Can of Whoop@$$

My oldest son asked to try his hand at baseball about a month or so ago. He’s a bit awkward with a lot of the fundamentals but he’s new at it.  I was never great at it either, so I was surprised when the coach asked me to assist.  The other day one of the other players asked me a question:  ”What does your shirt say?”

”It says, This shirt is made from four plastic bottles.”  It was a souvenir I bought at Coca-Cola World in Atlanta in the 50% off bin that I thought was a fun conversation piece.  The polyethylene (PET) that made up the Coke bottles was simply repurposed for polyester.  It was and is in essence, a regular t-shirt.

This is my review of Dark Horse Pinot Grigio.

Recycling has been in the news recently.  The bottom line up front is that nobody is willing to purchase garbage anymore.  When local municipalities offer recycling services, like my hometown of Phoenix, they simply have the homeowner separate “recyclables” from bulk trash as a first step.  Then a contractor sorts it further and “disposes” of it.  What they were actually doing of course, was turning garbage into gold:

Recycling is the globe’s bizarro commodity, created by the richest people on Earth and sold to the developing world. Like all commodities, its price reflects a staggering string of interconnected happenings. Your 2011-era empty Coke bottle wasn’t just worth a lot because of high oil prices—it was worth a lot because Pakistan had suffered devastating monsoons in the summer of 2010. Flooding in the Indus River was one of a cascading series of events that sent cotton, in April 2011, to its highest nominal price since records began in 1870. Jeans were going to be more expensive, Levi’s announced. And so, it turned out, was recycled PET plastic, because for Chinese manufacturers of articles like teddy bears and blue jeans, polyester fibers made from old plastic bottles were a cost-effective replacement for cotton. Cotton was up; plastic was up; recycled PET prices went up. As when cotton hit its previous high price in 1995, the scramble was on for old bottles. Which you, American reader, the world’s leading consumer of soda and bottled water, had in spades.

That is until 2017, when China announced it is no longer purchasing the world’s trash.  So where have all the empty bottles gone?

Nowhere.  Some cities burn it, some put it quietly in landfills, but mostly it is all just piling up.

As the trash piles up, American cities are scrambling to figure out what to do with everything they had previously sent to China. But few businesses want it domestically, for one very big reason: Despite all those advertising campaigns, Americans are terrible at recycling.

About 25 percent of what ends up in the blue bins is contaminated, according to the National Waste & Recycling Association. For decades, we’ve been throwing just about whatever we wanted—wire hangers and pizza boxes and ketchup bottles and yogurt containers—into the bin and sending it to China, where low-paid workers sorted through it and cleaned it up. That’s no longer an option. And in the United States, at least, it rarely makes sense to employ people to sort through our recycling so that it can be made into new material, because virgin plastics and paper are still cheaper in comparison.

Which begs the question, if China never bought the sorted trash in the first place, would recycling ever be a viable endeavor?

I of course do not have an easy answer as to what to do with this.  If I did I wouldn’t be here, I’d be off getting filthy rich.  Chances are pretty good somebody will figure something out now that there is an incentive to do so.  In the meantime if you want to recycle because it makes you feel good…okay go for it.  Otherwise a good way to find out if there is a market for you trash is to put it in front of your house like you would an old couch.  Put a sign that says, “free” on it and see if its there the next day.

Need cans for cash, cash for alcohol research

Chances are pretty good a homeless guy knows exactly what will still fetch a few pennies for recycling, and will happily take it off your hands.

I bought canned wine with the intention of aggravating OMWC, but that didn’t work.  I’m going to have to make a quesadilla with some Manchego to do that.  The wine in a can is fruity, crisp, and has the ever so slight aftertaste of the epoxy liner to keep the wine from reacting with the 100% recyclable aluminum can.

Comments

147 responses to “Can of Whoop@$$”

  1. Yusef drives a Kia

    Mmmm, epoxy, is itChiness wine?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Or Chinese…

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        I don’t know.

  2. We recycle a lot at my work – which is easy since we can regrind plastic and then mold it again.

    But there is also a “zero waste” plan in place, with 8 different recycle bins in my office. I’ll have to ask someone in management what is really happening with these “recyclables”.

