Sunday Morning Links of Distinction

It somehow doesn’t feel like a real Sunday without Lamar Jackson babbling incoherently into a microphone after 60 minutes of redefining the quarterback position. Well, at least I’ll be enjoying some vindaloo while watching SP going nuts at the TV set, swaddled in her Green Bay gear. “That Aaron Rodgers, his eyes are just soooooo dreamy…” There’s cold Gruet, and after that and a few bottles of Mike’s Hard Lemonade, I should be ready to cheer on the Bills as they destroy any playoff hopes of the Steelers. It will almost be like a birthday present except it’s not my birthday.

But it IS the birthday of a guy who deserved his glowing recommendations; the most famous farmer of the ’60s; one of the most interesting and sane voices in science; and one of the funniest and most charming people SP and I have ever seen in live performance.

On to the news.

 

Speaking of Baltimore…

 

Speaking of the Ravens… 

 

More Trump antisemitism. Or something.

 

“Whatever it takes to get re-elected.”

 

I think this is kinda hot.

 

The first of several articles from Science. And why I will never give a penny to AAAS.

 

More Science Gone Woke.

 

And yet more Science Gone Woke.

 

Even more Science Gone Woke.

 

Old Guy Music- I just love these guys, pure joy. Pure, pure joy.

 

Comments

390 responses to “Sunday Morning Links of Distinction”

  1. Tres Cool

    1 Bq = 10-6 rad or 27pCi

  2. boorish reviewer comments can have serious negative impacts

    Bullshit.

    1. Quit hogging the spotlight. 4/10 wouldn’t buy again.

    2. Suthenboy

      Right. Not with the people that count.

    3. leon

      I’ve written a whole article about this. Really next time you should link to it.

  3. The Late P Brooks

    Diversity supplements can be used to support students from high school through postdoctoral training. NIH’s previous definition of disadvantaged referred to students whose pursuit of a research career was hampered by living in “an educational environment such as those found in certain rural or inner-city environments.” But that language may have confused people, says Michael Lauer, who leads NIH’s office of extramural research. “What does [that] mean?” Lauer asked in a 26 November blog announcing the change, adding that the phrase “is nearly impossible to evaluate.”

    Mission accomplished.

  4. Suthenboy

    For twenty years I have been warning that ‘wokety wokeness’ was going to take a giant shit on the already shaky credibility of science in the public’s mind.
    It is no accident that progressivism turns everything they touch to shit.

    I wonder, out of one hundred people randomly chosen from the public how many of them even know what science is. My guess, you would have to pick five times that many before you found even one. The same is probably true of college seniors.

  5. Trigger Hippie

    Sciencey supremacy: ‘We consider it irresponsible to override the historical context of this descriptor,…’

    Isn’t that pretty much what you’re doing right now?

    ‘…which risks sustaining divisions in race, gender and class. We call for the community to use ‘quantum advantage’ instead.’

    Pretty sure the word quantum was first used by an early twentieth century, cisgender white male. The most inclusive descriptor is the employment of a series of grunts and fecal-flinging. Get on that shit.

    1. leon

      Once racists use a word it is forever stained.

      1. Suthenboy

        You mean once the wokesters accuse a word of being used by imaginary racists. There is a difference.

        1. leon

          Imaginary is so laden in racist history. We use the word, credible.

        2. MikeS

          ^ This comment is dripping with white quantum advantage. ^

    2. Lackadaisical

      Even worse, by some german guy in the 19th century:

      and the word quantum can be found in the formulation of the first law of thermodynamics by Mayer in his letter[4] dated July 24, 1841.

      https://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/quantum

  6. The Late P Brooks

    NIH’s new definition of disadvantaged—which applies to all of the agency’s programs meant to foster diversity—has seven components. A person is eligible if they have been homeless, or qualified for a free or reduced-priced lunch in elementary or high school, or if they meet the income level requirements to receive a federal Pell grant to help finance their college education. NIH also invites in those who were in foster care, whose parents never graduated from college, or who grew up in a rural area or a region with a shortage of health professionals.

    “We wanted to make it easy for students to self-identify while not being overly redundant,” says Jon Lorsch, director of the National Institute of General Medical Sciences in Bethesda, Maryland, the hub of NIH’s diversity activities. The goal of the supplements remains the same, he says: helping students overcome barriers caused by their low economic status.

    I don’t see anything about any substantive demonstration of knowledge, or aptitude.

    1. Suthenboy

      ‘Overly redundant’

      I see. We wouldn’t want to be overly.

      *facepalm*

    2. juris imprudent

      Well just slap your white, male cis-ness right down on the table.

    3. Old Man With Candy

      Oddly, the young OMWC would have qualified. And refused to participate.

      1. Rhywun

        Ditto and on every criterion except the “foster care” one.

        So what’s the deal? Do they just throw money at you (yes, please!) or do you have to “participate” in some woke nonsense (hell no).

    4. CPRM

      *sends application to NIH* I got that in the bag!

  7. The Late P Brooks

    I wonder, out of one hundred people randomly chosen from the public how many of them even know what science is.

    “It’s sorta like an app, right?”

    1. JD is Unemployed

      A venerated cabal of wise elders who are learned scholars of The Consensus and it’s place in The Narrative. False prophets must be destroyed!

    2. MikeS

      It’s finding he facts needed to confirm your preferred outcome. Right?

    1. l0b0t

      Others use it as part of a ‘circle game’ created on US TV show Malcolm in the Middle, which involves someone making the gesture and holding it below their waist. If someone else looks at it, they get a punch in the arm.

      (emphasis mine)

      WTF?!? We were playing this in grade school in the 1970s.

      1. JD is Unemployed

        Top drawer journalism, as always.

        1. Tres Cool

          Didn’t 4Chan originally start that whole thing?

          1. Suthenboy

            Yes they did. As always the prog idiots are the cat that just cant resist chasing the laser spot. They never learn.

        2. I had never heard of it until the past five years sometime. So I have to wonder about the geographic distribution pre-internet.

          1. JD is Unemployed

            Even in the UK I was playing it >10 years ago.

          2. When I was a teen, it was “Punch Buggy”; I don’t remember the circle game although that doesn’t mean it didn’t exist.

          3. JD is Unemployed

            I’ve only more recently become aware if it being referred to as “the circle game” – I don’t think we called it anything when we did it.

          4. leon

            Yeah we didn’t call it anything but I learned how to play it almost 20 years ago. I remember it pretty well.

          5. CPRM

            Well, Malcolm in the Middle was on almost 20 years ago, so you aren’t disproving this stunningly brave journalist.

          6. I have to wonder about the geographic distribution pre-internet

            Do you answer before reaching the end of the comment?

      2. Trigger Hippie

        Yep, I did that in the early nineties. After puberty took hold, my friends and I moved on to “Odds or Evens”, a game in which you grabbed a pinch of either arm or leg hair and made them guess if the count was, well, odd or even. If you guessed wrong, you got an arm slug, another rip of hair, and another guess. A bad run of luck could leave with a bald patch and a purple shoulder.

      3. juris imprudent

        Circle WHAT?

      4. Old Man With Candy

        ’70s for us as well. My parents even got into the spirit and got my sister at her high school graduation when she looked in their direction. That was 1974…

      5. egould310

        Played it in New Castle, IN circa 1986.

        Also “slug bug”; punch in the arm when spotting a VW Bug.

        “Perdiddle”; punch in the arm when spotting a car with only one headlight.

        1. leon

          That’s not how we played perdiddle….

          1. egould310

            What was your perdiddle?

          2. leon

            Well. It was a variant that you played with one of the female persuasion.

            When you saw a car with one headlight, you hit the roof and whoever was last had to remove an item of clothing.

        2. JD is Unemployed

          There was a variation on “slug bug” in the UK called “yellow car” – yellow as a color for cars seemed to drop off in popularity after the ’90s, though.

      6. MikeS

        I played it in the 80s.

        And some of us started playing it at work about 6 years ago. Not sure who started it.

      7. Ownbestenemy

        Learned from my great uncle back in early 80s…so…jounos doing what they do best.

