In 1861 – Texas voted to secede from the Union as part of the War Between the States. . . . Texas hasn’t really talked about secession lately, or has it?
My dad had a few “Songs of the Civil War” records when I was little, so this song was kind of worn into my frail little mind. On Feb 1, 1862 “The Battle Hymn of the Republic,” by Julia Ward Howe was first published in the “Atlantic Monthly.”
Now onto . . . the Links! Which I realize are just an opening for off-topic comments, so go ahead.
Enforcing immigration law – bad idea, or what?
A judge, a prosecutor and a law professor agreed that arresting undocumented immigrants at American courthouses scares away witnesses and crime victims and must be stopped. The three made their case at a program Jan. 25 at the American Bar Association’s Midyear Meeting in Las Vegas titled “Putting ICE on Ice?”
I guess there’s some game going on this weekend? I’d go to a watch party if I knew of one, otherwise weekend plans chez Humungus/Flashman are swimming, painting, and wine /whiskey consumption. Anyhoo, here’s a sport link for you all:
Last year, Nevada sportsbooks took in a record $158.5 million in handle on the Super Bowl — a number that’s expected to be shattered this year. Our comprehensive Super Bowl LIII betting guide is below to help you with all of your wagering needs.
A presidential campaign featuring another public figure? Ah well, it’s nothing without marketing, and getting employees to handle some of the campaign spin shouldn’t hurt, right? Sorry, from Huffpo. Here’s a tip: How about answering “I just work here ” ?
Starbucks is doing what it can to prepare employees for potentially uncomfortable customer encounters as anger grows at former CEO and chairman Howard Schultz, who is considering running for president as an independent centrist candidate.
The coffee chain’s “Barista Need-To-Know” update for the week of Jan. 21-27 included instructions on how to “diffuse [sic] the situation” should anyone “share aggressive political opinions,” as well as what to do if someone asks about Schultz’s “political intentions.”
Yup, probably covered in earlier links, but this story doesn’t bode well for Free expression. However, the cafe isn’t a state actor, so . . . why not ban Che Guevara shirts, while they’re at it too? Banning the expression of supporting communists would surely start a dialogue on communism, amiright?
SAN MATEO, Calif. (AP) – An award-winning cookbook author and California restaurant owner says anyone wearing a red “Make America Great Again” baseball cap will be refused service at his restaurant.
Diners interviewed by the newspapers said they understood Lopez-Alt’s stance but questioned the hat ban and said he could have found a way to start a dialogue on the issue. On Twitter, many criticized the so-called tolerance of the liberal Bay Area.
And that’s all I got for you. Have to catch up on the crap that piled up in snowmageddon, ttyl glibertariat!
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A judge, a prosecutor and a law professor agreed that arresting undocumented immigrants at American courthouses scares away witnesses and crime victims and must be stopped.
Sanctuary cities have made that the only place ICE can actually get their mitts on them. Maybe you should work it from that end, instead.
I believe this may be my first legitimate first, by Marquess of Queensbury rules. Yay me.
Does it hurt as much as they say?
“If six shots won’t get the taste out, a seventh probably won’t either!”
Balmy sixty degrees out. Feels like spring!
It’s 40 here near STL and had to take the inside liner of my coat out.
An award-winning cookbook author and California restaurant owner says anyone wearing a red “Make America Great Again” baseball cap will be refused service at his restaurant.
In California, it is illegal to discriminate against someone because of their political views. Can’t be arsed to run down the actual statute, but I suspect this would be a violation of California law.
Ask James Damore how well that law is enforced.
You’re entitled to your political views, as long as they don’t offend anyone higher on the progressive grievance totem pole than you.
Not a public accommodation issue?
How about if a black female wears the hat? Freedom may not be a protected class but the other two categories are.
Can I wear the hat, stand outside the restaurant and smirk at people while they’re eating?
instructions on how to “diffuse [sic] the situation” should anyone “share aggressive political opinions,”
Spread the hate.
like with a drum?
“Sir, let us offer you a complimentary microwaved greasy egg sandwich, normally priced like it’s made from the ambrosia of the gods, to you as a gesture of good will!”
I assumed diffuse was a tea reference.
Write it on a paper coffee cup.
“X” is a criminally underrated band.
Absolutely true
+10
Their first two albums were great.
Never heard of ‘e.m. Gave a quick listen on Amazon music and I gotta say they’re rated just about right.
Indeed. I’ve seen them as recently as last summer, and they are still at the top of their game.
I’d love to see them. Doesn’t look like they get to the East Coast very often.
Billy Zoom is close to 70 now I think.
They’re still playing? I thought they were an ex-band.
Yes. Still the original line-up, too. And John Doe’s solo stuff is worth checking out as well.
The Original Sinners, Exene’s band, are pretty good too.
I’ll be seeing them at the end of May, outside of Columbus.
Always break them out for the 4th of July.
Yep. Minor hit on my local alt-radio in HS.
I like them and the XX as well.
The xx IS pretty good. I think the girl in that group (duo?) has a great voice.
Not by the “Pazz and Jop” critics circle during the early 80s. They worshipped them almost as much as they worshipped The Clash.
Idk, I’m by no means a punk connoisseur, and I’ve been familiar with them (because of continued praise). Probably one of the most referenced punk bands in my second-hand experience—certainly as concerns the US, certainly as concerns west-coast punk bands.
But yeah, they’re good.
*US-based punk rock
Btw, broadly relevant: Michael Malice’s new interview with Handsome Dick Manitoba is worth listening to.
Ha. I still get a Pazz and Jop poll every December even though I stopped filling them out years ago.
“Anyhoo, here’s a sport link for you all”
ESPN still does sports?
Only by accident.
In the interest of keeping Glibs up to date on Ariana Grande’s misadventures in kanji tattoos:
https://www.tmz.com/2019/01/31/ariana-grande-japanese-tattoo-misspelled-7-rings-japanese-bbq-finger/
Remarkably, TMZ is correct. This is worse than before. Although we now know she meant the “ring you wear on your hand” and not something ring shaped.
There are multiple problems, but if you write kanji vertically you generally read them top to bottom and from right to left.
Maybe she is prepping for her role in “Memento II: Did I Leave The Iron On?”
Are there Japanese tattoos in incorrect English?
I’ve never seen one. On tee shirts? Yes, all the time. A quite popular one for young girls was a line of “Father Fucker” tee shirts about 15 years ago.
There are entire, hilarious websites full of the misadventures that Easterners have with English.
I remember walking through Jusco in Okinawa 15 years ago and seeing a shirt for sale that, no shit, swear to god, said “MOLESTER” across the front.
Japanese version of “The Scaret Retter”?
Plenty of fun to go around, although this is pan Asia.
http://www.engrish.com/
Tattooing in Japan is not as widespread as the west. Multiple reasons one being irs association with yakuza.
http://www.engrish.com/category/tattoos/ – you got to it right as I was posting elsewhere.
Yeah, basically no one gets tattoos here. Once in a while I see one on a young guy in Shibuya, but you can’t even go to most onsens or sento if you have one.
Or use the pool in a Western chain hotel.
I rarely have seen body piercings or other mutilations, in addition to tattoos, on women in Japan which just adds to their hotness. Maybe some younger ones have it. Sad if that begins to open up. I’m old enough to remember when those were rare in the population here.
Bagelheads weren’t a real thing? Shocked, I am.
Thanks for filling in, El Flash.
No prob. I tried some formatting, white space, etc, which is totally not evident. Apparently I need more practice.
White space…I’m so triggered.
Literally, worse than Hitler.
No kidding. She should have just called it lebensraum. Or maybe schreibensraum.
Illegal immigrants, MAGA hats and Starbucks. You hit all the fun stuff. Thumbs up.
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/yearbook-ralph-northam-in-blackface-photo/
He has a D by his name. He’ll be ok.
The press will forget about this once he apologizes for the regrettable incident, which of course was done in his youth, before he had developed a clear sense of right and wrong. You know, like they do with all politicians. /ha ha
I posted this in the previous thread but it’s now been validated. It’s real, and it’s spectacular.
HAHAHAHAHAHA…..I’m sure nothing of consequence will happen here, but I am going to love having this to beat the West End “moderates” over the head, who all voted for this shitbird
Much of my library of books and music is in boxes. Consequently, I was quite happy to find one of my favorite, eclectic albums, one which I haven’t been able to listen to for many years, is on youtube!
