Monday Morning Links

A masterful outing

The Astros have come back to life after a disappointing start to the World Series and are now on the brink of winning it all again.  Game 6 is tomorrow night.Meanwhile, Ohio State hasn’t had a disappointing anything all year and thy pounded the absolute shit out of Wisconsin. LSU topped Auburn, Oklahoma was upset and Notre Dame got drilled by TTUN.

In the NFL, the Seahawks, Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Titans, Colts, Rams, Saints, Jags, 49ers, Texans (poor JJ Watt), and Packers won. The Steelers play the Dolphins tonight in a game that’s sure to thrill hundreds of people somewhere in Yinzerland.

Suck it, Wales!

And way over in Japan, where it’s sometime tomorrow right now or something, England stunned (and beat the shit out of) the All Blacks and South Africa used an aerial bombardment to take down Wales. They’ll meet Saturday in the Final, although I think that’s actually Sunday. But I can’t be sure.  Either way, I’ve gotta get up at 3 am to watch it.

What a guy!

Erasmus was born on this day. As were hated pupped Gordon Shumway, polio-eradicator Jonas Salk, F1 Supremo Bernie Ecclestone, olympian Bruce Jenner, high-school graduate Bill Gates, actress Daphne Zuniga, actress Julia Roberts, and harelip Joaquin Phoenix.

OK, now on too…the links!

The editors at WaPo might be the dumbest people in the world.

This is what you get for assuming the gender of an unborn baby.

“Will Work For Threesome”

The Kinky Congresswoman is resigning. I assume it’s to spend more time with her “family”.

Now this warms my heart. Seriously.

More blackouts coming to a California city near you. Well, only those of you still crazy enough to live in that state.

And Brexit continues to be a shitshow sabotaged by members of its own government and the bureaucrats in Brussels. Big shocker there.

Yeah, I’m back on the New Wave kick. I apologize in advance for nothing.

Go have a great day, friends!

Comments

534 responses to “Monday Morning Links”

  1. PieInTheSky

    The editors at WaPo might be the dumbest people in the world. – I am sure there is to much competition out there to clearly state that

    1. leon

      There are so many varieties of dumb, that to call someone the dumbest would be hard to judge.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Recently seen on the interwebz the NYT original obituary for Stalin

        Stalin Rose From Czarist Oppression to Transform Russia Into Mighty Socialist State

        http://movies2.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/1221.html

        But those who survived the purges hailed Stalin as a supreme genius.

        I mean…

        1. leon

          It’s totes true. I played the Soviet Union in HOI4 and you have to purge or else a civil war will start.

  2. PieInTheSky

    And Brexit continues to be a shitshow sabotaged by members of its own government and the bureaucrats in Brussels. Big shocker there.

    There was a joke on the internet with a guy in the future saying I am a brexit negotiator, like my father and his father before

    1. Rhywun

      The UK is still a member of the European Union. But no one else is. Long since collapsed, it is now just a portacabin outside the Mini-Europe miniature park in Brussels.

      It employs one man, whose job it is to sweep up, sort the post, and respond to the United Kingdom’s periodic requests for an extension to Article 50.

  3. PieInTheSky

    The Astros have come back to life after a disappointing start to the World Series and are now on the brink of winning it all again.

    Cardinals in 7!

    1. PieInTheSky

      I generally do not follow baseball but as I said before I occasionally look for amusement at the oldtakesexposed twitter, and try to guess what happened based on which tweets are “cold takes”

      Based on this

      No one comes into our *home* and pushes us around.

      https://twitter.com/Nationals/status/1188240138901446656

      I assume the team lost a home game soundly…

      1. robc

        5 home games lost. Houston lost 2 at home, then Natinals lost 3 straight.

        Listing up autocorrect, I spelled that correctly. Or at least as correctly as the Washington uniform guy.

      2. Tejicano

        What are “Astros”?

        1. Wasn’t that the dog on the Jetsons?

        2. Not Adahn

          A term that lets you know when it was created. cf “cyber.”

  4. leon

    The editors at WaPo might be the dumbest people in the world.

    Democracy Dies in Huge Fiery Explosions

    1. I thought that was Al-Baghdadi

    2. That was an incredibly telling screw up on WaPo’s part. I can imagine some Millenial typing that thinking, “Perfect. Subtle. Great signaling, but plausible deniability for the scumbag deplorables.”

  5. robc

    Low country weather report:

    100% humidity, 0% chance of rain.

    1. leon

      that sounds awful. We had our first big snow of the season. Nothing major, but did get about 1/2 an inch.

      1. robc

        I went to the beach yesterday, so I have that.

  6. leon

    In other Sports news, Utah got their first conference game shutout since joining the Pac-12. I did like Kyle Whittingham’s reaction when he was told that. “Well it was about time”.

  7. DOOMco

    The wapo edit is pretty stupid, even for them.

    I liked the”apology” the most.
    “It happened”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The big media outlets are struggling to cope with a military victory for Trump. Cut them some slack.

      NPR in particular was hemming and hawing over having to designate the mission a success this morning.

      1. Took out the head of ISIS, captured a good deal of intelligence data, suffered one injured canine, no fatalities on our side.

        That’s a successful raid however you slice it.

        1. leon

          Obama’s raid on Osama bin laden didn’t have a Dog die. So his was better.

          1. The dog didn’t die. It was merely injured.

          2. DOOMco

            Trump hates dogs and wants them to die.
            Trump is canine Hitler!

          3. Pat

            On the other hand we did lose a stealth helicopter with tens of millions of dollars of equipment and trade secrets to the Pakis.

          4. leon

            who sold it to the Chinese

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Yes, but we’ll never be able to repeat it since we’re leaving Syria. (seriously, that’s their take)

      2. DOOMco

        “he already said ISIS was defeated! Ah ha!”

        1. Gadfly

          That’s a possible spin, but it is such weak tea that it would be smarter to avoid. After all, the leader is usually the last person to go when a nation is defeated. The US had already defeated Iraq by the time they got Saddam, the Allies had already defeated Germany by the time Hitler decided to bite the bullet, etc.

      3. Pat

        Something tells me most of the credit will be reserved for the actual soldiers who executed the mission this time, instead of all of it being conferred upon the president.

        1. straffinrun

          Haven’t seen you around in a while. S’up, Pat.

          1. Pat

            Heh, I didn’t think anybody would notice. Good to see you (and everybody) again.

          2. Certified Public Asshat

            I noticed *holds out fist for awkward fist bump*

          3. Count Potato

            Welcome back!

          4. bacon-magic

            Don’t shoot!

          5. Pat

            D’aww, you tolerate me, you really tolerate me!

          6. That’s a low bar, we’ll tolerate almost anyone.

          7. Fuck off, Tulpa.

      4. straffinrun

        Didn’t Brian Williams describe Trump’s missile attacks on the Syrian airports as “beautiful” and “presidential”?

  8. Sean

    Multiple accidents on the way to work this morning.

    Nothing like traffic jams to start the work day.

    Can someone please hit the reset button? I want to start this day over.

    1. I tried several times. I woke up at 1am, 2am, 3am, 4am, 5am… I eventually gave up and drive into work at 6am.

    2. PieInTheSky

      Imagine living this morning over and over again. Wake up stuck in traffic reset. Wake up stuck in traffic reset.

      1. Bucharest traffic?

        1. PieInTheSky

          Its bad but I have nothing to do with it…

    3. robc

      On my commute, woman put an SUV thru a brick wall. The wall did stop her, eventually. She was sitting talking to cops, I think she was ok, which was impressive considering the hole in the wall.

      1. leon

        The other day i passed a wreck where a Semi had completely jumped over the guard rail. It looked pretty bad, but i never checked to see what exactly happened.

      2. pistoffnick

        I HATE rubber neckers. If you want to look so bad pull over and have a look. I would like to be on my way

    4. Nephilium

      Nope. Not risking it. There was an upgrade over the weekend that apparently went smoothly (in that I wasn’t called at any point, and haven’t heard any complaints yet this morning).

      1. Jarflax

        It went so badly it killed all communication devices. There are physical letters with crash reports being hand carried to your desk

    5. straffinrun

      We can do it. Just gonna cost you some coin and hope you’re near the airport.

    6. Can someone please hit the reset button? I want to start this day over.

      Is that a thing? Can we do that? I didn’t realize it was an option.

      1. We did, this is the redo we got.

  9. PieInTheSky

    More blackouts coming to a California city near you. Well, only those of you still crazy enough to live in that state. – PGE is one o them evil private corporations abusing the free market. Textbook market failure.

    1. robc

      Needles would be nearest to me, I think. 2228 miles.

    1. straffinrun

      That can’t be a legal goal, can it?

      1. DOOMco

        The first one was. Since he was tripped into the goalie, it was not ruled interference.

        It was a bit controversial.

        1. straffinrun

          You’d think they’d either call a penalty or have a face off.

          1. DOOMco

            They probably should have whistled it dead and called a trip, possibly ending in a shot.

          2. Tundra

            Stupid defensive play. Lundqvist was square to the shot – let him go 1 0n 1 on Bergeron. Instead you almost kill your goalie and they score anyway.

          3. DOOMco

            Yeah, he blocked pastas shot, and if he was still upright, there’s almost no chance for that rebound to get anywhere.

            Maybe.

      2. Gdragon

        While I haven’t clicked and watched the clip yet I think that the general rule is “nothing that the Bruins do is legal, but nothing that the Bruins do will be called a penalty” 😉

        1. DOOMco

          Hey!

          1. Not Adahn

            Puppy!

          2. DOOMco

            My parents dog. He’s very eager to help with tasks. Really enjoys helping in the plow truck.

          3. Gdragon

            He’s beautiful.

  10. Pat

    This is what you get for assuming the gender of an unborn baby.

    “We can’t tell her the sex, it’ll kill her…”

    1. PieInTheSky

      Gender reveal parties are dumb regardless. What happened to a good old fashioned cigar

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        Too ambiguous.

      2. What happened to a good old fashioned cigar

        Bill Clinton.

  11. leon

    Brexit continues to be a shitshow sabotaged

    It as never supposed to happen. The fact that the plebs voted for it was just a minor hic-up.

  12. On my commute into work there is one ramp that had a nasty nest of potholes. An annoyance, but known, so avoidable if you’re in the left lane in time – which isn’t always an option due to traffic.

    Last week, they began road work on the section, which had me convinced it would be a mess for ages. They have been working on smaller, less damaged spans in the same area all summer.

    Well, by friday they’d cut out the whole span of pavement and dug down to the substrate. By this morning they’d repaved, resurfanced, and repainted the entire ramp, with no signs or cones left on site.

    In trying to figure out how the DoT managed it, it dawned on me – that was the same ramp that led to their headquarters offices just down the road from mine.

    So it is possible for the Department of Transportation to do good work quickly – if the problem is an inconvenience for their agency director.

    1. Nephilium

      So we need to let the higher-ups in the DoT work from home to prevent things getting fixed in the future?

      1. What? Where did you get that idea?

  13. PieInTheSky

    commie twitter of the day

    A question: Which imperialist made first use of the anti-communist term “the iron curtain”? The Nazi Propagandist #Goebells, or the Semi-Fascist imperialist #Churchill? It was always a code for war against the working class. Don’t accept the fraud. #Imperialism is YOUR enemy.

    https://twitter.com/CPGBML/status/1188757023522988032

    1. PieInTheSky

      The most important lesson from this history of three working-class internationals is that #SocialDemocracy — the #Labour party — is the enemy of the working class, the enemy of #socialism, an agent of #imperialist rule in our midst. #fascism #comintern

      https://twitter.com/joti2gaza/status/1188433427265138689

    2. leon

      You know the West hated the workers so much. They would open their doors to them and refuse to deport them back to their workers paradises they fled from.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The British seem to have a lot of tankies.

