It Ain’t Easy Using a Japanese Dictionary

One of the many painful things about learning Japanese was learning how to use a Japanese dictionary.  It is something that students aren’t usually taught by native Japanese.  They already know how to use a Japanese dictionary and input Japanese into a PC or smartphone.  It seems not to have occurred to any of my instructors to discuss how to get an alternative character set on your PC or phone and how to look up a word in a dictionary.

Japanese learners owe a huge debt to Jim Breen at Monash University in Australia.  Way back in 1991 he started a project that became the EDICT / JMDict Dictionary File. It is a public domain multi language Japanese dictionary database.  Prior to this most electronic Japanese to English dictionaries were expensive proprietary devices designed for Japanese speakers to look up English.  Almost every dictionary application on the web and the various smartphone dictionaries use Jim Breen’s data file.  So the all dictionary programs may have better or worse usability and search logic, but nine out of ten times the definition they provide will be identical.  The exception to this is the dictionaries designed for native Japanese speakers to look up English.  That’s a topic for another day.

As an Android user the dictionary on my phone that I use all the time is called Aedict.  One of the interesting things about whatever he used to develop the application is that he als runs a web version that is identical to the phone application.  It’s available here:

https://aedict-online.eu/

So let’s suppose that you are reading some Japanese and come across the following word:

出る

What do you do if you have no idea how it is read or pronounced?  If it’s on the computer the easiest thing to do is copy the word and past it into the dictionary.  If you can’t do that you got several options each of them increasingly annoying.  First, let’s suppose you actually know the reading – in this case it is “deru”.  I can type that in romaji right into the search box.

Your second option is to actually type the word in either hiragana or katakana.  The dictionary will recognized the hiragana or katakana the same as if you used romaji.  However, your phone (or here my Windows 10 PC) will also bring up list of characters that are written with those same hiragana characters.  Take a look in the middle of the box in the second illustration.

Next, let’s suppose the character is physically written somewhere and you have no idea what it means or how to read it.  You have several options.  Below you see icons for a paintbrush or fude brush a puzzle piece and 4-1-4.

I’ll skip the puzzle piece and 4-14 approaches as those particular methods work based on the structure and shape of the character and the number of strokes and are even more complex.  Instead let’s focus on the paintbrush.  We can actually draw the character right on the phone! (Or in the example below  with my mouse – which explains why it looks so bad.)

The problem is that all of the character drawing applications for Japanese assume a basic knowledge of stroke order and number and type of stroke.  In the first example above I drew the character with the proper number and type of strokes.  You can see at the very top the very first character the application guessed is the correct kanji.  The second character may look drawn almost exactly the same, but it isn’t.

Look in the middle of the illustration – it says Strokes: 6.  This character is only drawn with 5 strokes.  In small stroke character like this it isn’t too problematic, but in significantly more complex characters adding or missing a stroke can make this particular input method daunting.  You can see there is a check box to allow the program to guess +- 2 Strokes.  Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn’t.

Below Aedict displays both the proper way to draw this character and the definition. I picked “deru” because I find this word maddening.  It usage matches up to multiple different English meanings. The definition scrolls on beyond what I have displayed here.

The application also provides other words and other readings that use the same character.  It also uses another wonderful public domain project called the Tatoeaba Project that a collection of Japanese sentences and translations in multiple languages.

And finally because I chose a verb to look up the dictionary program tells us how to inflect it to make various grammar forms like present and past tenses.   In the old days you used to have also input verbs into electronic dictionaries in what is actually called “dictionary form”, but now most dictionary programs, including this one, will “de-inflect” verbs so that you can simply input the word as you read it.  That was huge deal because certain Japanese verbs are inflected in one of five ways and it can be difficult to tell which of the five was to use to get the dictionary form.

There you go!  Simple right?  Happy Japanese learning everyone.

Comments

501 responses to “It Ain’t Easy Using a Japanese Dictionary”

  1. Spudalicious

    I’m turning Japanese,
    I’m turning Japanese,
    I really think so…

    1. Tundra

      *goes blind*

      1. MikeS

        Greatest comment and follow-up comment:

        Bradley Handicappuccino
        2 years ago

        she’s in my top 3 celebrity crush list…..just behind Scarlett Johansson and Whoopi Goldberg.

        Bradley Handicappuccino
        2 years ago

        actually, after watching the entire video, i stand corrected. she’s number 2 and Whoopi moves to the 3rd spot.

      2. Sensei

        I knew that was the video!

  2. gbob

    Totally off topic, but I need to vent.

    Woman and I were shooting darts. Gets a text from an ex who is home from Vietnam.

    Now stuck being host.

    Damn it. Just want to chill.

    1. You didn’t throw darts at the ex?

    2. Fourscore

      I got this email from my daughter in TX about an hour ago.

      “I’m sitting in the Soc Sec parking lot & I can’t move. I’m having a nervous breakdown. I’ve never felt more alone in my life & this is not good”

      Did I mention she’s 53 years old? This sort of thing has been on going for years. I think I know the problem but it didn’t start today. THis is not the way retirement is suppose to be.

      1. Rhywun

        Geez. Sorry.

      2. MikeS

        Sorry to hear that Fourscore. What do you do next?

      3. Tundra

        Ugh.

        Sorry big man. My younger sister is on that track, too.

        1. Fourscore

          These sorts of things have been going on her whole adult life, one crisis after another. Yesterday she was upbeat, had all her bills paid, credit cards zeroed.

          She thought Prince Charming # 1 was the solution. Wrong from the beginning. Now Prince Charming #2 has swept her off her feet, as of 2 months ago, I think he’s tired of the drama. I’m not smart enough to solve her problems, she wants someone to be responsible for her but that train has left the station.

          Worst case she’ll drift back here and want to live in the cabin but she wouldn’t take care of that either. Wait and see. Her kids have moved on with their own lives, fortunately.

          Her brother is 60 miles away in Austin but he doesn’t need the problems either.

      4. Spudalicious

        Sorry buddy. I feel your pain.

        1. Fourscore

          Thanks Guys. This isn’t the first crisis nor will it be the last

      5. I’m 51. I feel like your daughter pretty much most of the time.

        1. Fourscore

          Except you handle the problems well, responsibly and with dignity. My daughter had many opportunities and wouldn’t accept the responsibility. Her college career was one week (Orientation). 8 o’clock classes are rough.

        2. Fourscore

          Another email from my daughter. Crisis apparently has passed. Sounded OK. “Wait ’til tomorrow, maybe she’ll ride on again”

  3. Fourscore

    I look at the Japanese characters, shake my head and realize Japanese kids can read/write the language. Japanese kids are way smarter than me.

    1. Sensei

      I find reading and writing Chinese even more daunting. Japanese has the difficulty of multiple readings for the same, but fewer, characters.

      1. Japanese doesn’t have tone like Chinese, does it?

        1. Sensei

          It has pitch accent, but not tones that impact meaning like tonal languages like Chinese.

          1. LJW

            I can never tell if people speaking Chinese are angry or if it’s just tonal.

  4. Sensei

    All right folks, I’ve got to disappear for an hour or so. If anyone has any questions I’ll answer them when I return.

    I’ll leave you now to the wonderful commentary that makes Glibertarians the place we all love.

    1. Hyperion

      Shut up, Tulpa!

  5. Rhywun

    I’ve used CEDICT a lot for Chinese, modeled after this one. But yeah, the exercise seems even more difficult for Japanese than for Chinese, which doesn’t have the grammatical inflections or multiple readings that Japanese has.

    1. straffinrun

      The multiple readings aren’t that hard to get used to except for names. Basically, you’ll see someone’s name written and take a guess. “You’re Jack Daniels?” “No, it’s read as Jim Beam.”

      1. Caput Lupinum

        But pronounced “throat warbler mangrove”

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Anne Elk appreciates this.

  6. straffinrun

    Bah. Kids these days *wipes back of neck with hot towel oyaji style*. I learned using an actual kanji dictionary not some digital cheat. Then again, I’m a radical.

    1. Sensei

      I bought one and quickly said “no way”.

      1. straffinrun

        To be honest, I haven’t used it in almost 20 years. Find the radical and count the strokes. Really not that difficult. Same problem you have in English when you were a kid and didn’t have any idea how to spell a word. The teacher would say, “Look it up.” Uhhh.

        1. Sensei

          Where do you start with mess like 薔薇? Especially the second kanji.

          1. straffinrun

            I’d have guessed び because of the び in 微妙.

          2. straffinrun

            Also, it’d び the same by any name.

          3. Sensei

            Funny enough my browser plug in lists “shoubi” and “soubi” as possible readings.

            It’s almost like you speak Japanese…

          4. straffinrun

            Or have read Shakespeare. 😉

          5. Sensei

            But is it still as sweet?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Then again, I’m a radical.

      I hate puns. For some reason, this is the pun I hate the most, and, by extension, now – you.

      1. Tundra

        I hate puns.

        Wait – aren’t you a father?!?

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          There’s a reason I’m the cool dad.

      2. straffinrun

        Then you hate all Japanese by extension. This is the land of the rising pun.

        1. Heroic Mulatto
          1. straffinrun

            That’s like posting the Bengal’s fight song.

          2. MikeS

            ALOL!

          3. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Huh…I just ordered dao off of Amazon (budgetary reasons). Was looking at a dadao, but, decided on differently.

          4. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Well, without the “on”.

        2. Floridaman

          You are just doing this to get a rise out of him.

  7. MikeS

    I’ll admit; at first I thought there was nothing for me in this post. However, while skimming I came across this section…

    Next, let’s suppose the character is physically written somewhere and you have no idea what it means or how to read it. You have several options.

    …and had an epiphany. I collect currency, and my main area of collection is the currency of WWII. I always have trouble with the plethora of Japanese money and Japanese occupation money. I’ve tried memorizing and printing cheat-sheets of common words and phrases. And they help…but this could be a HUGE help. Thanks so much for sharing!

