Friday Morning Links

13 goals in one game? That must have been fun to watch.

I’ve been out of the loop for two days, to say the least.  What can I say? Sometimes work just materializes out of nowhere and you gotta jump on it. This was most definitely one of those times.  But I’m back today to resume my duties.  And from the look of the sports news from yesterday, I didn’t miss much.  Almost nothing happened of note except the following hockey results: Dallas, NYI, Philly, Columbus, Ottawa, Chicago, Carolina, Montreal, the MINNESOOOOOOODA WIIIIILD, and Vancouver were your winners.  That’s. That’s all of sports.

“Look into my eyes”

Doctor Samuel Mudd (made famous by a Nic Cage movie) was born on this day. As were rubber tire magnate Harvey Firestone, baseball exec Branch Rickey, actress Irene Dunne, olympian and football player Bob Hayes, spoon-bender Uri Geller, TV “creator” Dick Wolf, cutting-edge music producer Alan Parsons, actor Jonah Hill, and soccer player Kylian Mbappe.

Jeez, the birthdays are as bad as the lack of sports stories. Let’s hope we find something better with…the links!

“Bye, EU. It’s been fun, now jog on.”

Man, when Boris says he wants to vote on Brexit before Christmas, apparently he means it. If only he’d had the foresight to mail out a turd in a box to put under every Remoaner’s tree.

Apparently, the Dems are convinced the majority set rules only when they’re in the majority. Best of luck, Nancy and Chuck.  But this ain’t how it work and you know it.

Man, there’s a bunch of butthurt Harry Potter fans out there today. I guess the tolerant left doesn’t extend their tolerance to people with differing views on free speech.

Give a Chicago teacher a rope, he thinks he’s a cowboy hangman. If you’re surprised by this, you know little about Chicago Public Schools or their teachers union.

The Epstein videotape shitshow continues. I’m sure this is totally legit and there’s nothing to see here, folks.  Move along. Move along.

“Pete waiting for his opportunity to mansplain”
-lefty media
“Pete being hectored”
-everyone else

The Pete and Lizzie show took center stage at the Dom debate last night.  Meanwhile, Uncle Joe stuttered intentionally and people (stupidly) went nuts about it.  Which is sad. It was probably the most logical point anyone on the stage made all night.

I wonder if the cause of this will ever be released. “No intoxication signs at the scene” though. Except for the smashed wreckage of the car that had been going the wrong way early in the morning.

Just in case you were wondering, this is where we all live. Hope you enjoy.

Now go have a great day, friends. And enjoy what I hope is the start of a long time off.

Comments

682 responses to “Friday Morning Links”

  1. Pat

    If only he’d had the foresight to mail out a turd in a box to put under every Remoaner’s tree.

    Trump more or less did that to the Democrats.

    1. I like how the letter he included is labeled “rambling” without showing what it says.

      Although based on what he usually writes, it probably is rambling. And it’s meant to trigger the recipients. Which obviously worked.

      1. blackjack

        It’s “sick” and twisted!

      2. Jarflax

        You don’t read Sugar Free?

        1. Enough About Palin

          No one reads Sugar Free. It’s simply experienced.

  2. Pat

    Apparently, the Dems are convinced the majority set rules only when they’re in the majority.

    Couldn’t you just adopt the federal rules of procedure, or just cop the rules from the last 2 impeachment trials the senate held?

    1. Well, the Johnson impeachment trial was like, over 100 yers ago and stuff.

    2. blackjack

      What eva, I do what I want.

  3. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Send that judge to the woodchipper:

    On Wednesday, a judge ruled against Forstater, who had filed a complaint against the think tank, the Center for Global Development, which works to reduce global poverty. The judge said Forstater’s speech violated the “dignity” of transgender people and was not protected under U.K. law.

    “Some transgender people have cosmetic surgery, but most retain their birth genitals,” Forstater wrote in one tweet. “Everyone’s equality and safety should be protected, but women and girls lose out on privacy, safety and fairness if males are allowed into changing rooms, dormitories, prisons, sports teams.”

    We must deny reality because it offends crazy people.

    1. leon

      “violated the “dignity” of transgender people ”

      Dignity is now something you have a right to be given from people.

      1. Rhywun

        It certainly trumps silly notions of “free speech” that some of them seem to think they possess.

  4. I meant to include this in the links.

    Gee, I wonder if the sentence would have been the same if it were, say, an American flag. Or a confederate flag. Methinks he would have been prosecuted for trespassing and petty theft and ordered to pay a small fine and restitution.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Adolfo Martinez, 30, of Ames, was sentenced Wednesday to 15 years for the hate crime of arson and given a year for reckless use of explosives or fire and 30 days for harassment.

      WTF

      1. Rebel Scum

        Thought-crime. And am I missing something because if he just burned the flag it ain’t ‘arson’.

      2. Not Adahn

        You misspelled Adolf Matrin.

    2. Im guessing he made the tactical error of leaving the thing attached to the building. That’s a 15 year oops.

      Also, you know who else was named Adolf and destroyed a fag… erm, I mean flag?

      1. leon

        No it was just the flag. The hate crime felony is bullshit.

      2. He tore it down and burned it away from the building.

        1. That’s… disappointing.

    3. Pat

      I’m sure the criminal justice reform crowd will be all over this one.

    4. Tonio

      Hopefully this will get overturned as excessive and he’ll hopefully get a far more reasonable sentence (for arson; hate crime is BS). And note that his current sentence is sixteen years, thirty days since the judge is having him serve them consecutively.

    5. WTF

      Sure because fuck the first amendment. And fuck the eighth amendment too!

      1. Enough About Palin

        You just don’t understand. Burning the American flag is free speech; burning the fag flag is a hate-crime.

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      Huh? For real?

      I thought it was ‘free speech’ to burn the U.S. flag but LBGTQ it becomes ‘hate’? How the heck do they work out that logic considering in the former it includes ALL citizens? Seems to me burning the U.S. flag, then, should fetch a life sentence if this is the case.

      Nuts.

    7. Not Adahn

      Step 1: Hold an anti-abortion protest on a college campus in Iowa.
      Step 2: Videotape your signs getting stolen and destroyed by students, faculty and staff.
      Step 3: Use this case as leverage to get professors fired, students expelled, and the university to give you megabux (of which 65% will go to your lawyer).

      1. Step 0: form a legal defense “nonprofit” which hires the legal services, allowing you to use the legal fees to finance the next protest.

        1. Not Adahn

          To make it crystal clear that the sign-rippers are doubleplusungood hatcrimers, the legal defense nonprofit should also be a religious organization. Like “The West Ames Islamic Society Togetherhood.”

          1. Jarflax

            Mothers Opposing Literal Extremism, Sexism and Transphobia.

          2. pan fried wylie

            Families United Crusade of Kings Youth Organization Unit, Teachers Helpers / Assistants and Tutors Working for HumanitY

    8. Trespassing
      Theft
      Destruction of Property
      Arson maybe.

  5. Pat

    Man, there’s a bunch of butthurt Harry Potter fans out there today. I guess the tolerant left doesn’t extend their tolerance to people with differing views on free speech.

    The irony is that Rowling has spent the last 5 years on Twitter playing intersectional bingo with all of her characters.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is that Rowling gave the lunatics an opportunity to hoist their victimhood flag and gain cred by attacking her.

      This is purely about social signaling and climbing to the top of the intersectional grievance pile by tearing down someone with notoriety,

      1. Exactly. And they should be tearing her down for her hypocrisy on immigration rather than her defending someone’s right to speak their mind.

      2. PieInTheSky

        Yeah but something tells me it won’t matter outside twitter

        1. Pat

          I mean she’s retired anyway, right? What are they gonna do, go burn the 20 year old books from which she already pocketed a billion dollars?

          1. PieInTheSky

            damnatio memoriae

          2. I get the impression the loss of validation and the slinging of barbs on twitter will hurt her far more than any monetary losses. I don’t get the sense of an emotionally self-sufficient person from her.

          3. PieInTheSky

            stick and stone and tweets may break my bones

          4. invisible finger

            I think she retired Harry Potter, I think she still writes novels.

            Your money and property is never safe around a totalitarian.

          5. Not Adahn

            Over/under on when she claims that X character has always been trans? Want to get a pool together on which character that is? My money is on McGonagal, Which would make McGonagalXDumbledore even more squeeriffic!

          6. Certified Public Asshat

            In that world at least magic can change anything.

          7. It’ll be a student. Could end up being Granger with that mannish jaw Watson has.
            But my guess would be Luna Lovegood.

          8. Not Adahn

            In that world at least magic can change anything.

            There was a response to JKR’s tweet where someone said “I as a trans person always wanted to know how people like me would be accommodated at Hogwarts.”

            Would be accommodated.

            Not painlessly and perfectly transitioned.

            Their fantasy was having other people go out of their way and make an effort to serve them. To be given authority over other people by virtue of their glorious transness.

          9. Jarflax

            If they could be magically transformed that would leave them an ordinary woman not a special snowflake. I suspect the people actually suffering from dysphoria would be all over the magic cure. The other 95% of the ‘trans’ community are in it for the attention. In other words Blair White casts Vaginapeara, her opponents react the way the deaf mafia reacted to cochlear implants*, by accusing the spell of genocide.

            *for those who don’t remember here, gaze upon the face of evil

          10. Rhywun

            The trans movement is all about conforming to gender stereotypes. How they square that with cissies who are increasingly being demonized for “conforming” to their stereotypes is a complete mystery to me.

          11. The Last American Hero

            McGonagal is the the transfiguration teacher, so it makes total sense. As far as the student who wondered how they would be accepted at Hogwarts, they would have trouble if they are male identifying as female. You can’t access the girls’ section of the dorm if you have a cock. The boys tried. So the answer is they’d sleep in the boy section of the dorm.

          12. pan fried wylie

            You can’t access the girls’ section of the dorm if you have a cock.

            Demonstrating the hateful nature of magic, why it should be prohibited, and henceforth Hogwarts will just be a normal boarding school.

            #Diversctory

          13. Grummun

            She’s written four murder mysteries under a pseudonym, “Robert Galbraith.” And at least one non-YA novel, The Casual Vacancy, under her own name. And she’s still milking the “Fantastic Beasts” thing.

          14. Scruffy Nerfherder

            My brain reads that as she’s still milking the “Fantastic Breasts” thing

          15. Oh, the softcore parody.

          16. Not Adahn

            The Casual Vacancy is one of the very few books that I stopped reading partway through.

          17. The Last American Hero

            So was Luke Skywalker in the The Last Jedi.

    2. Recognizing the difference in sex and gender, even to the identity-group victim class is fraught with peril. Maybe she should have cast a confounds charm on them or something instead of tweeting her genuine opinion.

    3. PieInTheSky

      Did J.K. Rowling just destroy the legacy of Harry Potter with a single, transphobic tweet?

      https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1207752503833612290

      1. Read the replies to her actual tweet. There’s a lot of people out there who treated these books like Shakespeare and/or claim it was their only relief from the harsh, cruel world of…differing opinions.

        1. robc

          For much of an entire generation, they are the only books that exists. I can’t think of another generation that relied on such a small set of literature. Maybe the bible or the koran.

          Hmmm…apparently bible is okay, but koran should be capitalized. Well, nope, not doing it.

          1. Pat

            It’s actually B.I.B.L.E.

            Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth

            (my lame ass youth pastor actually had the gall to use that line on a bunch of high school freshman)

          2. JD is Unemployed

            Planet Earth about to be recycled! Your only chance to survive is to come with us!

          3. Caput Lupinum

            Bible should be capitalized if you are referring to the holy book of christianity specifically, since that is the title and titles are capitalized, same for the Koran. Unlike Koran though, the word bible can be used as nonspecific noun, in which case it wouldn’t be capitalized. For example, “My grandmother’s recipes are my culinary bible.”

          4. Enough About Palin

            You forgot to capitalize Culinary.

          5. pan fried wylie

            Programming a spellchecker would be a cause for me to find a new career.

      2. I like how tweets and responses are news. They’re not.

    4. PieInTheSky

      whatever happened to I disagree with what you say but I defend your right to say it

      1. blackjack

        Don’t get out much?

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder
      3. Nephilium

        That’s hate speech now.

      4. Rufus the Monocled

        /faints.

    5. Certified Public Asshat

      As a gay man that found safety in Hogwarts throughout my childhood – knowing that Trans people wouldn’t be able to have that safety breaks my heart.— Shahmir Sanni شاه مير ساني (@shahmiruk) December 19, 2019

      Not satire.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Oscar Wilde hardest hit.

      2. leon

        You don’t remember the scene where Voldemort reveals that he identifies as a woman, and Harry and all the gang get to gether and beat the shit out of him?

        1. Not Adahn

          Voldemort was a serpent-kin. Even Harry Potterites hate furries.

        2. pan fried wylie

          “that’s how this trans thing works, right, I chopped off my nose, good to go?”

  6. Atanarjuat

    Opposition Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn described it as “terrible” and said his party would not be supporting the bill.

    “This deal does not bring certainty for communities or for business or for the workforce, in fact it does the opposite and hardwires the risk of a no-deal Brexit next year,” he said.

    *image of cowboy saying “Well, darn.”*

    1. hayeksplosives

      That’s pretty much what the voters indicated they wanted , right? This guy is more loyal to the EU than to his own nation.

      Get bent.

      1. JD is Unemployed

        He actually doesn’t like the EU, as far as I can tell, because “free trade”, or something. I believe he wanted out in his own way, so he could make his Worker’s Paradise on his own terms, but couldn’t come out and say that without confounding most of his votership. He doesn’t seem to have talked about it much – mostly kept quiet during the campaigns before the referendum, and since has just been anti-whatever the tories propose in terms of a deal, without offering any real alternatives, and that seems to be enough for his supporters.

      2. Not Adahn

        Of course he prefers the EU. Europe knew how to keep (((them))) in (((their))) place.

    2. I give Corbyn credit for evolving. I mean, he had a chance to blame the Jews but refrained.

      There’s hope for him yet.

      1. Drake

        Well… He probably assumes it doesn’t need to be said…

  7. Rebel Scum

    For 2A Sanctuaries, The Big Question Is “What Happens Next?”

    If commonwealth’s attorneys are saying that their office has to reflect the will of the community when it comes to drug laws, then their office should reflect the will of the community when it comes to enforcement of any of Governor Ralph Northam’s proposed gun laws as well. In dozens of counties, cities, and towns, the will of the voters is to not infringe on the Second Amendment rights of residents. In Virginia and elsewhere, citizens who’ve come out in support of Second Amendment Sanctuary resolutions need to engage with their sheriffs and prosecutors to encourage them to take a stand and to follow the lead of their colleagues who are already using their discretion when it comes to enforcement of some drug offenses.

    David Campbell says it’s also important to use the power of the ballot box. Did your county officials adopt wishy-washy language instead of a robust Second Amendment Sanctuary resolution or ordinance? Yes, you should absolutely vote them out, but in many states its also possible to gather signatures and put a resolution of your own before voters in your city or county.

    The most important thing is to keep the momentum going by working with local gun owners and elected officials to ensure that the movement doesn’t fade away once a resolution has been passed. Stay engaged, stay involved, and don’t give up.

    1. Pat

      If commonwealth’s attorneys are saying that their office has to reflect the will of the community when it comes to drug laws, then their office should reflect the will of the community when it comes to enforcement of any of Governor Ralph Northam’s proposed gun laws as well.

      That’s different!

    2. Tonio

      While this movement may not accomplish much since the feds and state agencies can still swoop in, it is causing a huge amount of butthurt among the grabbers and other right-thinking people. They didn’t expect this and it scares them.

      1. Drake

        That would light the fuse. Imagine Waco or Ruby Ridge except locals start picking off Feds from behind while the local cops look the other way and actively inform the local militia.

