Poll: Holiday Shopping

So, holiday spending is in full swing. Assuming you purchase gifts for family/friends/Secret Santa/whatever this time of year, what kind of holiday shopper are you?

I dislike going to brick-and-mortar stores anytime during the year, but especially now. The constant Christmas music, the horrendously gaudy displays, the crowds of humans, the bad parking situations, the fake-cheerful employees…all of it bugs me and makes me more depressed than I already am.

I do nearly all my shopping all year online, including using grocery delivery services, so why would I change now? Right, I wouldn’t. Also, online shopping fits nicely with the fact that nearly everyone to whom I would give something lives far removed from me, so add in that shipping when I have purchased something in person is a hassle.

Of course, I do acknowledge that there are some people who love holiday shopping out in the wild. I don’t understand them, but I know they exist.

How about you? What kind of holiday shopper are you?

 

 

Comments

410 responses to “Poll: Holiday Shopping”

    1. Spudalicious

      Hater.

  1. Tulip

    Online, all the way. I love that I can have gifts wrapped and mailed directly.

  2. Not Adahn

    Pretty much online only.

    I have gifts of obligation and gifts of affection. Gifts of that latter case are sometimes(often) works of art.

    I received one of those today — I had a dear friend that visited me recently, and she gifted me a tablecloth. Which would seem like a crappy gift, but the enclosed note said “I think your table deserves a cloth I didn’t spill tea on.”

    1. Crusty Juggler

      Ewwwwwwwwwww you’re friends with a tea drinker!

        1. Crusty Juggler

          It’s un-American.

        2. Spudalicious

          I suppose you have friends who are cheese eating surrender monkeys too?

          1. Not Adahn

            I do, and she’s smokin’

          2. Spudalicious

            Does she shave her pits? Always been a turn off for me.

          3. Not Adahn

            She shaves everything… except those parts that she waxes.

          4. Crusty Juggler

            Her upper lip?

          5. Spudalicious

            Pics or it didn’t happen.

          6. Not Adahn

            @CJ, yes.

            @Spud, Nope. As much as I’m an omnivore, I have to admit she tastes better since she went vegan, and she knows I write a horoscope column for a libertarian website.

          7. Spudalicious

            You’re dead to me.

          8. Not Adahn

            That is a sacrifice I’m willing to make.

          9. Spudalicious

            Fair point.

  3. Fourscore

    Hi SP,

    I did what little shopping I had to do on line but stopped and got some restaurant gift cards yesterday. I have been giving out paper for the last few years, seems like kids/grand kids never get enough paper. My wife and I do very little gifting for each other, we just get what we want as needed. Too much stuff already.

    1. I agree about having too much stuff. I am trying to get rid of something for every new something we bring in, but it’s not working too well.

      For my son, I generally end up sending gift cards he can use on the job, but this year I am actually sending him better quality housewares. My daughter (hi, Webdom!) has already received her major gift.

  4. I don’t go to stores to shop for other people. It’s not worth the stress.

  5. A scattered one.

    Most of my holiday shopping nowadays is for specialty foods for Christmas Eve and Christmas morning. I always forget to write at least one thing down, maybe two, and if I don’t forget to write it down, I forget the list on the refrigerator. I get the same things every year and yet, I cannot remember. I also forget to take an inventory of what I do have.

    This year, everybody’s getting cash or something from a florist. I bought stocking stuffers today, but I know I missed something.

    Now I’m tired.

  6. Spudalicious

    I finished shopping this morning and never left the house. Everyone is in another state. I didn’t have to wrap any presents either, which is not a skill of mine.

    I do fondly remember as a kid, my dad would do all his shopping on Christmas Eve. He was a JC Penny store manage. After shopping, he would drop it all off in gift wrap and let the girls enact his labor. He went out with other store managers and went drinking. He’d come home lit with a trunk full of presents, and the family would spend the rest of the evening partying and gathering around the piano after dinner to sing carols.

    1. Awww. That’s a sweet story.

  7. Well, I’ve submitted “Ink and Infatuation” for posting. It’s the shorter of the two stories.

    1. Spudalicious

      Cool. I look forward to reading it.

    2. kinnath

      great, thanks

  8. Sean

    99.99% online. Amazon gets a huge slice of my business.

    GF asked for a new laptop for xmas, so Dell got a chunk of change too.

    1. Sean

      The Amazon gift stuff included books from Mojeaux & UCS.

      Support your local Glibs!

      1. I hope they enjoy the books.

      2. Thank you!

        *bites nails nervously*

        1. Don’t be nervous, stand behind your work.

          1. Well, after Sean’s questions, I’m not sure the genre will be a good “fit” for them.

          2. Sean

            You’ve got got me reading your short stories and greatly enjoying them (outside my usual genres). I might steal the pirate book from my gf when she’s done with it. Just don’t tell her. ?

            Also, I don’t give bad gifts.

            @UCS – Beyond the Edge of the Map went to my younger brother and Shadowboy went to my gf.

          3. I might steal the pirate book from my gf when she’s done with it.

            Pssst. Why wait?

            Chapters 9 and 18.

            Hm. 18. Again. I’m sensing a pattern.

          4. Tres Cool

            Well, and if I can bend the ear of you two. And other Glibs too.
            Im trying to select some books for Tres Sr. I would give you my custom, but neither of your genres appeals to that 80 year old man.
            From what Ive gotten him in the past, he enjoys Dave Barry (novels, not the column), Richard Russo (Straight Man- which I loved) was a swing and miss, Neal Boortz he enjoyed, and likewise Hayek. He also liked “Hemingway’s Chair” by Michael Palin, and “The Compleat Angler” by Izzak Walton. And since he just got me John Adams, maybe anything about colonial America.

            All suggestions are appreciated in advance.

          5. 1776 by David McCullough

            Historical works by little-known author with some intriguing theories, Mark Ledbetter. I’ve only read America’s Forgotten History Parts 1 & 2. In fact, I didn’t even know he had 3 and 4. He skews libertarian.

          6. Tres Cool

            You’re so awesome.

          7. This is kinda in the vein of the Dave Barry comedy crime caper book.

          8. Tres Cool

            You’re awesome too.
            I think Ill pick 1 from either category

          9. Awww, shucks and pshaw. *blush*

          10. Fourscore

            Any of McCullough’s books except the Teddy Roosevelt one. Check the Hamilton Book Company, I get a lot of historical biographies for them and all are discounted.

          11. dbleagle

            The Mountain Man era of the Rockies sounds like it might interest him. A good one volume intro to the history and major players is “A Life Wild and Perilous” by Robert Utley.

            “1776” I can second as well.

          12. DrOtto

            As a mechanic, this is my policy for my brake jobs.

  9. Crusty Juggler

    I enjoy going out of my way to give creative, thoughtful gifts to people I care about.

    But if those gifts aren’t accepted in a manner I see fit those people I cared – past tense – about are dead to me.

    Also, brick and mortar stores are for bored ladies and recently divorced dads.

  10. Sean

    Know what today is?

    New gun leather day. Arrived in my mail box this afternoon.

    https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/49_bN__-QWS_1Dnl9eltKQ.jn0BKbxe8M4AXhaQIQ6P82

    It’s my third holster from Eric. I can recommend him without reservation.

    1. Spudalicious

      Nice. I’m partial to Milt Sparks myself. And they’re local.

    2. Not Adahn

      Horsehide?

      Also, I did appreciate that the Amazon Prime version of Bosh always showed him carrying in Condition 1. Though why he’d have to give back is (obviously personal) weapon when suspended was an inconsistency I chalked up to TV tropes.

      1. Sean

        I only have 1 horseshide holster. It’s a Milt Sparks VM2 for a P220.

        I have a matching belt from The Beltman.

    3. Tacit Rainbow

      Wow. I can’t believe he went back into business. He’s a real piece of work. Good holsters, but damn.

      1. Sean

        I saw him apologize somewhere on the internet for fucking up a long time ago. That was before I ordered from him.

        I have nothing but positive things to say about him.

        1. Tacit Rainbow

          I’d make sure to only buy one holster at a time from him. Just in case.