Elements: The Island Anthology by Jade Warrior
That darn Trump
Next, Herman Cain is, to put it as nicely as possible, an unconventional choice. Cain ran a business, ran for office, and became a Republican talk-show host and general crank; he’s no economist. Although he was once chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, he has none of the qualifications that appointees to the position conventionally have. It probably doesn’t matter anyway, because Cain quit his presidential run in 2011 over accusations of sexual harassment. If that was enough to derail him then, it’s hard to believe that Republican senators will be eager to confirm him during the #MeToo era. For Trump to even consider him seems like a gaffe, especially given the president’s own history with the subject.
What are his views on the proper role of the Federal Reserve Bank in the economy? What are his views on monetary policy?
Who cares? He’s a terrible choice, because TRUMP!
because Cain quit his presidential run in 2011 over accusations of sexual harassment
And as far as I can tell, those accusations melted away when he quit the race. Funny how that was the case…..
Also, doesn’t “he was once chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City” seem like a bit of a big caveat to the assertion that he’s not qualified?
What are you expecting, some kind of consistent standard?
Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State = most qualified person to be President ever
Herman Cain was Chairman of a Federal Reserve Bank = unqualified to serve on the Federal Reserve Board
It’s the quantitative easing of caveats.
The harassment claims were from years earlier and the women had already been paid off, the affair accusation was ‘he said/she said’, there were no lawsuits or anyting to follow up on so It’s not really odd that once Herm dropped out the public would have little interest in those stories anymore.
Or, you know, maybe it was all bullshit meant to smear a conservative black.
So they falsified harassment claims and paid them off years before Herm ever thought of running for office just in case they needed to discredit some nobody pizza man? If the Libs are that well organized and farsighted then I’d suggest we all start towing the liberal lion cause that’s some wicked smart shit right there, you can’t beat that.
I don’t even remember any details, or honestly give a shit. Your devil’s advocate/troll/pedant shtick just hit a nerve for a split second there and so I thought I’d get lippy. Maybe you are actually right. Don’t care either way.
On a lighter note, I’m about to FINALLY try your homebrew. Don’t ask what took so long…I can’t give an excuse that isn’t stupid.
Cool, hope you enjoy it.
“Trump only appoints white men.”
New item: Trump proposes African-American Herman Cain.
“Cain is a traitor to his race, a crank, no economist, unqualified, and a rapist.”
It really doesn’t matter what Trump does, because Orange Man Bad is the undercurrent of everything in the news these days.
For Trump to even consider him seems like a gaffe, especially given the president’s own history with the subject.
Considering Trump has done quite well even with (because of?) his own history with the subject, why shouldn’t he?
Guys in Netlix show about drugs gets arrested for…dealing drugs.
Mission accomplished, dumbass.
It should all be legal anyway, but it’s not,
“Zettell, who goes by the street name “Ozone,” appeared in an episode of the Netflix series “Dope.” He was in the second season’s third episode, which featured stories in the Metro Detroit area.”
At least they named the series after him.
And born on this day
You missed Stuart Whitman, who turns 91 today. Night of the Lepus is fun if awful, and his Oscar-nominated turn in The Mark, in which he plays a child molester who’s back in society after serving his prison sentence, is one that probably couldn’t be made today.
Janet Leigh, Bones McCoy, Whitman, and Rory Calhoun in Night of the Lepus
Love that 70s moustache
One of my favorite so-bad-it’s-good movies.
Whitman always did have an enviable mane.
He stands on his back legs like a little Rory Calhoun.
That “Couldn’t be made today” thought process is a fun exercise to go through. From what was mainstream, I usually start with “Blazing Saddles”. Taking it a step further, given the Hollywood climate, what movies are candidates for a Disney “Song of the South” treatment in future years, where the company makes it so the movie is essentially impossible to (legally) view in the USA?
“CEO and chairman Howard Schultz … is considering running for president as an independent centrist candidate.”
The Starbuck stops here.
This generation’s Ross Perot?
We can only hope, but I expect him to bail by the end of next week.
OMG, why would anybody think a successful businessman is more qualified than an academic economist to be on the Federal Reserve Board?
Because they’re insecure, incompetent and envious of those who are the opposite?
/responding to the bizarro version of your question
Funny aside, one of the more successful banking stories (for a while anyway) was the rise of Commerce Bank in Southern New Jersey. The bank came from virtually out of nowhere after being started by a guy named Vernon Hill. He built it into a pretty sizeable regional operation. The interesting thing about Hill was that his background, like Caine’s was as a fast food franchise operator. His insight into the business was that retail banking wasn’t fundamentally different from running any other retail operation.
Yes. One of the first banks not to have “banking hours”.
Yup. It was actually a brilliant insight. Longer hours open, a “penny arcade” coin counter, opening “stores” when other banks were closing branches, standardized store layout, onsite debit card replacement, etc.
It was all pretty novel. But, the trick was, because it was more convenient, they could pay less interest on deposits and charge more interest on loans.
Whatever happened to the time honored tradition of quietly spitting on the food of customers you don’t like?
^ This ^
Which is why I would never walk into a restaurant wearing political gear of any type. I don’t know the people cooking and serving the food and don’t want them mad at me.
You know, I prefer clear sign that someone hates me to such bullshit.
I’m sure his business will hurt so bad…in California county where The Donald got 18.43% of the vote…and Deplorables are more likely to be deeply closeted.
“Hey, I don’t agree with your political stance, but here’s the best food I could create. Hope you enjoy it and see that I don’t hate you. We just disagree.”
Businesses in a free market.
Unfortunately we are in a climate where, under certain circumstances (one being “be a successful semi-celebrity chef in an ultra-progressive town”), hating your potential customers is a perfectly acceptable business decision.
It’s apparently newsworthy that one business in the state made this declaration. It’s almost a surprise: only one business here has this policy?
Free publicity. That’s all this is.
I also meant to include this one: Michigan voters legalized recreational use of marijuana, but gave local governments the chance to opt-out of participating. So apparently 250 have so far.
Well, it was work related, but still a slog. If you’ve got a week of time and a lot of alcohol, some of you may find it enlightening to wade through the new reports (Vol 1 and Vol 2) of the US Army report on Iraq. Or at the very least skip to the conclusions chapter at the end of vol 2.
I’d previously known/seen a lot of bits and pieces but this really fits virtually every single aspect in context (and nearly entirely chronological) – between the boots on the ground and the 10000 foot level. Keeping in mind this is strictly the military report – divorced [mostly] from the US domestic political arguments.
Mistakes were made (and not glossed over) – and hopefully folks will take away a LOT from this.
Of course….while they account for a LOT of culture issues – some of the biggest factors kinda stay un-named when you get down to it.
Did they talk about the stupidity of disbanding the Iraqi Army (I mentioned this morning)? Sent tens of thousands of professional soldiers home with nothing to do.
Yep. When I say it’s an all-inclusive report – nobody gets ignored. (other than the general Islam issue).
CPA gets reamed (as do a few other State/Diplomat types) – but looks like Casey was probably one of the biggest problems.
It wasn’t just Casey. Sanchez was in over his head, Brenner was clueless and Rumsfeld turned off the force flow while the initial fight was still going on. Mistakes in war are part of the deal, but Rummie refused to acknowledge the mistakes to correct them.
Odierno went behind Casey to sell both moving from the FOB’s back out to protect the people, and the surge. Davie was at Ft Leavenworth and not in Iraq for the decisions.
Yeah, I know. Like I said – it’s very thorough. Each volume is well over 600 pages not counting footnotes. Worth a read if you have time.
I bet you could almost make a glibs article out of it… Thanks for volunteering!
Forget that, let’s go double or nothing in Syria. Any takers? Anyone?
Good links!
Here’s a fun story. The local Catholic archdiocese is hosting a conference about gender, at which one of those folks who are into the conversion therapy thing will be speaking. Area gay teen objects. Why this is news, I don’t know. The story doesn’t even mention if the teen is Catholic or not, which might give him some sort of grounds for meddling in a private institution’s affairs.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/denver/gay-denver-teen-pens-essay-after-archdiocese-invites-controversial-host-to-gender-matters-conference
Spokesman for the archdiocese says they’re just all about love, but…
“Hutzapple said he’d like to see that love and compassion extended to all LGBTQ people, not just those who are trying to fit in with church teachings.”
