Economics Corner with Paul Krugman and Winston’s Mom

This freaking guy just keeps on writing this crap.

At some point you’d think he’d give it up.

So child care really should be an important part of the progressive agenda. Hillary Clinton had a serious plan back in 2016, but the news media were too busy obsessing over emails to pay attention. And if you ask me, Elizabeth Warren’s new proposal isn’t getting as much attention as it should.

For the Warren proposal is the kind of initiative that, if enacted, would change millions of lives for the better, yet could actually happen in the near future.

Among other things, unlike purist visions of replacing private health insurance with “Medicare for all,” providing child care wouldn’t require imposing big new taxes on the middle class. The sums of money involved are small enough that new taxes on great wealth and high incomes, which are desirable on other grounds, could easily raise sufficient revenue.

Keep in mind this is a guy with an estimated net worth worth of $2.5 million.  Just enough to be able to afford to live in a trendy neighborhood in New Jersey, but perhaps not enough to be “great wealth” or “high income.”  But do continue, darling.

The logic of the Warren plan is fairly simple (although some commentators are trying to make it sound complex).

Logic?  Well grab a spoon and eat my ass.

Child care would be regulated to ensure that basic quality was maintained and subsidized to make it affordable. The size of the subsidy would depend on parents’ incomes: lower-income parents would get free care, higher-income parents would have to pay something, but nobody would have to pay more than 7 percent of income

There is already a tax credit for child care.  The details are here but we’re talking $2000/year for qualifying families.  Incidentally, the child care provider is already aware of this tax credit and price their services accordingly.  They currently have no incentive to price their services below this $2000 per year, so they’ll make sure it stays above $2000 or about $38 per week so their customers max out this tax credit. Need proof of this lack of incentive?  The average cost of infant care in the US last year was — $211 per week.

But sure…maybe charging $38 per week is unrealistically low.

Warren’s advisers put the budget cost at $70 billion a year, or around one-third of one percent of GDP. That’s not chicken feed, but it’s not that much for something that could transform so many lives.

It is, for example, well under half the revenue lost due to the Trump tax cut, which seems to have been used mainly for share buybacks. And it’s a tiny fraction of what it would cost to replace all private health insurance with a public program.

Again with the stock buybacks…. the sake of all that is fuck!  Let people control more of their money they might just do what they want with it. Some might get their finances in order, other might buy my personal favorite, hookers and blow.  More hookers. More blow.

Meanwhile, on the right there are the usual cries of “socialism,” which these days means anything to the left of eating poor people’s babies.

Cut that out.  You’re too much a fucking pussy to beat off, let alone beat a straw-man.

More interestingly, I’m seeing at least some commentary on the right that doesn’t just push back against the whole idea of making it easier for mothers to work, it wants us to go back to the days when families could “live on one income.”

Darling, there’s no link here.  That means you just made this up.

Going back to this $70 billion number lets say this does go in effect.  Is this number go higher or lower as individuals try to fogure out how many kids they have?  Had I known I can send Winston to daycare for free, there might be more than one Winston.  Think about that.  Two Winstons!

And it would be for free, I work how I get paid—under the table.  I haven’t paid taxes since 1967.

With this increased demand, will the cost of the subsidy go up or down?  How will supply be determnied to adjust to demand? Now that I think about it, it might work out okay for me, as I’ll get more business greasing the wheels of that governing body.

Still, Krugman provides no evidence as to how this will substantively reduce the cost of child care.  While I can point to subsidies like, I dunno, college tuition assistance, or rent control…neither of which actually reduced the cost of tuition or housing.

But do continue providing cover for Lizzy.  Lizzy is busy laying low and hoping we all forget the whole white squaw thing.

Comments

293 responses to “Economics Corner with Paul Krugman and Winston’s Mom”

  1. blackjack

    I’ll take the first.

    1. Spudalicious

      Damn. Sloppy seconds with Winston’s Mom again.

      1. blackjack

        Yeah, and I refreshed twice, which is twice more than Winston’s mom did.

    1. Tres Cool

      Would.

      1. Rebel Scum

        Seconded. (Provided she is conscious and willing…)

        1. Spudalicious

          I’d settle for willing.

          1. Rebel Scum

            You need one of these.

          2. Is it NSFW if the vulvae are synthetic?

          3. commodious spittoon

            Is it still NSFW if you photoshop a man’s nipples over a woman’s?

          4. I saw on basic cable a woman with a post-cancer boob job whose new nipples were tattooed on. It was not blurred out. So, nipple tattoos: totes SFW.

          5. Nephilium

            /Starts watching It’s Always Sunny at work

            /finds the flaw in Q’s thinking.

          6. Spudalicious

            Is that an Ivanka Trump doll?

          7. Tres Cool

            Im guessing you just haul em out in the backyard and hit em with a hose to clean em out?
            Or on the kitchen floor with a bottle brush ?

          8. Francisco d’Anconia

            Where would you store something like that?

            Asking for a friend

          9. Jarflax

            In the basement cells with the live ones?

          10. I treat my property much better than that. It’s far more expensive to replace the synthetic one.

  2. Spudalicious

    Krugman’s net worth is only $2.5M? Another sign he sucks as an economist.

    1. No shit right? The guy is a fucking Nobel Prize winner with Goodthink politics. He could be booking megabucks speaking gigs.

      Also:

      https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/3/4/review-remington-tac-13/

      I might just have to get one.

      1. Spudalicious

        I’ve got a Shockwave in 20ga. With the birds head grip, I actually prefer to brace it against my ribs instead of shooting from the hip.

        1. As long as we’re talking pseudo-NFA stuff, built myself one of these fairly recently.

          https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-phosphate-classic-shockwave-pistol-kit-black-5165448973.html

          Easy to shoot in a myriad of ways. Recommended.

      2. AlmightyJB

        If I could put that short front end on my 870, I would love it. No desire for shotgun with a pistol grip though. Except for maybe something like this for the woods.

        https://youtu.be/tFu-2N7zxhg

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Unless he’s filing wealth disclosures somewhere, I’m skeptical of the estimates. He was an advisor to Enron twenty years ago and the NYT in addition to his full-time job.

      Besides at some point, if everything is paid for and he has enough for him and his cats to live on for the rest of their lives, what does it matter?

    3. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      Maybe he’s been spending it all on hookers and blow.

  3. Does Rufus even work?

  4. Old Man With Candy

    More interestingly, I’m seeing at least some commentary on the right that doesn’t just push back against the whole idea of making it easier for mothers to work, it wants us to go back to the days when families could “live on one income.”

    I usually see this coming from the Left, often in the form of, “Minimum wage won’t support a family of four.”

    1. it wants us to go back to the days when families could “live on one income.”

      The horror!!!!