  11. Spudalicious

    Awesome. On Tucker, the co-founder of The Federalist just compared the Democrat impeachment process to “watching a monkey hump a doorknob”.

    1. Fourscore

      I always heard “A monkey humping a jug” but either case it describes the recent political game we witnessed.

      1. Spudalicious

        My favorite is “Monkey fucking a football”.

    2. “Football”, It’s watching a monkey fuck a football, and you’re suppose to be willing to pay a quarter for the privilege. Jesus, is it that hard to get your idioms straight?

      1. Spudalicious

        You can’t really get away with that on a news network.

        1. That’s what the seven second delay and the “Bleep” button are for.

          1. Not Adahn

            Why would I pay to watch that? The primate house was always my least favorite part of the zoo. They’re not as cool looking as the great cats, and they smell worse.

          2. I always took it as an expression of ones willingness for being up for anything. Seeing that a monkey fucking a football is not something many people would find all that entertaining, being willing to pay a quarter for the experience demonstrates ones open-mindedness. Thus when you are sanding at the bar nursing your seventh Strohs of the evening and Roscoe asks if you’re up for a game of Fuzzball against the Mylo Brothers, you confidently reply, “Shit, I’d pay a quarter to watch a monkey fuck a football!”… you know it does sounds kinda stupid in hindsight but we all sure yukked it up back it the day.

  12. Caput Lupinum

    I enjoy black Friday shopping, but I’ve long accepted the fact that I’m a broken man.

    1. That may be, but that’s an adorable pooch.

      1. Chipping Pioneer

        American Bulldog?

  13. Gender Traitor

    I still lean toward bricks & mortar BUT only in specific types of stores. So far, I’ve shopped at our local art museum’s gift shop on a discount day for members and at a nearby used book store. I’ll probably venture into the Barnes & Noble near my office if I can leave work a little early tomorrow. I do NOT want to do any Christmas shopping at a mall or in a department store. I have extra time to shop for my sisters and BIL since Mr. GT and I will do Christmas Day (and a few days after) with his family in St. L. We probably won’t get together with my side of the family until the weekend after New Year’s Day.

    I’ve had a hard time getting motivated to do much of anything Christmasy this year. No cards, no tree. A few lights on the bushes out front, but no decorations inside.

    1. Fourscore

      No tree, no lights, few cards. We’ll have our Christmas a little early with a couple of grand daughters and their significant others. Christmas isn’t such a big deal when the kids are grown up and gone.

      1. Not Adahn

        I bought a case of my favorite salsa. I wrapped it up, and tomorrow morning I’m going to give it to my favorite diner. They’ve been giving me presents for a few years now, I owe them. Even though this is NY, and they think Frank’s is a hot sauce.

    2. Tres Cool

      Yo’ pimpnotics!
      Homey, you just need a Cheech & Chong Santa re-charge.

      1. Gender Traitor

        pimpnotics

        I need to bookmark Urban Dictionary just to figure out whether what you’re calling me is a good thing or not. : )

        This time though, all DDG revealed for me was a drink recipe. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

    3. Yeah, I have not been feeling Christmasy either. I did put up some lights in my front windows finally, and bought a Christmas cactus since I no longer had one. Oh, and a rosemary shaped into a tiny little tree because I can plant it and we need it. And my Dad sent me an amaryllis, which he does nearly every year.

      I haven’t dug out the solar lights for out back yet, and at this point, may not (probably won’t) bother. And I have no idea where to begin looking for my grandmother’s ceramic Christmas tree.

      On the plus side, I do have 2.5 quarts of Dbl Eagle’s aged eggnog remaining.

      1. Spudalicious

        We got a tree up and I put the wreath on the door. That’s pretty much it for this year.

        1. I thought about a wreath, but my late Mom used to send me one from a local place every year, and I just couldn’t deal with it this year.

          1. Spudalicious

            We’ve got a big, fake one.

  14. Sean

    On the flip side, a decent amount of my received Xmas gifts from my gf have come from:

    https://www.surpluscityguns.com

    Purchased in person during their black Friday sales.

  15. commodious spittoon

    I spent a month dreading having to do any shopping, maybe a cumulative six hours scrolling through Amazon pages, and a hundred bucks settling on what I hope are an adequate collection of books for my parents and niece and nephews.

    What I’m more interested is what, if anything, I should have bought my coworkers.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Or bosses.

      1. Chafed

        I’m a boss. I like my employees but I don’t want gifts. It’s awkward. I’m responsible for hiring and firing as well as determining raises. Gifts complicate things.

    2. Rhywun

      what, if anything, I should have bought my coworkers

      You’re kidding.

      1. He’s obviously a nice kid.

  16. Timeloose

    I’ve done a good job of keeping gifts simple. We get a few thing for our parents online or gift cards. Our siblings get nothing and the nieces and nephews get cold hard cash in savings/investment accounts.

  17. gbob

    Next girlfriend better have a summer birthday. Last one was Jan 5tg. Current one is tonight. Talk about having to do stupid money twice in the same pay period

    1. BakedPenguin

      The Democratic Presidential Debate tonight on PBS “May be listed by some PBS stations as an episode of ‘Antiques Roadshow.’”

      Considering the ages of the three leading candidates, that’s kinda appropriate.

  18. Crusty Juggler

    Has their been a prettier movie character than Sharon Stone in “Casino?”

    1. Crusty Juggler

      Listen, sometimes I make mistake.

      1. Sean

        You’re Hunter Biden?

        1. Crusty Juggler

          I don’t have that much class.

    2. Crusty Juggler

      Angie Dickinson in “Point Blank?”

    3. Crusty Juggler

      Jon Hamm?

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        Michelle Pfiefer in Scarface

        1. Crusty Juggler

          Serious answers only.

          1. Michelle Pfeiffer is prettier than Sharon Stone in every conceivable iteration/dress/makeup/hairdo/age.

          2. Not Adahn

            Truth.

          3. Crusty Juggler

            I’ve moved you into my Uncivil/TedS/Hyperbole/HeroicMulatto Glibertarians of bad taste category.

            I never thought it would get to this point.

          4. Have you ever thought that perhaps it’s you that has the bad taste?

          5. Crusty Juggler

            lol no wtf gtfo

          6. Dude. Your name is Crusty Juggler.

            That collection of syllables in that order screams “bad taste.”

          7. Jarflax

            Didn’t you have a thing for Ann Coulter at TOS?

          8. Spudalicious

            Mojeaux speaks truth here.

          9. Not Adahn

            Fact: Nobody has ever cast a character as looking like Sharon Stone.
            Also Fact: Gotham is a TV show that exists.

          10. Jarflax

            ^truthiness

    4. Elisabeth Shue in Palmetto.

      1. Crusty Juggler

        An actual answer. Thank you. You are off the bad taste list. Jarflax (really, this was an oversight), and Not Adahn have replaced you.

        1. Jarflax

          I repeat, Didn’t you used to have a thing for Ann Coulter dating back to TOS? Let me expand on that. Doesn’t regarding Ann as attractive permanently disqualify one from judging feminine pulchritude?

          1. Spudalicious

            pulchritude = word of the day.

          2. Crusty Juggler

            No and also no.

      2. DrOtto

        Or Gina Gershon for that matter. Forgot that movie. Good call.

        1. Sean

          She may have gotten old, but in my head she’ll always be labeled hot.

    5. l0b0t

      Helen Mirren in The Long Good Friday?

  19. Hyperion

    Wife and I are not shopping this holiday, except for together. So we did all the decorating, that was fun and it’s pretty. But come on, we’re not 9 anymore, unless you’re counting 9 going on 60. We also don’t believe in the Easter Bunny or Socialism any longer, so there’s that.

    Anyway, we just decided to spend the next 14 days I have, not obligated to leave the house for work, to spend how we want. No pressure, all fun. Money will be spent for sure, but at least no one will be getting shit they have to return to Walmart the day after.

    Oh, and there’s this, From PJ Media’s latest Drunken Blog (Hey! It thought that was our idea!):

    STEPHEN GREEN • DECEMBER 19@08:33 PM CHAT 0 COMMENTS
    Next topic: Climate change.

    It is the height of hubris to think that there is some perfect climate, that we used to have it, and that politicians can bring it back.

