman paid one of the kindest compliments one could pay to Cortese.

  26. Juvenile Bluster

    TODAY IN QUALIFIED IMMUNITY

    http://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/files/201715566.pdf

    Fugitive happens to go onto property where kids are playing

    Cop holds the kids at gunpoint for some reason.

    Kids’ dog comes onto property

    Cop tries to shoot dog. He misses, dog runs under house.

    Dog comes out from under house, cop tries to shoot dog, HE MISSES AGAIN, but hits one of the kids in the leg this time.

    […]

    Qualified Immunity!

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’d shoot the cop. They’re not immune to bullets yet.

    2. slumbrew

      Jesus, what a POS.

    3. Chipwooder

      JB, please, let’s keep the most important issue in mind – did he get home safely that night?

    4. Old Man With Candy

      If that cop got shot and died a slow, horrible death, I’d be delighted to piss on his corpse.

    5. Juvenile Bluster

      The dissent was good though. First paragraph thereof:

      The majority accurately points out that qualified immunity protects “all but the plainly incompetent.” Maj. Op. at 10 (quoting Malley v. Briggs, 475 U.S. 335, 341 (1986)). Because no competent officer would fire his weapon in the direction of a nonthreatening pet while that pet was surrounded by children, qualified immunity should not protect Officer Vickers. Therefore, I dissent.

      1. Grumbletarian

        Boom. Headshot.

      2. Chafed

        Thankfully some judges can see reality.

    6. Count Potato

      How did we reach the point where the average cop makes Barney Fife seem like John McClane?

      I’ve had zero police training, and I think I could have done a better job, drunk, with a live squirrel glued to my balls.

      1. Tundra

        Oddly specific, dude. Were you in a frat?

        1. Juvenile Bluster

          Don’t kink shame, man.

      2. Spudalicious

        A friend of mine is retired out of LAPD. Every time I see him, he’s shaking his head at what passes for law enforcement these days.

    7. R C Dean

      If I’m the father, and some cop is out in MY yard shooting at MY dog and MY kids, I’m probably going to kill him and take my chances with the jury.

      Frankly, under the law of self-defense, any passerby would be justified in killing this cop, But the father has the best chance of getting acquitted.

  27. Private Chipperbot

    Nice links!

    I picture SP as the Panda

  28. JG43

    Wow that sounds like the time I unbundled my internet and Dish from Frontier. Took over a month and two separate FCC complaints to get rid of DSL from them which I couldn’t use since I moved too far from the switch.

  29. Scruffy Nerfherder
    1. Count Potato

      I think that’s for anyone.

  30. Count Potato

    “SugarFree brought her as a hostess gift, because he understands etiquette and has exquisite manners, and is a man of taste and refinement.”

    I did hear his skull collection is extremely well-organized.

  31. wdalasio

    SP, I feel for you. That sounds like a pretty miserable way to spend a day.

    1. Sean

      She was at home, drinking bourbon. It could have been worse.

    2. Just the most recent of many, many similar days since relocating to AZ. It’s a very business-friendly state…if one has a phalanx of attorneys and accountants. Oh, and bribe money.

  32. Certified Public Asshat

    I don't represent large corporations and I don't want their money.— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) July 10, 2019

    His tax policy says otherwise.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Literally all of his policies from opposition to vouchers to “free” college stinks like giveaways to the richest people in America. Which to be fair, is the modern Democratic Party’s base

    2. Chipwooder

      “I don’t want their money – I want YOUR money, Mr and Mrs Taxpayer!”

  33. SugarFree

    I never visit out-of-staters without bringing along bourbon: Rowan’s Creek, Noah’s Mill, Basil Hayden and Johnny Drum Private Stock are my go-tos.

    I’m Johnny Bourbon-Seed, planting a little bit of Kentucky wherever I go.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Re-write that in twang

    2. slumbrew

      Except you brought rye… (which is, of course, superior).

      1. SugarFree

        I visited them before. And I thought the Dark Rye would be particular interest due to their appreciation of wine. The double ticket rye (sold straight as Basil Hayden Double Rye) is smoothed out with a touch of port in the Dark Rye version.

