I’m back, you cucks! Bigger, louder, and saltier than ever! That could just be the cognac talking.
Here’s something from earlier this week.
It’s hard to believe that barely three weeks have passed since Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, issued a mysterious subpoena to the acting director of national intelligence, demanding that he produce a whistleblower complaint filed by someone in the intelligence community.
Since that subpoena was issued, the impeachment of Donald Trump has gone from implausibility to near certainty; I at least find it hard to see how the House can fail to impeach given what we already know about Trump’s actions. Conviction in the Senate remains a long shot, but not as long as it once seemed.
And the whole tenor of our national conversation has changed. It looks to me as if we’re witnessing the rapid collapse of a powerful faction in U.S. public life, one whose refusal to accept facts at odds with its prejudices has long been a major source of political dysfunction.
Wait? Did somebody finally administer you a red pill suppository? Did Krugnuts get whacked and his severed head mounted to one of those Boston Dynamic robots to be reanimated as a spokesman by our new AI overlords while we toil under their desks forever?
But I’m not talking about the right-wing extremists who dominate the Republican Party. Sorry, but they’re not going anywhere. Most of Trump’s base is sticking with him, while the list of prominent Republican politicians willing to call out Trump’s malfeasance in clear language consists so far of Mitt Romney and, well, Mitt Romney.
No, I’m talking about fanatical centrists, who aren’t a large slice of the electorate, but have played an outsize role in elite opinion and media coverage. These are people who may have been willing to concede that Trump was a bad guy, but otherwise maintained, in the teeth of the evidence, that our two major parties were basically equivalent: Each party had its extremists, but each also had its moderates, and everything would be fine if these moderates could work together.
Wait, what? Eat shit. That’s damn near everybody on a comment thread in any vaguely right-wing website. Let me spell it out for you, they hate Team Cuck every bit as they hate Team Cunt. You might know that if you ever got out of your furry pink panties, put in a decent pair on man pants and left Princeton, NJ…ever.
Who am I talking about? Well, among other people, Joe Biden, who has repeatedly insisted that Trump is an aberration, not representative of the Republican Party as a whole. (Biden’s refusal to admit what he was facing may be one reason his response to the Ukraine smear has seemed so wobbly.)
Some of us have been pushing back against that worldview for many years, arguing that today’s Republican Party is a radical force increasingly opposed to democracy. Way back in 2003 I wrote that modern conservatism is “a movement whose leaders do not accept the legitimacy of our current political system.” In 2012, Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein declared that the central problem of U.S. politics was a GOP that was not just extreme but “dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.”
They are opposed to democracy, as implied in the fucking name…Republican and the fact they are relevant at all in todays politics is a result of the fact we live in a republic. But I will pretend you know that and are playing to the retards that feel smart reading your column.
For those retards let me spell out why democracy isn’t a good thing: the best example of democracy in action is gang-rape.
For a long time, however, making that case — pointing out that Republicans were sounding ever more authoritarian and violating more and more democratic norms — got you dismissed as shrill if not deranged. Even Trump’s rise, and the obvious parallels between Trumpism and the authoritarian movements that have gutted democracy in places like Hungary and Poland, barely dented centrist complacency. Remember, just a few months ago most of the news media treated Attorney General William Barr’s highly misleading summary of the Mueller report as credible.
Hey dumbass. Poland is a parliamentary republic, as is Hungary
Plus nothing was misleading about the summary, as it is a well-known fact, there was nothing misleading about the summary.
The Department says that Mueller emphasized that nothing in Barr’s summary was inaccurate or misleading, but that Mueller was frustrated about the lack of context and that the media’s coverage related to the analysis of obstruction of justice was a bit confusing.
That is per those radical right-wing nut jobs at NPR—Barr didn’t correctly capture Muller’s fragile ego written in glittery lip gloss.
But my sense, although it’s impossible to quantify, is that the events of the past several weeks have finally broken through the wall of centrist denial.
At this point, things that previously were merely obvious have become undeniable. Yes, Trump has invited foreign powers to intervene in U.S. politics on his behalf; he’s even done it on camera. Yes, he has claimed that his domestic political opponents are committing treason by exercising their constitutional rights of oversight, and he is clearly itching to use the justice system to criminalize criticism.
Politicians who believed in American values would denounce this behavior, even if it came from their own leader. Republicans have been silent at best, and many are expressing approval. So it’s now crystal clear that the GOP is not a normal political party; it is an American equivalent of Hungary’s Fidesz or Poland’s Law and Justice, an authoritarian regime in waiting.
Yes. Reckless authoritarians that are actively campaigning on nationalizing 1/6 of the economy in the form of Medicare for all, seizing personal wealth from billionaires (wealth is not income), and my personal favorite—sending pigs door to door to seize gunz from people that own gunz from people that own gunz. Which is retarded given YOU KNOW THEY OWN GUNZ!
Right, its Team Cuck that is saying that….
And I think — I hope — that those who have spent years denying this reality are finally coming around.
It’s important to understand that the GOP hasn’t suddenly changed, that Trump hasn’t somehow managed to corrupt a party that was basically OK until he came along. Anyone startled by Republican embrace of wild conspiracy theories about the deep state must have slept through the Clinton years, and wasn’t paying attention when most of the GOP decided that climate change was a hoax perpetrated by a vast global scientific cabal.
Either thst or they are waiting fir jackoffs like you start acting like this is a fucking crisis. You know, like moving inland with the ingrates that will instantly recognize you and use your soft, pink carcass as carbon-neutral fuel.
And anyone shocked by Republican acceptance of the idea that it’s fine to seek domestic political aid from foreign regimes has forgotten (like all too many people) that the Bush administration took us to war on false pretenses — not the same sin, but an equally serious betrayal of American political norms.
No, Trump isn’t an aberration. He’s unusually blatant and gaudily corrupt, but at a basic level he’s the culmination of where his party has been going for decades. And U.S. political life won’t begin to recover until centrists face up to that uncomfortable reality.
Wait? Are you supposed to be a goddamn economist? NOTHING WRITTEN HERE IS ABOUT THE ECONOMY. Fuck this guy.
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442 responses to “Economics Corner with Paul Krugman and Winston’s Mom”
Spud nails Winston’s mom, and a Friday night first.
It’s late for you to be her first for today.
Fair point.
If by nailed you mean took a strap-on like a champ….yeah a Friday night first!
the best example of democracy in action is gang-rape.