    The Green New Deal is a Greek tragedy in the making, only the “hero” sleeps with your mother and then stabs out your eyes.

    Someone give Stephen one internet.

    1. Spudalicious

      “only the “hero” sleeps with your mother and then stabs out your eyes.”

      +1 for visualization.

  20. Drake

    70% online. Wine searcher came in handy for those on my list getting the gift of booze.
    http://Www.wine-searcher.com/

  21. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    I like markets, but I don’t care for consumerism. Shopping is a chore to me.
    I buy presents for those who I know will get one for me, but I usually just ask for gin as my gift.

  22. Tulip

    I often do themes. Like, every one gets wine and cheese, or other food. One year every one got booze, or dried fruit and nuts. This year no theme.

    1. I used to make food gifts, but just didn’t get stuff planned in time this year with everything that was going on.

      1. Tulip

        I’ve done that too. I would go to the thrift shop and buy Christmas themed plates, fill with cookies, then wrap in colored cellophane. Or, I’d buy baskets at the thrift shop (that’s where the baskets from purchased food baskets go) and fill with apricot bread etc.

    2. Not Adahn

      The problem with themes is that it makes your affection hierarchy too obvious. Like if I were to give out local artisanal cheese products — if one sibling only got cheese curds and the other got aged cheeses, it would strain credulity to pretend that I loved them equally.

    3. Sean

      A box of wine and some Pepperidge farms summer sausage?

      1. Spudalicious

        You’re one class act, Sean.

      2. Tulip

        It’s your gift. *walks away muttering about crappy gift givers*

      3. Jarflax

        Be adventurous. Durian and surstromming. Only do this if the gift is being shipped. Do not hand deliver them.

    4. LemonGrenade

      My extended family has gotten large enough, buying each person a gift would be cost prohibitive, plus everyone already has tons of stuff, so I buy some form of consumables for each family group. This year, I’m taking my husband and kids to go camping in the Everglades for Christmas, so I was selfishly more concerned with finding a tiny potted tree that would fit in our travel trailer, and decorations and gear. As a result, everyone else got a big box of chocolates and I called it done.

  23. Rhywun

    I hate shopping but I don’t do delivery because I’m cheap.

    1. Jarflax

      I hate everyone in that story.

      1. Spudalicious

        ^^This^^

      2. Rhywun

        ^This plus something’s missing or false.

    2. At MOST that’s destruction of property and restitution.

    3. Not Adahn

      Yeah, I’m not believing how that was written up (h/t Jesse) . I will believe that he was sentenced as a habitual offender + arson or aggravated vandalism or the like.

    4. What does any of that have to do with freedom of speech? Thought crime bullshit I get, not so much the FOS angle.

      1. Jarflax

        Burning a flag is political expression. Freedom of expression is traditionally regarded as embodied within the first amendment protection of speech.

        1. Jarflax

          A petty larceny charge was justified here (unless the flag was much more expensive than usual), not much else.

        2. Burning your flag can be political expression, burning someone else’s flag is destruction of property Kicking someone’s ass can send a message too, but I don’t think many would consider that a first amendment issue.

          1. Jarflax

            Hence the petty larceny. In Iowa:

            Simple Misdemeanor Theft. The theft of property valued at no more than $200 is theft in the fifth degree, a simple misdemeanor under Iowa law. This level of theft is sometimes known as “petty theft,” and is the lowest level degree of theft in Iowa. (Iowa Code § 714.2(5).)

            A person convicted of a simple misdemeanor can receive a sentence of a fine ranging from $65 to $625 and incarceration for not more than 30 days. (Iowa Code § 903.1(1)(a).)

            Unless the flag was worth more than $200, this is the crime committed.

          2. Right, and they pulled some thought crime and three strike bullshit to jack it up which I agree is shitty,I’m just not seeing a FOS infringment here.

          3. Jarflax

            I think we are going in a circle here. It is freedom of expression because burning a flag is protected under freedom of expression, and the burning of the flag, which everyone involved acknowledged was done to express a viewpoint is what jacked this up to the felony level and triggered the 3 strikes laws.

          4. burning a flag is protected under freedom of expression

            No, no it’s not.

          5. leon

            The article is pretty sparse on salient details so this is what i’m going off of:

            Adolfo Martinez, 30, was found guilty of a felony hate crime and third-degree harassment after he tore down the pride flag displayed in front of the United Church of Christ in Ames, Iowa. Martinez ripped down the flag and walked it over to Dangerous Curves Gentleman’s Club, where police say he was a regular.

            I don’t know what kind of crime third-degree harassment is, but the crime seems to fit. As would a charge on destruction of property.

            I don’t think destroying other peoples property is covered as free speech.

            That being said, i think the “Throught Crime” is what was the Felony that broght the three strikes and that is at least Freedom of speech ajacent. I don’t know what legal twisting the lawyers have done to make Hate Crimes pass the Free speech test.

          6. Rhywun

            express a viewpoint is what jacked this up to the felony

            ^If accurate that is bullshit

          7. Jarflax

            Yes it is. The stealing is not protected but the stealing is a separate act from the burning. Texas v Johnson was quite clear. And the doctrine that a content based distinction restricting speech is facially invalid is settled law as well, so you cannot distinguish burning a flag symbolizing homosexuality from one symbolizing the US.

            By the way, the flag in Texas V Johnson was stolen as well. It was stripped from a flag pole by protesters before being burned.

          8. leon

            Yes it is. The stealing is not protected but the stealing is a separate act from the burning. Texas v Johnson was quite clear. And the doctrine that a content based distinction restricting speech is facially invalid is settled law as well, so you cannot distinguish burning a flag symbolizing homosexuality from one symbolizing the US.

            Interesting. So, even though the property is destroyed that doesn’t matter? That seems wrong to me. Stealing is one thing, then destroying it is another. And i don’t think you should be able to say that the destruction was just “Free Speech” and get off for it.

            In libertopia you would be charged for the stealing and destruction of the property.

            But i agree that if the Hat Crime aspect is what brought this to a felony, that is bull.

          9. Jarflax

            Why would the destruction be an additional crime? If I steal your stuff I have committed theft. Why would anything I do after that change the crime? Your loss doesn’t change because I burn it rather than sell it or use it.

          10. I guess if you consider that once an object is stolen then it’s as good as destroyed anyways so who cares what the thief does with it after the fact. And that is a compelling argument; however, I can’t help thinking something is off with that reasoning but it’s late and I’m drunk, so I’ll consider it more tomorrow. I’ll get back to you and let you know if you are right or wrong then.

          11. leon

            Perhaps not a different crime, but certainly the destruction of property is different from the mere stealing. If property is stolen, it can be returned. If it is stolen an destroyed that is different.

          12. Jarflax

            Stolen property is very rarely recovered intact, and restitution can be ordered regardless. If I steal your $100 flag and burn it, or sell it, or lose it, the court can order me to give you $100. Unless the item is somehow unique money covers this.

      2. Drake

        1 year for the the theft and destruction. The rest he could have received for making an obscene gesture at the flag.

        1. Or for being a repeat offender, so third strike bullshit. or thought crime bullshit, if they jacked up the charges cause he hates gays.

      3. leon

        Thought crime bullshit I get, not so much the FOS angle.

        Isn’t the FOS angle when you go on a Racist rant and then get piked?

        1. Spudalicious

          Noticed it was, what you did there.

    5. Hyperion

      Who was the activist judge who let that shit stand? That had better be overturned or we’re in deeper shit than I thought. WTF, is this the Soviet Union now?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Mandatory sentencing laws are unjust, I agree.

        1. Hyperion

          Agreed, but I still seem to sense that ‘hate crime’ might have dealt the guy the same fate. And as with mandatory minimums, I also do not agree with the idea of hate (thought) crime.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Yes, we’re saying the same thing.

    6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      New blasphemy laws. This isn’t the first time someone has been punished for burning a Pride Flag. In this case it was stolen, but there are cases where people have burned a flag that they own and they’ve been charged with hate crimes

  24. Nephilium

    I do most of my shopping online, with the exception of local beer, wine, mead, and other consumables. Most of the shopping is done, the real work comes this weekend, when I upgrade my computer, and migrate the replaced parts into an old case for my nephews. They should wind up with AMD-6300, 16 GB of RAM, a GTX 960, and two 1 TB HD’s. Nowhere near top of the line, but will still run most of the modern games.