        1. slumbrew

          *adds to shopping list*

          1. slumbrew

            Boo – local does not have any sort of Basil Hayden rye

        2. R C Dean

          Just added the Dark Rye to my online order at Total Wine. Thankee, sirrah.

          1. SugarFree

            It was a big hit with everyone that tried it. I hope it goes the same for you.

          2. R C Dean

            I’ll see how it measures up to home barrel-aged Bulleit and report back.

            Might be worth seasoning a barrel with port to see how it plays.

    3. B.P.

      A fan of the Willett stuff, I see.

      1. Spudalicious

        I love Willett rye.

      2. SugarFree

        I only leave out Williet’s itself due to the awkwardness of packing the bottle for flight.

        1. Spudalicious

          If you have not tried the Willett 3 yo rye, you owe yourself a favor.

          1. SugarFree

            Yeah, that is delicious.

    4. Spudalicious

      Noah’s Mills is a favorite of mine.

    1. slumbrew

      He looks damn good for 104.

      1. Count Potato

        True. Well, that and he hasn’t been decomposing for 30 years.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Icelandic privilege

      *smh*

    3. SugarFree

      Which probably makes him related to the entire island.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      6 generations of icelanders? That is a lot of bjorking going on.

    5. whiz

      Hmm, he might be more proud if he was a new father…

    6. leon

      Pfftt. I’ve Met Great Great Great Grandmas in their 60’s.

  34. Private Chipperbot

    Are we saving or destroying things that remind us of racial segregation?

    To get a federally backed loan, the developer approached the FHA a second time and proposed building a six-feet high, one-foot thick wall, perpendicular to Eight Mile, with blacks living on the east side and the new “white” neighborhood to live on the west side. The FHA agreed to the compromise, Van Dusen wrote. It was built just south of Eight Mile to Pembroke Avenue, between Birwood and Mendota streets.

    I’m curious how it’s different from a statue or whatever. If people can learn from this why can’t they learn from other monuments?

    1. Rhywun

      “This conversation is probably long overdue about the unjust, unfair way people are treated because of the color of their skin.”

      Yeah, you don’t hear much about that these days.

  35. Cacciatore

    Too much work to find the links in all of this. Did a bunch of volunteer work today. I’m sure none of it mattered; since only the government can help people, duh.

  36. Gustave Lytton

    What’s wrong with AZ that they leave firearms in their unattended vehicles? I usually don’t lock my truck at home but I don’t leave guns inside either.

    1. Tundra

      Yeah I would never leave a gun in the car. I always lock up and I took the garage door opener out of my truck. Little fuckheads do just as the story describes – comb a neighborhood and check for unlocked cars and/or openers.

      I fucking hate thieves.

      1. Spudalicious

        Better than leaving them in your boat. That’s when disasters happen.

        1. R C Dean

          *stares into distance. single manly tear rolls down cheek*

    2. R C Dean

      What’s wrong with AZ

      Don’t ask me, I’ve only lived here 6 years.

  37. grrizzly

    #metoo is not slowing down.
    Harvard suspends star economist Roland Fryer following sexual harassment complaints

    Harvard on Wednesday suspended the prominent economist Roland G. Fryer Jr. for two years without pay and shut down his lab after an investigation found he engaged in unwelcome sexual conduct with multiple women in his lab.

    The punishment derails the career of a scholar who, at 30, became the youngest African-American to receive tenure at Harvard. Fryer was also awarded a MacArthur “Genius” grant and the John Bates Clark Medal, given by the American Economic Association to the best American economist under age 40.

    1. Tundra

      Why does an economist need a lab?

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        To sexually assault women

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            This is also why Austrian economists never get caught up in #metoo. They don’t need no laboratories. Praxeology, bitches

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Because he likes to hunt ducks?

        Yeah, I would have guessed that an economist would have had a pointer.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          That’s precisely the problem

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Problem? What the lab humped his assistant’s leg?

          2. Playa Manhattan

            He stuck his pointer where it didn’t belong…. er…. where it was unwelcome.

      3. BakedPenguin

        To cook up the drugs necessary to understand Krugman?

        1. Count Potato

          Trust me, there aren’t drugs strong enough.