      1. leon

        Yeah. I don’t know what is more infuriating. The Bright Eyed Useful idiot, or the “I know exactly what i’m doing” Tankie.

  14. Pat

    The Kinky Congresswoman is resigning

    Speaking of which

    1. Sean

      Heh.

      “penetration testing” a 3 way app.

    2. Count Potato

      That is pretty bad.

    3. I. B. McGinty

      How does one get in on those parties? Asking for a friend.

      1. Rasilio

        If you are in the DC area I can hook you up. Or up in Baltimore there is this place…

        https://baltimoreplayhouse.com/

    4. Social Justice is Neither

      So now I know how Trump found Kavanaugh to nominate and the selection criteria.

  15. PieInTheSky

    The avatarpocalips is over. Everyone who does not get an avatar in the next 24 hours shalt have thy beer turn sour in thy mouth. So spoketh Pie

    1. straffinrun

      Doesn’t matter. Sloopy’s avatar is gonna get us all killed so enough.

    2. Pat

      I thought my browsers was just bugged out.

    3. Nephilium

      shalt have thy beer turn sour

      What about the sour beers?

      1. PieInTheSky

        No self respecting glib drinks sour beer.

        1. Nephilium

          You sure about that?

          1. PieInTheSky

            yup

          2. robc

            Pie is anti-sour. Good. More gueuze for me.

          3. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

            Roderbach Grand Cru is a sour beer, and is one of the most surprising and sublime experiences in beer-drinking I’ve ever had.

          4. “Sublime – a citrus that’s less than a lime.”

    4. Not Adahn

      Hopefully someday I’ll be able to find my avatar, or the source that I clipped it from. Otherwise, my tag line isn’t going to make much sense.

      1. I found it, check the media library

        1. Not Adahn

          Woot! Thanks!

          1. No problem, I’m fucking off today so spending hours scouring the internet for lost avatars is no biggie.

          2. Not Adahn

            Not Adahn on October 28, 2019 at 8:55 am
            Hopefully someday I’ll be able to find my avatar,

            The Hyperbole on October 28, 2019 at 9:27 am
            I found it

            spending hours scouring the internet for lost avatars

            You started searching for it before I asked? That’s… remarkably considerate. Or you’re stalking me.

          3. I hope he didn’t waste any time looking for mine – I commissioned the artwork from the artist, so I kept the originals. It is up there in a couple of places, but I never lost it.

          4. I found Pie’s earlier today. never looked for Dr Omnicron or whatever his name is. (but i could find it if I wanted to)

          5. Dr Omicron.

            The artist the the same guy who does the covers for my books. It was the first thing I paid him to make.

  16. Rufus the Monocled

    “The editors at WaPo might be the dumbest people in the world.”

    And commies.

    1. Winston

      Well “we” re-elected Turdeau jr. And gave the Bloc and NDP the keys…

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        “We” are retards.

    2. Tonio

      I think it’s delicious how they think people still take them seriously outside the (Capital) Beltway.

  17. PieInTheSky

    Was this covered?

    While European wealth tax failed, superior US wealth tax will succeed. Europe tolerates tax competition. … only way to escape the IRS is to renounce citizenship … Europeans also tolerated tax evasion to a foolish degree. … US has been more aggressive

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/wealth-taxes-often-failed-in-europe-they-wouldnt-here/2019/10/25/23a59cb0-f4ff-11e9-829d-87b12c2f85dd_story.html

    1. leon

      So in other words: “were way bigger dicks, so it will work for us”.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The author is French. He’s just lamenting that the US tax authorities are more oppressive than his own.

      2. PieInTheSky

        I am sure the business of renouncing citizenship would grow given a sufficient wealth tax.

        What annoys me is that if you start a company and simply grow that company, if you are successful enough a lefty will simple argue for the state to take the company you founded away from you for social equality purposes

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Annoys? It should do more than that.

          They sorta already do that through various regulatory schemes.

          Some of the laws are to put the breaks on profits and then they demand mo’ money.

          They’re really good at extortion but really bad with economics and finance.

    2. leon

      By the way, the “Global tax Jurisdiction” is utterly ridiculous. Also, the idea of an Exit tax is so galling to a so-called “Free peoples” that anyone who advocates for it ought to be strung up and hanged like the traitorous blackheart they are. It is utter subjugation of a person who is not a subject to a nation but a citizen. To say that a man, who of not fate of his own but being born within the geographical confines of the United States is forever a slave to the US Government lest he purchase his freedom from his master is horseshit.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You didn’t birth that.

        1. leon

          I’m founding the FSM (Free Sperm Movement).

    3. Certified Public Asshat

      Taxes are bound neither to fail nor to succeed: Governments can choose to make them work or allow them to fail, and European governments made wrong choices, letting tax avoidance fester. The taxes envisioned by Warren and Sanders — which we helped design — could be rendered largely immune to the problems that undermined wealth taxation abroad. In other words, the United States is in a good position to make this work.

      They will work because we thought of them.

  18. straffinrun

    “This is the hardest thing I have ever had to do, but I believe it is the best thing for my constituents, my community and our country.”

    Harder than the Jane Fonda?

  19. straffinrun

    Woman, 56, is killed by flying debris after an explosion during a gender reveal party gone wrong in Iowa

    Congratulations it’s a ….bastard.

    1. Fourscore

      At the birth of my first born

      Nurse: “Congratulations, you have a darling baby boy”

      Me (country guy) “How do you know?”

      1. I mean the ‘darling’ part has yet to be established at that point.

      2. straffinrun

        “The penis is a dead ringer.”

        1. zwak

          Not anymore…/derp

  20. PieInTheSky

    The Implicit Association Test: A Method in Search of a Construct

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1745691619863798

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I ran an implicit association experiment as a student for a postdoc and the data was all over the place. It’s what opened my eyes to the fact that psychology has incorporated a large amount of bullshit and is a broken “science.”

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    I see porn in Katie’s future.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Needs some time in the gym though.

      1. Sean

        Agreed

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Probably some surgical enhancements, too.

      2. Tonio

        Now she’ll have to pay for her gym membership like normal people instead of using the House Gym. Or maybe not, pay for it, that is. I can see a gym owner “comping” her membership then quietly nosing it about as how she’s now a gym member.

        I wonder if there are PR shops that specialize in helping people like her monetize their scandal, and how long she can float on her notoriety as far as actual income.

        1. Fourscore

          She’ll no longer be able to screw the taxpayers anyway

          1. I. B. McGinty

            Well if she does porn…

        2. Count Potato

          She can write a book.

          1. l0b0t

            Will it be copiously illustrated?

          2. Count Potato

            Well, no, maybe should “leak” a sex tape?

        3. Rufus the Monocled

          Yeh. It’s called porn.

        4. R C Dean

          Does she qualify for the lifetime pension? I recall Carlos Danger hanging on long enough to get his.

    2. leon

      Mr. Smith Comes in washington?

    3. Tonio

      Is that really any worse than a bad “lifestyle” media biopic.

    4. DEG

      I’m certain there is already a sex tape/video out there given what I’ve already seen.

  22. Pat

    John Conyers: Longest-serving black congressman dies aged 90

    The longest-serving black member of the US Congress, John Conyers, has died at home at the age of 90, police in Detroit say.

    The Democrat resigned under a cloud of sexual harassment allegations in December 2017 after a career lasting nearly 53 years.

    In office, he was known for his liberal stance on civil rights and liberties.

    He memorably fought for 15 years to make the birthday of Martin Luther King what it is today – a national holiday.

    Conyers was also a founding member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder
    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Term. Limits. Public servants shouldn’t be ‘serving’ that long. There comes a time when they stop serving the public (if ever) and just, well, serve themselves.

      They will always take the last piece of cake without asking.

      1. There comes a time when they stop serving the public (if ever)

        the bolded part is why it doesn’t matter.

      2. Gadfly

        Personally I don’t like the idea of absolute term limits, because there are so few good politicians that I want to keep those around, and the threat of election does keep a lot of people reined in, but I do like the idea of consecutive term limits, such that there’s a limit to how many terms a person can serve in a row before they have to do something else. They can come back after the break, so if they were good the people can have them back again, but you still get most of the benefits of absolute term limits by introducing new people into the system periodically. Also, until the bureaucracy is reined in term limits of any type won’t do jack but further empower the bureaucrats.

        1. It’s simple limit the number of years you can draw a paycheck from any government job, elected or not. Bureaucrat, politician, teacher, you’re term-limited across all job tracks. Add in a lifetime bar from working for any job accepting government funding in any form, and you’re golden.

          1. Gadfly

            That’s a good idea. Especially if you allow people to continue to work past the paycheck limit for free. Put the “service” back into “public service”.

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            Congress critters don’t get rich on their paycheck.

            My preference is that they need to have more votes, +1% for each term in office. If you can hold off an opposition by +10%, have at it.

          3. That’s my plan but I think the number needs to be 3-5% per term served.

          4. Fourscore

            if hey can’t steal enough in 2 terms they are too dumb to be elected again.

        2. Rhywun

          I’m torn on the issue.

          The practical effect of term limits in my local city council was to turn it into a platform for far-leftist “activists” more quickly than would have happened otherwise. It is how we got Deblasio as mayor.

          1. l0b0t

            Also, the prior mayor who decided he would rather disregard the term limits of his office so he had the city council give a special dispensation to run for another term.

          2. Rhywun

            That was something else, wasn’t it?

            Rule of law, shmrule of law.

          3. Gadfly

            Yes, that effect is exactly what I am afraid of. What we have now is bad. What we could have instead could be worse.

          4. Jarflax

            That is usually the effect of term limits. Term limits are based on an assumption I will charitably call mistaken, that the job corrupts otherwise decent people. The truth is that corrupt people seek the job. Term limits just remove the handful of exceptions sooner and make the problem worse.

          5. mindyourbusiness

            Pity there’s no way to tie political office to the Pareto Principle.

          6. Bobarian LMD

            I’m against term limits because the real effect is that it results in dictating that people in a given district aren’t allowed to vote for who they wat to vote for.

            The re-election process is the only fair way to execute term limits, even though it doesn’t work well.

            Maybe a better way to leverage power would to be to limit how long a person can serve on any congressional committees, or make committee assignments a totally random selection process.

            I think that is where the graft really gets a foothold.

          7. Don Escaped Texas

            ^this^ is the answer

            you either believe your moron neighbors are entitled to their mistakes or you’re not

            the source of term limits is the church lady urge: to tell other people what not to do

            I hate my neighbors; I hate elections; I really really hate church ladies; but we’re free

          8. A Leap at the Wheel

            you either believe your moron neighbors are entitled to their mistakes or you’re not

            In a republic, the government is organized specifically to protect the smallest minority from their moron neighbors…

          9. Don Escaped Texas

            republic

            no doubt; doG knows I need the help;

            but, at the end of the day, I didn’t get to vote for 98 of the Senators

          10. Rhywun

            people in a given district aren’t allowed to vote for who they wat to vote for

            Yeah and I lean more this way these days and for the same reason.

            I like your idea about the committee assignments.

    3. Gdragon

      I see that the BBC doesn’t have the “when you were up against a wall, he was right there with you, for me and for everyone” quote from his wife. So I guess that they are still doing “phrasing”

  23. Drake

    I watched maybe 2 innings of the game last night. That ump had no idea where the strike-zone was.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      It didn’t get better.

  24. PieInTheSky

    Open Borders: The Science and Ethics of Immigration by Bryan Caplan, illustrated by Zach Weinersmith

    http://smithsonianapa.org/bookdragon/open-borders-the-science-and-ethics-of-immigration-by-bryan-caplan-illustrated-by-zach-weinersmith-in-booklist/

    I am still not sure you can make any scientific argument for or against open borders…

    1. Drake

      Plenty of historical arguments against. John Glubb noted an influx of foreigners was both a symptom of late-stage empires and a contributing factor to their downfall.