      2. It all depends on the fortitude of the citizens and how lightly or heavily the state and fed governments tread.

        I’m really really not looking forward to being in the middle of this tinderbox. This shit isn’t going to happen in the middle of the red bloc of counties. It’s going to happen in a reddish purple county on the edge of a major metropolitan area.

        1. Pat

          Waco 2: Electric Boogaloo

        2. Chipwooder

          Like, say, Henrico. Lucky me.

          1. More likely in Chesterfield County than Henrico. There are a lot more “southerners” in Matoaca and Chester than Short Pump and Glen Allen.

          2. Chipwooder

            True about Short Pump, but Glen Allen is kind of weird. For every Todd and Muffy Tesla-driving McMansion owner in Twin Hickory, there is a redneck living in a little house set back in the woods off Mountain Rd with a Gadsden flag license plate.

            I myself live in Glen Allen. Parts of it are still pretty country.

      1. Tundra

        Awesome.

      2. Rhywun

        Look at plucky Wyoming County, NY! ?

        1. Not Adahn

          I signed the Saratoga County petition. I don’t know if there’s any progress with it though.

    3. The big question is, however, will the National Guard actually turn out to put down the rebellion and/or actually take the guns?

      Will they turn out at all? Dunno.

      If they do, will they obey orders? Dunno.

      The Dems seem to think they’ll obey orders and get to confiscating without an actual question in their minds as to whether they will or not.

      The sanctuary counties seem to think they are going to have a fight on their hands.

      But will they?

      1. Tundra

        I don’t think so. I think this movement has taken the grabbers completely by surprise.

        I’ve said it before – this is going to start showing up in the polling and a lot of politicians are going to quietly drop their ideas.

      2. Drake

        Like the rest of society, the National Guard will be split. I seriously doubt the VA National Guard’s Stonewall Brigade will turn out in force to seize guns. If they try to use them this way there would be desertions, mutinies, dead officers, and maybe firefights for control of the arms locker.

        1. This is why they’ll pick a bluish purple county with a reddish purple sub-district. They know that most of the citizens and LEOs will support them, and they won’t have to call the national guard. At the very worst, they wait until somebody gets shot and go all Reno on the wrongthinkers.

          1. Chipwooder

            Thing is, though, I truly believe that the majority of the local gentry libs are fairly soft in their gun control support. They do support it, but not to the extend of wanting armed agents of the state to forcibly impose it. The kind of pushback we’re seeing has shocked them, I think.

          2. Jarflax

            Most of the (non-politician) supporters of gun control are quite sincerely surprised when educated conservatives and libertarians oppose them. In their minds gun control is about taking guns away from scary Black people, Mexicans, and methhead Hillbillies. Obviously educated professionals can get a permit for a shotgun, or even some pistol if they really want it, so why wouldn’t you want guns taken away from those people?

            The politicians view is not that different, they just expand those people to include all of us.

  8. leon

    LMan, there’s a bunch of butthurt Harry Potter fans out there today. I guess the tolerant left doesn’t extend their tolerance to people with differing views on free speech”

    You guys have ruined my Twitter feed. All I get is a bunch of intellectual runts talking about JK Rowling’s tweet shows she hates trans people.

  9. robc

    Resolved: Branch Rickey did more for race relations in this country than any other single individual.

    Pick a side and go.

    1. leon

      Is that like Ricky Ricardo?

      1. Not Adahn

        Ricky Bobby?

    2. Don Escaped the SouthWestConference

      I’ll allow it.

      Cardinals had home first. Also kinda invented farm team system.

      1. robc

        The thing is, I doubt Rickey did it for any moral reason. Signing Robinson gave the Dodgers a competitive advantage.

        1. Jarflax

          That is the best path to racial peace. The virtue signalling path gets us idiocy like hiring quotas and arguments about which minorities count for which purposes because people are stupid and cannot understand the contradiction between:

          1. It is immoral to deny black people the same inherent rights as anyone else.

          2. Morality requires that we give black people special treatment

        2. Chipwooder

          I’ve read that Rickey had both motivations. When Rickey was a young man, he coached a college team that included a black player, and he saw firsthand how difficult it was for them to travel to road games as a team given the generally segregated accommodations and services they’d find. People who knew him said that it angered him and later drove him to pursue the integration of baseball. However, the prospect of cornering the market on the best black ballplayers certainly didn’t hurt either.

          1. He was also a Wesleyan, who were ardent abolitionists.

    3. Fourscore

      He did, because he wanted to win and to do that one needs the best talent available. Check the NFL and NBA rosters for confirmation.

    4. Nah. I’d say Truman did by integrating the military. That was about as big a deal as you could imagine. It ushered out separate but equal and ushered in actual civil rights legislation and overturning Plessy v Ferguson in the courts.

      1. robc

        I think that is a legit argument. My counter would be that it was effective for the people who served in the integrated military, but didn’t affect American culture as a whole (at least not right away). Jackie Robinson, on the other hand, had more of a widespread effect. The images of a southern white boy like Pee Wee Reese putting his arm around his black teammate sent a message.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I think having to live with a bunch of guys from different races/places in the military is one of the best things about it. Since all of you are getting shit on by superiors it binds you together in a real us/them dynamic.

          Seeing Jackie Robinson playing baseball might have had some effect in an intellectual way, but banding together with your platoon had a much deeper and more profound impact.

          A great time machine experiment would be to go back and run the experiment where one or the other happened but not both.

          My gut tells me that integration of the military would have had a deeper impact, but it would have taken longer. With just Robinson playing, it might have had a faster spread, but it wouldn’t have been as deep.

          1. Chipwooder

            This. The Lance Corporal Underground is a beacon of racial harmony, because you’re all getting fucked with equally.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Yup. This Lance Coolie who came from a sheltered middle class background had his eyes opened up when he found out that The Man really existed and was out to fuck you.

        2. Fourscore

          Willie Nelson kissing Charlie Pride on the lips on TV didn’t hurt either.

          Though the military was integrated, socially it was still mostly segregated. In the ’50s in Europe there were still black bars and white bars. In ’66 I had a black room mate at Ft Benning, we went to a supper club in Phoenix City, Smitty didn’t want to go in but the other two said we’re going in together or out together. Not an eye brow was raised.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Charley Pride is a BIG dude. Did Willie have a choice in the matter?

            True Story: My home town has a big country music fest every summer. The stars stay at the Holiday Inn where I worked in high school.

            One year Charlie Pride was playing the festival. He was upstairs and the limo showed up to take him to the festival. I had just gotten off work and was hanging out at the front desk when the driver came in. At the time I didn’t realize it, but my (Member’s Only) jacket was a close match to the ones Pride’s posse wore. So the driver tells me that the car is ready and can I let Charlie know. It was clear he thought I was part of the group and I could get into the car.

            I was ready to go, but the gal working the front desk burst into laughter about me being mistaken for a roadie. So she blew my chance. However, when Charlie came down and I saw how big he was, I am sort of glad I wasn’t sitting in the back of that car. He’s 6′ 5″ or so.

    5. invisible finger

      No. Sports fans exaggerate the meaningfulness of sports. 90% of any given population couldn’t give two fucks about the most popular sport in the area.

      1. I’d put the number closer to 65%.
        80% of women and 50% of men generally don’t care about sports at all.

        But that other 35% is still a significant number of people. And you’ll also have a not-insignificant part of the other 65% that see a transcendent social movement like baseball integration in such a positive light that they pay attention to and applaud the move Rickey made.

        1. invisible finger

          Your percentage is probably close to sports in general, but for any given sport I think my number is accurate.

          In any case, and I am going to sound arrogant writing this, higher-level sports is “skilled labor” and wherever skilled labor is needed traits like race, creed, etc. become superficial to getting the job done. Perhaps “unskilled labor”‘s first appreciation/exposure for skilled labor comes from sports/showbiz but even at that level the average fan still thinks “I could probably do that.” It’s when you get to scientific fields where the average unskilled labor admits they probably couldn’t do “that job”. So I wouldn’t say Branch Rickey “did more” for race relations, though he certainly helped. But I’m old enough to remember when Italians were barred as an unwritten rule so I think drawing the line at African-Americans is still selecting a convenient endpoint.

          1. pan fried wylie

            It’s a convenient endpoint for not being a grey area. *ducks*

      2. Chipwooder

        I don’t think that was true of 1947 America. Baseball was a dominant cultural force at the time.

        1. Jarflax

          Was it really? Or is it just that baseball had a strong appeal to a segment of the population that is over represented in writing, and therefore became a common trope in literature, movies and TV?

          Yes I am in fact blaming the (((Jews))) specifically the Brooklyn and New York cohorts. I think actual sports fans are somewhere in the range being discussed, but most people who are not fans are not actively hostile to it so we tend to either shut up when the nuts are raving or play along. I think fans are making a poor decision from the standpoint of happiness:misery ratios, but except when the rival hate turns into hate for the other fans I don’t see any harm in it, and try to at least be aware enough of events to make small talk.

        2. invisible finger

          Baseball was a dominant SPORTS cultural force, but that was the extent of it. And that’s because the NBA didn’t exist, the NHL was miniscule, and the NFL was considered corrupt (they play on the Lord’s day!). Horse racing and boxing were more popular with the average bettors, with college sports behind that. Baseball being played nearly every day during the season keeps it in the spotlight, so it gets more column inches but that may not be the best measurement of cultural significance, although its lack of inherent violence has some appeal.

      3. Not as much in the 1940s, however.

  10. Atanarjuat

    Tulip, I saw that you’re traveling to the Daytona area Saturday. My condolences. I’m about 30 minutes away, but Saturday is my day to drive to another town, where my son lives, to spend time with him. How long are you staying? Shoot me an email at riveruntomypeople at Gmail if ya want.

    1. Atanarjuat

      *condolences because it’s the tackiest beach town in FL, but I’m sure you can have a decent time nonetheless.

      1. Spartacus

        That’s a pretty high bar. Ft Myers beach is right up there. And then there’s Panama City, which is probably in a different league.

  11. JD is Unemployed

    Apparently Donald Glover is working for Andrew Yang now, as his campaign creative consultant, or something. Hopefully this means a one-take music video of a shirtless Yang, strutting around rapping about math, magical economics, etc.

    1. PieInTheSky

      #yanggang

      1. pan fried wylie

        #yangganggoestopyongyangincatamaran

    2. Not Adahn

      I thought he was “too old for this shit” and was three days from retirement and going to read Saltwater Sportsman magazine.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Glover is like the black version of James Franco and just as narcissistic and tiresome.

    4. Rhywun

      Whelp, there goes my appetite.

    5. Chipwooder

      Crispin Glover would be much more interesting.

      1. pan fried wylie

        UCS’s Glovemaker would be much more interesting.

  12. Pat

    The Epstein videotape shitshow continues.

    It was found in an old janitor closet right next to the missing 18 minutes of the Nixon tapes and the video shot from the grassy knoll.

    1. JD is Unemployed

      And a signed confession from Seth Rich’s assailant?

      1. leon

        No but they did find a notarized document attached to Epstein stating that Hillary Clinton had nothing to do with his death.

        1. Jarflax

          It is signed Geoffrey Epstine. Seems legit

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Was there a bag with Hoffa’s skeleton in there too?

    3. The Last American Hero

      And the backup files of both Hillary Clinton and Lois Lerrner.

  13. Yesterday I’d flippantly declared “A Few Dollars More” better than “A Fistful of Dollars” because it wasn’t a Yojimbo remake. I hadn’t seen them in years, so had mostly vague memories.

    I watched both back to back yesterday afternoon, so I have some real opinions.

    I still say “A Few Dollars More” is the better movie, but for two reasons – character and acting. The characters in “A Fistful of Dollars” just came off as flat, and much of the acting one-dimensional. In “A Few Dollars More” there was the distinct impression of depth, even if it was more implied than scripted. Plus, the performances were much more expressive. Without a single verbal cue, the actor who played Indio provided a full spectrum from menace to madness to melancholy, and it was the scenes with forced maniacal laughter that were the worst/least effective demonstration of the villain’s character. Plus, the interaction between Eastwood and Van Cleef far exceeded anything the previous film could serve up. Sure, the plot is simpler, but that’s not always a bad thing. It was just executed better.

    1. leon

      I’m with you UCS. I liked them both, but if I had to pick one as better it’s for a few dollars more.

      Hang em high is free on prime, do y’all recommend it?

      1. I don’t remember the content off the top of my head. (If I started watching that would probably change, but I don’t think I’ve seen it in ages)

      2. R C Dean

        Any Clint Eastwood Spaghetti Western is worth watching. Of course, I grew up on them, so that probably affects my opinion.

      3. Stillhunter

        It’s a great movie. Lots more to it than a simple western.

        1. Tundra

          Where the hell have you been?

          Nice to see you, dude!

          1. Where the hell have you been

            Hunting?

          2. MikeS

            Still?

          3. Jarflax

            Hmmm, Stillhunting sounds like something ATF agents do in Kentucky, shortly before they disappear.

      4. KSuellington

        Yes, Hang em High is great. Def watch.

        1. Also High Plains Drifter, although it’s not included with prime it’s only 4$ to rent and features a midget.

          1. Tundra

            Pale Rider is excellent, too.

          2. Jarflax

            I believe the correct titling is Tall Shane.

          3. I don’t remember a midget in Pale Rider.

          4. Jarflax

            No the midget was in original Shane. He played Shane.

          5. Chipwooder

            “There’s nothin’ like a good piece of hickory”

    2. PieInTheSky

      I remember neither movie

      1. Then you should watch them.

        1. Sensei

          +1 and Yojimbo too.

          1. Jarflax

            Yojimbo challenge watch Yojimbo, Fistful of Dollars, and Last Man Standing back to back to back. I’m betting no one can finish Last Man Standing if they do this.

          2. Three movies in a row? of course not.

          3. Oh, I used to go to the theater for a whole day, watching one movie after another back to back. Saw a lot of awesome movies that way.

      1. Tres Cool

        I think I know what Im doing tonight when I sit down with a 12-pack.
        That looks great.

      2. Chipwooder

        Hah, I haven’t watched Kentucky Fried Movie in a long time.

        “Take him to Detroit!”

  14. Pat

    Just in case you were wondering, this is where we all live

    The video not being Yellow Submarine was a cruel troll.

  15. PieInTheSky

    Global Correlates of Cardiovascular Risk: A Comparison of 158 Countries

    https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/10/4/411/htm

    To our knowledge, the present study is the first that has compared the complete global statistics of CVD prevalence with the nutrition statistics from the FAOSTAT database. The results show that the contemporary CVD statistics have certain limitations that must be taken into account during the interpretation of the results. In particular, men’s statistics of CVD mortality seem to be very unreliable. In addition, there are some specific confounding factors, especially the religious ban on alcohol and pork in Muslim countries, which simultaneously consume the highest amount of cereals and wheat in the world, and suffer from very high obesity rates. Besides this, the analysis of potential CVD risk factors is not complete, due to the lack of data on smoking prevalence (which was limited to 115 countries). Salt (sodium) consumption could be another important risk factor, but these statistics were analyzed elsewhere [28] and are based only on urinary excretion or estimated dietary intake from 66 countries. Therefore, our study should be taken mainly as a sort of pioneering one in this regard, and due to its ecological (country-level) methodology, it should primarily be viewed as descriptive.
    Still, after an exhaustive analysis, we can say that in all the statistical comparisons that have been made, the indicators of CVDs always show the most consistent association with high carbohydrate consumption, especially in the form of high-glycaemic cereals, in particular wheat. Other suspect variables are alcohol (mainly in its distilled form) and sunflower oil, but their roles are limited to Europe where their consumption rates are sufficiently high.

