Catalonia Update. The Last Ride of Don Swissxote?

I have begged OMWC to have this morning’s spot. In place of your normal links, you get…The Last Ride (?) of Don Swissxote.

 

Is Barcelona Burning?

The TRIAL OF TEH CENTURY (Sedition charges against the leaders of the 2017 Catalan Independence referendum) finished up. The announced verdicts were about what was expected. Then things got a bit unruly. Pro-independence groups called a general strike Friday. Here is a slim BBC blurb on that.

So here we are, Catalans. The EU is backing Madrid, of course. Nobody seems to be ready to do anything other than clear a throat or maybe give with a mild “harumph”. It is up to you. Do you want to be independent? You will have to fight for it. And I mean FIGHT. Armed combat. Killing. Property damage. Not protest, strike, and wave banners.

Some of the Basque tried. For over 50 years the ETA waged low level war. They failed…But to me at least, they were a group more “leftist” than “fighting for independence”.

So, will Catalonia take up arms?

I think they will not do so. They have had 2 years to be ready for this day…and not a whole lot else happened. What took place were the actions of a people that prefer independence, in the same manner you prefer a salad dressing. “Oh, its not available? OK, I’ll settle for ________.”

 

“The Barcelona Yoke Passing”

 

Don Swissxote can hang up his spurs.

Comments

211 responses to “Catalonia Update. The Last Ride of Don Swissxote?”

  1. Fourscore

    “So, will Catalonia take up arms?”

    It would cost them dearly, unfortunately and probably not win in the long run.

  2. Tonio

    So, in practical terms how would they do this? Do they just field green irregulars with long guns and start sniping at government? Would they be able to ramp up training in order to have something resembling regulars?

    1. Fourscore

      Need logistics and local support of the people.

    2. DEG

      They could look to the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising.

  3. Gender Traitor

    And I mean FIGHT. Armed combat. Killing. Property damage. Not protest, strike, and wave banners.

    Is there a people anywhere in this world who may be prepared to do just that, whether to overthrow their government or to break away from one country to form another independent state? Would it have to be a people from a much less well off part of the world – people with much less to lose in tangible terms? I don’t know if Hong Kong is that place – or anywhere in Europe.

    Is the age of revolution dead?

    Enough with the questions. I’m starting to sound like Judge Nap.

    1. Sean

      The middle east?

      1. Gender Traitor

        Mebbe. Might the Kurds in general – not just the subset the U.S. has been working with (from what little I know of the situation) – ever get that organized?

        1. The Last American Hero

          They could if they had the help of someone like Swiss E. Lawrence to help them out with arms and a bold strategy.

    2. I’d bet there are people willing to assassinate Boris Johnson to prevent Brexit.

      1. Gender Traitor

        “I’d bet there are people willing to pay someone to assassinate Boris Johnson…”

        More likely scenario, I suspect – someone with bucks but not the balls to dirty their own hands, hiring someone who doesn’t give a shit either way but is happy to kill whoever for the right price. Regime change via outsourcing.

        1. Tres Cool

          That you, Hillary ?

          1. Gender Traitor

            ‘Mornin, Tres! Isn’t it a lovely morning in Monkey Co., OH? : )

          2. Tres Cool

            This is a really great morning. I even made sausage gravy and biscuits for Jugsy.
            And AIGS of course.

          3. Gender Traitor

            Biscuits & gravy were not part of my upbringing. (Mom’s mom was German, so that may be why.) Years ago I was working in a daycare center, and we were teaching the kids the days of the week. One little boy could always remember Sunday ‘cuz that was the day they had biscuits & gravy. I figured if they were good enough to help him remember Sunday, I should give ’em a try.

            Biscuits & gravy are teh awesome.

          4. Hardee’s has the best biscuits and gravy.

          5. Tres Cool

            And why did I read that in the voice of Clevon Little in ‘Blazing Saddles’ ?

    3. Tejicano

      Timor-Leste would like to have a word.

      1. Gender Traitor

        Thanks for that! Vaguely remember “East Timor” mentions in the news, but had forgotten what little I knew.

        1. Tejicano

          It always seemed that East Timor breaking away from Indonesia was OK by UN standards because this was brown people sticking it to the brown people who had previously stuck it to the Dutch. Enemy of our enemy being our friend and all that. It’s OK when it’s other people but inside the EU family we’re all supposed to be towing the wyppipo lion.

          1. Rhywun

            About all I remember is that East Timor was one of Noam Chomsky’s favorite hobby-horses.

    4. TARDIS

      I’m starting to sound like Judge Nap.

      Needz moar TDS!

      1. Gender Traitor

        Even if I were so inclined, I wouldn’t bestir myself that much on a Saturday morning. I’m all about the indolence and sloth, baby!

        1. TARDIS

          Indolence and sloth are fine hobbies, at least for the weekend. Maybe follow up in the afternoon with some imbibing of fine spirits?

          1. Gender Traitor

            ‘Round these parts, Saturday afternoon is for napping. Woke up early this morning, but with a nap under my belt and an as-yet-uncorked bottle of rose (still can’t do that accent aigu thing. Screw it!) in the fridge, I may be up for the late night Glibbing.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Yeah, I’ll m on your schedule. Will need a nap after last night’s imbibing.

      2. Mister Napolitano. He’s no longer a judge.

        1. TARDIS

          He may no longer be sane either.