      1. l0b0t

        General Burkhalter, you von’t belive zis.

      2. leon

        I’d say the Historical Arguments are not conclusive either way.

        1. Drake

          Nonsense. For example in 390 BC, Rome was populated by Romans. When a Celtic army invaded and occupied the city, the Romans regrouped outside the city and eventually drove them out. They spent the next decade fighting off their local rivals who tried to take advantage of the crisis.

          By the early 400’s AD, Rome was multicultural, multi-religious, and much of their leadership and the army were foreigners or mixed-blood. In the face of crisis, the armies mutinied and generals’ loyalties shifted constantly. When Rome was overrun, nobody really cared any more.

          1. leon

            First of all, You’re Ignoring that the “Use Foreigners” to fight and even lead was a winning strategy for the Romans for quite a while. But i was referring to the idea that the Historical Record of immigration being good or bad was not one-sided. There are plenty of instances where waves of immigration have been beneficial. If we want to stay on the Roman Example, the early Roman Republic benefited greatly from extending Citizenship to the other non-Roman Latin communities, and then further to the rest of the Italian peninsula. Rome had Granted Citizenship to the Gauls for centuries, despite them being “foreigners”

          2. R C Dean

            Those other communities did not so much immigrate as they were annexed. They didn’t cross the border, the border crossed them, so to speak.

          3. leon

            I Fail to see the importance of the distinction. They were made full citizens of Rome and yet Rome continued to prosper for another 1000 years. The idea that the Historical Record bears out that any influx in the citizenry from outside will lead to bad consequences is not supported.

          4. R C Dean

            I Fail to see the importance of the distinction.

            It may (or may not!) be a distinction without a difference. It is a distinction, however.

            One difference might be that when you annex something, you are saying you want it. When somebody crosses your border, you may or may not want them.

          5. leon

            Fair Enough.

          6. Drake

            That was the later Republic that extended citizenship after the Social War. The Republic was dead 40 years later.

            During the height of the Republic Empire, Goth and Germanic tribes were constantly trying to cross the northern frontier. The Romans usually allowed then in but were very strict about breaking them up into small groups and sending them to different corners of the Empire, that way they had to assimilate and didn’t pose a threat. Towards the end of the Empire, they did start allowing bigger tribes to stay intact, which quickly caused major problems.

          7. Jarflax

            You are cherry picking points here and in my opinion are arguing that an effect was a cause. The move to allowing in the tribes was not so much a cause of the degeneracy as it was a result of Rome becoming degenerate. They let the Germans in because they needed them to man the legions because Romans no longer were willing to do so in sufficient numbers.

          8. Drake

            Yeah – chicken and egg. They became less vigilant towards the end for lots of reasons we can debate. But I believe that the root cause was that Rome was no longer Roman in blood or spirit. It was just an organization that others wanted to control.

    1. Why not? It’s got more claim to being meat than veggie burgers.

      1. Nephilium

        Because it’ll probably taste like sadness?

        1. Timeloose

          I thought it was despair? Maybe it needs more exercise.

    2. Pat

      Most of the alt-meat we eat nowadays, including products like the Impossible Burger, are actually plant based. A number of startups are still working on ethical meat that’s grown from animal cells

      We already have ethical meat that’s grown from animal cells. It’s called meat.

      1. Well yes, but I want to know what about it has Sean nope-ing out of here.

        1. Sean

          I’ll never eat that fake stuff.

          1. Not Adahn

            Maybe I’m a bit of a techno-optimist, but I’m rather curious as to what meaty delicacies we’ll be able to create with out axlotl tanks. Sligpork anyone?

      2. DEG

        YES!

        And I agree with Sean, I’ll never again eat that fake shit. I had enough of it from when I was younger and spent time with Seventh-Day Adventist relatives.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    In a statement, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Hill had “acknowledged errors in judgment that made her continued service as a Member untenable. We must ensure a climate of integrity and dignity in the Congress, and in all workplaces.”

    Thanks, Nance. I needed a good laugh.

    Ms Congressperson Hill could park her bare bottom on my furniture any time.

    1. leon

      I saw one of those commercials where Burger King “pulls a switch”* on someone and gives them a veggie burger, and it made me think. If Prostitution was legalized, would we start seeing commercials where they reveal the hooker was actually trans afterword?

      * I don’t actually believe they fooled real customers because it seems like a legal land mine to even try that.

      1. “What is this? Veggies?! Where is my Ratburger?!”

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Switching products with unsuspecting customers can lead lead to outbursts of violence:
        https://youtu.be/VdQKVDUBu2g

        1. l0b0t

          Brilliant. G/d rest Farley’s sweet soul.

      3. l0b0t

        To be fair, I thought the Impossible Whopper was superior in every way to the normal Whopper. The franchises by us will substitute the Impossible patties for beef on any of their sandwiches upon request.

  26. l0b0t

    Love your avatar Sloopy. Thanks for the Kim WIlde, I really like that song but, I respectfully posit that Lawnmower Deth crafted one of those covers that is better than the original. YMMV

    1. leon

      I actually think Cambodia is a better Kim Wilde song. Though it makes me think of an Abba song i can’t put my finger on.

        1. leon

          Yes. I think that is it.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    London Mayor Sadiq Khan has welcomed the European Union’s decision to extend the Brexit deadline until the end of January.

    Khan tweeted Monday that the decision was “good news” and takes the “immediate risk of a catastrophic no-deal” Brexit off the table.

    The mayor said the extension should be used for a public vote on Brexit.

    He says, “It’s time to give the British public the final say on Brexit.”

    “Nobody I know voted for Brexit.”

    1. Drake

      Now is the time to give them an opportunity to vote correctly, then we can never vote on it again.

    2. leon

      European Union’s decision to extend the Brexit deadline until the end of January.

      The people are sovreign, the government merely reserves the right to enact the peoples will in it’s own due time.

    3. hayeksplosives

      Eat a bag of dicks, Sadiq.

      The people voted!! Does that matter or not?!?

      Did ALL the freedom-loving Britons move to colonial America?

      1. Count Potato

        He can eat a bag of sadicks.

      2. Jarflax

        Freedom loving Brits left, or died in WWI, several generations of the dole did their work on the rest and hey presto.

    1. You said there’s no way we’d need unlimited internationally calling.

    2. Pat

      An eagle bankrupting the Russkies? That’s a metaphor for something or other, I reckon.

    3. PieInTheSky

      Hey that was linked days ago

      1. Not Adahn

        Months.

  28. Drake

    Joe Biden Intervened To Help Hunter’s Lobbying Efforts On Multiple Occasions

    I didn’t watch him on 60 Minutes last night because I knew it would be nothing but slow-pitch softball questions.

    1. leon

      No Zero hedge Trigger warning?

      1. robc

        Just don’t read the comments.

        1. Count Potato

          So you’re saying it was the Jews?

        2. Jarflax

          here you go:

          The levels of trump derangement syndrome, media manipulation are so severe that if you ran hitler against trump, I reckon 80pct Democrats would vote for hitler. So basically Biden’s corruption is meaningless

          play_arrow

          1 day ago

          I support Trump… but if Hitler were to run… he would get my vote.

          We need a guy like Uncle Adolph… this country is failing badly behind the insane libturd agenda…

  29. Drake

    Nancy Pelosi takes break from impeachment maneuvering to chastise Trump for not telling her in advance about al-Baghdadi raid.

    So they could leak it and watch a bunch of Rangers die in an ambush.

    1. “Nance, we didn’t want to interrupt your rambling at cameras.”

    2. leon

      Perhaps she’s upset about a military action that was not authorized by congress ?

      Okay that’s funny.

      1. PieInTheSky

        But seriously, such a action I assume is difficult to authorize by congress, singe it is supposed to be secret.

        1. leon

          So as commander in Chief the President doesn’t need approval for actual military maneuvers and strategies. But he damn well needs approval to start anything. There has been no congressional authorization for the US to be in Syria.

          1. Gadfly

            Now, this raises an interesting question. Congress has not authorized an invasion of Syria. But it has condemned pulling troops out of Syria. What, if any, legal implications does this have?

          2. Jarflax

            It implies that law is dead and we are governed by immoral, immature imbeciles.

          3. mindyourbusiness

            ^THIS!

          4. Don Escaped Texas

            anybody wrote an article on ancaps lately?

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They’d find a reason to complain if he had informed them too. Heads I win, tails you lose.

    4. Tonio

      ^This. Missions of this sort are clearly within the purview of the executive as Commander in Chief and do not require congressional approval or notice. And given that Congress is leaky that was an especially prudent move.

      Must really suck to be them, now. Obama: took credit for OBL raid; Trump: credited US Military.

    5. Rebel Scum

      Why the fuck would the speaker of the House require that info? She ain’t the CnC.

    6. Rasilio

      I seem to have missed the part where the President is required to seek the advice and consent of the House in regards to military matters.

  30. PieInTheSky

    So I watch occasional commentary on YouTube about NBA. For some reason, yesterday YouTube recommended to me a video of Colin Cowheard making NFL predictions. Out of sheer curiosity I looked today on the accuracy

    Giants Lions prediction 29 – 28 reality 26 – 31

    colts Broncos prediction 27 – 20 reality 15 – 13

    Jaguars jets prediction 24 – 28 reality 29 – 15

    49erc panthers prediction 27 – 26 reality 51 – 13

    Texans raiders prediction 31 21 reality 27 – 24

    Not that close… also all predictions were fairly close scores in the 20s… Just by that they seem unlikely to be right, looking at the results, though I know little of the sport, the scores are all over the place, not so tightly grouped

    Anyhoo

    1. DOOMco

      https://youtu.be/9l5C8cGMueY

      It’s interesting how some scores are so common.
      I assume there’s a bit of this coming into play for people predicting scores.

      1. Jarflax

        Football scores are multiples of 7 plus multiples of 3 90% of the time. 21, 24, 27, 28, 31, are going to be common

  31. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloop! And a Happy Monday to the rest of you cretins, cretinettes and cretinx!

    I apologize in advance for nothing.

    Fucking right! And so show my appreciation I won’t link anything, thereby not fucking up the rest of your week.

    Except for this. You probably wouldn’t have included the ‘Burbs anyway…

    I hope you all have a profitable and productive day!

    1. PieInTheSky

      Bullshit they just use a ton of lotion / Bill Burr

      1. Pat

        Rent Knock Knock and thank me later. Bottom shelf bourbon I like.

    2. Gdragon

      I mean, she does crush her 10 years younger NBA player husband in workouts if Gatorade commercials are to be believed and not just trying to be woke af 😉

  32. Certified Public Asshat

    Chuck Schumer’s Plan To Bring Back Cash For Clunkers Ignores How Much That Scheme Sucked

    Who has ideas worse than Chuck Schumer? Random internet dudes:

    The only way this could work, to protect the poor at least, would be “cars for clunkers”; with the govt making a dirt cheap, basic electric car (no radio, manual windows, manual locks, one color -hopefully yellow or electric neon pink-, etc) and just flat out giving to anyone who can nurse their clunker onto a dealer’s lot. Sure, cash towards a more expensive new car if they don’t want the basic car, but a basic car nonetheless. But you can imagine how FOX will froth and howl if you start giving the poors a free car.

    1. Count Potato

      Were people always this stupid and we just didn’t know?

    2. PieInTheSky

      The scheme sucks or not depending on it’s purpose.

    3. Suthenboy

      ” This is a well-intentioned plan and the goal of increasing EV adoption is a good one.”

