The Night Shift for October 26, 2019 Spook-tacular

Welcome, Ghouls and Ghosts!  It’s almost Halloween, and, considering we take this stuff into the witching hour (and beyond), I figured I play around a bit with that theme.  As you may recall, I mentioned that I will (would?) be attending a costume party tonight.  As a bona fide glibertarian, I typically eschew social outings like this, especially when most of the attendees are strangers.  However, to tell a family secret, I’ve been curating a Jedi/Sith/whatever get-up for a couple of years now.  And, since I’m no LARPer, this is probably the best place to introduce the world to my lame-ass attempt at make-believe.  With that, I’m now going to attempt to refocus your attention on some-WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!? (made you look!)

 

A fitting start to tonight’s festivities.

My usual even starts with a rather appropriate tale.

The horror….The horror…  Serious, if you are prone to sympathy pains, you may want to skip this.  Then again, if you have been here for any length of time, this is simply the visual representation of many a link on this site.

I used to wonder why we didn’t have (more of) a UK glib presence here.  I now think most of our “type” are probably in jail.

So, in the interest of not bogging anyone down with too-long videos, check out this rather fascinating collector of internet oddities.  YMMV with the various videos, but, I typically enjoy his postings.  Hint:  try the video for “Channel 58”.  It’s about 30 minutes, but kinda creepy-fun.

Thanks, Metroplex!  Trying to keep in mind that 11 people (out of 12) said this was the correct way to proceed.  I tend to believe the saying that juries are made up of people too stupid to get out of jury duty.  And, Dallas County is chocked full of people fitting that bill.  And, thanks to them, this child is gonna be wearing a permanent costume.  Trick or treat, kid.

Any of you have Halloween stories you want to share with the rest of us?  If it helps, I can get a campfire going.  The only stories I can recall are the year I stayed home to protect our dog.  Now, this was the mid 80’s, and there was lots of talk going around about the possibility of cults kidnapping pets for animal sacrifices.  The only really shocking thing about it was that my mom was OK with me missing church to stay home with my dad’s 12 gauge to protect said dog.  Nothing happened.  Also, I may, or, may not, have pulled a Trudeau at some point in my teens.  That’s right; Diggy may have almost bankrupted the Great White North, while smothering it with wokeism.  Or, maybe Diggy didn’t

“Cara Mia!!”  The three-legged stool (eww) of Horror, Romance, and Humor is difficult to build.  That said, this is a fun attempt at the concept.  Look—it was either that, or, this attempt, and you lot always gripe about “Too early!!1!eleven”

Halloween news you can use?  Yes.  Yes, it is.

Go on–Just embrace it.  ?

I think that wraps up the month rather well…alright—mediocrely.   It’ll be November soon, so I guess I have to dig up tales of turkeys, family feuds, and colonial oppression.  See ya soon, Pilgrim.

Comments

243 responses to “The Night Shift for October 26, 2019 Spook-tacular”

  1. Sir Digby

    My apologies, folks, but I’m still dealinng with this abdominal pain, and am going to have to lurk, for the most part. still have to stay up all night, though.

    Enjoy.

    Also, what ‘s the deal with the avatars still being out?

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Dammit! Not another Glib medical problem. Stop getting sick or injured!

      1. Sir Digby

        Hell, I wish–new territory for me.

        1. Chafed

          Feel better SD. It sounds like this stomach pain is persistent. Unless C. Anacreon shows up to diagnose you, you may want to see a doctor in meat space.

          1. J. Frank Parnell

            I believe C. Anacreon is scheduled to be huddled around a candle in a dark room right about now.

          2. blackjack
    2. Chafed

      I’ve been able to see avatars all day. I’m in an Android phone FWIW.

      1. Cacciatore

        I can see them on my droid, not my laptop with Windows 7.

        1. Sir Digby

          yep, not on chromebook. Been happening since at least Thursday.

          1. westernsloper

            I know fuckall about computers but I do know chromebook is the whitepeople of operating systems.

          2. Hyperion

            I have a degree in Computer Science and I don’t know that a Chromebook is. Is there a reason why I should care? Is it like the hipster juice of computing?

          3. Rhywun

            I think it’s a Google ad service with a tablet attached. Or something.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Lol

          5. westernsloper

            A friend of mine bought one. It is a Google creation from hell.

          6. Fatty Bolger

            It’s just a cheap laptop with a Chrome-centric distribution of Linux on it (Chrome OS).

          7. Sir Digby

            Had mine a few months, and it’s pretty good so far, even if it is google shit. Better than a tablet, and cheaper than a laptop. If need be I can work on posts at home, which was difficult with a tablet/ipad.

          8. dorvinion

            Its a laptop that is suitable for 90% or more of the average non-business computer users.