  3. Yusef drives a Kia

    In Cali they charge 10 cents per can, it’s not recycling anymore,

    1. Here in Michigan pop (or “soda” for you weirdos or “coke” for the real shitlords) or beer cans and bottles have an additional 10 cent deposit each. Adding 10c to three dollars to every purchase price.

      1. Rhywun

        Still a nickel here in NY. I only buy in 2l bottles so it’s not even worth returning them. I let the armies of little old Chinese ladies that roam the neighborhood have them.

        1. I use gallon bottles of water (you should see how much iron our well water has). The label says there’s a 5c deposit on them in Maine.

      2. ElspethFlashman

        I met a guy who used to gather up the returnables that didn’t get accepted – as his job. Sounds weird. But yeah, he drove a truck somewhere a few times a month full of returnable bottles. He hated that job, and he hated the “bottle bill.”

  4. >>bought canned wine with the intention of aggravating OMWC

    Small boxes of wine are the adult equivalent to fruit juice boxes for kids.

    1. Nephilium

      I thought that was these. Or are those more of the Capri Sun equivalent?

  5. Rhywun

    Chances are pretty good somebody will figure something out now that there is an incentive to do so.

    Maybe. In the meantime I expect eco-nanny pols to get much more active in their harassment of the American consumer. Straw bans and bag fees are just the tip of the iceberg of what’s in store.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      Well…they can’t just ship it to New Jersey. It’s full.

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        Well…they can’t just ship it to New Jersey. It’s full.

        Dig deeper!

  6. DEG

    Need cash for alcohol research

    Yes.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Come over and I’ll buy you 40 of Cobra

      1. DEG

        It has amusing reviews on BeerAdvocate.

        It was a day before payday and I noticed I was down to five dollars in my pocket. Since I realized I couldn’t afford a Sammy, Lagunita, or Dust Bowl I decided to buy a couple of ice cold cobra 40’s. I was two gulps into my second 40 when I suddenly felt the urge to smoke crack and do a drive by. After finishing it I moved from my apartment into an alley and started urinating in public. I’m hooked.

        1. 61North

          The melting snow has revealed a winter’s worth of king cobra cans preferred by panhandler, bums and other ne’er do-wells.

        2. 61North

          The melting snow has revealed a winter’s worth of king cobra cans preferred by panhandler, bums and other ne’er do-wells.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    And so, it turned out, was recycled PET plastic, because for Chinese manufacturers of articles like teddy bears and blue jeans, polyester fibers made from old plastic bottles were a cost-effective replacement for cotton.

    Earth to Slate: plastic is not a direct or acceptable substitute for cotton.

    kthxbai

    1. Rhywun

      Seriously.

      1. Not Adahn

        Yet.

        My cleanroom suit is 100% synthetic (99% polyester, 1% carbon fiber) and comfy as hell.

  8. Rhywun

    Americans are terrible at recycling

    Stupid fucking Americans. Why can’t you be more like the rest of the world who are so much better at recycling?

    1. Tejicano

      So many foreigners who come to Japan and learn to sort their garbage usually believe that this means the garbage is being recycled.

      In truth, only most of the aluminum is recycled. In some locations the glass – or some small portion of it – gets recycled. Most of it is required to be sorted so they know which garbage to burn and which they can dump in a landfill.

      1. grrizzly

        Five different containers for my trash? I dumped my trash into a random one on the streets in Japan and felt good about it.

    2. Suthenboy

      Because it is not financially viable. There is a reason for that. It takes far less resources (less damaging to ‘the environment’) to make new stuff than to recycle excepting glass and metals.

  9. AlmightyJB

    What’s wrong with Manchego? Obviously you need melty cheese too, but I like Manchego.

    1. Sean

      #metoo

  10. AlmightyJB

    Sounds like somebody needs a holiday

    https://youtu.be/dW143W4GE7Q

      1. Rhywun

        Not this?

        1. MikeS

          Jeezus. No, not that.

          1. Rhywun

            Have another.

          2. MikeS

            Better than Madonna, I guess.

            Here’s something kinky.

      2. AlmightyJB

        Great tune but I was going for the wine reference:)

        1. MikeS

          Um, uh, yeah, I knew that!

  11. Left Hand of Radar

    Paging OMWC: Chris Davis just hit a 2-run single!