You will be made to care.
Hutzapple? Really?
“is hosting a conference about gender”
Why would you even consider doing such a thing?
Brave teen takes on the Catholic Church. International media are probably tripping over themselves as we speak.
Lately every ‘brave stand’ seems to be by a brave teenager — Hogg, that Scandanavian climate change girl at Davos, and now this kid. We could learn a lot from teenagers, you know — perhaps we should give them the vote and let them run for office! Except that smirking maga kid, though, he should be put in jail.
re: presidential candidates
McAffee is going to Vladivostok!!! PUTIN PUPPET CONFIRMED!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1091164591281844225
He doesn’t stand a chance. I heard Michelle was going.
He was interviewed by Glenn Beck yesterday. That was some good eats.
U.S. judge mulls gag order on talkative Trump adviser Stone
He should remain as tight-lipped as the prosecution is with discovery?
“this is a criminal proceeding and not a public relations campaign.”
Ri-i-i-ight.
Of course, at the same time, we’ll be treated to a long line of revelations from “unnamed sources close to the Mueller investigation” or “confidential sources familiar with the investigation” telling us the other side of the story.
How about this. Impose a gag order on both sides enforceable with jail time on the part of the principals.
The gag order would be for both sides. But of course, it will only effect Stone, because the prosecution leaks will all be “anonymous” and untraceable, yet spread uncritically as fact by every major media outlet.
When those who are not politically connected play the “anonymous leaks” game, everybody gets indicted until some talks.
Which is why I said “enforceable with jail time on the part of the principals”. If anybody on the prosecution team leaks, Mueller is looking at jail time.
That would be justice.
Bullshit. Gag order should be against the government period. These are not coequals. The government party does not have any rights, which Stone does and retains.
Why not? They’ve tossed out the 6th Amendment for Stone, might as well toss out the 1st as well.
Obama appointee wants to shut up a Republican critic who’s on trial on bullshit charges? Shocking.
Day 1 of the defense, file a motion to have prosecutor Meuller arrested and charged with the same crime complete with all the evidence that we have that he lied to Congress about the illegal wiretapping operation
Speaking of ivory tower economics… are you paid what you’re “worth”? Is anybody?
Economic theory recognizes many reasons why the monetary value of various activities isn’t equal to its true value to society. A low-paid scientist laboring in a dusty research lab finds a way to save millions of lives, but never gets paid for the discovery. Schoolteachers’ salaries may not reflect the value of having a workforce that can read and write, and doctors don’t necessarily get paid more when they cure communicable diseases.
Meanwhile, there are plenty of ways people’s monetary value to a company can exceed the true social value of what they do. The top executive at a coal-fired power plant gets paid a lot even if people get lung diseases from the smoke his company belches into the air; the medical bills don’t come out of his paycheck, nor does any of the damage from global warming caused by releasing carbon. Bank employees can be overpaid if investors systematically make mistakes that cause them to buy those banks’ exploding financial products. Private-equity managers can be overpaid if tax breaks allow them to make money by saddling companies with unaffordable debts. The list goes on and on.
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In other words, even though the question of whether workers are paid what they’re worth is incredibly hard to answer definitively or even with any generality, it’s important for economists and policy makers to keep asking it, and keep trying to tweak the system so that compensation is more in line with contributions. The alternative — a system that everyone increasingly believes is unfair — is not a happy one to contemplate.
I like how that electric utility executive busily poisoning his downwind neighbors contributes no offsetting positive value in the equation. Those guys just like to fill the air with toxins for the fun of it.
He hates the exploding financial products! Stay away from the exploding financial products!
I know! Let’s have the government decide how much goods and services should be priced! All those icky sellers and purchasers don’t really know what they want!
What could go wrong?!?
One great thing: those greedy grocery chains won’t be able to suppress the Venezuela diet anymore!!!!!!
its true value to society
Which is, of course completely unknowable, rendering the rest of the article attempting to compare compensation to it a total waste of brain cells.
Unknowable, and irrelevant. What matters is how much it’s worth to whoever is paying it.
The value of something is what a buyer is willing to pay for it and what a seller is willing to be paid for it.
And when you have lots of buyers and sellers engaging in transactions of very similar or identical items/services, you get convergence towards a common price. And that, boys and girls becomes the “market price” and actually tells you the value in the mind of the broad mass of people that comprise society.
You guys are so wrong. Very problematic. The value of something is determined by how much your body moves when creating it. This is known.
Which is, of course completely unknowable
Not true. The value of anything to society is what Noah Smith feels like it should be worth.
A low-paid scientist laboring in a dusty research lab finds a way to save millions of lives, but never gets paid for the discovery.
Um, can you point one of those out to me? The scientists I know who made discoveries that saved many lives (medical research in a dusty lab? Really? Wouldn’t that taint your results? “Forget it, he’s rolling.”) got to share the patent with their research institution and are now incredibly rich — one such friend just bought a new Ferrari. In fact, that’s one of those pesky incentives that makes people want to go into medical research in the first place. But no, keep talking about your imaginary low-paid scientist who saves millions of lives and afterwards remains in his dusty abode, none the better for his work.
In fact, that’s one of those pesky incentives that makes people want to go into medical research in the first place.
Yup. It’s a lottery career. In that sense, actors are like investment bankers are like research scientists are like drug dealers. In each case, the person goes into the career, knowing that the pay isn’t all that great (for the investment banker and research scientist, given their education, hours, and alternatives) at the junior level, but believing that they might be one of the people to make it to the elite level where the pay can be remarkable.
Well, my friend tells me there is a cure for cancer but the pharmaceutical companies have bought the research people off so they could keep on selling drugs at really, really high prices and cancer patients are forced to buy them if they want to live.
Since society has no capability for evaluation, nothing has any value to society. The entire concept is nonsensical.
How come no one has ever thought to keep tweaking the system before?! It’s so brilliant.
Still more idiocy from Smith:
there are some reasons companies might want to pay workers more than their marginal product contributes. For example, as Henry Ford famously discovered, giving workers higher pay can make them work more efficiently.
That. Isn’t. What. Happened.
Ford never claimed that’s what happened. No rational analyst has ever claimed that’s what happened.
It’s not meant to convince you. It’s meant to convince the teeming hoards of morons he hopes will one day do all the dirty work, and then put him in charge.
Not sure if it got posted. AOC countdown to the end of the world.
https://npcdaily.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-countdown/
Obligatory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
That old commercial where that band would play that song every time someone used the microwave was hilarious, at least the first couple times it was on.
That song was a punch-line even when it was current. Some Spanish kid on my HS soccer team would play it on his boombox all the time when we were hanging out just to piss everyone off.
Come on! Did anybody use that song better than GOB in “Arrested Development”?
Too bad Europe and Asia never played together.
Too bad Europe and Asia never played together.
America could have been the opening band.
I’m buying a lot of stuff right now with no payments due for 12 years. I’m gonna have some fun now
Why I love my home town.
The local Holiday Inn built a bar out on the lake in an ice house.
Excellent.
The licensing people, the fire inspectors and zoning board will be visiting to insure its ADA compliant.
Canada wants to sue Netflix over footage used in Bird Box.
My bold. Really???
You realize our leader is a literal retard right?
Jesus. Mom, you left too soon.
Mom was born in Lac-Megantic.
Wearing a MAGA Hat in Harvard Square. Week 2.
This week I kept wearing my MAGA hat during the lunch break. I went to most of my favorite lunch places, to a local bank to make changes to my checking account, to a bookstore to browse Egypt travel guides and so on. Nobody confronted me and with the sole exception no one even had any reaction. Today I even got a sandwich in one the proggiest places in Harvard Square that has every progressive sticker on the front door. No negative attitude and the sandwich was as good and overpriced as usual. The (possible) exception was a young black woman who smiled, almost laughed when she looked at me yesterday. I’m glad that it was the “worst” reaction that I encountered.
I’m done with this experiment for now. I might put the MAGA hat on again when Trump is impeached or if he does something awesome (like the Paris climate accord withdrawal).
You should write a novel. “MAGA Like Me”
MAGA, please!
“I Was a Secret MAGA Man: Confessions of a Massachusetts Resident”
I was thinking more of the opposite. “I was a MAGA hater, so I wore the hat in hostile territory to see what would happen.”