      Y’know, I have met a bunch of working moms and dads who would love to go to single income, or two part time incomes. There are a heck of a lot of people out there who begrudgingly put their kids in daycare and work 50 hours a week each so that they have a place to live and food to eat.

      Sure, a lot of them are really, really horrible with money and could make it work on a single income, but it doesn’t help that 20-25% of their money goes to Uncle Sugar.

      1. The fart in the room that no one wants to sniff is that a lot of that welfare state is driven by single moms and old people; two of the most lionized demographics.

        1. There’s also a whiff of Protestantization (or, more aptly, progressivization) in the air, especially when you get them talking about single income families who do private or homeschool

      2. Nephilium

        I just want to know how the hell I can get taxed in both the city I work in and the city I live in. Thankfully, that’s gone to the wayside since I’ve started with the new company.

    2. Jarflax makes the case below. I hear it from my Trumpster father and his contemporaries (75 years-old ish). Back in the good old days a man could drop out of high school get a job at the steel mill, brickyard orTappan/Westinghouse factory and support his family, The wife wouldn’t have to work and could raise the kids, It was a virtual utopia. Now, none of these guys are writing think pieces so I don’t think they are the one’s Kruggies talking about but the argument is out there and in many cases coming from the right.

  5. “Lizzy is busy laying low and hoping we all forget the whole white squaw thing.”

    She also just nuked her chances by saying she wants to break up Big Tech. She has to pay lip service and everyone knows she has no intention of doing it, but alienating prospective donors, even just for theatrical effect, is not a good move.

  6. J. Frank Parnell

    wants us to go back to the days when families could “live on one income.”

    The horror!

    Anyways, isn’t that part of the motivation behind the push for a “living wage”? That one minimum-wage earner can support a family of four?

    1. Rhywun

      Krugnuts in his very first sentence bemoans the “fact” that often both parents “must” work “to make ends meet”. The guy can’t even keep his narratives straight within a single article.

      1. juris imprudent

        You can’t really blame him for that – no one on the left can hold a coherent thought when faced with those dueling narratives. We really should be doing more to ping-pong them between the two in order to induce whiplash.

  7. Rhywun

    Rent control isn’t a government subsidy, sweetie – it’s a massive transfer of wealth from the poor and young to the wealthy and old – but I get your drift.

    1. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

      My old boss 20 years ago was worth at least $3MM then and paying $450/mo for a two bedroom in Cathedral Hill of SF thanks to rent control.

      Now, if rented out, that place would be at least $5k/month. He’s still living there. And people here complain about a “housing crisis”. Bah.

    1. Rhywun

      I wonder what Lou Reed’s been up to.

      1. Jarflax

        He’s waiting to hear that Trump is being impeached so he can die happy.

          1. Nephilium

            He didn’t get his wish but the team tried.

    2. I’m sure Swiss is thrilled, too.

  8. Jarflax

    More interestingly, I’m seeing at least some commentary on the right that doesn’t just push back against the whole idea of making it easier for mothers to work, it wants us to go back to the days when families could “live on one income.”

    Ok, and what the hell is wrong with wanting that? How the hell does it make sense to tax us all to subsidize childcare to make it ‘easier’ for women (or men) who don’t earn enough at their job to make it worthwhile after they pay for childcare? Do these elitist pieces of crap actually think working a $400 a week menial or data entry job is some liberating exalting experience? Hey let’s spend $400 in Government money to pay for childcare, so Mom can go to her mind numbing job while the kiddies sit in daycare and earn $400, that makes sense.

    1. Who was talking about work being a means to an end here the other day? Feminists, and now progs as a whole, have come to the conclusion that your job is a core attribute of your identity. Without a job, you are less or unworthy.

      They completely miss the point that the job is an economic transaction in search of a paycheck. If it wasn’t that, it would be a hobby.

      1. Jarflax

        your job is a core attribute of your identity

        My identity is apparently answering the same questions about entity selection 200 times a year, ‘drafting’ conveyances, and every so often negotiating with another lawyer. My identity is boring, frustrating, and sometimes seems not worth it.

        1. Nephilium

          I work in IT, I think I win about answering the same questions over and over. FFS people, if you have a phone system, the phone numbers are just there to tell the system where to deliver the calls and have no bearing on what kind of calls are delivered there.

        2. Fourscore

          “your job is a core attribute of your identity”

          Someone has stolen my identity since I have no job but somehow Mrs Fourscore is on my butt everyday, do this, do that. Way worse than my last boss.

      2. juris imprudent

        And then those idiots can’t figure out why everyone isn’t all fulfilled and happy with their ‘career’.

        1. Jarflax

          To the guy who makes $1,000,000 + a year pontificating about things to rooms full of adoring sycophants it seems obvious that your career is the source of life’s satisfactions. To the movie star getting paid $10,000,000 a picture it is so clear you just follow your bliss and poof magic happens. Just follow your dream…

          Ok, except every little boy’s dream was to be a Super Bowl winning Quarterback, who moonlighted as a masked super hero, and every little girl wanted to be a Princess. The applicants outnumber the openings. No one, not one single person, sat in their room at night fantasizing about doing data entry, handling a real estate closing, repairing sewers, or hosing out a cattle truck. This is why they pay you to go to work.

          1. Akira

            Yea, most jobs fucking suck.

            I either want a job that is very high paying and possibly fulfilling, or a job that is extremely easy and boring.

            I miss the hell out of my previous position – it consisted of receiving admission paperwork for nursing facilities, building an account for the resident in our system, and setting up any insurance on the account (it was at a long-term care pharmacy that delivers medications to these places). Once you got to where you could handle 90% of situations that came up, it was pretty much a zero-stress job. Sometimes the admission would be really slow, and we would just shoot the shit (cool co-workers) or play games on our phones (I got pretty good at chess this way). The compensation-to-effort ratio was excellent at that job.

            But then they moved it away to another state, so I’m in a stressful nightmare job with a shitload of overtime right now. I need something that is pretty much a straight 40 hours so I can continue studying web development and get an actual good job someday, but I can’t do that if I’m working most weekends and staying until 7 PM every night…

      3. “Who was talking about work being a means to an end here the other day? Feminists, and now progs as a whole, have come to the conclusion that your job is a core attribute of your identity.”

        That was me. Feminism’s elevation of career success as an end in and of itself, along with its idolization of indiscriminate promiscuity and anti-natalism, is, IMO, why female happiness and life satisfaction has been monotonically falling for the past 50 years.

  9. Rebel Scum

    Since daddy got a raise, hit that theme music.

    1. Rebel Scum

      On second thought, I better save some.

      1. Jarflax

        Grats on the raise?