  16. PieInTheSky

    High Compared with Moderate Protein Intake Reduces Adaptive Thermogenesis and Induces a Negative Energy Balance during Long-term Weight-Loss Maintenance in Participants with Prediabetes in the Postobese State: A PREVIEW Study

    https://academic.oup.com/jn/advance-article/doi/10.1093/jn/nxz281/5637681

    1. Fourscore

      I don’t know what all that means but I have an idea that one day I’ll have a Negative Energy Balance.

      1. PieInTheSky

        I means if you want long term weight loss it helps to eat more protein

        1. Pat

          Thank god we had science to let us in on that after half a century of pushing high plains veganism instead of just believing our lying eyes.

          1. PieInTheSky

            not much vegan to eat on the high plains

            Flora
            Typical plant communities of the region are shortgrass prairie, prickly pear cacti and scrub. Sagebrush steppe is also present, particularly in high and dry areas closer to the Rocky Mountains.

          2. Pat

            That was my attempt at a joke since we’ve been variously scolded to avoid meat, dairy, and wheat products depending on the latest regression analysis of 60 year old epidemiology studies.

          3. leon

            Have you ever tried to eat sage brush? It’s awful, but it will do wonders for a sore throat.

          4. Not Adahn

            Tuna is vegan.

          5. Jarflax

            Your GF is NOT a dietary staple.

          6. Not Adahn

            I was going for a prickly pear joke, but it might have been a bit too obscure.

          7. From The Onion:

            DESPERATE VEGETARIANS DECLARE COWS PLANTS

            LAS VEGAS — At its annual national conference Saturday, the American Association of Vegans and Vegetarians released results of a detailed in-house study determining that the common beef cow is actually a plant, 100 percent fit for vegetarian consumption.

            “Contrary to what was previously thought, the cow is not a higher form of animal life, capable of thinking and feeling pain,” announced AAVV spokeswoman Denise Chalmers to the large crowd. “Rather, we have found it to be a harmless, non-sentient form of plant life, utterly incapable of experiencing the slightest pain or simplest thought.”

            Chalmers then passed around a large tray of dripping red meat, which the vegetarians in attendance ravenously devoured, feverishly licking the bloody juice from their fingers.

            According to the AAVV researchers who conducted the study, cows feature many of the basic characteristics of plants. In addition to possessing roots, leaves and branches, cows produce pollen, which in the springtime is eagerly devoured by honey bees.

            “The bees swarm feverishly around the cow, eager to get a taste of its delicious nectar,” Chalmers said. “The cow, however, is usually too busy taking up water through its hooves, or ‘roots,’ to even notice.”

            Cows, say researchers, also practice photosynthesis, the process by which plants convert sunlight into chemical energy.

            “When exposed to sunlight, the cow produces chlorophyll,” researcher Darrick Holten explained. “The cow then uses the chlorophyll to produce chemical energy.”

            Added Holten: “A very similar process occurs in chickens.”

            According to Chalmers, the study’s findings will not alter the AAVV’s basic viewpoint. “Animals still should not be eaten, and meat is murder,” she said.
            The study results also shed new light on the reproductive process of cows, which had been shrouded in mystery since the animal was discovered 200 years ago.

            “Cows reproduce much like the common pine tree,” Holten said. “They develop a hard, bristly, fertilized cone, drop it on the ground and await the natural elements of wind, rain and animal life to carry it to open forest territory.”

            Overall reaction at the conference was muted at first, as many of the vegetarians expressed surprise, then glee, at the unexpected announcement. Some rushed madly to the trays of processed lunch meats lined up on buffet tables around the hall, knocking over bystanders and onlookers in a mad dash for freshly carved roast beef.

            “It does not taste anything like meat,” vegetarian Tina Mothersby said. “It’s chewy like a boiled carrot or even like a nice chunk of sourdough bread.”

            Added Chalmers: “Cows are plants, and we feel pretty silly for avoiding them for as long as we have. Inside the stockyard warehouse near my Chicago home is not a meat locker, but a plant locker, and that fetid stench is not one of cow heads festering in a maggot-covered pile, but rather of ripe vegetables ready to be prepared in myriad delicious ways.”

            Due to the overwhelming acceptance on the part of the vegetarian crowd, the AAVV announced plans to move ahead with studies proving that the pig and duck are plants. Mutton, however, is still meat. — Janury 23, 1996

      2. Pope Jimbo

        Uffda. Say it ain’t so Fourscore! Does that mean you might actually have to dip into your vast firewood reserve?

        Personally I would welcome a slowdown in your efforts. My wife holds you up as an example of how much I could be getting done around the house if I worked as hard as you. (and now your complimentary thank you notes to her are opening an entire new front in the Areas I Could Improve war)

        1. Fourscore

          I AM consuming the strategic firewood, looks to be a 4-5 year reserve, after that I’m switching over to the big bottle, in a one person attempt to stave off the Green strategy.

          Look, if you can’t make the future HHs we’ll welcome Mrs Jimbo and her wonderful preparations (plus she works when she’s here).

          1. Pope Jimbo

            plus she works when she’s here

            I’m assuming Mrs Fourscore was watching you type that, because we both know “working” for my wife is called being bossy and meddling by neutral observers.

  17. Rebel Scum

    Liz Wheeler
    @Liz_Wheeler

    Moderator: “Would you be willing to sacrifice potentially hundreds of thousands of blue collar workers in the interest of transitioning to that greener economy?”

    Joe Biden: “The answers yes.”

    1. robc

      And this is why the Democrats are losing the blue collar vote.

      Same is happening in the UK with Labour. They have stopped representing labor, and now represent the leftist elite. And the vote numbers are smaller.

      1. PieInTheSky

        it’s not their fault blue collar people are dumb and uncultured.

        1. Rhywun

          The Dems are confused at the notion that someone would rather work than be on the dole.

          1. Being on the dole is the rational thing to do.

            In economics, we talk about rational actors and what the rational thing to do is.

            When faced with a choice to work versus not work yet get your basic needs met, given that people are putting up with it, not work is the rational thing to do. If one is ambitious, putting aside any personal satisfaction, one will also do work under the table, as little as possible for the most return, to maximize the benefit.

            In short, taking free stuff is the smart thing to do and working for a living and being forced to give those people money is the dumb thing to do.

          2. Jarflax

            Unless, and just hear me out here I know it sounds crazy, actually providing value to whoever pays you gives you a feeling of satisfaction.

          3. From a purely economic standoint, that is not rational.

            To rationally fulfill your personal satisfaction, you would be on the dole AND getting your fix with the time saved in not working for the dole.

          4. Jarflax

            Oh you are being serious. In that case you are ignoring something, and making a common error. You are ignoring the possibility of advancement that is inherent in working, even if only in terms of gaining skills and experience that allow you to find better paying work later, and which is completely absent on the dole. The common error is the claim that:

            From a purely economic standoint, that is not rational.

            To rationally fulfill your personal satisfaction, you would be on the dole AND getting your fix with the time saved in not working for the dole.

            Non monetary exchanges are still economic (more accurately Praxeological, Von Mises was a smart guy). You have exchanged your labor for satisfaction. This is why you feel cheated when people do not thank you.

          5. This is why you feel cheated when people do not thank you.

            I can accept that.

          6. However, you do not need thanks if you are doing it for personal satisfaction, which was your point.

          7. Jarflax

            This is why you feel cheated when people do not thank you.

            refers back to

            Non monetary exchanges are still economic (more accurately Praxeological, Von Mises was a smart guy).

            as an example/evidence of the claim

            You have exchanged your labor for satisfaction.

            is my disputing of your point

          8. is my disputing of your point

            ?

            I know. And I conceded your point by saying “I can accept that.”

            But I added that if it is truly for your personal satisfaction, you shouldn’t feel cheated when you are not thanked. In that case, the gratitude is the satisfaction. When you don’t get it and you feel cheated, you have expended your labor needlessly.

          9. However, you can often make more by working than taking the dole and doing under the table work.

          10. Cost-benefit analysis.

            If you have kids, staying home and working the system once a month is more rational than working, juggling childcare, arranging transportation and/or the cost/expense of having and maintaining a car five days a week. Add in doctor visits (which are also paid for by someone else) and it is not rational to work IF your level of employability doesn’t net you the same amount of money as the cost of housing (section 8), food, childcare, car maintenance, utilities, and internet (which is necessary to find a job AND work the system, and what if you can’t make it to the library to use the free internet there?).

            This assumes, of course, that one is not employable at an advantageous level.

            For instance, I am simply not advantageously employable outside my home, after having been out of the workforce for 16 years and at my age and with my useless degree. Furthermore, the amount of time I spend every day tending to my family (kids, mom, errands that can only be done during business hours) makes me further unemployable. I would not be at work very much.

            It would be rational for me to attempt to get on the dole (probably unsuccessfully) and find a way to hide my income from my home business.

            But I don’t. Because I have too much pride. This is not rational.

          11. Jarflax

            You are still assuming that your “level of employability” is a constant. It isn’t; it increases based on experience, training and skill, and it decreases based on time spent out of the workforce. There are certainly some people who would be immediately better off on the dole than they are currently, but the part of that group that is better off long term is much smaller.

          12. It is true that I am coming from a position of limited opportunities for advancement.

            I should have specified that, but, admittedly, I didn’t think of it.

          13. Jarflax

            Lol, damn it that is the opposite of the point I am trying to make, and this whole exercise seems to be going arse up. I was trying to cheer you up because you sounded down. Here let me try to be more direct:

            This too shall pass. The wheel (or worm or wyrm as you prefer in your heathen imagery) turns. There will be happy times and good things happening for you again. Bad things today sometimes form the foundation blocks of good things tomorrow. You have talents, eventually they will give you rewards.

          14. Oh. Huh. Well, thank you! I totally wasn’t getting it and I appreciate it.

            In this particular case, I wasn’t bemoaning my own situation. I was just putting out there a fundamental opinion I hold:

            Rational people take free stuff when it’s offered/available.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Annnnd…you’ve lost Wisconsin, Ohio, and Michigan right off the bat. The Trump campaign is going to play that in endless commercials in those states.

      I continue to believe that Clinton’s biggest flub leading up to the 2016 election was boldly announcing that “a lot of coal miners are going to be put out of business” with a cheery smile. Working class people who don’t work in the energy sector see the flippant way in which Democrats gleefully talk about taking away the jobs of other workers and they think “how much longer before they decide my job needs to go away because it offends the morals of upper income voters?”

      1. Sensei

        No, no, no… He will have a plan for “training” and “green jobs” that will have those issues in those issues fixed within days of his triumphant inauguration.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          L

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            R

          2. Not Adahn

            N

          3. Jarflax

            O

          4. Not Adahn

            D

          5. Jarflax

            E

          6. Jarflax

            hah I sabotaged the sabotaging of the meme!

          7. Not Adahn

            Just Say’n loves you now.

          8. Damn it Jarflax!

        2. Tonio

          Coding classes for all!

      2. WTF

        “Why do these stupid deplorables keep voting against their interests?”
        /clueless lefty

  18. PieInTheSky

    Cognitive Disposition to Wine Consumption: How the Brain Is Wired to Select the Perfect Bottle With a Novel Musical Twist

    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnins.2019.01157/full

  19. Oh, not sure where to report this, but the submission page tried to tell me the domain name for my email address wasn’t what I meant. What I’d put in there was the correct address but it kept up an annoying red “Don’t you really mean att.net ?” which would not be my provider. Not sure if that can be or should be turned off, but with this bunch I don’t think that feature will come in handy.

    1. That’s the validation thing in the form plug-in. Nothing I can change without paying for a different plug-in, unfortunately.

      1. Oh well, no big deal.

    2. Go to the dashboard.

      Select POSTS.

      Select ADD NEW.

      Write post.

      Select SUBMIT FOR REVIEW.

      1. Jarflax

        I for one prefer reading the content we have now (yes even including our Wednesday Lunch Launch Diet) and oppose the new Bug Report daily post plan you are suggesting.

      2. I go to the submission page to let them know when I’ve done that.

        It may be overkill, but I wasn’t told to stop.

  20. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    https://twitter.com/ODonnell4NH/status/1207811808549097474

    “At an event for @TulsiGabbard in Manchester, NH. She couldn’t make it because she stayed in DC to do her job and Vote in Congress. But she livestreamed in, and her first shoutout was to Libertarians, calling for @nsarwark by name.”

    Tulsi is obviously trying to appeal to libertarians in NH, but I wager that shouting out Nick Sarwark is not the way to do it.

    1. leon

      No one on the left had given her a chance. Of course she’d prioritize people who have supported her despite disagreeing with her.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        She remains popular with the Green kind of populist left-wing voter. Granted there is a small number of those, so of course she would try to get libertarians in NH, but I think she’d be better served pimping the kind words Ron Paul has said about her than shouting out perhaps the least popular person in the LP. But, I may be wrong on that

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Plus, Gabbard is popular with ANTI-WAR libertarian, Sarwark is hated by those same people

          1. robc

            South Carolina is not having a GOP primary next year (Unless it is seriously contested, the state party of an incumbent president typically cancels their primary in SC to save the state money — I think 1992 was the last time it wasn’t cancelled for an incumbent).

            As it is an open primary, I will be voting in the Dem primary. My plan is:

            1. Gabbard
            2. Williamson
            3. not bother

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            Sounds like a solid plan. I don’t know what other Democratic candidates are worth considering

        2. Tonio

          “perhaps the least popular person in the LP”

          James Weeks has a sad…

      2. Jarflax

        How do you reconcile “No one on the left had given her a chance” with “she livestreamed in, and her first shoutout was to Libertarians [sic], calling for @nsarwark by name.”?

        1. leon

          Fair enough.

    2. leon

      But to your point: I’ll give her a pass for not understanding the incredibly divisive internal politics of the utterly inconsequential libertarian party. Plus that even if she’s truly transitioning she is not going to be an ancap.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        No, she’s not going to transition. She remains a watermelon. But, she clearly thinks that she can get libertarians to vote for her in NH to push her over the top. Maybe. But, she needs to lean into the Ron Paul stuff far more than courting Sarwark, who is very much a hawk on foreign policy

        1. leon

          But that’s what I’m getting at. She’s an outsider. She doesn’t get the party politics of the LP

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            True. But, if she wants their votes she should at least understand who she is talking to.

          2. Not Adahn

            Look, her campaign volunteer googled “who leads the libertarian party” and what more do you expect her to do?

      2. Tonio

        Harsh but true, Leon.

    3. And she voted present for the only vote that mattered.
      She’ll be out of the race by the end of January.

    4. I’ll take lip service from Tulsi any day of the week, IFYOUKNOWWHATIMEAN.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    “Billionaires in wine caves should not pick the next president of the United States,” she charged.

    That depends entirely on whom they pick.

  22. Rebel Scum

    This asshat really doesn’t understand how American government works.

    The rabidly anti-Trump actor/director praised Rep. Pelosi (D-CA) on social media Thursday, saying that she will allow the “truth” to emerge — some time after the House passed two articles of impeachment.

    “Republicans are seeing what a real leader looks like,” Reiner wrote.

    “And they’d be wise not to mess with Speaker Pelosi. She will insure [editor’s note: Ahem…] a fair Senate trial. She will insure the public sees that this President has committed Abuse of Power & Obstruction of Congress. She will insure the truth.”

    The Senate does not serve at the pleasure of the Speaker of the house. I would argue that she is engaging in obstruction of the Senates duty to carry out the impeachment trial and that amounts to an abuse of power. The irony…

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Reiner is a moron with a megaphone.

      1. It’s a shame. He has made some really good movies.

        Princess Bride
        Misery
        Spinal Tap
        Stand By Me

        Quality filmmaker. Political ignoramus.