    *bows deeply to Sensei-san*

    1. Sensei

      どういたしまして。

      1. Caput Lupinum

        Mik ezek a holdrúnák?

        1. Sensei

          Those are the easy ones – not pictograms. ‘You’re welcome.”

          (Thank you Google Translate. Which initially translated that to Japanese as that’s how I had it set. これらの月のルーン文字は何ですか)

          1. Caput Lupinum

            Oh, I know, I’m enough of a weeb to recognize hiragana when I see it, I just enjoy poking fun. Would have been better if Mike still had his original mooninite avatar.

            Tangentially related, Hungarians used a runic script before they adopted the Latin alphabet.

  8. Hyperion

    It’s specially hard when you don’t speak any Japanese. One of my Korean friends and I were talking about Korean a few years back and he asked me it I’d like to learn it. Then he showed me some written text. And I said fuck it. Where do you start when you don’t have any common point of reference? I mean English speakers learning Latin languages, OK, at least you have the common alphabet set, but WTF is that Hieroglyphic shit?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Where do you start when you don’t have any common point of reference?

      Not to sound glib, but from the beginning.

      Also Korean is super easy to learn in that every symbol has one and only one sound and articulation.

      1. Floridaman

        “Looks at the name of the site” I thought being glib was the point.

        1. leon

          Something something GLIBTARD!

      2. Hyperion

        “Also Korean is super easy to learn”

        Sure, maybe when you have plenty of time for it. That’s the crucial element. Right now, I don’t.

        1. straffinrun

          He should’ve said that learning how to read Korean is super easy. The grammar is very similar to Japanese and a therefore a total bitch.

          1. straffinrun

            Fine. Edit privilege bullllshite.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Not my fault you all like synthetic agglutinative languages that are head-final.

          3. straffinrun

            You don’t like puns, yet you set me up like that?

          4. Heroic Mulatto

            I’m teaching you self-control.

          5. straffinrun

            It’s gradual exposure therapy and not place thicc lines in front of a one day sober addict.

          6. Caput Lupinum

            Sír magyarul.

          7. Heroic Mulatto

            Non-Earthling languages don’t count.

          8. Caput Lupinum

            Bah. You sound like one of those damned Romanians.

          9. Sensei

            That’s my understanding too!

      3. grrizzly

        Ha, banana was one of the first words I learned to read in Hebrew.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          It’s always fruits.

          The first word I deciphered in Thai was “lemon”.

          1. Fourscore

            “How much” was the first thing I learned in Vietnamese

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            *winks*

            ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

          3. straffinrun

            Did you make a lot of money?

          4. MikeS

            Five dolla!

          5. Fourscore

            Nah, I was more of a renter

          6. chipping pioneer

            Five dolla love you long time!

          7. Fourscore

            rove you rong time. Fi dolla short time

          8. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            These boots are made for walkin’

    2. commodious spittoon

      The thing about English is everyone already speaks it. You just have to say it slower and louder if they don’t understand.

      1. Hyperion

        There’s plenty of native born Americans who still don’t speak it, at least not very well.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        That got a chuckle.

      3. Chafed

        Thread winner.

    3. Rhywun

      IIRC Korean is mostly “spelled” and therefore easier to learn to read than Chinese or Japanese.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        It’s one of the most perfect writing systems. Each grapheme maps to a distinct phonological feature.

        1. commodious spittoon

          I think if I pick up another language besides half-assed English and whole-assed German, it’s going to be Russian. I’ve been reading about how Russian literature boasts the most beautifully composed form of the novel… and that Russian chicks are super easy.

          1. commodious spittoon

            This was supposed to be its own comment but I am even worse at posting than I am at German.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            You could definitely do worse than Russian.

            You could be the next this guy.

          3. commodious spittoon

            I’m a simple collective farmer

            Did he throw Bernie out?

          4. commodious spittoon

            Wait… am I the adventurous Englishman (?) who tracked down this wily Chernoblyn, or am I the shaky half-invalid he found?

          5. commodious spittoon

            Good lord, he shakes like grandad did with Parkinson’s.

            Please please please let it be radiation. Grandad did yield tests for the labs at Los Alamos. Please let the palsy be radiation.

          6. commodious spittoon

            This guy is definitely suffering Parkinson’s. Jesus, he’s a dead ringer for grandad. (Who, during glasnost or whatever, did some observational field tests in Russia in the 80s.)

            I shake a lot, but it’s because I drink a whole lot. Maybe that’s his problem, too. But it looks like Parkinson’s. Which isn’t what I have, I just drink a lot.

        2. Sensei

          Every linguist seems to love Korean writing.

          It was designed by Top Men.

        3. leon

          Apparently It’s Ok to be white is trending on Twitter…. I’m not really wanting to dig into why.

    4. Gustave Lytton

      With Japanese, you have hiragana and katakana to ease into kanji. With Mandarin, you have pinyin to sort of ease into the words and sounds, but just have to start plodding with hanzi.

  9. grrizzly

    I have a Chinese dictionary for beginners, a paper one. They start with the radical index and then proceed with the character index that has the characters in pinyin (romanization). Then you can look up a word in pinyin in the main body of the dictionary where they are sorted according to the Latin alphabet

    1. Hyperion

      I have a son-in-law who is fluent in 5-6 different languages, including Mandarin. I think he’s just pretty gifted at it, but he’s also wealthy enough that he sends me pictures on my cell phone from different points around the globe, at least 6 months of the year. So, there’s that, if you have time and don’t really have to work for a living any longer, taking up most of your time… The other thing is age. My little granddaughter just turned 3 and her mastery of English, German, and Portuguese without ever getting it mixed up is sort of astonishing. I guess when you’re that young and your head is not full yet of mostly useless nonsense, that’s a huge advantage. Barely speaking a 2nd language close to fluency seems a huge effort to me.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        It is more effort when you are older. The jury is still out whether or not that’s due to there being some neurolinguistic critical period for language acquisition or if it is just a symptom of the fact that all general learning processes are less efficient as we age.

        1. Hyperion

          I still tend to think of it as we have limited storage capacity and well into our modern day careers our storage space is near capacity. I’d love to see that expanded, I’m still curious and full of ambition for learning, but unfortunately, it seems to be limited.

          1. Fourscore

            The storage space is full of all those memories from when we were kids.

          2. Hyperion

            We maybe tend to preserve the memories we are most fond of. I still can pretty clearly recall certain memories from when I was 4 years old. Nothing I can recall before then.

          3. Fourscore

            A couple weeks ago I had a dream and in my dream was this kid, sort of a friend. He took me to his house, near the junior high, when we were about 14, 8-9th grade. Anyway, I thought I remembered his first name (Ronnie) but I couldn’t remember his last name, I puzzled over that for days. Finally it hit me, his last name was Moore.

            Ronnie and I weren’t close friends, I hadn’t thought of him for close to 70 years.

            There were certain things I remembered about the house, I think we had a sandwich for lunch. That’s why the storage space is filled with extraneous
            junk that should be deleted.

          4. Hyperion

            I’ve had this conversation recently with co-workers, most of whom are close to the same age as me, senior software engineers, analysts, and directors. My long term memory is extremely sharp. If a client brings up an issue that we’ve touched on before, I can remember it instantly, doesn’t matter if it was a year ago, I’ll be able to rattle off every single detail about it. But I can walk into a different room today and stop and say ‘Wait, why did I come in here? What was I doing?’. And just walk right out and can’t figure why I did that to save my life.

          5. Spudalicious

            Yup. Happens all the time.

          6. mikey

            My theory is that the mind disk gets near full and when new data needs storing the new overwrites some old data. Trouble is you don’t get to decide what gets overwirtten.
            So, I can still remember when that really cute brunette stood me up in high school. But I can’t remember – will I’ve forgotten.

  10. Spudalicious

    Thanks for the article, Sensei. Putting these together can be a lot of work.

    1. MikeS

      I bet you’re impressed. You can barely put together a handful of links.

      ???

      1. Spudalicious

        I will be the first to admit that Saturday Evening Links are a total phone in.

        1. MikeS

          I’m kidding, man. They’re good.

          1. Spudalicious

            Don’t you try and butter me up.

        2. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Saturday Evening Links are a total phone in

          ::scribbles notes furiously::

          Go on…

    2. Sensei

      I’ve been meaning to rant about this for a while. It was cathartic.

  11. Hyperion

    So Woke!

    No wonder everyone hates America for being such non-woke sexist, xenophobe, homophobic monsters, it’s so much better everywhere else.

    1. MikeS

      Says the guy from Tuplastan.

      1. Spudalicious

        Is that next to Tulpastan?

        1. MikeS

          Dammit!

          1. Hyperion

            All of you Tulpae shall pay when I’m Supreme Overlord of Tulpistan. *at least someone can spell it right and obviously deserves to be Supreme Overlord*

          2. MikeS

            I thought that guy who lives in the garbage can was the Supreme Overlord.

          3. Spudalicious

            And that pretty much sums up Glibertarians.com.

    2. straffinrun

      Saudi Arabia has arrested more than 200 people for violating “public decency” – including by wearing immodest clothing – and “harassment“

      Love to hear how they define “harassment”.

    3. Rhywun

      I don’t think “the austere kingdom” needs to worry about issuing a tourist visa to me.

  12. straffinrun

    I’ll break the grammar down for you easy like. As an American, just imagine speaking Japanese like you are a total asshole. Instead of saying, “I don’t like natto” you should say, “I like natto, NOT!” Instead of saying, “I went to the soapland” say, “Went to the soapland” and point to your chest with your thumb.

  13. Playa Manhattan

    Speaking of Asians, does anyone have the score to the Cal game?

    1. straffinrun

      That joke makes me want to hear it again an hour later. For ten years straight.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Has it been 10 years? We should have an anniversary celebration.

        1. straffinrun

          Time flew by, didn’t it?