          1. Spudalicious

            That’s why Winston’s mom looks that way.

      4. Tulip

        Experimental economics! My area!

      1. Drake

        Dammit. All these articles are paywalled.

        1. R C Dean

          I think you mean “Thank God, the NYT is paywalled.”

          Its better that way, really.

    2. Drake

      “complaints”? Not proof, or convictions, or preponderance of evidence?

      So a couple of women can destroy anyone in their general vicinity on a whim.

      1. whiz

        It sounds like it was more than a couple and goes back a decade.

        From an article in USA Today, “Among his most controversial papers: a study that concluded there’s no racial bias in shootings by police.”

      2. Rhywun

        I’m sure if he’s cleared, everything will go back to normal for him. Don’t worry about it.

    1. mikey

      Too late this mornng to comment on the BaT links.
      The Appollo was cool. For me it’s a hometown car. Thery were built in Oakland and I saw several on the road back in the day.
      If I could only choose one type car for my dream garage it would be 50’s and 60’s Alfas. Had a cousin who dumped a boyfriend claiming he loved his Alfa more than he loved her. I could see his point.

      1. Tundra

        The world needs more boutique manufacturers. It is frankly staggering how many car companies existed in the early to mid-20th century.

        Oh, and your car is the one I want in my dream garage – parked next to the Alfa Spider and probably a Lotus.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      That’s discrimination against the undocumented. But, he’s unpopular so naturally that’s different for reasons

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Not to worry. Despite being defeated in a statewide ballot measure a couple years ago, the legislature went ahead and overturned the ban on issuing state driver licenses to illegal aliens and did the usual declaration of emergency clause so it can’t be referred to voters prior to going into effect.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          “wHy aRE pEOpLe VOtiNg fOR nAtiONaLisTs?”

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Maybe you should post this story all around your city.

          All three states [Utah, Vermont and Washington] — which offer driving privileges to immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally — agreed to the ICE requests, according to documents shared with The Associated Press on Monday and first reported by The Washington Post .

          “States asked undocumented people to come out of the shadows to get licenses. Then ICE turns around and uses that to find them,” Alvaro Bedoya, the center’s director, said Monday.

          Of course, the ninnies are pissed because it is being used against illegal immigrants. No word is said about the fact that the Feds are also mining facial recognition data for legal citizens as well.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            agreed to the ICE requests

            Fuck that. Armed raid just before opening with documents and servers removed for safekeeping. Oh, can’t transact business today? Too fucking bad.

            (But lesson of getting fucked over by thug law enforcement would be completely lost)

          2. R C Dean

            “States asked undocumented people to come out of the shadows to get licenses. Then ICE turns around and uses that to find them,”

            Gosh, who could have seen that coming? Idiots.

            the Feds are also mining facial recognition data for legal citizens as well

            Well, those pics are government info. I don’t think there’s any Constitutional bar against the feds using it. Hell, when I got fingerprinted for my state bar license and my state concealed carry license, I had zero expectation those prints weren’t going into a federal database as well.

    2. Tonio

      Oregon refuge occupier Jason Patrick on Tuesday presented a federal judge with a yellow carbon copy of his temporary Oregon driver’s license ID, satisfying the court’s order to obtain government-issued identification.

      They are still using those forms in twenty effing nineteen?

  38. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    https://twitter.com/LibertarianBlue/status/1148732059323703296

    “Incredible. Facebook says it’s ok to issue threats of death and violence against Paul @PrisonPlanet and other “dangerous individuals and organizations.”

    Ummm…..what?

    1. Chipwooder

      I think that might be fake. I went to the Facebook Community Standards page where this is supposedly spelled out and I couldn’t find it.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1148928544719933443

        Tim Pool is saying the same thing. Maybe they are not implemented yet?

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/1148733009018798081

          Mark Kern too. It’s possible that this is an elaborate hoax, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if this is real

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            https://twitter.com/NewsChute/status/1149026880236003328

            Now, apparently, Facebook has said that language was “imprecise” so maybe it was a mistake.