        1. PieInTheSky

          many in the arts are so. What makes a good artist does not seem to be understanding of the world

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Under capitalism, material success depends on the appreciation of a man’s achievements on the part of the sovereign consumers. In this regard there is no difference between the services rendered by a manufacturer and those rendered by a producer, an actor or a playwright. Yet the awareness of this dependence makes those in the show business much more uneasy than those supplying the customers with tangible amenities. The manufacturers of tangible goods know that their products are purchased because of certain physical properties. They may reasonably expect that the public will continue to ask for these commodities as long as nothing better or cheaper is offered to them, for it is unlikely that the needs which these goods satisfy will change in the near future. The state of the market for these goods can, to some extent, be anticipated by intelligent entrepreneurs. They can, with a degree of confidence, look into the future.

            It is another thing with entertainment. People long for amusement because they are bored. And nothing makes them so weary as amusements with which they are already familiar. The essence of the entertainment industry is variety. The patrons applaud most what is new and therefore unexpected and surprising. They are capricious and unaccountable. They disdain what they cherished yesterday. A tycoon of the stage or the screen must always fear the waywardness of the public. He awakes rich and famous one morning and may be forgotten the next day. He knows very well that he depends entirely on the whims and fancies of a crowd hankering after merriment. He is always agitated by anxiety. Like the master-builder in Ibsen’s play, he fears the unknown newcomers, the vigorous youths who will supplant him in the favor of the public.

            It is obvious that there is no relief from what makes these stage people uneasy. Thus they catch at a straw. Communism, some of them think, will bring their deliverance. Is it not a system that makes all people happy? Do not very eminent men declare that all the evils of mankind are caused by capitalism and will be wiped out by communism? Are not they themselves hard-working people, comrades of all other working men?

            It may be fairly assumed that none of the Hollywood and Broadway communists has ever studied the writings of any socialist author and still less any serious analysis of the market economy. But it is this very fact that, to these glamour girls, dancers and singers, to these authors and producers of comedies, moving pictures and songs, gives the strange illusion that their particular grievances will disappear as soon as the “expropriators” will be expropriated.

            There are people who blame capitalism for the stupidity and crudeness of many products of the entertainment industry. There is no need to argue this point. But it is noteworthy to remember that no other American milieu was more enthusiastic in the endorsement of communism than that of people cooperating in the production of these silly plays and films. When a future historian searches for those little significant facts which Taine appreciated highly as source material, he should not neglect to mention the role which the world’s most famous strip-tease artist played in the American radical movement.

            -Von Mises

          2. “They disdain what they cherished yesterday”

            Oh yeah??? EXPLAIN THE @#$%ing decade of Superhero movies!!!! And before that, the decades of Westerns!

          3. And yet a majority of stories they tell are inherently libertarian in nature …

          4. Not Adahn

            Ditto mathematicians. My theory is that the more comfortable you are with abstractions and being more rigorous checking the logic of an argument than the premises, the easier you are to fool with the bogus premises that politics are built around.

          5. JaimeRoberto Delecto

            I work with some guy who is a PhD in theoretical physics. He was taking issue with a financial analysis I had done, which was based on our actual customer base. He didn’t like the way the numbers looked even though they reflected reality. He said instead of making the model reflect reality, I should make reality fit the model. He was a big fundraiser for Beto.

          6. pan fried wylie

            THEORETICAL physics. His opinion on reality should come as no surprise.

          7. Chipwooder

            It happens. Sean Penn, for example, is a terrific actor who is a worthless sack of shit off the screen.

    2. Pat

      He really got stuck in that meathead character.

      1. l0b0t

        He played a Congresscritter on a couple episodes of 30 Rock, and he was great because he really spoofed both Meathead and himself as a Hollywood lefty now making legislation. He seemed in on the joke but his recent ravings indicate he is losing his marbles.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      The Senate does not serve at the pleasure of the Speaker of the house

      It would be pretty funny if McConnell censured her for Obstruction of the Senate (I’m not even sure that is a thing, but who cares?)

      1. Pat

        They could give her a full disadulation

      2. WTF

        Well, Obstruction of Congress isn’t really a thing either, so why the fuck not?

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Excellent!

          *laces finger back and forth*

  23. The Late P Brooks

    When it was her turn, Warren’s voice briefly quivered when she said she’d ask for forgiveness. Sometimes, she said, she gets “a little worked up” and “a little hot.” But “I don’t really mean to.”

    Democrats faced a silent challenge Thursday. For the first time this primary season, no black or Latino candidate appeared onstage. The omission was embarrassing, at best — and politically dangerous, at worst — as Democrats fight to convince people of color that they’re not taking their vote for granted.

    Asked what message the lack of diversity on the debate stage sends, Sanders tried to shift the conversation back to a discussion about climate change. Admonished by one of the moderators to stick to the question, Sanders countered that people of color will suffer “the most if we do not deal with climate change.”

    She should have offered to do the next debate in blackface.

    1. WTF

      Sanders countered that people of color will suffer “the most if we do not deal with climate change.”

      “World ends tomorrow; women, minorities hardest hit. “

    2. Rhywun

      Dems dug their own hole by being obsessed with race. Sorry not sorry, assholes.

    3. Chipwooder

      She should have offered to do the next debate in blackface.

      And promise Gov. Coonman as her running mate!

  24. The Late P Brooks

    I like how the letter he included is labeled “rambling” without showing what it says.

    Although based on what he usually writes, it probably is rambling. And it’s meant to trigger the recipients. Which obviously worked.

    Anything longer than a tweet is “rambling”.

    1. WTF

      Actual reporting would simply call it a six-page letter. “Rambling” is an editorial opinion.

  25. topnotchtoledo

    OT
    With a 4 year old in the house I try and not curse. Hayek above reminded me of “get bent”. I’ve been using the old “go pound sand” fairly effectively but would like to branch out. Oh, screaming “cheese and rice” is fun too. Any good ones I can take from the gliberati?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I find stifling my worst f-bomb impulses and banging my head against the wall in frustration to be quite satisfying.

    2. leon

      Go play in the street?

      Take a hike.

      You Cumquat!!

    3. Pat

      I seem to recall “shut the front door” and “jumpin’ Jehoshaphat” from my childhood. Not from my parents. They cursed like sailors. Other kids’ parents though.

    4. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      All I know is don’t use “dang it”, because it sounds too much like the real thing, especially when a three year-old is saying it. I use “Jesus, Mary, and Joseph” a lot, which was the most popular swear among the Irish Brothers that taught at my high school.

      1. hayeksplosives

        I use “Blessed mother of the papacy!” because I’m not catholic

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          That seems longer and more complicated. Just “Jesus” should work too, right? If you just shout “Jesus” that can’t be a swear. That’s what I’ve always wondered.

    5. JD is Unemployed

      Go fffart in your hat.

    6. hayeksplosives

      Heavens to Murgatroid!

      Well shut my mouth! (Helps if you have a southern accent)

      Sheep-dip me!! (Good for recovering from wanting to say “shit!” Upon a toe stubbing)

    7. Son of a biscuit!
      Mother fudge!
      Gosh darn it!

      But kids know what you really mean to say anyway. So there’s no reason to swear like a Minnesotan instead of swearing like the rest of America.

    8. PieInTheSky

      Pula pizda fut

      Go Romanian

    9. Pope Jimbo

      It is as if all my attempts to educate you heathens hasn’t worked at all.

      Might I suggest once more: Uffda

      Another one one that I heard a lot was “Jimmeny” (but you have to pronounce it yimmeny)

    10. Chipwooder

      My wife says “oh, sugarsticks”. Not sure where she came up with that one.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Me likey

    11. Aloysious

      Personally, I always liked ‘Crap and dung!’

    12. “Oh, my Bob!”

      “Great Googly Moogly”

      I’ll say any curse word anywhere anytime unless it involves the words “God,” “Jesus,” or “Christ.”

      Or unless I’m extremely pissed and then out pours a dictionary’s worth of $50 words spoken quickly and in an impeccably hoity toity accent (with a smattering of Regency-era British phrases), guaranteed to make my target feel like the stupidest, most illiterate redneck in the world. I don’t do this intentionally, mind you. It just … happens.

    13. straffinrun

      My daughter thinks, “Aw shit” is English for “I dropped something.”

      1. Sensei

        When we all know it means “I pressed or pushed something”.

        押した

        1. straffinrun

          Mr Takeshita pushed.

      2. Jarflax

        I used to hang around wit people who worked at a Greek Restaurant I still sometimes yell Opa, when I drop something. Oh shit means it landed on my foot and hurt.

        1. Here we say, “Ope!” I have to think this is just a noise we make that someone finally spelled out.

          1. Jarflax

            Greeks make a big deal of it. A dropped plate gets the whole restaurant to yell Opa, which is drawn out and accented so it sounds like a lengthened (any way I try to spell this will look like it should be pronounced ew, but it is very much a long o sound) Oh Pah.

    14. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

      “Son of a moose!”
      “Jesus wept!”
      “Arse!” (very British)
      “Lick me/lick it!”
      . . . etc.

      1. topnotchtoledo

        My dad was a copy editor his entire career and would like to use ” Fuck me and the horse I rode in on.” Always confused me. My mom would tell him he’s a journalist, use some other words. He would tell her to fuck off haha.

    15. I. B. McGinty

      From Super Troopers 2 – Great Tim Horton’s ghost!”

    16. The Last American Hero

      Go watch The Good Place. They have a few suggestions on there.

    17. KSuellington

      I have little kids and try to do the same thing, so I swear in different languages. My usual choice is either “godverdomme” in Dutch (Goddamit, the “g” is pronounced like a hard “h”). I also use the Portuguese “porra” (cum). Spanish has some good ones like “cabron” or “que chingada”.

    18. Grummun

      I get a lot of use out of “Mother of Pearl!” Or, in less polite company, “Mother pusbucket.”

    19. Tundra

      Good for you.

      I was pretty bad. I tried not to drop the F-bomb, but let’s just say the curse jar experiment was a complete fucking failure.

      True story: toddler Spawn 1 in his car seat, Tundra driving, Mrs. Tundra riding shotgun. From the back seat: “Daddy, what does ‘pick a lane, asshole’ mean?”

      I still take shit from them about that one.

      1. KSuellington

        Há! I love it.

      2. pan fried wylie

        “…for the record, Spawn 1 turned out to be an impeccably responsible driver.”

    20. I use celebrity names.

      BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH!
      GREAT JANUARY JONES!
      FAMKE JANSSEN!

  26. Sensei

    Boeing’s Starliner Spacecraft Encounters Orbit Problem

    Starliner has an off-nominal insertion

    Sounds either kinky or painful.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Why can’t it be both?

      1. Festus

        Like a mallard?

    2. Tonio

      Sucks to be them. SpaceX be eating their lunch.

      1. Sensei

        Yup.

        Although from my quick read I’m wondering if this was an issue with the Atlas V or the Starliner itself.

        1. Tonio

          Starliner. The insertion burn is done with the Starliner propulsion system; before that ignites the booster (Atlas) has to be detached. The Starliner failed to ignite; that’s the most profound, non destructive failure there is.

          1. Sensei

            Ouch!

            Boeing hasn’t been having a good time of it recently.

          2. Is the starliner capsule riding up on a dual engine centaur upper stage? IIRC, that’s ULA’s default second stage.

          3. Sensei

            I blame Daylight Savings Time

            During a post-launch news conference, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine explained that the mission elapsed timing system had an error in it, with the net effect that the spacecraft thought it was performing an orbital insertion burn, when in fact it was not. The on-board computer then expended a significant amount of propellant to maintain a precise attitude, thinking it had reached orbit.

  27. hayeksplosives

    Reposted from Dead Thread because I want to share how awesome my big brother is.

    One of my fave Christmas memories was waking up as a little girl to rush to the fireplace where the stockings were and find all the Star Wars action figures ( the 12 inch class ones, slightly bigger than Barbie) all arranged and posed around the mantle and fireplace.

    Han and Chewie were pointing their weapons at something imaginary, Obi and Vader had their lightsabers clashed, C3p0 and R2 were just chilling by the woodpile, and Luke and Leia were rappelling against the hearth wall from the grappling hook that came with Luke’s belt.

    They had posable joints and such, so mom and big brother had carefullyvstaged everything as photo accurate to the movie poses as possible. This was probably 1980.

    Good times.

      1. Nephilium

        If you’re willing to get a nostalgia overdose, there’s a documentary series on Netflix called the Toys that Made Us that goes through the history of some of the old toys. Season 1 is Star Wars, Barbie, He-Man, and G.I. Joe. Season 2 has Star Trek, Transformers, LEGO, and Hello Kitty. Season 3 has Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Might Morphin Power Rangers, My Little Pony, and Professional Wrestling.

        1. l0b0t

          OOhh… good stuff. Also, James May’s Toy Stories.

          1. Rhywun

            I *loved* that show. Encore, encore!

          2. l0b0t

            I could watch May putter around all day. His new food stuff is awesome as well. https://youtu.be/ytbyFzOt320

          3. Sensei

            He is doing a travel show on Japan.

            I have mixed emotions. I generally enjoy his stuff. For example he is a pilot and he got a ride in a U-2 to the edge of space. It was really a moving documentary.

            OTH, I really fear this is going to be another – oh those wacky Japanese or those mystical Japanese documentaries.

          4. l0b0t

            I’ve only seen his bit about the toilets. He is in love with Japanese toilets. He expounds upon a theory that the reason Japanese products are so well crafted is because employers treat staff well by providing very nice bathrooms. He contrasts with talk of visits to to both Lada and Zil plants in the USSR.

        2. hayeksplosives

          I will totally check that out. Thanks.

  28. Rebel Scum

    Whatever, Trumptard.

    Pelosi based her decision undoubtedly on the views of Laurence Tribe. As Dershowitz explains in his op-ed, Tribe has proposed that the Senate not conduct a trial — not now, and perhaps not ever. He advocates only launching the Senate trial if the Senate agrees to change its rules or until, there it is, of course, Democrats take over the Senate after the next elections (or after that, or after that). If both of those conditions don’t happen, well, “the impeachment would stand as a final and permanent condemnation of President Trump.”

    Dershowitz blasts this plan that has clearly been embraced by Pelosi. “It is difficult to imagine anything more unconstitutional, more violative of the intention of the Framers, more of a denial of basic due process and civil liberties, more unfair to the president and more likely to increase the current divisiveness among the American people,” Dershowitz — a lifelong Democrat — writes. “Put bluntly, it is hard to imagine a worse idea put forward by good people.”…

    “An impeached president has a right to be tried and acquitted by the Senate,” he concludes. “Denying him and the American people that fundamental right might serve the temporary interests of the Democratic Party, and academics who support it, but would do violence to the rule of constitutional law that is supposed to serve all Americans, regardless of party or ideology.”

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Orange Man Bad.

    1. robc

      6th amendment guarantees the right to a speedy trial. I don’t see any reason that wouldn’t apply to an impeached President.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Well clearly you’re not familiar with the “fuck Orangeman, that’s why” clause.

        1. The acronym for your clause would sound a lot like “fatwah.”

    2. leon

      Tribe is one of the go to “legal scholar” hacks that the left goes to when they want validation.

      But also this is not a “Real Trial” so Trump has no rights, and also also it needs to be completely fair and impartial

    3. WTF

      But, but, the Democrats all said they were only forced to impeach Orangeman because they needed to uphold the constitution!

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      it is hard to imagine a worse idea put forward by good people

      Well, that’s half right.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    Any good ones I can take from the gliberati?

    There’s always the W C Fields classic, “Godfrey Daniel!”

    I use it myself.

    1. Fourscore

      dog gone it

      Dog gone it!. Uses the first letters of a good declaration reversed and kids don’t know I am a glib with dyslexia

  30. PieInTheSky

    My question about libertarianism is always the same tho. What happens when a real crisis hits? Where were they in 2008 when the economy melted down due to the lack of regulation and governmental intervention saved the day?

    https://twitter.com/SantiagoPombo/status/1207733374133010432

    Yeah! Where were we?

    1. WTF

      … the economy melted down due to the lack of regulation and governmental intervention saved the day?

      Wait, wut?!