    1. Old Man With Candy

      Our long national nightmare has ended.

      1. Spudalicious

        How many millions do you think that single cost the Orioles?

        1. Old Man With Candy

          $23MM this year.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    The unbearable Trumpness of Ivanka

    <When Trump won, everything went to hell. According to the source, “We just really didn’t know what would happen, because we were now publishing a book to a community who didn’t like her dad very much.” The silver lining was that the publicity team was flooded with requests for interviews with the first daughter. Then, three weeks before publication, government ethics lawyers weighed in: Ivanka could not do a single appearance or interview to promote the book. Sales were dismal. Women Who Work was widely panned. Reviewers did not just excoriate the book; they excoriated Ivanka. She herself hadn’t changed: She was doling out the same #ITWiseWords she always had—“Prove smart is sexy,” “Seize the moments as they come,” “‘Now’ is the new ‘later.’” But for the first time, Ivanka was unable to disassociate from her father. She was no longer a Woman Who Worked. She was a Woman Who Worked for Donald Trump.

    She’s a monster. Blood guilt demands hatred.

    What a poisonous way to live.

    1. Rhywun

      What did the world ever do to deserve The Atlantic?

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Ivanka should bring out a line of canned wine.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    The quality that people say they admire most about Ivanka is her “poise”; I’ve heard the word used about her probably 100 times. And she is poised. Not a word or a hair out of place. When you ask a question, no matter how innocuous, her eyes narrow at each word, as though she is positioning herself on a tennis court to return an opponent’s serve.

    Preternaturally composed. Superhuman self restraint.

    She’s a sociopath. There can be no doubt.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      She drinks the blood of children to steal their essence.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Would

  15. The Late P Brooks

    She drinks the blood of children to steal their essence.

    From CANS!

  16. Subwoofer

    Americans aren’t bad at recycling, just particularly good at composting. So good, in fact, that there’s little if any economic benefit to recycling.

    1. BakedPenguin

      Well, recycling metals is useful.

      But yeah, it’s another green shibboleth for the most part.

  17. Stillhunter

    I diligently sort and bring my ‘recyclables’ to the transfer station once a week along with a large garbage can full of the rest. The main reason I make the effort is because the amount of non-recyclables is reduced, thus my cost to dump the garbage is probably about half of what it would be. So I am thankful my garbage disposal is being subsidized by someone (partially by me as I pay taxes to the county and they run the transfer station). I have no idea where the recyclables go, nor where the garbage goes, though likely a landfill somewhere fairly close. Frankly, I don’t care. I also don’t know where the TVs, computers, refrigerators, washers, dryers or other detritus of the sort ends up, though I’ve been told each has desirable parts that get removed. I do understand the waste oil and lead-acid batteries get recycled as they have a market.

    I do know that the most popular pile is the metal scrap where you sign a waiver and get to dig through for anything you may consider treasure. I’ve personally removed several items, including a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine (didn’t work, but turned over easily), fencing, metal roofing, and a few other things I can’t recall.

    1. Rhywun

      That sounds like a reasonable approach. In many places (like mine) there is no incentive to recycle, so why bother? Neither the appeals to Gaia (the carrot) nor the slim (zero, in my case, as an apartment-dweller) chance of some apparatchik snooping through my garbage looking for contraband (the stick) have much effect when there is no direct financial gain from doing it.

    2. Akira

      Around here, if I pile up some metal junk near the street, it will be gone in a matter of hours. There’s a mentally handicapped man who collects junk metal and sells it for scrap. Nice way for him to make a few bucks, and convenient for people who want to get rid of old metal.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    I do know that the most popular pile is the metal scrap where you sign a waiver and get to dig through for anything you may consider treasure. I’ve personally removed several items, including a Briggs and Stratton lawnmower engine (didn’t work, but turned over easily), fencing, metal roofing, and a few other things I can’t recall.

    That’s surprising. Places I have lived, “mining” the trash has been strictly verboten. When I moved to Ketchum, there was something of a local controversy in progress, because up until shortly before (early ’90s) there had been a designated drop off area at the landfill dump where things of potential value to somebody (else) could be put. That had been banned, and there were signs saying not to steal the trash.

    1. Fourscore

      “signs saying not to steal the trash”

      Written in bear language?