            Its cheap, secure, easy to learn, and is well suited for those who are unqualified to safely use Windows.

            Its perfect for people like my wife and mom because the only thing they do on a computer is use a web browser.

            If all you do is browsing or watching streaming video, a $200-300 chromebook destroys similarly priced windows laptops.

            I don’t use it as my primary computer at home, but on the road its handy to do browser stuff that’s a pain to do on a phone.

          9. blackjack

            I used to buy cheap laptops and then break the hinges and power plugs. This time I bought a nice convertible with backlit keys and a touch screen with a ssd drive. I love this thing, but the power plug is getting sloppy. Boots instantaneously and scrolling on the screen is like voodoo magic. Still, can’t see avatars on it, just my phone.

          10. Hyperion

            I hate all of those little tablet/notebook type PCs. You have to have tiny like Asian little girl like hands to type on them. No, just fuck no.

          11. Sir Digby

            I’m 6’5″, and about 240, 250…no little girl hands here. Granted, it could use a different config/less space assigned for touch pad.

        2. J. Frank Parnell

          I can see them on Chrome on my iPhone but not on Chrome on my Mac.

          1. Sir Digby

            No browser works for me, unless I go mobile.

    3. Spudalicious

      Take care of yourself. I’ve had no avatar problems.

  2. leon

    @Don Escaped Texas (if you’re still around).

    Oregon is struggling against Washington State, so we’ll see where this falls out.

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      I had Oregon as overrated early on but had recently decided I was probably wrong. They’ve been getting better, and regression said they should win by 17.

      NewWife’s parents met at Pullman.
      She was born in Eugene.
      My son’s fellow O line buddy is on Leach’s staff: the one wearing a white cap backwards.

      We’re watching in bed.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Like your former MIL & Dallas, unless NewWife is 20 years old, she probably wouldn’t recognize her birth town either.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Also born in Eugene, with a Dallas connection

          (description is wrong, that’s not Kristen Bell)

        2. Don Escaped Texas

          Well I’ve never been to Spain or Eugene.

          will never change. The state did move the Crossroads, though: wonder if that scared Old Scratch away?

  3. Don Escaped Texas

    Thanks, MetroPlex!

    I had a MIL in Coppell in the 80s; she wouldn’t recognize anything about the place and is better off dead.

  4. Gender Traitor

    Soooo….. that “untitled design” link you posted above may or may not be you? If it’s not you, is it just a blurry still from the movie Soul Man?

    So sorry you’re not feeling well, Diggy! Please have your pain checked out by a medical perfessional-type person if it doesn’t go away!

    1. Sir Digby

      Thank you. Should have ultrasound and blood work result on Monday. Pain appears to be over gall bladder.

      bland diet is almost as bad as the pain.

      1. Gender Traitor

        Hope you find something to reduce the pain ASAP, and please keep us posted!

        Also, the astute among us note that you didn’t answer either of my questions. I merely point that out to enter it into the official record.

        1. Sir Digby

          No, that’s good ol’ JT, hisself. Mine might or might not have been more handsome.

          1. Gender Traitor

            Bummer. I may or may not do a one-day-only reveal of my real face here on Halloween. Won’t be nearly as much fun if the avatars are invisible to so many. (I’m still phone=yes, laptop=n.)

          2. Sir Digby

            I would have provided a pic/pics in costume, had I gone to the Halloween party.

          3. Gender Traitor

            Our great loss! : (

  5. Cacciatore

    *zoidberg woop*

  6. Chafed

    I’m not happy with the music link. If you want Halloween themed music you can dance to then here you go:

    https://youtu.be/EqQuihD0hoI

    1. Cacciatore

      IF BY DANCE, MEAN RAPE…

    2. Sir Digby

      My fave RZ song.

      1. Chafed

        ^^^Even sick, this guy gets it. ^^^

      1. Chafed

        ?

    3. BakedPenguin

      Nice, that queued up a Monster Magnet song (for me) next.

      1. egould310

        One time at a Monster Magnet concert at the Whiskey on Sunset, back in ‘93, I was high as fuck on crystal meth and stoned out of my mind on weed and the band was playing Spine of God and then I was floating above the crowd and I looked down and I could see myself and I was like, “Fuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkkk…..”

    4. straffinrun

      Nothing wrong with Dead Man’s Party. I’ll let it slide as long as you don’t go after Peter Murphy.

  7. Gustave Lytton

    The smug little prick photo at the bottom of the UK story says it all.

  8. Gender Traitor

    If I may say this without arousing a scandal – Though I like boyz, Carolyn Jones is hawt. Best. Morticia. Evah! – Accept no substitutes!

    1. MikeS

      Hawt, you say? I suppose.

      1. Gender Traitor

        Noice! I had no idea…

        Jones’s Morticia & Astin’s Gomez are one of the sexiest TV couples ever.