        Reminds me of when my kids came home singing Batman Smells to the tune of Jingle Bells and claim they made it all up by themselves

    2. Spartacus

      ‘Anyone trying to deny that this is a white power hand signal, are most likely to be white supremacist themselves,’ Nasheed added.

      I think I ruptured my eyes from rolling them so hard.

      1. Suthenboy

        Logic!

      2. Rhywun

        TIL that Tariq is not just an internet troll, he’s “author of dating advice book The Art Of Mackin’“.

        HHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        Never change, The Daily Mail.

    3. Tejicano

      It’s kinda funny – in Japan the “OK” gesture can mean three different things.

      With the forearm generally upright and the opening of the gesture generally towards the viewer it means “OK” like it always has everywhere.

      With the forearm generally horizontal or angled slightly upwards with the palm of the hand facing up, the “ring” of the gesture being vertical, it means “money” (symbolizing a coin).

      And in the right context, done similar to the above “coin” gesture it means “a condom”.

      But I can see that in the woke era we have to find Nazis everywhere.

    4. CPRM

      It’s in the damn dictionary(.com)!

      The origins of the Circle Game are disputed. People anecdotally recall playing the game in the schoolyard in the 1970–80s. Vice traced the game to one, Matthew Nelson, who claims credit for inventing it in New Bremen, Ohio in the early 1980s—though there’s no proof he either created or named the game. The TV show Malcolm in the Middle, which featured the game, helped popularize the Circle Game in the 2000s.

      In the 2010s, references to the Circle Game have grown in popularity, often as an online meme, marking a new digital era of the schoolyard game. Its contemporary usage may be driven by millennial nostalgia (or an effort to capitalize on it) or simply by the possibilities the internet has opened up for the game.

      Pictures of people making the circle with their hand, particularly as a way to photobomb an otherwise serious photograph, are often accompanied by the phrase got ‘em or simply gotem, meaning that the circling hand has “got” whoever is looking at it. Not surprisingly, the popularity of the Circle Game and “got ‘em” has been commercialized to sell t-shirts and coffee mugs.

      1. Spartacus

        Probably a white supremacist wrote that, just to throw off the scent.

        1. Rhywun

          Right? That definition is suspiciously lacking in wokeness.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Good grief, not this shit again. It’s a silly game that guys play among themselves and not a white power symbol. If these guys get bounced for this it’s just another sign that the military is beyond fucking hope.

    6. leon

      I think it’s funny that there are probably people who think the game was made up as a cover for white supremacists.

    7. Cannoli

      Just wait till they notice all the white supremacist hand gestures in baseball games

      1. Pi Guy

        Yadier Molina on the mound: “Yo – why did you bounce that one?”

        Adam Wainwright: “You called for a change‐up.”

        YM: “Nah, dog…”

      2. Trigger Hippie

        I larfed.

  8. l0b0t

    Ah, NOLA… Feral dogs, feral musicians. Had they been just 6 blocks up and over, I would have had to water the plants on my balcony. Tuba Skinny, however, are very nice folk and are playing on a block with no private residences below the 3rd story because they are awesome and respectful of their neighbors.

  9. westernsloper

    Supremacy is for racists — use ‘quantum advantage’

    How about “quantum privilege”? Now that is racist!

    1. Suthenboy

      Supremacy is used in many contexts and the last thing that comes to my mind is racism, but the useful idiot can only see one thing.

    2. juris imprudent

      Schrödinger’s privilege.

      1. westernsloper

        Now I am more confused. This is why I am not a physicist although with a bit of unkempt care I could pull off the hair.

        1. JD is Unemployed

          TIL about the “This man looks like science” meme.

    3. Lackadaisical

      I honestly thought that was what the article was going to be about.

    1. Tres Cool

      Don’t forget the original Wu-Tang Financial.

      1. JD is Unemployed

        Marvellous

      2. Rhywun

        Classic

      3. MikeS

        Oh how I laughed. Good stuff.

      4. Gdragon

        The old extras trying to box each other out on camera and getting pissed is always the best part of that clip, classic move.

  10. The Late P Brooks

    Supreme ruler

    California Gov. Gavin Newsom rejected a bankruptcy restructuring plan by the state’s largest utility, saying it “falls woefully short” of safety standards mandated under state law.

    The governor’s criticisms come a week after Pacific Gas and Electric announced a multibillion-dollar settlement proposal to pay victims of several wildfires linked to the utility’s faulty equipment.

    Newsom’s move complicates PG&E’s efforts to both maintain control of its operations and move quickly through bankruptcy proceedings. PG&E declared bankruptcy in January, announcing it faced potential liabilities of $30 billion.

    In a letter to PG&E CEO William Johnson, Newsom said the utility’s restructuring plans “do not result in a reorganized company positioned to provide safe, reliable and affordable service to its customers.”

    ——-

    Newsom’s approval of the restructuring plan is not required under state law, as the Los Angeles Times points out, adding, “PG&E asked the governor to weigh in after reaching a $13.5-billion settlement with victims of some of California’s worst wildfires on record last week.”

    Jennifer Robison, a spokesperson for PG&E, told the Los Angeles Times that the company disagreed with the governor’s assessment of the restructuring plan, adding the utility would be working “diligently in the coming days to resolve any issues that may arise.”

    The paper notes that the utility has until Tuesday to submit a revised proposal.

    The Sacramento Bee referred to the governor’s letter as a “stunning rebuke” that came just days after PG&E presumed it had reached a settlement deal with lawyers representing “more than 70,000 wildfire victims.”

    The paper added: “But the utility wasn’t home free after all. Now it will have to overhaul the proposal, and quickly.”

    So which is it? Does Newsome have veto power, or doesn’t he? On what, other than feelz (and political grandstanding) is his analysis based?

    1. Then PG&E should just liquidate and cease all operations in California.

      1. Spartacus

        Yep. Just shut down and walk away.

        1. leon

          California: fine we’ll just nationalize the lighting.
          Leftists: see the market can’t provide even electricity.

          Californians: wailing and gnashing of teeth

    2. Suthenboy

      Oh, quit with the snow job and just nationalize it already. The excuses why California has no electricity will be endlessly entertaining.

      1. R C Dean

        Nah, the current setup gives the pols deniability and a whipping boy. You expect them to take responsibility?

        1. Suthenboy

          I remember when South Africa was nationalizing everything. They nationalized the mines (gold and diamonds) thinking they would be swimming in riches.
          *The gold ore there would not be called ore anywhere else in the world. The only reason the mines were barely able to keep their heads above water was the cheap labor, they nearly paid slave wages.
          *The timber company owned by the mining companies was a subsidiary that operated on a loss and was used to supply timbers for the mine and as a tax write-off. Of course the govt claimed that the evil whites had stolen all of the gold and diamonds and that is why the companies couldn’t make money and they could not raise wages. It was the fault of the evil, greedy white capitalists.

          After nationalization the government couldn’t make heads or tails of how to run the company and could not understand what happened to all of the riches they had expected. The mines turned to shit and most of them closed down.
          It isn’t that I expect the pols in CA to take responsibility, it is that I don’t think they have a clue why PG&E is about to fold. They probably think the stinking rich robber barons are hiding the money, hoarding it for themselves and the pols want to get their hands on that. After they nationalize it they will run into the same problems as SA did but I assure you they will find someone else to blame for the disaster. The infrastructure will crumble, the fires will be more frequent and the state will exempt itself from civil liability.
          Same commie shit-show we have seen a hundred times before.

          1. Jarflax

            RSA has not nationalized the mines. There have been rumors about this for years but it is not a real thing, at least not yet. The problem with the gold mines is not ore quality it is extraction cost and depletion of reserves. Mines don’t last for ever. South Africa was a world leader in mining tech and managed to do some really impressive things in the gold mines, including the 2 mile deep shaft East Rand Mine.

            My father bought S African gold mining stocks when Nixon closed the gold window and I have heard waaaaay too much about mining there over the years.

    3. So. this occurred to me as soon as I said to myself, “PG&E needs to go Galt”: Wouldn’t CA just enact legislation to keep the leadership from leaving and shutting down the company? I can’t think of any scenario that would allow PG&E to shut down.