  14. OT, but, here we are.

    My wife is now at the stage of pregnancy where she’s successfully pissed off everyone around her. I just told her, and I quote, “I know what you’re doing, you’re little ‘bit’, and I’m already ahead of you, and I’m over it.” This went over as you’d expect. My four year old daughter is currently telling her something to that effect, but in a slightly different format. The induction is on the 10th. Not sure if the marriage will last that long.

    So, a thing that nobody ever talks about is that while pregnant women are waddling around complaining about how much it sucks to be pregnant, there’s a guy orbiting her picking up all the slack on top of the usual shit he does for her who is getting absolutely no recognition or assistance. But, you know, the patriarchy.

    1. Sorry, should be “your little ‘bit’”. Fury is screwing with my grammar.

    2. RAHeinlein

      Ahem – YKWIM.

    3. Tundra

      I understand the challenge, Bill, but you will have another kid in a few days. That kid may refer to you some day as his/her hero simply because it’s obvious what you do for the family.

      Good luck, brother and stay tough. Can’t wait to hear the news!

      1. If I could just find some way to get her to accidentally get high from now until then, I’d be golden. One of my aunts-in-law was telling us this story about how she was having a fight with her husband, my wife’s uncle. She said, “You know what? Maybe you could hold off and only say something critical every third time something occurs to you.” He said, “I already do.” I’d like to keep a chalkboard somewhere to record all the times I didn’t turn into an ax-wielding lunatic. My revenge is that he’s going to be in the 10 pound neighborhood when he comes out. And then, thank God, I can hand this b a Miller Lite and tell her to take it down to a 6.

      2. pistoffnick

        And then those duaghters turn 16 and realize you are not as powerful as you seem. They learn to work whatever advantage they can get. Stay strong. Bill. you are in for a wild ride.

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Can’t you just have a Premie?

      1. He’s past that. We’re in week 37, and he’s 8 and some change. Theoretically, she’s due in mid January, but the scheduled induction is the 10th because he’s huge; if he went to term he’d be over 10 pounds, and nobody’s interested in that shit. Our daughter was big, too; 8 pounds 13 ounces at week 40.

    5. Spudalicious

      Heh. My youngest kid is 28. That BS was a long time ago.

      1. Her sister was like, “You should have a third one!” We both spit-took. Eff this crap. If we have a third kid we’re gonna have to find it somewhere or something.

      2. Yusef in Space……

        hear him!

    6. Just something to think about: The women screaming about patriarchy a) can’t get laid because they are unattractive or fat or entitled or likely all three, b) can’t have kids and/or hate kids, c) too selfish to be in a relationship, d) unable to take care of themselves in the big bad world, and e) secretly want a man to take care of them financially.

      Trigglypuff is the very personification of the women I am talking about.

      So, that said, on to your situation. I have no advice or anything. You’re a good man. So is my husband.

      I don’t miss the things my husband does. Sometimes I forget to say thank you, but I notice and I remember those things. Maybe not specifics, but in my soul, there is a scale of feelings, and on that scale, the things I feel he has done for me far outweigh the things I feel I have done for him.

      So, when he needs help, I try to do as much for him as he has done for me, but I can’t. That scale in my soul is ever tilted in my favor.

      I don’t know your wife. But if she’s anything like me, she knows. She will remember, not specifics, but that you did more for her than she can ever do for you.

      1. RAHeinlein

        I wouldn’t say someone calling his wife a bitch and having a self-righteous whinefest online is a good man.

        1. You can characterize what I said as a self-righteous whinefest if that’s what you want to do, but I never called my wife a bitch and never would.

          1. RAHeinlein

            “And then, thank God, I can hand this b a Miller Lite and tell her to take it down to a 6.”

            What’s the “b”?

          2. Tundra

            Biarritz.

            Quite fancy.

          3. It’s a figure of speech. Her running joke is that she can’t wait to be sitting in front of the fire with a Miller Lite and two weeks’ worth of Jeopardy! to catch up on, which is where the Miller Lite bit comes from. I use phrases like, “this b” and “this mf’er” because I say, in actual speech, “b” and “mf’er” rather than actually swear. For good or ill I’ve grown up with patterns of speech that lean on casual profanity, but rather than change those modes of speech I just drop the profane bits. I also say “ess” rather than “shit” typically. If I wanted to call someone a bitch, I’d just call them a bitch.

          4. Tundra

            Lame.

            I like mine better.

          5. Honestly, I thought you were referring to something you’d find in a high-end bathroom. It’s a wonder I can be taken in public.

          6. I don’t remember if you’ve had kids, RAH, so p,ease don’t be offended. The final days of a pregnancy are tough on everybody. I was a little WTF too, but I remember all that kid-having stuff.

            It was miserable for everybody involved. Tempers were thin. Patience was nonexistent. Everybody was exhausted. And then the kid came and it got worse for a while.

            It’s the lack of sleep.

            But what keeps my bitching in check is the remonder that this (husband, kids) is what I wanted. And maybe some days I want something different, but this is still what I want, and I got what I wanted.

          7. RAHeinlein

            Yes, and yes it gets worse for a time.

          8. We’re both older this time around, too, and neither of us have less on our plates than we had when our daughter was on the way. It’s like two cats in a bag and has been for a while. (That’s also a figure of speech; we don’t actually have cats in bags.) It’ll be easier once he’s born because my wife won’t be an understandably stressed-out, uncomfortable, nervous wreck, and we’ll be able to tag-team the baby handling like we did with our daughter. Right now, there’s nothing I can do to make her less pregnant, and she’s not maybe her most considerate self given that she’s got an eight pound child kicking her in the lungs, so nobody’s being their best selves.

          9. We got around the worst by inducing at 39 weeks. Of course, that was after 3 weeks of the OB yanking us around about various issues that all stemmed from a frazzled ultrasound tech doing a shoddy job and flagging a perfectly healthy baby as growth restricted.

          10. Bill, serious here, now. Call the OB tomorrow. Arrange for an induction/C-section ASAP. Fuck the 10th.

          11. We’re inducing at like the very edge of 38 to 39. Initially it was going to be a c-section, but Triceratops (that’s his sister’s name for him) turned the right way at the last minute and the placenta moved, so thank God, no surgery. But, because of advanced maternal age (not my words, and also, what is this, Bolivia?) and the fact that he’s a bowling ball, everyone involved is on board with a scheduled eviction. The great part is that the hospital is literally a ten minute drive from the house, so the logistics are easy, and we’ve got family who can take our daughter while we’re in the hospital for the stay.

          12. @Mo: Earliest we can get is the 10th. 6th was going to be if it was a c-section, but the docs who sign off won’t do it earlier than the 10th.

          13. Playa Manhattan

            Second birth is faster than the first. Don’t assume that you have 12 hours to get to the hospital.

          14. We’re almost cocky about this one. Like we’re going to the hospital to pick up a pizza. That’s said, we’ve got everything set up at home, a baby seat in the car, and a suitcase packed. But again, we’re talking about a ten minute drive at worst, so that’s lucky.

          15. Second birth is faster than the first.

            *remembers 2nd child’s birth*

            *gives Playa the side eye*

          16. Your Milage May Vary.

        2. straffinrun

          I wouldn’t make a judgment based on such limited information about a man. People be complex.

          1. Meh, I’m common as muck. Then again, I don’t lose much sleep over what dead hippy sci-fi authors think of me. 🙂

          2. straffinrun

            Men like to vent, too. Guarantee that my wife whinges about me to her friends. If she were doing it maliciously, I’d be angry. It’s not and I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that malice was absent.

      2. There’s also a family culture thing. In my family, the idea that you’d ask someone else to do something for you is almost shameful. It never occurred to me to ask someone to get me a glass of ice water, for instance, in my own home. I know damn good and well where all three of those things are and there’s no reason for me to impose on someone to do something I’m perfectly capable of doing myself. In her family, it’s almost the opposite. Everyone in the family does stuff together and for each other even to the exclusion of other things they could be doing on their own I think because it’s like some sort of demonstration of familial love. To me it’s as if there was some tribe in the Amazon that punched each other in the face to say “I love you.”

        1. I forgot to address this:

          In her family, it’s almost the opposite. Everyone in the family does stuff together and for each other even to the exclusion of other things they could be doing on their own I think because it’s like some sort of demonstration of familial love.

          That’s how it works in my family. “Hey, honey, since you’re up, can you get me a drink?”

          Totally normal.

          1. If they’re already up and not a serious inconvenience…

      3. Tundra

        Holy shit, Mo.

        That’s some good stuff there.

      4. Also, and I should’ve said this sooner, that was really kind of you to say and I really do appreciate that.

        I’m really not saying this stuff for applause, I’m just dealing with like a few months of walking on eggshells and short fuses and not having any outlets. It is what it is, and I wouldn’t trade what I’ve got for anything, but sometimes I could really use a vacation.

        1. Yes, and in the shadow of yesterday’s conversation about what’s appropriate to say about one’s spouse online came with some contradictory feelings for me:

          1st hand: Rude, classless, and totally disrespectful.

          2nd hand: Glibs is a community of friends and we act like this place is closed, it’s just us, and we’re all sitting around drinking and shooting the breeze. You (we?) have “known” each other for years and it’s just venting and smetimes you need to vent to your pals.

          1st foot: Sometimes somebody is really in trouble and that person has one or two close online communities and that is the only place that person can go for help.

          2nd foot: The previous discussion was about people WE don’t know. They’re totally fair game.

          1. I try to be careful about what I say about my wife around others . Not only here, but everywhere. I’ll slip up or vent here or there, but perception has a tendency to become reality, and I’d rather not torpedo my marriage because I couldn’t stop griping. I’ve seen other relationships go sour from exactly that.

          2. It’s generally not a good idea, no. I don’t, but this is kind of a man-cave so some things I just have to roll my eyes and go, “Dude-vent.” Or “He’s drunk.” Or “He’s drunk and venting.”

          3. Yeah, it’s more of a personal line for me than a general edict. It was really important during the rough patches when there was a pile of gripes dancing on the tip of the tongue.