A coworker suggested that people assumed that I was wearing the hat ironically.
So they all assume you’re a hipster. Time to shave that beard, grizz.
Dang. At least they waiting until Che was dead first.
Congrats on links duty. You have arrived!
Omar Comin’
Freshman Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar floated taxing the wealthy at a rate of up to 90 percent, joining fellow Democrats pushing for much higher rates on the top bracket to pay for sought-after programs like “Medicare-for-all.”
Who will be the first to go with a 100% tax?
AOC, of course.
And we took in a lot less money from those brackets. You can have high tax rates or high revenue but not both.
Why stop at 100%. How about 110%?!
That’s basically the Elizabeth Warren plan.
Astrid Lindgren?
Why not just come out and declare that anyone with more than 2 nickles is an enemy of the people? Then we can just declare a War on Wealth and be done with it.
Hell, just nationalize the rich and be done with it.
If everyone is equally poor, then the politicians, academics and journalists will be the ones in power, as it should be (in their minds).
1. Thanks Minnesota. Thanks a lot.
2. I miss The Wire.
Nice work, Elspeth!
Good history and some meaty lynx! I give it a solid A-.
(I docked points for no music)
What, you’re the Bulgarian judge from the seventies Olympics? Her first links, dude.
Think how good the next ones will be, white knight! 😉
Thanks. It was hard to choose music. Work got in the way this morning, so I just hit “submit” and got back to work. On this plus side, walked the dog at work, mission accomplished. She’s getting better at ignoring hobos, and everyone else who is walking downtown.
Early socialization is a huge benefit. You can always tell the dogs that missed it. They are neurotic and aggressive.
Like proggies.
It was hard to choose music.
When in doubt, just choose “Never Gonna Give You Up” and call it a day.
How about answering “I just work here ” ?
“Look, man, I just serve the overpriced, ass-flavored coffee. So which fucked up coffee milkshake can I prepare for your pretentious ass?”
Just hang a sign up that gives the definition of ‘former’. Point to it if someone asks a question.
Just a Grande Frappucino. I’m on a diet.
Grande Fappucino? The Ariana link is up there.
Friday afternoon titties will set your heart aflutter.
http://archive.is/YXaY3
27:
https://archive.is/YXaY3/05cf4ca9ee65cf9adff8f43f0805f4fd14b06e45
“The coffee chain’s “Barista Need-To-Know” update for the week of Jan. 21-27 included instructions on how to “diffuse [sic] the situation” should anyone “share aggressive political opinions,” as well as what to do if someone asks about Schultz’s “political intentions.”
They sure ask a lot of these baristas, eh?
At this rate, we can send them in to deal with a hostage crisis.
What a wretchedly woke company wallowing in hubris Starbucks is.
Well they mostly hold degrees from our leading educational institutions. They should be able to handle such tricky situations.
A few Hall-of-Fame birthdays from yesterday (none today): Ernie Banks “Let’s play two!”), Jackie Robinson, Nolan Ryan.
Uh-oh, Virginia Governor The yearbook strikes again! Blackface and a Klan robe.
https://pilotonline.com/news/government/politics/virginia/article_67fdd682-2662-11e9-a7d1-c7ed70e09b50.html
“When we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother with the consent of the physicians — more than one physician, by the way — and it’s done in cases where there may be severe deformities, there may be a fetus that is nonviable,” he said.
Explaining what would happen in such a case, Northam made comments that were soon seized on by political opponents and others: “The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”
OMG, they’ve already gone on to infanticide.
” would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired,”
Here’s your brain dead baby that will need government assistance for the rest of their life.
The infant would be delivered, the infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
This is actually the way its done for severely deformed or terminally impaired infants now. If the delivery team knows in advance that the infant is in this kind of shape, the infant may or may not be resuscitated automatically on delivery, but certainly the attempt would be made if that’s what the mother wants. We have a pediatric hospice program that occasionally gets a newborn.
Whether a terminal infant is put on full NICU treatment or “comfort care” is determined by the parents after consultation with the doctor, exactly what you do with terminal adults who can’t make their own decisions.
This is what “the parents are in charge of their child’s treatment” looks like. If you have a better alternative, let’s hear it.
The real issue, I think, is that what I just described is how we handle babies who are terminal after a normal delivery. Making a fetus terminal with an attempted abortion is another thing, but in my mind, the “infanticide” is the abortion, not the post-abortion “allow natural death”/palliative care/hospice care.
Yes. That’s the issue.
Is this abortion bill kerfuffle going to give pause to a slice of Virginia’s electorate amidst the state lurching leftward?
I doubt it. The toxic sludge coming out of DC is what turned VA blue and are in lockstep favor of it.
Yeah, it’s the same as Illinois or Oregon or Washington or New York. Except even worse, because it’s not just Democrats, its federal government employees. Some of those Democrats in Chicago and Seattle and New York City and Portland are actually producing wealth. The VA Democratic party now starts off every election with like a million voters that all work for the federal government. They basically get to start a statewide election already rounding the first turn.
Then you add in a bunch of out of state students at UVA, VT, VCU even, and they all got registered this year to RESIST.
We might be selling the farm and leaving the state. I wouldn’t have considered it just for the political state, but now that I’m looking for a new job anyway, it’s given me reason to at least consider out of state jobs. So far I have interviews with employers in Indiana and North Carolina.
A company recruiter from San Francisco called and asked me if I’d consider moving there. I said sure it’s possible. How deep are your pockets?
“So far I have interviews with employers in Indiana and North Carolina.”
Wife is from IN, we are looking to move at some point. Got its good and bad points.
Anything really stand out (good or bad)?
I have not dived deep yet, but it looks like the tax rate is similar to VA and they have excellent 2A laws (state preemption, lifetime CC permit, posted signs do not carry force of law).
NC is looking pretty good among other alternatives. Whereabouts?
One was near Raleigh, but I withdrew my application there after the interview. It wasn’t a good fit.
There’s a second one that I think I’ll land an interview for in the western part of NC (around Charlotte/Greensboro). It’s commutable from my home now, but it’d be at least an hour each way and I’d probably tire of that long-term.
“Anything really stand out (good or bad)?”
Weather wise its colder. Which I hate, winter is fucking brutal for me. COL is cheaper on the real estate side, though there are weirdly high gas prices in the area I’ve been around. Much better 2A as you said. No car inspection, which is cool. Roads kind of suck in the part I have been to.
Her people are around Bloomington, where IU is, so its kind of a typical college town. I’ve visited now in every season, fall is nice it’s a real fall with lots of color in the leaves and that classic crispness. Summer was a little cooler, which is nice. Bloomington kind of reminds me of Charlottesville, even to the point where the are some close by areas that remind me of Nelson County with the breweries and wineries.
It has the vices and virtues of one of the more conservative states in the country I think, from an art, food, and culture POV. Although Indy is a big city with all the big city things. Funny story: last NYE we were there, and I was gonna make real Southern pimento cheese, and I couldn’t find pimentos in the pickle aisle. Ended up having to go to a specialty market for them. They make something called chili that doesn’t seem to have chili peppers, but does have macaroni noodles.
Thanks for the info. I did some quick Zillow searches earlier and the real estate there seems promising. I’m with you on not liking cold winters. I saw it was negative 38 there this week. Not a fan of that, though I know it’s atypical.
Chili Mac?
Don’t think I’ve had too much of that since I was active duty. Good stuff.
Update to the Kenji stepping on his dick story
Pussy. His agent, partners and attorney probably lit him up pretty good, though.
That makes Kenji López-Alt right.
I smiled.
So he doesn’t apologize for the statement at all. Just for not doing his CYA groundwork first.
To, non-apology apologies make you look like an even bigger asshole.
Sean McVay said his team was ‘undecided’ if they would go to The White House.
Go Patriots.
The thing that gets me about these woke-idiot athletes is they have a President who actually has his door open ready to listen to their concerns and they don’t take it. They’d prefer to virtue signal. Lebron James is the worst about this. If Kardashian and Van Jones can go talk to the President then he should move his ass and go do something constructive instead of pee-shoot from afar.
The tolerant left Ottawa style:
https://ottawasun.com/news/local-news/transit-chair-accuses-colleague-of-creating-climate-of-fear-over-commissioner-comments/wcm/d9bc4648-e33d-4b18-a56d-e01b69bc1f47
If you wrong think you will pay.
