I’m 0-2 on baseball playoff predictions after the Rays, with the smallest payroll in MLB, homered their way to a win in Oakland and a date with Houston in the ALDS. I’m debating making a prediction about the divisional series because I don’t want to jink my Astros. So I’ll just make them for the NL. I’m going with the Dodgers and Braves. I may or may not make AL picks tomorrow.We’ll all have to wait and see (as if anybody really cares).
Liverpool won a wild one against Salzburg and now must do a quick turnaround for a match Saturday with well-rested third-place Leicester City. Barcelona got back on track . Chelski won, as did Ajax and Dortmund. And in more local news, HOCKEY IS OFFICIALLY BACK!!!!!. Toronto beat Ottawa, the Caps spoiled the Blues banner-raising, the Oilers greased the Canucks, and Vegas (baby, Vegas) drilled San Jose. More on tap tonight for those of you whose team didn’t play.
Its Chubby Checker’s birthday! And Stevie Ray Vaughan’s too. Also the following: hurler Dennis Eckersley, rocker Lindsey Buckingham, magical lion-snack Roy Horn, transformational hockey goalie Glenn Hall, race-baiting tax-evader Al Sharpton, golfer Freddie Couples, rocker Tommy Lee, singer Gwen Stefani, and actors Neve Campbell, Seann William Scott, Shannyn Sossamon, and recently-freed rapper A$AP Rocky.
That’s a pretty decent list, even if it does lack many historical names. Not to mention HOCKEY IS BACK!!! But either way, its time to move on to…the links!
Adam Schiff, who has said his office had no contact with the whistleblower before he filed his complaint, did in fact have contact between his office and the whistleblower before he filed the complaint. But nothing to see here, folks. Its commonplace for a spy to relate conversations he doesn’t have firsthand knowledge of to an oversight committee chair and that chair not relate the concerns with the rest of the committee. Move along, sir. I said move along.
in related news, the prosecutor looking into the firm that inexplicably employed Biden’s son for. ridiculous sum of money said he was pressured by the US government to back off. But the media won’t touch that since it didn’t come from “a source” or “someone with knowledge of the information”.
Bernie Sanders has cancelled all campaign events for the time being after a medical scare. You can go ahead and put a fork in him. The hard-left vote now completely belongs to Warren.
Meanwhile, her most serious opponent has a few questions to answer about an official trip he took to China in 2013 with his son. You know, his best defense on this might be to say “I took him there because China still makes some of the best heroin in the world and Beau really wanted to move away from crack to smack.” Its a lot more plausible than the “nothing to see here, folks” defense they’re going with.
Dem super-donor Ed Buck has been indicted for a second person’s drug overdose at his Hollywood mansion house of horrors. I wonder how many of the people whose campaigns he raised millions for will come to defend him. I wonder how many in the media will address those connections. I’ll go out on a limb and say the answers to those are both zero.
The EPA has sent San Francisco notice that they are in violation of the Clean Water Act for their use of storm drains letting used drug needles and human shit to flow into the Pacific Ocean. SF denies the claim, saying all that human shit and those needles are captured in their water treatment plants. To which I would ask: what happens to that waste once it’s captured?
The brother of her victim and the judge in the case both hug convicted murdered Amber Guyger as she’s sentenced to ten years. God bless that brother, but I think it is out of place for a judge to do something like that. Its also apparently considered “samboing and mammying” to forgive someone to at least one high-profile assclown. I’m not sure I’d be as forgiving, but who the fuck does Nasheed think he is to tell someone how they should react when their brother is murdered? Seriously, fuck that guy.
I remember the time Mark Sebastian locked himself in the Q-102 studio in Cincinnati and played this song 20 times in a row before they broke the door down and took him away. It was awesome.
Well that’s it, my friends. Go have a great day.
Speaking of offspring with inexplicable amounts of wealth, how’s Chelsea Clinton doing these days?
Stupid and ugly
Her father – Janet Reno – is still proud of her…
…from the grave…
Gettin’ white girl thicc if her appearance on The View is any indication.
Dad (Hubbell) was pretty thicc.
Ten years for someone convicted of murder in TX? Seems a bit below normal.
It seems to be on the low end. I thought she’d get 20.
Out in 3?
That’s ’cause a half dozen cops testified that she was very moral and dependable, you know, except for the whole killing an innocent dude in his own house part, and all the racist tweets, and the affair with her married partner. Oh, and the fact that she let a handcuffed prisoner escape, I’m sure there’s more.
Oh, yeah, and the fact that she had a trauma kit in her backpack and didn’t even try to use it to help Botham.
Look, cops re the thin blue line between anarchy and a civil society. Without them, random people would just bust into your place and shoot you, with nobody to stop them or bring them to justice.
Well, she did “hug” the judge. Before or after the verdict remains to be seen.
I guarantee you she doesn’t walk into the wrong cell in prison
She certainly won’t be able to kill who ever is in there, if she does.
The JUDGE hugged the convicted killer? I wonder how other defendants will feel in her court in the future?
Pissed off and terrified?
My guess is the judge was moved by the actions of the victim’s brother. Its totally inappropriate, in my opinion.
Yeah, I can see all the emotions in play. But, as you say, inappropriate. There’s a reason they give you black robes & put you on a seat away from everyone.
I think they should go whole hog and make the judge wear a blindfold and have to hold up the Scales of Justice. At least then we’d know if any of them even lift.
Female judges in sheer togas with perky titties? I’m im
Only if it’s Justice Abortion Barbie. Mind you, she’s had five kids so we might be disappointed.
It’s absolutely inappropriate.
Judge Judy wouldn’t do that.
Professional solidarity, bro.
I really don’t think this judge did her any favors during the trial. Sure, she let her go for the castle doctrine defense, but I think that was more so that she couldn’t use it in an appeal. She handled the entire thing very well, right up until she let her emotions get the best of her and she hugged the convicted murderer.
I’d also applaud the Dallas PD for not even thinking of defending Guyger’s actions. I don’t applaud police departments very often, but I can only imagine how differently the Chicago PD would have acted if it was one of theirs that did this.
And Dallas has convicted 3 cops of murder in the last 18 months, so any leniency cops are getting in our legal system apparently doesn’t apply to Dallas.
Women judges….amirite?
Well played muppet.
Best gender reveal ever
That must be why he couldn’t see over the dash.
Legit LOL
Congratulations!
Drive thru service?
WTF???
It’s fake. You can tell the writing isn’t on the car before it explodes into the lobby. But still funny.
Should have had blue airbags
I was jumping around the teevee dial, last night, and landed briefly on the young turks. They were sputtering about how people were liable to use that piffling little heart attack against Bernie.
You know- “Senator [X] is claiming, without evidence, that Bernie is not physically up to the job.” Bogus, dude.
Compared to RBG, Bernie’s in fine health!
If Dems had their way RBG would be sequestered away from the rest of the Court and make her decisions known like the Oracle of Delphi.
Just a flesh wound.
I heard they took 2 stents for him from someone who had six. No one needs that many stents.
How does he justify having TWO stents when most Americans have NONE?
It’s dumped in the ocean.
/notsureiftrue
If its all captured together, its definitely considered hazardous waste. Are they trucking that to a special landfill? Or dumping it into the ocean? There’s no way a city that gets that much rain would have their storm drain system connected to their wastewater processing system for homes and businesses. The amount of water would overwhelm the system.
I’d believe that San Fran never updated an older combined system, which just overflows into the sea when the rain comes along.
Almost certainly this
https://sfwater.org/index.aspx?page=398
Thank you for this. Interesting system. Not surprised they’re the only ones that have a combined system.
https://www.sfbetterstreets.org/find-project-types/greening-and-stormwater-management/stormwater-overview/
About 10% is separated sewer (with its own challenges from druggies, bums, and other sources). New development is separated but unless they rip up the entire city, unlikely to change for a long long time.
Pretty common and the result is overflow goes into the waterway untreated. Many places have done very expensive projects over the last 20-30 years to decrease the spillage of untreated sewage, sometimes by separating storm water and wastewater. But if the storm water is getting contaminated and bypasses treatment, well there’s where it’s coming from.
The question is where do you want an overflow to go? Into basements, streets, or bodies of water.
I just assumed they were using the waste to fill in the San Andreas fault.
Victoria BC, the leftiest city in the nation is only now building an actual sewage treatment plant after decades of wrangling over the location. One of the wealthiest places in the country has been pumping raw sewage into the ocean for 150 years.
That explains the shitty politics in Seattle.
According to my math, a .33 inch rain would drop 37,582 acre feet or about 270 million gallons of water over the entirety of San Francisco
And it does appear have the capacity to treat somewhere between 250 and 500 million gallons of water per day.
What I’m kinda curious is why? To clean the pigeon poop and oil from vehicles that washes into storm drains?
Don’t ignore the amount flushed through the sanitary lines, even in a californian city, that’s going to be additional millions of gallons per day on top of that rain.
That’s reduced in SanFran. The lo-flo toilets actually require them to increase the chlorination levels becuase the septic mains don’t get washed out enough.
Those things are the devil.
I agree
60-80 million
Originally most storm drains led directly to a body of water; domestic wastewater was discharged into a separate “sanitary” sewer which discharges at a wastewater treatment plant. Plastic syringes and other floaty items get skimmed off the top, solid sinky items such as actual needles would be caught by one of the filters — these filters are concrete bunkers full of sand. The liquid (anything that doesn’t get skimmed or filtered) gets treated in “pools” with various chemicals including chlorine which is then neutralized before the processed wastewater is discharged into a body of water. All new systems are “combined” systems where storm drain water and sewer water both go to the treatment plant. Early combined systems often had emergency overflows to discharge untreated water during heavy rains; don’t know how many of those are still in operation.
One of the best MTB trails in Richmond is the “Poop Loop,” so named because it’s adjacent to the City of Richmond Wastewater Treatment Plant.
One of my friends is a biologist for the state agency that oversees municipal wastewater treatment plants. They try to get it pretty clean before it gets discharged.
“combined systems often had emergency overflows to discharge untreated water during heavy rains; don’t know how many of those are still in operation.”
City of Doolooth just built another overflow catchment tank, because heavy rains would overwhelm the sewer system and flush everything out into Lake Superior. It’s a monstrous thing. At least they partially buried it.
overflow
Good for them.
Forget who, but someone got the units right above: acre-feet. It’s a ton-o-space. His calcs were 50k acre-feet, I think, for Frisco. So 5000 acres 10′ deep . . . a ten foot hole of almost ten square miles!
“re they trucking that to a special landfill?”
In Minneapolis, it is incinerated on-site.
Its also apparently considered “samboing and mammying” to forgive someone to at least one high-profile assclown.
I cannot be bothered.
Can’t decide if parody or not.
Rays in 4 !
YOU LIE!
The Astrols belong in the NL. They must be ransomed back or at least traded for the Brewers and a AA team to be named later. And I’ll throw in a bucket of balls and two bags of quikrete.
538 is looking Dodgers – Astros, which would be excellent.
PS Suck it Cubs
PPS Fucking Yankees think they can buy everything: fuck the fucking Yankees
PPPS 538 also sez it doesn’t matter, Cards or Braves: either won’t make it any further.
PPS Fucking Yankees think they can buy everything: fuck the fucking Yankees
The Yankees do not have the highest payroll, and are doing it mostly with their farm system and fill-ins.
absolutely, but I didn’t cultivate this level of hate this year: it’s been mostly true for mostly four decades, so I’ll be dead before I coast down from this
LOL, fair enough.
Agreed on at least one point.
Fuck the Yankees.
I’m taking a small road trip to Valhalla, New York today to visit Lou Gehrig’s grave in Kensico Cemetery. Ayn Rand’s grave is also there. Babe Ruth’s is about a mile away from there, so visiting also.
How macabre of you. It’s the month to do it.
I liked visiting Jimi Hendrix grave in Seattle. People would leave all sorts of “offerings”.
This Yanks team is pretty much home grown or guys brought in via trade.
Cant see them beating the Stros tho.
SF denies the claim
It doesn’t seem likely that storm drain runoff is routed through water treatment plants.
Storm drains usually don’t. Unless you have combined storm and sanitary sewer, and in those cases when it rains the sewage gets washed into the sea with the overflow from the storm.
In LA, it does. Well, a bunch of it does.
“Well, son of a b–ch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden said at the Council on Foreign Relations in 2018,
Was Biden raised in the bayou?
The bayou’s of Oakland, CA?
No. He’s just an entitled, corrupt, ass hole who has gone his whole life living that way. He’s making sure that we get at least another 2 generations of his family name doing the same shit too.