    5. Hyperion

      “Is there a people anywhere in this world who may be prepared to do just that, whether to overthrow their government or to break away from one country to form another independent state?”

      Only in the USA, no one else has any guns.

  4. Stinky Wizzleteats

    The Catalans won’t do jack, at least on a large scale. They’re comfortable and have too much to lose just like most places in the West.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      That’s how I see it. I grew up in a place and environment of threats of separation and have heard all the reasons and excuses for it. I’ve heard Catalans and other secessionist leaders come speak to Quebec (remember this is where that meddlesome loud mouth De Gaulle screamed ‘Vive le Quebec libre’.

      Never accepted the reasons. It was all romantic with some objective reasons mixed in to make it appear like it’s worth the hassle. My impression has always been the leaders of these movements are more romantic than realistic.

      Like Quebec. Way too good they have it.

      All this ‘national identity’ talk is cute until the wallets are hit.

      1. BakedPenguin

        “D’accord, laisse le. Non? Alors ferme la gueule.”

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Lol.

          Tabernak.

      2. The Last American Hero

        Could they pull a soft revolution? One where people just stopped paying taxes as they no longer recognize the old government. It’s hard to arrest a whole province.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      They’re comfortable and have too much to lose just like most places in the West.

      This. Compared to most of the world, its pretty nice in Spain.

  5. Another form of rebellion giving authorities the vapors

    Gardai have been alerted to an “extremely offensive” sign, reminiscent of the Nazi era, placed at a social welfare office in Co Cork.

    Members of the public expressed their anger after discovering that a sign placed above the door of the Cork Intreo office on Hanover Street read ‘Jobpath Macht Frei’.

    Note the Newspeak name of the welfare office, two words deliberately joined up into one with the ultimate intention of getting people to think less about what the organization does.

    1. Gender Traitor

      Yup. “Department of Social Protection” sounds so warm & fuzzy. Who could criticize that?

      1. I can’t even think of a non-euphemism for welfare. Living expense transfer payments?

        1. Gender Traitor

          Wealth redistribution?

          1. Fourscore

            Free shit (here)

        2. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Gettin’ paid, yo?

        3. Jarflax

          Alms

    2. TARDIS

      I see they haven’t installed the Social Credit ATM yet, so that’s good…so far.

    3. Rhywun

      A sign was placed… sorry-not-sorry was expressed….

      Way to own up, there, IreGov.

  6. Rhywun

    Do you want to be independent? You will have to fight for it. And I mean FIGHT.

    Do you not want to pay an extra four cents [Ed.: about three percent] to ride the subway?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      It looks like that isn’t what kicked it off so much as the straw that broke the camel’s back.

      1. Rhywun

        The free shit is too damn not high enough!

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      In 1970, Quebec and Canada got a glimpse of what a fight could look like when the terrorist group the FTQ wanted to spark a violent revolution for independence. They killed a politician (Pierre Laporte) and Pierre Trudeau (the smart one) invoked the War Measures Act – martial law – sending the army into the streets of Montreal.

      I think people at that point said, no thanks. Even though the spill over did lead to the election of the Parti Quebecois (there have always been nationalist parties in Quebec) in 1976. On average, 25% of the population support the PQ/independence. But that’s not enough to leave Confederation.

      I mean, Canada is the most docile, weak Federation in all of the West. Quebec is essentially autonomous so at this point it’s just a cherry on top they’re looking for.

      This is the most famous moment in Canadian history when Trudeau said ‘just watch me’. Hence his legend grew. You have to understand, up to that point no Canadian leader ever stood up for Canada. When Trudeau did so, Canadian pride surged.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeTsQQ22Uwc

      Sorry. Don’t mean to hijack. I just see similarities between where I live and Catalonia.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Let me rephrase. One of the most famous moments in history. No PM ever spoke this way up to that point.

    3. Jarflax

      Let them ride helicopters!

  7. Rhywun

    Today in identity politics derp:

    The proposed law is aimed specifically at increasing the number of women in the FDNY

    Followed by lots of anguish from the usual suspects over how toxically white and male the department is. This stood out:

    And of the nearly 4,000 women who made the cutoff on the multiple-choice exam, only 3.4 percent scored high enough to get invited to take the physical exam, compared to 6.3 percent of men who passed the cutoff.

    (Wo)man, how hard is that test?!

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Please jump over this poll: It’s two feet high. YOU’RE IN!

    2. Gender Traitor

      I can’t find anywhere in the article that tells how many women pass the physical exam. Because of course, there’d be no downside to lowering the physical standard to become a firefighter./sarc

      1. Akira

        This is how the Leftist view of gender equality is seriously harmful. Military, police, and fire departments have already had lower standards for women for years. They act like it’s a big sexist conspiracy to keep women out, but it’s there because those jobs require a certain level of physical fitness so that people don’t die.

        It’s just a biological fact that all other things being equal, a man is going to be stronger than a woman. It shouldn’t be remotely controversial to have physical standards and accept that more women are going to flunk out. It’s fucking clown world.

        Of course, some departments/agencies have responded by lowering the physical standard for both genders, so now they’re admitting unfit men in addition to unfit women. Just doubling down on the wrong.

    3. Gender Traitor

      … the department’s nearly 9,000 Bravest…

      If that phrase makes me puke, does that make me a bad person?