I saw that come up on a bit of written diarrhea passing as a “facebook discussion”. The response in that stream of diarrhea to the claim that “gang rape is an example of democracy in action” was something to the effect of, “I think there are bigger organizations which consider rape a crime.” I assume the person making that response was, given the context, referring to the police in the United States and probably would have called the United States a “democracy”. A nice way to make an own goal: if majority rules, and the majority thinks gang rape is wrong, what happens if the majority changes its mind?
A net increase in well-being? /utilitarian
Then I guess rape would just be a name for things we do together.
“the Bush administration took us to war on false pretenses — not the same sin, but an equally serious betrayal of American political norms.”
Hey Paui: The USS Maine and the Gulf of Tonkin would like a word with you.
and
+1 The War to End All Wars.
http://peacehistory-usfp.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/8_Wilson-campaign-button-2.jpg
Ugh…I have to go to NJ for a wedding tomorrow.
Also, fuck Krugman.
Sorry. Remember, the old New Hope-Lambertville Bridge is toll-free for getting out of Jersey.
That’s out of the way for us.
Though I’ve been over that bridge a bunch in my life.
Worse yet, the wedding is in the evening and we are staying over night.
My family used it a bunch of times.
Well… good luck.
Easton also has a “free bridge”.
Really? I didn’t know that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northampton_Street_Bridge
Huh. I feel like I should have known about that bridge.
Sorry to hear.
Whatever you do don’t bring any firearms.
*sigh* I know…
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At least it has an open bar. Wait, I’m from an Irish family so that is a prerequisite. But I have heard of strange customs that don’t have this requirement. I hope you aren’t going to one of those type things.
I’m pretty sure it’s an open bar. Which is not a big deal. Keto means I get drunk pretty easily.
I had some acquaintances who did one worse then a cash bar. They had a dry reception.
It emptied out pretty quickly.
*hides*
Meh, I was an older bride. I just wanted to let people know there was somebody in the world who could put up with me. Then we left and went back to bed.
Women have a party to show off the fact that they found someone. Men go to parties only to find someone. It is a miracle our species has made it this far.
Objectively speaking, sex is gross. Yet we still manage to do it.
Wait–so when you spend all that time thinking about it, you’re just forming plans for a clean-up?
Religious reasons are one thing, this was a cost saving thing, and neither of them were big drinkers.
Our previous neighbors were Mormon. There are no fences between us, so they came over to tell us that they had a wedding and reception for their daughter planned. We had some friends in from out of town, so we were set up on the patio, with drinks in hand, waiting for the festivities to start. At 9pm, all the lights went out, and everybody went home. We just looked at each other, wondering what the hell had just happened.
LOL
I have been to only 2 weddings/receptions where there was alcohol. Most of the ones I’ve been to are bone dry.
Wow, I am trying to make sense of that. My second to youngest brother got married last month and I can only imagine what the bar tab was. I was impressed that the bride’s Mexican family actually managed to booze it up more than our side. There were buses to bring back everyone because they knew the drinking would be off the charts. I led a rousing, multi verse version of “The Wild Rover” on the bus ride back.
The marriage to the current wife was a party where a wedding broke out. It was an awesome evening.
I don’t remember much of it except wearing a tuxedo and scoring out in the parking lot.
A dry wedding reception? I… I…. can’t even.
Somehow, I get through life without alcohol. Spud asked me how. Right now, I do not know.
What I DO know is that it all smells gross to me, so I wouldn’t anyway. Please pass the Valium.
I’ve done dry weddings, I’ve done open bar weddings, I’ve done everything in between. I’m ready to leave after an hour, no matter the drink situation.
Our wedding was half tea totallers, so we went to Costco and got a bunch of beer and wine. We had enough left over to last us 6 months.
There was a period in my life when I did not drink.
I needed to get my life under control. Drinking and drugs wouldn’t have helped with that. So I cut them out. No problems.
Now, despite what some people think, I indulge in moderation.
so we went to Costco and got a bunch of beer and wine. We had enough left over to last us 6 months.
I went to the wedding for two friends of mine. The parents of the bride bought the booze for the reception.
They bought a lot.
They bought so much, that near the end of the reception, the best man made an announcement. “The parents of the bride bought the booze that you’re enjoying right now. They bought a lot. Feel free to take some home with you so they don’t have to.”
I took home two bottles of wine and a six pack of beer. I heard from my friends that her parents still took home booze despite the guests leaving with booze.
“I’m ready to leave after an hour, no matter the drink situation.“
This is me and, Allah be praised, Mrs. Dean.
On the travel bit, I’m catching up on old threads. I saw your vacation pictures. Very nice!
Thanks! It was a nice getaway.
I have to go to NJ for a wedding tomorrow.
Gimmie a call. I’ve crashed all sorts of family gatherings.
I’ll say this again. 20 year old drunk me would have taken winston’s mom home and shown her a good time.
So would 30 year old (and up) me.
Are either of you claiming responsibility for Winston? Pater Familias?
*lights cigarette*
Right.
I was at one of the local brewpubs earlier tonight for dinner. Burger, beer, good. I didn’t stick around for their club night. It’s not my scene and with my back I probably shouldn’t be doing that. Now I’m at home procrastinating on what I need to do and enjoying another beer.
I’ve never had the opportunity to try any Dogfish Head. I’d like to sometime.
After spending most of the day doing yard work on likely one of the last nice days of the year, I’m having a couple of these and sipping on some rye.
Start here https://www.dogfish.com/brewery/beer/indian-brown-ale
When I drank beer, this one was a favorite.
Dogfish Head makes some good beer. They also have a distillery.
I toured the brewery for the first time last June. Despite heading down to Philly many times since I moved to New England and going through Delaware every time I go to the Outer Banks, this is the first time I toured the brewery. I didn’t ask if the acquisition would change anything. Anyways, I recommend touring the brewery if you are in the area.
I like Oktoberfestbier. I had one with dinner tonight. I think I can get New Glarus here but I don’t think I’ve had their Oktoberfest.
I’m not sure if I will continue drinking tonight. I have a bunch of yard work to do tomorrow and a friend is coming by for lunch tomorrow.
No, you can’t. They don’t distribute out of Wisconsin.
Shit. I must have been thinking of another beer. It wouldn’t be the first time I did something like that.