+1 political dynasties peddling marxist shit!
CFR — your go-to for retired bureaucrats to tell us how we ought to conduct foreign policy. I consider this an arm of the Deep State, operating in plain sight. FWIW, I don’t think the DS is as sinister and all-reaching as some people do, but it effectively exists through many organizations like this.
Pretty much. They’re predictably big government and more war on almost every topic.
Also, NPR loves them.
Adam Schiff, who has said his office had no contact with the whistleblower before he filed his complaint, did in fact have contact between his office and the whistleblower before he filed the complaint. – the man misspoke, happens to all of us
He really likes having secret info about Trump, especially when it’s not completely imaginary.
Thanks for the genuine ’80s music.
Best gender reveal ever
He was almost out of those cigars.
It looks like a corner pharmacy so I’m assuming Cherry Swishers.
The media really seems to be fully masks off at this point. Npr sounds like Trump’s already been removed from dc
Check overseas media. Nobody gives a shit about this.
Well that gives me hope.
Seriously, it’s being treated as nothing more than political squabbling here. Maybe Pie can tell us how it’s viewed in the Romanian press.
Please!
BBC does.
BBC. Can’t think of a better “exception that proves the rule”.
Uh, Professor Straffinrun… There’s this Canadian thing called the CBC? I think it’s in the syllabus?
I may be wrong, but it seems the world outside the woke bubbles believes this will blow over. What are the betting markets saying on Trump’s removal?
Um, does a channel who’s viewership consists of 2 dozen ice fishermen really amount to much?
Yeah, fair enough.
NPR presumes his guilt. They also act like Trump losing his temper after two years of politically motivated legal persecution is completely unwarranted and unjustified,
It’s similar to how the media responded to Kavanaugh getting pissed off in front of Congress.
“We get to impugn your character, try to ruin your career, legally attack you, and you’re supposed to lie back and take it like Mitt Romney.”
Why U mad bro?
Mitt was unafraid of their attacks. He had binders full of women and magical underpants.
Self-defense is shocking news to the elites who want a monopoly on it.
“lie back and take it like Mitt Romney”
Eeewwww!
They don’t call it Assachusetts for nothing.
NPR brings on Schiff and Clapper and never even suggests either has a problem with veracity.
The genteel “we’re totally above the partisanship” facade they put on aggravates the shit out of me when their reporting is absolutely biased.
If you really want to raise the blood pressure of a colleague, just refer to NPR as “Fox News with classical music” the next time someone says “I was listening to NPR this morning…”
Still waiting for Schiff’s proof of Trump’s Russian collusion which he swore he had.
God damn. I miss NPR. Before MeToo, the Culture Wars, TDS, and every other plague of the modern age, I used to be able to enjoy NPR in the morning. Sure, there were always eye rolling moments, but for the most part it was pretty smart programming. Then the vocal fry started. A new generation. No longer just aging boomers, the old hosts, bit by bit, were replaced by the vapid twits we have today.
Sigh.
God damn. Those people make me feel old.
I still like “Wait,Wait, Don’t Tell Me” on Satdee mornings. Other than that, I can’t stand to listen to NPR for more than 5 minutes.
last weeks WWDTM was pretty much over the top. “OMG TRUMP LITERALLY ADMITTED TO IMPEECHIBIBBLE CRIMES”was the punchline to more than half the jokes.
I almost want to get on the show so the if Paula Poundstone is on I can withdraw live saying; “I’m sorry, I choose not to associate with child molesters.”
They’re losing me as well.
KERA has the best interviewer in the nation, but the questions are all slanted now.
Expert: facts regarding some issue
KERA: who do we tax so that some agency can be created to manage this?
Diane Rehm is their ideal model of an interviewer, with Terry Gross being a close second.
Neither one is even remotely capable of hiding their disdain for those who disagree with them politically. Every word oozes with contempt.
You’re safe from Rehm, now, of course.
Gross is out: I don’t do uptalk.
Terry Gross did have that one interview with Gene Simmons that went off the rails.
I stopped listening to her last year because she could not help but drag Trump into every interview.
IIRC, she was asking some British actor about how horrible he thinks Trump is and he responded with “That’s not why I’m here nor do I care. Can we get back to me now?”
The last few years of his career, Daniel Schorr made EVERY ONE of his weekly segments about how much he hated [Republican President]. There was one about the Super Bowl, where he almost made it through without one but the very last line was “at least there’s one bright spot in these horrible Bush-era tomes.”
Schorr was an asshole who actively pushed a VAT during Clinton’s term while “reporting”.
And don’t get me started on Cokie “Nepotism Embodied” Roberts.
My favorite NPR rant from ages ago
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/how-do-i-hate-npr-let-me-count-the-ways/Content?oid=882237
A selection:
My phone is fucked and I am split between spending for a flagship or getting a mid-range or changing the display on this one
What phone is (was?) It?
Galaxy s8. Broke the display in a corner in the first week and was so pissed off by that I did not fix it in two years. I overall disliked the phone anyway.
new screen may fix it, the touch is rthe problem, but it would probably cost 1000 lei. I could get a brand new Zenfone 5 for that, weaker phone but better battery (especially since the Samsung battery is 2 years old. )
I had a 6 or 7. I think it was the middle, 6active or something. I didn’t like it much.
A last season iPhone would work and be decent on the wallet.
I went Google pixel 2 when I switched to Google fi, I like the phone a lot. The new ones look like they are solid, but I think they only work on fi or Verizon.
Whatever Pixel I might get will be unlocked and work in any network. A pixel 2 XL is like 1800 lei. A Oneplus 6T is like 2200. The zenfone 5 is 1150. A zenfone 6 would be 2700. Iphone 11 is 3990, earlier iphones like 3500. Iphone is to expensive and am not sure I want to switch from Android, I am used to it
That’s such a range of prices. Damn. I am also used to Android and Google basically owns my life. I’ve embraced it. I do like the pure Android on the pixel, I don’t have to deal with Samsung apps.
Thing is I am inclining to the cheap one, with the idea to change it again next year or so. But am afraid I will get annoyed / frustrated with it. It should be okay, not sure how much bloatware the Zen UI brings.
I have the Pixel 3A XL. Best phone I ever had. The camera is incredible. They’re cheap now that Pixel 4 is coming out. Just recognize that Google will then own everything about you
I went 3A XL here as well, I had the original Pixel, but the battery life was down to ~8 hours. The 3A XL has a better battery life then the 3 XL, and still has a headphone jack.
Battery life is important… I don’t know how it is on the 3a. The 3a XL is I think out of my price range in Romania prices
the basic 3a May be more in my range, about 100 dollars less
Hmm found a 3a XL for 550 USD
S9 is around $250US on eBay. Moto G7+ less than $250, galaxy note 8 less than $300
I don’t know how cost prohibitive shipping is in Romania for most eBay sellers, but I’ve had decent luck buying phones from there.
Flagship previous gen are the way to go if you want a good phone for cheap.
Get a rotary phone.
The problem is that phones tend to be expensive in Romania. Dunno why. Small market perhaps. Also not all models are available. For example no google store here so various Pixels are more expensive than they would be
Ah. That answers what I said a few up.
Not even buying online?
You can buy online but pricier. A pixel 3a is like 550 USD here more than 100 more than in the US
A pixel 3A XL is more than 650 dollars here, while it is under 500 there
I’ve been that guy the last few weeks with a smashed screen while I wait to see how the Pixel 4 shakes out. I think I would rather spend less and get the 3a.
I wanted to wait till november, phone was working fine until yesterday. Now I think I cannot wait any more
That’s where I’d land. I like the 2, and will hold out for more testing in the 4 before I upgrade.
I really miss my Nexus 5. I had that phone for over 4 years and would have kept it longer except it too, suffered the face down onto concrete fate.
I was also considering a Samsung A70 but heard the under screen fingerprint reader is unreliable and fear that it would annoy me
Someone with the skills should take the photoshopped picture of the turtle with a straw up his nose and make it a turtle with a needle up his nose.
I think you’d do better to have a turtle with a bunch of needles stuck in its shell labeled, “A San Francisco Porcupine”.
Add a row stuck along the top of the head and relabel it “a San Fransisco Punkupine”
Terrible, but something like this?
Drunk. Ugh. This?
https://imgflip.com/i/3c9l3r
That’s amazing.
I have a turtle meme with a straw doing coke off the back of another turtle if that helps.
So, you didn’t click my link?
LOL just did.
Nice opening salvo:
The Trump administration ratcheted up its feud with California on Wednesday as the Environmental Protection Agency issued a notice accusing San Francisco of violating the federal Clean Water Act.
I thought a notice from the EPA was akin to Holy Writ. Definitively true and pure and incontestable. And now they want me to believe it’s just another blunt object in the bureaucrats’ tool kit for oppressing the downtrodden freedom fighters?
The EPA is only for rural areas and only when a Democrat is in the White House, duh.
They should get back to poisoning rivers!
“only when a Democrat is in the White House”
Applicable to any and all federal agencies.
Ah, another song that marked by very young ass in 1982 along with ‘Save it for later’ and ‘Hurts so good’.
I’ll never play John Cougar Melonhead. Never.
Show me where he touched you with his Democrat screeds.
Hey! Ain’t that America?
*Drunk slobbers* “I love you, Sloooop!”
Jack and Diane is the best pop song written in the last 35 years. Bar none. Not sorry
BOO THIS MAN!
The whole Thriller album says you are incorrect.
Also came out more than 35 years ago.
You can append “Off the Wall” to that as well.
It was written more 35 years ago.
-1 Pink House
Fun (useless) fact: My brother got on stage and sang ‘Pink Houses’ with Mellencamp on the Lonesome Jubilee tour (it was an absolutely gem of a concert. Really good musicians he had) in ’87 before 20 000 people in the old Montreal Forum (the greatest hockey arena in the history of mankind). We then got to meet him backstage. Kenny Aronof went up to my brother and said, ‘YOU KICKED ASS!’
Aronoff
Was at a music event a few years ago and Jack White mistook me for Aronoff…of course, he was probably high on pussy at the time so….
God Bless you for that, sloopy!
“I’ll never play John Cougar Melonhead. Never.”
Thank you. From the bottom of my cold, black heart.
Jane Humphries and Jacob Weisdorf’s (@SDUeconhist) paper ‘Unreal Wages? Real Income and Economic Growth in England, 1260–1850’ is available for pre-publication view from the
https://twitter.com/OxfordESH/status/1179331437151113218
Fucking nickelback, copyright claiming memes.
Everybody hates them and they hate everyone.
Now you’re making me like them.
A bridge too far, Straff but clever, nonetheless!
I like Hype. I can make some room for nickelback.
It took a woman four years between buying a couch and checking its cushions.
robbreport.com/style/watch-collector/rare-paul-newman-rolex-daytona-2870019/
“A woman in Canada found a vintage Paul Newman Rolex Daytona 624 underneath the cushions of her couch and turns out it’s worth $250,000.”
wrif.com/2019/10/02/a-woman-finds-a-250000-rolex-in-her-thrift-store-couch-and-plans-to-pay-for-a-boob-job/
“A woman in Canada recently found a rare vintage Rolex in a couch she bought from a thrift store for $25. The watch is worth at least $250,000”
I hope she will return it to the rightful owner
Rufus you were saying you lost a vintage Rolex right?
It’s a Rolecks.
OOOOH! That dates it to before they changed the spelling! Those are super-rare!
I WILL GIVE $100,000 FOR IT!!!!
Sir, these are not US dollars.
FTA: She claims that buying the couch counts as buying the watch. She plans on using part of the money for increasing her chest measurement.
Don’t buy anything from that thrift store, they don’t clean it.
Pics so I can judge if that boob job is an investment or money just flushed down the drain….
Funny, Drew and Mike haven’t been on WRIF in years.
“plans-to-pay-for-a-boob-job”
Tell me more…
That is what loading links and reading the articles are for.
By time posted, the comment with the links about the couch and watch is number “69 Dude!”
Hate being argumentative, but we know where Newman’s Daytona is
I really enjoyed the watch series here. You can get on the list for a Daytona, btw: about a four year wait, $12k, no down-payment required (if you don’t have it for delivery, nbd: they will easily sell it to someone else)
/ mechanical watch guy
$250l? Hell, I once saw a street-corner vendor in Shanghai selling them for twenty bucks.
LOL, I remember being chased by those guys around the Bund.
I’ve had that goddamn Nickelback song stuck in my head since yesterday and am now firmly in the impeach and imprison camp. You’ve lost me Trump.