      No, it isn’t and no, it isn’t either.

    4. Tundra

      First comment:

      As an owner of 2 EVs, both of which are mostly trapped in the garage right now, I will go on record as a California resident: I will keep an ICE vehicle as long as I possibly can, as backup.

      Unreal.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        I think they get it at least (?). Even if they don’t, good lesson for everyone else.

    5. Pat

      Ladas for Clunkers?

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        At least Stossel will never run out of material.

        1. When I run out of gas, I can just pull one out of the trunk and drive to the nearest service station to full up a can and drive back to my car, put the tata in the trnk and get on my way.

    6. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Cash for clunkers killed a lot of the interesting cars from the 80s and 90s and drove up the prices of used cars to stupid levels thereby hurting the poor. The last thing we need is another one.

    7. Sensei

      Frédéric Bastiat says “Non!”

      However, most modern French speakers say “Mais oui bien sûr!”

      1. Gadfly

        Well, most of Bastiat’s French-speaking contemporaries would have said the same, so “Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.”

    8. DrOtto

      Any number of comments on that alleged car enthusiast site explain why I quit reading it years ago. Car and Driver is slowly starting down that road as well.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        I’d say Jalopnik is still 60/40 “conservative.” And always entertaining when the Splinter (rot in hell) and Jezebel crowds get crossed up.

    9. creech

      Seriously? I remember telling a prog friend about ten years ago that their expansion of so-called rights would eventually end up with giving the poor a free car because transportation was a “right.” She laughed and thought I was delusional. I will go out on a limb and say the next decade will see progs demanding that the poor be given free vacations to Disneyworld because their kids are embarrassed when their classmates go and they can’t.

  33. PieInTheSky

    Apparently Bronze Age Perverts essay caused a whole bunch of articles for this Claremont Institute thing.

    https://americanmind.org/features/conservatism-in-the-bronze-age/

    For some strange reason, my mind associates the pseudonym Second City Bureaucrat to our own UCS, probably the government connection . Also I may have read something by this Tara Isabella Burton before. Hmmmm

    1. If I’m not mistaken “Second City” refers to Chicago, which is a place I’ve never been. I in fact made a hundred mile detour to avoid driving through that city going to Milwaukee to Indianapolis.

      1. PieInTheSky

        He is, indeed, from Chicago

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Give us another chance

    President-elect Fernández is a lawyer who previously served as the chief of the cabinet of ministers, a position similar to prime minister, under former President Néstor Kirchner and his wife. Fernández is considered a moderate Peronist – the populist, corporatist ideology that has largely dominated the country’s politics since the movement’s inception at the end of World War II. It takes its name from Argentina’s former President Juan Domingo Perón and his second wife Evita Perón.

    Fernández assumes office on December 10. He’s promised to improve wages and benefits and to pay back the IMF loan taken out by his predecessor.

    Argentina is what Elizabeth Warren wants America to be.

    1. Argentina is what Elizabeth Warren wants America to be.

      White pretending to be latin?

      1. Nein, dahlink, vee are all Latinos und Latinas!

    2. Suthenboy

      If we keep doing the same stupid shit over and over again eventually it will work like we want it to.

      1. peachy rex

        “populist, corporatist ideology”

        So, Fascism? All they’re missing is the militarism, and that’s only because they still haven’t recovered from ’82.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          Peronists. Basically Nazis without the race obsession.

          1. Gadfly

            That would describe Fascism in it’s original sense (Mussolini). And given how many Italians settled in Argentina, it’s not surprising that such an ideology would find fertile ground.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Speaking of, the Peronists are back in power in Argentina as of today. I can hear the next default coming already.

  35. Rasilio

    In the NFL, the Seahawks, Eagles, Chargers, Lions, Titans, Colts, Rams, Saints, Jags, 49ers, Texans (poor JJ Watt), and Packers won.

    Hmmm there seems to be something missing here, I mean it is almost like someone let us down again.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      When your offense hands the ball off to the defense, you do not get a mention anymore.

    2. Nephilium

      Hush. It was bad enough watching it yesterday.

    3. Drake

      Firing Belicheck should become a legend like the curse of the Bambino. The only problem is that the old Browns left town and became the Ravens. Somehow the curse stayed in Cleveland.

      1. PieInTheSky

        I read that the patriots hiring Belicheck was also a mistake

        https://twitter.com/oldtakesexposed/status/1158159357135249408?lang=en

        1. Drake

          That’s pretty funny – comparing him to that loser Pete Carroll, who went on to coach multiple National Championship teams then came back to the NFL to win a Superbowl.

        2. Rasilio

          That has got to be one of the most concentrated examples of wrong in the history of sports. I gotta admit I was skeptical of the Belicheck hire at the time, not because of Belicheck but rather because the pats had to give up a first round pick in compensation to the Jets for signing him. I didn’t believe any head coach was really worth a 1st round pick

          1. Drake

            I was mad about the pick, ticked at Parcells, and still miffed that they had fired Carroll who showed real promise.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Were people always this stupid and we just didn’t know?

    The world was a better pace when we had common sense printing press control.

    1. Drake

      It was better when Chuck Darwin did a better job weeding out the stupid before they reproduced.

  37. Derpetologist

    On the one hand, I’m grumpy because I had to get up at 0430 to piss in a cup. On the other hand, it afforded me the chance to read a transcript of possibly the greatest presser ever.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/27/773842999/read-trump-statement-on-baghdadis-death

    ***
    THE PRESIDENT: We spoke to the Russians.

    Q: What did you tell them you were going to do?

    THE PRESIDENT: We told them we’re coming in.

    Q: Okay.

    THE PRESIDENT: And they said, “Thank you for telling us.” They were very good.

    Q: But did you tell them why? No? You just —

    THE PRESIDENT: No. They did not know why.

    Q: Was the pullout of the U.S. troops in Syria last month strategically tied in with this raid? Was it —

    THE PRESIDENT: No, no, the pullout —

    Q: Is this a red herring?

    THE PRESIDENT: Right. Sure. It’s a great question. And you’re doing a great job, by the way. Your network is fantastic. They’re really doing a great job. Please let them know.

    Q: Yes, sir. Thank you.

    Q: You sent out your tweet last night. At what moment did you decide to send that?

    THE PRESIDENT: So, I sent that right after I knew they had landed safely.

    Q: When they had returned?

    THE PRESIDENT: Right. And that was to notify you guys that you have something big this morning, so you wouldn’t be out playing golf or tennis, or otherwise being indisposed.
    ***

    El. Oh. El.

    1. Count Potato

      I can’t believe there are still people who do not want to re-elect this guy.

      1. robc

        My reason to not vote for him the first time hasn’t changed. He is still the guy destroyed the USFL.

      2. I’d vote for him twice to make up not voting for him the first time. I love being able to laugh with genuine, non-bitter humor at press conferences.

    2. Fourscore

      “because I had to get up at 0430 to piss in a cup”

      I thought you lived off post, no?

  38. Derpetologist

    Elsewhere on NPR

    https://www.npr.org/2019/10/27/773791704/u-s-targets-isis-locations-in-syria-attack

    ***
    Trump, who is facing an impeachment inquiry over allegations that he abused his office to help himself politically, spoke in dramatic and incendiary language about the killing of Baghdadi, taking more than 40 minutes of questions from reporters and describing the raid in boastful terms.

    At one point, Trump even suggested that Baghdadi’s death was more important than the mission ordered by President Obama in 2011 that resulted in the death of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

    Trump then repeated his false claim that he predicted bin Laden was a threat before anyone else. “If they would’ve listened to me, a lot of things would have been different,” Trump said Sunday.
    ***

    Oh, NPR. Never change.

    1. Not Adahn

      They had a former official on this morning telling us that this type of raid will never be possible again because the pullout of troops means we will never be able to get intel.

    2. Trump, who is facing an impeachment inquiry over allegations that he abused his office to help himself politically, spoke in dramatic and incendiary language about the killing of Baghdadi, taking more than 40 minutes of questions from reporters and describing the raid in boastful terms.

      I called this shit last night. NPR is implying that Trump used the raid to distract from the impeachment inquiry kabuki theater. I mean, seriously, they can’t just write the facts of what happened without not just injecting their own spin but offering up their own little op-eds within the piece. It’s totally ridiculous. They’re writing historical fiction masquerading as unbiased fact in order to manipulate their readers, then they have the gall to feign indignation when Trump calls them “the enemy of the people”. I’m sorry, but the media has been villainous scum for decades.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        NPR is a New England liberal echo chamber.

        1. Not Adahn

          Is it? With all the vocal fry, I figured it was culturally dominated by their Cali bureau. Although their weekend “sports” show is out of Boston.

        2. I used to not hate NPR because they had interesting programming on now and again, but I can’t handle it these days. It’s extraordinarily difficult to find news reporting that isn’t total ass, which rules out NPR, and their entertainment side is pretty godawful these days, too.

          1. Akira

            We need a movement to get government funding away from NPR pronto.

      2. creech

        I’m surprised NPR hasn’t accused Trump of colluding with Russia to murder this austere religious scholar.

    3. R C Dean

      allegations that he abused his office to help himself politically

      Still waiting for somebody to cite me the U.S. Code criminal statute that he is supposed to have violated.

  39. tarran

    My dad passed away on Saturday.

    It was a relief. Watching him fight for each breath was excruciating.

    The hospice staff was great. They got him the drugs he needed for the pain.

    Now comes the nasty part – disposing of his property. He made a complete pigs’ breakfast of his estate planning. And certain family members are expressing greedy thoughts as to how the property should be divided. And the amount of money is substantial enough to make a brutal fight seem worthwhile. I’m going to do my best to keep that from happening though the only tool I have is moral authority and a stubborn refusal to ally with anyone.

    I’m kind of lucky; he treated me like crap for much of my life. He even disowned me just before I went into the Navy. Then he backtracked. He was a man of utter contradictions – sometimes doing the right thing despite substantial danger to his life – other times doing the most infuriatingly selfish things. I seemed to bring out the worst in him. I therefore kept myself on the periphery of his life. The people who were tight with him are all devastated. And the different contradictory compartments are starting to run together. My brother is speculating with humorous trepidation about the number of women who sincerely believe that they were “the one” in his life who will meet each other for the first time at the memorial service.

    On the last day, holding his hand, waiting for the next fifteen seconds of consciousness that came every three hours or so, I realized that many of the contradictions made sense if he had really never fully grown up – if he were emotionally a twelve year old in an adult body. That was how old he was when his dad died. That was how old he was when – despite being the fourth son – thanks to accident, suicide and illness he, in a few months, went from the baby of the family to being the eldest male of the family and, by social custom, its head. That’s how old he was when his childhood brutally ended and the family fortune went from prosperity and being upper class to a dive towards poverty.

    He was a brilliant physicist. Yet he had very few papers to his name; he was so terrified of rejection he would work on a paper for ten years – perfecting it before he would submit it. A number of times someone else beat him to the punch because he took so long.

    He played a big role in designing some of the most advanced sensors used by the U.S. military. The company he helped found is at the heart of some of the most scary stuff in the U.S. arsenal. But he also participated in the anti-war movement. He was one of a handful of republicans living in the People’s Republic of Cambridge. He was honored by the city government for his work with people in prison, probably the only person in the room that wasn’t a hardcore democrat.

    He inspired me, sometimes through his example, sometimes through a desire to not follow his example, to become the man I am now. Our distant relationship was necessary for my sanity. Nonetheless I regret it terribly. I just wish that he had been a more consistently better man, that he hadn’t been so cruel towards me. We could have been very good friends.

    He was the last of his generation. There are a million stories of my grandfather, my aunts and uncles that now have died with him.

    Now all that’s left are old photographs – some of whom have no names.