#metoo
Yeah there was a St. Paul bar that got in trouble for having New Glarus on tap.
A tragedy. NG is excellent. I featured their Kroeber cherry beer at my wedding reception. It is one of my all time faves.
Agreed. I’ve had somewhere around 8-10 of their beers and the worst one was above average. Their Wisconsin Belgian Red is amaze-balls.
I have a sad that contrakrugman is only coming on to once a week now. I fear that show is going the way of the DoDo.
Once every two weeks that is.
Um which Winston’s mom? The one from the homepage, the top of this page or the avatar pic? Two out of three are a resounding, “hell fucking yes” and one is a “you were either a very horny or very drunk 20 year old once upon a time.
Uhh, that was supposed to be a response to your previous comment.
All 3 K, all 3.
“you were either a very horny or very drunk 20 year old once upon a time. ”
Still applies here, even into the 40s.
Heh, heh.
Yep.
I’ll assume you don’t know the source of that one and give you a pass, this time.
What is the source of blond crying Mama Winston?
She’s not crying – it’s a mugshot of Patsy Stone taken after a hard night of drink and coke.
Oh, that show. Yeah I tried to watch an episode and could not get the appeal. I’m probably too square.
I can’t even.
It’s unpleasant drama queens being unpleasant and dramatic.
I’ve seen the show years ago but didn’t remember it enough to connect it to the pic.
I recognized it immediately. Yes, I have the box set.
Not much of a show when all Krugnuts puts out is boilerplate TDS talking points, there are any number of libertarian podcasts that address that drivel daily. The appeal of KontraKrugman was taking on Keynesian arguments. He doesn’t even pretend to look at things through the lens of economics.
I agree. The content of the show has been pretty lacking lately. Really through no fault of Bob and Tom. Krugman has not written anything but democratic party propaganda for them to pick apart since trump happened.
I dont blame them for cutting back. The show was better when Bob was picking apart a Keynesian instead of a dem propagandist.
You are correct.
I really should listen to Bob Murphy’s show more. He’s brilliant and I hope he succeeds at it.
I haven’t caught them all, but I have listened to most. Bob is great. His shows can be a bit technical and tend to make you use your noodle, but that ain’t a bad thing.
It seems like “Economist” is an honorary title, like Kentucky Colonel or Dr for a PhD or a ‘Consensus of Scientists’. Not sure but guessing that Bullshit Artist in Wiki says ‘see Krugman’
Navarro is cut from the same intellectual bolt of cloth
Baby and me https://imgur.com/gallery/oJfeWQm
Went to fill the deer feeder about an hour ago. Girl and I spotted 7 deer on the way. The season is a coming and boy is excited.
Excellent.
We have deer in our yard, which is cool, but today I saw a Peregrine which takes cool to a whole new level.
That is an extra bit of cool. I’m jealous.
This spring I had two hawks nesting in the tree outside my patio.
We’re lucky to have a number of different raptors here. Especially red tailed hawks.
It amazes me how raptors have come back since I was a kid. Back then, it was rare to see any hawks, falcons, or God-forbid an actual eagle. Now, they’re everywhere.
Yep. One of the things they’ve done here is put osprey nests on top of a few power poles. They came back in no time. I gauge the arrival of spring and fall on whether or not the ospreys are here.
What would Mike Lee think if I took up falconry to take down pesky drones?
Awesome. Deer season here is October. I avoid the woods in October.
The dog and I encountered a deer in the back corner of our apartment complex during our morning walk Thursday. They’re very common in town here.
OMWC has updated his van to appeal to today’s younger kids:
https://www.reddit.com/r/redneckengineering/comments/djqbty/modernized_pervert_van/
For free WiFi and free tacos I’m game.
Me too. Wait, beef or chicken tacos?
Free wifi. It’s 2019 people; you really should have unlimited data on your phone.
I do but T-Mobile’s coverage sucks.
Can confirm.
My mom lives out in the boonies with two of her sisters. Their phones have unlimited data and they just turn on their hotspots when they need to.
We used to do this until I had a complete loss of my faculties and switched us to HughesNet. Terrible decision. Tell those girls to never believe the bullshit that satellite internet providers feed you.
AT&T.
Mom & Co. are all on our plan (7 phones total, unlimited data, all hotspots). My husband, who can wring a deal out of any company, takes care of all of it.
I just cut off DISH internet, switch to Verizon tethering. Cheaper and more high speed time.
Yep. Satellite internet is gawd-awful.
MikeS: Can confirm. I had to support close to 1,000 remote locations at my previous job. They all needed to sync truck computers through a wireless access point in the “office” at the end of their shifts. The Hughes.Net ones were always the biggest headaches to get back up and working, and went down on a regular basis. Especially in snowy weather, the trucks had to run more when it was cold on top of it.
Not when I can cut the data portion of my bill down to $3 a month.
/best decision I ever made
What, you mean like they call the lawfully elected president illegitimate and tell the world that he only won because he cheated? Why the hell does anyone still publish this asshat?
Oh, and I forgot: is they also talking about how the Electoral College should be destroyed and the Supreme Court packed?
I was thinking along the same lines through that part. “He’s not my president” is totes accepting the election outcome.
Hmm, income tax, direct election of senators, entire rooms full of ‘regulations’ created by appointed bureaucrats, an entirely partisan and dishonest press, routine violations by the government of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th amendments, compete irrelevancy of the 9th and 10th and expansion of the commerce clause to swallow all limits on federal power. If you do accept the legitimacy of our current political system you are a fucking traitor.
Innocent until accused by a political hack, attempts to smear the president by secret impeachment “investigations” in clear violation of three house votes, declaring legal actions by the POTUS to be illegal, using the DNC to throw the 2016 nomination to HRC, etc.
But yours are better.
^^^^
My nonacceptance of the current system came in hand with my leaving the GOP.
No, Krugman isn’t an aberration. He’s unusually blatant and gaudily hackish, but at a basic level he’s the culmination of where his writings has been going for decades.
I read that as Krugman isn’t an abortion.
Unfortunate
Damnit, the eggheads are going to take all the fun out of having truly fuckable sexbots aren’t they?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/335986790_Designing_Virtuous_Sex_Robots
I don’t want to learn an ethical lesson from the damn things, I just wanna bang ‘em.
Yeah, that is what they are against. No pleasure allowed.