“I don’t apologize for raising social issues that I think transit does overlap,” Menard said, adding that he believes transit is a “gender issue.”
Shawn Menard is the useful idiot, faux-righteous bonehead of the day.
*Checks clock*
With such a deep talent pool, there’s still plenty of time for someone else to win the award.
” the city’s top lawyer said religion and expression are protected by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms”
In Canada? Is that true, Rufus?
Let’s just say it’s no 1st Amendment.
They wrote it in a way that leaves the government the final say.
It’s a Charter for cucks who can’t commit.
Rufus said it, I’ll bloviate:
Everything in The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (more formally known as the Constitution Act, 1982) needs to be understood in light of Section 1, which states:
“1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society” (italics mine).
As you can imagine, since 1982, many hijinks have been perpetrated and much hilarity has ensued due to Section 1.
You really think Papa Trudeau the commie would have it any other way?
C’man!
Hey, at least the guy had the foresight to deny Justin access to his portion of PET’s estate until Justin reached the age of 45 years (probably known in private as the “My son Justin’s a dumbass!” provision of his will).
Sadly, the average Canadian helped to get him elected at the age of 42. Somewhere in Hell, PET and Satan are both laughing their asses off at the same joke.
My bad — the Charter is merely Part I of the Constitution Act, 1982.
Forgotten a lot since my LS days back in the 80s.
Is it me or does the Councilman look more like an unemployed layabout than someone you’d trust with the honest administration of laws?
He was just trying to arrange a foursome, you can’t fault the guy for that.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/01/31/this-is-me-a-woman-who-found-out-her-boyfriend-of-a-year-had-two-other-girlfriends/
wow, so it’s not like he just had two side pieces or anything – he had three whole ass relationships.
(why would he do that to himself?)
Some men collect stamps.
I think I found your problem
I’m positively decrepit by Millennial standards, but I’ve been told by multiple reliable sources that this is how they date each other.
“Environmental racism”
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2019/02/01/actress-raves-environmental-racism-will-cause-world-end-2030-rips
wut
Oh my. She’s burnt.
And Colbert is such a shitstain.
Why should Alyssa Milano have all the crazy-leftist fun?
Well, it looks liek there are some new students are going to be showing up in the coding classes
The math isn’t terribly difficult. Even if liberals outnumber conservatives 4:3 (I’m not saying this is the case; it’s just illustrative), the math is still inevitable. That ratio gives liberals 33% of the market, conservatives 25% of the market and moderates & the uninterested in politics 42% of the market. That sounds pretty compelling for the liberal outlets. Until you look at the fact that there are two dozen liberal outlets competing for the same sets of eyeballs on the liberal side. You have, maybe, a half dozen on the right. I’d rather own 4% of the market than 1.25%.
Also assuming that these companies have been acting in a fiscally responsible manner. Knowing the priorities of Millennial Nu-Business, I am not sure there isn’t a widespread culture of fiscal profligacy.
My impression is that there is a culture of fiscal profligacy. At the top. After that, they sort of run a journalistic sweatshop.
And they’re lazy and consider “journalism” to be copying Reddit threads verbatim and then saying whatever’s in the thread constitutes a “new trend”.
If it’s true that Buzzfeeds most popular quiz designer was a student paid in company merch, we are beyond profligacy.
I read that story. Too funny.
Woke going into hibernation.
Envy Party, your table is ready
The United States has a proud tradition of breaking up concentrated wealth. The first federal progressive income and estate taxes date from the first Gilded Age, over a century ago. That’s when President Theodore Roosevelt observed, “Of all forms of tyranny, the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of a plutocracy.”
The wealth tax that Warren proposes would raise substantial revenue — by one estimate almost $3 trillion in the next decade. This would be a substantial boost for spending on green infrastructure, affordable higher education, and other investments that could expand opportunity.
But more fundamentally, the tax would be an investment in protecting democracy from the “tyranny of a plutocracy” that worried Roosevelt. Today’s massive concentrations of wealth also are concentrations of political and economic power, which are disruptive to democracy, social cohesion and economic stability for everyone.
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Like a century ago, today’s extreme wealth inequality requires a direct tax on wealth. A once-in-a-lifetime estate tax, or a more steeply progressive income tax alone, will not put a sufficient brake on dynastic wealth. Warren’s proposal would galvanize a populist movement that has been pointing out for decades the corrosive impact of concentrated wealth on our body politic.
Democracy is broken. Round up the
possemob.Like a century ago, today’s extreme wealth inequality requires a direct tax on wealth.
You know what didn’t happen a century ago with these taxes? Any reduction whatsoever in the “plutocracy”.
Money and power will always find each other.
Err yeah, $3 trillion in a decade wouldn’t even be enough to maintain CURRENT spending levels forget add any new spending
You’d need $10TT over the next decade to cover current spending levels.
We are now to the point where nobody who matters ever mentions the deficit or the debt. Every penny of new tax revenue goes to new spending.
The sad thing is, we would be at breakeven right now if the total federal spend was at the level we spent in 2013. Hell, I’d throw a tickertape parade for Trump if he submitted Obama’s 2012 budget to Congress, with across the board increases for inflation and population growth, as a breakeven budget that met the nation’s needs, according to St. Obama himself.
Artist’s depiction of spending $3 trillion on “green infrastructure, affordable higher education, and other investments”.
That’s seems too random, unless the space under the window is sold by politicians to cronies.
“That’s when President Theodore Roosevelt observed, “Of all forms of tyranny, the least attractive and the most vulgar is the tyranny of mere wealth, the tyranny of a plutocracy.”
That would be the TR who was born into a wealthy family and was able to spend his life pursuing his hobbies and interests thanks to the vigorous business endeavors and investments of his ancestors?
“Ellen Page blasts Trump and Mike Pence for stoking homophobia in passionate speech in wake of Jussie Smollett attack
Ellen Page has blasted U.S. President Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence, accusing them of discriminating against the gay community and stoking homophobia.
Speaking in the wake of the attack on actor Jussie Smollett, the openly gay actress said: ‘It feels impossible to not feel this way right now with the president and the vice president, Mike Pence, who wishes I coudn’t be married,’ she said.
‘Let’s just be clear, the vice president of America wishes I didn’t have the love with my wife. He wanted to ban that in Indiana, he believes in conversion therapy, he has hurt LGBTQ people so badly as the governor of Indiana.’”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6658659/Ellen-Page-blasts-Trump-Mike-Pence-promoting-homophobia-passionate-speech.html
Isn’t she Canadian?
Isn’t she Canadian?
Yeah, but she’s from the Maritimes, so it’s already likely that she’s of sub-normal intelligence.
Notice that they still won’t let me do the links, yet they’ll hire an outside contractor.
Dey terk yer jerb!
Link outsourcing is what ruined this website.
Doing the job native Glibs won’t do.
Just wait until you find out how much we paid her!
You’re not helping.
They want to make your quest of bringing down the “Family Friendly Certified” badge meaningful.
Well, it’s not as though they shouldn’t have a legitimate fear of your links.
“1791 Charles J Sax, Belgian music instrument builder . . . which makes me think of the Simpsons, when it was still funny.
1895 John Ford, American director (Stagecoach, Air Mail, Quiet Man), born in Cape Elizabeth, Maine (d. 1973)
1921 Peter Sallis, British actor (Wallace and Gromit, Last of the Summer Wine), born in Twickenham, England (d. 2017)
1948 Rick James, bitch! [James Ambrose Johnson, Jr.], American funk musician (“Super Freak”), born in Buffalo New York (d. 2004)”
So does thai mean that Charles J Sax is still alive?
I give it 5 more years.
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/01/03/this-is-me-were-in-an-open-marriage-and-expecting-our-first-child/
Bonus:
Husband: “On my end, I hadn’t quite integrated sexuality or being a sexual person into my personality, so this was a really good opportunity to have those experiences and that kind of growth.”
That is some A-1 psychobabble; almost PoMo worthy.
my take, he’s too much of a pussy to pull her hair or anything so she finally gave up on him.
or he couldn’t get it up
No, he’s actually getting more than she is.
Double Bonus:
Wife: “I feel more comfortable at night knowing he’s going to come home and *there’s an end in sight.*”
Emphasis mine.
Sure you’re ok with it; watching the clock and counting on there being an “end in sight”. You’re not at all worried that he might not come home or what he’s doing with someone else.