    2. Nephilium

      I made it a point to reach out to my new (third in a year) boss asking how raises work (since I got a good review, from the last boss). If nothing else, I’ll take the bonuses, and start looking elsewhere if there’s no raise.

    1. Akira

      Awesome!

      I still want a traditional Stiletto switchblade, but the price of the real ones (e.g. not flea market junk) is more than I can justify at the moment.

      1. This is (according to online reviews) a good inexpensive, but solid, starter knife. I’m new to switchblades so we’ll see how it goes. I’m sure I will upgrade if I like it.

      2. blackjack

        I have an old ivory switchblade made in Italy from way back, but it has a broken spring. I keep meaning to take it apart and make a spring for it. I just have to find the rivets and figure out how to peen the new ones over when I’m done….

  10. Damn kulaks and saboteurs ruining everything!

    http://news.trust.org/item/20190309205620-dfuso

  11. Drake

    Maine Mayor resigns for inappropriate comment (joke?) I swear I didn’t laugh at.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1104193590710976513?s=19

    1. Spudalicious

      I did NOT snicker at that.

        1. Fourscore

          I grinned though, no denying

    2. Jarflax

      He told racist jokes in texts…

      They don’t call them the stupid party for nothing.

    3. I like a good moolie joke as much as the next guy but that was pretty weak. If you’re going to go there go there. Hit ’em with the old ‘if the Flintstones were black’ or ‘am I a white zebra with black stripe”… “Antique farm equipment”? even if it had been funny it has no pacing and awkward delivery. Don Rickles threw away better jokes.

      1. Tres Cool

        Wanna clear a room or give everyone at a party a reason to stay away from you?

        “Why does a police dog lick his ass?” is the A-bomb of racist jokes.

    4. straffinrun

      Of course all the responses are “No, you guys are worser racists”. Can’t we just get along and agree all pols suck?

      1. Rhywun

        You’re asking a bit much of the Twitterati.

        1. Considering about 75% of them fail the Turing Test, asking them to correctly identify an orange from a lineup is a stretch.

  12. Wake up

    Thank the Lord I’m not a lib

    Eat breakfast consisting only of bacon to own the Muslims

    watch Fox News at full volume with my windows open to own libtard neighbors

    Head to bank in my lifted truck, rolling coal, to own the snowflakes

    Wear my ICE hat to own any illegal wetbacks who might be waiting in line at the bank

    Get my paycheck in 20s to take home

    Spend rest of day marking “Donald Trump lives here” on all my money

    Eat more pork for dinner

    Jack off while imagining our stunning first lady and our ruggedly handsome new president.

    Polish off a fifth of Jim Beam in my American flag boxers to toast another day of owning the libs

    1. Jarflax

      Are you trying to get HM in a bad mood?

    2. Nephilium

      Jim Beam? Piker! You should go with Merica Bourbon.

      /I’ve never had the bourbon, and doubt it’s any good. I’m just entertained by the name

  13. Old Man With Candy

    We’re going to go out and pick up a (we hope authentic) NY style pizza, crack open some wine, and watch something on Netflix or Amazon. It’s an exciting life.

    1. Akira

      I have a bottle of Glenfiddich 12-year, a sixer of Anchor Steam Beer, and the dough rising for some pepperoni pizza. Not NY style; I usually make them in an, erhm, deep dish because I want to make a lot of pizza but only have a residential-size oven. So I expand it upwards instead of outwards.

      And I’m probably going to watch some Mr. Show with Bob and David later.

      1. Nephilium

        Further north I’ve got a fridge full of Guinness (the $5 rebate on 8 packs makes it cheap), a lot of liquor, and working through the second season of Dirk Gently right now.

      2. Don Escaped Texas

        Glenfiddich 12

        as my best friend says: “sharing whiskey”

    2. Jarflax

      Wouldn’t an authentic NY pizza be awfully cold and stale by the time you got it home?

    3. Spudalicious

      At this point in life, I’ll take boring and content over exciting any day of the week.

    4. blackjack

      Lotta goombas out there, you just might find a decent NY pizza, especially on the eastern half. Most of the Mexican food sucks, though.

      1. Spudalicious

        Isn’t that some weird shit? Most of the Mexican food in Phoenix sucks. I’ve eaten at a couple of Mexican places out in Wickenburg and they suck too. Yet here in Ideeho I’ve got one of the best Mexican places I’ve ever eaten at, and taco trucks to die for.

        1. The Bearded Hobbit

          New Mexican food is superior to all other “mexican” food so I’m spoiled.

          We stopped in a little place in far northern Montana that offered burritos and enchiladas on the menu. We scoffed and ordered hamburgers. After the order I read the history of the place and discovered that the cook was from Chama, NM.

          1. Tejicano

            Well, Chama is pretty far north – almost Colorado – and a pretty tiny town (been there). No guarantee that he would know real New Mexican food.

  14. Rebel Scum

    WILLIAMS: Our Planet Is Not Fragile

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims that “the world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.” The people at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change agree, saying that to avoid some of the most devastating impacts of climate change, the world must slash carbon emissions by 45 percent by 2030 and completely decarbonize by 2050.

    Such dire warnings are not new. In 1970, Harvard University biology professor George Wald, a Nobel laureate, predicted, “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” Also in 1970, Paul Ehrlich, a Stanford University biologist, predicted in an article for The Progressive, “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” The year before, he had warned, “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” Despite such harebrained predictions, Ehrlich has won no fewer than 16 awards, including the 1990 Crafoord Prize, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences’ highest award.

    Leftists constantly preach such nonsense as “The world that we live in is beautiful but fragile.” “The 3rd rock from the sun is a fragile oasis.” “Remember that Earth needs to be saved every single day.” These and many other statements, along with apocalyptic predictions, are stock in trade for environmentalists. Worse yet, this fragile-earth indoctrination is fed to the nation’s youth from kindergarten through college. That’s why many millennials support Rep. Ocasio-Cortez.

    Let’s examine just a few cataclysmic events that exceed any destructive power of mankind and then ask how our purportedly fragile planet could survive. The 1883 eruption of the Krakatoa volcano, in present-day Indonesia, had the force of 200 megatons of TNT. That’s the equivalent of 13,300 15-kiloton atomic bombs, the kind that destroyed Hiroshima in World War II. Before that was the 1815 Tambora eruption, the largest known volcanic eruption. It spewed so much debris into the atmosphere that 1816 became known as the “Year Without a Summer.” It led to crop failures and livestock death in the Northern Hemisphere, producing the worst famine of the 19th century. The A.D. 535 Krakatoa eruption had such force that it blotted out much of the light and heat of the sun for 18 months and is said to have led to the Dark Ages. Geophysicists estimate that just three volcanic eruptions — Indonesia (1883), Alaska (1912) and Iceland (1947) — spewed more carbon dioxide and sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere than all of mankind’s activities during our entire history.