      1. That’s not what makes you a bad person. :-p

        1. Gender Traitor

          “I’m not bad. I’m just drawn that way.” (Hmmmm….change avatar to another redhead?)

      2. Rhywun

        If that phrase makes me puke

        The cops call themselves “The Finest”.

        You’re welcome.

    4. Jarflax

      Is the cutoff the minimum acceptable score and the percentage invited just the FDNY saying we have X slots so we invite the top X passing candidates?

      1. Rhywun

        Yeah, that makes some sense. Plus some extra to account for the number they expect to fail the physical test.

        It’s almost like sloppy reporting or something leads to questions like these.

        1. Jarflax

          Media types are just intelligent enough to sound good to the masses, but not intelligent enough to actually do their job.

  8. DEG

    Moreover, commenting on the ruling, which condemns the leaders of the ‘Catalan process’, the former Catalonian President also hit out at the EU for its role .

    Mr Puigdemont accused the EU of “shutting up” in the face of the violence that was seen on October 1, 2017.

    He added: “This Europe dances to the sound of the Spanish State, which prevents the representatives of more than two million European citizens from sitting in the European Parliament.”

    Uhh…. if the EU takes the Catalanians’ side, that might set a bad precedent with things like Brexit.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      How can the EU side with Catalonia? It’s busy consolidating national sovereignty into Brussels. Makes no sense for them to do so.

      It’s as if we form a North American Union with all power funnelling into, say, Baltimore (Side Show Bob shudder) and then allowing for Quebec to leave.

      Defeats the purpose of a union.

      1. DEG

        Exactly, you just can’t have people leaving. The peasants might get uppity.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          I should add the last referendum we had in 1995 was extremely nerve racking. It left a really bitter mark on some, anxiety on others. To this day even.

          I don’t think people appreciate the angst it produces. And this is in Canada where we don’t really have a history of political violence outside some rebellions but not in the 20th century anyway. You felt it in the air. It was truly not knowing if Canada was gong to cease to exist.

          I wouldn’t recommend it.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            It was truly SURREAL not knowing Canada was GOING. But gong could work because listening to nationalists, they do sound like they belong on The Gong Show sometimes.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The Fourth Reich isn’t going to let people just walk away.

  9. The Late P Brooks

    And I mean FIGHT. Armed combat. Killing. Property damage. Not protest, strike, and wave banners.

    What would NATO do?

    1. R C Dean

      I don’t think NATO could do much at all.

      The US, on the other hand . . .

      This does sound just like the kind of internal conflict with no particular US interest at stake that we just love to stick our dick in, though.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’d accept some female Catalonian refugees.

      2. TARDIS

        It would be nice if they would just stick their own dicks in, and leave the rest of ours alone. Pricks.

    2. leon

      Fight, whilst the CIA armed the Catalans

  10. Rufus the Monocled

    Swiss, would you support Quebec independence?

    Just curious.

    1. It would be good for the rest of Canada to get rid of the apartheid state in its midst.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I asked the question in all sincerity if anything to see if people see a difference between Catalonian and Quebec independence.

        After the latter, is in our own backyard and would have bigger implications for the USA particularly border states in New England and NY. Regionally, Quebec is a big player.

        1. Rhywun

          I’ve never been to Quebec but I have spent a couple months in Catalonia and while it was decades ago, I saw (for example) no evidence of the sort of language issues I have heard about from Quebec. Everyone speaks Spanish. Some speak Catalan. Everything ‘official’ or commercial is bilingual.

          So bottom line, I came to the conclusion that, if anything, Catalonia seems more “integrated” into Spain than Quebec does into Canada.

          Just a hot-take.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            I agree. Quebec is childish and immature when it comes to language.

            They refuse to put up road signs in English even though it’s a safety issue. But here, language is political. So you’ll see French signs in Vermont, NY and Ontario but none in Quebec.

            Who is more mature?

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            That is no English signs in Quebec.

          3. Jarflax

            They (rightly) assume that if they allow you to use the language of your choice English will win out. They (wrongly) assume that this is a bad thing.

          4. grrizzly

            One exception: the signs pointing to the U.S. border say “USA.” But it’s for American visitors .

          5. Rufus the Monocled

            Jarflax, yes they are. And which is why I don’t mind the efforts to protect it. But not when it’s punitive.

            Grizzly, don’t follow. They have literal signs miles after the border in VT/NY and in Ontario I see them all along right until Niagara Falls.

          6. grrizzly

            I was saying that in Montreal the signs say USA instead of Les Etats Unis for the directions to the US border. Americans wouldn’t understand the latter.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    Whenever I hear talk about some sort of American split, I ask myself what happens to the people on the wrong side? What do the Pacificafornians do with their rednecks and deplorables? Do they forcibly evict them from their land and expel them into the desert? Expropriate their stuff?

    Same question for Catalonia.

    1. Suthenboy

      It is unlikely they would have to expropriate them. They will take their stuff. That is SOP.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      They never talk about this. For years we tried to ask the nationalists specifics. The answer is ‘don’t worry. It’ll work itself out. Canada will comply’ etc.

      But that’s not enough. It’s a COUNTRY you’re breaking from. People and their lives are at stake.

      Why I never took Quebec separation seriously is because their demands were: They would still be a part of the military , keep the Canadian passport and dollar, not pay its portion of the debt and maintain Canadian bonds. Basically, they were like the teenager who wanted to live on their own but expected the parents to pay the rent.