        1. MikeS

          I agree. Cara mia!

          1. Gender Traitor

            That’s true love! <3

          2. dbleagle

            I thought Raul and Angelica did it well as well.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJSWw5ovLzw

        2. Chafed

          So true.

    2. MikeS

      You sent me down a beautiful rabbit hole. (no euphemism)

      1. Gender Traitor

        Is that still her??

        1. MikeS

          According to DuckDuckGo, yes. This too.

        2. MikeS

          Oops. Meant to link this

          1. Gender Traitor

            Ooh! Those eyes! And freckles!

          2. Sir Digby

            Best. Morticia. Evah!

            She hasn’t had any real competition, really. Anjelica Huston is a great actress, but she’s no looker.

            If there’s another contestant, she can’t be all that great.

          3. Gender Traitor

            Apparently there’s an animated one now, but I haven’t been paying close attention. How could you improve on perfection??

      2. MikeS

        Some fun music (and video) for our girl Carolyn.

        1. MikeS

          Ugh. My link-fu is terrible. I’m going to bed.

          1. Gender Traitor

            There it is! Bust a move, Wednesday!

            Thanks, Mike! Nighty night!

        2. Gender Traitor

          ??? A link above? Or did you forget the link you intended?

  9. Chafed

    I’m not convinced we are getting the whole story about the 7 year old supposedly transgender kid. I’ve done lots of jury trials. They mostly get it right. They voted 11-1 against the dad. There has to something they learned about him that isn’t reported in the story.

    Having said that, no fucking way a 7 year old should be transitioned.

    1. Rhywun

      Well, a witness who claimed that the kid was a “normal boy” outside the presence of his mom was excluded.

      TBH, the more I read, the more fucked up the whole thing is. Nasty divorce, dad seems to have a tenuous relationship with the truth himself, doctor mom seems to be nuts, etc. etc. It just goes on.

      1. Chafed

        That’s just it. It goes on and on. I’d love for all this stuff, including the excluded witness, to be reported. This story is fucked up. There are no good guys in it it seems.

    2. Chafed

      I worked out hard (not a euphemism) tonight at the gym. I’m now enjoying a Samuel Smith’s Chocolate Stout. You people are a bad influence. I particularly blame Nephilium and MS. Before I came here I had a very limited beer palate. I hadn’t even heard of Samuel Smith. Thank you all for corrupting me.

      1. Chafed

        Brooksed it.

    3. blackjack

      Man, the jury I served on was ready to convict a guy on child molest for giving titty twisters during a basketball game. Me and one other chick ( a civil atty) were the only holdouts, and I think she may have caved without having company and support. Juries are fucking scary as fuck. That’s all.

      1. J. Frank Parnell

        So my dad is an attorney and used to work for the county in the mental health department. Basically, when someone gets involuntarily committed, they have a regularly scheduled hearing to try to get out, and he would go in and argue the government’s case, which was usually that the person was crazy and should still be locked up.

        Anyways, he said the person who had been committed had the option of a hearing before a judge or before a jury, and usually they would opt for the jury. He said this was a huge mistake, because jurors would get freaked out by relatively minor crazy shit, whereas the judges who listened to crazy shit all day were pretty jaded and would usually let them out as long as they pinkie swore to keep taking their meds.

  10. Hyperion

    Just folder time from York County, PA. Wonderful place compared to Balmer.

    Best thing was coming back, it’s downhill all the way, seriously, we coasted all the way back for about 40 miles and I don’t even remember putting my foot on the gas pedal, a few times on the breaks. I told wifey that if we buy a house there, I can just get a sled if it’s snowing and coast all the way to Balmer, if it has brakes. Otherwise I’ll be breaking the sound barrier by the time I hit the state line.

    In other news.

    Math is bad!

    OFFS.

    1. Hyperion

      “Just folder”

      Just folded. Where are you, ol edit fairy?

    2. Rhywun

      Where the heck do normal people find the time to deprogram their kids from this crap they’re learning in school…?

      1. Hyperion

        They’re going to have to pull their heads out of their own asses and get off their cell phones and pay more attention to their kids than they do the next episode of Dancing with Stars, or they’ll probably still be OK, but their kids will have a fucked up future.

      2. Don Escaped Texas

        The school’s not an issue if parents confidently model the best explanations for how the world works.

        You might infer above that my kid grew up with a grandmother in that New Trannytown; he played them in football for years and it never rubbed off on him.

        I suspect households with unsatisfying myths train a kid that things don’t need to square out. My kid learned to do his homework and pay in cash: he’s 25 and still on the program.

        1. I suspect households with unsatisfying myths train a kid that things don’t need to square out.

          ?? Yeah, Jesus is what causes kids to buy into the pomo bullshit in schools these days.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      If math is too daunting for students, a better option would be for schools to stop making it mandatory.