You just know it’s leading to rape charges when somebody forces their sexbot to have sex when it doesn’t want to.
Quick, nobody tell Krugs that Orange was a Democrat for the majority of his political life – and hasn’t changed at all.
That was before the parties switched you Nazi!
then Hes a Classical Liberal, and that’s not too bad nowadays….
In absolute terms Trump is horrible. In relative terms he is decent. What that means is SF level horror.
None of those lefty fucks give a flea’s fart about ideology or principle. Power. That is all they care about. Power. There is nothing they wouldn’t do and nothing that wont come out of their mouth if it serves that end. They tell blatant lies right to our faces. They say the most bizarre lunacy. They promise things they have no intention of delivering, things that are absurdly impossible on it’s face, etc. All in the name of power. Krugman is the personification of the useful idiot who thinks he will be given power after the glorious utopia is ushered in but instead of a dacha he will get a pockmarked wall to stand in front of.
I honestly cant understand why he is given a forum or believe that anyone actually reads him.
I actually have more “respect” (of sorts) for someone who changes his political party in response to shifting winds. The notion that fossils like Pelosi or Clinton actually go along with the Democrats’ current obsession with identity politics, to take one example, is laughable on its face. Hillary doesn’t give a shit about transgender bathrooms, and Obama never reached “enlightenment” on gay marriage. No, all of them are team players through and through.
Bloomberg, as awful as he is, rode this tactic to city hall for three terms by calling himself a “Republican” to set himself apart from the craziness that the Democrats had become.
Anyone like Kites? I’m starting an article, but wondering if there is an interest, 21st Century kites are pretty badass,
Yeah that’d be interesting
I don’t…yet. Maybe you can talk me into it.
Bring it.
I shall, thanks guys!
Do it! We used to watch those guys at the beach and it looked like a lot fun.
We got a double string one for the kids that I have enjoyed more than they have. Those are super fun, cause you can really make them do tricks.
Yes please. I have found memories of flying kites when a kid.
I think New England is not conducive to flying kites.
If anyone out there finds themselves in Sydney, Australia as the weather warms up, I recommend the Festival of the Winds at Bondi Beach. Just be prepared for really shitty traffic.
The Kruginator is such a ridiculous hack I almost feel sorry for him.
For those of you who are aware of the Mojeaux Family Travails, we have raccoons in our attic. Not squirrels. Raccoons. Yes. Yes, we do.
If my brother hadn’t nudged me into bailing, the fact that we need a new roof would have forced our hand.
Man, I can’t wait to be out of this piece of shit.
Any luck yet with the alternate housing hunt, iffen ya don’t mind my asking?
Not really looking at the moment. We have a bunch of paperwork to get through and court, suchlike. We’ll stay here as long as we possibly can. We’re in a bit of a catch-22 situation at the moment, which is between getting the process started and getting all the way through it.
I deal, at least peripherally, with real estate situations like yours in my practice. I can’t personally do anything for you in MO., but if you have questions, want to spitball about options and what will/may/could happen, please feel free to contact me.
Thanks. I really appreciate that.
Coons in the attic? How’d the cute little vermin get up there?
They get everywhere. Climbing fools.
Our house backs up onto a woods. We’ve got all kinds of critters back there and it is a very short meander from the woods to my back porch. They chewed a hole in the roof, which we did not know until about a month ago when I started hearing them.
Uffda. I’m so happy you have an exit strategy.
Thanks. Me too. I would probably be in the hospital right now were it not for my brother.
Mojeaux,
Keep in mind that all mammals are effected by capsaicin, and it’s oil soluble. Dried ghost chilies are relatively cheap, and can be soaked in a spray bottle of oil for several days. You can then spray that oil on anything you want to keep critters away from (or drive them away from). I used that trick to drive away a bunch of chipmunks.
“You can then spray that oil on anything you want to keep critters away from (or drive them away from).”
And if you have really stubborn kitties.
Or toddlers.
“It gets out stubborn toddlers with ease!”
I find that shot solves most any wildlife problems.
I think I missed something. Best wishes to you.
Short version here.
Six figures into the house infrastructure? Shit. I would have given up long before that.
I’m on my first house. I’ve put a good bit of money into it, but not for infrastructure stuff.
Wow.
I think it is a good thing you are getting out.
My best wishes to you.
Plumbing and foundation, mostly.
Eesh. Good luck, Mo.
Mothballs. They work against most critters.
We had a pet racoon growing up. The family dog killed the mother so we raised one of the children. Wicked smaht, those raccons.
https://tinyurl.com/yy3sljr2
NSFW.
https://tinyurl.com/y5xfw449
NSFW.
https://tinyurl.com/y6gn7e4v
NSFW.
Leanna Decker is on my enormous future-ex-girlfriends list.
I read that as Lena Dunham.
How’s that, Chafed?
I find it rather prescient, tbh.
Q’s titty pics are blocked where I am. Has a ?
Since I had a Dogfish Head beer earlier, I decided to continue and finish drinking with a shot of Barrel Honey Rum. It’s good.
Has anyone talked about Zuckerberg’s recent speech at Georgetown? There’s some self-struggle-session wishy-washy garbage in there, but he said some things that got my attention…in a good way:
Damn. That’s pretty good.
Well, other than that collectivist society crap and progress nonsense.
Yeah, it’s no Libertarian Moment™, but at least he’s pushing back at the censorship crowd.
And you gotta respect his stance on China. He walked away from some huge money there, I assume.
I think we are all afraid to comment because it challenges our narrative :). It is like Adam Silver’s belated expression of support for free expression that got linked with hostility this morning. We do better when people do things that are horrible, then we can be virtuous while snarking, people we dislike saying things that are good? Scary.
Yeah, I was a bit confused by the snark accompanying the Silver link. I kept reading waiting for the “gotcha!” and it never came.
I’ll be honest. I’ve made a couple of snarky comments about that and left it at that, but that really bugged me a lot. There is a tendency toward a kind of hipster attitude of “if the normies say something we must mock it” because we are so used to the mainstream world disagreeing with us on every thing. But if we do that when someone we dislike says something we should largely agree with, aren’t we just playing the same team game the normies are? And playing it badly since our team has no winners.
His first hot-take on the day of, was derptastic and totally deserving of scorn. The next day he gave a pretty good rebuttal. So it depends on which response we’re snarking at.