    The memories are disintegrating in fire as I write this.

    I feel odd; nothing has changed, yet everything is different.

    1. l0b0t

      May his memory be a blessing. Thank you for sharing your emotions with us in this painful time.

    2. Count Potato

      Sorry for your loss 🙁

    3. Sensei

      Sorry tarran. Family can be tough.

      In my case I’m an only child and not looking forward to dealing with this in the future. OTH, my wife’s family is larger and they get a along. But they still have tensions over dealing with her parents in assisted living. I can’t imagine trying to deal with this when there is overt hostility.

    4. PieInTheSky

      RIP. Sorry for your lose, seems to have been an eventful life…

    5. leon

      My condolences Tarran.

    6. Sean

      My condolences.

      My brother is speculating with humorous trepidation about the number of women who sincerely believe that they were “the one” in his life who will meet each other for the first time at the memorial service.

      Baller.

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      My condolences

    8. Tundra

      Sorry, tarran.

      I’m glad you were able to be there for him at the end.

    9. Rufus the Monocled

      My condolences.

      And holy crap your story mirrors mine in so many ways.

      1. We’re not saying BEAM’s an alien, but . . .

        . . . holy crap your story mirrors mine in so many ways . . .

        Mine too.

        Good luck, tarran. It sounds like your family’s gearing up for a good ol’ fashioned contesting of a Last Will and Testament. I missed that when I was my Mom’s executor, but it could’ve been really, really ugly.

    10. straffinrun

      Condolences, Tarran. Thanks for sharing that.

    11. My condolences. Thank you for writing this.

    12. Condolences. May you be stronger for this experience.

      When someone close dies, everything in the world seems so petty and you really don’t care about anything else.

    13. DEG

      I’m sorry tarran.

    14. Shirley Knott

      Condolences, Tarran.
      You wrote movingly, and well. As Iob0t said, may your memories of him be a blessing.

      1. creech

        Sorry for your loss. Don’t let his memory be tarnished by squabbles over the will. Either he made designated inheritances – and, if so, they should be respected by all his heirs – or he didn’t, in which case the laws of your state will distribute his assets and no one should be angry with you or siblings or anyone else.

        1. The inheritance squabbles tend to two categories – people who want to sell certaina ssets and split the cash vs people who want to keep it buy can’t afford to (or don’t want to) buy out the other heirs… or squabbles over little things that make no sense to outside observers but get just as acrimonious. That’s excluding those who rush in and pilfer stuff from the house before the executor can get there.

      2. Festus

        +1 what Shirley said.

    15. Drake

      Been there – sorry he’s gone. Glad he’s done suffering.

      Did your Dad have a will and name an Executor / Personal Representative to settle? If no, that’s ugly. My wife’s family had some rough times going through probate and all that nonsense. My Dad set things up pretty well before he passed (Mom’s still alive) and I’ve told my siblings (I’m the oldest) that we will have none of that when Mon goes.

    16. Fourscore

      My heart goes out to you, Tarran.

      I hope the estate settlement goes easier than the growing up part of life.

      My son, 57, said some grown up words the last time I saw him, a month a go. We have been watching my daughter go through a very ugly marriage and now divorce.

      Though I had divorced their mother when they were young and had gotten full custody, my son hugged me and said, “I’m glad we had a stable family”. I knew he understood that I had did my best to provide that life for them, even if they didn’t think so sometimes when they were growing up.

      I hope I have my estate planning done properly, as well

    17. Akira

      Sorry to hear that, man. That’s some heavy stuff.

      As an aside, that sounds like top-notch novel material.

    18. blackjack

      Sorry for your losses, man. Deep writings. I hope someone writes that honestly about me when I go.

  40. Winston

    https://www.libertarianism.org/columns/why-1619-matters-2019

    If initiatives like The 1619 Project can help Americans better understand their history and institutions then they should be applauded. I’ve yet to read the 1619 essay collection in full, and I’m sure that I’ll have some disagreements with some of its contributors. The essay on the link between slavery and the “brutality of American capitalism” looks ripe for educated criticism.

    Uh huh.

    Also of course the Confederate iconclasts will never go after the Bill of Rights because they were written by a slaveowner.

    1. leon

      Picking Articles from Libertariansim.org? That’s like shooting fish in a barrel Winston…

    2. Rhywun

      That whole exercise was nothing less than the NYT pushing for even more racial animosity.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    It was better when Chuck Darwin did a better job weeding out the stupid before they reproduced.

    We won the War Against Running With Scissors, and this is what it got us.

    1. Winston

      Well it gave us Annette Benning.

    2. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

      Yeah, that’s how we got Postal 3. We should’ve thrown the match.

      1. Until the announcement of Postal 4, I didn’t realize 3 was the results of a different company taking over and screwing up.

  42. Playa Manhattan

    I slept with the windows open per usual. It smells absolutely horrible here. Like somebody shit on a campfire.

    https://abc7.com/getty-fire-evacuation-map-mandatory-orders-school-closures/5653001/

    https://twitter.com/michaeljduarte/status/1188747030899724289?s=20

    1. Count Potato

      The smell of burning ass hair?

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Probably. The fire is in the exact same place as the one 2 years ago that started at a homeless encampment in the shadow of $15 million houses in Bel Air. It captures the essence of CA perfectly.

    2. I finally reached a nighttime temperature where I could keep the house closed up.

      That reminds me, I need to buy new filters for the furance before winter arrives. The one in there was from the latter half of last winter.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        MERV 17+ or don’t bother.

        1. Not sure what that means. I’ve been using These guys.

          1. Tundra

            My HVAC told me to stop using those. Too restrictive for the system. He told me to buy the cheap ones and change them monthly.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            This. The filters are to keep the system clean, not to protect you from sub-microscopic dust.

            Want a clean house? Mop and vacuum your floors regularly.

          3. Yusef Adama

            Bingo!

          4. Monthly? Not going to happen. I’m lucky I can remember to change them at all.

          5. Playa Manhattan

            I got a system that’s meant to have a thick filter. It really helps the wife and kids with allergies and asthma.

            Rather than a timer, the system measures the static pressure on each side of the filter, and when the gradient gets above a certain threshold, it alerts me to change it.

          6. Fancy. How much did that cost?

          7. Playa Manhattan

            It’s the newest Lennox system, so….

          8. Ah. “New Roof” or higher.

          9. Playa Manhattan

            Yes, but it makes sense from a tax perspective. I’ve exceeded the capital gains exemption threshold for my house. Any improvements step up the basis, and I’ll get it back on the other end.

      2. Yusef Adama

        Shame UCS, get it done…

        1. The furnace hasn’t been running.

          It’s not like I have central air.

    3. PieInTheSky

      Only one who read I read I spelt with the widows?

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Good luck, tarran.

  44. I may have posted this before, but I may have dreamt I posted it.

    Moving.

    I do not know when we are moving. I only know that, as an anti-packrat, I am nearly frothing with glee at the thought of all the purging I will do. Sell? Thrift? I don’t know. I’m getting rid of things I’ve carried around for 20-30 years because they had sentimental value to me. They don’t anymore, but then again, I haven’t taken most of my art and wall decor out of its tubs since we moved in here 14 years ago, so I guess it’s not important to me at all. Is this common?

    The last time I had to break down Mt. Boxmore, I just posted on Craigslist that I had boxes people were free to come and get. Now, when I need boxes, I go on Craigslist and find people selling boxes for $1 each. Fuck you. I can get new moving boxes at Walmart for between 50¢ for small and $1.50 for new. My old standby for boxes is U-Line, which is cheaper than Walmart, but they charge shipping. A lot of shipping.

    My hoarding tax deductions are also purging. I am pleased.

    I will be so glad to be out of this money pit/piece of shit house.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      But the memories…

      1. Mostly not good.

    2. l0b0t

      Don’t pay for boxes. Your local liquor store throws away fantastic, heavy-weight boxes every day. They will happily let you take as many as you please. Ditto your local supermarkets.

      1. Tundra

        Apple boxes are excellent for moving.

        1. But then you have to unload a ton of overpriced computer hardware.

          1. Pat

            Underrated

          2. I’ve heard even Mac zealots complain about the poor quality of late. When I can get the same internals for a fraction of the price without the snazzy paint job, it’s overpriced.

          3. Pat

            Agreed 100%, I meant your comment was underrated.

          4. I needed a MacBook for work (upload ebooks to iBooks via iTunes Producer). I got lucky finally and a client wanted his uploaded there, so he loaned me an old one of his. My husband was able to update it so it would be able to run outdated software (or something—I don’t understand how that walled garden works that you can’t get around it somehow).

            Then my client died while it was still in my possession. I called his assistant to see how she was doing and she was a mess because his brothers were figting over the estate. The particular thing that had her frazzled was that she couldn’t find his fourth Mac. I said, “Oh, I have it.” She said, “Keep it. It’ll serve them right. But now I know where it is, so I don’t have to worry about it anymore.”

          5. Let me rephrase.

            I know how the walled garden works and Apple’s aggressive use of planned obsolescence.

            I don’t understand why people wail about it with no attempt to get around it. Mine was an nth generation when I got it and that was 6 years ago.

            My husband also built me a Hackintosh, which is running a Mac OS on a PC with a dual boot. I just didn’t like using it because I hate his desk.

          6. I just didn’t like using it because I hate his desk.

            I laughed, then I realized I’m very particular about the ergonomics and layout of my workspace and don’t like sitting at other people’s desks even just to troubleshoot.

          7. Pat

            I don’t understand why people wail about it with no attempt to get around it.

            The sort of people who are purchasing Apple computers are generally the sort who don’t to look under the hood, so to speak.

          8. It does keep nagging me to upgrade to the latest OS, which I KNOW will break it, so I haven’t but the notifications just suck.

            Fortunately, I only have to use it once in a while.

        2. That’s what my husband said, then he went to fetch some.

          “Sorry, they go as fast as we unload the truck.”

          I didn’t SAY “I told you so,” but I was thinking it.

        3. Playa Manhattan

          I can’t fit all of my stuff in a laptop box.

      2. Rasilio

        find a 24 hour walmart and go in between midnight and 2 am when they are restocking the shelves. You will find plenty of broken down boxes they will let you just take

    3. Nephilium

      Lots of free boxes at most liquor stores (at least here in Ohio).

    4. I used my Uhaul boxes as furnature for years. I just recently replaced the stack I’d been using as a table to hold up my mousepad with a real table, three and a half years after I moved in…

    5. DEG

      A cousin of mine likes Freecycle for getting rid of things that won’t sell, like old boxes. You might be able to get some there.

    6. Gender Traitor

      Mr. GT & I are notorious. Useful Box hoarders – our garage would make your skin crawl. At work, I can’t bring myself to throw away empty cases from printer/copy paper reams. They’re sturdy & perfect for books. Know anyone who works in an office who could snag some for you?

      1. Make sure they work private sector. “Stealing” empty boxes, trash or recyclables from a government workplace is grounds for termination.

        1. Gender Traitor

          How ’bout if I ask real nice & say “please?” Srsly.

          1. Look, those empt boxes are state property, you can’t just take them home, even if we’re just going to toss them in the bin for the overpriced contractor to throw in the landfill.

          2. Gadfly

            Look, those empty boxes are state property, you can’t just take them home, even if we’re just going to toss them in the bin for the overpriced contractor to throw in the landfill resell on Craigslist at $1 apiece.

            What I imagine is really happening.

          3. Fun fact, the Office of General Service maintains a website where it sells old state furnature and computer hardware.

            I don’t think they officially sell old boxes though.

            Once there was a whole morgue freezer up for sale.

          4. R C Dean

            Once there was a whole morgue freezer up for sale.