      SLD, but fuck no. The 3 R’s are what schools should be teaching and expecting everyone to learn the basics, rather than throwing up hands and saying “math is hard”, is what they should be doing.

      few people actually need to understand higher mathematics to function in society

      Or how to change a tire. But seriously, you don’t have to learn higher math to graduate HS. You are supposed to be able to add/subtract/multiple/divide, use fractions, percentages, and other basics. Stuff you actually use on a regular basis. And which eludes far too many graduates along with basic literacy.

      1. Hyperion

        Naw, seriously, you racist, wouldn’t you just love to drive on a bridge or fly in an aircraft designed by people who have no concept of math, because it’s racist?

      2. Derpetologist

        here ya go

        Professor says grading, good grammar are examples of white supremacy
        https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-says-grading-good-grammar-are-examples-of-white-supremacy/

        ***
        “Your school can be racist and produce racist outcomes,” Inoue said. “Even with expressed values and commitments to anti-racism and social justice.”

        In one of his slides, Inoue states that “grading is a great way to protect the white property of literacy in schools and maintain the white supremacist status quo without ever being white supremacist or mentioning race.”
        ***

        1. Chafed

          He must be a big fan of the Tower of Babel.

      3. J. Frank Parnell

        few people actually need to understand higher mathematics to function in society

        Yeah, why would people need to be able to figure out stupid shit like how much money loans and credit card interest will actually cost you, or how much money one investment might make over another, or how much money you’ll need to save at a particular interest rate to have a certain amount of money in the future.

        I mean, the government’s just going to pay of everyone’s loans one day and take care of all your financial needs, sho why bother?

      4. egould310

        The 3 R’s

        Reading

        Riting

        Route 3 to New Castle

    4. Chafed

      Commence the endumbening.

  11. Gustave Lytton

    Oh Jesus. Saw a trailer for Apple TV’s new service For All Mankind. Soviets land on the moon first, so the US is going to go to Mars…with female astronauts! In the 60’s…. yeah that’s believable.

    1. Fatty Bolger

      Does communism work in this alternate universe?

      1. Hyperion

        NO

        1. BakedPenguin

          C’mon Hype, all it will take to get communism to work is a post-scarcity society, along with a short enough time frame to define “success”.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            I’d be willing to believe the Soviet landing was filmed on a sound stage or they landed a corpse on the moon, before they did an Apollo 11.

          2. Akira

            C’mon Hype, all it will take to get communism to work is a post-scarcity society

            It always cracked me up that Star Trek tried to be a parable about capitalism being outdated, but they live in a universe with matter replicators.

            When those are invented, get back to me and maybe we’ll talk about non-capitalist economic systems. Until then, zip it.

    2. blackjack

      Can we buy dope with Libra’s?

          1. Don Escaped Texas
      1. Hyperion

        Well, she’s really nice, she probably could use about 20 lbs in the right places, I mean her ass, but she’s gorgeous.

        1. Chafed

          She looks good to me just the way she is.

    1. Chafed

      Well hello there.

  12. KSuellington

    I’m watching “Y Tu Mama Tambien”. What a great film. I saw it in Brazil with Portuguese subtitles almost twenty years ago when it came out. I love road trip movies and I think this one was very well done.

    1. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

      Wow…that’s been out for 20 years? //feeling old

      I recommend the Korean film Parasite. Should be out at various art-house places and can be found on-line.

      1. KSuellington

        I’ll put it on the watch list, thanks. Yes, 2001 is now getting close to about 20 years ago. I know, hard to believe.

        1. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

          Did you lose power in SF area? I skipped town (live in Oakland) for work this weekend. SF GATE showing lots of outages around there. What a mess…

          1. KSuellington

            I think the outages are in the surrounding areas. There really doesn’t seem to be very much wind, but this state will fuck it up if at all possible.

  13. straffinrun

    Babylon Bee confuses the Sovereign Citizen with Libertarianism. Fake news!

    https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1188228815991869440

    1. Sir Digby

      ::checks Snopes::

      Yes, that;s correct.

      1. straffinrun

        Give BB credit for getting the beard right. Ungroomed and growing way too high on the cheeks.

    2. Don Escaped Texas

      his favorite Sunday Gadsden flag T-shirt

      I don’t even have one * kicks dirt *

      1. dbleagle

        Got the flag and the tee.

          1. Derpetologist
          2. Plinker762

            That one seems appropriate for this site.

    3. westernsloper

      He bellowed the phrase at the top of his lungs to each of the fourteen people who happily greeted him and grabbed his hand during the mandatory time of saying hello,

      It’s worse than that. No libertarian would attend something where mandatory anything was going on.