        2. Chipwooder

          That might be. All I know is I saw that posted at Ace of Spades, went to the Facebook Community Standards page, and couldn’t find it. Might be a draft or something.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Pretty disturbing draft. Pretty sure legal must have stepped in.

            Again, though, I got to say it’s amazing (and really revealing) how many people who definitely and totally (without a doubt) deeply truly care about “muh…freedom of association” seem to make real quick excuses for large tech companies regardless of how insane they behave, but struggled to ever whisper a slight dissent in support of a small private baker. Truly, these rules are being applied equally

          2. Chipwooder

            No disagreements there

          3. R C Dean

            Pretty sure legal must have stepped in.

            I haven’t gotten the impression that Facebook has a legal department at all, or if they do, that anyone cares what they say.

    2. Count Potato

      The story ran on numerous alternative outlets. Which doesn’t mean it’s true.

      But considering Paul Joseph Watson is suing Facebook, I doubt he would make up such a story.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      I’m sure all two minorities who live in Portland are really glad to hear another upper income white person play savior for them

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Bold strategy, Cotton

    3. Rhywun

      pledging a new administration that aligns with residents’ liberal sensibilities

      Uh…

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        In other words, a complete and total abandonment of the law as opposed to just a partial one

  39. Fight the power with Wanton Wednesday!

    http://archive.is/zB7Dr

    1. Chipwooder

      damn, that completely changed the shape of her face

      1. BakedPenguin

        I kind of don’t get it. I thought she looked fine in the “before” photo.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Yeah, totally would

    2. R C Dean

      That’s a filter? Because it looks like Photoshop. Took twenty pounds off of her. Didn’t know a filter could do that.

  40. ttyrant

    I don’t know why I found this so amusing, but I laughed at the representative from Georgia confusing LIBOR with Libra:

    After a brief preamble, in which Scott urged Powell to “stay strong and courageous” – maybe even join the #resistance, why not – as it is important for the world that the “Fed remain strongly independent” and both “democrats and republicans got your back”, he got right to business declaring that “this Libra business is really disturbing and it’s a serious problem. Let me tell you why…first of all, I think we all know, Libra is the London Interbank Offered Rate, very critical. It has and is the standard for the base rate for hundreds of trillions of dollars, both overnight and term loans, debt, derivatives; and it is the standard that has been used internationally and extensively in the United States, affecting individuals, small businesses, large corporations. So we got a big issue here.”

    “But because of pervasive manipulation, it is apparent that Libra is going to leave us, be removed within the next year or so” he droned on, clearly seeking to impress the world with his extensive Wikipedia-derived knowledge of a major transition in the overnight funding world, where SOFR is set to replace the current regime.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-10/wharton-grad-confuses-libor-and-libra-during-powell-hearing-hilarity-ensues

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Remember a couple of years back when it was discovered that LIBOR was being manipulated? Fun times.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        And now the representative from Georgia has his response for why SOFR is going to replace LIBOR (or Libra, if he prefers)

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Pepperidge Farm remembers

    2. Playa Manhattan

      I got deferred from Wharton. I guess I was lucky.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Won’t anyone think of the puppies and kitties and other pets? SAVE OUR VETS!

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. I was sure that would be a link about Trump’s VA not taking care of our veterans and them killing themselves.

        It really was about veteranarians though.

    2. Tundra

      t takes a passion for animals and a strong work ethic, she said. That drive helps young vets-to-be to ignore long hours that can affect a healthy work-life balance and student debt that can reach that of a mortgage. The average student loan debt of veterinarians was $167,000 in 2016, according to the American Veterinary Medical Association. Average starting salaries are between $70,000 and $80,000 annually. Some vets can even carry student loans of $250,000 – debt they’ll be paying back well into retirement.

      So you go to school for many years, take on a ton of debt and make less than a mediocre plumber. I think I’d be pretty damn depressed, too.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        It doesn’t end there either. Opening or buying a practice is another can of worms. Puts a lot of pressure to push products and procedures.

        1. Hyperion

          “Puts a lot of pressure to push products and procedures.”

          So, no different than with people doctors.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Veterinary school costs are absurd. What’s more absurd is thinking it’s a good idea to take that debt on.