      It got so dopey some guy wrote, ‘White Niggers of America’.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Vallières

      The author has since denounced the book.

      They laughably said the rest of Canada would have no choice in the discussion and just come to the table and eat their pride. As for how the United States figured into all this, only one book, as far as I know, was written about how they would react. Incidentally, by a nationalist Jean-Francois Lisee titled, ‘In the eye of the Eagle’. Rumours had it that the U.S. mobilized a military unit on the Vermont border in 1995.

      As for our economy, we’re a ‘have-not’ province and not as diversified as we should be. So off the top we’re batting with one hand.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        The other angle is my family owns stuff here. The uncertainty is a killer. It’s easy for someone in Alberta to say ‘fuck them let them leave’ but for me it’s a little harder. I would leave Quebec but how do I take properties with me? Already property values here are among the lowest in Canada. I wonder if there’s a Catalan equivalent to me. Someone who doesn’t think it’s a sound move because of our predicament.

        These are serious questions. I couldn’t care less about cute girls waving flags. Shit is real.

        I forgot to mention that in Quebec there’s the belief that if Quebec leaves. Then Montreal will secede from Quebec. Never mind the Natives want absolutely nothing to do with Quebec; especially the prosperous and capitalist Cree who kick ass.

        The Natives tolerate Canada but loathe Quebec for some reason.

        These are also questions the nationalists won’t answer. What will you do if violence erupts? Send the police? The SQ? These are police forces; not riot armies trained for political unrest.

        I’ve gone on long enough. Just trying to add some poutine to this.

        1. R C Dean

          The partition of India involved ethnic cleansing because of religious hatreds. I don’t see ethnic cleansing if Quebec or Catalonia (or California) secede. Why wouldn’t you be able to keep your property, rent it, sell it at an acceptable price, whatever?

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            I think, to some extent, it would be ‘business as usual’.

            The property we’d hold, but we don’t know what would have happened to the value of it.

            Not sure I follow the question in the sense that if Quebec seceded, our economy is tied to Canada and if we ceased using the dollar, what would happen to costs, inflation, prices etc.?

            Thankfully, it never came to that. However, a theory little talk about is part of the reason why Quebec real estate lags IS BECAUSE of the constant political uncertainty.

            My family sold a property in the heard of Montreal (Jean-Talon market) that would fetch five times the price in Toronto.

            Montreal and Toronto were once 1 and 1A Alpha males. Now, Montreal is a beta since 1976.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            heart.

    3. Hyperion

      “Whenever I hear talk about some sort of American split, I ask myself what happens to the people on the wrong side? What do the Pacificafornians do with their rednecks and deplorables? Do they forcibly evict them from their land and expel them into the desert? Expropriate their stuff?”

      I’m sure all of those would be leaving on their own.

  12. Rhywun

    Mo, just saw your reply about your Vicky friend. His novel looks interesting; wish-listed.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of casting out demons

    Gay rights campaigners called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A, which opened its first branch at The Oracle shopping centre in Reading on 10 October.

    A spokeswoman for the centre said “the right thing to do” was to not extend the restaurant’s lease beyond the “six-month pilot period”.

    Chick-fil-A said its donations were purely focused on youth and education.

    The family-owned company, founded in Atlanta in 1967, is one of the biggest fast-food chains in the USA and boasts about 2,400 outlets across North America.

    According to US news website Think Progress, in 2017 the Chick-fil-A Foundation donated millions of dollars to the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, the Paul Anderson Youth Home and the Salvation Army.

    Campaigners from LGBT organisation, Reading Pride, said all three organisations have a reputation of being hostile to LGBT rights.

    Keep it up, assholes.

    1. Rhywun

      The good people of Reading are better off without that tainted blood-chicken anyway.

    2. leon

      Aren’t these allegations that they paid a lawyer baseless? But Snopes tried to cover for them?

    3. The Last American Hero

      Fake news. No business is moving into a shopping mall in 2019.

    4. Hyperion

      “Speaking of casting out demons

      Gay rights campaigners called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A”

      Chick-fil-A must be prepping for windfall profits next quarter. Are we sure this isn’t an inside job?

  14. Crusty Juggler

    ‘Pervert teacher, 28, offered boy ride home from school then took him to beach and had sex with him

    The math teacher reportedly began grooming the boy after he asked her for help with his work last fall. She offered to drive him home in February this year, then stopping at her place to get something en route. Once inside, Parris is said to have begun kissing the boy, who had grown close to her asking for homework help during fall 2018, before stripping off.

    Her alleged predatory behavior is said to have made the boy uncomfortable, and prompted him to tell her to stop. She did so, and drove him home, but is said to have sexually abused the boy a week later after suggesting a trip to the beach. air rage on board of Moscow to Phuket planePassengers wrap drunk man in cling film after he tried to kick open plane door A fortnight later, Parris reportedly offered the boy a ride home after spotting him walking back from school, then took him to the beach where they had sex again. She is also said to have sent him nude photos and a message saying: ‘I love you.’ The age of consent in Florida is 18 years-old. Parris’ colleagues began to grow suspicious of her behavior after noticing them arriving at the school together on multiple occasions.

    The teacher has denied the allegations against her, and highlighted an inconsistency in his original story, which saw him claim one encounter had taken place at her home.