We (I believe both of us) are referring to Sloppy’s description of Silver’s most recent comments. Yes, the first day was moronic and deserving of every bit of scorn it got, and then some.
Yep. From the morning links:
Uh, no. you’re dealing with he consequences of the unreasonable reaction of an autocratic regime that won’t tolerate any form of dissent or expansion of liberty. Not from a tweet. But keep polishing that Chinese knob. Maybe you’ll get lucky and they’ll forgive a guy for a tweet that offended them. And then maybe they’ll put your games back on the air. You know, because that’s how a reasonable government would react. (Insert eye-roll emoji here)
Which would have been entirely justified the first day, but not really by the linked article.
Yeah, just read that linked article. Silver actually got it fairly right there. Yeah, i would like him to rip the shit out of the Chinese autocracy, but that was not “polishing their knob” by any means.
Have some derp that hasn’t been walked back, by the Taiwanese owner of the Brooklyn Nets, no less:
They “stand united”. OK, then.
He’s Taiwanese and said that? Christ, what an asshole.
What’s Chinese for Judas?
The Password is “Cunte”
That’s pretty solid for a guy who regularly throttles speech on his platform.
Although relatively speaking…
But that’s, like, really harmful speech.
It’s disheartening that China-style repression seems to be growing around the world.
/muh nineties
Queues up some Jesus Jones…
Words. Show me actions.
If only his company actually lived up to that thought.
I just browsed RIA’s October on-line auction list. This entry made me say, “WTF?”.
The rear sight is the wrong rear sight for a M39. It looks like a M91 rear sight. I don’t know of any Finn Mosin-Nagants chambered in 9mm Nagant. The barrel length is the correct length for a M91. I wonder if RIA screwed up and this is really a M91?
Watching Tulsi’s interview on Tucker Carleson It strikes me as a really bad strategic move by HRC and NYT to be hitting out against Tulsi. Her Campaign was pretty much over. This has a good chance of breathing new life into her campaign. Of course it could go the opposite direction depending on how in lockstep they Leftist news media is.
I explained to my wife that a lot of Dems will claim that she is liked too much by Republicans to be palatable for a nominee, and she laughed and said: “Isn’t that a good thing?”
I couldn’t vote for her, but she’s hot, and Hillary deserves a few nut punches. Excuse me, cloaca punches.
If she was still running in the primaries i’d register as a Dem to vote for her, but i wouldn’t vote for her in the general.
As I mentioned in a previous thread, I will most likely vote for her in the Iowa caucuses.
That’s not a bad idea.
Might as well. My votes meaningless anyways.
You in Iowa?
I would go to the Republican caucus if Rand Paul was running (like i did in 2016), but as it is, I will have nothing better to do. Although listening to everyone supporting the other candidates will make me want to retch.
I registered as a republican in 2016 to only vote against Jeb. Later found out the fuckers had house parties or whatever to vote in the primary. I didn’t care that much to put that much effort into it.
I would never vote for her, but it makes me happy to see all the Tulsi yard-signs in Ames.
Yes, I’ve seen them here, too. Also a Pete sign and I believe a Klobuchar sign (it said Amy for America, but I couldn’t see any last name)
Oregon, which has been monekying with the primary dates to be “relevant”.
Heh, we’re number 1!
Anyone’s vote for Pres is the most meaningless vote they make. But yeah, vote for her for the primary. She sucks the least of the Donkeys by far. I’ll cast my meaningless vote in the general for either Trump or McAfee (if he is running).
“I explained to my wife that a lot of Dems will claim that she is liked too much by Republicans to be palatable for a nominee, and she laughed and said: “Isn’t that a good thing?””
I see you haven’t learned the wifey unit yet.
I’ve been educating her. But seriously, wouldn’t democrats want someone who meets all their domestic boxes, and is widely popular with a portion of the right?
Democrat voters? Maybe. The machine? hell no.
Exactly
I think a lot of Dem voters are so driven by a desire to punish their enemies that outside appeal is very much an ineradicable taint.
Story of my life…. Huh?
Because the party has now gone so far left that Bernie’s rants are mainstream for them.
And so quickly. That’s the scary part.
Within 20-ish years we went from “Communism is the enemy” and any and every Dem forcefully denying they were a Socialist when accused of it, to many proudly calling themselves Socialists and actively attempting to enact policies that are wet-dream material for old school Commies in Russia.
I just perused the weeks content and comments. DO YOU PEOPLE WORK? Tonios Glibbening is at 11? We have crosswords? To keep up with this place is like another job if you have a real job. Not to mention Winstons mom stole my wallet. Totally worth it.
DO YOU PEOPLE WORK?
Yes.
Not to mention Winstons mom stole my wallet.
Don’t take your wallet when you go to a brothel. Just take the cash you need.
Commute commenting is where I’m at. And breaktime.
I just sat down and see 171 comments.
So I have to ask…..
DO ANY OF YOU WORK?!
DO YOU PEOPLE WORK?
Grab a spoon and eat my ass, with that attitude.
Appropriate
This nonsense needs to end
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/10/immigrant-rights-groups-will-ask-for-new-rule-banning-ice-arrests-in-oregon-courthouses.html
I’m not sure why my wife and I had to go through all that stuff for her to become a citizen, I guess we’re dummies, since laws are for dummies.
Apparently. All she needed to do was go to the local ICE office with a big sign saying she’s illegal, doesn’t give two fucks about the laws of this country, and she’d be fast tracked for citizenship.
The wife and I got a gruff, drill sergeant type guy for her interview. The last thing he said to us was , “don’t go on welfare, dammit.” which I found hilarious. I didn’t laugh about it till we got out of the office though.
For those who are interested, I’m going to be in Philadelphia the first weekend of December for PAX Unplugged (a board game convention). We’ll be getting in Thursday, and heading out Monday (at the present). I’m definitely planning on hitting up Monk’s at least one night, right now it’s looking like Saturday may be out, as there’s a Diplomacy tournament that day I’m thinking about signing up for.
Very little of that translates into Robo-ese.
If my back is healed up, I’ll head on down.
Tres is a good looking guy, and very cool, glad to be his Friend…… and all you Fuckers too,
Love ya!
That isn’t a pic of Tres, it’s Krugman’s Mom, or something.
The Bee hits another home run.
Of course that one was served up like batting practice by Hillary.
The pic is awesome.
WTF does “asset” mean BTW?