          4. straffinrun

            My wife is human and she makes me irate from time to time. But under that thin and fleeting anger is two decades of sharing a life together. As you say, we’ve got a relatively closed circle here and so a little benign venting isn’t a problem. If someone were only bitching about his wife all the time, that would be another story.

          5. RAHeinlein

            Straff and Mojeaux – both correct. Thank you.

          6. straffinrun

            You sparked a discussion that probably should be had more often. It’s easy to take the wife for granted. No problems.

          7. You weren’t wrong. I just try to remember this is mostly a man-cave with a well-stocked bar.

        2. FWIW, I think about this place on the second hand and both feet, and would react accordingly. I can be judgmental all day long to strangers in the street. That’s not why I’m here.

  15. commodious spittoon

    TIL courtesy of The Fifth Column: some homes in Brooklyn or whatever won’t let you install a dishwasher, because the covenant requires a separation for kosher and non-kosher dish washing fixtures, but they still require a separate sink for non-kosher wash up.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      They have dual-compartment dishwashers. I’ve seen many in Kosher homes.

      1. commodious spittoon

        Do they still have to invite some Goy in off the street to turn off the lights?

        (Something else Moynihan has mentioned in the past.)

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Timer, or more commonly, just leave them on. Same with the oven.

          1. Sensei

            I think every oven I’ve purchased in the last two decades had “sabbath mode”.

            Who knew Ozzy came with your stove?

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Most appliances eventually develop a sabbath mode, even if it didn’t ship with it initially.

        2. JD is Unemployed

          How much can one charge for that?

      2. Sensei

        Or if wealthy enough simply two dishwashers.

        1. commodious spittoon

          One does not simply two dishwashers…

        2. The Bearded Hobbit

          My wife wanted a dishwasher. I gave her three daughters.

          /rimshot

  16. Yusef in Space……

    I need to get new numbers for my mailbox, mine are kind of faded, like me…..

  17. Gustave Lytton
    1. Spudalicious

      /pines for feudalism

      1. Yusef in Space……

        I didn’t vote for You!
        /not that I wouldn’t…

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Some Japanese cooking for you

          https://youtu.be/1GxMpJOM44w

          1. Spudalicious

            Huh. That worked just fine on mute.

          2. Playa Manhattan

            Right at your skill level

          3. Spudalicious

            I just looked at her tits.

          4. Gustave Lytton

            I have to watch each one a couple times to figure out what’s being cooked.

          5. Tundra

            Sorry… what does cooking have to do with the video?

          6. MikeS

            I know I got somethin’ cookin’.

          7. Gustave Lytton

            It’s like the modern day version of the gorilla basketball video.

    2. straffinrun

      Holy shit. Ha! Didn’t ever notice that.

  18. Yusef in Space……

    All I can say is you guys are amazing,

    1. Spudalicious

      How’s Wendy doing?

  19. Hyperion

    Even though I’m in love with a wonderful woman… I consider myself very lucky, after 40 years of complete failure in that love thing. I’d still recommend this as sound advice.

    I don’t believe in love

    1. Tundra

      What the fuck is wrong with you people?

      Love is the law!

        1. Hyperion

          Look.

          Need more evidence?

          Love Removal Machine

      1. Charles Easterly

        “a href= “https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhat-xUQ6dw”> “Hush now, don’t you cry,” Tundra.

  20. Yusef in Space……

    My heart hurts, I’m losing my Wendy, Ahhhhh….

    1. Spudalicious

      I am so sorry, Bob. Words are just not enough.

    2. Tundra

      Prayers for you all, Yusef.

      I am sorry.

    3. I am so sorry, Yusef.

    4. leon

      I’m so, so sorry Yusef.

    5. Hyperion

      Condolences, Yusef, carry on Bro, I know you can, you’re a strong one.

    6. mindyourbusiness

      Can’t give you a hug on line. I wish I could…

    7. Tejicano

      I am really sorry reading this. I wish there was something I could say or do to make it different.

    8. Fourscore

      Pardner, when I think I have problems, I remember you. So sorry to hear that. Words can not express the sadness we all feel in our hearts.

    9. Sean

      That’s too soon to lose your loved one.

      My heart breaks for your situation.

      Sorry Bob.

  21. Spudalicious

    Although we’re not getting Bloomberg commercials, I’m pretty tired of Tom Steyer’s virtue signalling.

    1. Yusef in Space……

      Steyer billboards all over Vegas, quite odd to me,

    2. Rhywun

      Yeah, he’s way worse than Bloomberg. “I’m going to save the world.” Stuff it.

    3. Hyperion

      Hey, look, if we truly went back to free markets, it might hurt muh billionaire status and elevate some you peasants, we can’t have that. Vote for me!

  22. Yusef in Space……

    My biggest fear is that if she doesn’t come home this time, she never will, I’m getting used to living alone, but I needs my Wife damnit!

    1. Spudalicious

      How is her quality of life, Yusef?

      1. Yusef in Space……

        Scared and lonely, she’s a long way from home, Bella and Kittah, she can’t relax in a hospital, but she is getting better physically,

  23. Yusef in Space……

    Wendy is doing ok, she’s in pain from the drain in he chest, and it’s hard for her to breathe, but no heart surgery needed at this time, just waiting on the stroke scene. this is going to get rough for yours truly….
    I’m tired

    1. I’m so sorry, but I’m glad to hear she’s doing OK. I’m praying for the both of you.

    2. MikeS

      But at least you are there for her.

    3. straffinrun

      She’s thinking of you, I’d bet. That’s everything.

      1. Yusef in Space……

        We are old friends, that’s certain

    4. And hey, if it needs to be said, if there’s anything I can do please don’t hesitate to ask.

    5. Caput Lupinum

      I want to see beauty. In the ugly, in the sink, in the suffering, in the daily, in all the days before I die, the moments before I sleep.

      -Ann Voskamp

      Through the pain and the suffering, she’s still here and you’re still with her. Stay strong, and if there is any weight that can be taken off of your shoulders we’re here to help.

      1. Yusef in Space……

        THIS is why I’m still going, can’t stop, against the Rules….

  24. leon

    https://twitter.com/HNTurtledove/status/1211797331164590080

    Look Its one thing to be so upset at your partisan “enemies”, but wishing that Russia was gone is kinda…. deranged.

  25. In light of yesterday’s and the above discussions about discussing SO problems, I hearken back to the late-night thread wherein I blabbed my friend’s problem with her dude who had her friend-zoned. He wanted to soend all his time with her and her kids, she wanted more, he wasn’t interested but still wanted all the benefits of insta-family and interesting BFF and couldn’t understand why she cut him off. (At the point your middle-school daughter is excitedly asking you when she’s gonna get a new daddy, it’s time to shit or get off the pot.)

    That discussion has not left my mind because the responses were basically, “If he doesn’t want to fuck her now, he never will.”

    This was distressing to me because the conflict of Cods & Cuntes is solely that he has friend-zoned her because he has a PTSD-induced aversion to brunettes. He does not want to fuck her, but he wants her company, her advice, her time, her attention, AND wants her to sleep with him (sleep only). She is his bestie, his companion at arms, his second in command.

    The “fantasy” here is that he will see the light and stop thinking of her as a male-ish bestie and see her as a desirable woman.

    So I will put it to you again in a different context: Is there any way to make you, dudes, believe that he saw the light. My husband is influenced by my extra-story explanations, so I’m not sure he’s reading impartially.

    1. Urthona

      So he’s gay?

        1. Urthona

          Classic gay dude.

          1. straffinrun

            Classic golf legend.

        2. No Redheads? I’m offended.

          1. MikeS

            I hate to agree with UCS, but yeah, me too.

          2. I over-use redheads in my books. Had to lie low on that for a while.

          3. I’ve never read any of your books. Any book can be a reader’s first.

          4. Also, there’s no such thing as too many redheads.

            😀

          5. True, however, this is an ancestor of my fanbase’s favorite male character, so I’m hearkening to his coloring. Reader has to go, “Oh, THAT’S where he gets the black hair and green eyes.”

      1. Joking aside, the only women I’ve slept next to and not at least considered having sex with were relatives. I have never wanted to snuggle with a dude, and I have male friends I would take a bullet for.

        Is the deal that if she were blonde the ptsd would not come into play? Because where the mind is concerned, all bets are off. Remove the block somehow and it’s believable that he could suddenly change his mind, I think.

        1. He has a blonde-haired, blue-eyed fetish that is working in conjunction with this. I removed the block, yes, but I’m not sure the way I did it is buyable. And I don’t even know how to begin trying to explain how I did it in fewer than 50,000 words.

          1. I mean, it could be something as simple as the reality of her replacing the archetype from his childhood, so to speak. Maybe the moment of realization provides such a flood of positive feeling that, well, stuff happens. I guess what I’m saying is that in a world where there are people who can only get it off wearing pony costumes it’s not that far-fetched that a guy could start being into brunettes.

          2. Caput Lupinum

            He has a blonde-haired, blue-eyed fetish

            Ah, so he’s a nazi fetishist? They did have impeccable fashion sense.

            Sarcasm aside, I don’t suppose something as simple as a wig would work? If it’s a visual trigger that sets off his PTSD, then a wig and a merkin, if such cunte accessories are period appropriate to your setting (though I mostly wanted an excuse to use the word merkin), would do the trick. After the festivities have commenced, have him rip off as he tries to pull her hair. Time the reveal with the height of his climax, and boom, male lizard brain now associates brunettes with orgasm. Might take a few additional ministrations by our heroine to fully alleviate the hesitancy towards raven hair, but seems plausible enough for fantasy psychology.

          3. The “Hey, close your eyes and jerk off in front of me and maybe that’ll work” … didn’t.

          4. Caput Lupinum

            Men aren’t cerebral in our lusts, in general; there isn’t a large market for male oriented romance novels while there exists a porn site for every fetish permutation imaginable for a reason. Perhaps the visual aid could fool him better than his imagination. Or maybe not, I write code not novels, I’m a touch out of my depth.