            We have one of those that is not currently being used. It has the bodies go in sideways, rather than lengthways; it bears an uncanny resemblance to a big commercial pizza oven. I suspect it could be repurposed as a barbecue smoker.

          5. Akira

            I worked at a prison for 15 months. When they had excess furniture that no nearby prisons wanted, they would just destroy it.

          6. Funny, we have Prisons making furnature for State offices.

            It’s Corcraft.

    7. Pat

      I haven’t taken most of my art and wall decor out of its tubs since we moved in here 14 years ago, so I guess it’s not important to me at all. Is this common?

      I have shit in boxes that I packed in 2008. Went through a period there where the living situation was a bit impermanent so it wasn’t really practical to unpack, and even though I’m basically settled where I am now it still kind of feels that way. I’d move tomorrow if I could, so I guess I’ve kind of kept it in the back of my mind that I’d rather leave it packed until some undetermined future date when the stars all align and I hit the lotto and move into a better place.

      1. Pat

        I actually just made a somewhat impulsive splurge purchase of a watch that, while I love it and got it for a great price, I have absolutely no immediate need for as I have 2 nice watches sitting in one of the aforementioned boxes. So I was just contemplating this exact thing the other day. It’s supposed to be delivered today and I already have buyer’s remorse. I’ll probably resell it. I should be able to pocket 50 bucks off it even after fees.

        1. I try to follow a rule: see something, want something, wait a few days (weeks) to see if I still want it or have forgotten about it. I usually forget about it but sometimes I will obsess about it until I get it, at which point, I regret it.

          Lately that hasn’t been a problem because I haven’t had any money, but I’ve waited SOOOOO long that the obsession wore off.

          1. Pat

            Well, when I say “somewhat impulsive”, basically I’ve been stalking this watch for a several months, one popped up on eBay poorly titled so it got very little bidding, and the price was so good that I felt almost obligated to buy it.

            The full story is that I have had a crush on the (pre-ceramic bezel) red/blue “Pepsi” Rolex GMT Master since I was in high school. I will never be able to afford one, and couldn’t justify the splurge to myself even if I could. About a year ago I ran across a very sexy homage watch that I can *technically* afford, but it feels like a really stupid way to spend the money, and now I own one because the deal seemed too good to pass up and I’m back to feeling like it was a really stupid way to spend the money.

          2. R C Dean

            I saw exactly my dream watch months ago, and didn’t bookmark it. Moonphase, with dates around the outside of the dial and a cool wavy pointer with a crescent at the end showing the dates. I now can’t recall what it was, but search watch sites looking for it.

            Punchline: I think its around $25K list. No way I will ever buy it.

          3. Pat

            Was it the Blancpain Villeret by any chance? Sounds very similar.

          4. R C Dean

            Very close. The one I recall had the dates around the outer dial.

          5. R C Dean

            This is more like it, I think, except I swear the pointer for the dates was wavy.

          6. Pat

            Possibly the GMT variant? Blancpain is the only watchmaker I can think of with the wavy date hand like that, so it’s probably one of theirs at any rate.

          7. R C Dean

            Could be. I’m a little foggy on the details; I usually do this kind of websurfing after I have, err, raised my IQ in the evenings. I could be crossing up a wavier hand from another watch.

            Appreciate the pointer to Blancpain.

          8. Pat

            Since I’m posting grand complication porn, if you ever find yourself with a half million bucks burning a hole in your pocket consider purchasing the Jacquet Droz bird repeater and I will bribe you with the wine or spirit of your choice to come visit.

    8. R C Dean

      I haven’t taken most of my art and wall decor out of its tubs since we moved in here 14 years ago, so I guess it’s not important to me at all. Is this common?

      It is. Most people don’t get rid of stuff until they run out of storage room. What you count as “storage room” is what makes you a hoarder or not.

      We’ve moved every 3 to 5 or so years for awhile now. We would find boxes regularly that had two or even three of the moving company inventory stickers on them. The Casa Dean has no attic or basement, so really no “out of sight out of mind” storage” – its all in the garage in plain view. It took us two rounds to get rid of most of the stuff we haven’t even opened in ten years. And there’s still a few hanging on . . . .

      1. I have got storage space equivalent to two big rooms at a storage facility. When it’s tidy (read: when my son hasn’t trashed it), it’s still half empty. I have kitchen and pantry cabinets that are empty. I take pride in how much stuff I don’t have and it’s STILL too much for my taste.

        It’s why my kids’ hoarding drives me up a wucking fall.

        1. It’s why my kids’ hoarding drives me up a wucking fall.

          If you can aim, try to get to the ceiling near a light fixture that needs changing or a corner that needs dusting.

        2. R C Dean

          The one thing I cannot bring myself to get rid of is just about anything that I have gotten as a gift (other than obvious cheap/semi-disposable stuff).

          1. I get that.

            I still have a wooden frog a former supervisor picked up in Aruba and gave me when he got back. He no longer works anywhere near me, and I have no use for a wooden frog, but tossing gifts makes me feel like a cad.

          2. I get rid of gifts if I don’t feel like the giver was doing anything but grabbing something off a Walgreens shelf at the 11th hour just to say they got me a gift.

          3. R C Dean

            Sounds like obvious cheap/semi-disposable stuff.

      2. As I’m looking around at what I need to get rid of, I have clothes I kept for sentimental value rather than an expectation of wearing it again, one of which is my wedding dress. I’m torn on getting rid of my wedding dress.

        1. Let me be more specific: I made my wedding dress and my mother’s dress, both of which are gorgeous (and won awards at the state fair). I hand-embroidered my wedding dress.

          1. Keep it. You don’t sound like the kind of person who collects marriages, so you’re not going to have more joining it.

        2. Don Escaped Texas

          The tee shirts go: pay that price to give yourself permission to keep the wedding dress.

          Also: you keep hand-made things. As if you were thinning out the Christmas tree ornament collection.

          Not that I throw out anything.

          Also, if you keep stuff, box it separately as keepers (for heirs) and tossers (for the folks who need to know what to throw out when you die).

  45. Rebel Scum

    Yeah, sure.

    O’DONNELL: Some have asked, why hasn’t President Obama endorsed you? You guys served together for eight years.

    BIDEN: Because I have to own– I wanna earn this on my own.

    O’DONNELL: Did he offer to endorse you?

    BIDEN: No, we didn’t even get there. I asked him not to. He said, “Okay.” I think it’s better– I think he thinks it’s better for me. I have no doubt when I’m the nominee he’ll be out on the campaign trail for me.

    1. Playa Manhattan

      I asked Kate Upton not to sleep with me. I think it’s better– I think she thinks it’s better for me.

      1. Gadfly

        Legit LOL at that one.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Always nice to see a young man trying to make it under his own steam.

  46. DEG

    The Post faced serious criticism on social media, but many took the opportunity to poke fun at headline using the hashtag #WaPoDeathNotices – tweeting mock headlines for obituaries of notorious figures from history.

    “Adolf Hitler, dedicated art enthusiast, animal rights activist, and talented orator, dies at 56,” read one.

    “Ted Bundy, meticulous researcher, charismatic figure, and Polaroid enthusiast, dead at 42”, read another, in reference to the infamous serial killer.

    hehehe

    Foster claimed his prize on Friday. After taxes, he went home with $141,501.

    He said some of his winnings will go towards his medical expenses.

    “I have good insurance,” Foster said.

    “But there is still some cost. This will make it a whole lot easier.”

    Not bad at all. Best wishes to him.

  47. Winston

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/597955/

    Psychological factors reinforce the phenomenon of the liberal Democratic city. In his 2008 book, The Big Sort, Bill Bishop argued that Americans were self-segregating by neighborhood, creating balkanized urban areas of kale-munching libs who find Cracker Barrel America culturally incomprehensible. Evidence for Bishop’s thesis is uneven, but there might something to the idea that blue cities get bluer due to sorting effects. As the writer and researcher Will Wilkinson argues, cities are magnets for individuals who score highly on “openness”—the Big Five personality trait that comprises curiosity, love of diversity, and open-mindedness. He points to research showing remarkable concentration of self-described “open” personalities in urban centers around the world, such as London.

    It’s also conceivable that living in a city might naturally promote ideologies that correspond with the modern Democratic Party. The modern city brings its residents into constant interaction with the fact of, and necessity for, state intervention. Urban residents trade cars for public transit, live in neighborhoods with local trash codes, and deal with planning commissions about shadows, ocean views, and parking rights. City residents are natural “externality pessimists,” to use Steve Randy Waldman’s clever phrase, who are exquisitely sensitive to the consequences of individual behavior in a dense place where one man’s action is another man’s nuisance. As a result, residents of dense cities tend to reject libertarianism as unacceptable chaos and instead agitate for wiser governance related to health care, housing policy, and climate change.

    Funny I thought urbanization was supposed to be inherently libertarian, like what Herbert Spencer and Rothbard thought.

    Also how does ooenmindedness lead to the likes of AOC and DeBlasio?

    1. robc

      Cracker Barrel is just not good. Would much rather stop at Waffle House.

      1. Winston

        IHOP 4LYFE!

        1. Not Adahn

          Some day civilization will spread to Canada and you can try Waffle House. They’ll probably make poutine gravy an option for the hash browns.

          1. Try the Poutine. It may sound like an odd combination, but it works.

          2. Not Adahn

            My creperie makes fantastic poutine. It helps that they start with great fries.

          3. My creperie makes fantastic poutine.

            As recently as this morning I’d have bet anyone a thousand dollars that I’d die before I read or heard that sentence.

          4. Not Adahn

            Many Quebecois this close to The Wall.

      2. I have eaten at 3 Cracker Barrels hundreds of miles apart from each other. They were shit. I don’t know if the food is really that bad or if the cooks didn’t follow the recipes right, because the meals seemed botched rather than just bad food.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Cracker Barrel sucks

          1. l0b0t

            I will fight you and Mojeaux right now! Seriously though, I am, at heart, a Waffle House man (I’ve dined at every single Waffle House in the great State of Florida) but wifey worked her way through college as a Cracker Barrel Waitress so now we eat at Cracker Barrel when on the road. The nearest to us is (IIRC) in PA. Cracker Barrel also has the Coutry Store to keep the kids happy AND they are the only place outside of Kentucky to get that sweet nectar of the Bluegrass Gods, Ale-8-One.

          2. There are no waffle houses this far north that I’m aware of.

          3. Nephilium

            We’ve got Waffle Houses here in Ohio.

          4. FEMA has a WFI, Waffle House Index for weather.

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index

          5. Nephilium

            Mojeaux: Having worked with DR (Disaster Recovery) folks, they wish they could be as prepared as Waffle House is for disasters.

          6. I would take you up on that fight, I feel so strongly about how much Cracker Barrel sucks.

          7. l0b0t

            Meh, in all honesty, I would rather meet you at a Waffle House to share a pecan waffle and hash browns served scattered, smothered, covered, diced, chopped, topped, raped & pillaged (the R&P is an off-menu treat wherein they stir scrambled eggs into the hash browns and top them with a sunnyside up egg).

          8. Not Adahn

            Waffle House >> Cracker Barrel

            Honestly, I’ve gotta agree with Mojo — I’ve never had good food at a Cracker Barrel.

          9. Rebel Scum

            Cracker Barrel does kindof suck. Waffle House is the shit.

          10. Rasilio

            You’re not wrong. Cracker Barrel does suck. I mean it is not the worst food on the planet and if you absolutely have to stop and get something on a budget there are worse options but Cracker Barrel has descended to sub Dennys/IHOP levels of quality. 20 years ago however, when they refused to hire the gays their food was actually quite good.

          11. Gender Traitor

            Mr. GT & I have had two musician friends drop dead the night after post-gig Waffle House meals. Musicians should stay away from Waffle House. And off airplanes.