    Our so-called fragile earth survived other catastrophic events, such as the floods in China in 1887, which took an estimated 1 million to 2 million lives, followed by floods there in 1931, which took an estimated 1 million to 4 million lives. What about the impact of earthquakes on our fragile earth? Chile’s 1960 Valdivia earthquake was 9.5 on the Richter scale. It created a force equivalent to 1,000 atomic bombs going off at the same time. The deadly 1556 earthquake in China’s Shaanxi province devastated an area of 520 miles.

    1. Doomsday cults are very lucrative.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Feel free to decarbonize yourself first AOC. Preferably by suck starting a shotgun.

  15. Jarflax

    Joys of work part 500, I have just set up two new LLCs for a client on Friday, everything is done approved by the state, Operating Agreements drafted etc., except I can’t finish the work until Monday because the geniuses at the IRS set up their automated online EIN application to 1. only be available during the day Mon- Fri and 2. Only allow one EIN per applicant per day, applicant not meaning Company, but rather any and all of person applying, responsible party, applicant address, or IP address (in other words if any of those match it won’t give you a second one).

    Because making it easier for people to create new businesses would be bad in some way.

    1. I really enjoy my job. There are times I can’t believe I get paid to do it.

      HOWEVER, it is certainly not an end to itself and it does not comprise the whole of my life. If it were the only thing in my life, I would be suicidally depressed. I’ve found most people who claim their lives are 100% fulfilled by work are either:

      1. Liars
      2. Damaged
      3. Autistic

      1. Akira

        Sometimes when I get in pointless “what if” conversations about winning the mega millions jackpot or something, people say “I’d need something to do, so I’d probably get a job at Wal-Mart or something”.

        I don’t get this. I’d be happier than ever with no job. I get that humans need a feeling of accomplishment, but I could easily get that by studying history/philosophy/economics or running a monetized blog on a topic I enjoy.

        I think the closest thing to this that I could realistically achieve is a split of freelance web design work and some enjoyable part-time job (like a bookstore clerk).

      2. . I’ve found most people who claim their lives are 100% fulfilled by work are either:

        1. Liars
        2. Damaged
        3. Autistic

        *nods enthusiastically*

        Two points :
        1) if work was truly fulfilling they would charge admission instead of paying you.
        2) most workaholics are escaping really shitty home lives, usually self-inflicted. I’ve never met a workaholic and walked away thinking that I wanted his job/life.

        1. CPRM

          What is college besides charging admission?

          1. An often bad investment

    2. Akira

      I know someone who is under the impression that LLCs allow a company to commit blatant fraud or damages, then escape all liability by just “folding”. This has come up whenever I try to argue that victims suing for damages is a better check on corporate behavior than government regulations.

      1. Everyone knows that business only exist to either cheat their customers, kill their customers or destroy Planet Earth. The only things standing between us and Armageddon are alphabet soup agencies staffed by incompetent affirmative action hires.

        1. As I said in my homebuilding series, my biggest regret is that these damn building codes have kept me from my lifelong dream of causing the death of an entire family with my shoddy work.

      2. Jarflax

        Well if the fraud is blatant there is probably enough personal misconduct by the owners/officers that they would be personally liable, but yes the point of LLCs (or Corporations, or Limited Partnerships, which were the prior methods) is to limit liability exposure to just the assets of the Company. The alternative is to make everyone investing in a business liable personally, which would drastically reduce the number of start ups, the ability to raise capital, and would mire us in a permanent recession.

        1. robc

          As discussed on TOS , can still be worked around via shell individuals* as owners with all capital coming in as loans.

          *elderly with no assets being the best choice. They are judgement proof.

          1. Jarflax

            And why is this better than the status quo?

          2. robc

            It isn’t. The status quo prevents having to go thru that kind of crap.

            It was an argument against people wanting to get rid of limited liability. You can’t, so might as well formalize it.

          3. robc

            And with honest ownership, it allows piercing the veil and prosecution for fraud.

          4. Jarflax

            Fair enough. I thought you were proposing that idea as an alternative.

      3. Don Escaped Texas

        It’s one of those market efficiency questions. People who have an attorney read all the postings in the business paper every day see it differently than the rest. If we all had perfect knowledge of the market, no one could fold while we were holding the bag.

        Real estate developers have this down to an art: each operation a man/builder undertakes is its own corporate entity. He takes huge risk with high leverage, and the payoffs are even larger so long as the economy is stable. Once the economy tanks, he takes his latest entity into bankruptcy and goes home to his big house to wait for the economy to turn around and start the process all over. If enough truck drivers vote for him, such a man might become president.

        1. Jarflax

          Real estate developers have this down to an art: each operation a man/builder undertakes is its own corporate entity. He takes huge risk with high leverage, and the payoffs are even larger so long as the economy is stable. Once the economy tanks, he takes his latest entity into bankruptcy and goes home to his big house to wait for the economy to turn around and start the process all over. If enough truck drivers vote for him, such a man might become president.

          They had the choice between a developer, who at least recognized their right to exist and a shill for Goldman Sachs (who profited from selling the garbage mortgage backed securities, then profited again when those securities tanked and they bought up other bank’s assets for pennies, then profited a third time when the ‘bail out’ paid off their exposure from all the hedge securities they had written with our money), who called them deplorables.

          Don’t get me wrong, developers are well known for making sure all the money is in one company and all the debts are in another. (and they sometimes fold the debt entity even when the market is going strong, just because they can).

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            I despise Hillary. Why do people keep explaining Hillary to me?

  16. LJW

    “The average cost of infant care in the US last year was — $211 per week.”

    I wish we could have come close to $211 per week. We paid $360 per week with our first. Decided to go in home for our second in her first year. That’s still $225 a week on top of the $250 a week we are paying for our 3 year old.

  17. Hammercorps

    A question for the techy Glibs. I just bought a new HDD because my old one was going into drive failure.

    Installed it fine, and when booting up my PC, I’m getting a “Select boot device” message.

    Thing is, I only used my HDD for file storage, my OS is installed on an SSD, which hasn’t changed. I’ve gone into the BIOS to set the SSD as my primary boot device, which hasn’t changed anything.

    My online digging says I need to reinstall Windows, which is fine, but because I didn’t change my boot drive, shouldn’t it be fine without a reinstall?

    1. LJW

      Correct, no need to reinstall Windows.

      1. LJW

        Whoops mistakenly deleted the rest of my comment. Make sure the SSD is at the top of the list. Also you may have a boot priority menu in your advanced BIOS section. Check that too.