      1. PieInTheSky

        I know right? you learn something new every day.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Shhhh… he’s on a roll

        1. pan fried wylie

          “..as the Heavens parted, and lo! did Chocolate Jesus descend to Earth bearing salvation for all right-thinking Xankind.”

    2. leon

      I have no words.

    3. R C Dean

      Leaving people alone to sort out the consequences of their bad decisions?

      1. The bad decisions caused by regulations forcing them to give loans to people unable to pay them back?

        1. Festus

          I was just a bystander and yet the tsunami washed me away. Where my reparations?

        2. Nephilium

          That was only caused by a lack of regulations forcing people to pay back the loans!

          It’s regulations all the way down.

    4. robc

      Saying dont bail out and let the big banks fail. A quick deep recession, with a quick active recovery, is better than a long drawn out one like we got.

      And you can find my comments on reason from that time saying exactly that. I predicted we wouldnt recover until 2020, I might have been slightly pessimistic, but not much.

      1. I. B. McGinty

        You misspelled “optimistic”

  31. Regarding Samuel Mudd, you meant a Warner Baxter movie (The Prisoner of Shark Island), not a Nicolas Cage movie.

    1. I meant the second National Treasure movie where Cage’s character explains the context of the “name is Mudd” phrase.

      Remember, most people have short memories. Like TTUN fans these days.

      1. Jarflax

        Which explanation did he give? The apocryphal Dr. Mudd one?

          1. Jarflax

            sigh, here.

          2. Jarflax

            sigh, here.

    2. l0b0t

      My ‘ever win the lotto’ plan is to take over Ft. Jefferson. I grew up playing all over it. The railroading of Dr. Mudd was yet another thing that set me on a path to anarcho-libertarianism.

  32. PieInTheSky

    ToughSF
    @ToughSf
    A 1968 study on gas-core nuclear thermal rocket engine gives little hope for a reasonable ratio of uranium lost to hydrogen propellant expelled unless a high density ‘vortex’ within the fuel is created and maintained. The potential results are mapped:

    https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1208013430277279744

  33. wdalasio

    Forgive the rant here, but I need to get it out. I think so much of the sense of victimhood from so many people today is that they don’t understand that life is really, really, really good. We live in an age of damned miracles and things seem to be getting more and more and more remarkably good on a steady basis. And so many people have lived only in such a narrow range of incredibly awesome that they see marginally less awesome as an absolute tragedy. What they don’t get is that for the overwhelming majority of history, for the overwhelming majority of humanity, life was simply fu**ing awful. Your particular identity group had it rough? Yeah, no shit. So did just about every other person on the planet. And if they had to make sacrifices for their loved ones, you know what, those loved ones were making sacrifices too. Because, for the overwhelming majority of history, the overwhelming majority of humanity was struggling desperately to even survive.

    I have people, alive, in my family for whom indoor plumbing wasn’t something they had since birth. And it’s hardly that they grew up extremely poor, just extremely poor by the standards we have today. A middle class person from even fifty or sixty years ago would walk into the the home of a welfare case today and beg to be able to enjoy the sorts of extravagances that even our poorest have at their fingertips. Think about that. That’s less than a lifetime ago. But, we live in such a bubble of unimaginable prosperity that we can’t even begin to fathom how much better we have than even recent generations.

    I just read that the natural lifespan of human beings is 38.6 years. The average lifespan of people throughout the world today is 72.6 years.

    1. Festus

      That 38.6 is when we do the majority of our fucking. Without the internet why would you want to live longer? *checks palm crystal, sees that it has turned to amber*

      1. Fourscore

        I wish my parents were alive to see the differences from their early lives compared to the life I(we) have. They came from an age of pre-automobile and now the Greenies want to back to those days. A little over a 100 years…

        My grand kids will be saying the same thing when they are my age.

    2. Pat

      Everyone judges their life by the standard of the age in which they live, so while it’s true, and while a bit of historical perspective is crucially important, I don’t think it’s an entirely fair criticism of modern people in particular. No one in human history has ever been poor or rich except by comparison to their contemporaries.

      Another thing to consider is that the pace of progress for the last ~200 years has been exponential compared to the previous ~10,000 years, and now it’s tapering off a little. In one generation we eradicated like a dozen of the world’s most deadly illnesses, which pushed life expectancy (not life span – a meaningful difference) out nearly 20 years. The improvements we see from now until eternity will seem glacially incremental by comparison to that. A lot of people, including the techno-utopians and free market Pollyannas, assume that rate of improvement to remain unchanged from now until eternity, like forecasting a December temperature of 400 degrees based on the rate of warming in May.

      1. Festus

        Greta?

      2. wdalasio

        I get your point, even if I’m a little more optimistic than you on the opportunities for technological progress.

        My complaint is that even people’s understanding of history is clouded by their lack of historical perspective. They don’t understand the option sets that were available historically and apply what we know today. Slavery? Hell, most Europeans lived in roughly the same state, in terms of standards of living, until maybe a generation or two earlier (although, obviously, there wasn’t the social or emotional toll that was involved in slavery, where families could be split up at the discretion of their masters, as just one instance). Women were relegated to the home? Was that a vastly worse fate than working the fields all day to eke out bare subsistence? Women weren’t merchants? Yeah, the tampon only came around in the early 1900s. If you were a woman, long-distance trips weren’t a practical option.

        So many see victimhood where things have gotten astronomically better for everyone. And even a comprehension of just how foreign even our recent ancestors lives were to our own might really be appropriate.

        1. Pat

          Two unfortunate realities contribute mightily to the lack of perspective, IMO. In the first place, most people don’t like to learn about history. And in the second, the deconstructionists effectively conquered academia 40 years ago, so nothing anybody learns about history has any relevant context anymore. It’s so steeped in post-modern moralism (if there is such a thing) that it might as well be parables.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      My counter theory is that most people do realize how fucking great and easy their lives are. However, that makes them feel guilty as shit. Most people didn’t make huge discoveries or contributions (think Norman Borlaug) so they think they are just a bunch of free riders. They also project their own feelings of inadequacy onto those doing better than they are. They think that the rich are monsters because they are even better off than them but refuse to acknowledge that they didn’t do anything to get that loot either.

      Combine that guilt with the fact that because we are so prosperous that they have gobs of free time to indulge themselves and you have a recipe for lots of whinging.

      1. Pat

        Most people didn’t make huge discoveries or contributions (think Norman Borlaug) so they think they are just a bunch of free riders.

        To be fair, I feel that way about the abject waste of potential my life has been, but I deal with it in healthy ways like drinking and self-loathing.

        1. Festus

          I’d call you my friend but that might violate the NAP. You’re just a kid. Wait til you reach “Serfdom 55”.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          Don’t sell yourself short. Waking up and powering through that hangover to make your way into work to man your tiny cog is actually contributing to everyone’s success. It is just hard to see from where you are.

    4. Rhywun

      I just read that the natural lifespan of human beings is 38.6 years.

      No. Someone is having fun with statistics. The average life-span was much less than today due to much higher rates of infant mortality.

      1. Controlling for infant mortality and violent death, natural demises tended to be in the 60s for quite some time.

      2. Festus

        It’s like everyone dropped dead at Forty back in the long, long ago. Fucking statistics, how do they work?

        1. The Last American Hero

          Carousel is a LIE!!!!!!

      3. mrfamous

        There were a series of “trouble spots” in human lifespan. Two involved childbirth, both for the child and mother. Wars and other compelled violent interactions claimed a lot of adolescent boys/men from 14 to 30. And any sort of behavior that got you either imprisoned or expelled from cities/villages/homes were potentially deadly circumstances.

        Still, lifespan has increased significantly, even since I was young. The increase is just not as large as the “average lifespan” stats would suggest.

    5. Chipwooder

      I have people, alive, in my family for whom indoor plumbing wasn’t something they had since birth.

      She’s no longer alive, but my grandmother was the daughter of a sharecropper. They didn’t have either indoor plumbing or electricity. She used to tell me that they frequently had little to eat beyond bread, butter, and eggs from the chickens they kept. This was 1920s Georgia. My grandfather grew up in a 2 room cold water flat in Manhattan. They had a metal bathtub in their apartment, and to take a hot bath his mother had to boil pots of water on the stove. There was one communal toilet for the whole floor.

      1. Festus

        My Grandmother grew up in a sod hut in Saskatchewan. They were recent immigrants from GB. If that ain’t hard-scrabble, I don’t know what is. Grandpa was an orphan that was allowed to keep his name. Great-Grandpa shot his cheating wife dead and hung for it. Grandpa had sisters but he never saw them again.

        1. Chipwooder

          Yikes…..talk about a rough childhood.

          1. Festus

            I demand reparations!

      2. Fourscore

        “indoor plumbing or electricity.”

        Ain’t been so long ago. Ol’ Fourscore remembers. I’m glad I had those experiences, it makes life today much more pleasant.

        /goes to flush the toilet, just for fun/

      3. banginglc1

        My great grandmother rode around in a horse and buggy most of her life. But lived long enough to see a man walk on the moon.

    6. KSuellington

      In 1980 when I went to visit my cousins in Ireland they did not have an indoor toilet. You had to use the outhouse, which 6 year old me thought was awesome. Of course, I was there in the summer and it was a novelty to me. I wasn’t going out in a freezing and dark sleet morning of December to take a crap. They used a large metal tub with a big kettle heated on the peat stove to take a weekly bath. In 19-fucking-80. During the trip we dropped off some pike my dad caught at a river to an old lady that had dirt floors. These memories and then spending a few years in South America in my twenties really focused me on how damn lucky I was and the life of absolute luxury that we lead here. Our poor are fat and often carry around supercomputers in their pockets and go home to refrigerators, central heat and TVs.

    7. Alternative take: people thrive in the struggle because it gives them personal purpose. When the biggest struggle somebody endures in life is not being able to trade for all the luxuries their heart desires or accomplishing a mental challenge that has some esoteric impact on the functioning of a distant corporation, their brain has to manufacture struggle in order to function properly. IOW, there’s a reason that eating disorders are a first world problem.

    8. JaimeRoberto Delecto

      My wife didn’t have indoor plumbing when she was growing up. But then she grew up in a communist country.

  34. Festus

    15 year old Festus has fond memories of going to the plane-arium to watch Alan Parsons. https://youtu.be/qOwFVowEugQ

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Really? It was all Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin with the occasional New Wave/Post Punk show where I was.

      But I’ve always been an Alan Parsons fan. Floyd owes him dearly for his production work.

      1. Festus

        It was the scheduling. Po-dunk kids in the city. I would have preferred either or but it was a free trip and two stoned boys weren’t gonna argue.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      A personal favorite, if only because it has Arthur Brown being himself on vocals.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJt_lHulp4

    3. Drake

      I love me some Alan Parsons. “Tales of Mystery and Imagination” and “I Robot” were classic albums.

      1. Drake

        I would take them over Pink Floyd without hesitation.

        1. Festus

          That’s just plain wrong. I just listened to “Atom Heart Mother” for the zillionth time tonight because I haven’t found a decent pirate site. Alan Parsons is ok.

          1. Drake

            I stand by my statement. Pink Floyd never did a thing for me.

          2. Well, no shit, he wasn’t real.

          3. Alan Parsons >>> Pink Floyd

            Objectively.

            QED.

            It is known.

          4. Jarflax

            Giant Douche >>> Turd Sandwich

            *sits back and awaits mob with pitchforks and torches.

            Igor, pop me some corn!

          5. If they are both equally repugnant to you, then you will get no argument. 😉

            Saying you don’t like them both is not the same as saying MikeS is so, so, so very wrongheaded about his hatred of Steely Dan.

            *ducks*

          6. Jarflax

            Ok, trying this again! Geddy Lee has an annoying whiny voice and Neal Peart is too full of himself as a drummer.

          7. Hmmm.

            All I can really manage is a chuckle of pity.

          8. Jarflax

            Damn it. Now I have to create a Twitter account and say something really outrageous like boys have penises and girls have vaginas to get my hate mob started.

          9. Pat

            Geddy Lee has an annoying whiny voice

            THANK YOU

          10. Prog rock is horrible. There. Done. I will take all of your heat.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    If both of those conditions don’t happen, well, “the impeachment would stand as a final and permanent condemnation of President Trump.”

    In other words, a sternly worded letter in his permanent record.

    and-

    “Put bluntly, it is hard to imagine a worse idea put forward by good worse people.”…

    Fixed.

    1. Festus

      “That girl over there? She don’t like you!” “Why?” “I dunno…”

  36. Atanarjuat

    Want to read an insanely long incisive takedown of CNN by Charlie Cooke? Here ya go.

    These days, CNN is a peculiar and unlovely hybrid of progressive propaganda outlet, oleaginous media apologist, sexless cultural scold, and frenzied Donald Trump stalkerblog.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      “It is difficult to convey in words just what the candidacy and then presidency of Donald Trump have done to CNN, but one can gain a sense of the descent by comparing the network with a news organization that has largely maintained its sanity: the New York Times.”

      Keep driving that speed limit, National Review

      1. Rhywun

        a news organization that has largely maintained its sanity: the New York Times

        *falls off chair*

        1. blackjack

          They have maintained it. The level is not different.

    2. Festus

      “Stalkerblog” is a keeper.

    3. Tonio

      He had me at “oleaginous.” Always classy, always on message, always fair-minded.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    SpaceX be eating their lunch.

    Speaking of- has anybody noted the stories about “Rooshun Spy Ships spying on SpaceX launch!”?

  38. ChipsnSalsa

    Give a Chicago teacher a rope, he thinks he’s a cowboy hangman. If you’re surprised by this, you know little about Chicago Public Schools or their teachers union.

    I’m still having a hard time not seeing how schools are not prison-lite.

    FTA

    Officials from the state Board of Education, which was not monitoring schools’ use of seclusion or restraint, said in an interview they did not know the extent to which Illinois children were being put in prone restraints. A board official noted it was not required by law to keep track.

    *prison guard gets a stiffy*

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Chicago Public Schools is a jobs bank, not a school. And all public schools are re-education camps, meant to break a child’s spirits and teach him to obey government authority.

      1. Rhywun

        All true, but a lot of parents aren’t helping – by refusing to teach their kids how to behave before sending them off to torment everyone else.

  39. Pat

    Miss America 2020: Biochemist wins crown after on-stage experiment

    A Virginian biochemist has been named winner of Miss America 2020 after performing a live science experiment that defied stereotypes of the contest.

    Camille Schrier defeated 50 women to take the crown at Thursday’s final in Uncasville, Connecticut.

    Wearing a lab coat, the 24-year-old impressed judges with a chemistry demonstration in the talent show.

    Ms Schrier won a $50,000 (£38,000) scholarship and a one-year role as Miss America.

    In her acceptance speech, Ms Schrier said she hoped to “break stereotypes about what it means to be a Miss America in 2020”.

    Ms Schrier has two undergraduate science degrees and is studying a doctorate in pharmacy at Virginia Commonwealth University.

    Yeah, it was definitely the 5th grade science fair demonstration that won it for her…

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’d put my pestle in her mortar

    2. Suthenboy

      Now we will never have world peace. Thanks a lot.

      1. Festus

        The world’s hungry children can eat multi-colored foam. It’s all good.

    3. Rebel Scum

      Wearing a lab coat

      Only a lab coat?

      1. Festus

        Hopefully?

  40. Pope Jimbo

    Virginians better stop focusing on their 2A sanctuaries and spend a bit more time eradicating monkey dungeons (the term is very othering to Warty). Of course the rise of monkey dungeons is due to … wait for it … Donald J. Trump.

    The chasm between the USDA and local assessments is a stark illustration of a dramatic decline in federal animal welfare enforcement amid a Trump administration deregulation push. From 2016 to 2018, the number of citations issued by the USDA to about 10,000 zoos, circuses, breeders and research labs it regulates dropped by 65 percent. The agency attributes the drop in citations, which can lead to fines and revoked licenses, to new efforts to work closely with businesses and their veterinarians to correct violations. Former employees have said it’s the result of a more lenient approach that puts animals at risk.