      1. Lackadaisical

        Agreed, it would be illegal.

      2. leon

        “Wouldn’t CA just enact legislation to keep the leadership from leaving and shutting down the company? ”

        They probably would, despite it being compulsory labor. No the only option would be to abandon the company and its assets to be siezed by California, which is most likely going to happen anyway.

        1. At the point CA-run utilities can’t provide electricity to Silicon Valley, there will be a mass exodus except for the shitting and shooting-up homeless in San Francisco.

          1. Drake

            I suspect that every big server farm has it’s own backup generators – some probably can operate cheaper than the PG&E provided power.

  11. I don’t know of Mr. Digby is still around, but he might want to watch Louis Jourdan in Julie, a movie which also showed that Doris Day could really act.

  12. Sensei

    “Whatever it takes to get re-elected.”

    Given his district it’s not that surprising. While the supply or RINOs and the highly endangered Blue Dogs are most certainly dwindling they still seem to be available in the northeast.

  13. CPRM

    For those that didn’t see last night: C’mon, let’s save democracy! Yes We Can!

    1. JD is Unemployed

      Signed!

  14. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Woke science leads to collapsing bridges, vaccines that don’t work, and theories that are easily discredited by the nonwoke. Don’t worry, this will all work itself out, just try to not get killed in the process.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Villains

    Tens of trillions of global investment dollars are pouring into companies touting robust environmental, social and governance credentials. Now short-sellers spy an opportunity.

    ——-

    Investments defined as “sustainable” account for more than a quarter of all assets under management globally, according to the Global Sustainable Investment Alliance. About $31 trillion has been invested, buoyed by analyst reports that show companies with strong ESG narratives outperform their peers.

    Some short-sellers, including Carson Block of Muddy Waters, Josh Strauss of Appleseed Capital and Chad Slater of Morphic Asset Management, argue share prices can be bolstered by corporate misrepresentation about sustainability, or so-called “greenwashing”.

    “Greenwashing is absolutely rampant now,” says Slater, whose fund bets on both rising and falling share prices. If companies fail to engage with long-term investors, he sees a red flag.

    “From the short side, it’s quite interesting.”

    Analytics companies that provide corporate ESG ratings use a combination of company disclosures, news sources and qualitative analysis of third-party data. They are a major source of information for investors, but it is not an exact science.

    Hedge funds have various strategies for selecting targets, often focusing on those they think show both ESG and more traditional financial or operational weakness. A high ESG rating can attract short interest.

    Short sellers, they’re the worst. Always calling bullshit on corporate pie-in-the-sky schemes.

    1. Spartacus

      Don’t worry, President Warren will ban short selling. And tax all the profits away from going long. Then at last will we have the worker’s paradise an America for everyone!!

    2. leon

      Isn’t there a commenter or libertarian who thinks short selling should be banned?

      1. straffinrun

        There would be ways around any attempt at banning it unless they really want to go full authoritarian.

        1. I wasted a lot of time trying to think of ways to encourage long-term thinking in corporations, but always came up with a workaround almost as soon as I’d had an idea.

      2. Sensei

        Sure, why not. Also get rid of options. And so nobody speculates in futures let’s make sure that you have to take physical delivery.

        1. leon

          Why even let people buy stocks it’s all very derivative.

      3. Suthenboy

        No.
        That isn’t to say there aren’t people who call themselves such who are for banning shorting.

    3. Lackadaisical

      Investments defined as “sustainable” account for more than a quarter of all assets under management globally, according to the Global Sustainable Investment Alliance.

      Smells like their definition is bullshit.

      Is Saudi Aramco ‘sustainable’ because they reuse their oil barrels or something?

    4. Suthenboy

      “A high ESG rating can attract short interest.”

      Funniest and most telling thing I will read today

      1. Sensei

        ESG funds generally underperform their category benchmarks. The push is try to get enough of them to create an ESG variant benchmark.

        Aside from Millennials they are attractive to religious organizations as well.

        I’d never invest in one, but I don’t have an issue with their creation. Problem there is currently a bit of land grab in how to create one and what organizations get to give them their stamp of approval. For example, is it OK to having Boeing in your portfolio? They make airliners, but also do lots of defense work. Some screens would permit this and other preclude it.

        1. dbleagle

          Just watch “The Big Short”. The signs for the real estate collapse were all there, but only a few people looked at the data and not the brochures. Even after extremely questionable, and at times illegal, tactics of the banking, regulatory and ratings industries- economic reality broke through. The “shorts” were correct and made their money.

  16. The Late P Brooks

    Don’t worry, this will all work itself out, just try to not get killed in the process.

    Take the stairs, not the elevator.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    War on COPS!

    Starbucks is apologizing after a California sheriff’s office said two of their deputies were ignored in a store.
    “Two of our deputies were refused service at Starbucks,” Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco said on Twitter. “The anti police culture repeatedly displayed by Starbucks employees must end.”
    The sheriff’s department said on Twitter Friday it was aware of the “cop with no coffee” incident that took place Thursday night.
    Starbucks spokesman Reggie Borges told CNN the deputies were ignored for nearly five minutes — and there’s no excuse for that.

    OMG those precious delicate lambywambies. It will require years of counseling and disability leave to restore their self esteem.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Those whiny bitches, the cops I mean, need to be fired. If you think you were targeted for nonservice don’t go back there or maybe lodge a complaint but otherwise keep your mouth shut like a normal person.

      1. leon

        Nah man. If they complain then the cheif of police gets to come in and swing his dick around making sure his men get the respect they deserve from the common rabble

    2. leon

      “““The anti police culture repeatedly displayed by Starbucks employees must end.””

      The correct response to this should have been: procedures we’re followed, the employees feared for their lives. The important thing is that every barista makes it home safe.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        LOL.

        You forgot totality of circs

        1. leon

          Ahh yes. I inker knew I missed one.

      2. Chafed

        Perfect. Right on the money.

    3. Lackadaisical

      Reggie Borges told CNN the deputies were ignored for nearly five minutes — and there’s no excuse for that.

      You mean they were treated like any other customer?

      1. Fourscore

        I guess they don’t go to Denny’s. Everyone gets ignored there. 5 minutes? Whatya think this, some sorta fast food. Hahahaha

  18. The Late P Brooks

    Isn’t there a commenter or libertarian who thinks short selling should be banned?

    The goofball from Overstock, who identifies as some subspecies of libertarian, has been waging a PR war against short sellers for years.

    1. leon

      Ahhh yeah. Did some sort of crypto scheme to cut them out.

      1. Jarflax

        If you want to protect your company from the shorts don’t go public. If you want to encourage long term thinking end estate taxes. Privately held, owner run companies have fewer incentives to short term thinking, and are not vulnerable to short sellers.

  19. The Late P Brooks

    Last month, the police chief in Kiefer, Oklahoma, said one of his officers picked up a coffee order from a local Starbucks that had the word “PIG” printed on the label.

    That’s just a harmless little time saving acronym. It’s P I G, for Person In Government. Sheesh.

    Lighten up, Francis.

  20. Rhywun

    “Jew coup”

    Or as Obama called it, “Jew coop”.

    1. Sensei

      Isn’t that in Park Slope?

      https://www.foodcoop.com/

      1. Tres Cool

        Ive been there!

        1. Sensei

          https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/25/the-grocery-store-where-produce-meets-politics

          Enjoy! There are mandatory work requirements. So naturally some of the more equal members tried to hire folks to do their mandatory annual 3 hour or shift and it created an uproar and several articles about the issue.

          1. Tres Cool

            A woman I used to date lived up the street from there.

          2. leon

            “It is against one of the Co-op’s many rules for the shopper to have the walker do the pushing; that’s the shopper’s responsibility. It is also against the rules to drag a walker beyond the Co-op’s strict walking bounds,”

            This is what life with strong unions looks like.

      2. Rhywun

        My hippie friend used to “work” there. I just rolled my eyes at him.