I mean, he could be secretly looking at dozens and dozens of different womens’ tits online, instead.
At least she knows where he is and who he’s doing.
{snort} 😉
LOL
“Kid, your parents are crazy degenerates. Sorry.”
Would you care to expand on this?
“Kid, your parents are crazy degenerates. Sorry.”
Shit.
Oh well, probably wasn’t as funny as I thought.
A for effort, Tundra.
I was just thinking to myself… What makes this crazy? Looks like they sat down and had a somewhat rational discussion about it before they went ahead. And it looks like they’ve been doing this for years… Doesn’t really smack of crazy to me.
I guess I can understand the “degenerate” part. … Maybe. Seems pretty subjective to me, especially considering everyone involved is a fully informed adult.
Tha fuck? Jesus Christ, Riven, learn to Paleolib!
What makes this crazy?
Adding a kid to the mix.
I actually don’t give a fuck what people do, but it’s really goddamn hard to raise a non-psycho kid under the best of conditions. That doesn’t look like the kind of stability that a kid craves.
Hold on, let me see if I can do this…
Ahem: THESE PEOPLE LIVE DIFFERENTLY THAN ME AND I DON’T LIKE IT AT ALL. LOOK AT THEM OUT FUCKING MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHILE I’M STUCK WITH THAT WOMAN WHO NAGS ME ALL THE TIME AND NEVER PUTS OUT. HOW DARE THOSE PEOPLE LIVING DIFFERENTLY THAN ME DO THIS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Because traditionally married people always do a bang-up job raising kids? C’mon, man.
Whatever happened to treating people like individuals? I’m sure these two could be just as fine parents as anyone.
Why not?
Mom and Dad come home every night, they are not arguing and fighting over their extra relationships, they have developed a really strong degree of communication to help facilitate overcoming any of the difficulties in raising a family, the side dates and relationships are not being integrated in and out of the family which means that as far as the kid are concerned they likely will never know about this unless the parents tell them.
My kids had no clue that we had an open marriage for 15 years until we told them last year and one of my wifes ex boyfriends were integrated enough into the family to have bought birthday and christmas gifts for the kids.
So what exactly about it isn’t stable?
Riven, I think you misunderstand me. Clearly, a lot of people in unstable relationships of every kind fail to recognize the difficulties involved. Once the kids show up, a lot of what you ‘want’ goes out the door. I modified a lot of my prior – uh – less than stable behaviors once the Spawn showed up.
That’s all.
So what exactly about it isn’t stable?
Maybe nothing for you, obviously. But the fact that the kids didn’t know sounds really different than the article chick.
So what exactly about it isn’t stable?
I’d say the behavior itself isn’t inherently unstable. But, it creates a situation that is pretty unstable. It strikes me that an open relationship would be a riskier relationship than simple monogamy. There’d be the potential for things to go very wrong very quickly.
Don’t get me wrong. If you can make it work out for you, more power to you. But, I’d suspect that it would require an expenditure of energy that monogamy wouldn’t (and no, you cretins, I’m talking about emotional energy).
That said, everything I just said is simply conjecture.
Paleo means really really old, right? ok then. Ahem.
Bully!
*snicker*
Rasilio said it better than I ever could.
Families come in a lot of shapes and sizes–and in varying degrees of success and functionality. To say that a child born to these two people is doomed to some failure is based on… what, exactly?
Should kids not know that their parents are banging, either? I mean, if the concern is the perceived depravity of the parents, then shouldn’t traditionally married couples have separate beds?
How about those of us who have decided to not have open marriages? Let’s be honest. We don’t do that because we don’t think it’s the best way to have a family. If I thought an open marriage was better, I’d have found a wife that agreed to that. I didn’t. My stance is: I don’t think that’s going to work out most of the time, but go ahead and try if you want. I don’t think that makes me a prude.
How about those of you who decided not to? Who was saying anything about them? Did someone post an article pissing all over your traditional way of life?
My stance is: I don’t think marriages, in general, work out most of the time, but go ahead and do whatever you want (provided everyone is of-age, consenting, and informed) to tilt the odds of success in your favor.
Did I say you were a prude? Pretty sure I did not.
A purely monogamous marriage, as we understand it today, is largely a creation of 19th Century social reform by Progressives. No less than 100 years ago, you could find a brothel in pretty much every American city – and many married men frequented such places. Marriages stayed intact and children were raised.
Jus’ sayin’
You are correct it won’t, problem is exactly the same is true for monogamous relationships, they don’t work out most of the time. Also how do you define “work out” a monogamous relationship is certainly more likely to go till death do us part than an open one but it is also FAR more likely to devolve into something completely dysfunctional. Which is better?
Your not being interested in having an open relationship is not what makes you a prude. That is a perfectly acceptable life choice. It works for you and so great run with it. What makes you a prude is not acknowledging the same for people in open relationships.
Open relationships are no better or worse than closed each increases the likelihood of some pathological behaviors while reducing the likelihood of others and similarly each increases the likelihood of some healthy behaviors while reducing the likelihood of others each works better for some people and worse for others and each works better for some situations than others but neither is inherently better than the other save that more people are behaviorally disposed to do better in monogamous relationships.
I think we’re talking past each other. My fault for being overly cute. I absolutely agree that you should do what works for you. You didn’t say it, so I shouldn’t have put “prude” in a response to what you wrote. I have been bombarded with muh patriarchy! shit for so long that I’m a getting pissed off. Those of us who believe that you own your own body and are individuals have much more in common than either the SoCons or SJWs. Those are the people I want to push back on.
I don’t think it’s contradictory to say “this practice produces supoptimal results in aggregate” and still be a libertarian. Like, I don’t think that prostitution should be illegal, but that doesn’t mean I want my kid doing it for a living. I don’t think heroin users should be in jail, but that doesn’t make it a smart idea as a general rule.
“Families come in a lot of shapes and sizes–and in varying degrees of success and functionality”
Yeah when a standard hetero marriage is a trainwreck that leads to fucked up kids, no one says that is an indictment against marriage in general.
Though, I would think monogamous marriages would be more likely to have issues, in the same way that the more moving parts you have, the greater chance one fails. Like, instead of having two people that might go batshit, you have three or more.
“What makes you a prude is not acknowledging the same for people in open relationships.”
I make jokes about my “traditional marriage” all the time. I don’t think I’ve ever said anything like, “Open marriages aren’t real marriages!”. Maybe open marriages will prove to be a better way over time. I don’t know, so I’m going with what I believe in now. If you guys think a guy that says, “I’d never tell you how to live, but that’s not how I live” is some self righteous asshole, I don’t know what to say.
No worries, straff. Drake was the one who dropped a deuce in the punch bowl and ran.
You also have more people who can put the brakes on that.
This got a lot more serious than I thought it would…
And as far as any of it goes, it’s well known that I take a pretty dim view of humanity in general, so as far as “success” in any lifestyle by any measure, it’s all equal to me. People should knock themselves out doing whatever they want. None of it really matters in the end anyway.
First off there are many models of open relationships may of which are still based in the pairbond being primary and any additional partners being secondary. That is other partners the married couple may be involved with have about as much input and involvement in the marriage as his fantasy football buddies and her Yoga pals. It is basically a married couple who have friends with benefits on the side. In this model there are still only 2 moving parts and while you have introduced the possibility that jealousy of a secondary partner could develop or even a greater attachment to a secondary partner could develop either of which could threaten the primary relationship, those threats are very nearly as great to a monogamous relationship as the jealousy could develop over some other relationship that may or may not be sexual and married people develop feelings for others all the time. On the other hand you are introducing several mechanisms that can short circuit common pathologies of monogamous relationships so the net impact to the stability of the primary pair bond is not really all that large and the marriage will be as stable as the two people in it are regardless of whether it is open or closed.
For the relationship styles where multiple partners are actually married to each other, I agree they do become more complex and probably less likely to go on for lifelong durations. That said they also introduce safety nets not present in 2 person couples, for example in a triad you have a 3rd person who could conceivably go batshit you also have a second stable person left if that happens. It becomes easier to have one parent stay home and raise the kids because you still have 2 full incomes.
The reality is that it might be weird to you but poly/open marriages are exactly as stable as the people involved in them just as monogamous relationships are. They are not for everyone and only a minority are capable of thriving in them but they are inherently no worse of an environment for raising children than a traditional 2 parent family.