        1. R C Dean

          Most states have a single vet school, if they have one at all. I think Texas may have two.

          I’m surprised they don’t make more money.

          1. Tulip

            Especially given what they charge and how hard it is to get an appointment

      3. pistoffnick

        I have a cousin who wanted to be a veterinarian.

        It was so expensive and so competitive that he became a general practice doctor instead.

    3. one true athena

      And DVM degrees are ~ 80% women. It’s the stat I love to throw at “more girls in STEM” freakout people. You want half the girls in vet school to not be allowed in, because guess what, princess, that’s what’s gonna happen if you pass these stupid laws you profess to want so you can force colleges to graduate 50% girls in Chemical Engineering.

  41. Remember when Team Red was gonna slash the deficit and get spending under control?

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/452045-make-americas-deficits-great-again

    Me neither.

    PS: It’s pretty rich when a lefty publication like The Hill concern trolls about the deficit; it’s just being spent on the wrong stuff by the wrong Team.

    1. Hyperion

      The UK are a test case in what NOT to do.

    2. slumbrew

      Did we already cover this?

      Internet group brands Mozilla ‘internet villain’ for supporting DNS privacy feature

      An industry group of internet service providers has branded Firefox browser maker Mozilla an “internet villain” for supporting a DNS security standard.

      The U.K.’s Internet Services Providers’ Association (ISPA), the trade group for U.K. internet service providers, nominated the browser maker for its proposed effort to roll out the security feature, which they say will allow users to “bypass UK filtering obligations and parental controls, undermining internet safety standards in the UK.”

      How dare Mozilla make it more secure for their users vs. making it easier for us to censor them. Right villains they are.

      1. Rhywun

        Despite claims to the contrary, a more private DNS would not prevent the use of content filtering or parental controls

        Make parents responsible?! Madness.

    1. BakedPenguin

      They should have had Tundra’s music on their iPhones.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Something as simple as a litter-clogged storm drain — like the one just outside her front door — is more than a little frustrating, and she feels the city and its residents should take more responsibility.

      So, take some responsibility and clean the drain just outside your door. Or is responsibility only for other people?

      1. Hyperion

        Not for other people, only for government, which is totally not people. Not more mortal people anyway, but all powerful and beneficent gods.

    3. Rhywun

      “I wish America would ban plastic,” he said. “Get wise and get rid of these plastic bottles and everything else that’s plastic.”

      Sounds like you have a litterbug problem more than a plastic problem. Believe it or not, there are parts of the world where tossing your garbage wherever you stand is frowned upon.

      1. Akira

        “Get wise and get rid of these plastic bottles and everything else that’s plastic.

        Why do they hate people with prosthetic organs?

      2. R C Dean

        You first. Get rid of everything you own that has plastic in it. Starting with your car.

    4. Mad Scientist

      “We’re such short-term thinkers.”

      Said the guy who imagines that banning plastic will solve his litter problem.

    5. commodious spittoon

      Something as simple as a litter-clogged storm drain — like the one just outside her front door — is more than a little frustrating, and she feels the city and its residents should take more responsibility

      It’s a shame she can’t do anything about it.

  42. creech

    NBC making big deal of the soccer “heroes” parade in NYC. Did anyone see the coverage? The parade looked “forced” or artificial or something strange, to me. Didn’t have the delirious watchers you see for, say, Super Bowl winners or astronauts. Spectators seemed more curious or something, and like they were being prodded to wave and cheer because it was expected …virtue signaling?….rather than spontaneous.

    1. Rhywun

      All I know is the ring-leader “dropped an F-bomb on live television”. I didn’t click through.

      Strange, I’ve attended a couple of those (NHL, NFL) when I worked on Broadway and I don’t remember them being televised.

    2. Akira

      Did they actually use the word “heroes”?

      I’m pretty damn sick of that word being applied to people who do something that has little to no risk of actually costing them anything.

    3. BakedPenguin

      Even at the final, they couldn’t help showing a lot of empty seats. You want ‘equal pay’ ladies? Fill up them seats and get better TV ratings.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Fundamentally, they can’t unless they find a different way to appeal to viewers.