I’m surprised Crazy Maxine didn’t suggest putting him in shackles from neck to hands to feet like a slave. Because, you know, he’s a racist.
She may not be smart, but she has a certain sort of low cunning. She knows exactly where the line is and always makes sure she stays on the defensible side of an argument. But someday she will slip, or there will be an open mic.
I dunno man, she’s like an ornery Grandma that just gets more vicious as the years drift by. She’d be the type of person that would tell her son on her deathbed “I always loved your brother more than you!” just before she expires.
LOFL.
So I got a document with a table in which a few things needed to be marked, on two priority levels. So the guy marked prio1 with X and prio2 with x. Could he not have used a different fucking letter?
y? r u not case sensitive?
The font makes is not that visible as it is embedded in email.
But that would be more work for him. Besides, he gave you the information you needed.
I’d think having to press shift would be more work than using x and z.
For some reaosn I’m reminded of people who spend more effort avoiding work than the work they’re avoiding even takes. (Not in the ‘automate this’ sense, but in trying to push it off on other people when it’s their responsibility)
I also hate when people send me screenshots of error messages or long unix paths to the working dir where the tool has issues so I cannot copy paste.
Are you working with people from my office?
Thing is I am working exclusively with engineers so I expected better for some reason
Engineers are people with very specific fields of knowledge.
In all other respects, they are like any other user.
I think we’re probably more assholish.
You’d think that, but work a helpdesk some time.
I’d rather get the screenshot then the vague description, such as:
“I had a problem logging in.”
“What’s wrong with it?”
“It’s broke.”
“Have you tried turning it off and turning it back on again?”
“Did you check the thermostat?”
Hey, just want to say thanks for your anthrax vaccine series, it’s a great read, although rage-inducing.
“URGENT! Can’t log in”
/call, leave VM
/send e-mail
/follow up next day
/still no response.
/finally hear back
“Oh, I was just getting this message that my password was about to expire.”
I’ve gotten that recently with voicemail. They were being told their PIN had expired, and they needed to select a new one.
Scientists have created a leg prosthesis for lower leg amputees that incorporates advanced neural stimulation, allowing it to recreate sensations of touch that are missing in conventional #prosthetic designs.
https://twitter.com/sciencemagazine/status/1179487907842801670
Footjobs are now ADA compliant?
Thot Thursday undermines your pathetic attempt to join NoFap.
http://archive.li/HrggJ
Everyone talks about online Nazis, which I’m sure exist; but what about these online black racists like Nasheed and those replying to him?
Damn, what miserable lives to be consumed by hate like that.
(For the record, I think also think it’s f’ed up the judge hugged her, but not the brother)
Like that lawyer on CNN who thought David Webb was white. Man, she’s some piece of bigoted work. People like her seem to think ‘blacks can’t be racist’ is a legit argument.
To be honest, when I first started listening to Webb, I thought he was white. He was so well spoken – BOOYA props to Biden!
Elie Mystal wrote an article for the Atlantic about how Asians were right to be troubled by the bias at Harvard, but it’s just horrible that those filthy wypipo untermenchen hijacked their issue.
In other words, he can’t elevate the principle over the principals.
If I recall correctly, Indianapolis got sued by the EPA twenty years ago or more, because in heavy rain the storm sewers would flush raw sewage from the sanitary sewers into the White River. Many very expensive modifications were required.
probably, but it’s SOP everywhere so why pick on Indy?
most towns are running treatment plants with the capacity they needed during Korea
there are three rivers within five miles of where I live/write: I can tell every time someone upstream has been overwhelmed
so, canoeing, anybody?
One of the advantages of living at the top of the watershed is that everyone else gets to drink my piss.
Also, my water is only contaminated by animal waste so… win?
Good move.
I’m okay with the shit levels I have today, one annoying (strong animal smells don’t really bother me like others) day a month.
As for jetsam, I live on a sand bar, a little piece of Minnesoda that got misplaced in the Pleistocene.
Doesn’t jetsam have to be deliberately thrown overboard?
It means whatever I want it to mean !!!11!!
/ runs sobbing to hide behind HM
“so, canoeing, anybody?”
Yuk it up, Don. I kayak and do rolls so get more contact than a canoeist. Every Spring I know I’ll get the shits for a week until my immune system adjusts. I paddle downstream of at least one municipal treatment plant discharge, a women’s prison, and lots of cow pastures.
No thanks, I haven’t bought any guns lately.
NewWife and I turned over in MO recently. The Glock didn’t care, of course, but neither did the HST rounds: they were fine when I got to the range.
Pelican case, bro.
“The EPA has sent San Francisco notice that they are in violation of the Clean Water Act”
El Oh El.
Rule 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
Is this an example of the left eating its own?
Even I think it was Nixon who brought the EPA in.
Heh. What drives me insane is that my leftists friends can see how the power is “abused”, for political reasons, but they don’t see that it goes the other way too and that the purpose of these laws are almost always the bludgeoning of your political enemies.
They believe in intentions, Leon.
First hockey game last night. Beer league (over 35). The goalie on the other team was a complete spaz. In between periods he decked a guy from behind as he was switching ends. I told him I was sorry his life was so empty that playing with old farts and beating them was so important. He literally told me to ‘get gud’. I offered to buy him a decent blowjob in Flint if that would calm him down. The ref had to restrain him :D.
Third period I took a shot of my foot and cracked the damn tuuk on my skate again. Now I have to decide whether to replace it or just buy a new pair. I hate to part with them as they are custom Daoust 555s, but they are old and not much steel left.
On the bright side, our league delivers a case of beer each game to the locker room in a cooler packed with ice that included in team fees. So I got that going for me…
Can you actually get a decent blowjob in Flint?
As long as you’re certified lead-free.
They have a Deja Vu. So, maybe?
Go with the indecent one. Costs more probably but would be worth it
Sometimes the toothless broads charge more. Bar flies are a bit cheaper, but then you’ve got to go into the bar in Michigan.
I miss playing. The on-ice drama and the camaraderie and beers later.
Same here. My skating is next to shit now but I played more ball hockey in organized leagues. Hockey wasn’t my game; soccer was. I haven’t played team sports since 2003 – the last time I tore my ACL on my other knee. i played one year of baseball in a league but I couldn’t play as aggressively as I wanted. I was scared of re-tearing the knees running the bases or sliding. I called it quits after that. I now play individual sports – where I can find a partner for tennis or squash. Which is like never. My buddy decided to be gay and stop playing and my cousin went and got himself killed by the mob.
Now it’s mostly race cycling and running. Oh well.
But soccer I definitely miss even though most lunkheads don’t know how to play the damn frickin game.
What I don’t miss is the culture of bad politics and idiot jocks. I’ve seen my fair share of guys Private Chipperbot just described. I was pretty much Ned Braden that way.
cycling
* points * over there, over there, in the shorts: literally worse than Hitler
I promise you I don’t look like a popsicle and dress like I think I’m a pro. I’m a conservative guy. I just wear my striped top. No pants.
You’re the Dino Ciccarelli of bicycling?
“ball hockey in organized leagues”
Like field hockey for guys?
Not…..sure.
/narrows gaze.
My knees are shot but I can still hold my own in games of skill. Like you, I gave it up once I knew that I couldn’t dive for a ball or slide safely without months of surgery and rehab. That’s kinda when my interest in professional sports started to wane.
Well played sir! Pun intended.
I had a similar encounter with some asshole off duty cop in a jiu-jitsu class. Apparently people think it’s OK to be an abusive piece of shit as long as a ref doesn’t stop them.
i’m in a couple beer leagues. one has 20-somethings in it. the rest of us just laugh.
Hey Hanrahan! Hanrahan! Hey Hanrahan! Suzanne sucks pussy! Hey Hanrahan, she’s a dyke! I know! I know! She’s a lesbian! A lesbian! A lesbian!
+1 Reggie Dunlop
That’s the kind of chirping that would make Marchand green with envy.
Do you mind me asking what the CC in your picture stands for Private? I didn’t recognize the colours and was curious.
The Seven-Year Auto Loan: America’s Middle Class Can’t Afford Its Cars
About a third of auto loans for new vehicles taken in the first half of 2019 had terms of longer than six years, according to credit-reporting firm Experian PLC. A decade ago, that number was less than 10%.
But the size of the average auto loan has grown by about a third over the past decade to $32,119 for a new car, according to Experian. To keep payments manageable, the car industry has taken to adding more months to the end of the loan.
The average loan stretches for roughly 69 months, a record. Some last much longer. In the first half of the year, 1.5% of auto loans for new vehicles had terms of 85 months or longer, according to Experian. Five years ago, these eight- and nine-year loans were practically nonexistent.
Forgive auto loans too.
Buy a cheaper car maybe?
But, but, no one wants a Fiesta!
I was considering a Focus or Fiesta ST last time around. They just killed the Focus.
In what way? I thought Foci were selling well.
2018 was the last model year for the Focus. It is gone.
Noooo…..
I liked my Focus. I’d still be driving it if not for that Buick.
I was in a Ford dealership a few weeks ago while my wife’s car was getting an oil change. One ridiculously priced muscle car, a pickup, and what seemed like a dozen blob-looking SUVs of slightly different sizes.
I was considering a Fiesta ST earlier this year but ended up with a Mazda. They’re a blast to drive but unreliable from what I understand.
I ended up with the Mazda a few years ago too. Choices are slim when you want a manual and the new Civic wasn’t out yet.
So far the cheapest manual transmission vehicle I’ve seen is $15k – that ebing the Fiesta. What else is out there?
The Toyota Yaris is still out there. It’s really a Mazda2 set up the way Mazda should have sold them and the 6-speed manual is standard.
You might be able to get a manual Fit.
Jettas?
I couldn’t tell if this comment was satire or not:
The problem is, Most manufacturers dont make simple cars anymore. Gone are the days of buying stripped out entry cars that have nothing. The car market is severely missing cars in the 7-10K range. Its a car. Its point, is to move us from one point to another. thats it. It doesnt need to have wifi, a 25 speaker stereo system, more storage space than my garage, etc.. cars nowadays have so many bells and whistles and have gotten so large and bloated and more to the point… priced out of the average car buyers range.
Take me for example. I need a truck. My wife and I just bought a house, and we plan on doing work around it and need to haul. We also have plans to get a camper and go camping a lot. She wants a boat as well, I want jet skis.. she will probably win but I digress…. It needs to fit 4 people, and 3 large dogs. A SUV could work for the towing but then we lose out on buying things to haul like new furniture, wood for fencing, rock or dirt for the yard etc. Now, a simple entry level truck, v8, room for 4, with the towing capacity we want is probably 40K or higher. a SUV isnt that far off. The market itself is ridiculous. There is a reason I hang onto my 2003 Grand Marquis… so simple and not much stuff to go wrong. Cheap and easy to work on, but its showing its age for sure… 207K and rising.
But I also dont want to take on a 5-600 a month car payment on something giving me more than I need or want
I wonder why cars aren’t sold at that level. Or couldn’t be inflation and effects from various regulations.
25 speaker stereo system
Pennies on the dollar. I’m going to go out on a limb and posit that the bells and whistles being decried aren’t adding that much cost to a vehicle.
People can’t possibly be expected to pay off loans! Erase all debt!
Yes,all debt! Look what happens when an employee, let’s say a cop, gets all stressed out and walks into the wrong apartment. Let’s save a few lives by erasing credit card debt that arises because you needed to take that relaxing stress relieving week on the beach in Cancun but couldn’t pay for it.
Are economy cars no longer a thing?
Between the EPA and the FHTSA, they’re almost regulated out of existence.
Come on. Here’s the new Corolla that for $20k, has more gizmos in it than a luxury car a decade ago. I think people just get really stupid when it comes to car shopping.
But that’s a Toyota.
Nobody should settle for a Toyota. Real OTA or GTFO.
But sometimes it snows here and I NEED AWD. Also might want to tow occasionally. May need some mulch from Lowes too.
No, no this will not do.
I broke that mindset a few years ago. No way were we going to fit into one of our cars to bring my son to college, so I just rented a minivan for a few days.
I don’t think I ever had that mindset. I told the first dealer I needed something to get to and from work. Ended up with a Focus with 15k miles on it. When that was totaled, I then picked the CMax because it was the most comfortable to drive.
I do get a little envy every now and then. Wife has a 2010 Odyssey because 3 kids. I have a 2008 Civic and a 2002 (single cab!) Ranger. Maybe a little ridiculous to have 3 vehicles for 2 drivers, but they all serve a purpose and are cheap transportation.
