Tuesday Afternoon First of the Month Links

Conversation at Glibs HQ when Brett told us he needed help with the links:

jesse: I will say that I do a lot for you Brett. I spend a lot of effort and a lot of time. but I have been very very good to you, Brett. I wouldn’t say that it’s reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but I have been very very good to Brett.

Brett: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only. 100%, but actually 1000%. I’m very grateful to you for that because the you are doing quite a lot for me.

So, I’m thinking it’s pretty clear I’m going to get a little quid pro quo for doing the links today. What do you guys think?

If you’re an Amazon Prime member today is the day to pick up this month’s freebies in their First Reads program for books and Twitch Prime Loot for games.

And I suppose I need a music link.

Comments

480 responses to “Tuesday Afternoon First of the Month Links”

  1. Does jesse enforce the switzy ot delay?

    1. Florida Man

      I’ll tell you after the 30 minutes are up.

    2. I’ve once again redrafted the blurb for “Prince of the North Tower”, and am looking for feedback.

      Prince Kord preferred the book to the blade, but studied both diligently. When what looked like a minor incursion of goblins into his family’s lands turned out to be more serious, he was sent to fetch aid. Frustrated playing messenger, Kord is tempted to leave his obligations behind and study magic. When his uncle and foster father are caught in a trap, Kord needs an army to rescue them – only everyone else is busy fighting their own wars.

      1. Frustrated playing messenger seems oddly constructed. Reads as if there is something called a ‘Playing messenger’ and he’s frustrated. “Frustrated at playing the messenger” maybe? Also the two Whens to start sentences seems off but perhaps that kind of thing is alright for a blurb.

      2. R C Dean

        A few minor edits:

        Prince Kord preferred the book to the blade, but studied both diligently. When an apparently minor incursion of goblins into his family’s lands turned out to be more serious, he was sent to fetch aid. Frustrated by playing messenger, Kord is tempted to leave his obligations behind and study magic. But with his uncle and foster father caught in a trap, Kord needs an army to rescue them – only everyone else is busy fighting their own wars.

        Still not thrilled about how the second sentence starts. Also, it seems kind of odd that he would just abandon his family rather than fetching help.

      3. OneOut

        What did the Goblin incursion turn out to be more serious than ?

        A toothache ?

        A hangnail ?

        I can assume that it’s a major incursion but I am forced to make that assumption.

    3. jesse.in.mb

      Eh. It’s not as big a problem for me as Swiss, but I also do them infrequently. Putting the effort to find good stories and make the links passably entertaining and then have people zip right past them feels very much like having a conversation where the person your talking to isn’t listening at all and is waiting for you to finish speaking so they can tell you inane details of their latest shoe-shopping excursion.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Cool. Cool. Hey, did you see the F1 race this weekend? Man, Vettel was robbed.

      2. CPRM

        Uhuh, yeah…So any way I saw this pair of boots, and I totally had to have them, but then I thought my best friend might get jealous, you know the one, I told you about them last week, so annoying, it’s like they never even listen to me, and always talking behind my back, such an asshole move; but the boots were so awesome, but I couldn’t find the price tag, so I spent literally three hours looking for an a store employee….

      3. Playa Manhattan

        Just got the black Nikes with high arches. Didn’t have to go to the mall though. Amazon.

        There’s more to the story.

      4. Jarflax

        I read your links, and Imma let you finish, but Brett L has the best links and Brett L deserves this award.

        1. Spudalicious

          You gotta be shitting me.

      5. Tonio

        What, you don’t like to hear about shoe shopping? What type of homo are you?

        1. Jarflax

          The Bear foot type?

        2. bacon-magic

          A top?

          1. Tonio

            Oh no, you didn’t just…

      6. Don Escaped Texas

        30 minutes seems fair: I notice that it usually flies by before I remember to worry about it.

        That said, there’s a base commentary content of maybe 50% that never changes here no matter what is posted, so I would hope each poster is immune or at least suited up for the background radiation because it’s no reflection on the piece at all. I’m more into Supreme Court rulings than dingo-ate-baby stories, so I’m probably looking for an excuse to go OT on a slow day. Then again, my few articles are strange fish: I thought my football BS would be cynical fun, but, after a couple of hours to put it together, it gets the Dorfmann treatment more than a little . . . but I think guys should go OT on me if sportzball speculation doesn’t appeal to them. That logic probably doesn’t apply to lynx, but I’ve thought about it.

        I do think that high tolerance for inappropriate and annoying speech is one of the best things about this place and its policies such as I understand them.

        Thanks for all you do.

        1. R C Dean

          I find that posting about drinking is a good way to get > 50% on-topic comments.

          For some reason.

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            brilliant !

            * pours first round *

          2. Don Escaped Texas

            OT: how many of our links are going to be dead ends a year after posting?

      7. Chafed

        I read your links Jesse. They were good links.

        /not sarcasm

        1. jesse.in.mb

          You’re too kind. *blushes*

  2. Tres Cool

    “babies in womb have lizard-like hand muscles”

    Seriously- they never watched “V” ?

    1. Yusef

      + 1 Diana…
      SupTres!

      1. Tres Cool

        HEY YUFUS!

        1. Tres Cool

          In the original, cheesy, 80s series, there was some human girl that got knocked-up by the lizard thing.

          1. Yusef

            Red eyes and a forked tongue, BA DAAAAAAA! DRAMA! LIZARD BABY!!!!!

      2. The Bearded Hobbit

        Today’s fun fact: Jane Badler and I were born on the same day. Also James Remar.

        Back to your regularly scheduled glibs.

    2. Florida Man

      Ugh. Yes, humans are the product of a very long evolutionary process. It’s not 1925 anymore.

    3. Tonio

      Anyone know where I can find the eighties “V” series?

      1. Tres Cool

        /looks nervously around….

        ……Pirate Bay ?

      2. Sean

        Amazon?

      3. Mad Scientist

        It’s on Prime for $10 a season.

        1. Tonio

          Thankee!

      4. bacon-magic

        Good series.

  3. Count Potato

    “Authorities are not releasing more information surrounding Khyler’s death as they continue to investigate.”

    Huh.

    “Police initially responded to reports of an injured man running through a neighborhood in Port Charlotte. Authorities found the alleged intruder, identified as Ryan Clayton Cole, near Khyler’s home, with several stab wounds on his hands and side. Cole tried to flee when authorities approached him, police said.”

    Well, those sound like defensive wounds.

    1. Florida Man

      That story is both depressing and inspiring. I really root for an under dog and that kid had guts. Hopefully the intruder spends a long time in jail with having killed a kid on his conscience.

      1. Bob Boberson

        When word gets around that he’s a kid killer his time in the pen will not go by quickly or easily.

        1. Sean

          I hope you’re right.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        This is why I’m in favor of the death penalty in theory.

        1. Florida Man

          Yeah, this is a pretty obvious case, but unfortunately too many people have been executed that we’re later exonerated and if we’ve learned nothing, we know you can’t give the state an inch.

        2. Yeah, ditto. I don’t think the state should be permitted to kill its own citizens. Also, I believe that any member of that boy’s family should be able to tee off on that guy’s head with a 5-iron until the white meat shows and then feed him to the pigs without legal repercussion.

          1. Gadfly

            Sounds like the old “Outlaw” system, wherein a person found guilty was cast outside the law and lost all legal protections. Of course, they were fair game to more than just the victims’ kin, but I could see an argument for that.

        3. Juvenile Bluster

          This is definitely the sort of case that tests my opposition to the death penalty. For the same reasons Florida Man stated above, I’m not going to waver on that opposition though. Rotting in a cell the rest of his life is a just enough punishment.

          1. Sean

            That’s on your dime though.

          2. Florida Man

            Cost are similar if not cheaper. Also, clear the non-violent offenders out of prison and the cost are manageable.

      3. Tonio

        I know this sounds creepy but in my ideal society the family would check the box for sperm to be biopsied from the kid’s body then made available for IVF, etc. Cole may well get conjugal visits in prison (spousal right, not prisoner right) and conceive more children. That poor boy deserves to live on in some fashion.

        1. Florida Man

          If he wanted kids I guess so. There would need to be a willing lady and the perp should be forced to provide labor and his money sent as child support.

          1. Tonio

            I was thinking of random meritorious couple that needs sperm to conceive. The Hero Institute would handle such things. Only catch would be that biological grandparents get a reasonable number of visits if they wish.

          2. Florida Man

            That could work. 2 birds 1 scone.

      4. Suthenboy

        Long time = until he can put back what he took away

    2. R C Dean

      Well, those sound like defensive wounds.

      Yup. And if he had gotten stabbed in his house rather than trying to rob the dead kid’s house, he probably wouldn’t have anything to worry about.

  4. Yusef

    Howdy!

    1. MikeS

      Good afternoon.

  5. KibbledKristen

    We met my brother’s brother and his husband this weekend. Brother’s brother has been looking for him for ~40 years.

    https://imgur.com/a/57EweR6 (my brother is in bright blue in the middle, his brother is in muted blue in the middle)
    https://imgur.com/a/X9IVXn6

    1. AlmightyJB

      That’s awesome:)

    2. Tonio

      Happy for you all.

    3. MikeS

      Excellent! Nice detective work, KK!

    4. Rhywun

      Fabulous!

    5. Jarflax

      Congratulations! but OT so bad Kristen no kibble.

    6. R C Dean

      We met my brother’s brother

      Wouldn’t that be your brother? Or at least, half-brother?

    7. Suthenboy

      Very good.

      Just one problem KK. I hardly recognize you without a ski suit on.

  6. Bob Boberson

    I was just about to link the nut-punch article about the kid being killed by the burglar. I grew up in a house with loaded guns that I had access to and I managed to make it to adulthood without killing myself or one of my siblings. Things may have gone very different if that was the case in his household.

    1. Suthenboy

      Same here.

  7. Rufus the Monocled

    Isn’t 1000% the same as 100%? I mean, technically.

    1. Florida Man

      No it is 10x as much.

      1. Suthenboy

        Exactly. Everything times ten.

  8. Juvenile Bluster

    Florida Keys island on sale for $17 million

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/real-estate/prime-property/fl-bz-florida-private-island-for-sale-islamorada-20191001-rza4a6whlvgltikywsnl4x32fy-story.html

    Glib crowdfunding, we all move there and secede from the US. Sound good?