        People pay to see someone do things that are at the extremes of human capabilities. The very best female athletes simply cannot do that in most sports. Gymnastics may be an exception for specific events

        1. slumbrew

          That Nike commercial they kept showing after they won includes: I believe that we will be four time champions and keep winning until we not only become the best female soccer team, but the best soccer team in the world

          I get aggravated ever time I hear it – they are not now, nor will they ever be, the “best soccer team in the world”. “Best women’s soccer team”, perhaps, but they’d lose to any D1 college men’s team, never mind just about any other men’s professional or national team.

          1. mikey

            The women’s hockey team scrimages against HS boys’ teams – and loses.

        2. whiz

          Gymnastics may be an exception for specific events.

          Beach volleyball FTW!

  43. Count Potato

    What is the best YouTube downloader for FF? Many of them are bullshit. The one I was using, stopped working, and I can’t even find it anywhere now. Video Download Helper is very slow.

    1. Rhywun

      I use a separate app called “4K Video Downloaded”. Had to pay like 10 bucks for it, but they release frequent updates that stay on top of the changes YouTube keeps making. The free plug-ins are all garbage.

      1. Rhywun

        “Downloader

      2. Count Potato

        Well, the I had worked great, but then suddenly stopped working.

        But I guess $10 isn’t bad.

    2. l0b0t

      Try JDownloader, it’s my favorite. http://jdownloader.org/

    3. Count Potato

      Video Download Helper just failed.

  44. AlmightyJB

    Fuck links? Where?

  45. AlmightyJB

    Great tune!

  46. AlmightyJB

    “he understands etiquette and has exquisite manners, and is a man of taste and refinement”

    Wait. Who are we talking about?

    1. Mad Scientist

      If that weren’t true, he’d never be able to come up with his wonderfully disgusting tales except by dumb luck. He’s far too consistently good for it to be luck.

      1. AlmightyJB

        True:)

    2. SugarFree

      “I am not a monster!” SugarFree cried to the shouting crowd as he ran down the foggy streets of London.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Sanctuary! Sanctuary!

  47. Chafed

    I’m impressed no one and nothing was broken by the end of your conversation.

    1. Tulip

      Yes. I would have been nice on the phone, but probably would have broken a glass or two

  48. Count Potato

    “I Used The Men’s Bathroom (But I’m Trans…)”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFgWCtDo77U

    “NEW VIDEO: People online keep commenting that I need to use the men’s bathroom, so I tried it! ??‍♀️ SPOILER ALERT: I got kicked out. Watch the guys react.”

    https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/1149030540156100608

    1. AlmightyJB

      I think most people can figure out where they need to go.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      There are good reasons to criticize the Kochs, but this ain’t it, chief. Tucker should stick to foreign policy- there’s a bunch of reasons to criticize the Kochs on that front

  49. R C Dean

    Apologies, but I am blanking on which of us writes romance novels, but I would be interested in her take on this:

    It turns out that the [Amish fiction] novels aren’t written by the Amish, nor are they written for an Amish audience. Instead, they are targeted at a fairly specific demographic, over-50 Evangelical women, offering a chaste romance tale with a happy ending and in a setting guaranteed to have nothing pornographic or impure, like an uncovered ankle.

    1. Mojeaux, I think.

      1. R C Dean

        That’s her.

        These sound like the Hallmark Christmas Movies of romance novels. Which is cool; I got no beef with some sappy sentimentality when the mood strikes.

    2. AlmightyJB

      At least there’s a happy ending.

    3. but I am blanking on which of us writes romance novels

      SugarFree?

      1. Not Adahn

        I didn’t get to comment when it was live, but that was really nice work.

        Because I saw the pic before I had read enough, I thought you had used the redwood to make the Captain America one and I was horrified.

        1. R C Dean

          Same on both counts.

          My rare attempts at wood “working”* turn out pretty much what you would expect from a fat, nearsighted, half-deaf old lawyer.

          *no euphemism.

        2. R C Dean

          Parts of Pater and Mater Dean’s house are made out of redwood. There is a scrap pile in the barn with some truly significant redwood beam chunks, and a good amount of the planking they put on the ceiling in the great room. If I was any good with wood, man . . .