    2. 61North

      The transfer stations and/or landfills in small towns up here have a similar thing where you can throw away actual trash and then things have value, but are unwanted, off to the side and it’s fair game.

    3. Stillhunter

      I assume that mostly has to do with liability, but the waiver takes care of that apparently. It seems the height of stupidity, and grossly inefficient, to not allow someone to use something they find in the ‘trash’. Let me be clear, there is no chance they let you go down into the compactor/container of the actual garbage to fish anything out. The piles they allow you to remove things from (scrap metal and construction/demolition materials) they explicitly say you are not allowed to climb on and can’t disturb the pile (tear it apart to get at something, though if you ask nicely they may get something for you the next time they are pushing the pile together with the loader). There are also set asides as 61North mentions for things like doors, windows, and various items that work, but may not be in great shape or are of no use to the current owner. For example, I dropped off a working sewing machine that I didn’t feel like putting on the local ‘swap and sell’ website and didn’t figure it was worth much, but also didn’t feel right just throwing it in a landfill.

  19. Scruffy Nerfherder

    China underwrote the bulk recycling programs across the Western world. It made the currently established systems profitable, it will take a while for them to adjust simply because their capital investments were oriented towards the Chinese markets.

    Generally, cardboard and metal are profitable, plastics are a wash, and glass is a loser.

  20. mikey

    Did the taxes yesterday. We got to keep an extra 1,100 Pelosi crumbs compared to last year on about the same income.
    With no mortgage and the higher std deduction we don’t have have itemize. I would have just done them myself. Instead, I bought TurboTax because of the Montana return. Holy fuck, the Montana tax code is a sordid mess of carve outs and indulgences. The form is a mess. Almost makes me yearn for Mass with it’s simple “Multiply adj gross by .0525”. Even with TurboTax is was multiple screens of “Do you qualify for any of the following dozen items?” Since we don’t raise cattle, dig for copper or work on a railroad the answers were all “no”. But, Jeesh.

    By way of compensation my morning bike ride looked like https://imgur.com/a/AED3Sch

    1. DEG

      Except for the snow, the morning bike ride looks good.

      The Massachusetts non-resident form is a pain in the ass. Back when I did it on paper, the instructions stated you had to sign every page, both sides. It was eight pieces of paper if I remember correctly.

      When I switched to using software, the software always considered my interest income which was not earned in MA taxable in MA. I hated fixing that.

      I’ve had a good run of not paying MA taxes.

      New Hampshire’s income tax form (yes, New Hampshire has an income tax) is pretty easy to take care of except that the payment and the return have to go to separate addresses.

      I remember Pennsylvania’s state and local income tax forms not being that bad, but it’s been a long time since I lived there.

      1. Rhywun

        Stupid software keeps doubling my out-of-state NJ income and saying I owe thousands, every year, until I fix it.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          TurboTax won’t install the latest update unless the Trash is emptied first. Good thing those guys are working to codify their crony arrangement with the IRS.

          (SLD, filing taxes shouldn’t require software of any kind)

          1. Not Adahn

            It shouldn’t, but in NY, it does.

    2. Akira

      With no mortgage and the higher std deduction

      Aw shit, my tax guy never told me I could have gotten a deduction for those!!

      1. Not Adahn

        It’s how Winston’s mom made her fortune.

    3. Since we don’t raise cattle, dig for copper or work on a railroad

      Not even half the livelong day?

    4. Fourscore

      MT-MN must have written their state tax laws together. I use Turbo as well, fortunately only the numbers and laws change, I keep track of 1, Turbo the other. I did mine a couple months ago, got my refund and my wife made sure to stimulate the economy. Its the price we pay for “Tyranny of the Majority”.

      1. my wife made sure to stimulate the economy

        Enough with the euphemisms.

  21. mikey

    Did the taxes yesterday. We got to keep an extra 1,100 Pelosi crumbs compared to last year on about the same income.
    With no mortgage and the higher std deduction we don’t have have itemize. I would have just done them myself. Instead, I bought TurboTax because of the Montana return. Holy fuck, the Montana tax code is a sordid mess of carve outs and indulgences. The form is a mess. Almost makes me yearn for Mass with it’s simple “Multiply adj gross by .0525”. Even with TurboTax is was multiple screens of “Do you qualify for any of the following dozen items?” Since we don’t raise cattle, dig for copper or work on a railroad the answers were all “no”. But, Jeesh.