    1. Yusef

      Learn to swim……?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      /slams down a hundred bucks and some coins.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Nobody wants your subway tokens!

      2. MikeS

        So…about $26 US?

      3. Sensei

        Finally a good use for all the toonies you have been hoarding!

    3. Tres Cool

      Wasnt ‘Conch Republic’ done already ?

      1. MikeS

        They didn’t do it right.

    4. Count Potato

      For $16.5 less you could put a meth lab in an Earth Roamer.

    5. Florida Man

      I want to see the constitution for glib-Island before I sign up. I didn’t get a choice on the last social contract.

      1. Not Adahn

        Section I: Buttsex
        Section II: Weed
        Section III: Mexicans

        1. Florida Man

          DEAL!

          *signs on dotted line*

          1. Jarflax

            You have agreed to 12 hour daily labor in the pot fields, followed by 4 hours as the comfort butt in barracks 7.

        2. Tonio

          Adds coffee can of coins to pile.

        3. I WANT WEED FIRST!

          1. MikeS

            No ass, no grass.

          2. Spudalicious

            Nobody rides for free.

          3. Tonio

            Dude! [passes reefer with hilariously ineffective attempt at surreptitiousness]

          4. bacon-magic

            #metoo

    6. Playa Manhattan

      Are there covenants on it? If so, it’s not worth half of what they’re asking.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        If not covenants, lots of Federal / state land management regulations I would think.

    7. MikeS

      Can we call it Margarita-vile?

        1. MikeS

          Son of a son of a bitch!

    8. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Have they cleaned the Epstein off the sofas already?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        I wonder what his island will be able to be picked up for?

        1. Not Adahn

          The en suite temple is a definite selling point.

  9. Count Potato

    “Sobbing white cop Amber Guyger is comforted by a court sheriff as she’s found GUILTY of murdering her black male neighbor who she shot dead in his apartment ‘after thinking it was her own’ – as his relieved mother throws her arms in the air”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7525717/White-cop-Amber-Guyger-GUILTY-murder.html

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      I can’t wait for the Dallas police union/National FOP to issue some statement about how Amber Guyger is totes innocent and her conviction is just another example of the war on cops ™.

      1. Bob Boberson

        And how if you post negative things about her on social media they’ll have your number.

        the murder of Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas ought to be the bigger story but the media has buried that because the victims weren’t black and it isn’t usefully divisive.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Some of the shit Acevedo has publicly said about that is monstrous.

          1. Bob Boberson

            I didn’t think contempt for them could be any more intense but gosh darnit, they found a way

      2. Florida Man

        I was surprised that they hung murder on her. I was certain no higher than manslaughter.

        1. Bob Boberson

          I was thinking this was a case where the prosecution deliberately overcharged knowing a jury would be less likely to convict. It seems that the prosecution in this trial was actually interested in getting a conviction.

          1. Tonio

            Ding, ding, ding! Tell him what he’s won, Rufus…

          2. Sensei

            And Turtlewax!

          3. Tres Cool

            Rice-a-Roni, the San Franciso treat

          4. Tonio

            Aw, you guys…

            Also, Ron Popeil – great American or greatest American?

          5. MikeS

            They originally charged her with manslaughter, but the grand jury came back with murder…if I followed it correctly. And, IANAL; maybe that’s a distinction without a difference?

          6. Tonio

            There most certainly is a difference under the law. Writ very large – manslaughter carries the presumption of a perhaps avoidable action in a regrettable set of circumstances, murder is a conscious decision to kill the muddafuqua dead whether a few moments or a few days before the fact.

          7. MikeS

            No, I meant the difference between the grand jury bringing a charge of manslaughter or the prosecutor doing it. Meaning, did the prosecutor ask the GJ to bring back murder, or did they go above and beyond the original charge of manslaughter by their own volition? I don’t understand the inside baseball of grand juries.

          8. Tonio

            Nobody does, Mikey. Those proceedings are sealed as shit. (Which is another problem wrt prosecutorial accountability).

            Ham sammich, and all that. Apologies for linking to Slate.

        2. wdalasio

          My understanding is that they pushed the murder charge to allow for the misbegotten Castle Doctrine defense.

          1. Florida Man

            The defense or the prosecution?

          2. Tonio

            Horseshoe effect in this instance.

          3. Florida Man

            Touché

      3. Heroic Mulatto

        Remember how her colleagues ransacked the guys house and crowed that they found marijuana?

        1. Ozymandias

          I had forgotten about that aspect to the story, HM. Thank you for the reminder. It’s pertinent given the outcome.
          I think it would be worth some investigative journalist’s time to go down there and do some interviews, see what can be dug up locally, because there are aspects to this that I just know aren’t being covered.
          I would also love to read the trial transcript (as awful as that sounds, after a while, you develop a knack for it).

    2. CPRM

      “Sobbing white cop Amber Guyger is comforted by a court sheriff as she’s found GUILTY of murdering her black male neighbor who she shot dead in his apartment ‘after thinking it was her own’ – as his relieved mother throws her arms in the air”

      Those modifiers are unneeded.

      1. AlmightyJB

        How do I know what to think if I don’t know the races of everyone involved.

      2. Jarflax

        Honestly if you want to be strictly fair you should strike cop as well. She was off duty.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          You have to have ‘cop’ in there to explain why it said ‘comforted’ instead of ‘drug out’.

      3. Tonio

        “court sheriff”

        Regular sheriff’s deputy assigned to court duty as bailiff or to prisoner transport duty, more likely. But that is totally, completely unprofessional. Also another “fuck you” to the law abiding citizens and taxpayers. Would be interesting to see whether that person gets reassigned. Regular courthouse duty is a plum position compared to serving warrants or working in the jail.

        1. To be fair, it’s a British paper that might not know the proper terminology for American officers of the court.

          1. Tonio

            To be scholarly: US sheriffs are a very good analogue for UK sheriffs, US law being mostly (looking at you, Louisiana, with your bizarro Napoleonic code) derived from English Common Law.

            Also, reporterly duty to get things right, etc.

          2. Jarflax

            Hell we have coroners. We have turned them into medical examiners, but we still have them.

          3. Tonio

            +1 Coroner’s Jury.

            I’ve toyed with the idea of becoming a bailiff for a rural magistrate somewhere. I could totes get the judge lunch, pick up her drycleaning, and flirt with the hot young LEO studs bringing detainees in for arraignment.

          4. Suthenboy

            I find it odd in other states that they have constables that hold most of the power and sheriffs essentially none. It is the opposite here. In Louisiana the parish sheriff is just above god. Our constitution reads “The Sheriff is the sole tax collector and chief law enforcement officer in their respective parish.” <— Notice the period. State Police, Constable, FBI, DEA…whatever. No exceptions made. Sheriff, he is the man. He is also elected and the Sheriffs are very aware of that fact. All. in all I like our system better.

          5. Jarflax

            The sheriff is pretty much always the top law enforcement in a county, constables are just dudes with limited authority for limited purposes.

    3. J. Frank Parnell

      I saw some SJW handwringing on derpbook about this. tldr: it’s great that they finally convicted a white cop for killing a black guy, but sexist that they convicted a woman but never convict male cops.

      1. Bob Boberson

        because convictions should take a defendants grievance status into account. Justice just needs to peek under that blindfold a little bit…..

        SMDH

      2. Tonio

        So we have a sample size = 1, and they are bitching about quotas. How prog.

        1. Jarflax

          The same people will respond to any story posted by a right wing poster with “The plural of anecdote is not data” Ox gored whose, one each.

          1. Tonio

            Um, yeah; it kind of is, actually. /Lana Kane

      3. Not Adahn

        Well, duh, the verdict was delivered by racist Trumpalos. It can’t possibly have been done for the correct reasons.

    4. No other convicted defendant would get comforted by the court deputy.

      1. Not Adahn

        Young blonde chick? I wouldn’t bet money on that.

      2. Tonio

        Ted, I retired from a career which required me to spend copious amounts of time in courthouses. Depending on the venue, I can definitely see that happening under other circumstances, not all of which involve a LEO (writ large) defendant.

    5. R C Dean

      comforted by a court sheriff

      I’m sure they do that for all the convicted murderers.

      Mike: a grand jury can charge, or not charge, whatever they want.

      1. Jarflax

        “a grand jury would ‘indict a ham sandwich,’ if that’s what you wanted”

      2. MikeS

        That’s what I thought. So, what I was trying to get at up there was; I don’t think the all too typical “overcharge” by the prosecution hoping to get an aquital applies here.

        Sounds like the grand jury and the trial jury were in agreement.

        1. MikeS

          Oh, and now I finally read Tonio’s Ham Sammich link. Never mind my previous comment. And besides, I’m necro-posting. Why are you still here reading this?

  10. Sean

    So, I’m thinking it’s pretty clear I’m going to get a little quid pro quo for doing the links today.

    Like a hand job?

    1. Bobarian LMD

      That’s what the lizard like hand muscles are for.

    2. Gadfly

      Did you see the front-page image for this post? There is definitely an “implication” going on.

    3. Rebel Scum

      Too old fashioned.

  11. CPRM

    From the lizard muscles article: “We lost them because we do not need them.”

    Not really true from a biological standpoint, we lost them because they aren’t a factor in mating. Evolution cares not what is needed, only what is passed on. A primate that can’t climb well doesn’t get laid. A human who doesn’t climb well can get laid.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      What is a human who doesn’t climb well AND can’t get laid?

      Evolution isn’t a thing among muppets.

      1. CPRM

        An American Ninja Warrior viewer?

      2. Private Chipperbot
      3. Yusef

        Incel?

      4. bacon-magic

        Sure it is. *grabs eggplant plush toy and needle/thread
        You’re getting a nose job Hoser.

        1. That’s mutation, not evolution.

    2. Count Potato
  12. Tonio

    “Thirties…Need the D.”

    LOL, and what a cute cub. Thanks.

  13. Mad Scientist

    Babies in the womb have lizard-like hand muscles

    Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny!

  14. Gender Traitor

    At a glance (some of us WORK!!! [H/T Rufus]) those first two links are quite the pussy punch. : (

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I hear some people are into that.