    My goodness.

    1. Gender Traitor

      Ummm….there’s a weird nonsense non sequitur phrase in the middle of that blockquote…

      1. AlmightyJB

        I just incorporated into the story in my mind.

      2. You don’t want to wrap a drunk guy in cling film?

        1. Akira

          No, but if we’re talking about that teacher, I would like to Phuket.

      3. Crusty Juggler

        Shut up!

    2. Hyperion

      When I was a 16 year old, I would have banged everyone of my teachers who was half way decent looking if I got the chance. A 16 year old boy is not a child.

  15. AlmightyJB

    Russia, Russia, Russia….I guess you can jump the shark over and over and no one notices anymore.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/10/18/new-hillary-theory-russians-grooming-gabbard-third-party-bid/

      1. AlmightyJB

        Lol. That’s great:)

      2. MikeS

        A comment by westernsloper was the inspiration.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Jones’ comment was actually loosely based on facts and was hyperbolic, Clinton either actually believes the Russia nonsense or she’s cynically using it because she thinks the Dem rank and file are stupid and uninformed enough to buy it. She’s a horrible person whatever the case may be.

        1. Rhywun

          Clinton doesn’t have any beliefs or principles. It’s all an act.

        2. leon

          “cynically using it because she thinks the Dem rank and file are stupid and uninformed enough to buy it.”

          Yeah. There are a lot of Dems who believe the Russian narrative.

        3. MikeS

          Don’t disagree. But to Clintonistas, Jones is an insane conspiracy mongerer and to compare her to him would pop blood vessels, I suspect.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I wasn’t knocking your meme BTW, I liked it just fine.

      4. Fatty Bolger

        Love it!

      5. Mad Scientist

        Then you;re really going to enjoy the image in this Babylon Bee article.

        1. MikeS

          Correction:

          A comment by westernsloper and an image in a Bee article were was the inspiration.

          ?

    1. leon

      “Update from @merica: when asked if the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard, Clinton spox Nick Merrill said, “If the nesting doll fits.”

      “This is not some outlandish claim,” Merrill added. “This is reality.””

      Ok it’s one thing when Hillary says these things. She’s insane. But then to go along with it and act like everyone else is insane for calling it out? That’s evil.

      1. R C Dean

        Gab are should sue for defamation. It was stated as a fact, not opinion.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Now to watch the Clinton water carriers and hangers on come out of the woodwork to cover for this obvious bullshit while by accusing the noninsane of being Putinistas. They’re disgusting, the lot of them.

    2. kbolino

      We’ve gone from “everybody who disagrees with me is Hitler” to “everybody who disagrees with me is Putin’s puppet”. Ah, the party of science. Remember when reality had a “well known liberal bias”?

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I wonder how many of them actually believe this rather than being afraid to speak up and say it’s nonsense in public? It can’t be that many can it?

        1. kbolino

          The rabid dominate the discussion now, that’s for sure. Getting reasonable arguments out there is a lot more difficult than agreeing with or ignoring the crazies.

  16. Crusty Juggler

    MTA relied on ‘honor system’ while shelling out $1.4B in overtime pay, report finds

    The MTA shelled out $1.4 billion in overtime alone last year — yet had no way to guarantee its employees actually worked the extra hours they claimed, the agency’s inspector general said Friday.

    Instead, many of the MTA’s supervisors “relied entirely on the honesty of employees” — creating an “honor system” rife with opportunities for fraud, IG Carolyn Pokorny concluded after a review of the 75 overtime-collecting “high-rollers” among the agency’s 70,000-person workforce.

    Of particular concern were transit workers who spent their overtime hours away from their regular work site and the supervisors responsible for approving their timesheets.

    Amazon is worse imho

    1. kbolino

      And everybody just assumes there’s a “right” number of hours to work. What about results?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        I hear bitching from hourly people about so and so is an overtime hog and he’s just milking yet. I just internally roll my eyes. Yeah, ok, maybe they are milking it. But what about the first 40 hours, including standing around complaining about the milker? My estimate is even with overtime, it’s cheaper than another person’s base wages plus benefits.

  17. leon

    “https://reason.com/2019/10/18/score-one-for-trumps-trade-policy-putting-online-speech-protections-in-trade-deals-makes-sense/

    Real trade deals require no negotiation.

    1. Fourscore

      Or regulation

  18. The Late P Brooks

    The other angle is my family owns stuff here. The uncertainty is a killer. It’s easy for someone in Alberta to say ‘fuck them let them leave’ but for me it’s a little harder. I would leave Quebec but how do I take properties with me?

    That’s the question. There are a lot of Democrats in Jesusland America, with homes, businesses, roots; what do they do? Take pennies on the dollar to go live on the street in Salinas, California?

    *I contemplated making some sort of hokey wordplay juxtaposing Salina, Kansas and Salinas, California, but refrained.

    1. R C Dean

      Why would their property be worth pennies on the dollar? Why would they have to sell?

      1. leon

        That’s what I’m asking. I have no problem with Californians or New Yorkers. I just don’t want Washington DC ruling like an autocratic dictator.

    2. Rhywun

      I’ll say it again: America’s division is not between states; it’s between the cities/suburbs and rural areas. Nobody’s going to divide that.

      1. ^^^This.