    By way of compensation this was my morning bike ride.
    https://imgur.com/a/AED3Sch https://imgur.com/a/

    1. mikey

      I pinky swear I only hit “Reply” once!

      1. Francisco d’Anconia

        The squirrels hate Reason’s new format and moved here?

  22. Trials and Trippelations

    My wife has fully adopted the zero waste movement. I think it’s a little silly, but it’s not too much of an inconvience to me.
    My wife and I share a laptop and The last website she had up was some zero waste commentary piece. It was the typical environmental ignorance. “If the world produced waste like the US does we would run out of material and space in X years”
    Disregarding both inovation and the market forces on materials. This obviously was not a shock to me

    1. Fatty Bolger

      According to the alarmists, we should have run out of everything by now.

  23. Suthenboy

    I keep losing service. The weather here is shit. Extreme tornado danger and heavy rain.

    I will pass the afternoon sipping vodka and listening to Brittany Haas.

    If you like pretty girls and masterful musicians you could do a lot worse

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x2MP2gGND8

    1. DEG

      Hopefully you weather the storm without a problem.

      I like that song. Thanks!

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Well, in case you were wondering, Cal won 9-5.

    3. The Last American Hero

      That’s not Motley Crue!

      /ducks

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Leave Ilhan Omar alone!

    tl;dr- Conor Friedersdorf whiteknights Omar, says, “Get over it, snowflakers.”

    I’m perfectly willing to believe she’s just an incoherent blithering imbecile.

    As far as I’m concerned, the people who have made a career out of being hand-me-down “9/11 victims” can all fuck off.

    1. Rhywun

      ATL;DR

      1. 61North

        My parents used to get the Atlantic back in the 90s and I was still in MS/HS, but I remember it being well-written and interesting at least through GWB’s first term.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    “If the world produced waste like the US does we would run out of material and space in X years”

    If we keep mining, the planet will be the size of a golf ball, in __ years!

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      It’ll get hollowed out like the dark matter planet in Fururama.

  26. Not Adahn

    What a beautiful day it is in upstate NY today.

    Great breakfast, decent shooting (at my Boss’s gun club), ran my mower for the first time (to mulch leaves), now glibbing with beer and snacks.

    1. Akira

      I mowed my lawn for the first time as well on my push-reel mower. The weather is warmer, I got offered and promptly accepted a far superior position at work, and I’m making good headway on learning web development so that I can get an even better job someday down the road. As for tonight, I’m going to put out the word that there’s brats, sauerkraut, beer, and white wine punch and see who shows up.

      Life is looking pretty damn good in both the short term and long term.

    2. I had to go in to work for four hours.

      It was raining when I left the house.

      1. Not Adahn

        It rained overnight, and was stormy until about 9:00 tis morning, but then cleared out.

    3. Rhywun

      Purty in the city too, and even the humidity is going down.

    4. Nephilium

      Decent day her in Cleveland as well, got my first bike ride of the year in (quick little ~10 mile ride to make sure the bike’s still in good shape). Beginning the packing for Viva, and have steaks sitting out for dinner.

  27. Old Man With Candy

    Wonder Dog had a trip to the dog park. She is remarkable in her total disinterest in other dogs, but she immediately spotted my old pals from HnR days, Grand Moff-Serious Man and Kibby, and trotted over to demand hugs and scritches. Which they heaped on her.

    “It’s not like Swiss and his pizza, but they seem nice.”

    1. Not Adahn

      I am still sulking that I never got an invite to their wedding.

      Admittedly, I never posted until Glibertiarians.com was created, but still.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        SP was originally going to officiate (she’s ordained ULC), but I had to take a business trip to Buffalo that week, so jesse ended up doing it. And apparently did it quite well.

        1. Not Adahn

          Apparently so since they’re still together.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Speaking of TOS , they’re revamping their site and have added an option to flag comments for review.

      1. Not Adahn

        how badly would you have to fuck up to be on comment review duty?