      3. l0b0t

        Park Slope Co-OP is fully aboard the BDS ship of tools. They made a big show, a few years ago, of getting rid of any product made in Israel. When I worked at a nearby hardware store, my adorable little FTM tranny manager was constantly trying to get to join. Fuck that! This is NYC; there are supermarkets everywhere.

    2. Gender Traitor

      Didn’t the Beach Boys have a song about that?

      1. Tres Cool

        sup’ shamikhin

        1. Gender Traitor

          Just chillin’ How ’boutchoo?

          (Ummm…what’s a shamikhin? Is it good? If it isn’t, please don’t tell me.)

    3. CPRM

      I still say it wasn’t mispronunciation by Obama, it was a slip up revealing the secret government zombie army!

      *Chews Tinfoil, Adjusts Headgear*

      1. How dare you malign the brave corpsemen of the Secret Zombie Army?!

    4. Tres Cool

      Would a sedan built in Israel be a Jew Coupe ?

      1. Floridaman

        No because a sedan is a 4 door car, while a coupe only has 2.

        1. If someone steals the back doors off a sedan, does it make a convertable coupe?

  21. The Late P Brooks

    The new season of The Expanse is out. I watched about five minutes of “Previously, on The Expanse…” and found myself saying, “Wait- I don’t remember any of that stuff,” so off to re-watch season 3.

    I had forgotten how obnoxious that pudgy “badass Martian Marine GRRRRL” was. Also, the sanctimonious lesbo speech writer. STFU, you tiresome pious twat.

      1. zwak

        And that’s a Hard Would. Extreme prejudice.

        1. Lackadaisical

          I’m not saying wouldn’t, she has a nice body, but that face?

          1. zwak

            I think she’s cute. But I like the apple cheeked.

    1. Rhywun

      I’ve watched S03 twice already and I still bet I will have to watch it again before (if/when) S04 is released in some format I can accept. The season was pretty busy.

  22. Aloysious

    Tuba Skinny is the awesome. I could watch Shaye Cohn all day long.

    1. Tejicano

      They’re pretty cool. Didn’t know about them – but I’ve been listening to a bunch of what they have on youtube while perusing these here comments tonight.

  23. Lackadaisical

    Under the program, NIH grantees such as Drake can win additional funding, called diversity supplements, to aid students from one of several groups underrepresented in biomedical research. Some 90% of the awards made in 2018 serve students who are Hispanic or African American, whereas fewer than 1% of investigators cite the category of economically “disadvantaged” when applying for a diversity supplement.

    Someone please explain how this is not institutional racism?

    “I was a single mother on Medicaid and food stamps during part of my student years, and also the first in my family to go to college, but I never thought of it as being a disadvantage,” says a researcher who has led diversity efforts at her institution. “I am also averse to playing the hardship card.”

    Uh… hm… Not sure how to square this circle.

    And money is not an impediment. Lorsch estimates that NIH could, without straining its budget, accommodate a 10-fold increase in the number of supplement applications that cite the disadvantaged category; in 2018 there were fewer than 11 such applications.

    Wait… so when they said fewer than 1% applied under the economic conditions, they really meant no one?

    1. Rhywun

      Someone please explain how this is not institutional racism?

      That ship sailed decades ago.

    2. Suthenboy

      “Someone please explain how this is not institutional racism?”

      I think science and logic dictate that racism only works in one direction. Only white people are racist and all white people are racist.
      Does that clear things up?

  24. leon

    https://reason.com/2019/12/11/an-lgbt-discrimination-compromise-bill-is-proposed-in-an-uncompromising-culture/


    Several Republican lawmakers have introduced a compromise bill that would provide gay and transgender people federal discrimination protections while still preserving some ability for religious organizations and nonprofits to seek exemptions.”

    So the compromise is : you have to get your religious beleifs veted by the government or else be liable for being sued.

    1. Here’s my compromise – We restore the right to free association, and abolish all “Protected classes” and all torts for ‘discrimination’. You have to right to associate or not associate with anyone for any reason whatsoever.

    2. leon

      Oh geeze. The comments get hihntastic fast.

      I know this place can be a bit of a bubble, but if the alternative is having to accept hihn, then that is fine.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        What, you don’t miss having a frothing turd in the commentariat punch bowl every weekend?

        I can’t remember who first put forth this theory at TOS, maybe mexican sharpshooter, but they said that the real Hihn completely lost his mind a few years before the exodus and Nikki secretly took over his account to troll everyone even harder than Hihn. Who knows….

        1. blackjack

          STOP WITH THE VERBAL VIOLENCE, BULLY!?!?!?!

      2. Someone explain Hihn to me, please. I could never tell what he went on about and couldn’t figure out his opinion on anything.

        1. Suthenboy

          Something you have in common with everyone else, including Hihn.

          1. That clears things up. Thank you.

        2. Lackadaisical

          He’s either a very successful troll (most likely, imo), or a mentally deranged person. Most of his comments seem to be anti -conservative in nature rather than having any particular foundation in libertarian thought, afaict.

          1. Tejicano

            I only have a long-lost, vague recollection of him – but it was something like the base definition of bat-shyte crazy.

          2. Trigger Hippie

            My favorite all time exchange with him was when he called me a fanatical right-wing goober for being pro-choice for the wrong reasons.

          3. leon

            I’m upset I never made his list.

          4. Trigger Hippie

            #metoo

          5. kbolino

            Yeah, that was disappointing. It was quite a long list but I didn’t make the cut.

          6. leon

            Yeah. If one is too not write him off as a troll, and I am so inclined, he has a strong anti-right-libertarian bent. The paulistas have ruined libertarianism. This article is further evidence because it is granting a privilege to the religious (he ignores that its protecting a right that everyone should have).

            I don’t think he’s a troll. Trolls are different. I think he is mentally unstable, and probably never has his kids visit at the old folks home.

        3. kbolino

          I once got him to admit he was wrong, which makes me discount him as a troll and think of him as human. Somebody else (IRL I think) had to point out the error but he did own up to it. I went easier on him after that, but he eventually would start accusing people of stalking him and bullying him. This guy would insult anybody he didn’t like and always had to get the last word. Even if he wasn’t a troll, he was projecting all of his faults on everyone else.

        4. Pi Guy

          Hihn has been libertarianing harder and longer than any living human and, so, is The One True Libertarian.

          Just ask him.

    3. Lackadaisical

      Wow, sounds likes cosmotopia.

      Fucking republicans.

      A large chain bakery or grocery store would be expected to make those gay wedding cakes (and they all do already because they like making money), while small businesses like Masterpiece Cakeshop in Colorado or Arlene’s Flowers in Washington state would still be able to decline to provide services for same-sex weddings because of their religious objections to recognizing gay marriage.

      Yup, right until a democrat is at the reins of power and questions the sincerity of your religious beliefs and puts you through the legal ringer.

      1. Bureaucrats.

        They do now and always have run everything.

        1. Ever since someone wanted to not bother making all the little decisions.

        2. Lackadaisical

          I’m sure that’ll be a good part of it, but they know when best to strike to make their careers advance.

      2. Lackadaisical

        and for some reason, an atheist organization, all blasting the bill.

        ‘for some reason’ heh.

        Probably because some ‘atheist’ orgs are really just anti-christian/religious.

      3. leon

        “questions the sincerity of your religious beliefs and puts you through the legal ringer”

        Look, the founders didn’t mean to protect your false religious beliefs. They couldn’t have forseen Congress flouting plainly written constitutional clauses and the courts going along with if, so clearly your bad faith attempt at circumventing the law by faking a religious beliefs is not protected.

    4. Lackadaisical

      One last thing just hit me.

      How is this a compromise? The conservatives/religious give up something, and they get back…?

      Literally nothing. These ‘loopholes’ will be nothing more than something to be closed at the first opportunity by leftists on the next ‘compromise’ they make with republicans.

      1. leon

        This is the Republican party the Democrats want back.

      2. Trigger Hippie

        Remember, for congressional (R)’s, compromise is dinner and a rubber before bending over.

  25. Lackadaisical

    From the other woker science article:

    The panel’s advice included mandating that NIH-funded institutions report confirmed harassers to NIH as well as broad changes aimed at changing the culture of biomedical science to make it less dominated by white men.