      1. Nephilium

        They’re starting to get into gaming, and I’d rather steer them towards PC instead of console. I already checked with the parents before even considering this option, got a nice mechanical keyboard on sale for them, and will be picking up the FilmmakingHumble Bundle for the older one (he’s started making short movies already).

        1. Hyperion

          “’I’d rather steer them towards PC instead of console”

          I see, so you want them to be some them elitist, just like you, you shitlord! What about equality! and social justice!?

          1. Jarflax

            PC gaming is to console gaming as Von Mises’ economics is to Marx’ economics.

          2. Hyperion

            You preaching to the choir, shitlord.

            I always compared it to an upgradable on the fly Porsche compared to a Yugo that you are stuck with for the next 5 years.

          3. Nephilium

            When the X-Box 360 came out, there were reports and rumors that they were going to try to allow all games to include cross platform play. They took top tier X-Box Halo players, and had them play against average players on Windows.

            The mouse and keyboard Windows players destroyed the console players.

            Besides, the PC will also teach them valuable lessons about backing up, system repair, and what happens when you keep calling your uncle for free support.

          4. Hyperion

            “rumors that they were going to try to allow all games to include cross platform play”

            Sure they are, because there’s no difference between 30 FPS and 144 FPS. Sure, come over her, my pretty…

            “Besides, the PC will also teach them valuable lessons about backing up, system repair, and what happens when you keep calling your uncle for free support.”

            I hope that works out for you.

          5. Hyperion

            Anyway, despite my type-os. People who cannot see the difference between PC and Console play have never owned a good gaming PC.

            I’ve been playing RDR2 for the last week or so on PC and the graphics are incredible at 3440×1440 on the highest settings. I’ll crank them up all the way for the stunning visuals, and get 40-50 FPS, and then when I’m going to get into a fight, I’ll pause and crank it down to low settings and get 80-90 FPS, which makes an incredible difference in shooting and it STILL looks far better than it does on my friend’s console.

          6. It took me until later Chapter 4 to figure out how to use Deadeye because A: The crappy port of control schema makes it unintuitive, and B: I could aim and shoot just fine in realtime with a mouse.

          7. Jarflax

            Graphics are nice, having a full keyboard of controls, a mouse, and the potential for a second monitor, easy access to mods when needed, more memory etc etc.

          8. Hyperion

            “It took me until later Chapter 4 to figure out how to use Deadeye”

            Yeah, I get that, it is rather unintuitive at first and there’s a learning curve. The game is still incredible. That fight early on where Dutch and the gang decide to go after O’Driscol or whatever his name is, gave me an adrenaline rush, damn that was intense.

            And the graphics are the best I’ve never seen. I do have a good monitor though.

          9. I have yelled at it several times when, instead of taking aim, Arthur suddenly looks away from the enemy, usually down at his feet, because I’ve wandered too close to something with a context menu.

            I HATE overloaded controls, and COMBAT CONTROLS SHOULD NEVER HAVE NON-COMBAT FUNCTIONS.

            No, I’m not trying to interact with the bounty I just tied up, I’m trying to shoot the people come to steal him back.

          10. Jarflax

            AC Unity was the worst about that. You are chasing some guy throw the city and booom, contextual controls decide you want to climb a lamp post.

          11. Jarflax

            Through

          12. Hyperion

            “I have yelled at it several times when, instead of taking aim, Arthur suddenly looks away from the enemy, usually down at his feet”

            Don’t try to loot when people are shooting at you, lol. I did that too and got killed.

          13. I didn’t, I ran into a tree because I was focused on shooting mehind me. It unhorsed me, and I was trying to kill enough of the enemies to not die the instant I tried to regain my horse.

    1. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

      Yeah, pretty much all of my software vendors are abandoning my poor PC ’cause Windows 7 support ends in January 2020. So now I have to go and spend a bunch of money I don’t need to spend replacing a perfectly good high-end computer (no, I’m not upgrading the Win7 install to Win10 — I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had an O/S upgrade process go south on me and pooch a machine . . . ). And then I’ll spend a week migrating everything over from the Win7 machine.

      F*CK!

      1. Jarflax

        This is why I have been here so little this week. The part of this that is killing me is that I cannot manage to get my Merc keyboard to work properly on the new system.

      2. no, I’m not upgrading the Win7 install to Win10 — I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had an O/S upgrade process go south on me and pooch a machine

        MY PEOPLE!!!

      3. Nephilium

        I’ve heard some reports of new Windows 10 installations accepting and registering with Windows 7 keys. I’ll be testing that this weekend as well.

      4. kinnath

        I just got my new computer set up and all my old applications reinstalled today.

        A new mini-tower was 350 (black friday sale). Win 10 full license (non-OEM) is running 200ish.

        I haven’t decided what to do with the old Win 7 box yet.

    2. commodious spittoon

      Started reading about the RTX 3000 series… just have to wait six more months and BOOM. New gaming rig.

  25. BakedPenguin

    Mostly OT: Liberty Doll discusses the fuckery in Virginia.

    1. Hyperion

      I suggest a series of debates between her and Gulag Barbie. I mean it’s on my dream list.

      1. Jarflax

        Do these debates take place in a pool full of jello?

        1. Hyperion

          I knew you (someone) was going to say that. I just hope is that happens that Liberty Doll is the one who winds up naked, because she’s about 1000x times cuter than the commie.

          1. Rebel Scum

            The 50s housewife look really works for me for some reason.

          2. Hyperion

            She’s just hot, period,while Gulag… no, Hispanic Olive Oyl, just no.

          3. Hyperion

            Also, one of them is brain dead. And for some reason, although it’s not supposed to, as a guy, it affects me. Maybe it’s a survival instinct where you just know you shouldn’t have offspring with a retard.

          4. Rebel Scum

            I can’t do stupid either. I once dumped a girl because she was incapable of having an intelligent conversation about current events.

          5. That’s the saddest thing I’ve ever heard.

    2. Rebel Scum

      What’s that about not being allowed to have loaded guns around 14 y/o switching to 18 and not being allowed to have a loaded gun? Seems vague but I can’t find the bill she is referring to. (Been meaning to ask someone here as I was going off what I recalled from seeing the video earlier…)

      Everything else I have been able to verify. And it is a load of constitutionally illegal horseshit.

  26. leon

    Youtube recommends various News vidoes from various corporate press sites. I usually ignore them, but one from Fox intrigued me so i watched it.

    Holy crap, i don’t know how Lou Dobs can talk with Trumps dick in his mouth. “This impeachment has happened to the best president it could have….”

    It was quite funny to watch.

    1. Hyperion

      “Lou Dobs”

      I wasn’t even aware that he was is alive. But I thought he only gobbled establishment cock?

      1. Spudalicious

        He’s rich, biatch. He can swallow whatever dick he wants.

        1. Hyperion

          I didn’t realize you can get rich from being that incredibly boring.

          1. Spudalicious

            You can if you make a shitload investing before you go on tv, and then parley that into a blind trust while you make millions on tv reporting on what your blind trust is investing in.

          2. blackjack

            In the sidebar, there’s a story about “did Kenny G make more money investing in starbucks than he did from his music?” And I thought “I certainly hope so!” He actually did, proving that America prefers getting hyped up on Java to listening to milquetoast music. There is hope.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      I remember when Dobbs was on CNN and he was like a proto-Trump. He was constantly railing against Bush for the war and his free trade economics and his attempts at immigration reform. I think he was the most watched cable host at that time and then CNN fired him, because his immigration rhetoric caused a boycott by some immigrant groups.

      He deep throats Trump now in cringeworthy fashion, but I guess he’s remained consistent since he was a kind of proto-Trump. I’ve often wondered if Trump saw his success in the early 2000s and figured that it was a winning formula

  27. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

    Christmas shopping, like almost everything else Christmasy this year, is mostly on hold, due to the insurance company’s many minions swarming over our house like locusts trying to repair the flood damage from the defective toilet five months ago.