An asset is a person who has been recruited by an intelligence operative who performs services or provides information.
I get that. They must be using “asset” in a much looser way. It’s truly scuzzy.
No, I think Hilldog really thinks Russian spies have recruited these folks. No other explanation for opposing the war makes sense.
She’s cunning enough to know that can’t be true. Cutthroat, immoral? Yes. Stupid? I don’t think so. Paranoid? Likely. So who knows?
She probably wants you to think “bought and paid for” but in reality probably just means someone who happens to do things the Russians prefer.
“WTF does “asset” mean BTW?”
It means you support having our troops leave Syria cuz Russia will swoop in and take it and no one would support having our troops leave unless they support Russia swooping in and no one would support that unless they are taking Putinbucks.
Needs moar “bots”. Other than that sounds legit. Alex jones was ruined for spewing less crazy shit than Hillary these days. Next from Hillary: “RUSSIA MADE THE FROGS GAY”
Oh, man. That would be a great meme. Straff?
OK. I enacted my own labor.
Yew can dew it. There ya go.
SUPERB!!!!!!111!!!
Can I throw your work onto twitter? That is excellent.
You didn’t reply quick enough to say no so it is there.
Please do
I mean, HELL NO!
https://twitter.com/westernsloper/status/1185402499794194432
Haha. ????
Does this mean I am officially a soldier in The Great Meme War?
Ya, me, you and my 37 followers are going to wage some bad ass war on the establishment. but all the followers are people here so ya…….I think that one might have legs though. Hillary is nuts now,
Very nice. Get that out there in a few places and we are likely to see it on Tucker.
I was half kidding but now that I think about it westernsloper’s pointing out the Jones very solid comparison is probably going to come up on someones show and the photo is a perfect companion.
I agree. It should have legs. And ‘sloper gets the credit; it was a great observation.
The subject was addressed on tonight’s show but sadly not the awesome meme.
I was thinking a sound bite side by side but I am not that talented. Bring it on Glibertariat!
Hillary and Costco but no mention of her pathetic book signing?
Can anyone explain to me why, in current year, there are -at least- four commonly accepted types of connections for “shop air”?
LOut with old friends for my buddy’s fortieth birthday, and I’m surrounded by union members and government employees who have drunkenly begun talking politics. A few of them are real hippies, not my particular brand, and one thing lead to another and I just took Molly for the first time in six or so years in order not to kill the lot.
Pray for me, this could get weird.
Godspeed, TH. And I truly mean that.
Waka Waka Waka!!!
Now that I don’t envy.
I hope not this Molly.
You’re an evil fuck…ha!
Sorry bro.
Good luck.
Mdma is the shiznit. That stuff will make your frown turn upside down quick as could be. Government workers or not.
Good luck, stay hydrated.
Incoming Union member orgy. “I’m sorry ma’am, under the current CBA I am not permitted to provide oral sex. That is the job of the Split Licker Local 469. I only provide missionary, except during 3 peak shifts a year I am permitted to engage in reverse cowgirl.”
Old lady sitting next to the hot young lady sitting across from me is scowling at me for staring at the hot young lady who is staring at her phone.
Look straight into old lady’s eyes, wink and lasciviously lick your lips.
Deeeeeew it!
*After I typed that I heard it in Schwarzenegger’s voice*
Then get to the choppa!
A comment from Tokyo with a Godzilla avatar destroying Tokyo as I’m watching Godzilla destroy it on tv.
#insert Bill & Ted gif here
Newest one?
No, it’s kaiju month on TCM for Halloween. Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster from 1964.
My mistake. It’s Destroy All Monsters from 1968.
I loved that movie when I was a kid.
Sounds good. *Puts on helmet ⛑
I found your hat for next time
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B07SQ7JPXZ/
And to hell with all you shitlords who aren’t here on a Friday night because you have lives. Arrogant pricks.
Hey, there was a grade school gymnastics tournament near OMWC’s house! You can’t expect the man to stay home from that!
I got drunker than normal earlier than normal. I will not apologize.
Almost there. ‘Tis the weekend and there will be no hammers, nail guns, or compressors tomorrow morning.
Wait. It’s Friday right now, isn’t it? I was thinking it was Saturday and I thought you were referring to a small turnout last night.
It’s Sunday, how much did you drink?
Hitler?
#metoo
I had a “life” a few times. I find that what I had to be overrated at this point in life.
Yup. I find mundane to be just fine at this point in life.
Seconded.
Wut are you geezers talking about?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-Z1YwaOiw
I want to throat punch you right now.
Now that wouldn’t be mundane, would it?
You got me there, you rascal.
That’s me.
https://i.imgflip.com/3ckich.jpg
Some of us are left coasters and are only getting started! Just got to the concert venue, legal CA “medicine” all set, and a hellofa booze buzz going on. Whoo hoo!
Bongo Fury!
I’m primary on call until Thursday, so my ability to have a life this weekend is near dead. I managed to get out and pick up supplies to brew this weekend (hopefully tomorrow). Need to get the beers ready for Thanksgiving.
So what’s (being brewed in order to be put) on tap?
This year I’m doing up a porter and a cream ale. Both tested recipes, and provides both options for the guests (dark or light) and both will pair with Thanksgiving dinner (porter roast notes to go with roasted food, cream ale to cut through heavier flavors and the like). One of my favorites to pair with meals is saison, but my sister isn’t a fan of the style, so in deference to her, I’m not going that route.
If I ever find myself in Cleveland, you are going to find yourself encumbered with a very thirsty visitor.
Not a problem at all, at some point I need to work through some of the items in my cellar as well. I’ll avoid relisting the whisk(e)ys I’ve got on the shelves as well.
Ahem….
What? You’re here.
Am I not supposed to be? It’s you lot that give up around midnight that rankle….
I know, I know–something’s better than nothing. And, it’s the thought that counts…
I’m here zapped on God knows what commenting by phone from a hospital bed.
The fuck you do now?I mean, my goodness! Are you OK?
That’s the spirit! Good to know you’re functioning.
You getting better/feeling better? Hope so. Take it easy, Festus.
See below.
I hope you get better soon.
So many Glibs with ailments….do we have dirt on Hillary or something?
When you go messing with the Elder Gods…
Nyarlathotep’s chaos affects us all.
All of these are just so you can do number 10 incessantly.
https://www.benjerry.co.uk/whats-new/2019/09/live-more-environmentally
What would B&J (uhh, huh-huh) be without virtual signalling?