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen
  28. 61North

    For fucks sake

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-mcgill-university-drops-sports-teams-name-after-criticism-from/

    “Catie Galbraith, a first-year history student and Chickasaw from Fort Wayne, Ind., said family and friends advised her against going to McGill because of the name and the school’s reputation as an isolating place for Indigenous people. (The self-identified Indigenous population of McGill is less than 1 per cent.)

    “It’s quite alienating for a lot of people,” she said. “But we have a lot of hope for the future with the name change. I hope to make McGill a better place, a place I’d tell my baby sister to go to.”

    1. AlmightyJB

      Indian warriors used to be so cool. The left is memory holing them.

      1. 61North

        The fucked up part is that it started out in the same vein as the Syracuse Orange due to McGill having red uniforms, then it was wrongly associated with natives and then it was correctly disassociated with natives back in the 90s. But no, some idiots couldn’t leave well enough alone and had to do something that will make ZERO long term difference on the campus or any of the various shithole reserves across the country.

        I’ll be there this fall for a long weekend and I’ll wear my Redmen shirt with pride. Fuck them.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Prediction: in twenty years, the outragistas will paint removing Indian associated names and mascots as a move by evil racist rightwingers, singling them out as the only ones not able to be associated with sports.

    2. Rhywun

      McGill adopted the name in the 1920s in reference to its red uniforms.

      And there it is.

      1. 61North

        I wouldn’t have proudly played a sport with the Redmen jersey for 4 years if Redmen was meant to mock or belittle people based on the color of their skin or ethnicity or whatever.

        1. Rhywun

          Near as I can tell it’s never about mocking, even the explicit ones. If one thinks the Redskins are mocking Indians, one is an idiot – pure and simple.

          1. 61North

            I cannot agree more since it has nothing to do with first nations.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            “Fighting Irish”?

          3. Rhywun

            Doesn’t seem mocking to me.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Lemme finish this beer and a pint of whiskey, and I’ll meet you in the parking lot to continue this discussion.

          5. Rhywun

            I think you’re reading something into it that doesn’t factor in where the name came from, at least according to the various theories I read on Wikipedia.

  29. westernsloper

    Wine in a can was something I found out about some weeks ago. Who knew. The boss started selling Mancan at events. I’m not sure the rednecks around here will go for it. These are people who blow their nose with a forced exhale and an index finger.

    1. 61North

      Wine in a can for most people in that demographic is taking an empty coke can and pouring wine into for stealth drinking. I count myself in that demographic.

    2. Francisco d’Anconia

      These are people who blow their nose with a forced exhale and an index finger.

      How the hell do you do it?

      1. westernsloper

        Using my pocket hanky which is a recycled previous days ascot.

        1. Francisco d’Anconia

          I do a farmer’s blow 10 times a day. (outside, of course)

          1. Rhywun

            Yeah, watch a soccer game and you’ll it dozens of times in the space of 90 minutes.

      2. The trick is to lean forward and turn your head to the side a bit so you don’t get any on ya.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Farmer’s blow is what we always call it.

          1. Real farmers use their thumb. The index finger is for those fancified city folk.

    3. Rhywun

      My last SO did it every night, into the bathroom sink. He was the keeper.

      1. westernsloper

        That was the first decent link you have ever posted. Congratulations!

    4. Suthenboy

      “These are people who blow their nose with a forced exhale and an index finger.”

      That’s called a ‘farmer brown’ and I do it all of the time. Wanna’ fight?

    1. westernsloper

      This is why I took a break from the news for a few months. Assholes all the way down.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      So the “trolls” were essentially right, but we’re supposed to be mad at them and not the reporters pushing false narratives? And according to an article linked in this one, YouTube’s rewarding of things that are popular makes it bad, proven by an inaccurate video that was inspired by inaccurate reporting which is, presumably, good.

      1. Rhywun

        Yes.

      2. Human interest fluff piece ≠pushing false narrative.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          Of course you would say that. ?

        2. MikeS

          Normally you have some truth behind your trolling. Normally.

          1. What? Okay the headline was clickbaity but the story of the gushing young scientist all excited about the photo was pure human interest fluff, and they crossed the T’s and dotted the I’s, making it clear she part of one of many teams that did all sort of work that led to this thing happening. Good god not every single thing on CNN or FOX is part of a global conspiracy to shape the world, sometimes a bit of puff is just a bit of puff.