    …and more institutionalized racism.

  26. PieInTheSky

    My mom bought half a small pig yesterday (I was considering writing a post on the Romania pig tradition at christmas) and I just made some ribs, 1 hour in the oven at 140 degrees, just salt peeper and thyme. While I get some more complex rib rubs/sauces/flavorings, this very simple way works really well for me, simple fresh stuff.

    1. PieInTheSky

      goes well with some Stonewine Feteasca Naagra 2011

      1. PieInTheSky

        *Neagra

        1. Tejicano

          …please

    2. Rosemary for pork.

      1. PieInTheSky

        the left one I think

    3. Cannoli

      I like to make ribs with those spices + sage, very tasty.

    4. CPRM

      You gonna pickle some pigsfeet?

      1. PieInTheSky

        no the feet go towards headcheese and aspic

    5. Suthenboy

      Ribs here day before yesterday. My Kumquat bushes are loaded with the most beautiful fruit so I picked a gallon or so of them (probably 100lbs left on the bushes) and cooked them down. I added honey, lots of brown sugar, some garlic, vinegar and a couple of splashes of Worcestershire sauce.
      Near the end of grilling the ribs I basted them down and let that sauce turn into a glaze. My mouth is watering just thinking about it. Yum.

    6. Old Man With Candy

      Your name was taken in vain last night as we marveled at how good a $6 Feteasca Neagra was drinking. And I was totally unfamiliar with this variety until you told us about it.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    So. this occurred to me as soon as I said to myself, “PG&E needs to go Galt”: Wouldn’t CA just enact legislation to keep the leadership from leaving and shutting down the company? I can’t think of any scenario that would allow PG&E to shut down.

    It’s not as if they can pull up all the power poles and roll the wires up and take them to Nevada.

    Newsome will make them an offer they can’t refuse. And then the geniuses at Bloomberg and the MSNBC Business Channel will scratch their chins and wonder why all the utility stocks crashed.

    1. Naw, I mean, just packing up their offices en masse and going to play golf forever, walking away from it leaving it to crash and burn.

      1. A lot of the line workers won’t.

        1. A company can’t survive indefinitely with only the peons working. Who’s signing the paychecks?

          1. It means the main carcass will still be there when Commiefornia nationalizes it.

          2. leon

            The people paying for electricity duh. And if will be cheaper without having to pay those do nothing execs

    1. leon

      “I’m with you. I’m sad that this administration brings this feeling out in me, but I do enjoy seeing racists get pounded into mush.”

      It’s Trump’s fault I’m hateful!

    2. Yeah, I noticed that trending.

      Funny the difference in reaction between this and Colin Kaepernick. Principals, not principles.

  28. hayeksplosives

    Hi everyone !

    Tired and hungover

    1. Is it at least the side effect of a good time instead of something sad?

      1. hayeksplosives

        Yeah, silly late night texting with a dear friend

    2. hayeksplosives

      Go bears . (Hic)

    3. Tejicano

      Hi!

      Hair of the dog, perhaps?

      1. hayeksplosives

        Yeah there is cheap champagne in the fridge so perhaps mimosas.

        In my drunken insomnia I made half a dozen deviled eggs, knowing I’d be hungry when I got back up.

        —>high functioning

        1. Tejicano

          Ooh! Organized are we? I’m on board with that.

          I’m up late because I’m home for a weekend between projects. Just got back from Shanghai yesterday afternoon and on a flight to Sapporo tomorrow. Good to see my boys but also nice to be needed in a way that pays well.

          1. Glad to hear you made it out of China safe.

          2. Tejicano

            Thanx – China is definitely a vibe of its own. I can hack it and actually perform well there. But I would probably turn it down if they weren’t paying so well.

          3. hayeksplosives

            Best of luck and happy trails!

          4. Tejicano

            Much appreciated. These are really short projects – probably the best for me in that they require some tech knowledge + industry background + language + organization on the fly. Pretty much my forte. Nice that it puts me in nice digs with meals covered.

    4. Tres Cool

      Pickle Juice FTW

  29. Lackadaisical

    I thought we were going to stomp the steelers today, but I didn’t realize they had that good of a record.

    I also didn’t realize that the game will be on super late. Fucking west coast.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Whoah there. You want to fuck the west coast ? I haven’t even sent my address to you!

      1. Lackadaisical

        Figured I’d just start in San Diego and work my way up until I got everybody.

        1. hayeksplosives

          Alright alright . Let me brush my hair and put on my Fuck Me boots…

        2. Hyperion

          It’s a challenge. You have to fuck the commie out of all of them. We’ll do one of those Viking funerals for you, proclaiming you a great hero.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Straight outta Norsemen

      2. Trigger Hippie

        *widens eyes*

        So,…wanna be pen pals? Ha!

        1. hayeksplosives

          Mebbe..

          1. Tres Cool

            Im in!

          2. hayeksplosives

            lol

            Flatterers !

          3. Tres Cool

            SP is authorized to give you my email, in the event you need a safe repository for any……”boudoir photos”.

          4. Trigger Hippie

            Just wait until she’s a little sauced and feeling frisky late one evening. Some of those shortlived pics were…revealing.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          penis pals

          Is that what they are calling dick pics nowadays?

          1. Trigger Hippie

            I think that’s when gay dudes mail each other hand-written erotic poems about crossing swords or something.

  30. Hyperion

    “Speaking of Baltimore…”

    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

    Not sure if this one has made the rounds yet, but…

    ALL BEHOLD THE HORROR OF THE WARRENSANDERS!

    So, this dude is a parody account, right?

    1. leon

      Robert Riech

      If he is parody, he’s the best damn Troll ever.

    2. Rhywun

      One whopper after another. Do better, The Guardian.

      1. They’re preparing for their new career at Burger King.

    3. Fourscore

      “What motivates people most is a candidate who stands for average people and against power and privilege”

      Except for the part about average people RR sounds like Newsome (Cali). He’s against power, too

    4. Old Man With Candy

      same as the old boss.

      Literally.

    5. White people, amirite?

  31. Well, the Chiefs play at noon. We have church at 1:00 through 3:00 (come on, schedule change!). Instead of just staying home, Mr. Mojeaux will surreptitiously watch the game on his phone all the way through it.

    1. Trigger Hippie

      You’re snowed in! Yeah, God will buy that.

      1. Alas, not so much.

      1. Tres Cool

        You’re brilliant!
        I knew what it was before I even clicked.

    2. hayeksplosives

      There is a mist excellent and probably illegal app for phones called “Pro Radio.” Plays all nfl games live radio broadcasts and has a very up to date scoreboard as well.

      In the App Store it looks like a white helmet against a green field, with wireless signals emitting from the helmet.

      1. He uses Yahoo Sports and doesn’t use sound.

  32. Hyperion

    There’s a little German Christmas market they have going on here and they have mugs of German beer. We’re heading down there in a couple hours or so. Not sure what is wrong with me this morning, I feel terrible and only had a few beers last night and woke up feeling awful. In comparison, Friday night I drank quite a few beers and woke up feeling great yesterday morning. Too less beer? Ugh…

    1. MikeS

      That sounds like a lot of fun. Ein Bier, bitte.

  33. Tundra

    Good morning, Old Man!

    And a good morning to all of you liberty-lovers!

    Annoying science lynx – I’ll make sure and share them with my daughter. She is becoming quite the little shitlord and those should make fire shoot from her eyes!

    But to follow those with Tuba Skinny (which I will also share with Spawn 2) was inspired.

    I forgot to commemorate a major anniversary yesterday, one of my favorite albums turned 40!

    Not too shabby.

    I hope each and every one of you has a flawless day!

    Go Vikes!

    1. Gender Traitor

      Top of the mornin’ to ya, Tundra!

      She is becoming quite the little shitlord

      Not to quibble, but “shitlady,” if you please. (Or perhaps }}shitlady{{?) I’d like to make that a thing.

      Always happy to see your cheerful self!

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        The etymology of “lord” is that it comes from the Old English for “loaf-keeper”.

        If you’ve bought bread, you’re a lord.