          5. You’re good. I’m getting dude opinions on what’s possible, not what’s most likely.

    2. I have trouble getting past brunette ptsd.

      1. (as in figuring out how such a thing could happen)

        1. When he was a small boy, his older brother told him tales about a beautiful black-haired witch who would come get him if he were naughty, and she would break apart into hundreds of ravens to peck his eyes out. Black hair, black dress. And his brother would taunt him with it endlessly.

          But, wait! There’s more!

          He and his best friend were pages for knights and they were out in the woods trapping and skinning rabbits. Ravens came from nowhere and beset them, but all they wanted was the meat, but it terrified him.

          That’s how.

          1. CPRM

            That makes no sense. But I’m not the romance writer.

          2. Urthona

            That sounds like my ex-girlfriend. Except they were hens she broke into.

          3. I’m not seeing it working.

          4. Maybe the way it’s described in context works better, I donno.

          5. Well, I mean, it’s always better in the context of the whole story. It looks ridiculous on paper, brunette PTSD, but I mean, somebody thought up snakes on a plane, too.

    3. CPRM

      Me personally, if I’m friends with a woman, she already has a chance. As you can guess, I’m not friends with many women. My criteria is personality/face/body. That first one has been the hurdle.

      1. Urthona

        One woman is so time demanding. Imagine having a bunch of them and then one female friend you hang out with all night talking?

        Shoot me.

        1. CPRM

          all night talking

          Why would you want that?

        2. He doesn’t TALK to any of the women he fucks.

          1. Urthona

            But he does to friend zone. Cuddles with her all night, right?

            I have a question. Is having numerous romantic partners more attractive to a woman? I’ve heard this is so.

          2. But he does to friend zone. Cuddles with her all night, right?

            Yep. Misses her when she’s mad at him or when he’s gone, loves shooting the breeze with her, takes her advice, laughs with her, jokes around with her, appreciates her presence.

            I have a question. Is having numerous romantic partners more attractive to a woman? I’ve heard this is so.

            Be more specific. Having numerous romantic partners in the past? Or he’s just a general slut and not gonna change?

            Here’s the sweet spot: He’s had a couple to maybe a gazillion women, but he meets you and you are the one and only from now on, forever and ever, amen.

          3. CPRM

            He’s gay then. Putting on heirs. There, a twist ending.

          4. Putting on heirs.

            I larfed.

          5. CPRM

            I think there might be some deep seeded problems there. Has he seen a psychiatrist?

          6. I believe it’s set during the hundred years war or something to that effect.

          7. CPRM

            So he died of scurvy, that’s a short story, not a novel.

          8. Scurvy was not a scourge of people living on land at the time.

          9. CPRM

            What food in the British cuisine was supplying the masses with vitimin C?

          10. As an aside, I went and did research into vitamin c sources and the preservation methods that destroy it, and pretty much a whole chock of vegetables provide enough to avoid scurvy unless heated to canning temperatures. If you want to keep vegetable vitamin c intact, pickling is your best bet.

            (I did this for Dug’s books, since they are at sea a lot)

          11. Most greens

            Cabbage is a good source and relatively common at the time.

            That’s just off the top of my head

          12. No, I did not mean to make a pun off of head of cabbage.

          13. But it was funny.

            Also, enlightening. Thank you!

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Have you considered the possibility that he’s simply not physically attracted to her?

      1. That’s not how romance novels work.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          I missed the part where this was about a novel.

          1. Playa Manhattan

            OK, so if this is a romance novel, have her give him a handy under the sheets while his eyes are closed. After a few times, they make eye contact during.

          2. Oh, I apologize.

            No, my friend’s dude-pal was not attracted to her but still wanted all the benefits of insta-family and her wonderful company.

            Anyway, my venting here about that led to the conclusion that “If he hasn’t fucked her by now, he’s not going to.”

            And then I got distressed because that’s my novel’s whole conflict.

          3. The nice thing about fiction is you can generally get away with one or two strains of credulity and be forgive my the reader as long as it’s entertaining and engrossing.

          4. CPRM

            PLOTHOLE!

          5. KSuellington

            I think we were just talking about real life that the dude wasn’t attracted to her physically. In a romance novel, especially when there is brunette PTSD involved, especially of the witch that turns into ravens and pick your eyes out, it could be plausible.

          6. And further! He is a soldier and is very well aware it’s a problem in his mind. He just hasn’t had a reason to try to get past it before he meets the heroine because he has always simply ignored brunettes altogether.

            So he’s TRYING to get past it, but of course the more you try not to think about pink elephants, the more you think about pink elephants.

          7. KSuellington

            Heh, heh. This sound like it is internally consistent with the story, which is the important part.

          8. That’s what I’m going for. I just don’t know if my solution is internally consistent.

            Can’t explain it in a few words, but I really wanted to know if a dude can friend-zone someone for a long time and then turn around one day and ZOING!

          9. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Can he? Yeah, I’d say so. Of course, IRL, there are days/weeks.months/years of minutia that shape things.

    5. Yeah, I don’t think he’s liable to believably change opinion.

      1. Mr. Mojeaux has yet to get that far to tell me if I did it believably or not.

    6. straffinrun

      Absolutely possible. Likely? No idea. There were many gals that I didn’t find attractive at first (sometimes even after years) that I finally thought, “On second thought, hell yeah. She’s hawt.”

      1. Thank you! Do you remember what triggered those realizations (especially after years)?

        1. I want to tease him and say it’s the general loosening of standards with age.

          1. straffinrun

            Shifting not loosening.

        2. straffinrun

          More forgiving lighting. Not kidding. Figurative and literal lighting.

          1. CPRM

            So, vision problems.

          2. straffinrun

            Abstinence makes the dick grow harder.

          3. Abstinence makes the church grow fondlers.

          4. CPRM

            Like walking around with footlong bratwurst pencil crayon in my pocket.

          5. straffinrun

            There it is. Knew I was on the right track. Is that yours? Bravo.

          6. *hangs head*

            No.

            The internet is full of smarter and cleverer and funnier people than I.

    7. Fatty Bolger

      There’s a similar subplot involving Gwenda and Wulfric in Follet’s World Without End. No PTSD of course, just a lack of physical attraction on his part at first, then a growing respect and love. Though in that they do have sex, even though he’s still in love (or thinks he is) with the pretty girl he can’t have.

      Instead of PTSD, why not have him truly believe something horrible will happen to him or her (or whoever) if he sleeps with her? Then when he finally overcomes his “superstition” it turns out to be actually real. Boom, plot twist! I hear that’s how you get books made into movies.

      1. He spends the entire book low-key scared of her (which is his problem). Then he pisses her off and she plays the raven witch for all it’s worth and his low-key fear blossoms into terror.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          But don’t most women want a man who is brave? Seems like he’d have to have something very serious to fear for her (and readers) to maintain respect for him anyway.

          1. Well, he is brave. On the battlefield, he’s fearless. War is the thing he loves most and he sees war as almost human, a woman, a woman he is in love with but can’t have. In fact, he spends the first 2/3 of the book wanting to go back to France and fight by Henry (V)’s side, but Henry needs a political ally, so he’s stuck in England.

            1) He is not really AWARE that he’s scared of her, thus, neither is the reader.

            2) He actually CAN get it up for her, but that’s when they are arguing and he doesn’t stay for the angry sex. He doesn’t make the connection and she’s not savvy enough to understand.

            3) She trips his trigger after she is out with her company of knights, they get ambushed and she engages in battle, killing one man and helping to kill another. Then to him, she becomes War and he can finally have the thing he loves most.

            That’s how I solved his selective erectile dysfunction. I don’t know if that’s good enough.

          2. Fatty Bolger

            OK, now that all sounds seriously disturbing and very interesting at the same time. Yeah, IMO that’s good enough, messed up for sure, but it definitely works. Lots of character depth and subtext there.

          3. It’s 230,000 words long. There better be some depth and subtext. LOL

            http://moriahjovan.com/talesofdunham/thebooks/black-as-knight/

          4. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Again, Mo–no offense meant here…every time I see “Black as Knight”, I immediately jump to this gem.

          5. Fatty Bolger

            Wowza! That’s a big one.

          6. LOL Diggy I love you.

          7. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            ?tee hee!?

            Back atcha, Mo!

    8. KSuellington

      Ok Mo, random story because you got me thinking of friendzoning brunettes. Years ago while living abroad I met a Brazilian girl who seemed cool and liked me. We had classes together and finally went out on a date. We enjoyed each other’s company and had some good times. Within a few days we slept together but there was something a bit off. I couldn’t quite put my mind around it. The second time we were together I kept getting this image of a childhood friend in my mind. Then I figured it out. She smelled like Mike Flynn, my best friend in the third grade. It was super weird. It wasn’t a bad smell, it was just my third grade buddy and after I made that connection there was no possible way I could do it again. The thing was I enjoyed her company a lot. I tried to make an excuse that I had a girl coming to visit me and so couldn’t get involved. She didn’t really want to accept that excuse. I tried to set her up with another buddy of mind. Didn’t work. I finally had to break it completely off with her because she didn’t just want to be friends. I really bad about it. But she smelled like my friend.

      1. OMG scents are POWERFUL. I can’t do that to my hero because he’ll never get it up.

        Similar story: Son ran out of his own soap, so husband gave him his. It’s strong soap. I took one whiff of my very clean little boy and said, “You don’t get to use daddy’s soap.” He didn’t care, but my husband’s like, WTF?

        Dude, I am not going to have my kid smelling like the dude I’m fucking.

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Dude, I am not going to have my kid smelling like the dude I’m fucking.

          On next week’s episode of MTV’s Days of Our Glibs

        2. CPRM

          That kind of story is all the rage on male dominated romance porno sites, you could be making bank. Lots of sick folks out there.