    1. The monkeys are holding prisoners?

    2. Not Adahn

      Again I ask: What is agricultural about monkeys?

      1. Fur farming, bushmeat exports, research into replacing illegal alien labor.

      2. Festus

        Picking at your anus, rolling it up and sniffing it is kinda sorta farming. I got nothing.

      3. Pope Jimbo

        I always need to pop down to the farmers’ market to pick up a few from chimps for the Massively Parallel Monkey Matrix computer that I am building in my basement.

        It is much easier than having to go out and capture wild ones.

        1. Festus

          Yeah, they’re more bitey.

          1. pan fried wylie

            Yeah, but the real problem is the time it takes to reformat each one.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    My question about libertarianism is always the same tho. What happens when a real crisis hits? Where were they in 2008 when the economy melted down due to the lack of regulation and governmental intervention saved the day?

    *guffaws*

    Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

    1. Suthenboy

      I remember some physiology experiment where they put glasses on people, the lenses of which turned the world upside down. After a few days of wearing them the brains of the subjects reinterpreted what they were seeing as right side up.
      That is what progressivism is, lenses that turn everything upside down. After a while the victim sees that as normal.

    2. Rebel Scum

      due to the lack of regulation

      1) government instructs lenders to give out bad loans
      2) housing market crashes.
      3) ???????
      4) market failure and government saves the day.

  42. Rufus the Monocled

    1) Isn’t Rowling a SJW? A case of eating their own? It’s rather interesting noting how the ‘tolerant left’ act in the very same way they claim the Christian right acts: Intolerant.

    2) I wonder what the result would be if they held another Brexit referendum.

    1. Tonio

      Yes, she was. That came up in the comments — both. Excoriated for having been leading edge woke back in the 2000’s, but not having kept up with contemporary wokeness. Also observed that one can never be woke enough for the SJW crowd.

    2. R C Dean

      Anyone can be more righteous than an unwashed heathen. You get more points by being more righteous than a priest.

  43. Rebel Scum

    A fascist’s fascist.

    Bernie Sanders✔
    @BernieSanders

    Here’s a prediction: we are going to win, pass a Green New Deal, and criminally prosecute the fossil fuel executives who destroyed the planet. https://twitter.com/emorwee/status/1207310910827716609

    1. Suthenboy

      Destroyed the planet. It is destroyed.

      *looks out window*

      Yep. It is destroyed, if by destroyed you mean the climate is statistically normal and the environment is cleaner than at any time since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

      Good luck with that winning business Bernie.

    2. PieInTheSky

      on the basis of which fucking law could they prosecute?

      1. Pat

        Still, there really is no comparison between the numbers of political prisoners now and in Stalin’s
        time; they are no longer counted in millions or in hundreds of thousands.
        Is this because the law has been reformed?
        No, it is just that the ship has changed course (for a time).
        We called this chapter “The Law Today.” It should rightly be called “There Is No Law.”
        The same treacherous secrecy, the same fog of injustice, still hangs in our air, worse than the smoke
        of city chimneys.
        For half a century and more the enormous state has towered over us, girded with hoops of steel.
        The hoops are still there. There is no law.

      2. They’ll pass a law making ex post facto Laws constitutional and then pass a law to convict them with. And they’ll do the prosecutions before the first law makes it to the SC. Sure the convictions will eventually be overturned and the condemned released from prison. But they’ll manage to get them behind bars for a period of time and the process will be part of the penalty.

        Also, they’ll use the law to extort current fossil fuel execs to get in line or face the prospect of being imprisoned for answering to their shareholders.

        It’s pretty simple.

      3. Suthenboy

        FYTW.

        They impeached the President sans any crime. Why not Kkkorporashuns? Just mumble some nebulous bullshit, fail to cite any statute and get out the rope. You don’t commie much do you Pie?

      4. Rufus the Monocled

        I’m pretty communist Romania has some examples of how. /wink.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          pretty sure.

          I can’t even bust balls right.

          1. Festus

            Felty balls don’t break. They just sorta squish and rebound. So I’ve been told.

    3. Chipwooder

      He’s an evil motherfucker. I hate that he has this image as some kind of lovably cranky uncle. No, he’s a hardcore Marxist who would persecute supposed class enemies had he the opportunity to do so.

  44. Suthenboy

    Trump has not been impeached. Impeachment is a legal proceeding and until it is officially delivered to the Senate there has been no impeachment. The Dems refusing to deliver it is like having a trial that renders no verdict. I am convinced the whole dog and pony show was just that, an attempt to damage Trump prior to the election. They were never serious about an actual impeachment. I cant help but laugh that the whole debacle made Trump rise in the polls.
    He is going to win the election. The howls will be endlessly entertaining. And what will the pinkos say about voters this time? I think we are seeing the death of the Democrat party and they are trying to take everyone else down with them.
    Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

    1. PieInTheSky

      If you love Trump so much why don’t you marry him?

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        ‘Yes, I’m gonna marry a carrot.’

        Lisa Simpson.

        1. Not Adahn

          I’m sure the wedding night movie is on pornhub.

    2. WTF

      We are not seeing the death of the Democrat party. Do not underestimate the value of having almost the entire MSM as well as the entire education and entertainment industries propagandizing for the Dems.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        We’re just seeing it go full prog.

      2. Suthenboy

        The MSM might be a part of why they are dying. They are such naked, obvious liars and at this point have zero credibility. Their unabashed propagandizing isn’t winning anyone over, quite the opposite in fact.

        1. kinnath

          If my facebook friends are indications, there are lots of people taking the MSM storyline hook, line, and sinker.

        2. Pat

          At a certain point the purpose of propaganda isn’t to convince people by means of deception, it’s to exercise deception for its own sake. The bigger the lie the better. This was the case in the Soviet sphere of influence particularly. Telling people obvious untruths that they know are untruths and you know are untruths and you know that they know are untruths and they know that you know are untruths is a demonstration of power. What are you going to do about it?

          1. What are you going to do about it?

            Which is what reminds people they are defenseless serfs and continue to go about their pitiful little lives.

            /nosarc

          2. Pat

            Exactly. It’s more effective in a totalitarian state, of course, but because of the monoculture of the media class you have something very similar to that kind of monopoly on information. And in select places with cooperative government you can be harassed and assaulted with impunity if you do reject the narrative too loudly.

          3. WTF

            Hence “women can have penises” “whit male privilege” “America is the most racist country on earth” etc. etc.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    In her acceptance speech, Ms Schrier said she hoped to “break stereotypes about what it means to be a Miss America in 2020”.

    First Miss America with a penis?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Give it about three years and you’ll get one.

      1. Festus

        I could’ve had more fun with two. Forehead penis for the win!

      2. R C Dean

        Exactly the timeframe I was thinking.

      3. pan fried wylie

        You’re right, a man would do better at being Miss America. Sorry Ladies, lrn2code.

    2. straffinrun

      Great. Now we have to test Miss America to make sure she is doping.

  46. PieInTheSky

    Top trolling from The Brexit Party in the European Parliament today.

    “We wish you a Merry Brexmas…”

    https://twitter.com/emilyhewertson/status/1207699279025979392

    And on this note, I set my out of office messages in my outlook and no more work till the third.

    1. leon

      Literally taking Christ out of Christmas

      1. Festus

        God Bless Him!

    2. “And on this note, I set my out of office messages in my outlook and no more work till the third.”

      And now, children, you know why European economies are crap. ; )

  47. PieInTheSky

    Our scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.

    https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/1206475804990935040

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Think about it, you can just put your gyno on your Facebook friends list and no need to go in anymore.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Beto’s next campaign season effort to show he’s “just like us”

    2. Pat

      Nothing says sexy like a gynecological exam

      1. Festus

        “Is that your speculum or are you just happy to see me?” “Please lie down and put your feet in the stirrups, Mrs. Ricardo.”

    3. Not Adahn

      Yomar Vazquez

      @yomivaz
      Dec 16
      More
      Replying to @DannyDutch
      In all fairness it was originally designed to look into “Uranus”.

      1 reply0 retweets12 likes
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  48. Drake

    Cookies!

    The son and I are making another batch of these today.
    http://dailyburn.com/life/recipes/peanut-butter-chocolate-chip-protein-cookies-recipe/

  49. PieInTheSky

    I think we need a sober objective opinion on JK Rowling

    In other words, people like J.K. Rowling aren’t TERFs, she is just a plain old fashion bigot, who will gladly deny fundamental human rights out of hatred and ignorance. No need to dress it up with fancy words.

    https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1207744725668618240

    Look at the first reply and answer….

    1. PieInTheSky

      Also

      It’s weird there aren’t more anti-capitalists among gamers. Games are so often obviously ruined by catering to shareholder interests over the gaming community and developers themselves who just want to make a fun game.

      The only explanation is that all gamers are fucking idiots.

      https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1207478017489924097

      1. Pat

        When your clan of neckbeard basement dwellers challenges the other clan of neckbeeard basement dwellers to a cripple fight…

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s certainly not for the efforts of game developers to sway them towards socialism.

        The woke in gaming is ever-present these days.

      3. leon

        remember how good Games were in the Soviet Union.

      4. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        That dude lives with five cats. I just have a hunch that he has lots of cats

  50. Winded

    200 messages in and still nothing on Bucks/Lakers last night? Proof the NBA is not unwatchable before the playoffs. Of course there are too many teams, but when the best meet up (and care) it delivers.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Well we commented on that in the prelinx thread…

    2. leon

      Proof the NBA is not unwatchable before the playoffs.

      well i mean the NBA is unwatchable at any time.

    3. Blame me for that. I’m not an NBA fan at all. The games are boring until the playoffs. Offenses have simply gotten too good for teams to consistently defend against.

      So I never put results in the post, which is partially why they don’t get many comments (except for Pie, who does so vigorously). I’ll try to do better…when April and the playoffs arrive.

      1. “Offenses have simply gotten too good for teams to consistently defend against.”

        Ah….so you have never watched the Chicago Bulls.

    4. straffinrun

      Those teams didn’t mail it in last night. It was a real game and the Bucks handled them rather easily.

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      Fuck the WokeBa. Commie cock suckers.

  51. The Other Kevin

    Love the song! My very first concert was Love & Rockets / Pixies in the 80’s.

  52. Festus

    Buttigieg reminds of “Big Gay Jeff” at on of my work-sites. All warm and lovey-dovey but if you hurt his feelings kitty got claws. He came in a couple weeks ago with tinted hair and I quipped “Feeling Blue, Jeff?” Nose out of joint for a week. Are all gay men just like wives?

    1. Suthenboy

      No, they are not but in my experience a sub-set of them are bitchy as hell like that.
      A one star once told me “We don’t care about humping in the fox holes. We don’t want ’em because they are bitchy. They constantly stir shit and try to make everything about themselves. You cant have that in the military.”

      Me – “I know plenty of straights like that”

      Him – “We don’t want them either.”

      Blue hair = Look at me! Look at me! I am special!

      1. Festus

        So it wasn’t just me. That’s a relief!

    2. pan fried wylie

      Nose out of joint for a week. Are all gay men just like wives?

      In their ability to punch a man in the face over a remark without consequence? Apparently.

  53. straffinrun

    Watched some of the MPs debate on the Brexit withdrawal agreement. One disheveled backbencher lady tried to argue for another referendum. Something along the lines of, “Just think of all the young people that have come of age since the first referendum and how they won’t have a say!” They delay the fuck out of it and then complain it’s not fair. Politicians can be truly shameless.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Yeah, that conversation is over. Johnson has already said that there will be no more extensions and if the EU does not agree to their negotiations by January 2021 then WTO rules will be the default deal. It’s over. The anti-Brexit people were roundly defeated and now Brussels has no leverage.

    2. leon

      Something along the lines of, “Just think of all the young people that have come of age since the first referendum and how they won’t have a say!”

      But every law that is passed should be eternal.

  54. Pat

    Malware at Wawa stores has been stealing credit card info since March

    Readers on the East Coast ,are getting some bad news after yet another retailer has uncovered malware in its systems stealing card numbers. The victim this time is Wawa, with its line of convenience stores and gas stations that stretches across several states. A letter from CEO Chris Gheysens explains that the company discovered the malware in its payment processing systems on December 10th, and believes it affected potentially all Wawa locations since March 4th, 2019, although some were infected later and some not at all. If you used your card at the payment terminal or gas pump, then the attack probably got your information — store ATMs were apparently unaffected.

    1. leon

      Quite Frankly if i was a Card Processor i would break ties with businesses that had this happen. Put pressure on the businesses to actually maintain security.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Well… crap

    3. Chipwooder

      Swell, I only go to Wawa three times per week or so.

      I really need to start using cash only.

  55. Certified Public Asshat

    We don’t need to erase trans or non-binary people to show that barriers to menstrual equity, such as the tax on menstrual products, are unconstitutional sex discrimination. Our discussion of the tampon tax must include every person who menstruates.https://t.co/surqfIcK1e— ACLU (@ACLU) December 18, 2019

    Now, you might be thinking if men can menstruate, how can taxing tampons be sex discrimination…

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      Take yarmulkes again. Not all Jewish people wear yarmulkes, and some people who aren’t Jewish do wear yarmulkes (for example, if attending a Jewish religious service). Still, if a legislature decided to tax people for wearing yarmulkes, or to impose sales tax on yarmulkes but not similar items, that would be anti-Semitism, and it would violate the constitution. Similarly, imposing a sales tax on menstrual products but not similar items is sexist, and violates the constitution.

      Discrimination is illegal even when it affects members of multiple groups. Feminist scholars have long pointed out that sexism can harm people other than women. For example, Paula England has pointed out the tendency to devalue labor traditionally done by women, even when it is done by men. Ruth Bader Ginsburg famously challenged a rule that denied widowed fathers benefits that widowed mothers received. The rule both discriminated against women workers, who couldn’t earn the same benefits for their families that men did, and against men who wanted the opportunity to care for their children.

      We don’t need to erase trans or non-binary people to show that barriers to menstrual equity, such as the tax on menstrual products, are unconstitutional sex discrimination. This tax targets a bodily function associated with women for less favorable treatment. It relies on sexist ideas that women’s needs are frivolous and unnecessary. It is irrational, and it directly affects cis and trans women, trans men, and non-binary people. It’s unfair, unconstitutional, and illegal.

      Got it?

      1. I’m pretty sure sales tax applies to yarmalukes, especially if they’re more than particualr dollar amounts based on the clothing exception to sales taxes.

      2. Pat

        Similarly, imposing a sales tax on menstrual products but not similar items is sexist, and violates the constitution.

        Of course, sales tax is generally applicable across the full range of toiletry and what you’re actually asking for is a special exemption for menstrual (manstrual? I dunno) products.

        1. Certified Public Asshat

          We could instead be arguing if anything should get an exemption, or, if we should be applying this tax in the first place.

          *plays laugh track*

      3. Suthenboy

        The ACLU started out as legal counsel for the Communist Party USA.

        I read that three times and it makes no sense to me. “This tax targets a bodily function associated with women for less favorable treatment” is their premise, one that is completely false. Sales tax targets all consumer products. Using that logic every single tax on a consumer product could be said to target a demographic for less favorable treatment.

        *thinks about that*

        Ok, I will buy into it. Shitcan all taxes.

        1. leon

          Some “Mens” products are not taxed by certain states, i guess.

          But since there is no general national sales tax, i don’t see how this could be a national issue.

          1. Pat

            Some “Mens” products are not taxed by certain states, i guess.