        1. No, it’s not if you’ve bought bread, but if you control the oven,

          1. Tundra

            You know who else controlled the ovens?

          2. egould310

            Betty Crocker?

          3. Trigger Hippie

            Sara Lee?

          4. leon

            Maytag Man?

          5. CPRM

            The current Maytag Man was great on Eureka.

          6. egould310

            Ovens. Short, sweet, jangly, stupid. https://youtu.be/snTyvx7SNQw

          7. egould310

            The Oh Sees: Peanut Butter Oven https://youtu.be/Avdo1enZRQ4

          8. egould310

            The Cavves: Coven in My Oven https://youtu.be/DDMHUeDr_eo

          9. egould310

            Half Man Half Biscuit: Joy Division Oven Gloves https://youtu.be/Dc3eQpmnRbg

        2. hayeksplosives

          That sounds a bit moldy and stale.

          Not buying your day-old explanation

          1. Tejicano

            I guess that depends on how you slice it

          2. egould310

            At yeast he had an explanation.

            We certainly don’t knead more puns.

          3. Pope Jimbo

            Fine work! Let’s hear it for HE! *raises glass in toast*

          4. hayeksplosives

            Mmm.. toast.

            Slathered up in Kerrygold butter

            No pun, just loving Kerrygold

          5. CPRM

            Irish butter!? NY Cheese!? Why come you glibs no support my state’s cronyism!?

        3. Gender Traitor

          Interesting! What’s the etymology of “lady”? Not that I couldn’t look it up myself, but I respect your expertise much more than what I might stumble across on the Internet at large.

          My high school had a one-semester Etymology class taught by the Latin teacher, so mostly Greek and Latin root words. It was one of my favorites, and I like to think it helped me on the Verbal portion of the SAT.

          1. Rhywun

            Old English hlǣfdīge – from hlāf ‘loaf’ + a Germanic base meaning ‘knead’, related to dough

            Huh.

          2. Pope Jimbo

            etymology of “lady”

            Look I will not sit idly by while you denigrate females. I know your handle is Gender Traitor, but why would you think it is funny to think that female titles come from the study of bugs? That sort of hate has no place on a family friendly site.

          3. Gender Traitor

            Well, they DO call them “ladybugs” and not “lordbugs,” right? (Gratuitous link to my favorite graphic artist, who was fond of the motif.)

        4. Old Man With Candy

          Me, I’m more of a loaf pincher.

          1. westernsloper

            Booo!!! that joke stinks.

        5. Suthenboy

          Bought? I imagine the term came from the guy that took all o the bread at the point of a sword and was then. in charge of rationing it out to goodthinkers, i.e. the ones that bowed down properly. So really, the meaning hasn’t changed one whit.

      2. Tundra

        Ah, noted. “Shitlady” it is!

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Shitlord, shitlady, shitlX. I don’t care exactly what you people end up on as long as we keep being our humble selves. I will brook no bragging or boasting. And I better not hear a peep about shit supremacy!

          1. hayeksplosives

            I just go by Whore. Saves time

      3. Trigger Hippie

        {{shitlady}}

        Okay, now you’re just trying to get HM to link a video.

        1. Tejicano

          Wha? HM is German? Not sure I’m following…

          1. Trigger Hippie

            I just assume there’s a dark vault of videos he keeps in reserve to torment his enemies and arouse perverts, er, Germans.

        2. Fourscore

          {{shitlady}}

          Forgot the comma and question mark

  34. The Late P Brooks

    How is this a compromise? The conservatives/religious give up something, and they get back…?

    Compromise, surrender, what’s the diff?

    Stop being such a quibbler. Next time, the conservatives will get everything they want. Pinky swears.

    1. Hyperion

      We have to reach across the aisle and get things done for the American people. Things they really want, like higher taxes and less freedom. We’re passing out free vaseline. /your betters

    2. leon

      Next TIme:

      Thos aren’t conservatives. They are just Nazis

    3. Lackadaisical

      Ah yes, just vote to raise taxes, and then we’ll definitely get what we want!

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Apparently, my local NBC affiliate is have technical difficulties. No Chuckie Todd, today. How will I know what to think?

    1. Hyperion

      Go to DU, they’ll get you on the right thinking path.

    2. MikeS

      We’ll tell you.

  36. Heroic Mulatto

    In our view, ‘supremacy’ has overtones of violence, neocolonialism and racism through its association with ‘white supremacy’. Inherently violent language has crept into other branches of science as well — in human and robotic spaceflight, for example, terms such as ‘conquest’, ‘colonization’ and ‘settlement’ evoke the terra nullius arguments of settler colonialism and must be contextualized against ongoing issues of neocolonialism.

    *sigh*

    In order to do what I currently do, I had to study things like combinatorics and Fourier analysis. I never thought that made me a quantum physicist, so why do so many others think they are linguists? This call for language sanitation through euphemism reeks of a simplistic understanding of the relationship between language and thought. I think even George Lakoff would find this risible.

    1. leon

      I think even George Lakoff would find this risible.

      You know who didn’t find something wisible

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        I didn’t expect that.

    2. kbolino

      Don’t worry, I’m sure these people are taking over linguistics, too.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    This call for language sanitation through euphemism reeks of a simplistic understanding of the relationship between language and thought.

    Call it an “ancillary sanitation unit” if you want. Your outhouse still smells like shit when you open the door.

    1. leon

      The Funny things is this creates a dominant strategy for racists. They just have to adopt the new terms for themselves and then everyone esle will have to start changing their language again. For example: if the White supremacists start calling themselves White Advantage proponents, then We’ll have to stop using terms like Comparative Advantage, Quantum Advantage, etc.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        You mean how 4chan is trolling right now?

        1. leon

          well… Yeah.

  38. Tundra

    Question for the group: any of you use a tablet to take handwritten notes? Do you like it? iPad or Surface or…?

    1. No, I’d spend more time arguing with the electronics than either taking notes ore paying attention. Paper or keyboard.

    2. MikeS

      Yes, Surface. It took a bit of getting used to, but I like it.

    3. blackjack

      My laptop is convertible, so it has a touch screen. It’s great for scrolling because I hate touchpads, but I can’t stand writing on screens. It just doesn’t work for me. Paper, not plastic.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      I’ve made multiple attempts and I always default back to paper/pen.

      The greatest tech advancement in this area is the ability to take a pic of the whiteboard with your cell phone before it gets erased.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        ^^^^^

    5. Drake

      I gave it up and just type notes into One Note.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    The etymology of “lord” is that it comes from the Old English for “loaf-keeper”.

    If you’ve bought bread, you’re a lord.

    No, no, no. You’ve got it all wrong.

    A Lord is a loafer, as in loafing parasite who lives on the stolen labor of his serfs.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      Seems legit.

  40. Lackadaisical

    Hopefully Jarflax won’t mind my sharing this with you folks:

    Jarflax on December 14, 2019 at 7:07 pm

    So I have created another Diplomacy game.

    Glib Diplomats 2
    invite code: SMITH

    Just a reminder, while the game shows as starting in 7 days, the game actually starts when all 7 spots fill. 1 day per phase. Join if you want.

    I think we need 2 more yet.

  41. hayeksplosives

    Have I told you guys how much I hate Elf on the Shelf??

    https://imgur.com/a/XS3dKm5

    1. Just waterboarding?

    2. You know, I never knew about that until I was in my late 20s or early 30s. I was like, WTF is this and why is it cool and/or fun?

      1. I find it disturbing.

        1. Yeah, it’s more than a little creepy.

          1. STAB STAB STAB

      2. CPRM

        I only heard of it when Mensch on a Bench was on Shark Tank.

        1. hayeksplosives

          Oh I am in tears of laughter .

          That is rich!

      3. Jarflax

        The problem with Elf on a shelf is not that it is creepy, the mischievous elf is the fun part. It is that after a year or two you find yourself at midnight walking around the house with no more creative ideas, yet not wanting to disappoint the little ones. This is how you end up with a Christmas tree redecorated in underwear.

        1. This is how you end up with a Christmas tree redecorated in underwear.

          *picturing tree covered in tighty whities*

          Um…

          1. Jarflax

            Boxers Ma’am, boxers.