        3. KSuellington

          Yes, you have to switch soaps in that situation. There’s no arguing about it. I hadn’t smelled my childhood buddy in decades or even considered that he had a smell really. She smelled nice until I was close enough to smell the scent of playing football with my friends at ten years old and getting tackled by Mike. It wasn’t even a bad smell, just the opposite of sexual. For a romance novel it might would be better to remember a pleasant scent from the far past that invoked insatiable lust.

          1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            I’m probably not helping here, as I can’t recall the specifics. But, I do think I encountered a situation like this at some point. It’s at the periphery of my memory, but, I know it’s very disconcerting.

          2. For a romance novel it might would be better to remember a pleasant scent from the far past that invoked insatiable lust.

            OMG THAT WILL WORK BINGO!!!! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!

          3. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            As long as it isn’t haggis….

            /something exotic, maybe? Silk Road, and all that…

          4. I’ve already got a good idea but it’s gross out of context. Gross in context, too, but it didn’t have to be a GOOD smell.

          5. hayeksplosives

            I wear a peculiar oil, just a drop, on the top of my hair daily.

            (Ok, sometimes another touch of the applicator wand to the cleavage)

            It’s subtle and lovely, but unique and oft commented upon. “I like your perfume!” From chicks, and “Hmm. Your office smells nice” from dudes.

            Hint: it’s fig oil from “The Alchemist” based in Minnesota

          6. Caput Lupinum

            The heady mix of blood, viscera, and sword oil?

          7. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Alright–I’m voting for Caput Hayeks on this.

          8. Caput Lupinum

            Alright–I’m voting for Caput Hayeks on this.

            Hey, she had “cleavage” and “applicator wand”, she wins hands down.

          9. The heady mix of blood, viscera, and sword oil?

            Actually … yes. You’ve been paying attention. Excellent!

          10. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Hey, she had “cleavage” and “applicator wand”, she wins hands down.

            Hands down…hands up, or out…whatever works.

          11. Chafed

            I didn’t mean to motorboat her your honor. There was scented oil on her cleavage and the next thing I knew….

          12. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Hey–falling face-first into a lovely young lady who is well-endowed, while blowing a very long raspberry, IS an acceptable defense!

            And, a rather personal fantasy….

          13. KSuellington

            When I was a kid I remember smelling girls hair (not like Joe Biden, just catching subtle whiffs), and it was amazing. Intoxicating. When I met my wife I commented how much I liked her smell and she didn’t wear perfume. Maybe the hero caught the scent of the heroine one passing moment and forgot about it for twenty years.

          14. Oh, no, that didn’t happen. Hero abducts heroine from her wedding. It so happened that she needed to be abducted/rescued. They decide they are each other’s solutions to their problems. But he accidentally abducted the wrong bride.

          15. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Allow me to vote up KSue’s point about girls’ hair being intoxicating in many/most situations.

            Of course, wrong abduction is what it is. Just wanted to fly my own phreak flag a bit.

          16. KSuellington

            I’m already thinking about your next novel Mo. I think you seriously need to consider a Glibs crowd sourced idea. You could get some damn good suggestions here, you might say thicc plot lines. There would be some hilarious, classic, degenerate lines in it. It might get you ostracized or lionized.

          17. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            It might get you ostracized or lionized.

            Ah, yes–the lion/ostrich hybrid.

            “Ostralized”.

          18. The wrong abduction becomes a point of contention. If he’d gotten to the church a little sooner, he’d have gotten a blonde-haired-blue-eyed bride…

            …but not nearly as happy about being abducted as the brunette.

          19. @KSuellington, we actually had something rolling the other night that I am seriously turning over in my head. Let me see if I can go find it.

        4. Fatty Bolger

          Whoa. You just reminded me of when I started wearing Old Spice deodorant as a teenager, which smelled like the classic cologne. I suddenly started getting interest from an entirely different group of girls.

          1. KSuellington

            Tell us the truth, the Old Spice girls were easier, weren’t they?

          2. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            I do recall some, if not most, of the Spice girls being easy.

            I mean, not with me. But, they seemed to get around.

            Also, the more I look, the more your avatar is perfect, KS.

          3. KSuellington

            I was fond of Easy Spice.

  26. straffinrun

    Just throwing this out. Had a friend that I’d meet up for drinks every Friday night for years. He’d gush and gush about how lovely his wife was and chew me out if I said anything that was mildly critical of my wife. “That’s your wife! How can you say that!” Well, I knew his wife and she was seriously one of the kindest, sweetest ladies you could ever meet and very good looking. He waits until she’s in her late 40’s and decides to divorce her and move to Thailand to do what middle age expats do in Thailand.
    Point being that I just don’t trust dudes that don’t talk a little, harmless smack about their wives and vice versa. My parents in law always take digs at each other. 45 years happily married. IOW, if it works, who am I to complain?

    1. Playa Manhattan

      “move to Thailand to do what middle age expats do in Thailand”

      If he’s into little boys, the marriage was doomed from the beginning.

      1. straffinrun

        He’s Canadian not German. He ran a literal brothel, lost all his money (yeah, I know), moved back to Canada and became a mailman. He went from being an international banker to that. Served the guy right.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Wait, is this Festus?

          1. straffinrun

            Nope. Festus is more along my lines of thinking: Not the most polite person in the world, but not overcompensating for being a true scumbag.

          2. CPRM

            Maybe he got dark hair PTSD?

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Only jokingly threw that out because I seem to remember Festus mentioning something about working inside some Canadian Post offices or something like that. The rest of it didn’t fit, and Festus isn’t a jerk. Well, anymore than the rest of us here.

          4. straffinrun

            Tone is hard to catch online. It’s why I have Siri read yours in that female Australian accent.

          5. Gustave Lytton

            Eerie. I used the Australian accent until the South African one appeared.

          6. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            “Gotta murder a brown snake”

            /if you squint your ears

          7. Festus

            Dusty in here, I’ll be back in a se-se-second!

      2. CPRM

        If he’s into little ladyboys, the marriage was doomed from the beginning.

        Fixed it.

        1. straffinrun

          You guys always take the low hanging fruit.

          1. You expect more of us? For shame.

          2. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            An apt definition of the subject matter.

            Kudos, straff

          3. straffinrun

            I enjoy spoiling The Crying Game.

          4. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            And, you should!

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      You know. I’m standing right here.

      1. CPRM

        We couldn’t see you. The lights were out and you weren’t smiling.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I’m not Wesley Snipes!

          1. straffinrun

            True. He has better feelings towards the IRS.

  27. CPRM

    *PRESS RELEASE* Final Hat and the Hair cartoon of the DECADE gets posted tomorrow at 7pm.

    1. So no cartoons in 2020?

      /no year zero

      1. CPRM

        Is that like a leap year?

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Virtually identical, according to the calendar.

  28. hayeksplosives

    Speaking of British expats, I visited a magical store called Major Market today.

    I was just in search of fresh produce, ham hocks, and black eyed peas.

    My eye was caught by a big Union Jack up on the wall over a corner of the store. I approached and saw it was a mini Brit Expat section. I came home with Oxford marmalade (the coarse cut kind), black currant preserves, and brandy butter (yes, it’s a thing).

    I also noted with pleasure that their selection of English tea was superb, but I’m ok in that department thanks to the Internet.

    That was most certainly not my last trip to that place.

    I also was struck by the fact that I heard mixed in with the pop music playing over the store speakers the song “Hello my Name is Regret” by Matthew West.

    Great song, but not even trying to be subtle about being a Christian song. I was pleased.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Brandy butter is good. I haven’t had it in years.

      1. hayeksplosives

        I’m trying to decide whether to have it on thin crust toast or with scones.

        Been a while since I made scones.

  29. hayeksplosives

    Thanks to all who advised on the printers earlier.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      So whatja get?

      1. hayeksplosives

        Think I’m gonna get a laser for doc printing and an inkjet with photo paper tray option for color and photo needs.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          That what we did but the inkjet’s been sitting gathering dust for a long time now.

          Despite Tundra’s experience, we’ve had two Brother MFC lasers. The only reason we got another was for a duplexer. Love the double sided printing.

    2. leon

      If you didn’t hire a monastery for your printing needs you’re missing out.

      1. Caput Lupinum

        The page per minute rate isn’t the greatest, but when it comes to making copies the reproductions are immaculate.

        1. Q: Go for the immaculate conception joke or the “cats walking on your stuff since the 15th century meme?

          Not really.

          1. Caput Lupinum

            ¿Por que no los dos?

          2. “I paid how much for this book,and you left the pawprints in?”

      2. hayeksplosives

        +1 Name of the Rose

        1. Just don’t lick your finger.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Duly noted, hon.

  30. Gustave Lytton

    Cue up the Wings…

    Man on the run…

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-50952335

    1. Chafed

      Holy cow! How did he get out? Did Japan hire Jeffrey Epstein’s guards?

  31. Spudalicious

    *whistles*

    There are some serious random discussions going on tonight. Spud approves.

  32. CPRM

    Last night I went to bed at the normal person time 9:20pm, so of course that meant I was up bright and early a 3am. So this morning I animated and edited the cartoon, then I cut a tv episode for a client, and now I’m still up 11pm after 15 beers. At 36 I still don’t understand how to sleep.

    1. You are not alone.

    2. straffinrun

      Heard that. Went to sleep at 9pm, woke up at 3:30am, farted around online and back to bed at 4:30. Woke up at 9am. New Years vacay is fun.

    3. CPRM

      Anyway, this Bad Lip Reading makes more sense than any of the Disney Star Wars.

      1. Fatty Bolger

        I can’t be the only one who watched that and was thinking something other than “stick”.

    1. straffinrun

      Let’s hope HM has gone to bed. Looks good.

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        Ummm, straff…that’s a cheesecake (if memory serves from her story last night).

        I don’t think it’s equipped with an actual…. Wait–does HM like cheesecake for desert?

        1. straffinrun

          Too bad he doesn’t like puns, because a slice of buccake sounds delicious.