      1. Gender Traitor

        Me? Not so much. Ow! I think I should apply moist heat.

  15. AlmightyJB

    We should just destroy all books, movies, and music with each passing generation.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-
    morrissey/2019/10/01/columnist-wonders-time-cancel-duke/

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      We should also destroy all links, but I think you have that covered

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      “I believe in white supremacy,” he said, and spoke harshly about African Americans, saying, “We can’t all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks.”

      “I don’t believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people,” he said.”

      Yeeessh. Even by 1971standards.

      I showed this to Oscar and even he cringed at that.

      Just to make sure. Wayne was wrong right? There is no racism among muppets so I don’t know how this works.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Of course he was wrong. The question is how much time we waste playing this game.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Would they pull out Woodrow Wilson racist quotes?

      2. Tonio

        “turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks”

        That was actually a big fear at the time, a fear whose flames were fanned by white supremacists and their proxies. So much change happened between the early and mid seventies (Blazing Saddles is a turning point and marker in many timelines).

      3. Suthenboy

        I remember those times well. Wayne was pretty ordinary for his generation with regards to race relations. Are we going to erase his entire generation and all of the generations before?

        Year zero, here we come!

        *Seriously, have commies come up with a new concept….ever? Or are they just hanging new words on the same old stale failures they have been peddling for 150 years?

    3. Yeah, he said some really racist shit in public, but he’s dead so it’s not like we can give him an editorial position with the NYT or anything…

    4. J. Frank Parnell

      The actor described the characters in the latter film with a homophobic slur, then went on to extol the virtues of sexual intercourse between men and women.

      Huh. I heard he was a fag.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        That’s right, you boys.

      2. R C Dean

        went on to extol the virtues of sexual intercourse between men and women.

        So are we officially opposed to cis-hetero sex now?

    5. Rhywun

      This is what you get for naming it after a celebrity rather than a selfless politician like usual.

      1. Tonio

        [golf clap]

  16. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    “Sloopy linked an article about HK’s current turmoil which mentioned an unconfirmed viral video of a protester being shot in the chest this morning. That’s been confirmed (TW: video from multiple angles at multiple speeds autoplay after the link)”

    Man, those China tariffs really really piss me off.

  17. Count Potato

    “An electronic badge can monitor workers’ conversations, posture and time spent in the toilet”

    https://twitter.com/TheEconomist/status/1178429549689921536

    Who the hell needs to know my posture when I take a shit?

    1. Tres Cool

      The designers at SquattyPotty™ ?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Feet up on the door, hands braced against the walls?

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Did you have Chipotle?

    3. Not Adahn

      Depending on what it is, you may be automatically assigned training from HR, or your address and phone number will be submitted to the C-suite.

    4. Private Chipperbot

      Germans?

    5. Gadfly

      That badge looks to be easily removable. If I had that at my work, it would get a lot of high quality recordings of the inside of a desk drawer. Because I’m a great worker and always at my desk, of course. Eight hours straight, no breaks. Yes sir, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    6. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      Will the company deposit money in my Health Savings Account if I use proper posture?

    7. dorvinion

      Nothing new really.

      Way back in 2002 the small company I worked for was trying to be a contractor with Bloomberg LP to help them with some tax stuff. So the boss and I flew out to NYC to visit their main office in Manhattan and pitch our stuff to them in person.

      At their main office they had RFID readers at every door, the sort like stores use for loss control so you just walked through them, no need to touch the badge to the wall.

      As a person walked through the office their location was tracked. If you were looking for someone one of the inhouse software programs they developed allowed you to look up the last RFID post the person walked through.

      Considering how nanny Bloomberg is, its not surprising one of his companies would have such tracking.

    8. R C Dean

      See, that’s why you need Oxford commas!

      *sends link to Communications Dept. staffer who refuses to bend to my will*

    9. AlmightyJB

      How do you know when it’s time to quit your job.

  18. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    Scott Horton, Ron Paul, antiwar.com, and all small government libertarians who don’t blindly trust the intelligence community and weren’t stupid enough to fall for Russia Fever Dreams are complicit!

    https://libertarianinstitute.org/blog/another-giant-non-scandal-toldyaso/

    https://original.antiwar.com/daniel_lazare/2019/09/27/another-day-another-scandal-what-the-trump-ukraine-collusion-is-really-about/

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      https://original.antiwar.com/paul/2019/09/30/impeachment-or-cia-coup/

      “Ron Paul is a Trumpist!” cried the people who read Max Boot religiously now because orange man bad

    2. Drake

      I notice TOS isn’t on your list… They got on their knees and swallowed it whole and Shikha doubled down today.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        When it comes to the intelligence community, TOS is always on their knees ready to swallow.

        I literally can’t think of the last time they were ever suspicious of the foreign policy establishment. There is a myth now that people insist that you believe that libertarians universally opposed the Iraq War since the beginning. In reality, most of the senior staff at CATO and virtually everyone at Reason supported the war. Only when it became unpopular did they start asking questions. Reason and CATO exist to prove the “nine out of ten” axiom to be correct.

      2. Tonio

        “They got on their knees and swallowed it whole and Shikha doubled down today.”

        Shikha vs Tonio Blow-Off, Live on Glibs PPV. Proceeds go to The Human Fund ™ – Money for People.

        1. Jarflax

          I didn’t think Dalmia ate meat?

          1. Drake

            Probably not. She’s a consistent disappointment.

  19. Drake

    We were just talking about the Swedish climate kid. Apparently the great Dan Simmons tweeted some harsh things about the people who brainwashed and handler her – and got the usual backlash.

    Larry Correia then comes off the top rope like Randy Savage on the internet woke scolds. I need to read more from both those guys.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      “Jean-Daniel Breque on September 25, 2019 at 8:38 pm said:
      True story.
      I was once one of Dan Simmons’s French translators. I translated “Carrion Comfort”, “Phases of Gravity”, “Le Styx coule à l’envers” (“Prayer to Broken Stones”, with a different TOC), “The Crook Factory” and “The Terror”. I thought we were friends. When he came to France, he was a guest at my home. In 2000, for the World Horror Convention in Denver, I was a guest at his home. He asked me to contribute to his website.
      Then, gradually, I saw him for what he was. His website forum soon became a hotbed for racist, fascistic rants. I couldn’t in all conscience keep contributing to it. I told him so.
      His answer: since he couldn’t trust me anymore, he would write into his French publishing contracts a clause forbidding me to translate his books.
      This hurt me as a professional–thanks God the French publishers rallied on and told me, “You don’t work for him, you work for us”. (Dan Simmons’s current French publisher also publishes Margaret Atwood and Ken Follett; no complaint here.)
      So I moved on.”

      You call someone a racist and didn’t want to contribute to his work and then are hurt when they don’t want to work with you?

      What am I missing here?
      And given the backlash Greta Thunberg gets from dumbells all over the world, I can’t say I’m surprised.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Scrap the last sentence.

    2. Just bought a couple of Simmon’s books. Ellen Datlow can go fuck herself.

      1. Sean

        I ordered a copy of Hyperion.

        1. The Bearded Hobbit

          I ordered a copy of Hyperion

          I did, also.

          1. violent_k

            So did I. Fuck these people.

          2. R C Dean

            Good book. I still get chills about the Shrike and the Steel Tree.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      I think I’ll buy Hyperion.

      Because.

    4. Rhywun

      Seriously though, check out Ilium and Olympos. They’re nuts. Dan Simmons is a bad ass.

      Been meaning to. I love the Hyperion books.

    5. Jarflax

      Krasnovia forever!

  20. Count Potato

    “UPDATE: We’ve been able to confirm that @TeamYouTube’s #YouTube2020ElectionBlacklist is still blocking our content for some searches, but ONLY in the United States. The implications are alarming…”

    https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/1178837180514353152

    1. Count Potato

      “My channel pops up when you search for my name, but my videos do not.

      Lliterally none of those videos are mine.”

      https://twitter.com/TheLaurenChen/status/1177738972140843008

      1. Jarflax

        But I am assured that there are many right wing news sources available and anyone who complains that this is not true is a whiny socialist.

        1. “Proggy” not socialist. And I apologized for the slur but I’m still right about the media.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            You’re right in the sense that you recite the correct talking point. Not in the sense that your position is tethered in reality or is true in any sense of the word.

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Imagine living through the Iraq War and the Trump presidency and concluding “there is no uniformity in talking points among the corporate press”. It takes a true leap of faith to reach that conclusion.

          3. MikeS

            …or a narrative to maintain.

          4. Never said that and I admit that the left wing media is biased, my contention is with the “Nobody’s reporting” shtick. ‘Nobodie’s reporting this thing that I have dozens of links to’ falls flat to my ears.

          5. Fatty Bolger

            How did you find those links?!! We’re sorry. We’ll try to do better in the future. – Google

          6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            You are quibbling over “right” and “left” and pretending like that’s diversity as they mouth the same talking points.

            That is peak stupid. That’s like freshman year comms level stupid.

            There is no diversity of thought within the corporate press. And just because the WSJ and the NYT disagree over where we should bomb and for what reason, does not equal a diversity of thought.

          7. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            “Gee Wiz, the WSJ opinion pages and the NYT opinion pages both say Russia is out to get me. Well, it must be true because they are of different political persuasions.”

            That’s not a smart take. I’m old enough to remember when people who thought so simplistically were rightly mocked.

          8. There aren’t right wing news outlets?

          9. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Your argument is that there are different opinion alternatives within the corporate press which is laughably false. Embarrassingly false and divorced from reality. I’m sure in most quarters you would get a pat on the head for such a hilariously bad analysis, but that shit just sounds stupid to me.

          10. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Quick, find me ONE corporate press outlet that supported an end to our involvement in Syria.

            You can quibble over “right” and “left”, but ultimately what you are suggesting, that the corporate press is not monolithic, is dumb. Really, really, really dumb.

          11. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I don’t think there is a more oblivious blue pilled statement then “the corporate press offers a variety of opinions”.

          12. within the corporate press Yes, That’s what I said when I said there are plenty right wing news outlets reporting these things that “Nobody’s reporting™”

            This is what a I love about this arguement it always follow a pattern – “All cats are black” …. “This cat’s not” … “Oh, I meant house cats”…’This house cat’s yellow”…”Oh, I define house cats as cats that are black.”