Get thee to a creamery.
Good thing ice cream is a necessity when the food runs out.
Remember that you said this when tomorrow night rolls around….
Yeah, heh –
#11 Eliminate fripperies like ice cream
I may have to link this again tomorrow, but in the beer news realm: Best. Possible. Timeline.. There are so many joke possibilities here…
I bet he was Russian
Getting to work, so one last thing. The Ballad of Lefty Brown was pretty good. It’s has the benefit of seeing Fonda take a headshot right out of the gate. No spoilers, but an interesting way to handle eminent domain.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sv2khM97ylU
That does look good.
Sorry to sound like a broken record but apparently had pretty close brush with death on Wednesday and now the hospital wants to cut me loose on Monday or whener my lipids have normalized. My hernia operation will be as an outpatient sometime later. I can’t even process Jello yet without blowing up like a balloon. Here’s your socialized medicine the Donkeys arepushing for, folks. At least the wait time fot the surgery will only be three weeks or so instead of three years, only because I guilt tripped them… The outrage. It burns.
Glad you’re still with us man.
Damn. That’s terrible, bud. I hope you get healthy quick.
Wut? wtf kind of hernia is that?
The hernia secondary, it was the pancreatisis that damn near finishedand maybe a fucked up gall bladder but they don’t know certain. They took an unproven cause and tunnel visioned it just like the cops are wont to do. They seem to derive sick pleasure from telling me that I drink too much.
Sorry about that Festus. Heal up quickly.
Once again, Bill Cosby was full of shit. Not to compare you with him, my late-night compatriot.
I miss everything. Dish.
Hey! I got to ride in an ambulance AND terrify Wifey. Winning!
Dude, you are livin’ THE life!
I did that a few years ago. Scared SP and, I’m guessing, your wife as well.
Festus, dude, tell your body to straighten up and fly right.
DUDE! Take care and get that fixed. What would this place be without you?
Hear, hear!!
Sorry Festus. I hope for the best and I hope you heal up.
I’m pretty sure I’ve already made this confession, but I don’t’ care, I’m gonna do it again. I am in lust with Morgan James.
That…doesn’t really tell us much about her, Other than her singing chops.
Are you blind?
Sorta. I mean…she’s so far from the camera. No close-ups…
Hell, get CPRM on the case–he could re-shoot it to feature her more
Fine. Here’s our girl Morgan with a couple friends.
‘Preciate that. Of course, I wasn’t attempting to argue her “merits” with you so much as critiquing the video’s lack of “focus”.
I compliment your (and Suthen’s) tastes.
She’s Purdy…
Thank you for that.
You will have to get in line behind me.
But I saw her first!
*sulks*
No. She’s even copying Steven Tyler’s gestures. Just come out and fuck him. Or get fucked by him. Whatever floats your boat.
You know who else copied Steven Tyler?
Stephen Pearcy?
You know who else is a fucking train wreck?
Everyone who is or was in Ratt?
::squints::
OK–I’ll allow it. This time.
Badly to be sure.
Alright, big brother–RATT is my band. RIP Robbin, and all that.
Dude. She sing better than him and has a much nicer ass.
Pffft. Let me know when she does something original.
Dude, at least try to hide your projection.
Maybe Hil-dog has him as hostage, and he’s trying to get a “coded” message out to us…
Or, he’s just a fuck head.
He has gotta be doing that on purpose
Pays the bills plus think of all those fantastic cocktail parties!
Just giving his readers what they want to hear. I doubt he believes a word of it.
At some point in the near future they will accuse the R’s of holding secret investigations, hearings, etc.
Did I hear earlier that Pelosi said there will be no full house vote? If not then why the investigation? They are just faking it saying impeach impeach impeach over and over to make people think this performance art investigation means Trump is already impeached in order to ruin the election for him?
That’s totally gonna work and they will sweep the polls. Prepare for President Beta.
That guy makes my skin crawl worse than Obama. Imagine having to listen to him for four years.
And then watching him get root canals and hair cuts for four years. At least he can change a tire.
She is technically correct that a House vote is not necessary; but not having one would break convention. You know, like they constantly accuse Orange of doing.
SP; if you are lurking. Please check your spam folder for a missive from me.
Wink wink, nudge nu–Oh, hi there, OMWC!
Candid, you know, CANDID photography?
The BEST kind of photography!
Well, just after time-lapse…
I’ll nudge her after we’re done.
Well, that was the best 14 seconds of her life.
That’s like, almost two rodeos, right?
What, sixteen seconds?
?
A man among boys.
You’re thinking of priests.
What you did there? I narrowed a gaze at it.
She found it in spam, and will be able to help you tomorrow after school.
No hurry.
Trying my damndest to fall asleeo in the next five minutes so I can get at least 4hrs sleep; but my body ain’t taking no part in that. These turble Fridays will be coming to an end soon, damn I these.
You bet you do!
It’s like mad libs round here, MAD Libs!
If there were any libs here I suspect they would be mad libs
Bring this to your bunk. After a brief moment of excitement, you will drift off to sleep.
NSFW. At all.
Perverts! The lot of you. *Goes to bunk*
I prefer “kinkist”, if you would be so kind.
Can South Africa make the third Test remotely competitive? We will see. (With the NBA and NFL overrun by proggie retards, I’m all-in on cricket. I played some as a kid, and the only pro athlete I’ve ever been personally acquainted with who wasn’t a relative was a cricketer, so there’s some personal connection. I need to get back into rugby too – also played it, and a cousin was a pro and US National team player.)
You can’t know how to play cricket unless you know what a crumpit is!
I thought Elias Koteas was rather good as Casey. Not that he was the best, but, I liked him in it.
/I knew exactly what that was.
They took the bold step of not dumbing it down for the kids they knew would watch it, which is why almost 30 years later it is still the best adaptation.
And, Corey Feldman!
/ducks, runs
No, I agree with that assessment. HS friend was in lust with Judith Hoag back then. Whatevs…
I bet that same guy still faps to Aprl O’Niel
Early returns say – yes! 43/3 for those of us whose internet is out.
Whoever suggested MusicBee to replace WinAmp thank you! I think I’ll like it after I get acclimated to its functions. I do like its tagging better than WinAmp, that’s for sure.
VLC, I just couldn’t get a handle on that.