  14. westernsloper

    I decided to move my wood stove and point it at my preferred chain smoking and drinking spot in the shop. To do this I needed a few 45’s and a few other chunks of stove pipe. I had to screw the pipe together as I went along to keep it from falling. I am not a big fan of international dictations/orders/rules, but there should be an International agreement that no nutdriver will ever be manufactured that is not magnetic. My set is a Makita set with an awesome drill and driver but I was ready to bomb Hiroshima again after fumbling and dropping 20 screws because the *&^%$ bit was not magnetic. Granted I had a few beers in me, but still I blame the japs.

    1. straffinrun

      What’s wrong with you? You can drink and smoke anywhere. It’s your shop, no?

      1. westernsloper

        Yes I can, but this spot gives me full view of all the projects not completed because I spend all my time drinking and smoking so it is the superior spot.

        1. blackjack

          +1 my other car is ten motorcycles that don’t run!

  15. my lame-ass attempt at make-believe

    So XX TD tells me there are “furries” wandering around her high school. She doesn’t know if they’re cosplaying or if it’s a bona fide sexual fetish. She doesn’t much care about that. She just wishes they’d bathe. Apparently, “wolves” do not feel a need for hygienic butt plugs.

    I’ll see your Dead Man’s Party and raise you a Dead Man’s Ballet.

    I will return in a bit to do an omnibus post a la Suthen. Is that what we’re calling those now? Suthen’d?

    1. Sir Digby

      Apparently, “wolves” do not feel a need for hygienic butt plugs.

      The greatest line written this decade.

      1. Hyperion

        “The greatest line written this decade.”

        Don’t encourage her, she’s already ruined our family friendly status, and trust me, she’s going to ruin a lot more once you give her the chance, because she’s the new worst and everyone knows it.

        1. Sir Digby

          All things considered, I feel like taking a risk.

        2. Gender Traitor

          she’s the new worst

          Maybe so, but she’s the best worst!

          1. MikeS

            This is true.

        3. Derpetologist

          “The greatest line written this decade.”

          Wrong, sir. Wrong.

          The greatest line ever written: Naked Came the Manatee

          1. Sir Digby

            Not enough dirty butt-plugs. Or, clean ones, for that matter.

        4. she’s already ruined our family friendly status

          I have not.

          Yet.

          1. Gender Traitor

            ::claps hands in gleeful anticipation::

          2. I’m working on making consent hot.

      2. Best line I ever wrote:

        “Never underestimate the commercial value of mental illness.”

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          Best line I ever wrote:

          “Southern Comfort is neither.”

        2. westernsloper

          The best line I ever wrote:

          “The fire was perfect and the flames licked the steak like her lover between her thighs.”

          That is from my upcoming book, Food Pron and Prawns.

    2. MikeS

      Oooh! I really like that album. Front to back. I think this is my favorite.

      1. You have just found out I am the world’s biggest Sixx:A.M. fangirl?!?!?!

        1. MikeS

          Well, I knew you liked the Crue, but I guess I didn’t realize Nikki was the reason.

          1. I actually like Sixx:A.M. better than Motley, but mostly because of teenage memories and sometimes I really don’t want those dragged out, yanno?

            The only Crue songs I can really actually stand without wincing and cringing in embarrassment over certain incidents are “Home Sweet Home” and “Dr. Feelgood.”

          2. straffinrun

            Strip bars have ruined Motley Crue for me. Pavlovian response leaves my jeans all filthy.

      2. straffinrun

        Front to back and you don’t have to worry about dirtying up your buttplug.

        1. blackjack

          Not to the top?

          1. straffinrun

            Motley Crue is like wiping side to side.

    3. Akira

      So XX TD tells me there are “furries” wandering around her high school. She doesn’t know if they’re cosplaying or if it’s a bona fide sexual fetish. She doesn’t much care about that. She just wishes they’d bathe. Apparently, “wolves” do not feel a need for hygienic butt plugs.

      The furry weirdo people tend to smell pretty rank. And I never had any attraction whatsoever to gothic/punk chicks because almost every member of that clique back in high school used to have this horrid stench every day – some combination of BO and cigarette smoke with a layer of Febreze in a vain attempt to cover it up.

    1. BakedPenguin

      Did you take it off mute? Or is what you’re saying that Joe is full of BS?

  16. Lachowsky

    Open question…

    Justify an American war post 1776. I’m curious.

    1. straffinrun

      Can I do it from an arms dealer’s perspective?

    2. Don Escaped Texas

      without Pearl Harbor, this never happens

      1. Lachowsky

        Without America restricting oil sales to Japan in 1940, there is no pearl harbor.

        That would have been better for the half a million Americans who died in ww2.