          13. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            “within the corporate press Yes, That’s what I said when I said there are plenty right wing news outlets reporting these things that “Nobody’s reporting™””

            It’s possible that I misunderstood your argument, but from what I recall you were arguing that the existence of Fox News along with MSNBC showed that there was diversity within the press. And that is a pretty weak and hilariously bad argument.

          14. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            And, after all, who can deny that MSNBC and Fox News are TOTALLY different from one another. Just because they mouth the same outrage and regurgitate the same talking points doesn’t mean that they’re not different.

            They have just enough superficial differences to allow us to pretend.

          15. Rufus the Monocled

            You just have to watch those videos that cull together the word or phrase of the day or week mainstream outlets use to know they get their marching orders from somewhere and seem to all coordinate their message.

            How hard can it be for them to do say anyway? They’re a lousy clique; an old boys network.

            ‘Hey Jim at NBC! It’s Pat from ABC. Listen, the word of the day is ‘Pounce’. Yup. We all agreed. even Janice at CBS!’

            Something like that.

          16. BakedPenguin

            ^ What Rufus said. Those are impressive examples of Newspeak.

          17. Ozymandias

            Hyperbole – I think TGA captures much of my sentiment – and experience – with the “corporate press.” I meant no offense, but I supposed that everyone around here understand that the Press (call it the Mainstream Media) all “eat from the same trough.” It’s how they work because (1) they’re fundamentally lazy, (2) they all run in the same circles, (3) chasing the same stories, (4) for the same audience. It doesn’t require a conspiracy to get them on the same topic, blind ideology solves that problem. But if you needed proof of that, just look at how many people in the Media used to work for either major party/candidate’s political campaign and look at the Podesta emails. You’ll see outright “collusion” if you’re not partisan.
            And someone remind me how even-handed and professionally disinterested was the election night coverage, as I flipped through every. single. channel. and it started to become clear the TRUMPENFUHRER!!!! would become President.

          18. Jarflax

            Sorry didn’t mean to harp on the insult. I’m not actually worried about that. I am sarcastically disputing your point. The fact that the stories and videos exist is not a valid response to the point that they are being deindexed and hidden from any public searches. This needs to be called out constantly and loudly. The left is deliberately trying to silence dissent.

          19. Not Adahn

            No, no you’re not.

            Claiming that AM radio somehow balances out the broadcast TV networks is hilarabad.

            Oh yeah, for some reason you declined to include broadcast TV. But you did include AM radio. I wonder why?

          20. I never claimed that there was some balance, I said there are plenty of right wing outlets. Never said anything about a balance and I don’t give a fuck about ‘balance’, it ain’t up to me or you or anyone else to determine what the “Balance” is or what it should be.

          21. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            But you do concede that it is “up to” social media companies that are intricately joined with the intelligence community

          22. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            This insistence to ignore reality and accept the talking point as the word of God, is framed as “hey, I’m not being partisan” when in actuality it sounds more like “the establishment is right and anyone who questions it is wrong”.

          23. Rufus the Monocled

            No news services and affiliates are picking up anything from Fox or Rush. If they do, it’s to mock them or run a story about how NBC misrepresents something he said.

            That’s why whenever you talk to someone, they’re merely sprouting the ‘main narrative’ and have no clue about other views. You can bet your bottom dollar they’re more likely to have a ‘liberal slant’ on things. The entire system from academia, media to pop culture is mostly run by liberal progressives.

          24. They can try, it’s their site after all, I assume the markets will settle it. Gotta say I’m amazed that the simple statement that there are news outlets reporting on these things people like to pretend aren’t being reported has led to “The Hyperbole is a tool of establishment Big Media” fuck, I don’t even own a television.

          25. Rufus the Monocled

            I agree the premise that ‘it’s not being reported’ is BS. Everything is out there. It’s just how it gets magnified or sensationalized or prioritized. For example, one of the best articles on Obama’s shenanigans in Iran was from Politico. Not exactly a right-wing site.

            But I think it’s wishful thinking to some extent to not think or believe the filters of media go through the liberal lense where popular sentiment is concerned.

          26. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            You’re not a “tool of big media”, you’re just reciting a stupid talking point because it’s fashionable. Which makes you a better libertarian than I

            What’s strange is that you once believed that foreign governments operating Facebook pages were “election interference” (as fashion commanded you to recite), but now you must pretend as if a social media company manipulating who can and cannot be heard on their platform is totally not election interference.

            I don’t know what mental gymnastics you must make to justify these contradictory positions to yourself, but I’m sure you’ll default to the fashionable explanation

          27. You’re not a “tool of big media”, you’re just reciting a stupid talking point because it’s fashionable

            Yeah not seeing the difference, if you believe that’s what I’m doing then go ahead and call me a ‘tool’ I can take it. You probably have a better memory than I, but I don’t recall arguing that Facebook post were interference, I recall mocking the – “the Russians weren’t interfering with us and anyways we interfere with elections all the time, everyone interferes with everyone, but the Russians didn’t this time” bit. Maybe I did what you’re saying ,I don’t remember, it doesn’t sound like me but I also drink and shit post a lot so maybe I did. I’m sure you’ll have the screen caps to prove me wrong.

          28. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            That was a hilarious response. “I didn’t say Russia was interfering in our elections, I just mocked people who didn’t believe that Russia was interfering in our elections”. Totally different, I guess.

            I’m not going to call you a “tool”, because that would mean that your position is meant to be of use to someone. As it stands, you just can’t stomach being out of fashion. That’s not useful. Just sad.

          29. Waiting on the screen caps.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      I’m old enough to remember when using social media to interfere in elections (which has no definition, but is meant to be super spooky) was seen as “criminal”.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        FYI: Spooks literally run these social media companies

        https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/twitter-suspends-accounts-for-propaganda-has-literal-propagandist-as-middle-east-executive-55be5467f28c

        FTA:

        Middle East Eye’s Ian Cobain has published an exclusive titled “Twitter executive for Middle East is British Army ‘psyops’ soldier”, exposing the fact that Twitter’s senior editorial executive for Europe, the Middle East and Africa also works for an actual, literal propaganda unit in the British military called the 77th Brigade. Which is mighty interesting, considering the fact that Twitter constantly suspends accounts from non-empire-aligned nations based on the allegation that they are engaging in propaganda.

        “The senior Twitter executive with editorial responsibility for the Middle East is also a part-time officer in the British Army’s psychological warfare unit,” Cobain writes. “Gordon MacMillan, who joined the social media company’s UK office six years ago, has for several years also served with the 77th Brigade, a unit formed in 2015 in order to develop ‘non-lethal’ ways of waging war. The 77th Brigade uses social media platforms such as Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, as well as podcasts, data analysis and audience research to wage what the head of the UK military, General Nick Carter, describes as ‘information warfare’.”

        1. Count Potato

          Which is why Info Wars was the first to go.

    3. wdalasio

      Oh, but they’re not a publisher and have no responsibility whatsoever for the material they choose to publish.

  21. Fatty Bolger

    The Hyperloop Cometh

    The world’s first Hyperloop is likely to be built in India and construction will start at the end of next year, Virgin Hyperloop One CEO Jay Walder told Yahoo Finance.

    1. Drake

      Think how fast we’ll be transported to the camps.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        Transporter, Dis-integrator.

        Toe-may-toe, toe-mah-toe.

    2. BakedPenguin

      The world’s first Hyperloop is likely to be built in India and construction will start at the end of next year

      I really had to restrain myself from not making a vindaloop joke.

      1. Spartacus

        You’re just doing it to curry favor.

  22. Count Potato

    “It’s nice to see some outreach to the libertarian community every now and then”

    https://twitter.com/unrealAnnaAdams/status/1178842640638455814

    1. Bobarian LMD

      Response tweet — “We need to increase the number of vaccinations in order to create more libertarians.”

  23. Williamson is truly off the chain today – https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/for-democrats-taxes-arent-about-revenue/

    Longer and better than his average piece. #TaxationisTheft

    1. Urthona

      I agree with him about 85% of the time. Well above the average.

  24. “We feel as if we’re being put in the dunces’ corner by city types who come and tell us how things should be in the countryside,” one of the protest organisers, Mark van den Oever, told the Trouw website

    Just the reaction my Dutch relatives during, and right after WWII. People don’t understand how much the rural Dutch hate the people in the cities. I wonder i my one farming relative was in one these parades. I’ll have to check Facethingy later and see. BTW – he loves his John Deere tractor.

    1. Jarflax

      You know who else sent a bunch of city intellectuals out to tell the peasants in the country how to farm?

      1. Tres Cool

        Monsanto ?

      2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        The Peace Corps?

    2. Chipwooder

      George: What is Holland?

      Jerry: Whaddya mean, ‘what is Holland’? It’s a country next to Belgium.

      George: No, that’s the Netherlands.

      Jerry: Holland IS the Netherlands!

      George: *agitated* Well, then who are the Dutch?!

      1. Sensei

        Cracks me up every time.

    3. Tell me about it. I’m in the Catskill Park preserve, and the watershed for one of New York City’s reservoirs.

      1. Timeloose

        I’m sure I’ve rode past your house in the last few months. I’m in Downsville several times a year.

      2. Jarflax

        Well get out dude, no one wants your cooties.

  25. grrizzly

    Farmers reacted angrily to claims that they were largely responsible for a nitrogen oxide emissions problem.

    The European farmers used to demonstrate against imported food. But now they are protesting this nonsense!

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Things will only get worse. Carbon laws are better understood as “ewww…the poors” laws. The Yellow Vest movement in France was only the beginning.

  26. Count Potato

    “Look let’s be honest, @realDonaldTrump’s Twitter account should be suspended.”

    https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1178832448312025089

    Christ, what an asshole.

  27. grrizzly

    Hopefully, nobody roots for the spurs here.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      *puts bag over head*

    2. Rhywun

      Nope!

    3. BakedPenguin

      That was brutal.

  28. Chipwooder

    So I need to gripe, and I choose to bother you people with it because I don’t want to bother the people I actually have to see regularly. This is really long and boring, but I feel better getting it out of my system.