    Although the new luxury vinyl plank flooring upstairs and the new rug downstairs look pretty awesome, but there’s just too much to do prior to Christmas. The upstairs in particular is empty, ’cause the carpenter needs to come in the New Year and re-establish all the baseboard trim. I offered to do it myself, but apparently that was a giant no-no to the insurance company, so my hands are tied. Dammit. I may have to pay for a fabulously expensive all-inclusive vacay for the spousal unit to make it up to her. Fabulously expensive. {gulps, checks retirement accounts}

    Oh, and eBay/Amazon, with priority interrupt trips to Home Depot and Benjamin Moore. We’ve already bought a bunch of stuff, just ’cause with all the discombobulation we decided that fixing a bunch of things we didn’t like about the house when we bought it mid-June is high on the priority list right now. More painting of walls and downstairs baseboards tomorrow.

    Tonight, I’m drinking.

  28. blackjack

    Constant parade of delivery trucks here all week. I have a buddy who’s 64 and he want’s to go shopping tomorrow. I’m going just to humor him and hang out. I do need one item for my wife that might be best bought over a counter, so there’s that. Hadda hang lights and get a tree last weekend. My kid is 7 so X-mas has to look the part still.

  29. Aus

    100% online primarily Amazon on prime day, then black friday / cyber monday. Mostly cheap electronics such as bluetooth speaker, portable batteries to usb devices, etc.

    One interesting thing is I got laser engraved pmags. On the left, for a coworker (female btw) and on the right, for my Marine friend. Hope they like them!

    https://imgur.com/Cibsth8

    1. I LOVE “no step on snek”!

      1. BakedPenguin

        “China is asshole” is good, too, but I can see why the US military wouldn’t want that on official military equipment.

        1. BakedPenguin

          Oops – I should have said ‘would’ve been good, too’. There was no example of that in your link.

          1. BakedPenguin

            Argh. In Aus‘s link. Imma go to bed now, apparently too much to drink.

  30. Semi-Spartan Dad

    Everything was online this year, like most years. I bought a Brother laser printer for the wife and toys for the kids.

    I did go out on Black Friday to buy another Springfield XDS. Didn’t really need it, but price was too good to pass up. I got there at 10am and just got laughed at by the counter person. Apparently, they sold out hours before. 35 min drive each way. Oh well. Did get the oil changed while I was out.

    The kids are just getting to the age where they are really into Christmas and Santa, so my wife set up a big tree and I put up LED projector lights outside. Only took a couple minutes to set up and the kids get a big kick out of em.

    1. blackjack

      Lucky! I hadda put up icicle lights on the eaves, the laser projectors, illuminated 3 foot candy canes, and a lighted stack of boxed present looking statue kinda thing, AND got get a high end tree and set it up. They decorated it, though. I gotta go back up on the roof Saturday to replace a defective string of icicles.

  31. LJW

    Just had a nice civil discussion with a Bernie supporter. He said that Bernie is a bit of a Libertarian because he wants to get rid of the Patriot act. I said that’s great, but how can Bernie say he doesn’t trust government with the power of surveillance, while trusting the government to manage health care, and health records. Actually that power could probably be more dangerous than surveillance powers. His response was that’s not even comparable. It boggles my mind how these people can see a government that fails spectacularly frequently and still argue in favor of it controlling a massive portion of the economy.

    1. Hyperion

      It’s because they’ve stopped teaching history in public school. Or because some older people still want to remain intentionally ignorant. It’s always someone else’s fault that you didn’t succeed in life and it takes a God to fix that. And the only way to get a God is to elect one. And we’ll get socialism right this time. Let’s all just hope we don’t see this catastrophe again in our lifetime, because the chance of another constitutional republic like the one our founder’s created, happening again in the next 1000 years afterwards is probably zero.

  32. leon

    Hey Civil War Buff glibs:

    I recently have found this youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/CWPTbattlefields

    It is pretty deep explanation of various civil war battles.

    1. creech

      American Battlefield Trust has partnered (many times, unfortunately, with governments) to save “hallowed ground.” Some of the ground is even hallowed Confederate ground for which they draw no moral distinction. That will probably get them in trouble one of these days.

  33. salted earth

    hey, not all of us are fake-cheerful. puts on best smile, “how can i help?”

    1. Hyperion

      Fake cheerful is for meetings. If you’re going that during non-work hours, I’m not sure how to help.

      1. Hyperion

        doing

  34. Shpip

    Since it’s only Mrs. Shpip and me, it’s pretty much online for everything (and she lets me know what she likes). Amazon, Tieks, Apple, and sometimes Tiffany’s or Mikimoto.

    Booze is the only thing I do brick-and-mortar for.

  35. @prairieboy

    I wanted to respond to your comment on the 11:00 a.m. (God’s true time zone) post.

    I’m also a believer that the more stories there are in the world, the better, so I am glad to see the independent publishing world take shape.

    It’s an exciting time, I agree, even if I personally am getting few eyeballs.

    Traditional publishing was limiting the number of stories told, and a lot of them were getting tiresome.

    The readers agreed, which is WHY independent publishing took off.

  36. Rhywun

    OMG debate!

    “How to support adults with disabilities”

    I see we’re doing “stuff that isn’t any business of the federal government” again.

  37. Jarflax

    This year I am doing gifts for the kids and none for adults.

  38. BakedPenguin

    If Ted is still around, this is for him. I’d recommend no one else click on it.

    1. That’s their worst song, but that isn’t nearly the insult as it sounds. It’s just that the rest of their stuff was so gooooooooooooooooooood. Nay, PERFECT.

      1. blackjack

        So, you’re saying, they’ve only just begun?

        1. [insert clever Carpenters lyric pun here]

          Yanno, I watch her and it just hurts to think of how much she must have suffered and what a waste that she died so young. Most perfect voice ever, gone at 32. Too young.

          1. blackjack

            That’s totally true and I didn’t mean to disparage her. Just being glib.

          2. Oh, I know! Sorry, I didn’t mean to harsh your joke. It was funny and I had a couple of quips lined up, and then she started singing and, ugh. That poor girl.

          3. Rhywun

            There isn’t a lot of early 70s pop in my regular rotation… except them. She and he were magical. I am indebted to a friend in college for pointing that out to me.

    2. Chafed

      I should have listened to you BP. I should have listened…. *shudders*

    3. Your hate put me at the top of the world.

  39. Rhywun

    Yang: “Special needs is the new normal”

    Hoo-boy.

    1. Rhywun

      “What are you going to do to stop violence against transgender people?”

      And… I’m out. This is worse than the MSNBC debates.

      1. Spudalicious

        I completely skipped this debate and I’m glad I did.

      2. LJW

        Cocks for Glocks program. Have a doctor’s note showing you’re post op and the government will provide you a Glock for protection from the roaming gangs of trans-killers.

        1. Jarflax

          This is my pistol, that was my gun, this is for fighting, that was no fun.

          1. Rhywun

            *chortle*

        2. LJW

          *antitrans-killers

  40. straffinrun

    Interesting campaign poster in my neighborhood from the communist party.
    On the upper right: lower the consumption tax to 5%! On the lower right: Fight climate change!

    https://m.imgur.com/a/Nk9CD6l

    1. The Japanese Tax Tuberculosis?

      Brutal.

      1. Spudalicious

        Larf!

    2. Winston

      Carbon tax is technically not a consumption tax.

    3. commodious spittoon

      What’s up with using regular er normal um real I mean American numbers?

      And American percent sign.

      1. straffinrun

        American numbers? Appropriator!

        1. Winston

          We appropriate them from the Arabs and Indians in the first place…oof.

    4. Gustave Lytton

      Zero action on climate change!

      https://imgur.com/Qs5SkG2

      1. grrizzly

        That’s my stance!

      2. Hyperion

        So… are we doomed in less than 12 years now?

  41. Rebel Scum

    Shipping….meh. Gotta buy the lady an actual gift. And my family does secret santa for the adults so we just have to buy one gift. So that makes 2 online orders. Gift cards for the rest of my immediate family.