    3. Fatty Bolger

      Pearl Harbor

    4. Derpetologist

      The 50 or so Indian Wars- especially the one where this happened:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Clair%27s_defeat

      ***
      St. Clair’s defeat also known as the Battle of the Wabash, the Battle of Wabash River or the Battle of a Thousand Slain,[1] was a battle fought on November 4, 1791 in the Northwest Territory of the United States of America. The U.S. Army faced the Western Confederacy of Native Americans, as part of the Northwest Indian War. It was “the most decisive defeat in the history of the American military,”[2] and the largest victory ever won by Native Americans.[3]

      The natives were led by Little Turtle of the Miamis, Blue Jacket of the Shawnees and Buckongahelas of the Delawares (Lenape). The war party numbered more than one thousand warriors, including a large number of Potawatomis from eastern Michigan and the Saint Joseph. The opposing force of about 1,000 Americans was led by General Arthur St. Clair. The forces of the American Indian confederacy attacked at dawn, taking St. Clair’s men by surprise. Of the 1,000 officers and men that St. Clair led into battle, only 24 escaped unharmed. As a result, President George Washington forced St. Clair to resign his post and Congress initiated its first investigation of the executive branch.[4]
      ***

      1. dbleagle

        I beg to differ. The Pueblo Revolt was by far the greatest victory by native American tribes. It was in in 1680 and forced the Spaniards to retreat to what is Mexico for 12 years. It was the only successful revolt in either of the America’s. The leader of the revolt, Pope, is one of the two statues from NM in the Statuary Hall in the US Capitol.

        David Roberts wrote a good general history of the revolt and aftermath. He visits the old pueblos and battlefields.
        “Pueblo Revolt” by David Roberts is available from multiple online sites.

      2. Lachowsky

        Morally speaking, all the Indian wars are profoundly unjustified.

        1. dbleagle

          The IW are morally unjustified by the standards we aspire to- but only in part. They are a mess because the tribes were culpable in may cases. Not every tribe or every instance but enough that many tribes were in no case innocent victims. The US was also culpable as well in many cases.

          Chief Washakie of the Shoshone saw the coming of the whites and made and kept a treaty that was largely honored by both sides. Because of this the Shoshone still reside on their traditional lands. Same with the Hopi, Zuni, Papago and Pima. The Pima and Papago tribes enthusiastically supported the US military against the Apaches. Why? They were tired of being walloped by the Apaches and saw the whites as a way to protect their homelands.

          The majority of Apaches didn’t support Geronimo and Apache Scouts served with honor in the US military against him. (Nine Apache Scouts received the MoH during the Apache Wars.) The tribes held great respect for General Crook because he fought them hard, and was their advocate against disreputable Indian agents and for the USG to uphold the treaties.

          Probably the greatest tragedy for the Indian Wars was their inevitability.

    5. Chafed

      The Civil War because chattel slavery was inherently evil. WW II because we were attacked.

      1. dbleagle

        I’ll second Chafed on the CW and WWII. I’ll even support the first 12 months of the Afghanistan War because we were attacked. The “nation building” shit show since? Nope.

        1. Lachowsky

          I dont recall any Afghanistan citizens being involved in the 9/11 attacks…

          1. dbleagle

            Their government provided the attackers safe haven.

          2. Lachowsky

            That doesn’t justify ( to me) an invasion of their country.

            Not by a long shot.

          3. dbleagle

            That is part of the dilemma when deciding when to use force. There is no modern war where you can say “Yup, they all hate us.” Even in WWII there were large numbers of German, Italian and Japanese who weren’t supportive of their governments. But you have no way to separate them out, so they get lumped in when the others.

            But there is a reason why I put the limit on supporting the Afghan War. The Taliban Government did support Al Qaeda within their territory. The lives of the Afghan people were improved by removing the Taliban and AQ, with very few casualties among non-combatants. As we stuck around the nature of the conflict drew the civilians back in to take sides. A punitive expedition and the quick emergence of an Afghan Gov followed by our departure would have saved lives, maybe.

          4. Tejicano

            My ex’s dad was conscripted into the Japanese Imperial Navy at 14 in early 1945. Treatment was brutal and he didn’t have much respect for the PTB because of that. He told me a story about how, after his initial training, they passed out cigarettes – he started to smoke his but when he saw the Imperial crest on it he dropped it into the dirt and stubbed it out.

    6. westernsloper

      Barbary Wars not but a few decades after 1776 came to mind. But then again should the merchants formed their own forces to deal with the assholes?

      1. Fun (utterly useless) fact: Morocco was the first nation to recognize the US as a sovereign nation. The Barbary pirates kept the English busy and left US ships alone. Until…

        We won.

        Then we were fair game.

      2. Lachowsky

        You may have a point, I dont knkw shit about the barbary wars.

  17. blackjack

    I’ve always liked this song, but hate the whiny bitches that do it. This proves me right.