    My grandmother died suddenly in 1990. At the time, my youngest uncle was 23 and still lived at home with her. Somehow (I don’t know the particulars, I was a kid then) the house remained in Grandma’s name as if she were still alive. For YEARS. My uncle JJ kept making the payments, and it was eventually paid off while still in her name. In 2007, mom and her siblings (all eight of them at that time) all got together to resolve things. Grandma died without a will, so they all had equal claim to the house. For a short time the title had all nine of their names, then (I was told) that they all agreed to transfer their share of the house to JJ since he had been living there since 1980.

    In the meantime….much has happened in this formerly very tight-knit family. JJ has a long term girlfriend who is a)completely nuts b)violent c)a drunkard. In a drunken rage, she once brained him with a beer bottle while he was asleep in bed, resulting in 14 stitches in his scalp. He still refused to dump her, and wouldn’t press charges. Anyway, he and another uncle, Rob, are construction foremen. While JJ maintains his residence in Florida, where he has always lived, he and Rob have been in northern Cali for several years due to a long-term job renovating Bank of America branches. For all this time, Crazy Drunk Lady has lived rent free in Grandma’s old house. This alone pisses my mom off to no end.

    Another uncle, Jimmy (yeah, big family, mom has four brothers (one now deceased) and four sisters) still lives in that same town in Florida. Due to his divorce and his crushing alimony for life (fuck you, Florida) and child support, he has had to live with his sister, my aunt Roseanne, for a while now. Mom has now decided that Crazy Drunk needs to get the fuck out of Grandma’s house so Jimmy can live there, since JJ isn’t coming back to Florida any time soon. Mom also revealed to me that the house actually is NOT in JJ’s name, but in uncle Rob’s name for some reason. So, she’s leaning on Rob to let her serve eviction papers on Crazy Drunk – mom works for the local sheriff’s department so she knows how all this is done. Rob is avoiding her calls now. So mom is starting to play nasty. She’s leaving angry messages bringing up the fact that Rob, JJ, and another aunt Joan (AND Joan’s deadbeat son) all owe yet another aunt, Mary, a shitload of money. They’ve run up credit card bills on MK’s cards (because they all had lousy credit), “borrowed” money that they’ve never paid back, etc. Mary is far from rich – she recently lost her legal secretary job when the lawyer she worked for retired. She is juggling working at a grocery store and waitressing at Cracker Barrel now, and almost never has a day off, She’s 65 years old, so another secretary job is unlikely, and has no family of her own to help her (never married, no kids).

    So now there’s a full blown family feud brewing – Rob, JJ, and Joan (mom: “They’re all in cahoots!”) versus mom, Mary, and Roseanne, and mom is now enlisting, yes, yet another aunt, Helen. Jimmy, who’s in the middle of this, obviously would like to live at Grandma’s but has always been an easygoing peacemaker type and feels very uncomfortable with all this. On top of all that, my parents are very close with Rob’s daughter, who lived at their house for several years after she graduated college, and I suspect mom’s going to end up torching that relationship as collateral damage, which I know would hurt everyone involved. I get why mom wants what she wants – it IS selfish of JJ to let his lunatic girlfriend live in the house rather than his own brother in need, JJ has turned into a crazy person himself in recent years – one of those people who screams constantly about Trump on facebook, and accuses big business of deliberately giving people cancer. It IS shitty of the three of them to have leeched off Mary for years despite her own hardships. All those things are true, and yet mom is turning herself inside out with anger over something she can’t really do anything about, and driving a big rift among them all. Maybe the rift was going to happen anyway, but it’s sad because they all used to be so close. Crazy, but close. And she won’t even tell me about any of this – I had to learn it all from my sister. Now I know why she seems exhausted and upset all the time.

    I have no answers, and no questions either for that matter. It’s just all sad to me because I do love them all.

    1. Crazy drunk who has no claim on the house needs to get out.

    2. R C Dean

      Mom has now decided that Crazy Drunk needs to get the fuck out of Grandma’s house so Jimmy can live there, since JJ isn’t coming back to Florida any time soon. Mom also revealed to me that the house actually is NOT in JJ’s name, but in uncle Rob’s name for some reason.

      Rob’s call. Mom’s made her request, so her part in this is done.

      So mom is starting to play nasty.

      Mom needs to shut it. Everybody else needs to tell her who lives in Rob’s house is Rob’s business, not hers and not any of theirs.

      But if families were rational, well . . . .

      1. Chipwooder

        I mostly agree. Morally, I agree with mom, but as there is nothing she can do legally, she’s just spinning her wheels and there’s no point.

        Now, as to the money owed Mary, the condo Joan lives in, also in the same area in Florida, is actually in Mary’s name. Yes, Mary should have never let her siblings take advantage of her like this, but that ship has long since sailed….Mary can be a very difficult person to be around because she knows everything and will tell you that constantly, but she has a big heart and would do anything for family. Dad and I have urged Mary to tell Joan that either Joan starts paying her the money she’s owed, or Mary’s going to sell the condo. Now, that would be truly scorched earth, but it’s the only way she’ll ever get any of the money back, and she really needs it now.

        1. R C Dean

          I swear, I need a chart to even begin to follow this. I picture a wall in your house covered in pictures with different colored yarn connected different pictures, and sticky notes everywhere.

    3. Jarflax

      Do your estate planning early and update it with every life event. ‘The family will work it out” always turns into a mess.

      1. Chipwooder

        Yes, although in her defense Grandma did die unexpectedly. She was only 59 and had an undiagnosed blood clotting disorder.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Run and hide.

      Sorry man.

    5. CPRM

      That situation is very familiar to me. Except I guess I’m the JJ without the crazy gf? (And it’s not my mom’s house house, but my grandma’s). It gets real annoying having people tell me what to do with the house I’ve lived in for 16 years and constantly having to walk a line among relatives.

      I got no answers for you. I choose beer.

    6. Lachowsky

      Never get into financial obligations with family. Just dont do it. And never lend money to family that you have any expectation of getting back.

      1. Yusef

        never lend money with an expectation of return, period

      2. Jarflax

        Give all the gifts you want. Loans are business dealings and should be treated as such.

      3. Suthenboy

        Bingo. You can give money to family, never lend.
        As for the property mess, I have. seen hundreds of those. I have seen families tear themselves apart and have irreparable separations over property worth less than 20K. It is ridiculous how nasty people can get when sentiment enters into something that should be just business.

        My position: I only have one brother. I am not trading him for land or money. Land and money comes and goes, a brother is blood. Blood cant be replaced. So far he and I see eye to eye on that. I expect no problems.

        All I can say Chipwooder is that the only option for you to get the least shit dumped on you is for you to stay out of it as much as. you can.

    7. Rufus the Monocled

      Sounds like an episode of Eight is Enough but darker.

      1. SO they don’t spend their days like bright and shiny new dimes?

    8. Gadfly

      So I need to gripe, and I choose to bother you people with it because I don’t want to bother the people I actually have to see regularly.

      So as your internet therapist, I give you this advice: tonight, go out and do something (or someone) that you love. It won’t fix your problem, but it will make you feel better.

      Also, R C Dean and Lachowsky are right.

    9. So my first response was, “Go get ’em, Chipwooder and MomChipwooder!” I understand your concern. Your mom’s having a hard time and you want to help.

      My second response was, “Well, my family is stepping in to my life to help me, but they are doing it in a respectful and loving way.” But that doesn’t seem to apply to your situation.

      My third and final response is a simple MYOB. Don’t take that stress on yourself and maybe suggest to MomChipwooder to also MYOB. Is it your concern? No. Is it her concern? No. Should one particularly care about familial relationships going all to hell? No.

      What IS of concern, however, is blood pressure and stress. DO. NOT. NEED. Not your circus, not your monkeys. There have been plenty of times in my life I’ve regretted involving myself. There has never been a time in my life I regretted minding my own business.

      1. Fourscore

        Lately, outsiders have been advising me as to how to solve my 53 year old daughter’s problems. I’ve explained to them that she is a big girl, knows what to do and any interference on my part may be .

        She will solve her problems, perhaps not to my liking but life goes on… My job is to support her decisions and love her.

        1. Fourscore

          …may be wrong anyway.

  29. R C Dean

    it’s pretty clear I’m going to get a little quid pro quo

    You seem to be making some assumptions about Brett.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Friends helping friends

    2. jesse.in.mb

      Whether or not drunk-Brett is surprisingly heteroflexible probably doesn’t matter as much as the implicit extortion aspect.

      1. Jarflax

        I see a freely negotiated contract. Links for hire.

    3. R C Dean

      I debated about bolding “little” in my comment, and decided to go for subtlety instead.

      Mental note: Don’t go for subtlety.

      1. jesse.in.mb

        There’s a time and a place for subtlety, but Glibertarians is not it.

  30. Count Potato

    “If you want to understand how the ? sexy peach emoji ? has come to represent both the potential impeachment of President Trump and a butt, you must first look to the ancient Sumerians”

    https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1179012252357320705

    Because the Sumerians were a bunch of assholes owned by a book salesman turned Bond villain?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      News you can wipe your ass with

      1. Bobarian LMD

        The Washington Post?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Also “Democracy Dies where the Sun Never Shines”

      2. Rhywun

        This seems on par with the quality of their usual reporting, doesn’t it?

    2. Chipwooder

      Who says sexy butts have to be peach colored, racist?

      1. Count Potato

        Sorry about your family problems. It was just too confusing for me to comment.

  31. Florida Man

    Does anyone have a router they like? I need to cover about 3500 sqft. I’d rather not do a mesh network.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      Unifi.

      I have a gateway and 3 access points. I get gigabit speeds anywhere in the house.

      1. Sensei

        Technically mesh. But one Unifi wouldn’t be.

        I use OpenMesh, but they got bought out and are no longer free. And for privacy conscious Glibs no good. Unifi will let you administer locally. Downside is cost and complexity. But folks who bite the bullet love them.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          They’re all backhauled over Cat6 to the switch. No repeaters.

          1. Sensei

            Got it. I do the same.

      2. Florida Man

        Thanks

      3. Florida Man

        Is it dual band? My irrigation controller can only connect to 2.4 gigahertz.