        In broad generalizations:

        City: Ethnic minorities and white uber-woke squad.
        Suburbs: Soccer mom safety obsessed. Beyond that, whatever’s fashionable.
        Rural: F-150s, gun racks and Don’t Tread on Me flags.

      2. leon

        Maybe. The thing is some of that cutters are clearly culturally more conservative than liberal. Take Boise or SLC for example. The cities are liberal, but not nearly as much as east coast

      3. kbolino

        The state borders are anachronistic. Their only saving grace is they don’t change, which makes the Senate impossible to gerrymander. While I think there is a real rural/urban divide, it isn’t the only geographic division that has cultural weight. Get outside of the DC metro area, and attitudes change significantly, even in urban areas.

        1. Rhywun

          Sure, but I do believe the urban/rural divide is more significant than any regional divide. *shrugs* It’s all silly speculation anyway.

          1. kbolino

            I might just be wearing jade-colored glasses, but everytime I get away from central Maryland, I find people to be a lot friendlier and a lot less crazy.

          2. kbolino

            Some of this is probably tourist bias. I live in central Maryland; when I visit other states (PA, OH, IN), I’m a tourist, not a resident.

          3. Jarflax

            Anecdotally . I live in Ohio and when I have been in MD I was a tourist, and I found MD people to be crazy rude assholes. Honestly I had better experiences in Jersey than Maryland. The people in Jersey were rude in that sort of comradely rude to your buddies, but with a smile and welcoming you to be rude back. The people in Maryland, especially Baltimore, very clearly meant their rudeness.

          4. Gender Traitor

            The people in Maryland, especially Baltimore, very clearly meant their rudeness.

            If they know you’re a tourist, they resent the fact that you get to leave MD.

      4. Hyperion

        Yeah, it’s sort of like that. Which is why when you get out of Baltimore City or West of South of Annapolis, you may as well be in a different country. It goes from deep blue to deep red in a matter of a few miles. The only reason any of these states are blue is because most of the population is in the cities. Wife and I were hanging around a couple counties over from here today, it’s ever nice there, beautiful, nice people, tranquil.

        It made me thinks of something. Let’s one up the electoral college and make it by county within each state, so that if you carry the most counties in a state, you win the state. Can you even imagine the epic freak out from the left?

  19. Crusty Juggler

    Quentin Tarantino Won’t Recut ‘Once Upon a Time in Hollywood’ for China

    Quentin Tarantino has no intention of recutting his Once Upon a Time in Hollywood to appease China’s censors.

    A source close to the situation tells The Hollywood Reporter that the auteur is taking a take-it-or-leave-it stance in the wake of Chinese regulators pulling the film from the schedule a week before its release in the country Oct. 25.

    THR reported earlier on Oct. 18 that the release of the acclaimed film, starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt, has been put on hold indefinitely. No explanation was given to Sony Pictures Entertainment, the studio behind the film, as to why. Sony declined to comment.

    The decision to halt the release is speculated to be about Tarantino’s portrayal of the late martial arts hero Bruce Lee, who was of Chinese descent.

    As THR previously reported, sources close to Beijing-based Bona Film Group, which is one of the investors in the film, and China’s Film Bureau, say Bruce Lee’s daughter, Shannon Lee, made a direct appeal to China’s National Film Administration, asking that it demand changes to her father’s portrayal. Friends and family of the Hollywood action star have criticized Tarantino for his portrayal of Lee, saying it doesn’t resemble the real-life man and is instead a caricature.

    Bruce Lee’s daughter collaborating with the ChiComs to censor a Tarantino movie…

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      She’s a class act.

    2. Plinker762

      Maybe she has beautiful eyes…and doesn’t want them harvested.

    3. kbolino

      No shit? A caricature in a Tarantino movie? Man, that’s unheard of.

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Pervert teacher: wood.

    1. +1.

      Also, the kid (adult) was 18. Why the fuck would that be illegal?

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Article says he was 16.

        1. Hyperion

          That still should not be illegal unless she raped him, which I seriously doubt any half way decent looking woman would have to do to any 16 year old boy, I mean if he likes women. I don’t see any abuse there. Kid to an extra Christmas and Birthday this year.

  21. “Do you want to be independent? You will have to fight for it. And I mean FIGHT. Armed combat. Killing. Property damage. Not protest, strike, and wave banners.”

    This has been my general understanding since this beginning of this debacle; and I agree that they won’t. Modern Westerners are far too comfortable/complacent to expend any personal blood and treasure for such a cause.

  22. Silicone Saturday stimulates the sympathetic nervous system and sends signals from the S2 nerve root to the pubococcygeus muscle thus triggering the bulbospongiosus reflex to contract rhythmically and forcibly eject seminal fluid.

    http://archive.li/oupf9

    1. R C Dean

      Whatever happened to euphemisms?

      1. Silicone Saturday slings some love yogurt on happy pillows.

        1. And the first link is fucked up anyway.

          http://archive.li/BzsBE

      2. Sean

        They were rubbed out.

        1. Jarflax

          applause.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    Rampant misogyny

    “The thing we know for sure is that Hillary Clinton is a Donald Trump asset,” Amash, a vocal Trump critic, tweeted late Friday. “Hillary does — and did — drive many people into the arms of Donald Trump. Her attack on Tulsi does likewise.”