  18. PieInTheSky

    Stupid hour change. I was hoping i could sleep more this morning to cover the clocks turning back and wake up at same hour but no luck. Good morning.

    1. Gender Traitor

      ‘Mornin’, Pie! The U.S. still has Daylight Savings Time for another week. I imagine I’ll spend my extra hour here.

      1. blackjack

        Yeah, I can’t seem to sleep at night right now, I hope I don’t start craving blood.

  19. Gender Traitor

    As much as I’d love to stick around, I’d best get to bed. Was gonna tough it out ’til the end of the Wash. St./Oregon game, but I don’t think I care enough about the outcome.

    Thanks, Diggy, and please get all bettersoonerquicker!

    Nighty night, all!

    1. Sir Digby

      ‘Night, and, thanks.

    2. Night! Have good sleeps!

  20. Also, I like James Michael’s voice better than I like Vince Neil’s.

  21. Whoa. Now *I* can’t see avatars. I see GT’s, and she’s not Jessica Rabbit anymore.

    1. BakedPenguin

      Gooboo gabba, one of us, one of us.

    2. Sir Digby

      Yes–or, at least, some of them.

    3. For some odd reason, your avatar is now showing up, along with Digby’s and GT’s. But not everybody else’s. Did you all change your avatar in the past two or three days and then change it back?

      1. Sir Digby

        I signed into that site that SP mentioned, and loaded in the pic. Took a couple of minutes to take, but….voila!

  22. Sir Digby

    Some follow-up on the Dallas boy girl kid: https://www.theblaze.com/news/father-who-fought-to-protect-son-from-forced-gender-transition-is-under-clearly-unconstitutional-order

    If I were the kid, I would probably relish that gag order.

  23. egould310

    Just started “Karpenter” on Amazon Prime. Decapitation 30 seconds into the film. This is gonna suck. Shitty horror films rule my world.

    Also watching videos of David Bowie now.

  24. blackjack

    Avatars just came back, but their strange majong tile looking thing. Wierd.

    1. blackjack

      And they’re gone again.

  25. I just changed computers. Where before the avatars were just the gray placeholders, now I have none at all. Except GT’s.

  26. Re: avatars. Apparently the plug-in we have been using is not compatible with this week’s update of WordPress, and doesn’t look like it will be anytime soon. Some browsers still served the cached user images, some didn’t.

    I’ve installed a new plug-in, but it means if you aren’t using Gravatar, you’ll need to upload a new avatar in your user profile on the dashboard when you login.

    This is what happens when you use free plug-ins. *sigh* Sorry for the inconvenience.

    1. Hi, SP! I know you’ve been busy and I am grateful for everything you do for us.

      One question: Is there somebody waiting to be approved to join us? Maybe username “neovictorian”?

      1. Nope. We have no pending requests.

          1. If you know someone submitted one, have them try again. It’s possible in all the updates the last couple weeks, stuff got fubar’ed with forms etc. There were several WP updates, theme updates, plug-in updates and on and on….

          2. (Or just have them email me directly: website@ this domain.)

    2. J. Frank Parnell

      Woah. I just refreshed and my avatar is not the avatar I use on this site, but an old avatar that I used on another WordPress site that no longer exists.

      Also I can see SP and Gender Traitor’s avatars (and my own), but nobody else’s.

      1. So, this one of yours must have been in Gravatar. That’s what WordPress uses as a default if you don’t have a site-specific avatar uploaded. I’m guessing GT’s was a Gravatar as well.

        I uploaded mine again locally tonight after installing the new plug-in.

        1. egould310

          Thanks for all your website wizardry.

      2. I believe they’re using Gravatar, which you might be also.

        I am not.

    3. westernsloper

      No problemo SP. Thanks for keeping this lot of degenerates connected. I was tired of my avatar anyways.

    4. KSuellington

      SP, thank you for the voodoo that you do. A mi me gusta mucho. Gracias.

  27. hayeksplosives

    Dammit, wtf happened to my post?? Yes

    1. Sir Digby

      Yes!!

      1. Chafed

        *salutes* Yes ma’am!

        1. Sir Digby

          saaa-LUTE!

  28. hayeksplosives

    Ok,starting over.

    Sir Diggs, the links are outstanding.
    I especially enjoyed the Addams Family ones! ?

    1. Sir Digby

      Thank you! And, much welcome ?‍♂️

    2. hayeksplosives

      And that cover pic is gorgeous! Where was it taken??

      1. Sir Digby

        I think it’s south Australia… Will have to look it up at work, unfortunately.

    1. Sir Digby

      Their skin color and/or ethnicity don’t matter–just the skin color/ethnicity of the victims.

    2. Sir Digby

      Her husband is whit–imagine life for him, or, around him.

      1. Sir Digby

        He’s even *white*

    3. dbleagle

      That is some high grade derp right there. Next the NYT will tell us that Martin Luther King was actually a white supremist because he was a gun owner and a member of the Republican Party.

