Thursday Morning Links

Yeah, I’m back again today. Send your complaints to management!

Whoooooooo!

I’m still stewing over last night.  Probably not as much as Verlander though.  Complete game on 96 pitches, 11 strikeouts, no walks and gives up just two hits…and takes the L. What a load of shit. How about some run support, huh guys?

The As beat the Yankees, the Cubs won, as the Cards fell to the Brewers,The Twins were blanked but Cleveland lost too, And of course the Dodgers won. I don’t know if any of the other games really matter. College football about to start and I’m stoked.  Same for the US Open, where a certain chair umpire was told he would not be involved in any of Serena Williams’s matches by the way. Which does little more than add to her God complex. Meh, oh well. Hopefully she’ll get knocked out early and Venus can pull off a miracle and make a deep run.

Ray Bradbury

Happy Birthday to my brother in law! And happy birthday to the following people you may be more familiar with: aviation pioneer Samuel Langley, composer Claude Debussy, Krazy Kat creator George Herriman, German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl, Chinese sociopath Deng Xiaoping, bluesman John Lee Hooker, sci-fi heavyweight Ray Bradbury, baseball player Carl Yastzremski, football’s Bill Parcells, and musician Tori Amos.

Ok, lets get into…the links!

Telling people massively subsidized shit is free is a tougher sell than you’d think. Thank you, New Hampshire, for understanding what “free” really means when the government is involved.

Germany is selling government bonds with negative rates. What surprised me most is that there were already $16B in negative-yield bonds already floating around out there.  But if I buy them with Zimbabwean money, I’d still be a trillionaire. And a quadrillionaire when they mature!

I’ve actually found a cop who got fired that I feel bad for. The man’s out there doing community outreach and this is the thanks he gets? Shame on you, Georgia.  Also, how does a 22 year old have three years in the police department under his belt?

Good for you. Now leave those of us alone who feel differently. But seriously, read the piece. Its hilarious in its stupidity.

Vomiting Vultures Vacation In Vlorida

Wait a second. Can someone explain to me how someone can be loitering around their own broken-down car?  But seriously, this guy does worse with flat tires than Beto O’Rourke. But oddly enough better than Rico Suave.

Dammit God, couldn’t you have waited until the Canadian Geese were migrating?

Florida vacation home invaded by vomiting vultures. I have nothing else to add.

That’s it.  Now enjoy this.

Have a great day, friends!

Comments

684 responses to “Thursday Morning Links”

  1. PieInTheSky

    Germany is selling government bonds with negative rates. What surprised me most is that there were already $16B in negative-yield bonds already floating around out there. But if I buy them with Zimbabwean money, I’d still be a trillionaire. And a quadrillionaire when they mature! – shame that a great country like the US does not also have negative rates

    1. Atanarjuat

      So you have to pay to lend them money?

      1. Nephilium

        But they’ll keep your money safe! If you left it sitting around in investment accounts or in banks, it may just wind up confiscated.

        1. AlexinCT

          I wonder if all the people in Iceland that had their retirement savings confiscated by their government wished they held some of these bonds….

      2. invisible finger

        And they’ll break your legs if you don’t lend them money.

  2. PieInTheSky

    I’m still stewing over last night. Probably not as much as Verlander though. Complete game on 96 pitches, 11 strikeouts, no walks and gives up just two hits…and takes the L. What a load of shit.

    Could be worse… like this guy

    Someone just bet $55K on the Astros at -550 to beat the Tigers tonight ?

    Bet would pay out $10K

    https://twitter.com/br_betting/status/1164313808585682945

    1. The Last American Hero

      Poor guy. I’m sure Kate Upton will comfort him.

  3. Old Man With Candy

    Krazy Kat creator George Herriman

    Ought to be a national holiday.

    1. Count Potato

      You had a holiday yesterday.

  4. >>Montana hailstorm slaughters 11,000 birds

    I, for one, blame global warming. And by extension Trump.

    1. Festus

      That’s the thing. These sort of events have always happened but nobody gave a shit or bothered to count the carnage. Media has decided on a particular narrative so it’s gonna be doom and gloom from here on out.

      1. AlexinCT

        And then they will tell you it is not any kind of partisan propaganda, but just using sensationalism to get eyes on their product. Yeah, sure.

    1. Old Man With Candy

      I feel much better about basically ignoring that show for the past 15 years.