I bought a 2010 Hyundai Accent for under $3600 that had 55k miles. It’d been written off after being rear-ended, but either the accident was very minor or the salvage guy is a miracle worker because you can’t tell unless you look at the title. And it’s got all the features: it goes, it brakes, it can reverse, it has AC and crank windows and even a radio. Granted, in the three years I’ve owned it I’ve had to drop about $1200 on repairs, but compared to carrying a $20,000 bank note with interest for five years… I feel lucky.
Then there’s my brother, whose wife demanded he buy himself a new truck (because his beater was unsafe) and her a new minivan (because her six-year-old Honda sedan wasn’t big enough for their one child?). So now he’s under probably fifty grand worth of debt so they can have nice things. Stupid.
I bet it gets you exactly were you need to go in the same amount of time as an expensive new car.
Gee, I wonder what could be adding to the cost of new cars?
“Cash For Clunkers” priced the poor out of the market and into the waiting arms of the dealerships. That was maybe one of the worst things that Obama’s administration did to the working class in America.
Is there one thing that jackass did right? Anything?
He left office at his appointed time.
Didn’t leave DC, but did leave the office.
Cancelled the Constellation program, and opened up travel to Cuba. Otherwise, no.
Profiteering by for-profit transportation companies! Single payer mandatory public transit for all!
I would think perhaps some of those folk would have been in the used car market before Cash-For-Clunkers gutted the supply of cheap cars.
^ great minds and all.
My FiL is a used car dealer and was a lifelong NYC Democrat. Cash-For-Clunkers so enraged him that he switched over to the GOP. He saw so many great automobiles get torn apart for scrap.
They weren’t even truly “clunkers” if you had an actual clunker it was too old to qualify for the rebate. What a crock of shit that thing was. Still pisses me off to this day.
To add to our lack of choice any car outside the US is near impossible to bring into the country. Lots of cheap new cars just not in the US. They are unsafe you see, with the lack of quadruple driver side air bags that may or may not come under recall in the next decade.
Yeah, but I also think there is a stigma too surrounding used cars that they are not reliable. Or eww, I can get new for just $100-$200 more per month if I stretch it out long enough.
That’s part of it.
I get most of my cars from a dealer that buys wrecked cars and fixes them for resale. He doesn’t seem to want for supply and it surprises me how little it takes for an insurance company to “total” a vehicle. The caveat is, unless you’re going to trade it in with the same dealer, the salvage title makes it difficult to sell and I haven’t been able to get comprehensive insurance for them.
I either trade them in with the dealer or drive them until I feel like I’ve gotten my money’s worth out of them.
We bought salvage titled cars. No problem getting comprehensive through Travellers. Maybe try a different insurance company?
I’ll look into that. Thanks.
What do you do to make sure you aren’t buying something that looks nice on the outside but something deadly lurks beneath?
Yeah, I have to rely that the dealer is being honest with me when I ask about the repairs made to make the vehicle roadworthy again. I knew the dealer personally before I started buying from him and he likes my business, so I haven’t had an issue with that with about 1/2 a dozen cars/trucks thus far.
I would definitely be a lot more wary of buying a salvage from a complete stranger.
I buy the low mileage(10-35k) cars. I am making an assumption that they are mechanically sound with that little use.
When we (at different times recently) totaled out our PT Cruiser (just over 200K miles, blown head gasket) and Fit (around 100K miles, 2nd rebuilt axle, never-ending electrical problems), we were going to give them to the evil jingle people for the tax write-off but our mechanic called folk he knows. For the Chrysler, a tow truck rolled up and the guy gave me $400 cash but for the Fit, 2 trucks came and a bidding war ensued with us walking away with almost 2 grand because apparently those wee Hondas are in high demand regardless of condition.
My stepsister has a history of wrecking cars and getting an insurance payout that is far greater than what she paid for the car. I think it happened 3 times.
The problem is, now her insurance is really expensive because of all those wrecks.
Wow. Good luck to the person that buys that Fit
how little it takes for an insurance company to “total” a vehicle
Two things beyond the simple (not small, just simple) cost of repair and administrative expense that you might not have thought of:
a/ The repair estimate often is low because of hidden damage. There’s a risk premium to be figured, say 20%, because they can’t afford to get a week into the rebuild and suddenly find out oh-we-also-found-this and then you’re up at the breakeven cost anyway.
b/ Depending on the type of damage, there’s an amount to figure for possible future litigation should something go wrong. The best example is structural (since cars don’t much have frames any more) damage where the shop might make a mistake (or even no mistake) in materials and workmanship but a wheel goes flying off at interstate speed anyway.
So somewhere well before the obvious repair/replace breakeven, it’s just good corporate money sense to write something off and stop the overhead expenses asap.
It’s as if interest rates are artificially suppressed so the way the lender makes money is with a longer term. Or something.
There are a ton of used cars out there. A 3-5 year old car with relatively low miles is still pretty good and can be had for much less. A car today lasts for 200K miles with moderate levels of maintenance after 100K. You can get a car for almost half of the original purchase price after 5 years and it will likely still have 3/4 of its useful life left.
I have only bought one new car in my life. Every other car was used – some of them significantly. I always worked on them to keep them going.
The used car market in Japan is a real gold mine – I’ve only bought through auction websites here. My current car was 16 years old but a creampuff with low mileage (actually km’s but whatever). It had an expired inspection certificate which can be a can of worms since you can’t say for sure what it will cost to get the inspection done. I knew I would have to buy tires but saw that as half a blessing since that cast was discounted from the asking price and I would be able to choose what tires I would be riding on.
After all the down-sides were factored into the asking price I paid about what the custom rims it had were worth. After paying to truck it up to Tokyo, new tires, and inspection work it cost me about $4,500 for a clean Stagea – stationwagon version of the Skyline with turbo, fuel injection, and AWD.
I’m not sure that is true of trucks.
I’ve been looking at crew cab trucks recently and new seems to be almost worth getting.
Around where I live, 3-5 year old F150 crew cab with XLT trim are often $26-29k with 40-60k miles on them.
New with the same trim level, engine, and other options can be had for 36-37k today.
My 2008 Tacoma is about to surpass 150km this week sometime. Other than factory recalls, a front bumper and headlight that I fucked up and a wonky front wheel bearing it has been a delight. If I keep up with the maintenance I expect to drive it for at least five more years.
Good used tucks are indeed scarce.
trucks…lol
“Look in the tunk!”
I took out a 7 year auto loan on a $14,000 dollar car because the interest rate was less than what the short term bond market could return, and because we planned on keeping our car for over 7 years (on year six right now…). If I could have gotten an 85 month loan at a lower rate, I probably would have taken it.
no beef there
I can get in Dave Ramsey mode and forget to list caveats and application, but I promised not to retype my manifesto on this. But, yes, conceded: Anyone who can instantaneously pay off any tiny-interest note without affecting their overall goals or burning into their rainy day fund should do whatever they want. But most of the folks arguing about what the right kind of car loan is shouldn’t have a loan of any sort.
This.
And this is what most people don’t get about Dave Ramsey. He plays to the statistics. The average person in a 7 year loan got it because the payments on the 6 year loan were too high. Once you’re pretty well set on a trajectory to a decent retirement, leveraged investing isn’t the worst thing to do with your money. It’s riskier than just paying cash for the car, but you’re playing with extra money anyway.
Dave’s 90% right for 90% of the people; that’s as good any anyone gets on much of anything.
There is one way where Dave is really good with people in ways that I will never understand. I got my son to listen to him to load up on cautionary tales and, after a week, sonny comes back with this criticism: shouldn’t you pay off high interest rate credit cards first instead of the smallest debt? Of course, son: your math is flawless. But Dave’s advice is for the sort of person that needs emotional help and small wins; if the debtor already was in trouble on more than one credit card, following smart math was never going to be his strong suit.
For some people, the road back from stupid can’t be as direct and quick as we might wish for them.
I agree with all of this. reddit.com/r/personalfinance is also a good place to go read a large number of cautionary stories
The people he features as successes on his show don’t seem to be idiots. I think there’s some merit simply in emphasizing the self-discipline his “program” takes. Some of those stories are pretty impressive.
His is basically the Millionaire Nextdoor schtick, but that was 1996 dollars that book was written about. The principles are still the same, but being a millionaire is not a big deal: I wish that were money. For a professional couple living in a reasonable place and grossing $200k, modest self-control and steady investing will more than get you there. When a guy comes on the show and he’s part of a two-earner marriage, they count the equity in his house, and they don’t accrue tax liabilities for his traditional IRA, it really oversells the idea. But you can be a millionaire is still a better message than give up and the state of New York will take care of you.
With discipline, I think taking a longer term loan is a way of mitigating risk.
Ramsey encourages people to buy a home with a 15 year mortgage.
Personally, I don’t like being locked into the higher payment of a 15 year loan. I like a 30 year loan we could pay on one income, but pay it as though it was a 15 year loan.
If one of us loses a job we just adjust our payment down to compensate until we resolve our work situation. No stress, no fuss, no begging the lender for mercy.
Regrettably, a lot of people see the difference in what is paid monthly on a 15 year loan and 30 year loan and that difference begins to look an awful lot like a more expensive house, BMW, fishing boat, or RV instead of a buffer to protect them from financial difficulty.
I have the same approach. I’m paying my 30 year mortgage at a repayment rate that will clear it in 7 years. Plus, I’d have ended up with a much higher interest rate if I’d gotten a shorter term loan.
higher interest rate if I’d gotten a shorter term loan
eh?
You’ve never seen that? If you take out a shorter term loan, the rate goes up to compensate the bank.
I’m with Don here, what? The rate on a 15 year is always* lower than a 30 year.
*maybe I am wrong, but I don’t think so.
15 is usually lower
because bonds usually are; we’re in a weird time lately with the yield curve, but normally you should get a solid point off 15 over 30Y. If you’re not seeing it, it’s because rates are historically low (doesn’t matter much) or the bond market needs a month to straighten back out.
I have never seen the rates go lower on shorter term. Though I don’t typically go shopping for loans.
I didn’t spot check these data, but I have no reason to believe that this graph isn’t accurate.
Notice the delta went from 0.5% to more like 1.0% over the past 25Y.
You are right that the bank does do a few things to get more cash to scale on the 15Y, but that’s on a fixed basis and dwarfed by the APR and time effects.
As for the yield curve, I’m guessing the recent scare has already provided everyone with enough lectures with subjective rationales for why long term rates should be higher than short term rates.
If you scroll down to the bottom of this page, you can see the rate chart for today. Almost no reason to do a 20 year, but 0.5% reason to go with a 15
Your math is sound.
Dave’s backdoor point is that people buy too much house starting out; the 15Y note focuses them on what they really need. He wouldn’t object to a grounded couple buying much more house when they can afford it.
Good thread.
https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1179032357866758144
Sums up pretty much why kulturkampf is over; the elites won and the plebes lost.
Now where’d I stash that liquor?
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they laugh at you some more, then they win.
Trump’s election opened their eyes to how full of shit traditional conservatives and “libertarians” like TOS are. Doesn’t mean they are giving up, they are just looking for alternatives – hence the mainstream hate for all things “alt”.
Latest example of the cronyism
Cesar Romero is 4th on this list of villains from the version of Batman starring Adam West. This list is from the network actually showing it in the US.
handitv.com/lists/all-37-villains-from-the-batman-tv-series-ranked
Frank Gorshin is #1, that’s all that matters.
Tied apparently. With the correct #1, Julie Newmar. #2 would be Eartha Kitt.
I remember a Twighlight Zone where Julie Newmar play the devil. She could have my soul back then.
Of Late I Think of Cliffordville, part of season 4, which was rarely seen in reruns as the run time for that season was upped to an hour instead of the half hour seasons.
Miss Devlin:)
I thought Jim Carey played a good Riddler in one of the Bat-Man movies.
Insert Robert Downey Eyeroll GIF here.
With those two actors, the fact that B&R was that horrible should have had that director expelled from the country.
Did you see the debate in the PM thread yesterday? That’s wrong. He was the best.
Sorry Rufus, Hamill is the best Joker. He has spent more time as the Joker then anyone else (at least 5 television series, 4 video games, and several movies).
There is no other.
I don’t know what people are talking about with these pretenders.
Its cartoon vo work. Should it count?
I brought that up yesterday. One does voice over the other acts. I want to see Mark Hamil ACT the Joker.
Voice Acting is still acting.
Fair enough.
But a different kind.
As an example, one of the few times I actually liked Superman. The world of cardboard speech.
For something based on a comic book? Absolutely.