What HM said. This was a fine discussion, imo, despite the fact that the person I originally responded to tucked his tail and ran.
Maybe it was better that way anyway
I would never call someone a degenerate for getting laid.
Bah. I just was trying to literally expand the original sentence and then promptly failed to make a coherent point. I blame WP.
Fuck it. I dig you all and wish you nothing but success in your endeavors
I call y’all degenerates because you’re getting laid.
Same, Tundra. You’re good people.
“Kid, your dad is a goddamned genius.”
having actually RTFA, yeah, he is.
You realize there are people on this very site who are pretty open about being in such relationships right?
That’s crazy degenerate talk!
Never fear. We know who the actual degenerates are.
It’s me! I’ve had the love of a single woman for 30 years now! I still find her attractive and wanna do her as much as I can! MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TREAT ME LIKE A WEIRDO WHEN THEY ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT MY SEXUAL ACTIVITY AND I ANSWER THEM HONESTLY.
I’m actually not kidding.
That’s HM level freakiness right there.
I actually had a young female intern question me a few years ago when I was admitted to ER for nausea, and when I answered that I had only one sexual partner for over a quarter-century, she looked at me skeptically and said “C’mon. Really?” Yes, really, you cute-but-dumb twit.
You missed the obvious ending “Why you looking to increase it to two?”
Well, its her first child. Whether its also her husband’s first child seems like an open question.
I was gonna say, how does she know it’s the husband’s?
Oh maybe by having getting pregnant be a conscious choice so you stop sleeping with other men a month before you stop taking birth control and don’t start back up again till after you have a positive pregnancy test. It isn’t exactly rocket science. Or you know, they might just not care.
Get out of here with that logic, Rasilio.
As I said before, there are only two kinds of libertarians.
Plus I was told that women can just shut that whole thing down. In case of rape or whatnot.
I shut down my heart rhythm at will.
I’d get jealous thinking he’d have eggs with somebody else in the morning.
“Looks like someone was up late eating pussy. Here, have some coffee and wipe that juice off your face, Sleepy head.”
Maybe, but it likely won’t be the open relationship that causes it to end.
Mrs Ras and I have been in an open relationship for just shy of 17 years now, married for almost 14 of them and the biggest threat to our relationship is Facebook slowly turning her from an a-political right libertarian person into a progressive and reinforcing a victim narrative in her that was never present before.
People have been mocking traditional marriages for years. I think it’s great that we get to mock open marriages with the same gusto. Everybody is eating a giant shit sandwich. I miss the days when the blacks guys at work would slam white people and white people would slam black people. Personally, IDGAF what people do in the their own lives.
This is the future starffinrun wants!
Know your enemy. You don’t know your enemy if you burn all his books.
Dang, man. That’s tragic. I’d probably be calculating bullet drop and windage from a select location to Zuckerberg’s front door if that was happening to me.
Here I go trying to be Glib and it starts a flame war.
Congrats on finding an alternative to abortion and circumcision.
I’m impressed! 😉 Also, I’m glad you lol’d up above, Q. I was just being glib with the tits thing, but I realized after that it read harsher than I meant.
It was a good discussion, I think, by everyone who participated in the back and forth of it.
You’re not capable of being harsh, it just comes off as cute no matter how hard you try.
I am fierce! Fear me!!!
Or dont. Dont let me tell you how to live. 😛 Or love
That was a flame war? I must be thicker skinned than I thought because it seemed relatively mild to me.
FUCK YOU
Remeber on Usenet when you could go to bed, wake up, log on, and the flamewar would still be going on? Good times.
Vhyrus made this in response to ‘Buzzfeed fired predominantly POC and LGBT staff’ story, and for once I have nothing to add.
I do. Vhyrus should come back here.
Her programming is reaching the end of its useful life.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/nancy-pelosi-botches-words-suffers-face-spasms-confuses-dems-gop-while-vowing-no-border-wall-funding/
The developer already ended LTS. What a pity.
We shall have a new army of dedicated coders working on open sourcing Pelosi shortly. Six months, I’m told.
Did she pronounce “covfefe” correctly?
Did she start singing “Daisy”?
Better than Superfreak.
Kaleb
@KalebPrime
This is what you can get with Venezuela’s current monthly minimum wage.
God damn I hate Twitter.
He got some rice earlier in the week – he had pics, etc.
Could be clever trolling. Oh, who am I kidding.
Gotta love the true believer who replied thusly:
And if the picture is wrong keep adding sanctions until it is close enough to bring them to their knees. The people who say that socialism doesn’t work will do their best to make sure that they are right. They’ll also ignore social democracies like the Scandinavian countries.
Someone should reply with a picture of the Russian jet flying Maduro’s loot out of the country.
Livestream from today’s Glibertarians.com meetup.
Well, where is the fucking check?!?
It’s in the mail.
That “Loooong Dick Style” guy had me rolling. Spent way too much time binge watching him on YT. These guys came up on the side bar. The comedians they’re watching aren’t that great, but I wanna get high with them someday and watch videos.
Love him or hate him, Joe Rogan has done a fuckton of drugs.
I love him when he interviews people I like, but I hate him when he interviews people I dislike.
Mr. Mould, what are you running from?
New Bob Mould. The Germans got him.
Tolles Lied!
“Yeah sure the governor endorsed infanticide during a radio interview and then doubled down on it, but what you have to understa…..oh my God there’s a yearbook where he once wore blackface! You’re right, he’s a monster!”
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1091232933577289728
I blame the teachers’ unions.
Also a higher percentage of Republicans voted in favor of the Civil Rights act.
Sooooooooo, this past Wednesday at around 6:00 AM my wife comes in the bedroom screaming, “I’m pregnant!”, waking me up out of my slumber. I was pretty confused for 5 minutes but then it hit me like a ton of bricks.
Baring anything out of the ordinary happening, I’ll will have kid in late September, early October and it’s causing me a lot of anxiety. I want a kid but I have no idea how to raise one.
Relax… the placenta extrudes a manual written in ancient Aramaic. There are translations online. It tells you everything you need to know.
Hahaha, if only. I’m excited but then I get in this odd place of being anxious.
If I were you I’d be terrified. Good luck!
We’re all counting on you!
Do you like gladiator movies?
Shit. I shouldn’t have eaten it then.
Congrats! Don’t worry, you don’t have to be much until the baby comes
“I want a kid but I have no idea how to raise one.”
Feed it. But not too much, being the fat kid sucks ass. You don’t want that for your kid, trust me.
Love it. That’s kind of important. Not in an OMWC way. In like a wholesome way. Age appropriate stories, no Sugar Free until…..well….ever.
Treat it well. If you wouldn’t do it to a little old lady, don’t do it to your kid. So maybe put a lock on your computer so it can’t read the site.
You kind of figure out the rest as you go along I reckon. My dad was a giant asshole, and though I became glib, I’m not too bad a sort. You probably won’t be worse at being a dad than he was, so your kid will probably turn out better than me.
Oh, and maybe its time to GTFO of Chicago.
Congrats. I don’t have kids, but I worked with them for like a decade, so I kind of seen a lot of different types. They are mostly pretty decent.
Congrats Ed. Don’t worry about the raising, you’ll do awesome.
I think the most important thing to remember is that you are the kid’s parent. Not the doctor, not the teacher, not the grandparents. It’s fine to take advice, but don’t relinquish your responsibility/authority. I had to call 5 different practices before I found a pediatrician who understood this.
Relax Ed, nobody does. You are never ready, never know what you are doing and yet they turn out well.
You are gonna be fine.
Congratulations!
^^This^^
Not even people that write child rearing books.
Poor Dr Spock.
Congrats ED,
Actually its very easy until they reach 13. Then the word impossible fits perfectly for oh, 5-10-15 years or so. Good luck
Don’t worry, bro. Nobody is prepared. The good news is that any idiot can manage to raise a kid that’s not too fucked up. You’ll figure it out.
Congratulations?
Dude it isn’t all that hard, just keep them from sticking things into the electrical outlets for the first 5 years or so and keep a punching bag around so you have something to hit besides them when they break half the house and you’ll be good
Yeah, there is that. Kiss all of your nice stuff goodbye.
Don’t get upset just resolve yourself now that it is gone.