      1. Festus

        They were pretty solid for about six years and then the animation and direction of the show changed. Haven’t watched for years and even then it was just out of habit.

      2. AlexinCT

        ^^THIS^^

        Although for me it is closer to 20 years.

      3. Fatty Bolger

        I tried to get back into it at some point, and every other episode was just awful, some so bad I was shocked that they made it to air. The others were just “meh.”

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      Saw that. Pretty terrible.

      I know The Simpsons stopped being funny circa 1999 but this was plain sad.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The first ten years were great and the movie was passably good. It’s just a lazy parody of what it used to be now and it needs to die, not because they insulted Trump but because it sucks balls.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          To insult Trump is one thing….but to do it and side with those four assholes? Pathetic.

          But this is a show that cowardly killed off Apu because of one jerk off.

          Time to put an end to The Simpsons.

          The ratings still seem to be strong enough for Fox to keep it on. Which is surprising. Who is watching this crap?

          1. Fatty Bolger

            When’s the episode about Groening having his krusty toes massaged by one of Epstein’s Lolitas coming out?

          2. Festus

            January 2021.

    3. Count Potato

      “27 writers, 15 voice actors, a full orchestra, and 783 Korean animators team up to produce a Ben Garrison cartoon for lefties”

      https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/1164510927045222400

    4. Slammer

      It almost makes me wish Trump would lose so I wouldn’t have to see this kind of shit ever again

      1. AlmightyJB

        As much as I dislike Trump, I really hate to see the screeching, tantrum throwing assholes win. I want to see them fully melt down into mush.

        1. WTF

          ^This. As distasteful as Trump can be, the lefty loons are dangerous and shouldn’t be rewarded for their insanity.

          1. Slammer

            100%

          2. For me, the single biggest tragedy of the Trump “era” is that, having now taken the red pill, I can’t unsee what his opponents really are. Twenty years ago I could’ve seen a president doing what Trump does in terms of policy and think, “This guy kinda sucks,” in the same way that you might get a cheeseburger and be disappointed with it. I could’ve looked at the actual Donald Trump and continued to think he was a sleazy buffoon who, astonishingly, remains rich. Now it’s like I’m at the bar stepping in front of the fat, belligerent, drunken slob and defending him against a frat boy who’s been picking fights with everyone.

          3. Festus

            Nice.

          4. AlmightyJB

            That’s pretty much on point.

          5. Well said. I didn’t vote for the guy but find myself defending him because the cray-cray on the other side forces me to.

          6. AlmightyJB

            I didn’t vote for home either and said there was snowballs chance in hell I would ever vote for him. The left is really upping that snowballs odds though.

          7. creech

            I’m in that same boat. Hey, when I stood up to applaud, the boat rocked and all my firearms just fell over the side. Thank goodness, I can replace them easier than if I had to buy a used car today.

          8. MikeS

            I’m with you guys.

            It’s been linked before, but apropos.

          9. Holy shit, it’s like they followed my wife and I around for a week.

          10. R C Dean

            Yeah, didn’t vote for Trump, but unless he does something colossally stupid (gun control looks like his best chance) I’ll vote for him next year.

            I look at it as voting in self-defense. The Dems have gone so totally, aggressively, batshit, camps-and-mass-graves crazy that I think they are worth voting against, period.

            A third-party vote might have the same effect, but what third party is less embarrassing than Trump?

          11. I agree with RC Dean, I’m tempted to vote for Trump this time around, despite not voting in 2016. We have a buffoon who is akin to a 90s Democrat versus people who openly hate me and dehumanize me.

            My two choices are to vote my dissatisfaction for the socially acceptable bigotry of the left or stay home and keep my powder dry.

        2. Sean

          As much as I dislike Trump, I really hate to see the screeching, tantrum throwing assholes win. I want to see them fully melt down into mush.

          I want to bathe in proggie tears in 2020. I hope I’m not disappointed.

  5. PieInTheSky

    Dammit God, couldn’t you have waited until the Canadian Geese were migrating? – can the birds be used for food or something? seems a waste

    1. MikeS

      The coyotes, wolves, crows, mice, beetles, etc. will likely find something to do with the bodies.

      1. Jarflax

        God may or may not see the sparrow’s fall, but the beetles always see.