Cool! Yeah, I misunderstood what you needed & would not have suggested VLC for music. It does stand for VideoLAN Client, after all 🙂
/Still amazed to see a reference to WinAmp in the wild. I think I used it briefly about 15 years ago.
Oh, no problem! I actually didn’t catch on to it because I’d been recommended VLC before, so your suggestion was kind of an affirmation of it.
But…it was not doing what I needed it to do for music.
Whee! Winamp has been my favorite audio player for many years. I do use VLC for video though. Did any of y’all ever use MoodLogic? I put in many hundreds of hours scanning and rating songs only to have the whole thing go tits up.
MikeS you obviously need a strong, musical woman to fap too. Have at it.
https://youtu.be/P6iOXqZJQ7A
Chafed, I don’t know how, but I was saying, before I even clicked, “I wonder if this is Doro Pesch…”
You and me, bro–same wavelength, different time zones.
My brother from another mother.
*narrows gaze*
Don’t be jealous my Steven Tyler disrespecting friend.
Ms. Faptastic
Really? She never did anything for me but to each their own.
Now those chicks in Poison….
I have to say–that surprises me. Well…sorta. I guess there are gonna be accounting discrepancies in tastes.
MikeS knows all about accounting.
He knows all about how to drop it.
Me either, really. But hey, hot chick playing guitar.
My thing is really hot bass players.
Pikers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdLNfjAKY6Q
Q wins this round…
Q must have that as his wallpaper.
Never heard of them. Me likey.
Great choice. Here’s one more.
https://youtu.be/yPNFVj-pISU
In keeping with our overall theme…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csUf0MAUIs4
I will refrain from posting my favorite bass player.
You’re welcome.
Q worthy.
https://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2019/10/girls-with-guns_18.html
On the SFW NSFW border
There’s a song for that.
And now we know why Ted Nugent likes him.
Here is my Girls With Guns Pinterest board.
You and Q can do an article on holsters in bras.
Thank you.
Here is my crush playing bass in a song you’ve heard before. (she also was in the Smashing Pumpkins for a while)
There was a guy in Hole? When did that happen?
No idea. Melissa Auf der Maur is the only person in that band I give any shits about.
That’s not what I’m flapping to Mo but you use what works for you.
If they’d just hired a singer and made it a quartet, the world would be a much better place.
Let it out Mike. Don’t keep it in.
https://youtu.be/neq4QhMtNFY
Look at this guy. Making both me and Mo’ happy at the same time.
Aw, I feel so melty now!
Something about “messy”….
Peace out Glibs, gotta be to work in 4 1/2 hrs.
Sweet dreams, dude.
Yeah–rest up. You got work after work.
Rookie
He’s not always “on the job”.
Ultra-crushin’-it BBQ tomorrow.
Gonna ultra crush it.
Ultra crush it
Criss Burns
5 years ago
Imagine what she could do to your head with those.
The first iteration of Xenia Onatopp before Standards and Practices got hold of the script.
That, that was different……..
We are strengthened by our differences. Or, something like that.
Yikes. No thank you. *slowly backs out of room*
I say she doesn’t even deserve an ‘e’.
LOL tremble before our assholery!
See, this is the problem. Y’all are represented by people like this outside of the city. It’s like how Americans have a shitty reputation based on the kinds of people who go on cruises and loudly announce that they’re American as they’re doing something stupid. Or like how French people leave France.
Those of us who aren’t assholes don’t go out of our way to advertise where we are from. You know, like normal people.
It’s a conundrum. In life, I find the loudest, most annoying members of any group are pushed to the outside, where they’re the first people seen by people looking in.
Yes, that truism is applicable in many areas.
This, I like.
So much this.
Ayn Rand was famously criticized for her famous scene about the train crash in the Taggart Tunnel where she briefly introduces some of those about to die. I see this woman and think, “I wish I could by her a ticket on that run of the Comet.”
This isn’t a very nice thing to say, but whenever people say some tough-guy shit like that, I always desperately want to call them on it. It’s not exactly a witty riposte, but a part of me always thinks, “I can stuff you into a garbage can against your will, but yeah, you live somewhere and you’re rude, so I guess we’re an even match.”
Well it was one of those days at work and Wifey took out her unfounded anger at me. But now it’s off to dreamland before I have to listen to the same crap tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/KDveDuHo3qo
Good night, BROTHER!
Good night, BROTHER!
Hey, SP, I think my friend’s application to be able to post here at Glibs is delayed or something…? I think username neovictorian.
OMG, a Vicky?
/Diamond Age fan?
Oh YES. I am so going to prime his pump. https://neovictorian23.wordpress.com/
One of those random Twitter connections you stumble over and then whammy. Frens!
Apparently, Winston’s mom had a late
clientdate.All is well, nothing too crazy happened. Though, a woman I’ve known for over twenty years and consider my little sister decided to get too drunk and try to pick a fight with me over a playful, Glib, remark I made(really, you people are a terrible influence), so I boned out; didn’t want to let my buddy’s birthday get upstaged by that nonsense, and before I left, I told her I was sorry for striking a nerve that I didn’t mean to strike, it wasn’t meant to be malicious, just teasing, because she’s my goddamn little sister, kissed her on the forehead, told her I love her, and left. She was still cursing me as I walked away.
I’m not angry, just a bit sad. However, after the onslaught of derp I endured beforehand, and the unexpected emotional attack from a dear friend, I still managed to never lose my cool, did my best to stay rational without being condescending, and never raised my voice in anger.
…So don’t tell me mind-altering, illicit substances are always a negative to society. I’m a naturally high-strung person, believe it or not, and there’s a HUGE amount of unexpressed resentment, love, hate, and a myriad of other emotions between me and her. So, if I was only drinking, that could have been a very ugly verbal exchange that made everybody’s night a shitshow.
…You know what’s fucked up? I began my rant with “nothing too crazy happened”. What the hell is wrong with me? Why am I talking to you people about this? Where’s my Dre CD?..fuck, I don’t own a CD player anymore.
Well….A) you’re in luck, as it seems no one is around (I’m a meat popsicle, so I don’t count)
And, 2) DAT or, GTFO
I’m sorry, TH. What an awful incident.
I tried to find a song to cheer you up, but I don’t know what would be helpful at the moment.
No, I’m talking about fanatical centrists,
I hate those filthy Neutrals, Kif…