No worries, it’s just stuff. In 20 years you can replace it
*glares at the crayon scribbles on my work laptop*
If my friends with kids are any guide, buy yourself a ton of industrial strength cleaning products. I have the impression those little germ factories have an amazing ability to spread puke, shit, and piss onto every available surface. In fact, you may just want to Saran wrap them until age 12 or so.
Technically, your wife is having the kid. You’re just assisting in the delivery.
You mean by smoking a cigar in the waiting room?
The good old days.
If it’s causing you anxiety already, you’re gonna be a great dad. It’s the fuckers that don’t give a shit that I worry about.
Either that, or they’re already fathers to multiple children
^ I came here to say something similar ^
Congrats, Ed. You’ll do fine.
Congratulations man. I hope everything goes well for you and the wife.
Congrats Ed. You will do just fine. I had a similar reaction to our first. We are now at three boys and they seem to be pretty good. I will second that true fact that you are anxious is already an indication that you’ll be a great dad.
Congratulations on your human addition and condolences to all your nice stuff.
I’m really happy for you, Ed!
I won’t tell you to not worry, but I will tell you that fatherhood turned out to be one of my favorite jobs and something I turned out to be pretty good at (so far)
What makes it weird is that when we got married, Mrs. Tundra and I were firmly against having kids.
Just enjoy, man. It blasts by so fucking fast you won’t believe it.
In retrospect my kids tell me, thank me and respect me for my efforts at parenthood. It wasn’t always that way but they have grown far wiser as they are aging.
This doesn’t surprise me a bit.
The honey jar has about an inch left, by the way.
Amazing!
When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years.
Attributed to Mark Twain, though that appears to not be true.
I wonder how many blacks in VA voted for Northram?
But Trump is the racist and Cavenaugh is a drunken rapist
https://www.aim.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/5c54b387083d4.image_-868×562.jpg
Is he the gut in the KKK getup or is he the guy in blackface? I guess both are career ending though so it doesn’t really matter.
He’s a democrat….party of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, anti civil rights act and administrator of the welfare state. I doubt it is a career ended for him.
He’ll get a pass.
While they try to impeach Trump and Cavenaugh
Coming headlines: “Virginia politician accused of racial insensitivity.”
Republican Party continues to play the Washington Generals role. If this shoe was flipped on the other foot, the Dems would have opp researched it and run with it a week before the election.
I’m really beginning to think that a lot of Republicans and Republican strategists are in the business of raising campaign funds to lose with dignity.
You give them too much credit
Again, there’s something very wrong with our society that an elected official that endorsed infanticide on a radio show and latter doubled down on that position is in trouble not for that, but because he was an asshole in his twenties by dressing up as a black person. It reminds me of when the news media was fact checking the president’s weight and calling the president’s doctor a liar in the same week that legislators who were calling Trump “Hitler” reauthorized the warrantless data collection program over the objections of Rand Paul.
We have very perverse priorities
People are not judged by their actions, actions are judged by their people.
Since my open marriage post above seems to have triggered some kind of avalanche, let me clarify; my sarcasm did not come across and I’m sorry. Who gives a shit where people put their genitals? I don’t. I apologize if people were offended and it turned into a conflagration. The world is such a tragic, miserable place that I’m constitutionally incapable of taking things seriously.
Here’s a rare moment of seriousness: to my view, completely separate from the NAP and accompanying conclusions, my personal philosophy is that all lifestyles, including my own, are equally valid because they’re all equally pointless. Happy, sadness, fulfillment, misery; they’re all illusions. We’re all just high functioning apes desperately trying to fill some unfillable void that’s intrinsic to existence. Sleep with 1,000,000 people, go celibate, smoke crack until your heart explodes, it’s all the same. To wit, my favorite quote of all time:
“Nothing matters. We’re all just cockroaches, wildebeests dying on the riverbank. Nothing we do has any lasting meaning.”
Like Nietzsche, I’ve been fighting a desperate battle against nihilism from day one. I cloak myself in faith mostly as a “he doth protest too much” reaction to the outrageously high probability that Nietzsche was wrong and even the Will to Power has no meaning.
It’s also freeing. So go nuts. I got no standing to judge anyone and never have nor would I want to. I’m just another cockroach. This is one of the few places on Earth where each of us can fly our various freak flags.
Go home Q. You’re drunk.
Dibs on going through Q’s high school yearbook to find something to be upset about
You mean the picture of me wearing an SS uniform while setting a cat on fire?
That’s the ticket
Nah, we’re looking for something serious, like an old Republican bumper sticker
Why would you apologize for offending people?
That said was not offended in the least the fact that we can actually have discussions where we disagree but keep it civil and still get along is out strength. I suppose some day I should probably get around to writing an article about how actual open relationships work and their relative benefits and weaknesses but that would require discipline
“A gentleman always treats ladies with respect and never offends anyone unless he bloody well means to.”
Please write that, Rasilio. If my assumption that monogamous relationships are not shown to be statistically better at producing healthy environments for kids, I’d want to know. Also, I’d be more open to changing my mind if the argument is put forward by a libertarian than some statist because I’d be so focused on the glaring hypocrisy that I’d miss the point. I’m not expert on the subject (read: completely alien to me) and would like to read it. Same thing as Creosote’s bondage articles.
I wouldn’t worry. You’re not the one who called people “crazy degenerates”.
Let’s hold that against that person and only assume the worst of intentions on their part just to be safe
I’m just saying that’s what set people off, not Q’s OP.
Clearly this was Elspeth’s fault. Happened on her links, didn’t it? *Drops mic, stumbles off stage front, face plant*
I’ll agree with this.
It wouldn’t have happened if I did the links.
I’m starting to understand why you post all the titty pics now. 😉
On a lighter note…
https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a26105117/sex-love-horoscope-week-of-feb-1/
Cosmo is all about the butt stuff yo.
Sounds like ‘shocking Uranus’ might be another description for ‘the shocker’
(two in the pink, one in the stink for you new to the term)
Toss in a few paeans to La Revolución and they could steal Teen Vogue’s thunder.
Oh shit, I forgot Cosmo and Vogue were different magazines.
Dog bites man.
https://freebeacon.com/columns/the-democrats-lose-their-minds/
re: Battle Hymn of the Republic – “Trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored” I always thought that was a great line.
It’s probably racist somehow.
We need to know the color of the grapes before we can determine that.
It was written in the 1800’s, so yeah. Speaking of color, Shocking Blue. Mariska was hot back in the day.
Its actually breaking of the NAP. Destroying someone’s private property in a fit of pique over the storing of some sort of grapes?
Anyone wanna talk about race and IQ?
Yes! It’s like you read my mind. I read this essay by Nassim Nicholas Taleb recently.
Uh, do you something written by a white person or a Jew?
I’m sure Steven Pinker will have a response soon, if he doesn’t already.
Is it just me, or does almost everything Pinker say leave you thinking, “Yeah, so what?”
His popular topics work, yes. His work in linguistics, even if, in my view, it’s misguided, it’s still a contribution of value to the study of language acquisition.
I changed my gf’s name on my phone to “a hot piece of ass”. Now I can tell Siri to call or text a hot piece of ass. ?
How will the gf react when she learns of this?
If she’s worth a damn, “being flattered”.
Hopefully well.
I sent a screen shot showing her. It was well received.
Need pics
He’s going to post the screen shot.
Well, shit. 8 inches of snow predicted this weekend coupled with a low of -12. The whole state’s gonna be covered in the white stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1hbR_Y9gE0
Clicked it, and for some reason this was in my YouTube sidebar.
She has nice abs.
Wish that my last name was Snow.
Looks like we’re going above freezing – w00t!
What with the snow falling while it’s been cold and staying cold (keeping the snow dry, powdery and uncrusted) my back yard has developed these narrow trenches between the woods and my trees where the fluffy tree rats have been bounding.
We’ve been above freezing since November, when it dropped below that for two nights.
+14F here today! More of the same tomorrow and then Sunday brings 8″ of snow followed by a return to sub-zero for at least a week.
You’re always one day ahead of us. We may not get as much snow, Sunday night-Monday morn
for us it’s supposed to start sometime early Sunday afternoon and go into Monday am. Well, I think the Monday part is just supposed to be ground blizzard type stuff.
The worst part of snow storms is knowing that they are almost always followed by bone chilling cold for a few days to a week, or more. I’d gladly take 6″ of snow every week if it would just stay above 0.