          2. MikeS

            Which story? I’m not seeing a link to the original not narrative driven story.

          3. MikeS

            The HotAir story isn’t referring to any single fluff-piece story. It’s referring to the narrative pushing on Twitter and Facebook that followed. And that is what led to the Reddit idiots pushing back the other way.

            The were pushing back on comments like this:

            Take your rightful seat in history, Dr. Bouman! ?

            Congratulations and thank you for your enormous contribution to the advancements of science and mankind.

            Here’s to #WomenInSTEM!
            ??‍???‍???‍???‍? https://t.co/3cs9QYrz9C

            — Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) April 10, 2019

          4. MikeS

            From the NYT:

            Public figures from Washington to Hollywood learned her name. And some advocates, familiar with how history can write over the contributions of women, quickly moved to make sure she received the recognition she deserved. In their eagerness to celebrate her, however, many nonscientists on social media overstated her role in what was a group effort by hundreds of people, creating an exaggerated impression as the photo was shared and reshared.

          5. But that’s not we were seeing online or in the media. The Washington Post quickly put out a video titled “Meet the woman behind the first photo of a black hole.”

            that one.

          6. Fatty Bolger

            This is the one linked by trshmnstr right after they announced it:

            https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/apr/10/black-hole-picture-captured-for-first-time-in-space-breakthrough

            The student who developed a crucial algorithm

            While still studying at MIT, the computer scientist Katie Bouman came up with a new algorithm to stitch together data collected across the EHT network. Bouman went on to lead an elaborate series of tests aimed at ensuring that the EHT’s image was not the result of some form of technical glitch or fluke. At one stage, this involved the collaboration splitting into four separate teams which analysed the data independently until they were absolutely confident of their findings.

            An algorithm they didn’t even use.

            It kind of reminds me of Big Head Bag Head’s meteoric rise in Silicon Valley. Except the “trolls” refused to play along and ruined it all. (And she obviously deserves some credit, unlike Bag Head.)

          7. Stillhunter

            It seems there are multiple levels here. The stuff from AOC, etc. was way over the top, as usual. Others were essentially puff pieces as Hyp said. And there are the ‘trolls’ who seemed to direct most of their anger at the woman, who pretty much said it wasn’t just me. Unfortunately, she made the mistake of being excited and bubbly about it and shared an off the cuff image that some interpreted as taking credit.

            My takeaway is: Go ahead and post to social media if you must. There will be loads of people who enjoy what you posted. Ignore the fuck-sticks who get off by denigrating people. They aren’t worth it.

          8. Fatty Bolger

            Anybody who got mad at her personally is an idiot.

          9. MikeS

            Anybody who got mad at her personally is an idiot.

            Agreed.

  30. DEG

    Ein Maß Yuengling Oktoberfest.

    It will help with doing some work for work.

  31. The Late P Brooks

    I hope to make McGill a better place, a place I’d tell my baby sister to go to.

    Cthulu save us from people who want to make the world a better place.

    1. Stillhunter

      I keep hearing this about the latest generation generation or two (Millenials and especially Gen Z). They all want to change the world and they are the first generations who think they actually can. I see it differently. I think previous generations wanted to change the world, but it wasn’t that explicit. They wanted to make life better buy inventing and improving, not by removing and destroying. It wasn’t about some abstract of ‘the world’, but something coherent and real.

      Obviously there were people who thought this way even in previous generations, but that mentality seems to have been building since the progressive movement began and has reached full throat. I’m sure there are plenty in the latest generations who feel like those of old. The scientists, inventors, builders, creators. I wish they were given more play than the destroyer types.

      TL;DR Don’t build yourself up by tearing others down.

  32. Rhywun

    LOL the NYCFC goalkeeper just kicked the ball into his own net. This year just gets better and better.

  33. I saw the headline and expected a review of the Whoop-Ass Energy drink that was, at the very least, made around the year 2000 or so.

    1. Nephilium

      Made by Jones Soda company. Of course, I also remember when Circuit City sold cases of Bawls.

  34. Spudalicious

    Spring is definitely here. Mucked out the irrigation pump vaults this morning, put the mulching blades on the lawn tractor so I could mow for the second time in three days to get the height down, and put the peas in the ground. Time for a cocktail.