    1. Rebel Scum

      Shopping* for the first word…

  42. Winston

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/12/19/rep-adam-schiff-has-more-evidence-this-time-implicating-mike-pence-in-ukraine-scandal/

    Holy shit the Dems want President Pelosi and not even hiding their goal of a one-party state. WTF!?

    1. Winston

      I guess this is good for Trump since even Sensible Republicans aren’t safe.

    2. Winston

      The Dems didn’t even try this stunt during Watergate when they controlled both houses.

      1. leon

        Umm… It was Ford who became president not Agnew.

        1. Winston

          They voted in Ford (and then Nelson Rockefeller) but they can easily refuse Pence’s Veep nominee and then impeach him and if the Republicans cave and convict then President Pelosi!

    3. Rebel Scum

      Power is the end not the means.

    4. Raven Nation

      Well, it has been good for a lot of people apparently: https://theweek.com/speedreads/885328/pelosi-says-people-have-spring-step-after-trumps-impeachment

      “”We’ve been hearing from people all over the country since last night and this morning,” she said. “Seems like people have a spring in their step because the president was held accountable for his reckless behavior … I myself want to say I have a spring in my step because of the moral courage of our caucus.” “

      1. leon

        Hey look if an impotent vote in the house was all it took to get the left out of spiraling depression, then i think it was a good thing.

      2. Hyperion

        Well, I haven’t even seen that here in this deep blue bubble. I would describe people who have pigeon holed themselves into the bubble… their mood seems to be somewhere between trepidation and foreboding.

        They’ve fucked themselves right up the ass, and they know it. But at least, the media can blow some sunshine up their ass for a brief time before the full extent of the disaster hits them.

    5. Gustave Lytton

      These idiots won’t be happy until the traitors are being summarily executed on the steps of the Capitol to cheering crowds.

      1. Winston

        I’m so happy our modern social tolerant culture, technology and education system has lead to this!

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Like the French Revolution, I didn’t specify which “traitors” will be executed. Once things getting going, everyone will have a chance to commune with the modern equivalent of Madame Guillotine.

    6. Spudalicious

      I think it’s time to go all 1800s on Schiff and have someone from the other side beat him within an inch of his life with a cane.

      1. Hyperion

        I don’t know he has long anyway. What’s that disease he has anyway, when do his eyes completely bug right out of his head?

        1. Spudalicious

          I think if you slap him in the back of the head hard enough, they’ll pop right out. Would solve a lot of problems.

          1. Hyperion

            lol

          2. Plinker762

            guessed it

  43. Tundra

    Both. Online when we have our shit together, brick and mortar when we don’t. The last bunch of years we buy the Spawn stuff relevant to where they are in life. It’s actually kind of nice to buy college stuff over the course of a few months, rather than all at once!

    We’ve throttled back the extended family stuff and tie it to a game. We have big families, so it works out well. The little ones always get plenty of presents,.

  44. pistoffnick

    We have a Christmas morning tradition where we roll dice for a pile of cheap ($15 or less) gifts. If you roll doubles, you get to open a gift or steal someone else’s. Also rolling doubles allows you to roll again. We limit the game to 30 minutes.

    I bought pickle juice energy shots (my niece loves pickles) and a burrito blanket to throw in the pile.

    Last year the most sought after item was the set of throwing knives.

    1. Tundra

      Yeah, we have a similar thing. Everyone has the option to swap gifts with someone else at the end – it’s awesome!

  45. Gustave Lytton

    Mostly online with a few brick and mortar stocking stuffers (box cutter for my wife, dog bowls for the dog). I think I might skip getting presents for the rest of my non-resident family.

    Put up outdoor lights for the first time this year. Longtime next door neighbor that always did an elaborate front yard display sold and moved away last year so I kind of felt now was the time to start doing it. New neighbor put up quite a bit but not the same way as the last.

    Lastly, to really enjoy the season, I like a traditional Christmas with lots of shiny lights and cold air. Like this https://youtu.be/LnJ7wBS513E

    1. I’m going to show my cultural ignorance here, but why is Christmas so big in Japan?

      1. Gustave Lytton

        It’s the most romantic day of the year!

        1. straffinrun

          True. Hump on Christmas and bow to your mom on New Years.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            And drink your coworkers under the table in between.

      2. Raven Nation

        Hmm, this doesn’t answer your question, but it is interesting: https://japan-magazine.jnto.go.jp/en/1112_christmas.html

        1. Gustave Lytton

          My wag is prevalence of Western culture particularly American culture, willingness to appropriate and Japanize other cultural points, lack of religious association, integrated companies (railways own and run stores around the stations and large light displays are a way to drive foot traffic). My recollection is most of the lighting is done by large institutions and not so much by private persons like house lighting here.

      3. LJW

        I’m going to show my cultural ignorance here, but why is Christmas KFC day so big in Japan?

        1. KFC day

          That too.

          1. Winston

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk4Eq8IcQMk

            Bet you didn’t realize that he was a real person.

          2. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

            Not only was he a real person, but he actually spent a good portion of his retirement years in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, my childhood home. Used to see him from time to time strolling down the sidewalk at the local shopping plaza (what they used to call small malls back in the day). He always wore that white suit.

          3. CPRM

            That Kernal Sanders, he was just a drunk pedo who offered kids fried chicken.

          4. Winston

            WEAR MY STREETSVILLE GON

          5. Winston

            Back in the days that Hazel McCallion was young, right? 😛

          6. Plinker762

            Shelbyville? Don’t they marry their cousins there?

          7. Oh yes. Yes, I did.

            I also knew the white suit and whatnot was a persona he adopted.

            Also: The food that built America 10/10 would watch again.

  46. Raven Nation

    Hmm, sipping a 12yo Macallan. Quite good.

    1. straffinrun

      Read that as “ Macaulay Culkin”. Kinda gross.

    2. Spudalicious

      That was my first introduction to single malt. Still very sippable, but they definitely are proud of their name.

    3. blackjack

      I can’t get into the Mac. It seems kinda too smoky or something. With the prices they ask for the stuff, I’m way happier with some 18 y/o Glenfiddich. That’s just me.

      1. Spudalicious

        For me, it’s the sherry. Great entry introduction, but I like more complexity these days. And I’m an Islay nut, so I don’t know what I’m talking about.

        1. slumbrew

          My buddy was gifted (re-gifted?) a bottle of Kavalan Solist Sherry Cask Strength, which he re-gifted to me (he’s not a Scotch guy).

          It’s an expensive and rare bottle of Scotch, and I do not like it at all.

          The sherry is overwhelming and puts me right off.

          Ah, well. Someone will drink it, eventually.

      2. Raven Nation

        I got a pretty good deal on it at Costco. I prefer Jura, but that’s hard to find.

    4. Hyperion

      I don’t really have much liquor in the house. I gave it all away. I have a really good bottle of cachaca. Cachaca is a strange thing. It’s either really bad or it’s as good as the best bourbon you’ve ever drank. I finished a bottle of the former, which I had to put in coke or something because it was so awful, and now I have a bottle I’ve had one shot out of, that is excellent, and I knew it would be because of who gave it to me, guy doesn’t drink anything but the best. I might have a shot of that tonight.

  47. Hyperion

    Holiday’s starting early here. Woohoo! Drank! Well, shit, I’m working tomorrow, at home… I can still probably have one more…

    1. LJW

      I probably should use the holidays as an excuse to start alcohol tolerance training for my Vegas trip in March. Over the last 10 years I’ve decreased my drinking frequency to a rare occasion. Last thing I want to do is blow money on a stupid bet after getting shit faced off of 3 beers.

      1. Hyperion

        I don’t gamble, so I’m safe there. Worst thing is I get a hangover, or much worse, make my wife mad.

    1. Hyperion

      I just got a vision of her brain in a bottle of spoiled pickle juice.

      1. Plinker762

        Don’t forget, twitter is not a dating site. It must be true because it says so right in her profile.

        1. Hyperion

          Wut?… wait… she thinks someone might actually want to…

          1. Plinker762

            paging barfman

            and every vote counts, except for those deplorables.

          2. Hyperion

            “paging barfman”

            Even Barfman ain’t up to that one.

    2. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

      Like the giant steamin’ turd that it is?

    3. LJW

      I hate how the left makes me defend Trump and McConnell when there is plenty of legitimate criticism of both of them that is ignored.