          12. Timeloose

            Waffle House crossed the Mason Dixon Line several years ago. They are as far north as Scranton PA and likely even further. Now if we could just get a Whataburger .

          13. l0b0t

            Oooh… I DO miss Whatburger. Their chicken finger basket is great but what makes it better is that Whataburger is alone amongst the fast food chains in serving gravy with the chicken basket.

          14. Nope. Dairy Queen serves gravy with their chicken strips basket.

          15. Rebel Scum

            Whataburger

            Went to one in Florida. Not bad.

          16. pistoffnick

            Sonic used to sell chicken and fries with gravy. As did Dairy Queen. I haven’t been to either one in years, but that was my favorite.

          17. Not Adahn

            A Sonic opened up off of I87 (exit 7?)

            They needed to redo the intersection, adding an additional lane to deal with the traffic. The Albany area is woefully underserved by good fast food joints.

          18. I can see it from the road, but I don’t see any entrances to their parking lot.

          19. I’ve only eaten at Cracker Barrel four times, and each time was after spending a weekend camping. It was the same one, outside of Hagerstown, and I don’t remember it being especially bad. My opinion might be colored by their willingness to seat four people who look like hobos and smell like old campfires and sweat.

          20. Not Adahn

            There was a fine-dining establishment in Austin called Green Pastures. Not only was their food amazing, their service was impeccable and unflappable. Once on a whim I and a friend stopped by after a just match to have dessert. Rather than scorn at we underdressed underwashed would be patrons, they smilingly seated us behind a pillar where we would not disturb the other diners.

          21. Not Adahn

            judo match, not just march.

          22. I’m amazed at the kinds of establishments I can walk into, ask for a table for one, and get seated without complaint.

            Of course, Waffle House made me seat myself.

          23. pistoffnick

            Heh. A friend and I spent 10 days in the Boundary Waters. We both looked pretty sketchy and smelled rankly. We decided to tour the Soudan underground mine. To get down there you have to ride in an elevator…

    2. Social Justice is Neither

      You get that open minded and there is a propensity for your brains to fall out. The jack booted authoritarianism was always there.

    3. R C Dean

      As the writer and researcher Will Wilkinson argues, cities are magnets for individuals who score highly on “openness”—the Big Five personality trait that comprises curiosity, love of diversity, and open-mindedness. He points to research showing remarkable concentration of self-described “open” personalities in urban centers around the world, such as London.

      Science!

  48. DEG

    After reading this article, I wonder if those of us in NH will have to put up with renewed talk of a broader income tax.

    NH has an income tax by the way.

    I moved to NH in the late 90s just after the state Supreme Court issued their ruling ordering the state legislature and governor to define the cost of an “adequate education”. I got the impression both the Court and Volinsky wanted a broad based income tax even though they claimed, “It’s the legislature’s job to define ‘adequate education’”. The state house passed a broader income tax which the State Senate shot down. Then the State Senate passed their own version of a broader income tax which the State House shot down. Then we got stuck with the state-wide property tax, which if I remember correctly, Shaheen (now US Senator for NH) signed into law.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I say you should aim for a broader progressive tax of 7 to 10 % on all income. Pay your fair share you scrounger

      1. DEG

        My memory is vague, but I think one of the shot down proposals was for a 6% income tax. The other was 5%.

    2. Drake

      I used to think New Hampshire was definitely where I’ll retire. Now I am have serious doubts.

      1. I briefly considered NH on my list of places to move, despite the weather, because of the “Live Free or Die” bit. That doesn’t seem to be so much the case, though. I wonder if it’s a little bit like the Texas thing; they have a certain reputation and cling to it, but in practice they’re subject to the same political winds as everywhere else.

        1. DEG

          HM will probably have an opinion on this.

          New Hampshire isn’t that bad, for now. Gun laws are good. No knife laws. Taxes are actually pretty low. Medical Marijuana is legal, but forget recreational use. Some parts of the state don’t have zoning laws, but there are parts with zoning laws where you need to be careful.

          I think the trends aren’t good. The current governor has swatted down several gun control laws. While there is no talk that I’ve seen about a broad based income tax, I doubt Volinsky and like minded folks have given up their dreams of imposing a broad based income tax on New Hampshire. There are too many Puritans here (Massachusetts is Puritan Central, but that doesn’t mean there are no Puritans elsewhere).

          1. Drake

            Sounds like New Jersey in the early 70’s – a free state that was about to go horribly wrong.

          2. I’m in Maryland, so it’s like night and day compared to here, but I’m looking at where the laws will be in ten, twenty years. Frankly, I’m surprised NH has survived the onslaught of New England Progressivism this long.

    3. DOOMco

      Stupid view tax, too.

  49. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Manic Monday: Most Americans Don’t Know Who The Other People Are

    Americans across all generations have something in common: They are more likely to say President Trump is a bigger threat to world peace than North Korea’s Kim Jong-un, Russia’s Vladimir Putin, China’s Xi Jinping or Venezuela’s Nicolás Maduro, according to a new YouGov poll for the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, a nonprofit educational group.

    1. Pat

      This strikes me as likely to be one of those “everybody I know voted for McGovern” polls.

  50. Rebel Scum

    The mayor said the extension should be used for a public vote on Brexit.

    He says, “It’s time to give the British public the final say on Brexit.”

    As I understand, they already did.

    1. Raven Nation

      I have been reliably informed by a well educated friend that the Russians influenced the Brexit vote.

    2. I think this is one of those things where in England they call something by a name we use for something else. You know how they call potato chips “crisps”, and trucks “lorries”? They must call quizzes “votes” and keep letting the people retake the same one until they get the correct answer.

    3. Rasilio

      Thing is they don’t exactly need to have another Brexit referendum. Where you stand on Brexit has become such a core feature of each party that just having a general election, which they are due for anyway, will suffice.

  51. Winston

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7613617/amp/Americans-want-Amendment-changed-reflect-cultural-norms-today.html

    I always find it interesting that we have inalienable rights yet cultural values constantly evolve and change.

    1. Rebel Scum

      At least they get that you need an amendment in order to police speech. The downside, of course, is that they want to police speech.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        We’ve raised a generation of spineless assholes.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Narcissism.

            The problem with their self-absorbed behaviour is it fosters cynicism and directs anger towards people legitimately need service dogs.

            Wouldn’t surprise if some asshole and sanctimonious pet activist prog yells at a blind person one day.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Trump’s crimes against humanity continue to grow

    After a record-breaking 780 days circling the Earth, the U.S. Air Force’s mysterious X-37B unmanned space plane dropped out of orbit and landed safely on the same runway that the space shuttle once used.

    It was the fifth acknowledged mission for the vehicle, built by Boeing at the aerospace company’s Phantom Works.

    ——-

    As in previous missions, many of the details about the vehicle’s activities in the past two years are being kept under wraps. One experiment was to “test experimental electronics and oscillating heat pipe technologies in the long-duration space environment,” according to the Air Force statement.

    Randy Walden, the director of the Air Force Rapid Capabilities Office, said the latest X-37B mission “successfully hosted Air Force Research Laboratory experiments, among others, as well as providing a ride for small satellites.”

    Walden’s statement sparked a reaction from some, such as Jonathan McDowell, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, who keeps tabs on the registration of satellites.

    “The statement that this @usairforce X-37 flight deployed small satellites is alarming, since the US has not reported those deployments in its UN Registration Convention submissions,” McDowell tweeted. “This would be the first time that either the USA or Russia has blatantly flouted the Convention.”

    Did he get permission from Congress?

    1. Not Adahn

      oscillating heat pipe technologies

      The Air Force is sending vibrating dildos into space?

  53. l0b0t

    Three months ago, I put up a few jars of cherries with some grain alcohol and sugar. I popped one open today. JIMINY CRICKET! They’re strong and a bit too harsh. I think I’ll leave ’em to sit for a couple more months.

    1. pistoffnick

      I used to make Apple Pie Moonshine using grain alcohol. It goes down easy and gets you loopy right quick.

    2. PieInTheSky

      Use bitter cherries a couple of table spoons of honey, just enough grain alcohol to cover, then add 1 L of gin on top after a couple of months. Great results.

      1. Trying to cover the taste of the gin?

        1. PieInTheSky

          if you get a good gin in that combo it give just enough flavor without dominating.

      2. R C Dean

        Or, get Luxardo Maraschino liqueur, put pitted cherries in saucepan, cover with liqueur, bring to a bare simmer, let cool, jar and place in fridge. In a week or so, you will have most excellent maraschino cherries. Some people add a stick or two of cinnamon in the saucepan.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Some people are monsters.

        2. l0b0t

          I already do make my own Maraschinos using Luxardo’s fine elixir (+ lemon juice, vanilla, cinnamon, honey). With these, I was inspired by our Rising Sun glibs’ tales of the Japanese plum concoction but couldn’t find any good plums.

  54. Rebel Scum

    “With all the bad news I’ve been up here letting you know about the past couple weeks, I do have a sliver of good news,” said PG&E meteorologist Scott Strenfel, before saying long-range weather models don’t show any other dangerous wind events in the forecast after this week.

    And the chocolate ration will be increased a couple ounces!

    1. leon

      You’re doing it wrong. You are supposed to increase the chocolate ration to a level below what it currently is.

  55. The Late P Brooks

    Inequality

    A small contingent of private firefighters is protecting the homes of California’s wealthiest as the Kincade and Tick wildfires burn in both northern and southern California.

    The cost is roughly $3,000 a day, and the private firefighters tend to focus on prevention measures, The New York Post reported.

    However, private firefighters are more likely to contract with insurance companies like USAA to offer mitigation services to customers. Sometimes neighborhood associations hire private firefighters, according to The Post.

    Homeowners hiring private firefighters make up about 5% of the industry, David Torgerson of Wildfire Defense Systems told The Los Angeles Times last year.

    Firefighting crews working for insurance companies do not just wait around for the fire to spread to the areas they’re protecting. They often install sprinkler systems and spray retardant, according to The Post.

    Those rich people are stealing fire protection from the poor and middle class. Ban private fire protection.

    1. Fatty Bolger

      “private firefighters are more likely to contract with insurance companies like USAA”
      “They often install sprinkler systems and spray retardant”

      So the evil bastards are raping Gaia for the benefit of evil corporations. So typical.

      1. Rhywun

        Yeah, they only promote “safety” because evul profitz.

        1. You don’t have to pay out on a house that doesn’t burn down.

      2. “They often install sprinkler systems and spray retardant

        I thought lead paint was illegal.

      3. Annoyed Nomad

        USAA is an insurance company for military families. It’s run similar to a credit union – the customers are owners to some extent. So, this could be spun as “support our troops”.

    1. leon

      I got fucked last quarter in the retirement account. Luckily i don’t retire for many many many moons. So i guess i’m just getting them cheeper if i double down on them? It still feels shitty.

      1. R C Dean

        Dollar cost averaging” is your friend, long-term.

        1. This is what I do with my 403(b).

          1. R C Dean

            Any work-based retirement plan works that way, unless you designate your investment option as a money-market fund.

            As I was telling Mrs. Dean over the weekend “Well, I ran some numbers, and it looks like I won’t be able to retire for another 4 years. I had been thinking more 2 years.”

            She asked “Why is that?”

            “Mostly because I spent the first thirty years of my career being a shit money manager.”

          2. Jarflax

            If you really want to depress yourself, go back to age 18 and make very reasonable conservative estimates of what you could have put aside with no real pain, and what it would be worth today.

            For those of you in your 20s, do this as well, but actually save the damn money. Trust me your 50 year old retired millionaire self will thank you.