        1. Sensei

          Depends on the model, but yes.

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Yes 2.4 and 5, AC. Backwards compatible.

    2. dorvinion

      For that big of a house you’d probably want two wireless routers with one in bridge mode and preferably connected by wire to the other router.

      Mesh is probably easier and more plug and play, though again it would be nice to run wires between each device.

      Personally I use a NetGear Nighthawk router for a house that is about 900sq foot per floor. The model I’m using is an old version AC1900.
      I can get a 2.4ghz old school wifi signal down in my garage about 40ft away on the opposite side of my house through multiple walls and a floor sufficient to watch video, usually.

      1. Florida Man

        Thanks

        1. dorvinion

          If you can get it in the middle of the house, its possible that one router may work, but I’d be prepared to get a second.

          Probably won’t get much if any coverage in your yard, but then you may not want it anyways.

          In my own use case I’d really be better served by moving my router to the middle of my house. I’m just too lazy to run more cat 6 because it works well enough.

          1. Florida Man

            I just tons of cat6 for my security cameras. I really don’t want to do anymore.

      2. Sensei

        You can run things like Unifi as a mesh with the backhaul wired. So you will get full wireless speed and seemless hand of from access point to access point.

        Once you get it set up it’s wonderful as it is similar to what is done in large businesses.

        1. Florida Man

          I just need the east side of my house covered, because my master and irrigation are in dead spots. The rest of the house is good. Mesh is probably going to be my best bet, I just had a poor experience with a Netgear extender, but the unifi seems more comprehensive.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’ll also recommend Unifi

      1. Florida Man

        Ordered.

    4. I. B. McGinty

      DeWalt. And Makita.

      1. Mad Scientist

        I have a Porter Cable I really love.

      2. Florida Man

        I have Bosch and Milwaukee

      3. I really like the Bosch I bought for the crokinole board build, I highly recommend.

        1. Jarflax

          Was it an Earthly Delight?

      4. Ancient Craftsman.

      5. R C Dean

        Dammit, late again.

        The hell with it; I’ll post anyway.

        Does anyone have a router they like?

        This one gets good reviews.

        1. Jarflax

          I’m glad someone did that.

    5. Bobarian LMD

      DeWalt makes a pretty good one.

    6. Suthenboy

      *Ugh*

      “Does anyone have a router they like?”

      I immediately thought…Ryobi but I recommend the large table router known as a shaper for that kind of job. 3500 sq ft. is a lot of floor. Money for quality they are…..wait….whut? Oh, not that kind of router.

      Get off of my lawn!!!!

  32. Gadfly

    Florida Boy Man: 15-year-old died protecting family home, 5-year-old sister from intruder, police say

    Sad story. Sounds like a brave kid. I wonder why they haven’t charged the burglar for murder yet.

    1. R C Dean

      They’ve got a charge good enough to jail him. They can always add on the murder charge later. They do that a lot.

      1. Gadfly

        OK. That makes sense.

        1. Suthenboy

          That is what they are up to. Don’t worry, they are gonna pile on hard and heavy. If I was a betting man I would put my money on the death penalty. It isn’t like they will find a jury hard to round up.

          Speaking of which, I got a summons for jury duty. Oct. 21.

  33. Gadfly

    Friendly reminder, guys: creating traffic never ever ever brings people around to your cause.

    Amen to this.

    1. R C Dean

      Street protests of any kind are not meant to be persuasive. They are meant to be some combination of inconvenient an intimidating.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        A show of numbers is ALWAYS a threat of force.

        Machiavelli said something to that effect.

      2. creech

        Sure, but Vietnam war protests were also recruitment drives to advertise to other young folks and get them to join the fun. Most small protests are nothing more than advertising to show similarly thinking folks that they aren’t alone.

        1. Jarflax

          advertising to show similarly thinking folks that they aren’t alone.

          Vietnam era protests were advertising to show a bunch of young men that there were hippy chicks waiting to sleep with them if they joined the protests. I’m not sure how this applies today.

          1. Suthenboy

            I am not sure either since all of the ANTIFA guys I have seen are poster boys for incels.

  34. Gadfly

    Babies in the womb have lizard-like hand muscles

    It says that these muscles are retained for the thumb but lost for the other fingers, giving the thumb its unique dexterity. And that a similar process happens for the toes. Interesting stuff. Sounds to me like the process builds all the phalanges identically at first and then refines them into their proper roles.

    1. Rhywun

      I’m reminded of a scene in a fun Piers Anthony book where a human is reconstituted from soup and goes through a series of evolutionary phases, with bits like this appearing and disappearing throughout while his friends look on.

  35. Count Potato

    This guy is now my second-favorite African.

    “Kamal Harris (@KamalaHarris ) is a Thot.”

    https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/1178910796077768721

    1. Bobarian LMD

      My response : Willie Brown can confirm.

    2. Gadfly

      What is that account? It’s verified, but it almost seems like a parody. I are confuzed.

    3. Yusef

      nice Photoshop, Fake!

  36. Yusef

    I still love this Tale,
    Speed Check,
    https://youtu.be/8AyHH9G9et0

    1. Jarflax

      That is good.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    “Diversity” for its own sake

    A judge has ruled in favor of Harvard University in a high-profile court case centered on Harvard’s consideration of race in admissions.

    Federal District Court Judge Allison D. Burroughs issued her decision Tuesday, saying that “Harvard’s admission program passes constitutional muster” and that “ensuring diversity at Harvard relies, in part, on race conscious admissions.”

    ——-

    Supporters of affirmative action fear that if this case makes it to the nation’s highest court, race-conscious admissions could be eliminated.

    “This has been kind of a beacon of civil rights policies in higher education that helped to transform student demographics, especially at elite institutions,” said Mitchell Chang, an education professor at the University of California, Los Angeles.

    If you’re not going to base admissions on merit, why not a lottery?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Bring on the appeals.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Imagine believing that linking the word “merit” with “Ivy League admissions” makes sense

    3. Rebel Scum

      “ensuring diversity at Harvard relies, in part, on race conscious admissions.”

      “Ensuring the niggers, spics, jew, etc. are not allowed in my establishment relies, in part, on race conscious service.” – Actual white-supremacist

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You know who else was race conscious?

      1. R C Dean

        Jesse Owens?

      2. Suthenboy

        Mario Andretti?

  38. Gadfly

    So apparently Net Neutrality is back in the news: a court case decided that the FCC was indeed empowered to scrap it (which, duh, they’re the ones who made it in the first place) but that it cannot bar states from implementing it themselves within their borders. Will be interesting to see how this plays out with a potential patchwork of regulations on the internet. Could be a good experiment, if nothing else.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Net Neutrality is truly the pet issue of retards.

      1. Spudalicious

        Pithy.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      The interstate commerce clause can stop you from planting wheat on your own fields, even if that wheat is not being sold across state lines or even within state lines. It’s strong enough to force you to buy healthcare insurance and regulate medical marijuana, but the interstate commerce clause stops being enforceable when it collides with the Progressive agenda.

      1. Jarflax

        Meh, to be fair I get mad when people borrow my favorite tools also.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          There is nothing more “interstate” than the internet, but net neutrality is fashionable and so I fully expect a new round of “let the states decide” from small government libertarians who want everything from marriage, to abortion, to public bathrooms nationalized

          1. Jarflax

            You are stepping on my joke!

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I ruined it with piss and vinegar

      2. Tonio

        I loom large, bitchez There is nothing I cannot do. /Commerce Clause

      3. Gender Traitor

        I’m absolutely NOT trying to quibble, TGA, but I think it’s even worse than you suggested:

        “The interstate commerce clause can stop you from planting wheat on your own fields, even if that wheat is not being sold across state lines or even within state lines.”

        From a cursory reading about the Filburn case, it doesn’t sound as if he even intended to sell his “excess” wheat.

        During the fall of 1940, he planted 23 acres of wheat which was to be used to make bread for his family, feed his livestock and provide seed for the following season.

        Yes, that all-powerful Interstate Commerce Clause can apply to activities that aren’t even commerce.

        (I have a passing interest in the case above and beyond the legal ramifications – I could easily walk to Filburn’s old house from mine.)

        1. Gender Traitor

          IOW, what Tonio said.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Filburn was a travesty and rightly deserves a place in legal hell right beside Dred Scott.

      4. R C Dean

        I’m baffled by how states regulating the internet doesn’t violate the Dormant Commerce Clause, even under a narrow reading of “interstate commerce”. It is absolutely a fundamental facility for interstate commerce, on par with roads and rails.

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          yup

  39. Don Escaped Texas

    MPD: safety trumps privacy (gimme back my survelliance authority!)

    A sealed motion was filed Sept. 25 by attorneys for the city (of Memphis), asking U.S. District Judge Jon P. McCalla for an “immediate modification” of the Kendrick Consent Decree, the 40-year-old decree that prohibits police from gathering surveillance on protesters. (This,) after a three-day trial in August 2018, (when) McCalla ruled last October that the city’s police department violated the decree when it conducted surveillance on protesters. The police actions included creating fake Facebook accounts to monitor protesters and putting the names of activists who required a police escort at City Hall on a “black list.”

    Some people literally are prohibited from personally attending to their legal business at city hall because of their political views, not because of any violence they’ve committed on city property.

    1. Tonio

      Decree has been in place for forty years. This is only an issue now because the po-po violated a consent decree. Why are the taxpayers paying the po-po to hang out on the facebook and create fake accounts?

      Yeah, I’m sorry local po-po. Real judges (ie federal) and real courthouse staffers (again, also federal) put up with this shit every fucking day. Because it’s only the nutjobs and the opinion printers and the sole practitioners who come in and push stuff over the counter. Perhaps a nutting-up would be in order?

  40. Gadfly

    Interesting article – European Millennials Are Not Like Their American Counterparts: Under-30s in Europe are more disposed than their parents are to view poverty as a result of an individual’s choice. Apparently recent surveys have shown that while European youngsters are generally more left-wing than their elders (same as Americans), on a few issues this is not the case (different from Americans).

    So why aren’t European young people as receptive to tax-and-redistribute ideas as their American counterparts? Perhaps because they know, from experience, that those policies can’t immediately fix what ails their countries.