      1. CPRM

        This We The Internet skit gets better as time passes.

  48. CPRM

    Amazon doesn’t take paypal, so I don’t usually use them for online shopping; as I find it helps me spend less of anything I make through paypal if I only use it for internet purchases; ie I never include paypal in my real world budget, and online shop more sparingly if that is all I use.

  49. One tradition we have is that my wife and I will go to target together and spend 30 minutes or so picking out stocking stuffers. I also took my daughter out to the store today to pick something out to give my wife, but that’s mainly because she’s not old enough to understand online shopping. Everything else was bought online.

  50. Aus

    The Snowden documentary “CitizenFour” is on Amazon Prime right now until 12/31.

    Trying to find something to watch because I’m bored of my usual YT channels. Open to any recommendations.

    1. Spudalicious

      “McCain Conservatives” is an oxymoron.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        In all seriousness, I have no idea what “conservative” means anymore. It seems to have mutated to “loving big government high taxing high deficit Donald Trump,” which seems to bear little relationship to the meaning I remember of, “limited government low tax balanced budget loving Barry Goldwater.”

        1. CPRM

          Conservatives have always been about slow change. Now a 90s democrat is is center right, so there’s that.

        2. Spudalicious

          That’s why I qualify with “Constitutional Conservative”, which is pretty damned close to Libertarian. SP’s bio is pretty spot on.

    2. grrizzly

      The mormons!

      But one of the features of our political moment is that anti-Trump activity on the right tends to emanate from two main camps: Libertarians (Amash, Judge Andrew Napolitano, etc.), and neoconservative-style interventionists (Bill Kristol, David Frum), with the second group being considerably larger. A third category, Mormons, is dispersed liberally within the other two.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Mormons meaning brainwashed Rockefeller Republicans like around?

    3. LJW

      Don’t want to copy comments from TOS. But JesseAz makes a great point a few lines down.

      1. leon

        I hate Reason comments now-a-days. But perhaps my favorite is Reverend Jack ass calling Trump people either Dumb Bigots (reffering to the working man) and then in the same sentence calling Mormons Superstitious Slackjaws.

        1. LJW

          I was more of a lurker over there before Glibs. Vaguely remember the rev. Sarah Palins BP was more of the nuisance when I was active.

  51. Old Man With Candy

    My online experience this year: I ordered a gift for SP from Amazon to be shipped to me. It’s a normal occurrence here, we get several boxes a day from Amazon. Understand that if a box arrives with my name, she would never think of opening it, and vice versa (one reason we’re about to celebrate our 10th anniversary). So I figured, it will come, I’ll unbox and wrap it, and SP will be delighted.

    Of course, this is the one time Amazon ships it in its own box, no Amazon box, brand and model showing. I guess she knows what she’s getting.

    My Secret Santa this year bought me a goat ejaculator and wrapped it in a way reminiscent of Sloopy’s cake-decorating skills.

    1. Spudalicious

      Should fit just fine.

    2. Old Man With Candy

      My other present this year was listening to SP laughing her ass off at the Team Blue “debaters” tonight.

      1. Hyperion

        I don’t get it. They have impeachment now, you’d better take them seriously!

      2. leon

        Are they Masters?

    3. CPRM

      So swap gifts and give SP the goat ejaculator, I’m sure she’ll love it it’s the thought that counts.

    4. LJW

      Goat Ejaculator? ClarkOMWC that’s the gift that keeps on giving, the whole year.

  52. Bob the Builder

    I’m listening to the music from the Chanukah story, narrated by Leonard Nimoy,
    Happy Chanukah!

    1. Bob the Builder

      KUSC.org check it out!

    2. CPRM

      *points and screams*

      WAR ON CHRISTMAS!

      1. Bob the Builder

        No, this is cool, Spock narration, cool story

    3. Hyperion

      Spock and the Horny Goat Ejaculator Chanakah?

      OK. Fuck, I’m done. Nite, ya’ll. I dindunuthin.

  53. Bob the Builder

    You all are missing out,

  54. Bob the Builder

    Sorry if I’m feeling melenchole, wife in hospital,
    listening to classical religious music, wish I had a local colored radoi station,
    Then I’d have the Lord all by my side,

    1. Timeloose

      I’m so sorry Bob. Hope thing get better soon.

      1. Bob the Builder

        I’m good, I do have the Lord on my side,
        I fall down, and climb back up, and I have friends, Merry Christmas!

    2. dbleagle

      This one is for you and your wife Yusef. The first song is simplicity itself, yet very powerfully sung. (I don’t bother with the second song- but some people seem to like it.)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAEJKg0lSPk

      1. Rhywun

        The first song is simplicity itself, yet very powerfully sung.

        +1

        Wow!

    3. I’m sorry, Yusef.

      1. Bob the Builder

        OK Mo, I’m getting ready how’s that?
        God is preparing me,
        Typing in tears ..,.

        1. Oh Yusef, are you really? Are you at the hospital, then? If you can go there, do.

          You’re a good man, Yusef. Wendy is lucky to have your love.

        2. Spudalicious

          God bless you, Bob. You are the salt of the earth.

  55. dbleagle

    My parents got a gift card to WholeFoods. They love it, but won’t go because of the costs. I sent it in a Happy 4th of July card. My kids got cash in their bank accounts. They live in Germany and sending a box of homemade cookies there would cost $45- so no cookies. My son and his family are coming out to visit so the almost 4yo granddaughter will receive some gifts from her Oppa. I’ve bought some of his favorite liquor to quaff with him and I’ll prepare his favorite seafood (stuffed calamari) and we’ll drink the last bottle of the wine I brought to their wedding.

    Some of the people I sail with will receive some blackstrap rum.

    1. grrizzly

      Around here, Whole Foods (the ones that allowed to sell it) have reasonable prices on wine and liquor. For everything else the prices are not competitive.

  56. Urthona

    New Star Wars spoiler: PRIVATE MILITIA saves the day.

    Libertarian moment.

    1. CPRM

      Or is it a CIA coup?

      1. Urthona

        All we need to defeat evil in this world is a private militia and a nearly unstoppable force wizard.

        1. LJW

          Ah the intergalactic libertarian militia. Quietly plotting to leave the universe alone.

          1. Urthona

            Warp in. Defeat Space Nazis. Alien butt sex.. Warp out.

          2. Chafed

            I represent a prominent Hollywood studio. Please tell me where to park this dump truck filled with cash for you.

          3. Bob the Builder

            Or subvert it with ass sex and weed, the Mexicans got there first,,

    2. CPRM

      And, Bill Burr was on The Mandalorian, so apparently Space Boston is a thing in canon now to.

      1. LJW

        “Alright, so here’s the deal, I didn’t drop the Baby Yoda. The fucking robot dude came out of hyperspace and he didn’t tell anybody. Alright? Until you’re in hyperspace holding a fucking baby and some robot — like that’s not unsettling enough — is driving the fucking thing and slams on the brakes, let’s see how you do. Walk a mile in my fucking space slippers before you fucking come at me.”

        Bill Burr

  57. I’m trashed. I think I’m going to make some gingerbread.

    1. Bob the Builder

      I want some, yummy, peace Mo,

  58. pan fried wylie

    Shirley Knott’s recommendation of VCV Rack from the previous thread, much appreciated. Goodbye studiofactory for my virtual-patch-cable-based-synth hijinxs.

    1. Chafed

      Who’s in the what now?

    2. Shirley Knott

      Glad to have pointed you in that direction. It’s really quite an amazing system.
      Chafed, it’s a software based modular synthesizer, based largely on the a Eurorack world. The vast majority of modules are free. It’s a far cry from where we were 50 years ago.

  59. Bob the Builder

    Help me out people, Beam some energy Wendy’s way, she needs it,

    1. Prayers for you both, with love.

      1. Bob the Builder

        As whiny as I sound, we aren’t dead yet,
        I’m just alone and bummed out, nothing new I guess

        1. Gender Traitor

          If you can’t be with Wendy right now, can you corral your critters & pet ’em? Not nearly the same, but better than nothing.