          2. At least he didn’t raid the temple garments.

    3. You mean the Rat on the Mantle? I don’t like his chances in the Naptown household. Honestly, it is creepy as hell. I sort of get the inspiration behind it, but it’s still real gross. I don’t want my kids making moral choices based on being observed by a voodoo fetish that’s going to narc on them come the holiday season. I’m working on establishing a healthy combination of awe and paranoia in my daughter about how I just happen to know everything she’s done that she thinks she kept secret, and that’s enough. I’m not going to outsource that shit to a lanky doll.

      Besides, in my household, it goes like this: God => Me ~ Mme. Naptown => The Pets => Les Enfants Naptown. And, frankly, my response time is much better than Jesus’s. Holiday decorations and fairy tales don’t rank.

      1. hayeksplosives

        Amen to that.

        Actual Christianity emphasizes the fact that men will never be good enough to “earn” heaven. For all have fallen short of the Glory of God.

        The whole point is that you can’t earn heaven with good works; you are granted eternal life through grace alone, earned by Christ, freely given if you embrace it.

        (Yeah yeah, I know it’s superstitious to a bunch of you, but that’s what Christians believe)

        That’s why the Bible includes the story of the thief being crucified next to Jesus. The thief proclaims his belief in Jesus, and Jesus says he’ll see him in heaven.

        Important because obviously the thief/criminal didn’t have a chance to do “good works” and earn heaven.

        Fuck elf on the shelf and Santa and the NSA

        1. Yeah, that’s it exactly if I’m being serious. In my house we do one or two things from Santa but we’re upfront about the presents being from us. So yeah, if you’re behaving like a little shit we’re not going to buy you gifts. That has nothing to do with God or why you should try to be a good person or anything else. That’s a totally separate equation. In other words, I’m uncomfortable injecting the metaphysical or supernatural or spiritual aspects of moral behavior into gift-giving holiday traditions and silly dolls. My parental spy network is entirely mundane and understood to be so by all parties. The only supernatural agency in my house you’ve got to worry about trying to impress is God, and that shit’s between you and Him.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Nice job

          2. I kinda did something I’m not proud of and very proud of at the same time.

            XX was being an entitled little shit (6? 7?) as she had been for some weeks, and I said I wasn’t going to get her X thing. She screamed at me, “Santa will!”

            “THERE IS NO SANTA! I AM SANTA!”

            The look on her face was at once heartbreaking and schadelicious.

            She was really too young for that. I probably should’ve held my tongue. On the other hand, it felt GOOOOOD.

          3. Our compromise position has been that Santa kind of exists but he’s not really that big a deal. Sure, there’s a Santa, but he’s really only good for maybe one or two decent gifts. Real, actual people spend their own money to buy you the good stuff, so that’s who you want to impress. So, when I tell you that if you don’t pick your toys up I’m giving your presents to the dogs to chew on, Santa’s not gonna be able to help you.

      2. Jarflax

        It has nothing to do with making the kids think they are being spied on to get them to behave. It is a cute thing you move around each night to make funny tableaux. The little ones get excited wanting to see what hijinx the elf got upto overnight. Y’all are way to serious about this!

        1. hayeksplosives

          My mom put up the nativity crèche every year, minus the baby Jesus figure.

          Every day, she moved a beautiful gold origami star a few inches from West to East in the house, until finally on Christmas morning, the star was over the Crèche and baby Jesus was in the manger

          1. hayeksplosives

            We kids actually ran faster to look at the nativity scene on Christmas morning than we ran to the stockings!

            Kids love tradition and predictability

          2. MikeS

            That’s pretty cool

        2. MikeS

          Ah, well I see Jarflax is an NSA bot.

        3. A) I didn’t know it existed until I was way into adulthood so it’s creepy.

          B) I don’t have that kind of imagination. My kids have an advent do-hickey.

        4. We do an Advent calendar. It’s a wooden one, and each day either has a piece of candy or a hint to something hidden around the house, usually a small gift or like a Snickers or something.

          The dogs usually handle the humorous tableaux, if your sense of humor runs to upended trash cans and the frying pan you didn’t bother cleaning last night finding it’s way onto the couch.

  42. ttyrant

    Good choice with Tuba Skinny, OMWC. They came up to Milwaukee a few years ago to play at Best Place, a small bar located in the old Pabst Brewery complex. They’re a lot of fun — hearing them makes me want to go swing dancing again.

    Happy Sunday, all.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Double-T, we are thinking of having a Glibs meetup soon. Since you are a n00b, we don’t have your email. Drop me a line pope @ jimbo.church and I’ll make sure you get an invite.

      1. ttyrant

        Done.

  43. Pope Jimbo

    I’d like to give a shout out to Fourscore this morning. He let me escape his compound yesterday after a nice chat. Drinking a cup of coffee with him yesterday was the ray of sunshine for Saturday.

    After leaving him, I went and met some buddies for an attempt to ice fish. Lots of equipment failure and no fish.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Isn’t that the point? Go hang out with other dudes in snowmobiled suits, drinking and secretly hoping nobody actually catches a fish?

      1. Pope Jimbo

        You have to catch fish. How else would you know who has the biggest dick? It is a well known scientific fact that the person who catches the biggest fish has the longest dick and the person who catches the most fish has the fattest dick.

        1. CPRM

          Speaking of catching fish, let me know the next time you’re passing by to go fishing this spring. I’ll let you buy me a beer.

    2. blackjack

      You’re supposed to claim you caught fish. Then, you drove home in your 700 hp truck.

      1. Rhywun

        I think Greta just had a stroke.

        1. blackjack

          I’m sure I’ll end up against the wall.

        2. Jarflax

          Hey you need that 700 hp because when you drive it until the smoke cloud over the hood gets too thick for you to see the road the hp gradually decrease. You get a good 150,000 miles on the last 4 cylinders on a good coal burner!

        3. The other nun couldn’t reach that far.

    3. Fourscore

      Jimbo is a better hunter than I am, dropped off pheasants (I’m guessing hens that he was concerned about) and stole some of Mrs Jimbo’s creations from the refrig. The Fourscores are happy campers. Traveling with the Pope is first class.

      1. hayeksplosives

        *kneels to kiss the Pope’s ring*

        1. Pope Jimbo

          *grabs HE with ringless hands*
          *gently explains that only Mrs. Pope can kiss the ring*

          1. hayeksplosives

            Lol.

            Skol Vikings!

  44. Jarflax

    So I have created another Diplomacy game.
    Glib Diplomats 2
    invite code: SMITH

    Just a reminder, while the game shows as starting in 7 days, the game actually starts when all 7 spots fill. 1 day per phase. Join if you want.

    I lowered the reliability to 50%, so if you have ever played on the site and haven’t just abandoned games you should be able to join. If you have never played you may need to play a game against bots to be able to join. The bots will beat you, because they are evil and gang up.

    1. Is Biffer playing?

      1. MikeS

        Not yet.

        1. All right I’m in but if Biffer sneaks into the seventh slot Imma be pissed.

          1. Jarflax

            I’m still trying to figure out if BMF is Pie.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Have I told you guys how much I hate Elf on the Shelf??

    Nice.

    I’m waiting for the “hacked elf on the shelf” porn video panic. I’m sure it’s coming.

    1. blackjack

      Elf on the shelf is a metaphor for the NSA. It’s pointy ears perk up when it hears the word “woodchipper.”

  46. The Late P Brooks

    From that Robert Reich link:

    This is where Warren and Sanders come in.

    Their core proposals would make the system work for everyone and alter the power structure in America: Medicare for All based on a single-payer rather than private for-profit corporate insurance; a Green New Deal to create millions of good jobs fighting climate change; free public higher education; universal childcare.

    All financed mainly by a tax on the super-rich.

    They’d also get big money out of politics and rescue democracy from the corporate and Wall Street elites who now control it.

    I used to think there should be some sort of basic economics requirement for college students, but what would be the point? It would be like making them take a physics class about the racism and inequitable distribution of gravitational attraction.