Same as Conway is Batman and Clancy Brown is Lex Luthor. The DCAU did a great job casting voice talent to match the characters. If only the movies would have been half as good.
Clancy Brown is a great talent. He was like the William Smith of the 80’s.
Fun Fact, Conroy was the first actor to use a different voice for Wayne than for Batman when playing the part.
And I still have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that the Kurgan was Luthor.
/hangs head in shame at a typo.
My surprise look:
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/469781804861075949/?nic=1
I do it all the time at work.
“Did you see the debate in the PM thread yesterday?” Yes. You were not the only one posting in it.
Pop, sizzle and catty!
Although sometimes I think I AM ALONE even when I’m not.
Sometimes I’m not alone even when I am.
A trio of compliments?
About a third of auto loans for new vehicles taken in the first half of 2019 had terms of longer than six years, according to credit-reporting firm Experian PLC. A decade ago, that number was less than 10%.
Years and years ago, I was watching some financial-type show, and there was a guy saying, “If you want to buy a car, but you can’t afford the payments on a three year loan, YOU CAN”T AFFORD THAT CAR. Don’t buy it.”
That was a simpler time.
Cars do last longer today than they used to though.
Yup, I have a 2008 4Runner with 180K miles on it that runs great and has only ever needed routine maintenance.
three year loan
cash or GTFO
/ hates being so predictable; don’t worry, ain’t typing all that out again
This.
/guy who used to have a 7 year loan on his car, but paid it off early and will never have a car loan ever again
I don’t see ever taking out a loan to buy a car, especially when you can go out and buy a used car in practically new condition because someone took out a big loan to buy it and then found that they couldn’t afford the payments.
Then again, I’m not really “into” cars. It’s a utility for me: go from point A to point B without using a lot of gas.
The Man Who Counted All Prostitutes in New York City: John R. McDowall and the Scandal of the Magdalen Report
https://journals.openedition.org/ejas/12604
So how many were there?
He could only count five at any one time?
Speaking of cars, and ridiculousness. I’d rather have a 1500 pound car with a 200 horsepower motor than some elephantine monster with a motor that belongs in a garbage truck (or a pulling traktur).
I wouldn’t spend the money on it, but still pretty cool.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/2020-corvette-stingray-convertible-and-its-price-have-been-revealed
I was going “That’s ugly as sin”, but the moment I saw it was a hardtop convertable I suddenly liked it for some odd reason.
Side view reminds me a little of the old Ferrari 308GT’s which I always liked.
It’s a huge bang for your buck. But lets be real here, they’re just going to be a bunch of garage queens. It bothers me that they went full euro super car, but I get it.
What was the last year that Corvette was not a garage queen?
I seem to regularly get into arguments at the car rental counter when I reserve a car and they try to give me a shitty little SUV.
“that. Its also apparently considered “samboing and mammying” to forgive someone to at least one high-profile assclown. ”
I thought he might get beat up in the comments, but nope. Everyone thinks the brother is a traitor to his race for hugging and forgiving her.
Yeah, I saw that. I don’t know why White Supremist feel the need to be racist against black people. Seems like there are plenty of black people willing to do that job themselves. I mean Sambo and Mammy? Seriously?
It really is a sad state of affairs when people place racial identity politics over the grace someone shows while forgiving the person who killed his brother.
Nasheed is a pathetic, petty man.
And the original “Little Black Sambo” was Indian (South Asian) not African and the book was somewhat forward-thinking for its day.
While I don’t feel much pity for Guyger, that photo choked me up a little bit. It takes one hell of a kind, forgiving, magnanimous person to do that. He has my utmost respect. I’m surprised not at all that the vile race baiters are calling him a sambo.
It’s hard for the virtue signallers when the actual victim shows forgiveness. It makes their virtue signalling look the vapid shit it is.
Plus, if they’ve shown us anything, it’s that there is no forgiveness or tolerance for wrong thinkers. Only shame, confession, subjugation and finally erasure Winston Smith style.
If Senate Republicans has an ounce of courage, they would be arranging to hear testimony from Viktor Shokin.
Sounds like Barr is getting the goods on Mifsud right now.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/barr-went-to-rome-to-hear-a-secret-tape-from-joseph-mifsud-the-professor-who-helped-ignite-the-russia-probe
Barr’s brought on an assistant as well, John Durham. Brennan appears to be scared shitless, an excellent sign as far as I’m concerned.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/william-barr-has-john-brennan-concerned-about-doj-inquiry-into-russia-investigation-origins
The only way this clears up is to abolish the CIA.
I’m becoming more convinced of that by the day.
They’ve elevated themselves above the elected government, which is an untenable situation for a constitutional republic. They must be absolutely beholden to elected officials. Any resistance must be squashed in the same manner that Truman squashed MacArthur.
Part of the problem is that we don’t even know they are.
It’s hated by both parties except when it’s harming one of the parties more than the other. Which is why it will never be abolished. Fuck, I bet the public as a whole hates it, but that doesn’t matter one iota in the equation.
Billy! Too Daze Gone
Saw him in concert with Def Leppard. Actually worked my way up to the front of the stage. Didn’t last long but was cool at the moment.
Killed his career via flouncing.
That damn noise…
Just outside the office window is a construction site, and whatever equipment they’re running there is producing a constant tone that is driving me insane.
My office is in a small marina where most of the building is surrounded by exposed steel girders and railings with cement porches and steel steps, all of which is painted with a dark battleship grey. There’s always at least a few square feet that are rusting out, and so there’s always a crew of guys with hammers (pneumatic and manual), grinders, and stick welders. Which is why I listen to a lot of podcasts and death metal via headphones.
Ugh.
A couple years ago, when I switched back to second shift (happily) after a long stretch on first, I was looking forward to my first morning getting to sleep in until 10. That very morning at about 7 AM, I heard this Earth-shaking racket; objects in my room were literally shaking. I looked out the window and saw a backhoe smashing into the sidewalk like a glutton cracking through the shell of a creme brulee. Turns out they were upgrading all the gas lines in town. For the next three weeks, I was woken up by that horrid noise every single day.
Noise is one area where it’s hard for me to be a libertarian. I don’t mean construction or maintenance noise; that’s necessary. But I mean loud music, cars that are modified to be louder, etc. I begrudgingly admit that it’s your right to do these things even if it makes you an asshole to your neighbors.
The Ice Cream Truck always gets the same reaction from me – I hate the noise it makes just rambling around the neighborhood over and over again. Winter will be here soon, and it will go into hibernation for a few months.
Right before dawn, all year long, our block fills up with surfers. For some reason, the sound of wax being applied to dozens of surfboards at the same time is something I find particularly grating.
Finished up the Part of the Problem podcast about the impeachment. The Part that upset me the most was Dave getting weak ass criticism from weak ass libertarians, because in his debate he said he cared that the presidential candidate for the LP be antiwar antifed, but he didn’t say he would be against a white supremacist who wanted to install a white ethno-state.
Seriously, it sounds like I’m exaggerating but that was the argument.
Why the fuck is it even necessary to say that? The assumption should be that if you accept the first principle of treating people as individuals instead of as members of a collective, then it rules out that proposal from any consideration.
The LP is lowering itself to the discourse level of the Democrats.
“Why the fuck is it even necessary to say that?”
That was Dave’s spot-on response.
There seems to be a contingent of beltway libertarian that has absolutely guzzled the SJW cool-aid. Race and condemning the right people trump every other issue and principle. What’s funny is most libertarians ignore these people and their prog friends will still call them Nazi’s at the end of the day.
They really are pushing the thick libertarianisim. The person in question even said that libertarianisim requires that you hold certain social positions.
“What’s funny is most libertarians ignore these people and their prog friends will still call them Nazi’s at the end of the day.”
This. And to me it betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of what it’s about. They don’t want to be associated with being nice to racists in any way for any reason. They have no conviction in liberty.
As someone else said their North Star is “socially liberal”……they don’t really comprehend the role of the state or what liberty truly is.
Yup.
No more “get the state out of the boardroom and the bedroom”. Now it’s “get the state out of the boardroom and firmly in the bedroom”.
They are the culture warriors now. Just ask some bakers, among others.
“thick libertarianisim”
They’re not pushing that.
Sarwark said there is no room for people like Woods, Horton, or Paul. They’re pushing white liberalism and pretending like it’s libertarian because weed and prostitution.
Sarwark perfectly encapsulates Ann Coulter’s old slur against libertarians that she made on Stossel twelve years ago: libertarians are cowards because they’ll tell their progressive friends about how much they love pot and prostitution, but they’ll never say that they oppose minimum wage or the welfare state.
Stossel dismissed her slur at the time, but he has since admitted that there is more truth in what she said than not.
Isn’t thick libertarianism the thought that you can’t just endorse the NAP, but that libertarianism requires the endorsment of certain social views as well? Very popular on both sides, but you often see it with reason types conflating treating people equally and fairly (a nice and good sentiment in my opinion) with being a libertarian. Nothing in libertarianism says that a person has to be nice, or fair. It just says they shouldn’t initiate aggression.
Any brand of “libertarianism” that requires you to expunge people who oppose big government is not really about “small government”, though, in actuality.
There is nothing “thick” about what they are proposing. They are suggesting that the emphasis on restraining and reducing government be abandoned in favor of just selling out to white progressives. That’s about all there is to what they are arguing.
And the same people who mourned the passing of John McCain and bemoaned the end of the Weekly Standard, while wholly ignoring the passing of Justin Raimondo (who forced the LP to take on a pro-gay agenda and worked closely with Rothbard in opposing the warfare state) are, by definition, Vichy Libertarians and can be rightly ignored when they are not being mocked.
The correct answer is always “I would tolerate anyone who adheres to first principles, but to ask if I’d do so for a person advocating a white ethnic-state is an absurd proposition and I won’t be dragged into the mud by being accused of endorsing such an absurd hypothetical in the most diverse nation in the world.”
but to ask if I’d do so for a person advocating a white ethnic-state is an absurd proposition
A thought that’s occurred to me, though. Let’s say you had a real, honest-to-God racist. He believed in the whole white supremacy thing. Only, he also fully believed in libertarianism. So as much as he hated all of those he considered to be of lesser races, he also didn’t think the government should do anything about them, didn’t think he or anyone else had the right to initiate violence against them, and thought all of their rights should be respected. What exactly would the problem be? That he said mean things about them? That he avoided interacting with them?
“What exactly would the problem be? That he said mean things about them? That he avoided interacting with them?”
This isn’t even really a hypothetical. It’s pretty much reality.
I watched that debate between Steve Bannon and David Frum with a friend of mine who seriously suffers from TDS, but he won’t admit it. As he applauded the audience members who were booing Steve Bannon I just said that this debate highlighted the moral bankruptcy of the West. David Frum is, no doubt, responsible for more death than Bannon and yet, because orange man says things that offend the sensibilities of the upper class we are to pretend as if Bannon is somehow worse than noted genocide apologist, David Frum.
That’s moral bankruptcy.
“their prog friends will still call them Nazi’s at the end of the day”
That’s really the funniest part.
I seriously couldn’t stop laughing reading all the Reason columnists begging their white liberal betters to not celebrate David Koch’s passing. It was hilarious. You virtue signal so hard and they still mock your death. Very deserving.
Marshal Pétain would be proud
Only heard about the tiff from the Tom Woods podcast. Doesn’t sound like I missed anything.
The debate was ok. I didn’t care for the following podcast. Dave extracts some pretty damning admissions from Sarwark but overall it’s a very abrupt, combative episode that I tired of by the time it was over. Plus I’d already written Sarwark off over a year ago so there was nothing interesting about it for me
The LP is the Nick Gillespie of political parties at this point, if we’re being honest.
Prediction: the next presidential candidate will be pro-intelligence community (that’s really a given at this point) along with the common pro-war disposition of their presidential candidates for the past ten years.
The alternative that wasn’t
I’ve been flirting with the idea of becoming a dues paying member to support the Mises Caucus. Or do remain registered as a Republican so I can support Paul acolytes in primaries…….
Voting is stupid but whatareyagonnado?
I gotta go throw my mayoral vote away in a minute
and vote against the tax increase for moar copzzz!!1!11!!
Local voting is the only voting that might actually matter. Sadly there also seems to be no end to the number of dupes willing to throw more money at teachers and cops.
Even better is the vote you have when you don’t duck jury duty.
During the course of my lifetime, I have yet to meet a teacher that was paid enough or a politician that would say teachers were paid enough.
One of my business clients is a elementary school teacher and just had a fund-raiser in his 4000+ SF home for the Dem governor here and explained to me how he was going to give him a piece of his mind for not keeping his promises to teachers. The guy drives a fucking Jaguar.