        1. Hammercorps

          Done both of those. No change

    2. Your primary OS partition and your boot loader/sector don’t necessarily have to be on the same drive. The boot sector must have been on the HDD without your knowledge. I’m more familiar with Linux grub, but there must be something similar for Windows, so you might be able to boot off of a USB stick and then install only the boot loader on the SSD. Or, just reinstall Windows.

      1. Hammercorps

        That seems likely. Didn’t know about the partition.

        I’ll have to pick my Windows copy up from home next time I’m there.

    3. Nephilium

      If you haven’t done a reinstall yet, I’d say to check the BIOS, and you could also try doing a rebuild of the boot partition.

  18. straffinrun

    A room full of 8 year old girls rehearsing for their electone recital. This is not a recommended hangover cure.

    1. Spudalicious

      You poor bastard. I’m so thankful that all my kids were male.

    2. LJW

      McChicken and a large Coke, prevents a hangover. Discovered that in college. I rarely eat McDonalds but if I’m hammered beyond belief I make an effort to get it before passing out.

      1. Akira

        I think eating and rehydrating before you go to bed is the most important thing for hangover prevention (other than not getting that drunk in the first place, but who wants to live like that??).

        1. Rhywun

          Failing that, pop an Advil™ before sleep. It usually works for me.

    3. Jarflax

      Have a hair of the dog, and share with the girls. They will briefly get louder, but should quiet down soon, and best of all, you will never have to worry about them being allowed near you again.

      1. straffinrun

        I’m sitting between two mothers. Not a chance I’m clicking that.

        1. Jarflax

          MILFS or not?

          1. straffinrun

            Maybe if I were still drunk.

        2. Rebel Scum

          I’m sitting between two mothers.

          Go on…

        3. Jarflax

          Click this one, I dare you

        4. Spudalicious

          Doable?

          1. Rhywun

            Ah… that was one of a half-dozen or so 45s that for some reason filtered down to me from older family members for some reason by the early 80s.

    4. Nephilium

      I’ve found good genetics to be the best hangover cure. I’ve had a total of one painful hangover in my life.

      1. Spudalicious

        You’re a dick.

        1. straffinrun

          How can you not feel bad after a night of excessive drinking? I get that you may not have a headache, but that isn’t all a hangover is.

          1. Nephilium

            I wake up, and I’m fine. No dry mouth, no aching, no headache, no soreness, nothing.

          2. straffinrun

            Now I understand. You don’t pass out and get ass raped by homeless men.

          3. Nephilium

            Not that I’ve ever remembered.

          4. Spudalicious

            Like I said. He’s a dick.

      2. Jarflax

        How old are you?

        1. Nephilium

          41. Turning 42 in a couple of weeks. My ancestry is Irish, Scotch, Swiss, German, and Easter European.

      3. “The fact that about 25% of heavy drinkers claim that they have never had a hangover is also an indication that genetic variation plays a role in individual differences of hangover severity.”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangover#Person-related_factors

        Not having hangovers is also a major risk factor for alcoholism.

        1. Spudalicious

          So what you’re saying is the Neph is a raging alki?(this is known as “projection”)

          1. Nephilium

            What are you saying?

            /pours another glass of bourbon.

          2. Spudalicious

            *slams his whiskey*

            I’m shayin’ youse a drrrunkkk.

          3. Nephilium

            /Sets up two glasses

            /Fills them with bourbon

            Slainte you miserable bastard!

          4. Spudalicious

            *inserts authentic frontier gibberish*

        2. Akira

          In my teenage drinking years, I would get raging drunk and black out, then wake up the next morning with no hangover whatsoever. That superpower faded in my early 20s for some reason.

          1. Spudalicious

            Ah, yes. The power of youth. How I miss it.

          2. I had two or three life-altering hangovers in my earliest drinking days, then twenty-five to thirty years of invincibility (Drink till three up at six fresh as a daisy), lately I’m starting to pay for my overindulgences, mildly for now, but the penalties keep getting slightly worse. I’m going to guess Neph is about three to five years away from the end of his free ride. hope he enjoys it while it lasts.

          3. Jarflax

            I have a friend who used to brag that he never got hangovers; he is going on the liver transplant list as we speak (assuming he passes whatever screening they do).

    5. Raphael

      Ouch, good luck surviving it dude. At least I only had a graduation ceremony to attend today.

  19. Rebel Scum

    This is one of those rare times when I agree with Piers Morgan, particularly because the absurdity of something.

    I have only limited exposure to Piers, but he seems to be relatively reasonable and sane when he is not talking about guns.

    1. “he seems to be relatively reasonable and sane when he is not talking about guns”

      Agreed. He definitely has firearm derangement syndrome though.

      1. Jarflax

        He’s English, they have all been intensely brainwashed about the evils of guns.

        1. Rhywun

          He’s an Arsenal fan. He should be burned at the stake.

  20. creech

    Let’s get this straight. Free day care, then free pre-school, then free K-12, then free college. Some proggies also throw in a year of national service. So let’s just make children wards of the state until they are 25 years old. At which time, they are made slaves so they can work to provide for the next 0-25 year olds that are coming along. I’d rather take the alternative where the human race ends in 12 years due to climate change.

    1. Jarflax

      I’m going back to praying for the SMOD

      1. Raphael

        SMOD or Cthulhu 2020, now that’s an election cycle I’m dying to see.

        1. Nephilium

          Alpha children wear grey They work much harder than we do, because they’re so frightfully clever. I’m really awfully glad I’m a Beta, because I don’t work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don’t want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They’re too stupid to be able…

          I’m glad I’m not an Alpha.

          /BNW

  21. commodious spittoon

    So Blondie disappears over the horizon, a hundred thousand dollars in gold slung over his horse. But then what? Is it coined as Confederate money? Everyone seems to think so. And the hotel keeper complains midway through the movie that the Confederates can only pay with paper, which seems to suggest Confederate specie dried up, likely as a result of the missing shipment. (Which, and I hate to poke holes in this, just about my favorite movie of all time, but the chances of Tuco and Blondie happening upon that CSA carriage… come on, be real.)

    Anyway, would nobody question why a mint’s worth of gold coin suddenly appears, stamped in Confederate style, carried by some lone vaquero? It seems like there’d be a lot of questions about it, especially with the war wrapping up. It seems like inevitably the Confederate bureaucracy would complain about all this missing gold, dots would be connected, and hey, wouldn’t you know it, there’s this guy who’s passing off all these Confederate sovereigns for his booze and whore tabs.

    1. Jarflax

      Gold melts

      1. commodious spittoon

        LET ME FINISH.

        /Cheryl Tunt

    2. commodious spittoon

      So does he melt it down? That raises a bunch of questions, doesn’t it? Where’d you get all these irregular ingots? That’s pretty damned suspicious. Sounds like a thief to me.