    Many young Americans share Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s vision of democratic socialism as something that already exists in northern Europe. “What we have in mind and what my policies most closely resemble,” she told Anderson Cooper earlier this year, “are what we see in the U.K., in Norway, in Finland, in Sweden.”

    However, the young people who actually live in those countries have a less rose-tinted view of European welfare states. During the crisis, Europe’s young learned that the welfare state in practice provides a much bigger safety net for older voters than for younger ones.

    1. Jarflax

      So not a principled objection, just a “Mom and Dad took all the Other People’s Money and spent it so I am getting nothing”

      1. Yusef

        well it’s true, Fucking Boomers….

        1. Spudalicious

          It was noticed, what you did there.

  41. Rebel Scum

    This cunte.

    On Sept. 25, the Democrat-led U.S. House Judiciary Committee held a 3 ½ hour “hearing” entitled “Protecting America From Assault Weapons.” That framing of the issue underscored the erroneous notion that Americans need protection from inanimate objects, rather than from violent criminals who have and always will use any means at their disposal to harm innocent, defenseless people. It also revealed the unfortunate agenda of the proceedings, which was to emphasize politics and finger-pointing over any useful exploration of how Congress might take meaningful steps to improve public safety.

    The most startling claim of the proceedings came when Dr. RaShall Brackney, Chief of the Charlottesville Police Department in Virginia responded to a question from Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) about whether she would support a ban on hunting rifles. “I believe any weapon that can be used to hunt individuals should be banned,” Brackney replied.

    This admission seemed to indicate that Brackney would be open to the banning of any firearm – or even any weapon – whatsoever, since a criminal bent on “hunt[ing] individuals” could use virtually any firearm for that purpose.

    Dr. Brackney was given two opportunities by pro-gun committee members to walk back or provide more context for that statement. Instead, she dug in and reiterated the statement.

    Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.) even asked her directly, “Okay, so you then stand for the proposition to ban any type of firearm, because any firearm can be used and misused to kill people.”

    Rather than answering the question directly, Dr. Brackney began talking about police and the social contract. Rep. Steube tried asking again, only to be interrupted by an anti-gun committee member who tried to raise a point of order. She claimed that Rep. Steube was “attacking” the witness – when in fact he was merely trying to get a straight answer – and requested that he “tone down his words.” That exchange took up most of Steube’s remaining time for questioning, which was not reinstated.

    Again, however, Rep. Steube tried, to clarify, asking, “Any type of weapon … that can be used to kill people should be banned?” “Sir,” Brackney replied, “you’re adding the word ‘type.’ I said ‘any weapons,’ so that’s my answer. Thank you.”

    *Reads article 1, section 13 of the constitution of the commonwealth*

    No I think you are inaccurate there as far as what the government is actually allowed to do on the matter. The right of self-defense is inherent in life and it’s founding charter states in plain english that the government cannot disarm the population. I’ll add that the right to self-defense extends to defense of property and, if necessary, the State. Therefor on this matter the State may like to tread lightly, or perhaps not at all.

    1. Rebel Scum

      And I like how she says ‘weapons’, generally. Pretty much anything can be a weapon.

  42. Rebel Scum

    Is someone threatening the Judge? Or has he been replaced with an impostor?

    Fox News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano said Tuesday on “Fox & Friends” that there was “no there there,” on 2020 Democratic presidential candidate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden’s Ukraine business ties.

    Co-host Ainsley Earhardt asked, “What happens with Joe Biden and his son? Are they going to open that up investigation on both of them?”

    Napolitano said, “You know, it depends on who you talk to. If you talk to Rudy Giuliani, he has a lot of evidence of inappropriate behavior by the former vice president and his son. Yet, the prosecutors in Ukraine and even prosecutors here in the United States say there’s no there there.”

    Sleepy Joe said what he did on camera at a conference. I’ve seen it. It is on the interwebs. And that is forever.

    1. Spudalicious

      Ukraine says just the opposite. John Solomon at the Hill hs over 400 documents that say the opposite. Judge Nap needs a nap.

      1. Jarflax

        I don’t understand the people dismissing the Biden allegations as crazy conspiracy stuff. Why is it even sightly difficult to believe that the son got his job because his Dad was VP, and Dad used his position to protect the son? This plays out every day in every level of Government. Hell not just Government, the valedictorian of my class got caught with cocaine on the Harvard model UN trip senior year by the chaperone. Nothing happened to him, no suspension, no nothing. Other kids who got caught with drugs anywhere near school events, including prom got expelled. The powers that be protect their own, always have, always will.

        1. Spudalicious

          The narrative is what matters. Orange Man Bad. Anything else is a distraction.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          The idea that Joe Biden is some sort of principled politician that couldn’t possibly have his hand in the cookie jar is laughable.

        3. Rhywun

          This guy got 4 years for helping get a few hundred thou tossed at his son.

          The funny thing is, although many of the witnesses had been wired by the government in their dealings with Skelos, the indictment never once quotes words of Skelos that allegedly constitute the “pressure,” nor does the indictment state anything specific that Skelos said or did that gave the CEO the “belief” that if he did not continue to employ Adam there would be “adverse action.” Was it just a purely subjective understanding?

      2. Mister Napolitano. He’s not currently a judge.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      For someone who was discharged from the military for cocaine in his system to then land a $50,000 a month job in a field that he has no experience in is totally normal

      1. Spudalicious

        The China deal is even worse.

      2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        People, typically those who suffer from TDS, like to play the “what if Obama had done this” game showing how they’re totally not insane (despite all evidence to the contrary), but an apt analogy would be “what if Ivanka got a $50,000 a month job to work an industry where she had no experience while her father were president? Do you think the corporate press would just shrug and not investigate that?”

        Hyperbole, where are you to tell us about all the diversity that exists in the press while FOX recites the NYT talking point?

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Come on, tell us the opinion that fashion demands that you hold

          1. I’m really sorry I gored your goat. I hope you enjoy the crossword puzzle I made about TDS and hope you can find some humor in it.

        2. Pan Zagloba

          I stayed out of discussion above because formulating a response that wouldn’t be assholish was too much effort (TL;DR: literally arguments from 1992 about how Milosevic’s Serbia has full freedom of speech), but I’ll defend Hyperbole this time.

          He doesn’t recite talking points. He merely trolls by playing the devil’s advocate, using pedantry and goal post moving to…I dunno, have fun? Keep the board balanced? Make people rethink their biases?

          Much like with mtrueman over on TOS, I just learned to just skip over most his stuff (not alcohol-related ones, he seems to know his shit).

          1. Raven Nation

            “He merely trolls by playing the devil’s advocate”

            I’d say more like The Tenth Man.

            “if ten people are in a room, and nine agree on how to interpret and respond to a situation, the tenth man must disagree. His duty is to find the best possible argument for why the decision of the group is flawed”

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Brooks calls the Israeli doctrine adopted after the Yom Kippur War the strategy of “the tenth man.” In reality, it has the even more audacious title of “the devil’s advocate.”

            I mean I get the idea, but how useful is it? Your tenth man tells you “yes, everyone in the world is wrong but me” and you listen…because…?

          3. Raven Nation

            I think it’s more the idea of challenging (small?) leaps of logic.

            “Hussein is probably building nukes. He’s also a brutal dictator whose subjects will be happy to be rid of him.”

            “Why would Hussein build nukes? Who would he use them against? And he is brutal, but are you sure his subjects will welcome us?”

            I know that’s lame but, well, bourbon. But this is how I see Hyperbole. I rarely agree with him. BUT, his observations/snark/comments often drag me back from jumping on the bandwagon.

          4. Pan Zagloba

            Yeah, that’s what I was getting at.

            If you go “sure, your premises are correct, but here’s alternative set of conclusion you can draw from them”, there’s some value there in preventing groupthink. Or, “yes, you are describing a set of outcomes, but here is a (hopefully simpler) alternative set of explanations for said outcomes.”

            But most of the time, it’s the premises that are the problem. And then your tenth man is basically “sure, but what if flat Earth?”

    3. R C Dean

      Judge Nap probably has the worst case of TDS that I have seen, relative to where he started.

      I mean, TDS is pretty much business as usual for committed lefties and not unusual for their fellow-traveller respectable conservatives. But the Judge started out as pretty independent and reasonable, for a cable news talker.

      1. Raven Nation

        There’s a few guys at Cato who would say, “hold my beer.”

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          “Hi guys! Don’t forget about me! I hate Trump too!”

          /Sarwark

      2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        Everytime you criticize Judge Napolitano you always neglect to mention that the judge was the only person on TV to start questioning the Russia narrative and suggested that the intelligence community had coordinated with foreign intelligence agencies to set-up the whole investigation.

        He was roundly criticized by the entire press and TOS stopped running his articles. The judge was suspended by Fox after that.

        He never questioned the narrative again

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Pretty much. He gave up.

        2. R C Dean

          So he caught his TDS later rather than sooner.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            It’s not TDS. It’s survival.

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            There is a difference between TDS and just going along to get along.

            TDS is binary thought and everything wrong with the world is due to orange man.

            Going along to get along is just not challenging obvious TDS insanity.

            TDS is a legitimate mental disorder. Going along to get along is just fear

          3. Rebel Scum

            Does he have debts or something? It would take having literally no other choice for me to become that much of a sellout.

          4. Florida Man

            I gots to get paid. You gots to pay me in paper.
            /judge Nap.

          5. Gender Traitor

            What if I gots to get paid? What if you gots to pay me in paper?
            /Judge Nap.

            FTFY

          6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            What if what you wrote was genius?

          7. Florida Man

            ? better

    1. Rhywun

      Looks like they typically go GOP anyway. Will be interesting if they flip next year.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        This campaign and the impeachment noise are papering over the very middleclass vectors on which Trump rode into office. This economy is like Clemson: it can’t stay on top forever; the timing and regional impacts of any recession will be interesting. I find demographics and economics fascinating . . . pop politics not so much; it truly is popcorn season.

  43. Bob Boberson

    I’m depressed. Just got off the phone with former-libertarian Cop Brother. Amber Guyger is the real victim; She worked too long that day. The layout of the apartment complex was stupid. She feared for her life. She’ll get off on appeal.