            Nah, it’s not even that. The sales tax they are on about is applicable to every other product in the same product category in the state and local tax schedule. Some states exempt certain things from their sales tax, but there aren’t any men’s toiletries that qualify. They try to make it seem as if men are paying no sales tax on any of their hygiene products while women have to pay tax some special excise tax on tampons. What they’re bitching about is that there’s no sales tax exemption for tampons like there are for certain other “necessities” (like grocery items, in most states, for example).

          2. leon

            I’m not sure, I’ve never noticed a sales tax exemption, but i do know that the claim i have heard is that Razors fall under those “Necessities”, which is the source of the complaint. Do you have an article i can read about this that isn’t ACLU?

          3. Pat

            Astonishingly, Daily Beast had a decent write up on the subject here

            Relevant quote:

            In June of this year, Fusion reported on the 40 states that “tax women for having periods,” as the headline pointedly put it. But as Gupta notes partway through her Cosmo op-ed, “in many states, there are even sales taxes on essential items like toilet paper and incontinence pads.” In light of this fact, she acknowledges that there isn’t “some explicit anti-tampon conspiracy” and yet the Cosmo petition, like Fusion’s headline, frames the “tampon tax” issue as if state lawmakers were directly targeting menstruation.

            I don’t think most men’s products receive any tax exemption in the states that tax tampons, but there was a kerfuffle about the “pink tax” a while back, which was about companies charging more for products marketed for women even when they are functionally identical to the same products in different packaging marketed for men (pink lady razors vs the yellow Bics, for example).

          4. I do think, though, that if we are going to have welfare/EBT, that toiletries should be included.

            My daughter and I are now exempt from the feminine hygiene product tax.

            I opted out with first an endometrial ablation, then hysterectomy.

            I opted my daughter out with hormones.

            So since I got mone, they can suck it.

            Am I libertarianing right?

          5. Pat

            I do think, though, that if we are going to have welfare/EBT, that toiletries should be included.

            I’m not 100% sure, but I think they actually might be in some states. The rules for qualifying EBT purchases are byzantine. Lunchmeat from the deli counter at a chain grocery store? Probably food-stampable. A prepared sandwich from the same counter? Sorry, that’s a restaurant item.

        2. Festus

          Tent in the back yard until their bloods are done. I helped to raise three daughters and when the four would sync it was like Black Moon…

      4. Pope Jimbo

        But it is still legal to mandate (no pun intended) that everyone has to purchase tampons or pay a fine penal tax?

        1. Pope Jimbo

          fine

        2. leon

          Everyone must purchase, but the Fine has been dropped to 0 so you have no standing to challenge it.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            Are you trying to tell me that it wasn’t permanent and only a stop gap measure?

    2. leon

      Have you noticed that Womens Shoes are also taxed?

      This is because the government wants women to be barefoot and pregnant all the time.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The ACLU has obviously been capture by the young, wide-eyed and woke female contingent, because they are the only ones stupid enough to come out and say shit like that.

    4. Not Adahn

      Menstrual equity? They’re complaining men don’t bleed enough?

      1. Chipwooder

        I’m gonna stab myself in the taint once a month to show what a good ally I am!

    5. straffinrun

      Does this mean squirting is real now and I don’t have to pretend I’m not soaking in piss?

      1. Nope, it’s still just urine.

        1. straffinrun

          No spoilers.

          Oh, and I started watching one of the newer Star Wars tonight. The one with the black guy that isn’t named Lando. Fell asleep within 15 minutes

      2. Festus

        The first time that happened to me I freaked the fuck out.

    6. Rebel Scum

      every person who menstruates

      So women, who happen to also be persons.

    7. pan fried wylie

      Tobacco sin-taxes are discriminatory against smok…..BWAHAHAHAHA, I couldn’t finish.

  56. Jarflax

    Reminder to those playing the Glib Diplomats game it filled yesterday and orders are due.

    1. Festus

      Jarflax is the Hall Monitor.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      *hands white flag to France*

  57. The Late P Brooks

    Let the clusterfuck continue

    “I think a lot of jurisdictions were hoping that the Supreme Court would enable a much greater level of enforcement activity around the unsheltered homeless, and that won’t be the case,” said Sacramento Mayor Darrell Steinberg, who along with L.A. County Supervisor Mark Ridley-Thomas is co-chair of the governor’s task force on homelessness.

    The result, some officials and homeless advocates say, is likely to be an upswing of newfound political will to build more permanent supportive housing and temporary shelters to get people off the streets.

    In the past, such efforts have been slow throughout much of California, and often have been met with resistance from local government officials and neighborhood groups. But, for now, it is the only way.

    “Our hope is that communities won’t be nickel-and-diming this decision and figuring out the bare minimum so they can be legally compliant,” said Eric Tars, an attorney with the National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty, who worked on the initial Boise case and represented several of the plaintiffs involved in the challenge. “We hope they take this opportunity to alter a completely unsuccessful way of dealing with homelessness.”

    ——-

    By declining to take the case on Monday, the high court let stand a 2018 ruling from the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, which found that it is unconstitutional to prosecute people for sleeping on public property if enough shelter or housing isn’t available as an alternative. Police can still intervene when there is criminal activity, however, such as drug use.

    Dozens of cities and counties across the West, including Los Angeles, had urged the Supreme Court to hear an appeal of the Boise ruling. Many argued that the rationale for its decision was far too broad, and local governments hadn’t been given enough direction about how much housing or shelter they needed to provide to satisfy it.

    Why solve the problem when there is good money to be made exploiting it?

    1. Rhywun

      There’s even better money to be made in erecting half-million dollar condos for the homeless and the constant repair after they’ve trashed them.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      We keep feeding the birds; why come there’s more of them?

    3. Chipwooder

      “Mark Ridley Thomas” sounds like one of the stars in an ’80s buddy-cop action show.

  58. SugarFree

    SugarFree’s One Wish For Christmas is that we all come together as one people, one nation, one voice and say: I don’t give fuck about Brexit.

    We fought two fucking wars not to have to pay attention to those tea-swilling hobbits, why spit in the faces of the founders of our country and the brave souls who died for our right to ignore the death-whines of an irrelevant empire?

    It is our right as Americans to ignore Brexit; it is our duty to do so as well. It doesn’t matter to us. Stop fucking talking about it. Stop pushing it in media narratives.

    I don’t give fuck about Brexit.

    I have spoken.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Counterpoint: It is our God given right and duty as Americans to shit on Europe at every opportunity. Brexit makes so many Europeans cry that Americans are obliged to bask in their misery.

      1. straffinrun

        And, if you thought American politicians were weird looking… Put it this way, Nadler would be in the upper two thirds of good looking politicians there.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      At least now I know what to get you for Christmas

      https://www.etsy.com/sg-en/listing/677814129/fuck-off-brexit-mug

    3. I am strongly invested in Brexit.

      I don’t know why.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You went long on mutton futures?

        1. I checked, they were New Zealand sheep.

      2. Suthenboy

        “I am strongly invested in Brexit. I don’t know why.”

        Perhaps because Globalism is just another name for international communism and it is good to see some pushback against that. Fuck the EU.

        1. Festus

          *sips beer, taps monocle and chuckles, sensibly*

    4. leon

      Ok…. But what do you think about the EU?

      1. The quality of the expanded universe content varies greatly from installment to installment.

    5. Pope Jimbo

      We only care because they are the ones we like in this midget fight. We don’t really care about the outcome as long as we see them get in some good licks on the dwarves over in the EU.

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      I just like saying to Europeans ‘Are the Yanks and Commonwealth gonna have to come and save your sorry asses again?’

    7. PieInTheSky

      yeah but would you agree to an actual free trade deal with Britain?

      1. SugarFree

        I don’t care. I understand that it might impact you. But I honestly view it with the same sort of disdain I feel for two nerds arguing over a particularly arcane rule in a game of D&D.

        1. PieInTheSky

          I understand that it might impact you. – I may need a visa to go to distilleries which is worse than the holocaust

          1. SugarFree

            Maybe Scotland will break off. And the EU will make the mistake of taking in Frigid Greece.

    8. PieInTheSky

      To honor SugarFree request, lets talk about Scottish independence. Go…

      1. LJW

        Oh boy here we go. *Swipes blue face paint on*

        1. straffinrun

          Blew?

        2. Woad there. Lets not get to Hastings.

          1. straffinrun

            Piker.

          2. Jarflax

            Somebody burned his bannock.

        1. Chipwooder

          “Some people hate the English. Well, I don’t – they’re just wankers. We on the other hand are colonized by wankers. Can’t even find a decent culture to be colonized by”

          I hadn’t seen Trainspotting in many, many years until recently and was surprised to discover that Tommy was played by the same actor who was Lucius Vorenus in Rome.

    9. Suthenboy

      Or Carthago delenda est.

      An eternal thorn in the side of free men. Pluck it. I say we conquer and colonize Europe.

      1. leon

        Carthage was a Republic too…

    10. JaimeRoberto Delecto

      I don’t really care whether the Brits want to stay or go. It’s their decision and they have to live with the consequences. To channel my inner Taleb, they are the ones with skin in the game.
      What I care about is that they voted on it and the politicians thought they could ignore it. Kind of like how the Dems want to ignore the 2016 election.

  59. Pope Jimbo

    I love how Special K attacked PB as only a mayor and questioned his “governing experience”.

    Klobuchar repeatedly dinged Buttigieg as “mayor,” noting that he lost his only statewide campaign in Indiana as well as his bid to become the Democratic National Committee chairman.

    “I have not denigrated your experience as a local official. I have been one,” Klobuchar said. “I just think you should respect our experience when you look at how you evaluate someone who can get things done.”

    She sure seems confident that Politifact isn’t going to point out that her “local governing” experience was being a DA. Yeah, that is totes better experience for running the Executive than actually running a city.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      DA’s do have relevant experience in fucking over anyone that can be used as a stepping stone to higher office.

      1. Juvenile Bluster

        DA’s do have relevant experience in fucking over anyone that can be used as a stepping stone to higher office.

        Fixed for Kamala Harris

    2. leon

      Did she toss the copier at him too? Give him some of that experience?

    3. straffinrun

      Are all the other candidates physically afraid of her so no one will tell her she didn’t make the cut? Her name card on the debate stage was hand written on cardboard and looked suspiciously like her handwriting.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        What are you talking about? She’s surging in Iowa!

        Sure she’s still in 5th place (but she’s in third place in her home state), but her numbers have doubled!

        After stringing together a series of generally well-reviewed debate performances, Amy Klobuchar received what was perhaps the biggest news of her campaign this week when a new Emerson College poll found she had reached double-digits (10 percent) for the first time in a non-partisan poll of Iowa Democrats since entering the race.

        It is sort of sad to see how desperate local media is to have her do well.

        1. leon

          Not a single one has polled over 50%

        2. straffinrun

          They’re hyping her and they choose a pic of her screaming at some fat, white guy. Makes sense.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            You actually looked at a pic of Amy? You are a braver man than I am.

          2. Fourscore

            That’s the next VP, should a demo actually win

        3. SugarFree

          What has she done to deserve this much attention? She was just another one of the faceless rabble of sad desk lunch Senators until Kavanaugh. Is she still riding that? Some sort of desperate stand-in for the few Democrats that demand a woman run but could stomach Harris and Warren? She’s nothing. A cipher. The misbegotten child of a witch and a potato with the charm and personality of a writhing eel. The why of Klobucher is a mystery for the ages.

          1. Rhywun

            She’s even more insufferable than Warren or Harris, if that’s possible.

          2. I happened to be house sitting when she made her announcement in the snow. Since I had nothing else to do and access to a TV for a change I actually watched it, and found her to be likable enough* and really was surprised she didn’t draw more attention earlier. This was until all the brush trowing and stuff turned her into a caricature.

            *not policy wise just as a person.

          3. Pope Jimbo

            Her entire career has been built on a) riding her father’s coat tails (he was a beloved columnist for years) and b) never taking any strong stance that could get people upset with her.

            Then she cultivated this image that she’s a reasonable non-partisan person who gets things done. She will go on and on about how many things she has co-sponsored in the Senate. But if you look closely a shit ton of them are resolutions to honor Cub Scout 33 in Tempe, AZ for a job well done.

            And locally, the press is dying for her to win. They’ve been goading her to run forever. They think that she is Bill Clinton (Lake Woebegone version) who will be the moderate everyone wants.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    We don’t need to erase trans or non-binary people to show that barriers to menstrual equity, such as the tax on menstrual products, are unconstitutional sex discrimination.

    Gleeble globble twelfiginous molmstonopy.

    1. Akira

      “Menstrual equity”? What does that mean, and how is it supposed to happen when only one of the two sexes actually menstruates?

      And that’s biology’s doing, not society, so I’m not seeing how that’s “discrimination”. You pay for a product that you actually use, and you pay the same sales tax as you do on any other product.

      Now if you wanted to get rid of the sales tax, I’m all ears.

    1. Suthenboy

      Notice that one of those is an actual cartoon about a fictional character. I don’t see the McDuck swimming pool.

  61. straffinrun

    #Impeachmetoo.

    Help me get that trending.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    I don’t care. I understand that it might impact you. But I honestly view it with the same sort of disdain I feel for two nerds arguing over a particularly arcane rule in a game of D&D.

    So, roughly the same way I feel about the Great Gender Debate?

    Do

    not

    give

    a

    fuck.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      You will be made to care

  63. Anybody else here nostalgic for childhood Christmasses and/or things that never were?

    1. PieInTheSky

      no

    2. straffinrun

      Lost my ability to feel nostalgia years ago. Sometimes I’m sad/moved when I think about it.

      1. blackjack

        So, you miss the good old days when nostalgia was a thing?

    3. Pope Jimbo

      I don’t get nostalgic about my xmases as a kid. They were torture. Little Spazzy Jimbo had a hard time dealing with the anticipation of opening presents. I took approximately 200 years to get from Thanksgiving to present opening on xmas eve. And then when you did open presents, you either didn’t get the big present you wanted, or if by a miracle you did, you discovered that the present in real life wasn’t nearly as cool and fun as it looked in the Sears catalog.

      What I do miss, though, is watching my little spazzy kids enjoy xmas. Now that they are grown louts, it isn’t nearly as much fun.

      1. Tundra

        Agreed, but now I have great-nieces and nephews, so Christmas is spazzy again!

        It is nice to have Spawn 1 home, even if he’s a grown lout.

    4. Certified Public Asshat

      There was the Christmas I got my SNES and the one when I got my N64.

    5. So I was thinking about this at the store yesterday buying candy stocking stuffers.

      Part of what makes it special is that you do ‘t do it any other time. I wish, wish, wish I had made candy verboten in the house so that candy in the stockings would be a treat.

      What my kids DO have, which is no big thing TO ME, is breakfast cereal on Christmas morning. I never buy it, because the way my kids eat it, it’s very expensive. We rarely have milk because we all have sinus issues. So I get big bags of everybody’s favorite cereal for Christmas morning. They love that. There is no amount of Christmas soecially baked baked goods (homemade cheese danish, anyone?) that can beat cereal for Christmas morning breakfast.

      My dad got pickled herring and pickled pigs’ feet in his stocking. I got Russell Stovers coconut chocolates. My mom got Russell Stovers chocolate nuts mix.

      We went to the Country Club Plaza right before Christmas to eat at the Putsch’s cafeteria and walk around window shopping and looking at the lights.

      I’ve kind of retained that, though Putsch’s is no long there. (*sob*) We go to Jack Stack, walk around, look at the lights, window shop, then get cheesecake from the Cheesecake Factory to go. Last year we couldn’t and it broke my heart. This year we were not going to be able to again, which broke my hear, but now because Mr. Mojeaux won something, we can do that and I couldn’t be more excited.

      It’s stupid. Going out to eat, looking at a light show, getting cheesecake. Big deal. Well, it is to me.