      1. He recast it as Eiffel Tower souvenirs.

        1. Homple

          The Lavender Hill Mob. Just to let you know I appreciated that.

      2. Jarflax

        In the 1860s in the West, 15 years after the Gold Rush? I think the questions would be more “where’s his claim” and less “must have robbed the CSA.”

        1. commodious spittoon

          But government means bureaucracy. Gold wouldn’t just disappear, it would go missing. Somebody would have receipts. There’d be many people very interested in what happened to two hundred thousand dollars in Confederate gold that just vanished into the desert. I can’t imagine this huge shipment of specie just disappears, and nobody follows up.

          1. Jarflax

            You talking about a Government that was weeks away from no longer existing. Everything was about to just disappear, Carpetbaggers were a real thing; the South got looted to the bare walls. Also, say they follow up, the trail leads out into the desert to an ambush and a bunch of dead people. Sure they’d guess it was stolen, maybe even get lucky and link it to Blondie, how are they going to establish their ownership of some random bullion he has? It was a far less bureaucratic time, you could for example, actually carry cash with no risk of the Government being able to seize it as contraband.

          2. Winston

            Carpetbaggers were a real thing; the South got looted to the bare walls.

            Not very woke…

          3. Jarflax

            I am not.

          4. commodious spittoon

            Exactly, that’s the movie I want to see. The feds suing territories to enjoin Blondie and his wildcat bankers, and all the ensuing court proceedings establishing the provenance and ownership of his gold.

          5. Jarflax

            You’ve seen that movie. It is the rest of the trilogy with him in Mexico 🙂

          6. Tejicano

            The gold was already stolen and buried. IIRC the secret about its location was passed from a dying guy in a POW camp. So the trail of the stolen gold was supposedly cold already.

    3. Spudalicious

      You guys are trying to rationalize a spaghetti western…

      Yep, it’s Saturday night on the Glibs.

      1. Jarflax

        Hey, it is the best kind of argument. We can go back and forth, even get some heat in, but there are no stakes at all so no one is going to end up permanently alienated.

    4. Gustave Lytton

      Thanks for pointing out the plot hole of every movie with bearer bonds.

      1. Spudalicious

        Thank you for ruining “Beverley Hills Cop”.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          And Die Hard!

      2. Jarflax

        And yet people do in fact steal large amounts of money, and even get away with it sometimes.

      3. What hole? the thieves simply find a fence/dealer who will give them 30cents on the dollar. Problem solved. Oh, and before you ask how does the fence/dealer cash in, they are international.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Exactly, like my girlfriend, that’s why you never met her, she’s international.

    5. CPRM

      He was dead the whole time, did you not even watch High Plains Drifter and Pale Rider? Money meant nothing to him.

      1. Spudalicious

        Ah, I had forgotten about Pale Rider.

        I will say that I think Unforgiven is pretty much the best western Clint ever did.

        1. CPRM

          Unforgiven has the best character arc, but as far as over all best I’d stay with Pale Rider.

          1. Jarflax

            Pale Rider is Shane with Hebephilia. It is not better than Shane.

          2. Winston

            Fun Fact: Alan Ladd’s son gave us Star Wars

          3. CPRM

            I don’t remember Shane being the angel of death.

          4. Jarflax

            Shane was more subtle about the subtext than Pale Rider.

          5. Winston

            How dare you malign one of the writers of Turner and Hooch!

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Shryack

          6. R C Dean

            Nope. Outlaw Josie Wales. If you disagree, you are just wrong.

    6. Winston

      Well smart guy explain to me how those Busby Berkeley musicals can be performed on an actual stage?

    7. Winston

      And who killed the chauffeur in The Big Sleep?

  22. ChipsnSalsa

    Contra Krugman podacast covered it but I have to admit Winston’s mom does it way better (phrasing!)

  23. robc

    Question for someone who knows more about POTS than me: would the system require an entire rebuild to prevent number spoofing?

    That is my assumption as to why it continues.

    1. CPRM

      A POT in radio is the switch that turns the volume up, no idea what you’re prattling about.

      1. robc

        Plain old telephone system.

      2. Jarflax

        OMWC would smack you! Pot = Potentiometer.

        1. CPRM

          commonly used to control electrical devices such as volume controls on audio equipment.

          That’s what I said.

          1. Jarflax

            It does so much more. Equalization, effects, etc.

    2. robc

      Starting in mid-2017, and with intended culmination in 2019, the FCC pushed forward Caller ID certification implemented via a methodology of SHAKEN/STIR.[33][34] SHAKEN/STIR are acronyms for Signature-based Handling of Asserted Information Using toKENs (SHAKEN) and the Secure Telephone Identity Revisited (STIR) standards.

      1. robc

        So not an entire rewrite, but looks like slow adoption by phone companies.

        1. AlmightyJB

          It cost money and most people buy service based on cheapest price so not a lot incentive for companies to spend more.

        2. Nephilium

          And compare it to e-mail, which was originally built with no security or identity checking at all. The old phone systems are all older than that.

    3. Nephilium

      Yes. Yes it would. And it’s not going to get better as people move over to VOIP.

      1. robc

        I am guessing the shaken/stir shit isn’t really gonna help?

        1. Nephilium

          Probably not. Almost all VOIP systems will let you set whatever outbound ANI you want. I’ve run into issues already with companies that don’t understand the difference between a 10 and 11 digit toll free number (TFN). Their calls were getting flagged as spam because they were sending the 1 in front of their number….

        2. Gustave Lytton

          Only applies to SIP signaled calls apparently.

          The bigger problem is the assumed trust on the carrier side of the telephone network. A large portion of the voice network is still ran on equipment that has been MD’d so it’s stuck unless it gets replaced (multibillions of $ and time to get something that’s essentially the same).

  24. CPRM

    Great day hanging with nieces and nephews, spent too much on the munchkins. But those days always have that bittersweet end when I return to my empty house and beer is my only friend.

    1. Spudalicious

      You got to hang out with the nieces and nephews, spoil them, and then go back to the peace and quiet of your own home. Focus on how much fun you had with them today.

      1. CPRM

        I was so focused I watched Christopher Robbin while I started drinking, I don’t want to grow up, I’m a Toys’r’us kid.

        1. Raphael

          RIP Toys’r’us. Glad you had a good time with the nieces and nephews. I miss those little leg-biters back home.

    2. Nephilium

      One of the proudest moment I’ve had was one my eldest nephew realized that I spent a lot of money on him when we were out together for his birthday. It was Free Comic Book Day, and the tradition will continue until he and his younger brother decide they don’t want to do it.

  25. Don Escaped Texas

    1/ does anyone else get timestamps in Eyepiece ?

    b/ is Lachowsky MIA ?