    It breaks my heart to talk to him now. I care about my brother but it’s like watching a loved one buy into the ideology of the Hitler youth.

    1. Drake

      I killed a couple people after a long day last week. It happens.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I know, right? Everybody needs at least one murder pass.

        1. Bob Boberson

          I can’t break into my neighbors home and kill them once in a while?! I’m sorry, I thought this was America!

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Your brother is defending murder, because the murderer had the same gang colors.

      I have the same problem when talking with friends that are cops, but it’s still fucked up

      1. Bob Boberson

        It’s just naked tribalism. I wishI could say I’m shocked at his metamorphosis but sadly he has a capacity for cognitive dissonance thats truly extraordinary.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          You should never let politics interfere with your relationship with family, though.

          Friends on the other hand….

          1. Bob Boberson

            I’m not going to let it or push the issue. But like you said; he’s literally defending murder. It’s jarring to say the least.

          2. Urthona

            How do you know it wasn’t an accident?

          3. Bob Boberson

            I’m going to assume that was asked in earnest, if you were being sarcastic well……..

            At the end of the day, regardless of her motivations, a man who was peaceably eating ice cream in his own home was intruded upon and killed by an agent of the state. If you or I had done this we wouldn’t get any special dispensations and nobody would try to claim there are any circumstances that justify this., We could claim it was a mistake but we’re going away for a long time regardless. She rightly was held to the same standard without any thought paid to her work costume.

          4. Urthona

            I don’t know. I would also venture on the side of the force she used being unreasonable here.

            You just seem way too morally certain here. It actually is possible — albeit unlikely — that she thought she was in her apartment and some dangerous dude was coming at her. Would that be murder? dunno.

            To me It’s a messy situation and there’s really not any resolution here that makes me happy at all. To be so absolutely certain she’s a murderer and deserves those charges is just … I’m not entirely sure the brother here is that outrageous either. It’s not that cut and dry.

          5. Bob Boberson

            How’s that any different than the SWAT team that raids the wrong house, shoots the family dog and then wastes Dad as he goes for his gun? They thought they were raiding bad guys! They thought he was a threat! While I’m not arguing that intent never matters at some point people need to be held accountable for the results. Particularly agents of the state.

          6. Urthona

            I can agree with that.

            And the legal point RC Dean raised… was it reasonable for her to feel threatened in this situation? Would a normal person have?

            This is what moves me toward guilt. But murder. Wow. I didn’t think she would get the full enchilada.

          7. Bob Boberson

            As Rebel Scum posits I do wonder if this was done cynically knowing t would be easier to get her off on appeal. In a truly just world where politics and a corrupt justice system were not involved I’d cheer for a Manslaughter conviction with a sentence tipped toward the maximum allowable.

    3. Sensei

      Sorry dude…

      There are just certain things I don’t talk about with certain people. But it sucks when that is family.

      1. Bob Boberson

        Yeah. I was sorry I brought it up. I’ve gotten into it a little with him since he decided to strap on his jack-boots but if I ever really told him what I think I doubt we’d ever speak again.

        1. AlmightyJB

          I regret bring all sorts of things up just about anywhere outside of here. It’s not just your brother, it’s most people.

          1. Bob Boberson

            yep. Many people will defend the morally indefensible rather than risk reexamining their worldview

        2. Don Escaped Texas

          I call my sister on her birthday

          but she’s not a cop

    4. Rebel Scum

      I figured they over-charged her so she would get off (giggity). I am not familiar with all of the minute details of the case. So my position is that her convicted of first degree murder is wrong. I think it should be manslaughter. Someone correct me if necessary. But the whole thing is fucked and she will definitely get off (giggity) on appeal. I don’t suppose the manslaughter charge proposed to the jury (that’s a thing?) can still be applied on appeal.

    5. Tonio

      “She worked too long that day. The layout of the apartment complex was stupid. She feared for her life.”

      So, I’m a schoolteacher. And somehow I managed to walk into the wrong apartment after a long day of virtuously indoctrinating schoolchildren…

      1. Bob Boberson

        Clearly you need to go to your union rep about reduced hours and a big fat raise paid out by the tax cattle…..

  44. Urthona

    The most brutal totalitarian regime in human history just murdered some protesters in Hong Kong today.

    No big whoop.

    1. Urthona

      Regime probably wrong word. Nation.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        “Regime” is correct when you are trying to separate the murderous actions of a government from its people.

        1. Urthona

          I was worried it implied the same exact people have always been in power.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I can’t tell the difference between one communist from another. They’re all murderous scum

        2. Tonio

          Tulsi gets it.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      And Trump wished them a happy birthday

      1. commodious spittoon

        Christ, what an asshole.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Seriously. He’s too morally bankrupt to see a difference between the Chinese state and our own. And he’s too inept to realize how he could utilize Hong Kong for his own political objectives on trade.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            It’s just standard realpolitik. Doesn’t make it right though.

          2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

            I can understand the unease with that, but maybe he was being diplomatic in order to help resolve the trade war. Or maybe not.

          3. Urthona

            He was.

            I would personally feel way better about the trade war though if it was because China is an immoral totalitarian regime and not because Trump doesn’t get trade.

    3. Pan Zagloba

      Did the cop fear for his life?

    4. Rhywun

      I read it was one person and that person is still alive – for now.

    5. Hyperion

      “The most brutal totalitarian regime in human history just murdered some protesters in Hong Kong today.”

      We knew this was going to happen, and we knew the left were going to totally excuse it while calling Trump worse than Hitler.

      1. Urthona

        I feel like it should kind of put things in perspective for Americans though. I mean Trump is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but the reason why China makes all our shit is human life has so little value there.

        But of course it won’t.

  45. commodious spittoon

    Heard on today’s episode of The Conservatian:

    “I think it’s John bongos mustache that’s the suspender”

    Actually that’s what tried to take down on my phone earlier so I’d remember to post this.

    “I think it’s John Bolton’s mustache that’s the whistle blower.”

    Jon Gabriel confirmed for glibs lurker.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Ugh. “The Conservatarians”

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        I listened to that a couple times. I could see Jon being a lurker. He’s a Michael Malice fan.

  46. J. Frank Parnell

    This Is the Moment Rachel Maddow Has Been Waiting For

    Recently, I went to dinner at the home of Rebecca Kee, a preschool principal in San Francisco who turned to Maddow in her depression and confusion over the 2016 election. I brought a bottle of rosé, and she poured it into glasses decorated with charms that featured Russia-investigation figures on one side and characters from “Star Trek: The Next Generation” on the other. I sipped from the Hope Hicks/Beverly Crusher glass, and we watched Maddow’s show over veggie enchiladas. “I think of her as a news doula: You know the news is going to be painful no matter what, so we might as well have someone who helps us survive it,” Kee told me. Last year, Kee had a Maddow-themed birthday party, at which her friends and her two young sons put on big black glasses and slicked their hair to the side. Also in attendance was a life-size cardboard cutout of Maddow, which is now in storage so as not to startle guests.

    TW: giant picture of Rachel Maddow

    1. Urthona

      Really surprised that a preschool principal in SF would be so left leaning.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The NYT is now stealing Jezebel article ideas.

      That’s a new low, even for them.

      1. Hyperion

        The NYT has been at Jezebel level or lower for some time now.

      2. Rhywun

        Is that where that hilarious lesbian fan-fic appeared?

          1. Rhywun

            She’s just picked up the New York Times crossword puzzle and is rolling a chewed up pencil between her fingers. You chuckle to yourself. She could use a sharpie and it wouldn’t make a difference. She never gets an answer wrong.

            That may be the best paragraph I’ve read in a decade.

    3. Somehow I can’t imagine Kee having said that.

    4. Hyperion

      “giant picture of Rachel Maddow”

      Is that the ugliest woman ever I seen? It could be. If not, it’s close.

      1. BakedPenguin

        I’ve seen pictures of krokodil users that were better looking.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          I Google image searched that once. Lord have mercy was that a mistake.

        2. Hyperion

          There are meth or crack addicted chicks all over the streets of Baltimore. You can spot them pretty quickly, anorexic look and sores all over their face. I walked past another one today on my way to the garage and it’s always the same thing ‘Excuse me, sir, can you help me? I don’t want money, but I’m really hungry’. I feel bad for them, but there is nothing you can do.

    5. Tres Cool

      “…a preschool principal in San Francisco who turned to Maddow in her depression and confusion over the 2016 election…”

      Cause Lord knows, the 1st thing a depressed person needs is a bottle of alcohol.

      1. Hyperion

        Rachael Maddow, Award Winning Journalist, WRONG.

        Tres Cool, Working Dude, Consumer of Tall Cans, Somehow Less Wrong.

        1. Tres Cool

          Still wrong, but in new, creative, and dare I say, “inventive” ways.

          1. Hyperion

            So, instead of tall cans, I got one of these Corona Familiar Quart bottles well chilled. Straight out of the bottle, good evening chill.

  47. Hyperion

    “Florida Boy Man: 15-year-old died protecting family home, 5-year-old sister from intruder, police say”

    If we can just make it illegal to to have guns in a family home, this will never happen again.

  48. Count Potato

    “The elderly woman with a walker who was accosted by antifa militants in Hamilton, Canada has spoken out in a new clip:”

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1179133508238708736

    1. AlmightyJB

      I wish I shared her optimism.

    2. Hyperion

      So, I don’t usually volunteer, but if she’d like some volunteers to beat the living shit out of those guys, I’m in.

  49. BakedPenguin

    Ha ha ha, fuck you, New York, Fuck you Fredo.

    1. Hyperion

      This guy is seriously missing one important point. We may have imposed 90% tax rates in the past, but the real point is that no one actually paid it and there was no way to enforce it. You try to enforce that shit, there will be ZERO one percenters left in NY. They already tried this non-sense in France. The results is common knowledge.

    1. MikeS

      Some trans players are up in arms over the article because they are claiming that the unnamed refs don’t exist.

      No direct quotes from referees, no corroborating evidence from RFU documents or testimony, no evidence whatsoever. All referees anyone I know have reached out to say nothing was said at all. It’s completely invented, sorry mate.
      — Natalie (@Transsomething) October 1, 2019

      I wonder how Natalie feels about “those familiar with the administration’s thinking”?