    ———

    Clinton on Friday warned during a podcast interview that Russia was poised meddle again in the next U.S. presidential election through online disinformation efforts, and she said Moscow could attempt to sow chaos by encouraging a third-party candidate.

    “She’s the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her, so far,” Clinton said in an apparent reference to Gabbard, who has faced unfounded speculation that her campaign is being amplified by bots and online trolls.

    Gabbard later Friday unleashed an attack on the former secretary of State and 2016 Democratic presidential nominee, calling her the “queen of warmongers” and the “personification of the rot that has sickened the Democratic Party.”

    “From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you,” she said, challenging Clinton to join the primary instead of “cowardly hid[ing] behind your proxies.”

    Good response from Gabbard. Don’t take that shit from her.

    1. leon

      Nice. I like Amash’s response. Though I think it’s a bigger boon for Tulsi than Trump.

    2. The Last American Hero

      I’m waiting for “As a woman who actually has dodged sniper fire…”

    3. Akira

      Clinton on Friday warned during a podcast interview that Russia was poised meddle again in the next U.S. presidential election through online disinformation efforts, and she said Moscow could attempt to sow chaos by encouraging a third-party candidate.

      I have the feeling that nobody but the hardcore Lefties are going to believe this Russian collusion shit next time around. Mueller already blew up that theory himself (despite his own inclination to do otherwise) and too many people have seen this bullshit for what it is.

    1. Tres Cool

      Ill take “what happens after a craigslist hookup” for $500.

    2. Jarflax

      I think Winston’s Mom charges extra for the whole system screwing.

    3. Akira

      I remember a few times as a teenager getting a massive headache immediately afterwards, but it thankfully hasn’t happened since then.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Why would their property be worth pennies on the dollar? Why would they have to sell?

    In the context of civil war and irremediable political/social split?

    I do not expect any of that to ever happen, but the demise of Yugoslavia is a potential template.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    No shit? A caricature in a Tarantino movie? Man, that’s unheard of.

    My thought, exactly.

  26. Rufus the Monocled

    Shifting gears, as I feel I over did and apologize to Swiss, anyone else giggling that a whiner like Harper is forced to watch the Nationals in the World Series?

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/bryce-harper-opens-up-about-nationals-reaching-world-series-without-him-im-so-happy-for-them/

    1. KSuellington

      As an SF Giants fan I take some pleasure in him watching the WS on the teevee. (SF was one of the last teams in contention for Sir Bryce. Although actually I think we dodged a bullet by not getting him. 13 frigging years is ridiculous.)

    1. kbolino

      Well, it’s not your usual fare. I’ll give you that.

      1. Jarflax

        Are you kidding? Beavers on parade is very Q

    2. Fourscore

      Fool me once…

  27. The Late P Brooks

    Race war averted

    Firearms belonging to the suspected leader of a neo-Nazi group who was thought to be preparing for a “race war” have been seized under a “red flag” law in Washington state, according to court documents.

    Authorities removed five rifles, three pistols and other gun components from Kaleb James Cole, 24, under a state law that allows authorities to take guns from people deemed to be a risk to themselves or others for up to a year, authorities said. Cole has not been charged with any crime.

    Seattle City Attorney Pete Holmes believes the seizure, which court documents indicate happened Sept. 26, may have prevented a massacre.

    “This is a hate-filled human being, but unfortunately one who possesses really alarming numbers of weapons,” Holmes said.

    Alarming numbers of guns. Hateful. Scary. Unmutual.

    People like this must be ground to paste by the benevolent agents of the precautionary principle.

    Who the fuck knows, the guy might really be one meaningless slight from gunning a church full of black Southern Baptists (or one parking ticket away from bombing City Hall), but I do not trust the Red Flag Brigades one bit.

    1. kbolino

      Five rifles and three pistols is “alarming numbers of weapons”?

      1. Hyperion

        He was going to start a war with those, lol.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Anyone who thinks 8 guns is an “alarming” number is there to squash your rights, not protect the community.

    3. Rhywun

      “So, that was enough to convince this judge that at least temporarily — let’s take a time out. Let’s take these guns out and see what we’ve got here,” he said. “It isn’t a crime, he’s not being charged, he’s not in jail … it is a way to slow things down.”

      Nothing to see here, citizen – move along.

      1. leon

        “It isn’t a crime, he’s not being charged, he’s not in jail … it is a way to slow things down.””

        Seems like a slam dunk for his lawyer on conspiracy to deny civil rights.

        1. Hyperion

          Yes, it’s a way to slow things down until you can actually take everyone’s guns. We get it.

    4. The Last American Hero

      3 things to note:

      1) The guy is a piece of shit, but there is zero evidence in the poorly written article that he had committed a crime or was about to.
      2) The paper did not allow comments on the article.
      3) This article was on the front page, top right corner. The same day as the antifa protester that brought a gun to the Trump rally was arrested. The antifa protester article was not in the paper.

    1. kbolino

      Remember when Internet death threats were recognized as the low-effort emotionally stunted inconsequential nothing they still are?

      1. ^^^Clearly a racist, Nazi, hate-criminal.

      2. Rhywun

        Remember when the Daily Beast wasn’t a cesspool of clickbaity derp?

        (Actually, I’m not sure if there ever was such a time but roll with me here.)