    1. Spudalicious

      Lachowsky made the mistake of becoming a Union rep and negotiating a contract. And he’s involved in integrating a drug testing policy into the contract, which from my experience, is a recipe for fail.

  26. Winston

    Nick Gillespie asks:

    https://reason.com/archives/2019/03/09/everyone-agrees-government-is

    When libertarians dole out blame for the growth of government, perhaps we should take a look in the mirror. Is it possible that our arguments—correct and widely accepted though they are—about government inefficiency, ineffectiveness, and incompetence have had the unintended consequence of fueling government’s growth?

    Time to join Niskanen?

    That means more work is needed putting together serious, detailed policy plans that give more autonomy to individuals and communities; highlighting examples of markets and voluntary organizations succeeding in building trust, self-regulation, and common purpose; and appealing to a broad, positive vision of a strictly limited government whose goals revolve around ensuring basic fairness, equality of opportunity, continued economic growth, and rising living standards.

    You know who else had serious detailed policy plans?

    1. Jarflax

      Since when are our arguments widely accepted?

      1. Winston

        All those leftists and Niskanites who think the big problem with the Republicans for the past 80 years is that they are too libertarian?

    2. AlmightyJB

      No one trying to get elected.

      1. Winston

        Not sure those cocktail parties will convince the Deep Staters to become libertarians either.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Nope. The government isn’t going to voluntarily make itself smaller.

          1. Winston

            That is the big problem with Reason and Cato, right? For the last few decades their strategy is trying to convince the Deep State to see the error of their ways and become more libertarian.

            Even Niskanen is like this but with more “pragmatic” statist goals.

          2. AlmightyJB

            I think there has been a lot of emphasis on state and local politics as well. We have seen some headway with school choice and pot legalization at that level although certainly just baby steps. It’s tough because libertarians don’t like government so they don’t get into government, and when they do they’re not willing to go incrementally which means they’re going to lose. We had a libertarian running for governer years back who wanted to cut state spending by 40%. Hell I’d like to cut it by more than that but your just going to be taken seriously with that proposal. Start with 10% and go from there. We didn’t get here over night and we’re not going to fix it overnight.

          3. Akira

            That’s one of my pet peeves as well – the idea that a candidate must be 110% libertarian or else be regarded as a horrid statist.

            I’m sorry, but Murray Rothbard’s ghost is not going to win the presidential election and wipe away 99% of the federal register. I would love to see that as much as anyone else, but it’s just not possible.

            “Progressives” are so successful because they take what they can get right now and come back for the rest later. Libertarians need to learn how to do the same thing.

          4. Winston

            The issue is that progs want to grow government so incrementally growing it is much easier than incrementally cutting it. Even smaller spending increases is still more spending.

            The other issue is that “Big Government is Bad but politically inexpedient to do anything about it” has been the Republican MO since Eisenhower’s time and the results have not been good. How to prevent pragmatism from ending up like that is difficult.

            And for pot well in Canada that comes with carbon taxes and new gun laws and bids to make weaken juries so…

          5. Winston

            It’s tough because libertarians don’t like government so they don’t get into government, and when they do they’re not willing to go incrementally which means they’re going to lose.

            There is also the issue that getting politicians who want to reduce their power is not easy. And why not make government work?

          6. Winston

            There is also the fact that pragmatism is what killed classical liberalism. What is wrong with the State after all? Why can’t we make it work? What about the poor? We forget that the Democrats quite willingly gave up on Classical Liberalism.

            And this is the attitude is what lead to the public school system beloved by libertarians. The schools were supposed to teach teh Yutes (especially immigrants and Catholics) to be proper (classical) liberals. Turns out that the government indoctrinating kids on their attitudes toward government ended being pro-government.

    3. Don Escaped Texas

      serious, detailed policy plans that give more autonomy to individuals

      “Go do what you want, but don’t hurt anyone and don’t steal people’s shit.”

      * claps dust off hands *

  27. RE: Westerns

    Everyone’s on a Clint kick tonight but I’ll say it – pound for pound Jimmy Stewart was the best western hero actor of all time, and don’t give me that weak John Wayne shit, hell Henry Fonda has the duke beat. That said, as KSuelignton mentioned in the last thread Once Upon a Time in the West is the greatest western ever, so Henry as the only ‘classic western actor’ in that one has a bit of a leg up, so to speak.

    1. Winston

      I’m sorry but the right answer is either Harry Carrey or William S. Hart.

      1. Winston

        I’m still waiting for this talkie craze to die out. /Yells at Cloud

        1. Jarflax

          You whippersnapper! The correct answer is Bill Cody! These movin’ pitchers are just a fad!

      2. Tulip

        Winston, you are a good sport. Respect.

    2. CPRM

      Oh, Silverado is the best western ever made. John and Lawrence Kasdan given free reign to make whatever they wanted after Lawrence had written Empire Strikes Back and Raiders of the Lost Ark, so they made their dream western, and it’s perfect.

      1. Yeah, no.

        A. Kevin Costner is in that.
        B. Woody Strode is not
        C. Cinematography
        D. “You brought two too many.” is a better line than “You’re wearing my hat.”
        E. Everything else is better in the Leone film

          1. SIgh, a boring pan into some quick-cut action sequences complete with a god awful rifle flip shot (jesus there’s a ‘whoosh-whoosh’ sound effect) ending with a mountain panoramic, yawn. especially since this was like what 87. have you even seen the opening to OUATITW? there are wide shots, close-ups, dynamic pans, action in the fore and background, humor, suspense, humour (for the Canadians) and tension. It’s not just a scene to set a tone or an excuse to throw some title credits on the screen, it tells a story, in seven minutes without a bit of dialogue you know those characters you are immersed in their world, that slop you posted – may as well be the title sequence to a bad Magnum PI spin-off.

          2. CPRM

            Actually, on a technical level, everything done in that take is very impressive; but I won’t let that impede on your perceived self expertise. (although, if I know you, which I won’t pretend to, you were actually agreeing with me)

          3. Jarflax

            +1 point for starting with actually
            +1 point for playing the cinema expert card with the ‘technical level thing’
            +2 points for a little passive aggression with ‘perceived self expertise but
            -1 for the redundancy of your perceived self expertise

            I grade this post 3 hipsters and award you a PBR.

          4. CPRM

            SO actually, being trained in what I’m talking about grants hipster points, I would think that would be opposite.

          5. Jarflax

            Appealing to the fact of such training as a support for your position does, because that is a fallacy. If you had instead explained what is supposed to be so technically impressive it would have been an argument but instead it was “Don’t dispute me I am an expert”

          6. CPRM

            If I spent the time to explain all the technical achievements in that one scene, I could be a awarded a doctoral degree. I’m happy to share my knowledge, but I am by no means bound to do so. Fuck off Slaver.