    4. Tejicano

      Almost surprising that nobody has pointed out these dudes are Aryans.

      1. Sir Digby

        I…….yeah!

  29. BakedPenguin

    I thought I’d updated my Gravatar… apparently not.

    1. KSuellington

      I kind of dig the no avatar look interspersed with yes avatar. Listening to Gentleman LP by Fela Kuti and drinking too many beers.

  30. OK, kids, I’m outta here.

    Have fun–but not too much–without me!

  31. hayeksplosives

    So I have a story from today to make you all feel like graceful butterflies compared to me.

    I was at Big Bear Lake (California) to help my spouse perform at Oktoberfest. At one point I got up and walked along the straw laden grounds, which camouflaged tree roots and rocks. Thus I totally tripped on a sneaky tree root and, my hands being full, totally faceplanted.

    The only part of me that was hurt was my upper lip, just a small cut on the outside and a little damage inside. But the blood was disproportionately flowing so everyone thought I was seriously injured!

    Went to first aid, got cleaned up, and then my upper lip started to swell. At first it was tee hee z list lip filler work, but it got worse and worse. I am in full up duck billed platypus mode now.

    1. Sir Digby

      ? ?⚕️

      1. hayeksplosives

        Thanks. ( I think??).

        I look effing ridiculous and can’t even speak intelligibly.

        Had to get a straw for my wine at dinner!!

        1. Sir Digby

          sad face + duck (no platypus) + medical

          That equals “ouch”

          Straw wine is still wine.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Nostrovya!

          2. Sir Digby

            ?

          3. Sir Digby

            If you’re keen, you’ll have to have one for me–this bland diet includes no alcohol (which may get my glibs card pulled).

          4. hayeksplosives

            At the very German oriented Oktoberfest, I was wearing my Russian Orthodox cross. A German American gave me guff about it, and I peered over my glasses and said, “Hey have you heard of the Battle of Stalingrad? Remember who won that?”

            He stood stick still for a minute, tipped his hat, and walked off

          5. Sir Digby

            He stood stick still for a minute

            I know how he feels

  32. Count Potato

    I can’t sleep. Which is nothing new. But I left this thing on. Avatars are now missing. Except Mojo, GT & SP. I can still see theirs.

    1. Sir Digby

      ::ahem::

      No, Sp gave a rundown on the issue upthread. Basically…”computers” & “internet”

      1. Count Potato

        No, what?

        1. Sir Digby

          No, don’t take the ahem seriously. If you were. Which, I’m not accusing you of doing. Just saying, is all.

  33. Count Potato

    I can’t see hayekplosives’ though, so it’s not based on gender, apparently.

  34. Count Potato

    “Acc to well placed military sources, a high value ISIS target believed to be Abu Bakr al Baghdadi was killed by US led forces in Idlib, Syria. US military cannot yet confirm identity of deceased target. DNA tests underway. POTUS expected to make an announcement Sunday morning.”

    https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1188295339465461761

    1. Count Potato

      “BREAKING: Trump approves Special Ops raid targeting ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and military says he’s dead

      Reminder: Democrat Rep. Ilhan Omar (MN) has advocated for leniency in sentencing to a federal judge for convicted ISIS recruits”

      https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1188290556100632577

      1. straffinrun

        Call me morbid, call me pale. I’ve six full years on your tail.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz0UADjaHKo&list=RD3GhoWZ5qTwI&index=14

  35. Gustave Lytton

    I have no avatar and I must scream.

    1. Sir Digby

      But, not screen?

  36. Count Potato

    “Teen feminist who made signs at school warning about a known rapist did it as a stunt to bring awareness to sexual assault. School suspended her for prank (students blamed innocent boy for being the ‘rapist’) but was sued by ACLU. Judge has sided w/teen.”

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1187776871875907584

    “Maine student wins court battle over ‘rapist in school’ note

    A US judge has blocked the suspension of a high school girl who was punished for posting a note at school warning of a “rapist” in their midst.

    In September Aela Mansmann, 15, was accused of bullying by school officials in Cape Elizabeth, Maine, after she posted notes in the girls’ toilets.

    But on Thursday a judge issued a temporary stay on the suspension citing concerns over free-speech rights.

    A lawsuit filed by the girl’s family against the school is still pending…..”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50171701

    1. hayeksplosives

      Not enough info to know who’s in the wrong.

      But I think it’s the judge.

      1. Sir Digby

        You can choose to hate everyone. Let the hate flow through you…

  37. straffinrun

    Fun match up for the finals of the RWC. Was kinda hoping Wales would get through.

  38. Pi Guy

    Avatar test

    1. Pi Guy

      Rat farts

      1. Tres Cool

        double turds!