  28. The Late P Brooks

    em>”So, that was enough to convince this judge that at least temporarily — let’s take a time out. Let’s take these guns out and see what we’ve got here,” he said. “It isn’t a crime, he’s not being charged, he’s not in jail … it is a way to slow things down.”

    Thought crimes require special procedures.

    1. kbolino

      Nothing is going to calm things down like disarming people for vague and specious reasons.

    2. It really didn’t take long for these (already unconstitutional) laws to start being abused.

      1. kbolino

        “Abuse” was the purpose from day one, and everybody not wearing their “bipartisan compromise” glasses knew it.

    1. Fourscore

      Fool me twice… Damnit !

  29. KSuellington

    Speaking of succession, I think it is a super long shot, but I support the creation of the State of Jefferson. Of course, this succession would be from Caliunicornia, not the US. Every time I go up north or to the Sierras I see plenty of large signs, banners, and stickers supporting it. I think the only way it would stand a chance of happening would be if Puerto Rico became a state. There is something about 51 states that wouldn’t sit right with people, and of course the two Team Blue Senators would need balance with of the SoJ Team Red (or maybe libertarian, it is a liberty focused movement) in order to pass Congressional approval. I would love to have an option to move to that offers more liberty. I’m a native Californian, and don’t really want to leave this state because of all the fuckheads who moved here over the last several decades and seek to make it into commieville. I’d buy land there in a heartbeat if I thought succession was going to happen. It’s gorgeous up there.

    1. Mad Scientist

      Yes, it’s really beautiful up there. I’d move up there too if I thought they had a chance.

      1. KSuellington

        It’s economically fucked due to all the regulations and purposeful killing of livelihood there from the greenies that live in El Lay and Ess Eff. I think that would change for the better under self rule. I have a friend who moved to Nevada City this past year and is trying to convince me to move there. It’s tempting, but I don’t want to be a weed farmer, and I have three little kids to support.

        It’s really sad what has happened to this state in my lifetime. It was an absolute paradise and a beacon of opportunity at one point. You used to be able to build a house here, now the amount of fees, permits, taxes and bullshit make it prohibitively expensive.

    2. Gender Traitor

      After visiting the UP of MI a few weeks ago, I could get behind them becoming their own state, but I gather they’re too dependent on Lansing for that to happen any time soon. Too bad. They don’t deserve That State Up North (sez the Buckeye.)

      1. KSuellington

        Is there an independence movement up there? They’ve been trying to bring about the Jefferson since the 1940’s here, with the last decade or two ramping up the efforts. They have to get permission from the proggunists that run this place though, and I can’t see that happening. They are just fine with the status quo.

        https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-state-of-jefferson-activists-20180317-htmlstory.html

        1. Gender Traitor

          Per WikiP,

          Some support for statehood still exists in the region,[13] although no organized movement is currently active.[14]

          1. Gender Traitor

            Linky thing. I’d still prefer the name “Yoopertopia.”

          2. KSuellington

            Love the name.

        2. Rhywun

          diverse, liberal bastion

          *snort*

          1. Rhywun

            PS. nothing says “diverse” like being canceled by a mob of people of various hues.

          2. KSuellington

            Ha! Nothing says “liberal” like forcing you to stay when you want to go. I’d imagine that if put to a vote up there, it would stand a very good chance of passing (not that that would do much good).

    3. straffinrun

      As you mentioned, why would they give up being able to lord their power over people? Politicians are in it for power. Full stop. Any lens through which we view succession has to be viewed this way otherwise is it’s just delusion.

    4. The Last American Hero

      They need a port.

  30. Gustave Lytton

    The Last Ride (?)Write of Don

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Hmm… chopped of the Quixote for some reason. Close enough.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Swissxote, I mean.

  31. leon

    https://reason.com/2019/10/18/georgia-man-executed/

    Reminder that the government is too spiteful to be allowed to execute people.

  32. The Late P Brooks

    We’ll tax our way to prosperity

    Chicago is considering sticking ride-hailing services like Uber and Lyft with a new tax that would add a few bucks onto each ride. Mayor Lori Lightfoot has proposed a $40-million-per-year tax increase as part of a broader traffic plan modeled after London’s famous congestion fines. That means not all rides would be subject to the same fees, but each trip taken within the city would still cost a little extra.

    While congestion charges are all the rage in Europe, they’re uncommon in the United States. New York City recently decided to financially penalize every driver taking a trip below 60th Street (something I’m not thrilled about), positioning Chicago as the second major metropolitan area in the U.S. to move forward on congestion fees. Lightfoot claims it’s a necessary first step “to improve mobility and further our goals of ensuring sustainable, affordable and reliable access to transportation options in every neighborhood.”

    Currently, Chicago mandates a flat 72-cent fee per ride. According to Crain’s Chicago Business, the new congestion pricing would tack on a minimum of 53 cents a trip — with some trips downtown adding as much as $3.00. Some of the revenue would be diverted into the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) to establish priority bus zones on the South and West sides. Higher fees could also encourage residents to take public transit more often, especially for trips downtown.

    And you can spend the money on schools free daycare.

    1. Jarflax

      I seem to recall that congestion fees were pitched as a way to encourage ride sharing…

    2. Rhywun

      I don’t see that flying in any American city besides NYC which is I believe the only one where a majority don’t own a car.

  33. Fourscore

    Where’s Evan from Evansville?

    Festus, hope this finds you well on the recovery path. Hospitals aren’t always our best friend.