Not to argue your point, but you do remind me of the greatest teacher I ever had, who took a salary of $1.
That is awesome.
The problem(s) I have with the new Corvette, aside from the fact that I really just don’t have any interest in owning one (I’d much rather have a Caterham):
No clutch pedal, meaning no manual gearbox.
A “supercar” in the 21st century should not have pushrods. I don’t give a shit how many torques it makes. For fuck’s sake, you can get an overhead cam (Coyote) engine in a goddam Ford pickup truck. Yeah, yeah, I get it; triumph of development over design, et c, but fuck that. If GM can’t build a four cam motor by now, they are seriously deficient in the design and engineering dept.
I need to reread Beast soon. The challenges they went through to create a 1000hp pushrod were extreme.
cash or GTFO
I have never paid more than fifteen hunnert bucks for a car. Cash, of course. I have ended up with substantially more than that in them, but…
Thatsa spicy meatball!
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/italian-tv-presenter-diletta-leotta
No one needs more than three Ts in a name.
Naples. Of course.
Other than that….can they at least try to dress more professionally?
There seems to be a contingent of beltway libertarian that has absolutely guzzled the SJW cool-aid.
“Vichy libertarian” is pretty good.
Vichy libertarian is mine! I demand attribution!
Fuck off slaver.
I’m going to start copyrighting my witty monikers.
Fuck you, Kinsella!
Vichytarian?
Why, you son-of-a-vitch!
I demand attribution!
Copyright is theft, man.
God damn you, Kinsella! God damn you to hell!
Should we pre-judge a hypothetical Biden presidency based on his voting record, what he says during this current election cycle, or what is on his official website?
You should probably ask his neurologist what to expect.
I think we’d be laughing just as much as we do at Trump but for different reasons. I can also see Crazy Uncle Joe having an unfortunate accident pretty quickly if he foolishly chooses an ambitious young VP.
I’m wondering if he can be Pre-Impeached for a Quid-Pro-Quo deal with the Ukrainian Government.
Pre-Impeached
I chuckled.
Along those lines, Trump should be impeached, convicted, dragged out of office screaming, and then promptly re-elected; that would be the ideal proof that all checks and balances are sound
/ can’t remotely imagine eating that much popcorn
And the Impeachment should go all the way like a for-real trial. That means confronting accusers under oath and calling Hillary, Obama, and the Bidens to the stand to be cross-examined by the defense. And giving Trump himself the opportunity to testify in his defense.
Rate him on
where his ties and caps are manufactured
the quality of his mail-order steaks
his how-to-be-a-real-estate-tycoon university
total bankruptcies
pussy grabbing
We don’t want just any hack in the White House.
Biden is more likely to be the nominee than Gabbard or Yang. Yang and Gabbard as hypothetical presidents and/or their policy positions are much more talked about on this site than what a Biden presidency would look like and which set of policy positions to consider.
Skipping over the links and other comments, I seek the advice of the Gilbertariat: WTactualF is a GeoLibertarian? A brief review of the link someone provided had me thinking of Inigo Montoya: “I don’t think that word means what you think it means…”
The line in question from
: Geolibertarians generally support redistributing land rent from private landholders to all community members by way of a land value tax as proposed by Henry George and others before him.
In what universe does any (Scotsman alert) self-respecting libertarian think that redistributing _anything_ that’s in private ownership is a good idea? And who’s this Henry George clown?
Sounds like a socialist.
That was exactly my thought!
crap… note blockquote, URL tag
Wikipedia Geolibertarianism page
I don’t know, ask robc.
As for Henry George, he was an American Economist, who’s book briefly outsold the bible.
You guys need to stop shitting on Georgists. Albert Jay Nock was a Georgist.
And the US would be in a better place if Henry George still loomed large among with Left rather than socialist goobly gook
My principles don’t allow me to give leniency to people who try to switch symantic frames of reference to bolster their justification for taxing merely existing.
So, a tax on land is a tax for “merely existing” as opposed to a “sales tax” and an “income tax” which are different somehow? I really don’t get that argument
I never said those were not also abominable taxes on existing.
I take umbrage at the assertion that property taxes are somehow moral because bullshit reasons.
I don’t think the reasons are “bullshit”.
Adam Smith and Ricardo also believed that a land tax was the least economically inefficient way of levying taxes. George didn’t just crap out this idea out of nowhere. The physiocrats in France (who are considered to be forerunners to liberal economics) were also pimping the idea of a “land tax”, as opposed to all the myriad of taxes that the crown levied arbitrarily.
How do you “own” land in the much fabled, but never existing, “state of nature”? You don’t.
Mises in his book “Socialisim” talks about this too. While he doesn’t come in favor of a land tax, he very clearly states that you are only in possession of land by force, and it is only until society comes to an agreement to recognize title and rights and protect those rights that your entitlement to property means anything.
How do you “own” land in the much fabled, but never existing, “state of nature”? You don’t.
You purchase it from the deed holder. Or if it’s unclaimed, you put a fence around it and claim it.
Even ancaps concede that private courts must exist for the purpose of deed and ownership over land and goods.
If even anarchists accept that a legal code must exist for all to recognize one’s claim over a land, I fail to see why a Georgist then coming along and saying “and therefore in a minarchist state land taxes are the only justifiable taxes to fund said courts” is so insane.
But why should the whole court be funded by landowners? Can’t it be funded through a fee-based system where claimants pay filing fees and defendants only pay when they wind up on the losing end?
The land tax ends up funding a lot of stuff the landowner won’t ever participate in or agree to be a party of. That doesn’t sound tight, does it?
If even anarchists accept that a legal code must exist for all to recognize one’s claim over a land,
This is simply wrong, though. It’s merely the preferred way to recognize one’s claim. The other way is to BUILD. THAT. WALL! and defend it with force.
“But why should the whole court be funded by landowners? Can’t it be funded through a fee-based system where claimants pay filing fees and defendants only pay when they wind up on the losing end?”
Yeah and that’s a fair counter argument. I’m not a Georgist, I just don’t get the hatred for him.
It’s important to note that Henry George and his followers were not anarchists. They very much supported a minarchist state (amazingly there was a time when the Left was demanding a more restrained state before upper income whites came to dominate the movement and statism became the preferred organizing principle). And in a minarchist state, a land tax would be the least economically inefficient way to levy taxes.
George wasn’t arguing from first principles or the non-aggression principle. He was arguing from the standpoint of economic inefficiency (much like most classical economists based their arguments about taxes).
“defendants only pay when they wind up on the losing end?”
The problem with that is when the loser plaintiff has next to nothing to take.
And in a minarchist state, a land tax would be the least economically inefficient way to levy taxes.
I’ve heard that argument before (and I believe I may have written an article about it a while ago), but I never felt like I agreed on the premise. I don’t buy that the supply curve for land is vertical. IOW, I think this is wrong, and haven’t read any convincing argument otherwise.
That, of course, sets aside the problems of economic efficiency being a shitty way to run society, a complete lack of convincing explanation how non-land property is any different, and a serious detriment in the fact that other taxes are much more avoidable than property/land tax.
That’s because it’s not. They try to use the economic defitions of supply curve and deadweight loss while playing sleiught of hand and substituting the vernacular definition of supply for the economic one.
There is definately a slope to the amount of land available for sale on the market at any given price, which is what all of the supply curve math is supposed to be based off of, not the vernacular “we can’t create more” no slope definition.
“That’s because it’s not. They try to use the economic defitions of supply curve and deadweight loss while playing sleiught of hand and substituting the vernacular definition of supply for the economic one.”
It’s bold of you to dismiss the conclusions reached by Smith, Ricardo, the physiocrats, and practically all liberal economists preceding World War II
If those conclusions require swapping definitions midstream, then they’re wrong. Not my fault they’ve been that way for a while.
I’m actually sympathetic to robc’s views of georgisim, because at least then we agree that all other taxes are illegitimate.
Hypothetically:
Taxes are illegitimate.
The ideal level of government is greater than zero.
Government needs to be paid for.
The proper way to fund government is to abolish taxes and the kind(s) of borrowing to be repaid by taxes and instead use money voluntarily donated. If you like your farm subsidies, NASA, etc., then you can keep them if you can get them voluntarily paid for.
I guess i set you up for that….
Posting the same response in the same thread is a Hihn move bro….
The speculation continues. Sock for TPTB. Ken Schultz. FBI. Now, MichaeI Hihn. Unless you meant ‘Holy Is His Name’.
Oddly enough you forgot Tulpa!
/Cocks eyebrow
Fair point. Also, MIkeS claimed “troll” using logic that would lead to SugarFree and Pan Z in the same comments below the article being trolls.
Try again. Perhaps count the number of premises in each argument before you say the logic is the same?
Judge for yourself, Not Adahn:
Rufus the Monocled on October 2, 2019 at 3:12 pm
Non-sequitur: The greatest Joker ever was CESAR ROMERO.
Donation Not Taxation on October 2, 2019 at 3:16 pm
You misspelled his name. It’s Mark Hamill.
MikeS on October 2, 2019 at 4:33 pm
OK, I’m sure now. He’s a troll.
Donation Not Taxation on October 2, 2019 at 7:30 pm
Is SugarFree a troll? 3:18 pm today: “The way the Joker is written now, Hamill comes closest in Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker.”
Is Pan Zagloba a troll? 3:25 pm today: “Hamill/Conroy are so far ahead of the field it’s not even fair.”
“Conroy” is Kevin Conroy as Batman
Lighten up, Francis.
Pretty sure MikeS was just making a joke. These accusations don’t come from a place of hostility, it’s just that you have a schtick that you refuse to give up on and sometimes don’t have a sense of humor about.
DNT:
You’re still missing a premise, but don’t sweat it.
Lighten up, Francis.
Henry George believed in eliminating all taxes, outside of land taxes. He called for free trade at a time when protectionism was still the economic theory most dominate.
All George did was say “in order to own property you need someone to recognize the contract and enforce your rights on that land, ergo those who own property should pay a tax for this”. All other taxes he thought were economically inefficient. David Ricardo and Adam Smith also said that a land tax is the least economically inefficient way to raise tax revenues.
Again, let those who have read “Progress and Poverty” cast the first stone.
*Groans*
Not another Georgist debate
There are boring children in India who’d love to be able to debate Georgism, young man! Your father works and slaves every day to make sure we have enough Georgism to debate! You’ll debate your Georgism and like it!
Sigh… Fine! While George Jefferson is fantastic, George Roper, being the ur-Roper (Man About The House, George And Mildred) and thus the progenitor of Norman Fell’s wonderful Stanley Roper, is the best George.
Good job! Now, you only have to briefly mention David Lloyd George and then you can talk about deep dish for desert.
I’d argue in favor of George Jetson being the greatest George, but he’s not even been born yet.
You raise a fine point sir. George Jetson also makes a nice Alpha & Omega with George of the Jungle.
The correct greatest George is Boy George. He’ll even tumble for ya.
Ummm….George Thorogood is obviously the best “George”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ECZMvbLxg
The Possum is the greatest George, but he stopped loving her in 2013
Ever been to Hardin County?
I can’t argue with that – https://youtu.be/QShJFM7EoCw
I would posit a special mention for the double whammy of George Patton and George C. Scott playing Patton.
King George III, St. George, Bailey, Burns, Bush, Carlin, Carver, Clooney, Costanza, Curious, Custer, Eliot, Foreman, Gershwin, Gorgeous, Hamilton, Handel, Harrison, Lucas, Martin, Michael, Orwell, Patton, Shaw, Takei, Wallace, Washington, Weasley, Wendt, and Westinghouse
And, to satisfy Naptown Bill: “That thief, Lloyd George.” — Upstairs, Downstairs. Also https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7362341/Lloyd-George-sex-obsessed-kept-mistress-downstairs.html
Phyllis George
GEORGE OF THE JUNGLE.
drops mic. Leaves Glibertarians.com forever.
George of the Jungle did not make the list because l0b0t already mentioned him this Glibs time morning.
He didn’t capitalize it. Fail.
robc? Wanna field this one?
AFAIK, “Men did not make the earth. It is the value of the improvements only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property.” – Thomas Paine
AFAIK, Henry George proposed abolishing all taxes and replacing them with a single tax on “the income from the use of bare land but not from improvements”.
As for whether or not this is consistent with libertarianism, first define libertarianism.
Hope this helps.