          3. Generally, I have always had good luck (with everything) when I ask myself, “What would Future Self want me to do?”

          4. R C Dean

            I’ve generally been pretty good about feeding the retirement accounts. My problem is more “I’m an investing idiot.”

          5. Akira

            If you really want to depress yourself, go back to age 18 and make very reasonable conservative estimates of what you could have put aside with no real pain, and what it would be worth today.

            *does a rough estimate of the total dollar amount wasted by smoking 1.5 packs a day at 4 bucks a pack for 5 years*

            Yep.

          6. robc

            I was good into about 2000, then started to work for myself and didn’t add much to retirement until I went to work for the man again in 2015.

    2. Pat

      I swear that I recently was told there was a recession looming large.

      There more than likely is. Equities are still drunk off the last 9 years of currency debasement and are rallying around Fed news that they plan to continue said debasement into eternity. We’re copping Japan’s strategy and likely to suffer the same couple of “lost decades”.

    3. Rasilio

      There is.

      The Stock Market is not a forward looking indicator, it lags the economy at large and so it can only tell you where you have been not where you are going. In fact it is extremely common to have stocks inflate to record high levels in the last few months before the bubble pops as investors look for returns wherever they can find them.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        In fact it is extremely common to have stocks inflate

        That part is true. Some race cars blow up before the finish line; Hitler looked unstoppable going into Russia.

        But stocks are a leading indicator. We buy stocks based on what we think they will earn. Past performance informs that opinion, but forward is king. In the old days people looked for dividends; gains are more important today.

        Think of it this way: if a firm has a change in policy, structure, marketing . . . or there’s a demographic insight that changes its prospects down . . . it tanks because the sell interest dominates until the price is low enough to be a fair value again. It sold off because of the future. If the past were important, you’d hang onto it because you believe that Acme Corp is in charge of the world instead of the other way around.

    4. PieInTheSky

      yeah a recession is quite due imo.

  56. The Late P Brooks

    I have only ever eaten breakfast at Cracker Barrel. I like their french toast.

    1. Rebel Scum

      French? I think you mean Freedom Toast. ///jk

    2. Juvenile Bluster

      Even if you go to Cracker Barrel at lunchtime or dinnertime you’re supposed to get breakfast. I’m not sure why they have other stuff on the menu.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        I like the country fried chicken with white gravy and mashed potatoes. *shrugs*

        1. I’ve only been a few times myself but I seem to recall thinking the pot roast was pretty good.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Dood. Awesome avatar. LMAO.

          2. Thanks, yours is one if the first I remember seeing with the subtle GIF action, so along with Sugarfree you can take some credit.

          3. SugarFree

            It is amazing. You shall be spared in The Great Reckoning.

        2. Country fried chicken, gravy, and mashed potatoes is my go-to everywhere. It’s how I judge a restaurant.

      2. Rasilio

        My wife and daughters are addicted to their chicken& dumplings

    3. This. There’s a reason they serve a breakfast menu at all hours. The key, in my experience, is to aggressively sub out the stuff you dont like. There are a bunch of shit sides, but there are also a bunch of good ones.

  57. Rebel Scum

    Security Footage From Sunday Shows Republicans Storming Closed-Door Chick-Fil-A

    “Let us in! Let us in!” they chanted, banging on the doors and throwing chairs at the windows.

    “The American people have a right to get behind these doors!” cried Rep. Matt Gaetz. “It is unconscionable that an American institution like Chick-fil-A would close its doors to the public for a full 24 hours. No, wait, it’s even longer than that…” Gaetz paused for a few minutes to do some math in his head. “It’s closed for like, 30 hours! No wait…”

    While he continued to try to figure out how long Chick-fil-A is closed each week, given that they close late Saturday night and don’t open until early Monday morning.

    “What goes on in there on Sundays? We have a right to know! Democracy dies in delicious chicken darkness!”

    I’ll be going to Chick-fil-a for lunch, myself.

    1. I mean, can’t they find some Jews and Hindus to take the Sunday shifts? What about Atheists? And it’s not as if the chicken’s gonna mind.

      1. Pat

        And it’s not as if the chicken’s gonna mind.

        You can’t taste racism Christianity

    1. leon

      That’s good. I saw the exchange with zuck where she asked him why Facbook used the Daily Caller, a publication with ties to white supremacy, as a Fact Checker. He told her that all their fact checkers go through third party validation and approval, and it is not done by facebook. “So you think a white supremacist tied news source is a valid fact checker?”. The look on zucks face like “Is this bitch for real?”

      1. Drake

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZwo2KDWHSM

        Parody is redundant at this point.

      2. What are the Daily Caller’s ties to white supremacy? I’m not a regular visitor but I was only aware of it as a largely right-wing site. Or did I just answer my own question?

  58. R C Dean

    Finally, I was able to restore my pre=Gravatar image. What a relief. I tossed and turned all night.

  59. So, speaking of boxes…

    I’ve got to send a black powder rifle to my father-in-law. It’s totally legal to send it through USPS, which is what I plan to do, so that part I’ve got figured out. What I don’t know is *how* to send it. As in, in what do I pack this thing? Anybody have any experience mailing rifles to people?

    1. DEG

      I haven’t shipped any rifles, but have received more than a few.

      Usually folks use a long box and a lot of bubble wrap to wrap the rifle. Make sure the box is packed up tight so the rifle doesn’t move. I’ve seen folks wrap the muzzle and butt end in extra bubble wrap. Don’t use packing peanuts as they can shift and will make a mess when the receiver takes the rifle out. Make sure it isn’t loaded (seriously). If there is a removable bolt, I’ve seen people wrap the bolt separately.

      I’ve heard of a few folks having trouble at the Post Office because of a postal employee that doesn’t know the rules on shipping firearms. It might be a good idea to bring a print-out of the appropriate rules and some way of proving the rifle is one that is legal to ship through the Postal Service.

      1. The strategy I’ve heard is to just hand ’em the box, answer “no” to the questions about it oozing or being radioactive or explosive, and Bob’s your uncle. It’s perfectly legal and it’s none of their business what’s inside. I’ve never had a postal employee ask me what I’m shipping, anyway.

    2. Don Escaped Texas

      FedEx Office has all kinds of custom box sizes

    3. Pat

      Were it me I’d snag a cheap rifle case like this one, slide two USPS game board boxes over each end, and join them in the middle with packing tape. The game board box is one of the standard large flat rate box types. Most post offices have a selection of flat rate boxes in the lobby. If they don’t have the game board size, you can order them for free online at usps.com

      1. R C Dean

        This would be my plan. You might even be able to get the case in a box.

    4. speaking of boxes

      I love this place. Only here I can post about something as mundane as boxes, essentially vomiting words upon you all, have a semi-serious discussion about it and then it turns into a serious info-seeking question.

      1. Pat

        We take our mundanity VERY seriously.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    Knives out

    The nervousness among Democratic establishment figures about the quality of the 2020 primary field has prompted mockery from liberal activists who say that the wealthy are worried about losing their power.

    There have been a slew of reports that Democrats like Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Michael Bloomberg are thinking of jumping into the race at the last minute because they believe the current crop of top candidates — Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, and Bernie Sanders — won’t be able to defeat President Trump.

    ——-

    “It’s not like Barack Obama is waiting in the wings where you have a different policy set but he’s a once-in-a-generation political talent,” he said. “You got like Hillary Clinton getting spicy on Twitter, saying, ‘Don’t tempt me to run again.’ What are you talking about? You lost.”

    ——-

    Many dismissed the idea that party donors and leaders were sincerely concerned about electability, pointing to polls showing that most of the Democratic field handily defeats Trump in fictitious match-ups.

    “What I think is really going on here is corporate CEOs and donors are whispering in the ears of their friends from yesteryear because their ability to game the system and rip off consumers would go down if an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders was president. They want someone they’re more familiar with,” said Adam Green, co-founder of Progressive Change Committee and former leader of the Draft Warren campaign for Senate in 2011.

    Circular firing squad, assemble!

    1. Akira

      Many dismissed the idea that party donors and leaders were sincerely concerned about electability, pointing to polls showing that most of the Democratic field handily defeats Trump in fictitious match-ups.

      HAHAHAH! In 2016, didn’t almost all of those polling agencies give Hillary a 90+ percent chance of winning??

  61. Fatty Bolger

    Extraordinary fossils show how mammals rose from the dinosaurs’ ashes

    When the researchers looked back through the climate record, they found that these three bursts of mammal evolution seem to coincide with temperature increases of about 5°C. This suggests that the rise of mammals was helped along by a more tropical climate that enhanced plant growth and hence increased the food supply for animals, says Lyson.

    Having such a detailed picture of the way ecosystems recovered after the last extinction event may help us predict what will happen following the sixth mass extinction, which some experts believe is happening now as a result of rapid climate change, says Gregory Webb at the University of Queensland, Australia.

    1. R C Dean

      the sixth mass extinction, which some experts believe

      “I’m not saying its climate change, but . . . .”

  62. Today’s earworm. Yes, it’s SixxAM, again. https://youtu.be/OsBRzyg9RMQ

    1. Raston Bot

      i had no idea he branched out.

      1. Between Motley and SixxAM, he was in Brides of Destruction, but I missed that era. More than Crue, I have been a Nikki Sixx fan since my tweens, so when I heard about Heroin Diaries, my husband got it for me for Christmas, and then I listened to the soundtrack and loved it. As MikeS said, it’s a great album front to back.

        I have found that I prefer the “softer” business of hard rock over heavy metal. I don’t consider SixxAM to be heavy metal (especially if you listen to “Modern Vintage”).

  63. The Late P Brooks

    Having such a detailed picture of the way ecosystems recovered after the last extinction event may help us predict what will happen following the sixth mass extinction, which some experts believe is happening now as a result of rapid climate change, says Gregory Webb at the University of Queensland, Australia.

    Yes, of course.

    1. Fatty Bolger

      I swear that these periodicals must have guidelines requiring that every article include a mention of climate change. Even when it appears to contradict something earlier in the article, apparently.

  64. Certified Public Asshat

    A Father not taking his son to a baseball game, let alone a World Series game, is perhaps the worst indictment of a “family man” I’ve ever heard. I have a feeling Trump could have gotten Barron a ticket, if he got tickets for Scalise and Gaetz.— Rob Anderson for Louisiana (@RobAnderson2018) October 28, 2019

    I’ve taken my kids to baseball games and they can’t wait to leave.

    1. That came pretty close to saying “…is child abuse.”

      SMDH

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      George HW Bush took W to all kinds of baseball games, and look how that turned out.

    3. leon

      Geeze. That’s pathetic.

    4. Raston Bot

      1. it’s a school night
      2. he’s probably a Yankees fan

    5. Rhywun

      Oh yay another fake outrage.

    6. Baseball is boring. There, I said it. The only reason to go is to drink beer outside near a lawn. You know what I didn’t want to do when I was a kid? Sit and watch baseball for two hours.

      1. Pat

        I had a lot of fun attending a few shitty local AAA games and a couple of Mariners games when I was a kid. The ballpark just kind of has a vibe. The game is mostly irrelevant.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    A Father not taking his son to a baseball game, let alone a World Series game, is perhaps the worst indictment of a “family man” I’ve ever heard.

    If Trump had taken the kid to the game, people would be bitching about him cruelly forcing a gender stereotype on him.

    1. “Trump Accused of Using Office to Secure World Series Tickets”

  66. The Late P Brooks

    “Trump Accused of Using Office to Secure World Series Tickets”

    That’s how you emolument.

  67. blackjack

    I had to drive right through the getty fire this morning.we were the last bit of traffic before they closed the road. Miraculously made it work exactly on time. If I’d have left 5 minutes later, I’d have had to drive two hours to get around it. Lotta flames and smoke and fire trucks.

  68. ron73440

    Test