          7. Jarflax

            and 2 more points for ‘refusing to enact my labor’ in actually providing the support for your argument.

          8. CPRM

            Meh, I was ready to, but your comeback was weak. No repects given.

          9. CPRM

            But damn, just pulling off that f stop switch in a clean fashion when the door opens and the camera moves outside…

          10. John Ford was doing that shit fifty years earlier without any motorized servos.

            Is ‘motorized servos’ redundant?

          11. CPRM

            Yes Hyp, a servo is a motor.

          12. CPRM

            And I think Hyp is looking for ‘Motion Control’, which wouldn’t have been used for Silverado, as motion control cameras are used to record several passes with the same exact motion so the shots can be composited together. Which would not have been a technique needed for Silverado.

          13. dorvinion

            That opening won points by not having a magical, twenty shot revolver.

            Normally it seems guns only run out of ammo when its convenient for the plot.

          14. CPRM

            Like I said, the Kasdan brothers were western geeks given the keys to the kingdom. Nerds who had all the arguments about what was actually wrong with westerns and made a masterpiece.

          15. dorvinion

            Never seen Silverado before but I’m gonna give it a watch if I can find it.

            I’m always in the mood for westerns.

          16. CPRM

            It’s the best!

          17. CPRM

            I mean, they even took on public accommodations law.

          18. It’s a very good movie for a modern action western with whoosh-whoosh sounds when rifles summersault through the air, and that rely on clever banter and at times almost slapstick action sequences. but the best western is Once Upon a Time in the West.

          19. CPRM

            Now I know you’re just fucking with me. No one has watched all of Once Upon a Time in The West. It’s like trying to achieve light speed, you ca get close, but can’t ever get there.

        1. CPRM

          D. “You brought two too many.” is a better line than “You’re wearing my hat.” This is after the scene where he gets his horse back.

        2. Don Escaped Texas

          I often will rank a movie by noting that it could not have been any worse even if Kevin Costner were in it. Sometimes Nicholas Cage.

          1. CPRM

            In a frees country, you are allowed to make such stupid decisions, and I cannot used the force of law to persuade you, but I can us youtube.

  28. CPRM

    Let’s go to Hickenlooper Texas, with Waylon Willie and the boys…

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      NewWife was watching some documentary on her beloved Clash and I swear the great Waylon was in some scene (presser-looking set) beside Mick Jones.

      We are very different people, but the world is more clear to her since I took her to see Billy Joe Shaver.

      1. Chafed

        My wife made me go see Billy Joe Shaver with her. I still haven’t forgiven her.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      I raise you a The Highwaymen version.

      (though I’m partial to the album version with just Waylon and Willie on the vocals)

    3. CPRM

      Once again, I told the joke too well…

      1. CPRM

        The joke was Hickenlooper, the song was the punchline…

        1. but Hickenlooper doesn’t jibe with Luckenbach, wrong syllables, doesn’t rhyme, Still not great but you could have gone with
          Let’s all go down to Hickenlooperr. at least it matches the cadence.

          1. CPRM

            The joke worked because no one noticed, I’m going with that.

    1. CPRM

      IT’s music like that has weary of moving up in my business, WTF is wrong you? I don’t want to have to listen to shit like that, and I’d be getting paid. But you do it voluntarily? I don’t get people.

      1. Jarflax

        But it’s a deep, moving song about bettering yourself through wise choices!

        1. CPRM

          You know what else is deep and moving? My bowels. Doesn’t mean anyone should listen to it.

  29. l0b0t

    Hell’s Bells! I just spent 15 minutes trying to explain to my colleagues how the time change works and why they will not be missing an hour’s remuneration in their pay packets. We have the same conversation every time. I HATE Daylight Saving Time.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      But but but they get off an hour later!

      1. Only a white man would think he can cut the bottom off a blanket sew it on top and have a longer blanket- Old Indian saying

    2. dorvinion

      I love it

      Tomorrow evening, the sun will magically set at 7:12 PM instead of 6:12 PM as it did today.

      Come mid-summer, the sun will set at 8:50 PM instead of 7:50PM.

      Even more goodness is that come mid-summer, the sun will not be rising at the unholy time of 4:40AM but a more reasonable 5:40AM.

      1. Rhywun

        I would be fine with DST all year, TBH. I have no use for light that early in the morning.

        1. dorvinion

          There is a good reason to return to so called ‘standard time’ for Nov-Feb

          In a lot of places, if we stayed on DST, sunrise would be between 8:15AM and 9AM (for me locally it would be 8:41AM)

          Not exactly ideal for kids and bus-stops.

          Of course on the other end of the day sunset then tends to be when many adults start their drive home.

          1. Rhywun

            Oh, I admit I’m being perfectly selfish here. I don’t have kids. And I’m half asleep until noon on the best of days so it might as well be dark for all I care.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            My HS bus came before sunrise during the winter when I was a kid. The buses in my current neighborhood also run before sunrise and kids get picked up/dropped off at their driveway, even if it’s just the next house down. No one walks to a bus stop anymore.

          3. robc

            Which is only problematic by the use of time zones instead of local time.

          4. dorvinion

            Local time (I assume you mean time based on solar noon wherever you happen to be at any given moment) seems to me like it would take all the bad things about time zones and make them worse.

            Sorta works alright when you are dealing with locals as you are only dealing with a few seconds difference.
            When you deal with anyone more than a couple hundred miles east or west of your location though it becomes a nightmare.

            There’s about a half hour difference in solar noon between Denver and Salt Lake City, both in the mountain time zone.

            “I’ll call you at 5 your time” becomes a lot more complex.

    3. CPRM

      once at the beginning of Day Lights Savings I ordered a Dominoes pizza to pick up on the way to work. They had it done an hour early and called to aslk why I had’t picked it up.

    4. Tomorrow is the worst day of the year. Just another example of utterly pointless government interference in our lives.

    1. CPRM

      Are you ‘flowering’? do you need to find a woman who can give you ‘the talk’?

      1. If “the talk” = “blow job” then yes.

        1. Jarflax

          Ok, here she is.

        2. CPRM

          Gives the blessing of the cross and moves on before Q disrupts the holy ceremony by advocating for an orgy.

  30. Rhywun

    So for S’n’G I poured a shot of Jägermeister. Either it goes bad after a few years or it’s worse than I remember. Not sure which.

    1. l0b0t

      Shake it with ice and cranberry juice, it’s a shot called a Red-headed Slut and is the only way I can drink that Kraut Koff Syrup (and I like Chartreuse served neat).

      1. Rhywun

        I am genuinely not sure if it’s gone bad or not 🙁
        But I’m keeping the bottle on my pitiful “bar” – a cheap shelf thing I bought at Home Depot 13 years ago – just to be on the safe side.