To Paine’s quote, it’s interesting as a thought experiment to recast taxation as a fee you pay everyone else to recognize your right to something. So, a land tax is in essence your giving all of your neighbors (via the state) some compensation in exchange for their recognizing your exclusive ownership, which only exists at their sufferance.
The proper way to fund government is to abolish taxes and the kind(s) of borrowing to be repaid by taxes and instead use money voluntarily donated. If you like your farm subsidies, NASA, etc., then you can keep them if you can get them voluntarily paid for.
Trying to think of an income that can be made from strictly bare land. Other than selling the dirt itself or harvesting and selling what grows naturally on it, doesn’t it necessarily have to be improved to produce income?
Does libertarianism answer the question of whether taxes should exist at all? If so why? To whom do we owe taxes for the privilege of being born? Everyone already born?
/Napolitano mode off
Other than selling the dirt itself or harvesting and selling what grows naturally on it, doesn’t it necessarily have to be improved to produce income?
Ricardians would point to rents, but the rents themselves are dependent on the productivity of land in general. But in essence, they would say you are able to make money off of land without improving it by speculating and renting it off to other people.
Okay, I would agree with that.
I suppose the Ricardians don’t address the question of to whom the land owner owes taxes and the justification for them?
So, let’s say I buy a bunch of land in the woods and put a house in the middle. Let’s say I’ve got four acres of borderland around my house and yard because I don’t want neighbors. How is the unimproved land evaluated? I don’t want to sell it because I like privacy. I have no intention of improving it because I like the woodland. Does the state then come around and say, “Well, according to us, we’ve decided that someone would probably pay you $XX,XXX.XX for this, so we’re charging you a percentage of that arbitrary number we came up with.”?
AFAIK, Henry George’s solution to the problem was to base the assessment on either actual rents for the land being taxed or, if the land was unrented, on rents in the area. Current IRL US property taxes are not completely arbitrary but are based on algorithms. Remember, tax assessments can be appealed, so Procedures Must Be Followed, or at least close enough for government work.
I know the city bases property tax on an assessment based in part on comparables in the immediate area, which, in turn, are in part influenced by the value of the assessment. I just wonder what that looks like when you’ve got a curmudgeon like myself who is buying land specifically because there aren’t people around it, hence no comparable rents in the area.
First Disclaimer: It’s been ~6 years since i took my History of Economic Thought course, so i might be misrepresenting the Ricardians here.
Ricardian theory of Rent goes like this: A land lord/rentier is able to rent out his land for the marginal productivity it holds against other lands. For example say you have 3 plots of land A, B, C. Lets say C can produce 10 units of food, B 15, and A 20 in every year. If 10 units of food a year is the lowest you can go to be profitable/not loose money then the owner of plot B and A could charge 5 and 10 Units of Food in rent because their lands are that more productive than the least productive profitable plot of land.
What implication that has on taxes, Ricardo didn’t really go into, but he was not a fan of the rentier class (despite being an aristocrat himself). Also know that Ricardo was a classical economist, so his theories were based off of a Labor theory of value. I don’t know if the Neo-Ricardians have adjusted for subjective value theory or not but i would assume they have.
Other than selling the dirt itself
What would anyone ignore that? Bauxite, oil, lots of substantial and arguably imperative uses of property are captured by this notion
Therein lies the problem. Those deciding the value have a vested interest in high value, therefore high taxes. Someone needs to pay for government, not the government you want but the government the administrators want. Hey, they like shiny things too. If all taxes were stuck onto land value we couldn’t pay the interest.
Renters pay the taxes, not the land owner. A businessman needs to charge the rate for his goods/services that includes the taxes, if he wants to stay in business. It matters not a whit how the taxes are levied.
Ok, I’ll answer seriously now that I’ve shitposted enough.
I think for a given value of libertarianism, certainly of classical liberalism, there are compromises you make in order to ensure the most individual liberty based on what that means to you. The very act of allowing that there should be any kind of government whatsoever requires ceding some of your freedom to someone else for what you hope to be a more free and/or more just society. In that regard, while I am not personally a fan of the land value tax, I don’t think that it’s categorically incompatible with liberalism or libertarianism. Now, I cannot see how you could possibly justify it in an anarcho-capitalist society, but that’s not the argument, nor do I think of ancaps as libertarians.
One guess what my position is on that.
One more thing from the Part of the Problem Podcast:
Dave played a bit from Adam Shciff’s statement at the Intelligence committee meeting regarding Trumps phone call with the President of Ukraine. I’m convinced. It’s not that Shciff is stupid. It’s that he counts on the rest of us being retarded. How else do you explain him getting up and just flat out making shit up? I’ve read the transcript, Trump did not say the things Schiff says he said. And of course everyone who hasn’t read the transcript will say, well he couldnt just make shit up, because then the truth would come out and he’d look like an asshole…
He’s not stupid. It worked. All the unspoken rules that held society and government together are being challenged. I think it was just a matter of time until impeachment became another tool by which the party of power turned to immediately. Nobody cares about cricket rules of fair play when Hitler or Stalin is about take over.
Has he been censured or penalized in any way for making shit up in the past? Is he getting more or less attention for his showboating? Is he in danger of losing his seat for his unethical behavior?
Exactly. It played perfectly to the dem base and he’ll suffer zero consequences for it.
That was unsettling to me. This asshole knows he can read a made up statement and the lapdog media will present sound bites in such a way that casual listeners won’t be able to distinguish what was Schiff’s ad libing from what Trump actually said. They aren’t even pretending they aren’t propaganda and our fat, complacent populous can’t be bothered to care.
I don’t know, my wife is my barometer as to what the leftist TDS population is thinking and she hasn’t said shit about this lately. It’s like it never happened.
Hate to sound like a broken record, but Trump and his supporters brought all this crap on themselves by not taking the 2018 House elections seriously.
I’m sure this article has already been posted, but it’s further proof that the media in this country is disgusting. USA Today intentionally cropped out a portion of the video and picture that shows another kid also giving the “ok” sign. Not to forget there is nothing racist about the ok sign to begin with.
https://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2019/10/02/universal-orlando-resort-character-made-ok-symbol-girls-shoulder/3836019002/
Here is the actual picture
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7529011/Black-family-outraged-Universal-Studios-character-OK-white-power-hand-sign.html
It is racist, because some guys made up a reason, and then some racists decided to go along with it, and therefore it’s racists. And now anyone who uses that symbol is a racist, whether they know it or not, because we’ve decided to cede any moral reasoning about this to racists. Why? because it allows us to stoke more fears about how common white-nationalism is in the nation.
It also precludes the use of a common flippant gesture when someone is screaming “RHEEEE!!!!” at you. Good thing the trusty middle finger is still available.
Those concerned parents are assholes. I wonder if they were making that sign behind the camera in order to ensnare someone, otherwise why would the kid be doing it too?
Geolibertarians generally support redistributing land rent from private landholders to all community members by way of a land value tax as proposed by Henry George and others before him.
Not this again.
Yes. Again. Suffer.
Now I have to go find last night’s South Park episode on demand.
‘South Park’ Calls Out Hollywood for Catering to Communist China
“You got to lower your ideals of freedom if you want to suck on the warm teat of China.”
Sums up Democrats in one sentence.
I was surprised that after all the PC sucking up last season. They called out both the PRC and Hollywood directly and pointedly throughout the episode.
You’re welcome.
They even brought Mickey Mouse back, that crazy fucker cracks me up every time.
So they manage to keep the shit and needles out of the ocean, but can’t quite get a handle on the straws? I’m smelling bullshit, and it’s not coming from an SF sidewalk.
No. It’s because all those assholes go and purposefully throw straws on the beach and in turtle nests.
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/10/02/rekt-daily-caller-says-state-ig-presented-committees-with-months-old-articles-about-dem-ties-to-ukraine/
apparently the scoop that the State Dept IG was going to go after POTUS for threatening retaliation was complete fabricated bullshit. shocked face 😐
the IG brought up past associations between Dems and Ukraine. when an Obama-appointed IG does this, it’s a not-so-subtle message that Schiff et al need to sit their crazy asses down.
I don’t think they’re going to listen. They’re just too far gone.
I doubt this is true, simply because it would make me happy if it were true.
The plight of a true libertarian.
The assumption should be that if you accept the first principle of treating people as individuals instead of as members of a collective, then it rules out that proposal from any consideration.
Because it’s a progressive bait-and-switch and the people pushing it know that or are utter morons. White supremacy is bad. What’s wrong with that? Who could have a problem with seeing the world that way? But, the next day, “white supremacy” starts meaning noting differences between the races. Well, okay. And the day after that it means tolerating people who think such things. And the day after that, it’s noting (or tolerating those who note) social pathologies in minority communities. And the day after that, it’s defining “white” (i.e. bourgeois) standards of acceptable and unacceptable behavior as the norm. The day after that, it’s microaggressions. And the day after that, it’s not denouncing toxic whiteness with sufficient vigor.
Smith, same as Woods, was absolutely right to refuse to take the bait.
“And the day after that, it’s not denouncing toxic whiteness with sufficient vigor.”
And this is where we seem to be at today. One can only wonder what tomorrow holds.
I thinks Smith has a good point when he says that libertarians who refuse to argue in good faith with the alt-right do not do anything to stop people from going to the alt-right. Shouting and yelling that “That’s not Okay” isn’t going to convince someone who might listen to the alt-right. To argue in good faith you have to be willing to listen to their arguments. Unfortunately in today’s world listening to an argument without having a fit, means you must agree with any and everything that person is saying.
I don’t even think you have to argue with the alt-right. You just have to offer people up a principled third alternative between the alt-right’s bullshit and the left’s equally collectivist outrage mob. The irony is the alt-right and the woke left are just mirror images of each other the the heroes and villains in switched roles.
This is how political leaders should handle Greta Thunberg:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-shames-greta-thunberg-and-her-handlers-over-environmental-agenda
Love him or hate him, you have to admit he has chops.
“Sure, Greta is kind, but emotions should not control this issue,” said Putin.
“Go and explain to developing countries why they should continue living in poverty and not be like Sweden,” he added, before saying that it was deplorable how some groups are using Thunberg to achieve their own goals.
Can’t see where I can disagree with that.
Also, her and her folks in Antifa T-shirts? Yeah fuck them. 16 is close enough to adulthood I feel comfortable saying that, Assburgers or no.
I’m still not willing to jump on Thunberg because I honestly don’t believe she’s capable of really understanding the situation and because she’s been indoctrinated and manipulated by the adults around her. I am willing to say, however, that once you embrace Antifa you’re telling the world that you’re willing to use violence to promote your views, and if people react accordingly the blame lies with you.
Sadly, I am cynical that she ever reaches a point that she thinks for herself. Then your parents ensure that you’ve kept your head up your ass since childhood and it’s rewarded by a fawning media and millions of social network fans, she has no reason to reexamine her worldview.
Just as I pity the child soldier, I don’t wish her any harm but I sure as shit won’t treat her any different when she threatens me and mine.
She kind of makes me think of those kids who were raised on communes by hippies and name Starflower and shit like that. It seems like some of them are kind of stuck living out the dying fantasies of their idiot parents, some of them rebel all the way and become straight-laced, hard-nosed people who change their names to John or Steven or something, and some of them make a living talking about how fucked up their childhood was. I think in ten years Greta is in column A, unfortunately. If she’s lucky, maybe she gets to column C.
That’s an apt analogy. Option D might be that she becomes the leader (or at least figurehead) of the commune.
Nobody is really ripping the shit out of Greta, they’re ripping the shit out of the people that are exploiting her. And that includes all the media and tweeters who are praising her without having been within 100 miles of her – most of whom are behaving as if she is Autistic about everything expect their one pet policy where she is totally intelligent and rational and no disability whatsoever.
I do think there’s some rich irony in all these sycophants praising this brave Swedish child who dares to speak truth to power while they go absolutely apeshit against anyone who is even slightly critical of any part of this circus, including blasting them for being mean to a kid with disabilities.
Bob Boberson, confirmed Russian stooge.
also, Putin is correct.
There was a brief moment in time I was ashamed of this country. Obama’s out riding a bicycle in mom jeans and a helmet, and Putin’s out there riding a horse while half dressed. It was symbolic of everything wrong with him and the USA is becoming.
I didn’t vote for Trump and I’m not sure I can do it this time around, and he certainly is not any friend to freedom, but I am happy about his no-hold-barred approach to the left.
“Those who leave the tradition of truth do not escape into something which we call Freedom. They only escape into something else, which we call Fashion.”
Is that from Harry Brown’s Animal Farm?
How I Found Freedom in an Unfree Barnyard?
Dr. Suess in The Fountainhead?