      1. Raven Nation

        Mmmm, Jack Stack

    6. LJW

      I went from enjoying Christmas to dreading it. Every year we go to my parents on Christmas then get up at 4 on Christmas morning to drive 7 hours to my in-laws. We tell my daughter Santa delivered her presents to Grandmas. No time to relax once we arrive, we have to help setup for the rest of the family coming over. A very exhausting process.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        Oof, we have that problem now (live 2.5 hours away from family) but we have decided we cannot do everything in one day.

        Last year we did stay home on Christmas day and went up later , but it didn’t feel the same being away from family. This year our current plan is to do Christmas on Sunday for our kids, then leave to do Christmas eve with my family and Christmas day with hers. Our parents luckily only live 20-25 minutes from one another.

    7. Yeah, actually. When I was a kid and my dad and grandfather were still alive they were able between the two of them to force all my aunts to be in the same house together, so we’d have a big Christmas Eve dinner, my dad and my grandmother would peel off to go to midnight mass, and us kids would go to bed. In the morning, all my cousins and I would run downstairs and open presents. It was good.

      Now, none of the sisters talk to each other, so we don’t do anything at all together as a family anymore. My wife’s family does, so my daughter (and my son, next year) will still get that, and my wife and I are trying to make Christmas Eve a big deal at our house. But I do miss the old days when my family was a thing, and this time of year always brings it to mind.

      1. Tundra

        I loved Midnight Mass when I was younger. My Grandmother lived right next to the church, so we would have a kickass dinner, open presents and go to mass. I am no longer a practicing Catholic, but that was a first rate Christmas experience.

        It’s more boring now. We’ll go to my parent’s on the 24th and we’ll host my wife’s family on the 25th. I am gonna do a rotisserie beef tenderloin, so that will be good.

        1. LJW

          My father in law does an amazing smoked prime rib for Christmas. That’s one thing I’m excited about.

        2. I like Midnight Mass, even as a Mormon. I go for the music and the lights and the pomp and circumstance (none of which we have in my church [music we have, but all amateur and little of it truly beautiful]) and sometimes I stay for the whole service.

          My brother went with me once, but he’s in WA. My mother went with me once and while she liked it, not enough to go again for various reasons. My daughter went with me once but only because a good friend from church and her daughter (my daughter’s friend) were going. She loved it but she moved away. My husband doesn’t sleep well so everywhere and anywhere he must sit and be quiet, he starts church-nodding, and he never stays up past ten.

          I am going to go this year by myself and I don’t care. The music is divine (heh) and it brings me joy and peace.

          1. Chipwooder

            My only foray into a Mormon church was when our Mormon neighbor invited us to go to their Christmas service one year. Thought the music was quite nice. Whole lotta pretty young blonde women there, too.

          2. Whole lotta pretty young blonde women there, too.

            Yeah, that’s a thing.

            We used to have a joke that BYU was the University of Southern California, Provo campus.

          3. Jarflax

            Well the local [[[Church]]] may not have good music, but the parent [[[Church]]] does as well as anyone.

          4. Yes. I wish we could have that at the local level, but amateurs and a volunteer force…

            It shocked me when someone told me that other churches’ musicians were paid.

        3. invisible finger

          My favorite Midinght Mass was the one where 5 minutes in I realized I had 4 beers in my winter coat.

    8. Pat

      My dad had a unique ability to totally fuck up every family holiday despite having delusions of Norman Rockwell normalcy every year. Every damn year, he’d decorate the house, put up the lights, fire up the Christmas movies and Christmas music, drive around looking at Christmas lights… and then at the same time he’d yell at my mom over which tree to get, or pick a fight in the car and end up driving home like a maniac after looking at Christmas lights. Reliving his childhood traumas I guess. We did have some good Christmases, but they’re all tainted by at least one incident like that. This is kind of a shitty thing to say, but it’s actually a massive relief not having to deal with him during holidays anymore. Don’t miss that at all.

      Best Christmas for me… probably the year my dad surprised me with my first paintball gun. At the time I was just getting into it and had been renting my gear. One of the high school guys at my church had a really nice setup that he was selling to raise some scratch for the holidays and I was going to buy it from him, but my dad told me to hold off on it until he could do a little research first. The guy ended up selling his setup to somebody else and I was very disappointed. Needless to say, that box of paintball gear was under the tree on Christmas morning, and the memories I made playing with it make me nostalgic.

    9. Chipwooder

      Yes. Christmas was a lot more fun when I was the recipient of Christmas rather than the provider of it. There was magic to it as a kid, coming downstairs and seeing all those presents having miraculously appeared overnight. I also liked our Christmas Eve routine – we’d go to the evening mass, come home, and have what my parents used to call a “picnic” dinner. Cheeses, sausages/salamis, soft breadsticks, and finger foods like olives and marinated mushrooms. We’d eat by the roaring fire with the tree lights on and the other lights off, and listen to the Nutcracker Suite on the stereo.

      Having the better part of three weeks off to do fun Christmas stuff was nice as well.

  64. hayeksplosives

    Tired Splosives thought:

    How about instead of another Dem candidate debate, they do Jeopardy!

    What would the categories be?

    I’ll start:

    “Unintended Consequences”

    “US Constitution”

    Okay, GO !! Bonus if you add questions(well clues I guess in Jeopardy) too.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I prefer mud wrestling myself

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I think a cat butt may be required here. Any sicko who wants to see Klobuchar and Warren in bikinis wrestling in the mud is going to nuke our Family Friendly rating.

        1. mindyourbusiness

          *Envisions the above*
          *Foregoes lunch*

    2. Sensei

      Green New Deal

    3. Pat

      High Crimes

      Misdemeanors

      Potent Potables

    4. Timeloose

      I’ll take the rapists for 500 Alex.

      1. MikeS

        Whore Ads for $200, please.

    5. Germane Genocides

    6. invisible finger

      “American Nazi Party Platform of 1930”

      Just so people can see how mainstream it has become

    7. JaimeRoberto Delecto

      Cronyism

  65. The Late P Brooks

    I, too, yearn for a past which never was.

  66. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy!

    13 goals in one game? That must have been fun to watch.

    It was, unless you like defense and goaltending. The Wild just have the ‘Yotes number this year. Arizona has lost 13 and 3 of those are the Wild.

    Still, that Taylor Hall kid is a stud and AZ is gonna be a contender.

    Turn the volume up for this one.

    That’s what a monster (clean) hit looks and sounds like.

    Have a great day, everybody!

  67. The Late P Brooks

    About this Dingell business…

    Am I the only one moved to murderous rage by the establishmentarian veneration of people who in life were unreservedly odious, petty, venal, self-aggrandizing crooks? Dingell was the scum of the earth. No insult could be too cruel. That goes for the lot of them, McCain, Thurmond, (soon-to-be-deceased) Carter, Johnson, every one. From chimp-pan-A to chimpanzee.

    1. SugarFree

      If they didn’t venerate the venal, who will venerate them after death? Politics is a Ponzi scheme of scum elevating scum.

    2. straffinrun

      Just heard what Trump said. Haven’t had a laugh that hard in a while.

      1. Fourscore

        #metoo

        I’ve been to a lot of funerals and always the preacher or someone talks about the celebration of X’s life.

        Then I had to laugh at Trump’s joke. I hope everyone is laughing at my remembrance, for the same reason. .

        1. straffinrun

          It’s a joke. I don’t think St. Peter is having his mind changed either way by it.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Admittedly, I know little about Dingell, but I consider it highly unlikely that anyone representing Detroit for six decades wasn’t as corrupt as Commodus.

    4. Chipwooder

      That was my reaction – I read Dingell described in one huffy article as “beloved”.

      Dingell spent almost six fucking decades as a government parasite. Fuck him.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        He succeeded his father in Congress when John Sr. died. That district in Michigan has been represented by a Dingell since 1933.

        Tell me again how there are no hereditary titles in the US.

    5. mrfamous

      Dingell was the very definition of corruption. Bought and paid for (handsomely) by General Motors. Political office bequeathed to him at 29 years old having never held anything resembling a real job and eventually died a multimillionaire. He passed his hereditary title on to his 27 years younger wife in 2015 when he fell ill.

      I hate a lot of things in politics, but there’s nothing I hate more than “political dynasties.” We fought a war in the 18th century to finally rid ourselves of this crap, and we started it all back up again almost immediately (hello John Adams!)

    6. Pope Jimbo

      I’m with you. This is the same as wrapping yourself in the flag to avoid criticism. Dingell was a pillar of horrible that stuck out even in Congress.

      And I’m sure Debbie Dingell won’t say anything bad about Trump when he shuffles off this mortal coil.

  68. PieInTheSky

    One consequence I’ve used for jury panel members who violate instructions is, even though they can’t be selected as jurors, they must still sit in the courtroom and watch the rest of the trial. I wonder if it would work for people who make outrageous attempts to avoid service

    https://twitter.com/emilymiskel/status/1207658897634471936

    Can US judges do this?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Judges are gods among mortals in almost all of America

    2. leon

      US Judges are empowered to do all that they want. What are you going to do? Call the cops?

    3. Gustave Lytton

      And another judge is chiming that they used equally unlawful means to punish people for spite. Yet to suggest that these unaccountable tyrants should be fed into a woodchipper is beyond the pale. Fuck you Preet.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Judge Emily Miskel
        @emilymiskel
        Follow
        470th District Court, Collin County, TX. Stanford Mech Eng, Harvard Law School. Political advertising by Emily Miskel.

        Top.Men.

    4. mrfamous

      Since there’s not much of a way to stop them, yes. Do you mean is it legal? Probably not, but who gives a shit about the law when it comes to judges and courtrooms.

  69. The Late P Brooks

    Debbie Dingell would probably be cleaning hotel bathrooms if she had not inherited her husband’s phoney baloney job.

    1. Meh, looks like she was born into wealth and privilege, she’d be fine, sitting on boards and foundations and such.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        looks like she was born into wealth and privilege

        She was, old Detroit money.

      2. mrfamous

        She was General Motors royalty.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      You don’t insinuate that a dead man is in hell, just because you are angry. That’s bad form and disgusting.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        *eliminates all dead politicians from “things to talk about” list*

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          There’s a big difference between you applauding a politician’s death and an elected official saying on live TV in front of a crowd that some dead man is in hell.

          1. Suthenboy

            In the latter case everyone gets to laugh.

      2. Pat

        You don’t insinuate that a dead man is in hell

        Of course not, they don’t get cast into hell until the resurrection at the end of the age.

      3. Suthenboy

        Dont insinuate, just come out and call it what it is.

  70. The Late P Brooks

    From ‘way up there:

    Someone is having fun with statistics. The average life-span was much less than today due to much higher rates of infant mortality.

    Yeah, as I recall, if you lived past five, you had a pretty good chance of living to 70.

    1. straffinrun

      And a better chance if you live past 0.

  71. kinnath

    I saw a Prius on the way into work today with a big Ruger sticker on the back.

    I can’t quite reconcile a Prius-driver with a gun-owner.

    1. Tundra

      Until he bought the Jeep, my SIG-obsessed brother had a Prius. He was commuting a ton and made a rational decision.

      1. Correct. For long commutes, it is the financially wiser choice.

    2. Chipwooder

      My wife used to drive a much-loved Prius. She would still have it if it hadn’t gotten wrecked when a truck t-boned it. We upsized to a CX-9 because the one big drawback of it was the cramped size, but she will remark from time to time that she misses it.

      I’ve seen a Prius that had a sticker saying “I Use the Money I Save On Gas To Buy More Guns”

    3. Timeloose

      Is that like seeing a Dead Head sticker on a Cadillac?

      1. Well, you knocked that out of the park.

    4. Sensei

      In the Tesla forums every few months somebody asks about best places and ways to securely store a firearm.

      Hilarity usually ensues with a combination of the typical buyer demographics here in the US and the increase in European buyers.

      1. Tundra

        Sounds like a grand trolling opportunity to me.

        1. Sensei

          I usually go for the why are poor people subsidizing my purchase of a $50k automobile?

          That doesn’t win me many friends there.

    5. Not Adahn

      I OTOH get bombarded by pro-Trump email from the other members of the bullseye team because being a shooter means I must be a Republican.

    6. invisible finger

      Hey, I post here

  72. Rebel Scum

    Donald Trump: Slayer of Kittens

    Warren said, “I can’t get into the head of Donald Trump. That’s just — that’s a really horrible place to go. I think that Donald Trump looks out for Donald Trump. And he looks out for Donald Trump’s closest buddies who give him total loyalty, and he looks out for the other billionaires because he thinks they’ve got a whole bro thing going on. That’s what Donald Trump does. And if he had to step on a cute little kitten to get something done that would help himself, he would do it.”

    1. Pat

      She would have accused him of nuking schoolgirls, but Johnson already stole that thunder.

    2. leon

      And if he had to step on a cute little kitten

      Coming from the “Eggs => Omelettes” faction of the left.

      1. R C Dean

        Now do Antifa and the BAMN crowd.

    3. The Other Kevin

      He’s horrible. Unlike all those other selfless public servants, not at all interested in their own gain, at the debate.

      1. Akira

        Clearly, Hillary Clinton passed up a life of fame, fortune, and privilege to undertake a humble career in government.

    4. Drake

      Would he pretend to be a Native American to get what he wants?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        And How!

        1. Tundra

          Uh oh. Swiss is gonna be on the warpath.

          1. Take it back!

          2. blackjack

            Your Indian name is “stole my Thunder” winning pun of the day.

    5. Suthenboy

      Like I said above….upside down glasses.

      If Warren had unfettered power I would bet my last buck at some point mass graves would be filled with deplorables.

  73. leon

    In this latest iteration of our attempts to spell LEARN TO CODE, i hope we get to the end and no one adds the final E

    1. Gustave Lytton

      What a cunte.

    2. I think you guys are really going to do it this time. (totally not planning on fucking it up with the last letter)

    3. Pope Jimbo

      I thought it was because cod pieces are coming back!

  74. Pat

    Report: 267 million Facebook users IDs and phone numbers exposed online

    A database containing more than 267 million Facebook user IDs, phone numbers, and names was left exposed on the web for anyone to access without a password or any other authentication.

    Comparitech partnered with security researcher Bob Diachenko to uncover the Elasticsearch cluster. Diachenko believes the trove of data is most likely the result of an illegal scraping operation or Facebook API abuse by criminals in Vietnam, according to the evidence.

    The information contained in the database could be used to conduct large-scale SMS spam and phishing campaigns, among other threats to end users.

    Or as Facebook calls it, Wednesday.

    1. Rhywun

      Why on earth would you give your phone number to Facebook?!

      1. Pat

        I think you have to for the mobile app, which is how probably a good third of their users access the service. That and it’s probably buried in your ad profile from public records correlation.

      2. Festus

        Because Grandma is lonely?

      3. Festus

        Because you never sent a Thank You card to your Granny?

    2. JD is Unemployed

      Presumably this also includes whatsapp users not using facebook itself?

  75. Festus

    Tapping out now. Note to Wifey – Don’t assume shit. It’s a waste of time and it always turns out to be wrong.

    1. JD is Unemployed

      I’m confused.

      1. Jarflax

        If I was new here I’d read this as Brooksie and Festus being married and arguing about their new dog.

        1. JD is Unemployed

          That’ll do.

          ps – I hope you guys work it out

  76. The Late P Brooks

    Note to Wifey – Don’t assume shit. It’s a waste of time and it always turns out to be wrong.

    “That’s not my dog.”

    1. Festus

      It followed me home…

  77. straffinrun

    Couple days old, but Hat and Hair getting some stiff competition.

    https://twitter.com/kyledunnigan/status/1206653072057028611

  78. Okie dokie, Glibbies. Morning links are slowing down and it’s time to get cracking.

  79. Sensei

    Everybody in the wheelhouse was shouting “Starboard!” so I’m not sure how it happened.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-mexico-cruise-ship-crash-21136373

  80. Spartacus

    Bowl games start tonight!!
    We have one final two-week orgy of college football left before months of gloom and despair.