          1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby
          2. straffinrun

            If that’s for Jameis, someone swoops in and eats it before you can put it your mouth.

          3. straffinrun

            No Tampa fans here, eh?

          4. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            The only football jersey I own is Warren Sapp’s Buc’s jersey. But, that has more to do with the man.

          5. Chafed

            Ewww.

          6. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            High five for my bro!

        2. It is, indeed, a cheesecake (peppermint), but I am, indeed, not getting the joke.

          1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Well, recall that, up-thread, CPRM says there are a lot of sick fucks out there.

            I was merely trying to impugn HM’s considerable character by suggesting he would see the desert in a rather lustful light.

            Because, HM. And, I’m just silly.

            Also, it was straff what done brought him up in the first place!

          2. straffinrun

            True. I’ll own this one. Sorry, MJ. Cake looks ?

          3. He might need the peppermint after eating all that ass.

          4. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            THANK YOU!!!

            Mojeaux, FTW!

          5. Chafed

            BOOM! *mic drop*

          6. straffinrun

            Ever hear of how some frats haze rush candidates?

          7. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

            Oh, dear God….

          8. straffinrun

            I have no foot to stand on. This is the last cake my kid and I made. Could’ve been from an LGBT frat.

            https://imgur.com/a/7BmAiOW

          9. Straf, I mean this in the nicest possible way, but that looks like unicorn puke.

          10. This was 2 pix below yours. Had to share.

            https://m.imgur.com/gallery/FRXMtgQ

          11. straffinrun

            Tasted like it, too.

          12. straffinrun

            That’s a felching coupler.

  33. Dammit. Out of stock. And it hit almost all the key points I like in a knife.

    1. CPRM

      all the key points I like in a knife

      It cuts things…

      1. That’s one of them.

        Sure, you could field dress a deer with a pen knife, but it’d be uncomfortable.

        1. CPRM

          I guess that would depend on your comfort level.

    2. Amazon has it thought.

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        Yeah, they of everything.

        I keed, but the dao I ordered this week.

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Dammit…my snark was supposed to be, “Yeah, they think of everything”.

          I was too busy thinking about that dao.

          1. I’m trying to tell myself to go back to sleep, since it’s approaching 1am.

        2. I just ordered the cocobolo handle version of the knife.

  34. Just read this on FB about Cats. Who was the one seeing it? HM?

    Just finished watching/surviving “CATS: The Movie” with friends. I’m not even going to try and review it. Instead, I am just going to share random observations from throughout the film:

    – Audience of roughly 25 people. For “Cats,” apparently this is a packed house.

    – The first cats appear onscreen. Holy crap. I have never done acid. Is this what it feels like?

    -THIS MOVIE HAS DANCING COCKROACHES. WHY GOD? AND WHY DO THEY HAVE FACES?

    – 10 minutes in, someone down the aisle actually cried out “No, no, please stop.” I am not making that up.

    – “Rum Tum Tugger”: This is the first time I have ever seen Jason Derulo start a song without singing his own name at the start of the song. Suddenly the universe feels out of balance.

    – We are 25 minutes into this movie, and Rebel Wilson’s line of “Stop milking it” has arrived 24 minutes too late.

    – Oh, Jennifer Hudson, you deserve better than this.

    – Oh, James Corden, you don’t.

    – … aaaaaand James Corden just did a crotch-hit joke.

    – How did they talk the cast into this? Seriously, Dame Judi Dench looks pissed off and ready to fire her agent from the moment she enters.

    – Also — is Old Deuteronomy the ‘Cats” version of Buffalo Bill in “Silence of the Lambs?” Because she is wearing a fur coat. Which means she is wearing the skin of another cat. Which means … we need to put some lotion in the basket.

    – As soon as Rumpleteaser appeared, I flashed back to “Team America: World Police.” Suddenly that monologue about going backstage at “Cats” is far more disturbing.

    – Why. Is. There. So. Much. Licking?

    – Finally, 45 minutes in, the cat orgy begins.

    – This is the weirdest way to start an orgy I have ever seen. And I’ve seen “Eyes Wide Shut.”

    – Wait. Is that cat wearing pants?

    – TAYLOR SWIFT, WHERE ARE YOU? WE CAME TO THIS MOVIE FOR YOU, BUT SO FAR ALL I SEE ARE BLANK SPACES

    – The cats have shoes. And are breakdancing. I don’t know what anything means anymore.

    – Jennifer Hudson is singing and emoting her heart out on “Memory,’ and trying her best to bring some actual gravitas to this movie. If only someone would give her a snot rag. Seriously. Guys. Get her a tissue, for the love of god.

    – Sir Ian McKellan. Lapping milk out of a bowl in the closet. I … I don’t even know what to say.

    – The scale of the cats in this movie makes no sense. One minute the cats are half the height of a human doorway. Next they are so small that they are tap-dancing IN ROWS while standing on the rails of a railway track. Are they two feet tall, or two inches? I question the science here.

    – Despite all the madness going on, the lead actress in all this is rather striking. She’s even kinda hot OH MY GOD THIS MOVIE IS MESSING WITH MY BRAIN

    – Taylor Swift is finally here. Riding in on the DreamWorks logo while spraying catnip glitter. No, I did not make that up.

    – Why does Taylor-Cat have giant cat-boobs? None of the other cats do. I have even more questions about the science going on here.

    – I was not prepared for the Idris Elba/Taylor Swift cat-suit sex dance.

    – I kid you not — by now, this audience is treating the movie like Rocky Horror and yelling things at the screen. “Try again!” they shout at Mister Mistoffeles, after his fourth straight attempt at magic fails. And when he finally pulls the magic feat off, the whole theater bursts into applause and hooting.

    – Covered in fur and snarling, Ian McKellan just pushed another cat off of a boat. Someone in the audience yells “YOU SHALL NOT PASS!” Whole theater loses it.

    – Jennifer Hudson, what are you doing? You.are giving a sincere, genuine, heartfelt performance. Good for you, except … Look around! No one else got the memo! For God’s sake, you just sang your heart out and Judi Dench’s response is to start RUBBING HER HEAD ON YOU

    – Again, not making that last one up!

    – Hey, what the shit? There is an actor in the background who they forgot to put cat hair on! Just some random pre-CGI dude! Did we not get the update patch on our version of the movie? Or does this mean they have to do ANOTHER fix? God, those poor bastards in animation. They probably never want to see another dancing cat-person as long as they live.

    – A few years ago, Idris Elba complained that he hated working on the Avengers movies because he felt they were beneath his dignity. That just popped into my head as I watched him.dangling from Jennifer Hudson’s birdcage while wearing a skintight fur suit and growling. No reason.

    – DAME JUDI DENCH, STOP BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL, IT’S CREEPING ME OUT WHEN YOU STARE AT ME LIKE THAT WHILE LECTURING ME THAT A CAT IS NOT A DOG

    – At last, the credits. Wait — “Produced by Amblin Entertainment?” Steven Spielberg … knew? He knew this movie was happening? And didn’t try to stop it?

    – The movie got a standing ovation. Holy shit. People were chanting “Cats are not dogs!”

    – Now we want to see if there is a post-credit scene that has dogs. The world needs an Andrew Lloyd Webber Shared Cinematic Universe.

    – I wonder if this is what it felt like for the very first audiences to ever see “The Rocky Horror Picture Show.”

    – If this becomes the next Rocky Horror, I don’t even want to think about the props that will.be thrown at the screen. Surely milk, catnip and Taylor Swift CDs will be involved.

    – It is over. And all I want to do is go home, pet and cuddle Jackie, Danica and Max, and beg for their forgiveness. I hope they do not kill me in my sleep for my species having inflicted this film upon theirs.

    – And yet at the same time, I am strangely impressed by the sheer bollocks that it must have taken to put something this totally bonkers on the screen. For all its faults — and oh, there are so.many faults — there is a certain charm.in a movie that waves its freak flag without an ounce of shame.

    – Still, I am going to see some really weird shit in my dreams for many nights to come, thanks to this experience. Thanks so much for that, Tom Hooper.

    – As I started the car to drive home, Z102.9 was playing “I’m.Not Alright” by Loud Luxury. You feel me, Loud Luxury. You feel me.

    1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

      Not a jab at you, Mo, but…I can’t even read all of that. And, I probably would agree with the author, if I had any participation in seeing that movie.

      1. It’s okay. I don’t read (or usually post in comments) big walls of text. I thought it was hilarious.

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          Oh, the part I read was, definitely. For whatever reason(s), I just couldn’t scale the wall.

    2. Sounds like a nightmare made flesh CGI

      1. straffinrun

        ^This. Using CGI to do Cats is ridiculous. The most interesting part of the musical were the costumes and set.

    3. Rhywun

      I heard some of the actors were trashing it.

    4. mikey

      That was a fun read – thx

    5. Chafed

      That wall of texts is giving me TOS flashbacks. Ken Schultz is that you?

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        Was Ken ever that witty?

      2. Ken didn’t believe in paragraphs.

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          But, paragraphs believe in him…

          /yeah, I don’t get it, either

    6. Akira

      It sounds so bad that I’m almost tempted to go see it…

  35. hayeksplosives

    Bringing the fragrance discussion down here as a refresh, I’ve read pretty well constructed scientific studies indicating that scent/fragrance is a huge memory trigger, more than all other senses.

    Turns out the part of your brain that processes scent is directly next to the hippocampus, which is the brain’s card catalog for retrieving memories.

    Part of why people (ahem) with temporal lobe epilepsy often detect a scent before a seizure; that portion of the brain is tickled and affects memory and scent perception at once.

    1. Rhywun

      scent/fragrance is a huge memory trigger, more than all other senses

      Can confirm.

    2. straffinrun

      Just guessing, but I’d assume that evolution dictated we remember smells because …”That smells like the dead buffalo I ate 20 years ago that made me sick as a dog.”

      1. hayeksplosives

        Checks out.

        Similar to why we love BBQ. My theory is a Buffalo got struck by lightning in Africa and some early hominids thought “whoah, that smells awesome!”