“I have never been able to make out what the Progressive Movement is, except that it is rather like a policeman who always tells people to “move on,” without telling them where to go.”
I Had Trouble In Getting To Galt’s Gulchalew? https://youtu.be/BthLtRiF9NA
The Devil Wears Prada?
“Unfortunately science is only splendid when it is science. When science becomes religion it becomes superstition.”
SoyBoy, if you are lurking around this morning, I hope you are feeling better and on an emotional upswing. Have a wonderful day.
You’re good people.
Despite what everyone says about you behind your back. (j/k)
I missed that whole thing……read rumblings that he posted some suicidal/boarderline ban-hammer stuff?
Yes. I just felt sorry for the guy. At first I thought he was trolling, but then it became apparent he was just in a dark place.
I hate seeing stuff like that. This is a good place to vent and get things on your chest but if you are truly in a dark place and thinking about self-harm, get real, face-to-face help.
Fuck me.
I was logged in, wrote this ginormous post about how blessed we have been this week, then I go to post, and it says I have to be logged in AND I AM!!!
I guess God didn’t want me to post all that info.
Suffice it to say, the Mojeaux family caught a big life break this week. No, God is not a vending machine, but I prayed for a miracle I didn’t think I deserved so I didn’t think we’d get it, but we did.
Great news! Happy for you!
I get that same login dealio
but have for pretty much years been copying anything substantial before hitting the send button anyway; just keep a word doc open as a scratch pad
That’s great.
“No, God is not a vending machine, but I prayed for a miracle I didn’t think I deserved so I didn’t think we’d get it, but we did.”
You clearly understand how prayer works, which is a rarity nowadays as many people today seem to believe that God is a magical sky wizard that grants wishes
I was praying for something very specific, but very huge. A year ago, I would never have done dare approach God for that. But you do desperate things when you’re desperate and begging for such a huge relief was me being desperate.
There’s a reason why a desperate attempt at a long pass in football is called a “Hail Mary”.
I’m glad to hear of the Divine Providence!
many people today seem to believe that God is a magical sky wizard that grants wishes
I cringe anytime somebody uses “blessing” or “blessed” to refer only to material wealth. That mindset is all over Western Christianity.
I’ll save the rant on the modern church targeting their message to an audience of angsty 13 year olds, but I’ll just say that this is what happens when you don’t bother to actually teach and enact the disciplines laid out in the NT.
“I’ll save the rant on the modern church targeting their message to an audience of angsty 13 year olds”
Without knowing what Christian church you are referring to, I’m going to say “agreed”, because this pretty much covers almost all Christian churches nowadays.
https://babylonbee.com/news/devastated-stephen-curry-learns-context-philippians-413
It is difficult for me to enjoy non-material blessings when you’re in survival/crisis mode for years (because of one bad decision) and your stress is negatively affecting your blessings (in this case, our kids).
This wasn’t targeted at you in the slightest. It sounds like you have a good grasp of the topic.
There are more than a few people in my life that come to mind, though. Especially the ones who say “you must be so blessed” when they hear about something good that has happened to me.
I think the blessing is in the ability to endure beyond what you think you can suffer. I mean, finding a hundo on the sidewalk ain’t bad, either.
Fantastic news. Congrats.
I’m glad to hear the good news for you and yours.
That’s great news indeed. I’m sorry you were in such circumstances that is was needed.
Glad one of the good people caught a break.
However, it seems odd that the first word in a religiously oriented post would be that.
mormonwiki.com/Profanity
mormonrules.com/list/no-swearing-profanity
Is that your takeaway from my public expression of gratitude to God’s grace?
That might be WHY she caught the blessing.
I certainly hope that JHVH would appreciate a good dick joke, just like the rest of us.
Jesus was a carpenter’s son and He lived in a place with a lot of stone and low doorways. The odds that He never bumped His head or hit His thumb with a hammer are pretty damn low, so I’m sure He’s not unfamiliar with exclamations of profanity.
Relevant
By the authority vested in me entirely by myself (but backed up by my previously-posted Jabberwocky cred) I hereby declare today to be an Official Frabjous Day in honor of the Mojeaux family’s good fortune. All are bidden to chortle in joy.
(E-mail me the particulars pls? I have a hair appt this afternoon & would love to read the gory details while I sit with my hair stewing.)
I assume Comrade Sanders will be going to Cuba or Venezuela for treatment. It would be quite counter-revolutionary if he were to choose the bourgeois capitalist system over the people’s glorious free health care.
Are you dissing North Korea’s health care?
For all you corporate rat racers out there.
https://youtu.be/L95dVEJTYL8
corporate? I don’t even know how to get a job
That’s funny. So much truth:)
Wow, it is 40 degrees cooler today than yesterday. I wish the rain would stop so I can open more windows.
https://nypost.com/2019/10/02/watch-trump-supporters-chase-elizabeth-warren-through-nevada-airport/
I endorse giving Dems a dose of their own tactics.
Well, Warren appears to be in good health after seeing that quick jaunt through the terminal.
I have seen so many false flags and watched the left stir shit so much now the first thing I think is that those are paid operatives.
A bunch of Trumpistas with campaign signs just happened to be hanging around the airport with knowledge of Fauxcahantas’ travel schedule? Sure they were. I am pretty sure I saw Jesse Smollett peeking from around a corner in the background.
Its a strange world. I say 50/50 on whether they were DemOp activists.
They “chased” her?
They yelled slogans at her while following her at completely normal speed. At no point was she walking beyond a normal speed, and they didn’t make any attempt to apprehend her or do anything other than wave signs and shout slogans.
In other words, they did to her what Maxine Waters encouraged people to do to members of Trump’s administration.
“The heart-pounding clip lasts for 90 seconds, with Warren and her three staffers far outnumbered by the incensed mob who pursued her from her gate all the way to a waiting car.”
Get thee to a fainting couch, Ebony Bowden.
Would have been better if the Trumpistas were wearing Indian headdresses and war paint.
I would like to know why the doctors didn’t treat Bernie Sanders’ stroke.
Nothing to be done at this point.
Anticoagulants.
Which he also needs for his heart, so they are/did.
Re: The discussion of Georgism and land taxes. Something I don’t see entering that discussion, usually treated as a separate issue, is land use. I have had hell forever with poachers, trespassers, vandals and thieves. Most of the activity is motivated by envy. I could pay property tax for 100 years if I had a dollar for every time I have heard ‘You don’t deserve that land’, ‘You cant blame them, they don’t have a place of their own’, ‘Land aint just yers, you owe it to everybody’ and blah blah blah.
People think I should pay taxes because I ‘own’ land and at the same time they think they should have access and use of that land. They need firewood and a place to hunt too. Funny, on tax day when I am writing a check they never seem to be around.
They have a lot of problem with this in Europe and particularly in the UK. People think they should be able to gambol about freely on private property, make demands on how private land is used etc. Essentially the whole country is an HOA crossbred with a Historical Society, but by God. you better pay your damned property taxes.
Fuck Georgism, fuck property tax and fuck envious entitled thieves.
Want a single tax? Make it a consumption tax.
So your complaint with Gerogism is that others don’t have strong property rights (as in Europe) or others think that they are owed access to your land. But, none of that actually relates to anything that Henry George or his followers ever said.
No? Landholders pay property tax, yes? Isn’t that the basis for his scheme, that the govt is funded more or less entirely by property tax and all other forms of tax are inefficient or unfair? In return the govt defends my property rights?
Govt doesn’t defend property rights or any other rights. They defend votes. If the prevailing attitude is what I outlined above govt is going to cater to it. They are going to take my money and when I complain about arsonists, poachers and trespassers they are going to do jack fucking shit about it.
Examples: After calling the sheriff for the 100th time about stolen timber a deputy, refusing to look me in the eye, grumbled “Yew oughta just sell that land. It aint gonna be nuthin’ but trouble for you.”
Calling the sheriff another time: “I need to report an arson. I am standing here watching the arsonist set fire to International paper freshly planted timber as I speak.” I give the location and ask if they want a description of the guy, his car and license number. “Well Mr. Suthenboy, is he in LaSalle or Catahoula parish? Maybe you should call the other parish. You have a nice day now.”
Sitting in court to watch a criminal prosecution of an arsonist caught red-handed. After much milling around and whispered consultations the Bailiff announces the court is dismissed, there will be no prosecution. No explanation, not even a kindly ‘fuck. you’. Just ‘poof’ the whole thing disappears. I talk to the IP lawyer. He tells me that this is common, yet when IP gets sued the court goes after them with a vengeance.
That really sucks. You can’t squeeze blood out of a turnip, but maybe civil court is a remedy?
Guess who is going to be sitting on the jury.
So your criticism is that a tax on land (which already exists) will result in the status quo? That’s not as convincing of an argument as you might think, especially since I don’t see how not having a land tax would somehow change that status quo.
Not having a land tax means I wouldn’t be paying just to live in my house.
We already have a land tax, and it’s on the list of taxes I want abolished.
Just so I understand your point, a tax on land is a tax on your existence (not a tax on enforcing your ownership to that land), but a tax on your income or your contract with a seller or buyer (consumption tax) is somehow not a tax on your existence?
That seems backwards
I have never argued in favor of ANY of those taxes.
I have and still advocate use fees for services voluntarily consumed.
Anything else cannot be justified.
And If you bothered to read my previous remarks, you’d see that I already told you they were also unjustified taxes on existance.
With a land tax there is a specific basis and purpose behind the tax: to enforce property rights and the costs associated with enforcing and recognizing said property rights.
A tax on income and consumption lacks all basis for its existence. What is the purpose of a consumption tax? What exactly is the state doing to make your consumption possible? What is the purpose of an income tax? What exactly is the state doing to make your income possible?
I agree that a consumption tax is easier to avoid and therefore there is an argument in a consumption tax being the closest thing to a voluntary tax, but I don’t understand the basis for the state being allowed to levy such a tax.
“And If you bothered to read my previous remarks, you’d see that I already told you they were also unjustified taxes on existance.”
Georgists would argue that a land tax is a “user fee”. You are using the courts and the police to enforce your property rights.
Why do you keep talking about consumption taxes? When have I ever argued for them?
A use fee would be paid when you go to court, not on an ongoing constant basis for an uncontested claim.
When someone argues in favor of a “fair tax” for the income tax they don’t get nearly as much grief as a Georgist saying “we shouldn’t have any tax besides taxes on property in order to enforce property rights” and I just don’t get that.
Taxes are inevitable so I am not interested in arguing principle as much as practical outcome. Whenever a minority has something that the majority does not the majority will demand access. That completely undermines the principle behind property tax.
An end user consumption tax (btw limited by law) is at least partially voluntary and everyone pays it.
The one argument I see in favor of a land tax is that it would steer the leasing of land or uses by which the consumer/renter would end up paying the tax, presumably maximizing the use of land. What I don’t like about that is that the use of my property is again dictated to me and not my choice.
Now you’ve reminded me that my neghors feel entitled to use my trash can and filled it to overflowing with their garbage. Trash is even collected until monday, and there’s no way in hell I’m dragging their garbage into my house.
Are they still doing that? Jumpin’ Jiminy, there has to be a way to disincentivse their behavior.
There are only three reasons I care – 1: they always fill it to overflowing, so it’s obvious there’s stuff in the can. 2: it prevents me from disposing of my own garbage. 3: they seem to reserve the most rancid stuff for my can.
A concussion grenade rigged to pull the pin when the bin is opened might be a significant disincentive.
I don’t know if there’s a civilian version, but some guys in my Basic School company used CS (cesium) gas grenades to booby-trap the landnav boxes for the class two classes behind us, rightt before we graduated. That stuff disperse pretty quickly and man, it hurts. You’d know for a few hours who the guilty were by simply calling on your neighbors: they’d be all red-eyed and -nosed from the snot, crying, and coughing. That would also likely constitute sufficient disincentive for it to occur again.
Don’t be so stingy. They gave it to you, be generous and give it back to them. Go dump the can on their doorstep.
Problem – I don’t know which one does it.
Surveillance cameras are cheap and easy to use these days.
See, that’s another upside of my plan, it will serve as an alarm and if you aren’t there you just look for the neighbor with the Looney Toons scorched face.
A trip wire whistle flare would let you know who it is…….unfortunately I’m sure the AFT has made those impossible to find/buy
Get off my lawn!
You’re the one in our park.
*moves boulders to exclude campsites from park*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=132&v=gSMxBLlA8qY
Richard Jewell movie trailer
Obligatory: The corporate press is the enemy of the people
There’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time. A long time.
That could be good.