    “If you drop a piano and an anvil off the Leaning Tower of Pisa, which one will achieve justice?”

  47. straffinrun

    Comey on Fox. This is a riot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yfXxeJn3Tc

    1. blackjack

      It’s incredibly hard to get (2%) of the fisa warrants. You gotta do some adjusting of the facts to sneak them in (the meager 98% that go through.)

      1. straffinrun

        *Blank look* “I’m not sure what you’re saying.”

        Need a bath after just watching that interview.

        1. blackjack

          He said that it’s very hard to get a fisa warrant and they did a good job applying for them, other than the minor errors noted in the IG report. It’s widely reported that 98% of fisa applications are rubber stamped. They didn’t even need to lie to get them, it was just gravy on top.

          1. straffinrun

            I was imitating Comey. And yes, that is a good point. His whole shtick in that interview is simply, “Oh yeah, we really fucked up. Still wasn’t intentional and we’re good people. Wray will fix it. To be sure.”

          2. kbolino

            Something, something, COINTELPRO, something, Dr. King had it coming.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Only two things stand in their way of becoming president.

    The first is the power structure itself, which is trying to persuade Democrats that they should put up a milquetoast moderate instead.

    The second is the possibility that as the primary season heats up, supporters of Warren and Sanders will wage war on each other, taking both of them down.

    It’s true that only one of them can be the nominee. But if the backers of both Sanders and Warren come together behind one of them, they’ll have the votes to take the White House and even flip the Senate.

    President Warren Sanders can then start clearing the wreckage left by Trump, and make America decent again.

    Uh huh. Robert Reich, head of the Federal Reserve Bank, will know just how to effect this miraculous turnaround.

    1. Trigger Hippie

      ‘The first is the power structure itself, which is trying to persuade Democrats that they should put up a milquetoast moderate instead.’

      Yes, please put your head in the sand and ignore what just happened across the pond. Please.

      1. blackjack

        In fairness, this is true of the GOP. Romney was intended to allay fears of rightwinged extremism and how’d that work out?

        1. Trigger Hippie

          Hmm, I’m not disagreeing, but I can’t really remember who were considered the craziest right wingers at the time. Herman Cain? Who else?

  49. Trigger Hippie

    Derek Carr looks like he’s always wearing eyeliner.

    *sticks out tongue at Hyperion*

    1. hayeksplosives

      His eyes are dreamy.

      And although Adam Vinatieri is my favorite player, I have to confess to dreaming about Jeff Saturday having some pretty intense sex with me.

      1. Trigger Hippie
          1. Trigger Hippie

            He does have that kind looking teddy bear thing going on, I guess.

            Sadly for me, I’m boxer-skinny, and his beard puts mine to shame.

            *sigh*

    2. Don Escaped the SouthWestConference

      The Carrs are part of this clan from Wichita Falls that up and escaped Texas to California en masse. All the men look the same to me; I can’t prove that they’re different people.

    3. Hyperion

      “*sticks out tongue at Hyperion*”

      Well, the thing about Carr is, my opinion, is that he’s a good QB who is now gun shy. He’s afraid of getting hurt, so defenses don’t have to worry about him seeing an open field and masking a run for it.

      1. Trigger Hippie

        Nope! No rational discussion, good sir. He’s a crybaby who wears eyeliner. He’s Tammy Faye Bakker.

        Ah,….I’m stoned.

  50. MikeS

    Fourscore: Did you see the ND/MN Honor Flight organization is now encouraging Vietnam vets to apply?

    1. Fourscore

      Thanks, MikeS. I still can’t shake the anger. Its not PTSD, just the bitterness towards those that caused the memorials/museums to be built. I won’t be applying.

      We celebrate together, we cry alone…

      1. MikeS

        I completely understand (as much as I am able to, I guess). I just wanted to be sure you knew about it.

  51. Last week, Seattle and King County leaders hired transgender stripper Beyoncé Black St. James to perform at their annual conference on solving homelessness. Here’s how they’re using taxpayer money:

    The one and only time I went to a strip club it was a male revue. I made my bestie sit on the sidelines, but she didn’t mind because at the time, she was very shy.

    I was uncomfortable and getting angrier by the minute. I don’t actually know why. But the old women hopping up and down and screaming and waving cash in the air were gross. Finally, a couple of the dudes came over by us and one reached out. I jerked away from him and hissed, “Don’t touch me!”

    After a while, bestie got up and hesitantly went to the stage and hesitantly stuck a one in the guy’s g-string (that was cute), and then we high-tailed it out of there.

    Just get me to an outdoors jazz and blues concert, let me sprawl out on a blanket, listening to the music and looking at the stars, and I’m good.

    Otherwise, I’m not a very good date.

    1. blackjack

      I’m a dude and that’s not far from how I feel about strippers. I can, and have, hung out with them. I can be involved in the process, but I do not enjoy being a customer. I spent a year in dressing rooms of strip clubs across the country and I can tell you, strippers don’t much like their customers as people, at least mostly.

      1. Drake

        Me too. Went to a few clubs as a young Marine thinking it was going to be a blast – left feeling disgusted.

        1. My buddy refers to the aftermath, smelling of perfume and covered in glitter, as the “moral hangover”.

      2. It was worse than going to a casino. I have different feelings about casinos, but almost as bad. It’s loud, bright, jangly, disorienting. I see the rows upon rows of slot machines and old women sitting there pushing buttons and I can just feel the despair. It seeps into my pores and makes me oogy.

        Now, I will go to the “boats” to the movie theater there, but it’s nowhere near the gambling. The restaurants are also not near the gambling, so okay.

        But the casino itself? Mr. Mojeaux took me once when we were first married.

        Once.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Yeah, I’m with you. Wife and I went to see some Greyhound races at a casino in a long weekend out of town. Very impoverished area. Was pretty sad, we didn’t stay very long.

          1. straffinrun

            Y’all going after strip bars and casinos…I can’t even. What the hell happened to my America?

          2. Expressing displeasure and some amount of disapproval.

            Libertarians are allowed to be displeased and disapproving of other people’s activities, aren’t we?

          3. straffinrun

            Sure. The fact that they exist means that liberty exists even though I haven’t been to either in decades.

          4. Yeah I go to Wheeling Island once a year (for a music festival but we hit the dog track/casino on the way in.) The “casinos will be a boon to the local economy” theory doesn’t seem to have worked there, what a shithole.

          5. AlmightyJB

            That’s where we were. Did win $98 on a $2 perfecta on the second race:)

          6. Most casinos don’t draw customers from very far. They pull money out of the locals. They don’t put most of that back into the local economy and it tends to be spent far away.

          7. Rhywun

            Casino overload.

          8. Don Escaped the SouthWestConference

            They pull money out of the locals.

            You said a ton: Once the rent is gone, the stealing starts. Car break-ins skyrocket. 20 year veterans started stealing at work after the casinos opened.

            I love liberty, but I don’t know hardly anyone who is equipped to be good at it.

    2. I’m the same way, albeit at female strip clubs. I can’t get into it. Granted, I’ve been accused of being a prude in the past, but I just think it’s kinda sad and gross and lame. It’s transactional in a way that I find belittling to me, like I’m more pathetic for the experience. As if I can’t get a woman to take her clothes off without the promise of cash.

      Really, strippers should be paying me.

      But seriously, it’s fine for people who dig that sort of thing, I just find it sleazy in a vaguely 70s, “sexual freedom means having no standards of behavior”, “key party” type of way. No offense to people who are into that stuff.

      1. I’m totally okay with people doing stuff.

        There are some things I don’t want to hang around to see them do.

    3. straffinrun

      Lesbian stripper night at the local gay bar was the only time I’d been there. It was a blast. We were on herbage and were really mellow so they let us stay. The ladies were quite aggressive on both sides. Chatted up some of the ladies and they were cool with us being there. “If you were a chick, I’d fuck you.” Maybe the best compliment I’ve ever been given.

      1. Fourscore

        Couldn’t you be a chick, just for one night? See if you liked it? You could always have the morning regrets, claim you don’t remember, drunk, raped? Something, c’mon, its only for 1 night and whose to know?