        Plus it was effectively sterilized

    3. KSuellington

      Yes, definitely. I have heard a good explanation that deja vu is mostly attributable to smell. I can believe it, certain smells really bring you back.

      1. hayeksplosives

        My pre-seizure auras are definitively deja vu.

        I had no idea until my diagnosis at age 33 that it wasn’t normal to get deja vu several times a week, and when sleep deprived several times a day.

        I’d just go “Welp. Gonna be a deja vu kinda day I guess.”

        1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

          As weird as this may sound, when Deja Vu hits, I have taken to doing some kind of anomalous, superfluous physical action–something that I can be certain I didn’t do in the “memory”, so as to disrupt the feeling.

          That probably makes no sense, but, it’s what I do.

        2. Isn’t it odd that we have weird things going on that we don’t know are weird because things just never come up in conversation?

          “Yeah, I have deja vu a lot.”

          “Me too.”

          Totes normal. Your “a lot” = several times a day, theirs = a couple of times a week/month, but you assume you’re talking about the same thing and so you never talk about what “a lot” is.

          Now my question is: deja vu … did that shit really happen or is your brain fucking with you?

          1. hayeksplosives

            Brain is fucking with you. The hippocampus accidentally misfiles something you’re experiencing now into long term memory instead of short term.

            So it echos back as a memory even though you’re a rational being who knows you never have been there or said that.

          2. hayeksplosives

            When it hits while I’m making a presentation or something, I just ignore it and continue on. Nobody knows.

            It only lasts 10-30 seconds.

            To me, it hits strongly when it sets in. I know what it is, but I’m still thinking “and then he was to my right in a red shirt, and then she stood up over there…”

            Highly detailed.

          3. Actually that is quite comforting. Sometimes if I have a deja vu (this doesn’t happen often) I also get very dizzy.

          4. hayeksplosives

            Truth is, If you look at the medical papers and talk to a neurologist, EVERYONE has a seizure threshold.

            Some, like me, have a lower one than the general population. That’s why we get diagnosed and medicated for epilepsy.

            The “auras” are actually what are called simple partial seizures. You maintain consciousness and control the whole time while having a deja vu or scent or epigastric rising. It is brief.

            Then there are complex partials where the guilty seizure center recruits the corresponding lobe on the other half of the brain. At that point you are observably out of it. But it’s brief too.

            If the whole brain sympathizes, you get a full up grand mal seizure.

    1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

      Do No Evil: A Novel

      followed up by

      OK, Just a Little Bit of Evil: A Sequel

      Things take a naughty, raucous turn…

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        How the hell did that gt struck? I didn’t put that command in….

        Squirrels become gremlins after 0 hour, apparently

    2. KSuellington

      In a world where callous and terrible men took what they wanted, there was a woman who would not be taken. She knew from as far back as she could remember, that she owned herself. She wished no harm on any man or woman, but she would defend to the death any attempt to harm the body of anyone she loved.

  36. Chafed

    Methinks Joe Walsh wrote tonight’s theme song.

    https://youtu.be/d3XSI_xwvss

    1. straffinrun

      Since we’re going eclectic, I’m going with this today.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbc7LjMv8Lo

      1. KSuellington

        Music from the best private detective show that you’ve never seen.

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ymw768TCQ

        1. straffinrun

          Best album cover ever. Waiting for Judge Wapner to come walking out with that intro.

      2. Chafed

        I wasn’t trying to be eclectic. I thought the song fit much of the conversation above.

        1. straffinrun

          Sorry, I was being acerbic and don’t really know what eclectic means.

  37. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

    Heroes in blue.

    The victim is strong in that one. I wonder if there is a union getting involved…

    1. Chafed

      I admit I didn’t see that coming. Good for the owner standing up for his workers.

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        Damn right!

    2. commodious spittoon

      Hornaday told reporters that the officer told him the incident had been intended as a joke.

      Haaaaaaa

      1. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

        “I was takin’ the piss, Chief!”

        “And, now, you can take a hike.”

        1. commodious spittoon

          Does anybody remember laughter??

          1. What is this of which you speak?

          2. commodious spittoon
          3. commodious spittoon

            With you, I always feel like I’m trying to tell a racist joke in mixed company.

          4. No, I honestly don’t know what “O&A” is

          5. commodious spittoon

            Nor should you. It’s some racist program. Don’t worry about it.

          6. That doesn’t make me wander off.

          7. Gender Traitor

            OK, I’ll bite. Opie & Andy? Never knowingly heard them, just heard of them. Essentially a pair of Howard Sterns? Had to pay extra to get them on the satellite radio, but why bother?

  38. Rand Paul has a Grievance with Sir Digby

    Can media members be banned from using the phrase “into their own hands” in reference to anything…?

    She took her personal safety into her own hands, fuckwit. How does that sound, now?

    /yeah, yeah–1A

    1. Chafed

      Another 2A victory.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Coincidentally, the new issue of the NRA’s “America’s First Freedom” features as the cover story “The Rise of the Woman Gun Owner”

  39. hayeksplosives

    Ladies and gents, I give the incomparable Mark Steyn.

    ~Violent attacks on Jews are sufficiently routine in New York City (eight just last week) that a busy mayor can apparently afford to phone it in:

    Hate doesn’t have a home in our city.

    Did whichever twelve-year-old staffer came up with that fatuous pap even have to run it by the big guy? Admittedly, Bill de Blasio’s speechwriters seem to be laboring under the illusion that he’s mayor not of New York but of Sesame Street. But it was so well-received that the intern on duty followed up with:

    Anti-Semitism is an attack on the values of our city.

    That’s a real dodge, isn’t it? First, “values” should be attacked – or at any rate challenged, contested, debated, eternally. Otherwise, they’re just a state ideology – and, as in this case, a useful deflection for sleazy cowardly politicians. What’s being attacked is not “values” but actual Jews with bones and arteries and lungs and other inviting body parts.

    Thus, a few hours after the mayoral Tweet, the fellow at top right – Grafton Thomas – went to a private home in Monsey and stabbed five Jews at a Hanukkah gathering. Why do robbers rob banks? Because that’s where the money is. Why go to Monsey? Because that’s where the Jews are. At the time of the 2000 Census, for example, forty-two per cent of residents spoke Yiddish and seven per cent spoke Hebrew. So, if you’ve got a machete and you’re looking for a Jew to stick it into, you’ve got a fifty-fifty chance of hitting paydirt. That’s why Grafton Thomas was in Monsey. Nobody grabs his machete to go a-huntin’ “values”.

    1. commodious spittoon

      Goodness, Hayek, it’s barely four in the morning. Too early for your heresies.

  40. I can tell I really don’t want to go to work today. I woke up actually hoping to open the door and see the road covered in glaze ice.

    It wasn’t, but I’ll be over it in time to make it to my cube.

    1. commodious spittoon

      I am off today. And I woke up super early to enjoy it courtesy of inebriation my dedication to work.

      1. I have to drag myself into the office. I also have to pick up something for lunch on the way. It looks like all of yesterday’s ice melted. So I have to get moving.

        1. commodious spittoon

          I’d point out that it’s barely four in the morning, but I’m sure you’d come back with something reasonable like it’s six where you are.

          1. straffinrun

            A few more hours to New Years. Spending it at home with the family this years. Mellow Yellow.

          2. commodious spittoon

            Quite rightly.

            Do the Japanese celebrate New Years? Or are they recalcitrant like the Chinese, insisting on their own ridiculous calendar?

          3. straffinrun

            It’s a big holiday. Countdowns and all. Good luck making it to midnight if you got up at 4.

          4. It was quarter after six when you posted that. I was already on the road, and now I’m in the office, barely eight minutes before my official start of day at 7.

  41. hayeksplosives

    “Gee I hope my workplace burned to the ground so I don’t have earn an honest living.”

    Do you people even Free Market ? Turn in your shitlord cards.

    1. Honest living? Was ist das?

      1. hayeksplosives

        Ah yes. You do work for gubmint.

        So do I, indirectly, but at least we have to provide value.

        Studying the effects of cocaine on the mating habits of quails would never be green lighted by my company, but it was by the fed government

        1. Where did the quails purchase their cocaine?

          Oh, probably from Coyotes.

    2. Tejicano

      I did that corporate office gig since 1985 and it just got too old to keep doing it.

      Now I’m selling my skills contract by contract. I make a hell of a lot more on a daily basis. No freaking way I would go back to that cubicle life again.

      1. hayeksplosives

        I love that spoof song “My Cubicle” to the tune of Youre Beautiful.

        I will never return to the cube life again. After 20 cube years, I have the corner office, with a view of palm trees and mountains

        1. I would love to have an office with a door.

          Instead they just keep moving my group to worse cubes.

          1. Sean

            I have a door, but I almost never shut it.

            Having your own window ac unit? Priceless.

          2. I remember when I first started with the state, my seat was next to the agency datacenter. I had access to that room, and whenever I wanted to, I could just to in and stand in front of the big AC units there….

            Now I don’t have datacenter access, and my cube is in a solar oven that has hit 85 in the winter.

        2. Tejicano

          In the Japan version I was the director of my section of the local corporate entity – which gave me the corner desk in the open group area. But that had more to do with the section of the industry I was running (and how that job is done in Japan). I met my Shanghai counterpart a couple weeks ago while working a contract there and he has his own office with a door – but like me it was in the basement.

      2. straffinrun

        Did you just see Kiss perform with X JAPAN live on Kouhaku (NHK). Kind of strange.

        1. Tejicano

          Yeah, I didn’t recognize Gene Simons at first. But then, I doubt I would have recognized him sitting next to me on a flight from NRT to LAX.

          1. straffinrun

            Getting old. Looked like they lip sync’d it.

          2. Tejicano

            “Getting” old? I think they arrived some time ago.

        2. Tejicano

          I hope you’re still watching NHK (Japanese PBS) and digging this Enka vibe.