          1. Bob the Builder

            I’m corraled by the critters, one to a side, they know,.,

          2. Gender Traitor

            Please give ’em some scritches for me. (I’m missing our kitteh.)

            Take care, & nighty night!

    2. Cannoli

      Best wishes to you both

  60. Cacciatore

    Just checking in; like I do now and then. Don’t have the time to dominate every thread with pith and wit like some of you delightful lot.

    Hope the holiday season hasn’t made y’all suicidal. Will have some cooking material ready for an article proper (not just recipes) in January.

    1. Bob the Builder

      I want my pith! You will provide me with pith!¡!!

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Pith hookers for Trump and Yusef!

  61. Bob the Builder

    I have a great love for traditional folk music, and the Hebrew music is wonderful, the Euro folk style is present, with the usual twist as it were,

    1. Chafed

      Are you listening to klesmer?

  62. Cannoli

    I mostly shop on Amazon. I got a couple of gifts from personalizationmall.com, and I got stocking stuffers and white elephant gifts at Wal-Mart.

  63. Gustave Lytton

    Why does this sound like Latinx and zir/zhey/zhar pronouns?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar

    1. Rhywun

      In Britain, a contemporary wit mocked the Republican Calendar by calling the months: Wheezy, Sneezy and Freezy; Slippy, Drippy and Nippy; Showery, Flowery and Bowery; Hoppy, Croppy and Poppy.[

      LOL

      #revolution #smashthesystem

  64. PieInTheSky

    I am mixed, but then I do not have a huge number of gifts to buy. And most people I know get wine anyway from me, which I can buy online or a trip to the wine shop which is not to Christmastized here

    1. Bob the Builder

      As I get older, it’s one for each Grandkids, and something cool for the Wife, this year is a custom Winnie piece

      1. straffinrun

        What are you gonna tell your grandchildren about the day Trump was impeached? Did you stand for democracy and were you really sad?

        1. Bob the Builder

          I’m gonna tell them what I did, wanna fly a kite?
          That’s how important it is,

        2. Bob the Builder

          And until they Send, the articles, the Senate can’t act, and Pelosi won’t send them, til then they don’t count for shit

          1. straffinrun

            Kapukey theater, ain’t it?

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Oooh! Pelosi in kumadori makeup! The only question is, which one?

          3. straffinrun

            Just saw your wife is in the hospital. Hope things turn out as well as possible.

          4. Bob the Builder

            Thanks straff

  65. PieInTheSky

    I don’t think I ever saw numbers as bad as the Lakers bench had.

    Also holly fuck Giannis hit 5 3s

    1. PieInTheSky

      Last day of work this year and I work from home which means I probably will get in an hour of actual work.

    2. straffinrun

      6 in a row for the Bucks over the Lakers. Lakers better pray they don’t have to play them in the Finals. Greek Freak has their number.

      1. PieInTheSky

        meh playoffs are a different beast to regular season. Also I hope the bench does not always stink so and that kuzma comes back doing something. Then again the bucks were without bledsoe

        1. straffinrun

          Not that different considering the styles they are playing. Leaning on KCP to score makes them mediocre at best. Davis and Lebron are going to have to combine for 60 or so every game to beat the Bucks. Bucks have great perimeter shooting. Lakers have Green. It’d be fun to watch.

  66. dbleagle

    For people who enjoy mechanical engineering the linked film should be a treat. The closeups of the engine in operation are pretty damn impressive. The wheels are 6 feet tall to give you scale, as does the 1,200,000 lbs of metal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4BWsYbJROQ

    1. Gustave Lytton

      UP4014, restored to glory, a couple months ago

      https://youtu.be/5o7wNDh9nh0

    2. Rhywun

      Fun. Amazing how much manpower went into maintaining the thing.

  67. Bob the Builder

    I’m fully spent out and need some gas money to get to Vegas and the wife, this sucks 90 miles one way, I m getting really lost here,
    https://www.paypal.me/yusefthehomeless

    1. Bob the Builder

      The thing is, the money is close, and I can’t get into rent money, so a bunch of round trips to Vegas is not a good thing.,

  68. Bob the Builder

    Please help, this assistance is greatly appreciated, off to Vegas, I’ll be back!

  69. hayeksplosives

    First World aproblems.

    But also I avoid Christmas shopping I person mainly because of the parking and driving.

    Amazon and Costco delivery to the rescue!!

    1. hayeksplosives

      Apparently I’m too tipsy to type.

  70. Festus

    I avoid Xmas altogether. Wifey still shops and spends time with the family but I could give a. Too many bad Xmas memories for this fellow so once the kids reached a certain age I just checked out. I don’t mind giving gifts but receiving them makes me intensely uncomfortable. Daughter #1 plays along and buys me a bag of tube socks every year because I said once about twenty years ago “That’s all I want!” Don’t get me started on turkey…

    1. hayeksplosives

      Totally agree. Christmas gift giving is great for kids. You can create magical memories if you do it right.

      But kids are grown and gone now. We PayPal them some cash to help them spend on their own kids and selves, but other than that, we put up a pre lit tree and call it good.

      1. You don’t get your tree stoned yourself?

        1. hayeksplosives

          Lol

      2. hayeksplosives

        One of my fave Christmas memories was waking up to rush to the fireplace where the stockings were and find all the Star Wars action figures ( the 12 inch class ones, slightly bigger than Barbie) all arranged and posed around the mantle and fireplace.

        Han and Chewie were pointing their weapons at something imaginary, Obi and Vader had their lightsabers clashed, C3p0 and R2 were just chilling by the woodpile, and Luke and Leia were rappelling against the hearth wall from the grappling hook that came with Luke’s belt.

        They had flexible joints and such, so mom and big brother had carefullyvstaged everything as photo accurate to the movie poses as possible. This was probably 1980.

        Good times.

      3. Festus

        Wifey #1 used to squirrel away dollars and buy year-round. Her family was super into it so much so that you would spend literally hours unwrapping presents. Go big or go home! I choose to go home and have beers.

  71. Suthenboy

    I took the wife to the restaurant last night. She is kind of on her feet now. She can walk short distances with a cane. I got her in and seated with her buddies and then left to do some quick shopping. I wanted A) a holster for a 3″, J-frame S&W and B) More sour cherry jam. Quick errands, right?
    I couldn’t find the holster, of course. I did find some Hodgton 110 powder but they wanted 35 bucks/lb. They did have 1100 22lr for 60 bucks. They did have some great 240gr Barnes xtp bullets in .429 but they wanted 35 bucks for that. I ended up walking around with that stuff and then putting it back on the shelf. I don’t need to spend that kind of money, dammit. I already have bushels of all of that. So, I chose a decent Gerber folding knife they wanted 8 bucks for and went to the registers. There were 100 people lined up.
    I put the knife back, grumbled some curses and walked out of the store. I didnt even bother going in the other store for the cherry preserves.
    I will go shopping again after Xmas. Now, get the hell off of my lawn.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Amazon, etsy, and eBay for the win!

      1. Suthenboy

        MidwayUSA is my favorite place to shop. Brownells, a close second.

    2. Suthenboy

      Oh, I forgot this amusing anecdote.
      We have a new puppy. The muttiest little mutt rescue you can imagine, but he is cute as hell and completely harmless. He is a puppy and so he does what puppies do – an ankle biting piss machine that chews everything. He was attempting to sneak a few bites on my leather holster that my J-frame 38 is in. It was on the top of the bedside table. He dragged it off of the table top and the pistol fell onto the tile floor. Of course it landed on the corner of the rear sight and bent it. No matter how much you think I cursed, you would be wrong….it was worse.
      Anyway, I managed to find and order a new rear sight assembly but I am still looking for a more secure and protective holster.

      1. Festus

        That poor Puppy! What if the death machine had decided to kill him? Red Flag!!!!

        1. Festus

          Nice to hear that your spouse is ambulatory once again. Just after I went back to work after getting sick Wifey hurt her shoulder again. This “getting old” stuff can go piss up a rope. Our poor little house is so cluttered that I don’t know whether to shit or go blind.

          1. Suthenboy

            I am sorry to hear that you have my sympathy. Since the wife has been down I cant go anywhere and it has given me an opportunity to unclutter/clean/organize.