  6. >>Florida vacation home invaded by vomiting vultures. I have nothing else to add.

    are shotguns not a thing in Florida? I thought every 2 year old got a 12 gauge for free as part of a community outreach program.

    1. Right? At least that’s what Willy Wonka told me.

      Obligatory

    2. Atanarjuat

      They’re New Yorkers who own a $700k vacation home and are too timid to deal with non-life threatening animals. I don’t think gun ownership is on the table.

      Aren’t vultures protected legally somehow?

      1. Slammer

        Probably. Definitely the ones in Congress are

        1. AlexinCT

          That’s cause they rigged the system that way. What do you think the call for “more sensible gun control” really is about, anyway?

        2. creech

          “Probably. Definitely the ones in Congress are”
          Quips like this is one reason I visit here.

    3. Not Adahn

      Florida is not Houston

      Interestingly, trying to google that story came up with more results for Bloomberg’s anti-2A “charity” than the story I was looking for.

  7. PieInTheSky

    Good for you. Now leave those of us alone who feel differently. But seriously, read the piece. Its hilarious in its stupidity.

    Speaking of different …

    Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

  8. Nephilium

    Candian Geese still migrate? I thought they declared as refugees and just moved in.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Rufus: I’m a Canidiien Geese!
      Border agent: Excuse me?
      Rufus: Canidien geese!
      Border to colleague: What’s he saying?
      2nd border agent: Sir, could you repeat that for me?
      Rufus (frustrated): I’m viisitin. I’m a geese!
      3rd border agent: OH! You’re a Canadian guest!

      /Rufus jerks steering wheel with both hands proudly.

      Rufus: Canidien geese!

      1. /Rufus jerks steering wheel with both hands proudly.

        “FURTIVE MOVEMENT!”

        “STOP RESISTING!”

        1. Slammer

          Rufus jerks steering wheel with both hands proudly.

          EUPHEMISM

          1. Enough About Palin

            Does this make Rufus one of the Proud Boys?

  9. Rebel Scum

    Douglas County deputy arrested, fired after allegedly buying alcohol for minors

    Wouldn’t have happened if he had just panic-fired and shot someone.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, I was gonna say he’d have been fine if he had just shot them instead.

    2. Festus

      I’m willing to bet that his “victims” were 19-20 years-old. That drinking age bullshit is a travesty.

      1. Nephilium

        One of the things that Canada (and most of the world) beats the US on. Of course, with the passport requirements to visit Canada now, the 19-20 year olds have stopped the traditional vacation trips up to Canada. It’s easier for them to just get a fake ID here in the states.

        1. Festus

          That’s just it. The people that i hung out with were pretty hard-core partiers. We had little trouble getting anything we wanted when we were technically under aged. Heck, I saw my first strip show when I was 15 and had skipped out of school for the day. 75 cent draft. I never got carded until I turned 18.

          1. Nephilium

            I’ve got a baby face, it’s just recently (since my late 30’s) that I’ve stopped expecting to get carded anywhere I go that I’m not a regular.

  10. PieInTheSky

    Here is something for those glibs of high culture and good taste

    Wine Education Week! 7 Days. Over 500 Wine Events all over the WORLD!

    1. September 09th, 07.00 pm in Columbus(Dublin), OH, USA

    “Romania : Winemaking Tradition. Ancient Grape Varieties.” Comprehensive educational tasting of few of the ancient grape varieties from Romania(one of the oldest wine-making region in the world, its viticulture dating back more than 6,000 years)

    $37

    https://wineind.com/

    1. That sounds splendid. I brought back 5 bottles of wine from Virginia this past week. I’ll open one in honor of that event.

    2. Nephilium

      For those who prefer the better things in life, Cleveland Beer Week is still a thing. October 19th – 26th.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Fortunately no one takes such claims seriously

      2. Annoyed Nomad

        I like how a beer week is 8 days. Kind of like how a baker’s dozen is 13.

    3. Old Man With Candy

      I generally hate these sorts of things, but this one I would gladly go to.

      1. PieInTheSky

        They should have good wines, two different Negru de Dragasani two different Feteasca Neagra, and a few more, from good producers

    4. Here is something for those glibs of high culture and good taste

      Wait, we have some of those?

      1. Well, we have some that are very yeasty, and some who can cook. I guess if it’s not a logical and, we might.

      2. Jarflax

        They are cheesy

        1. Now, now, we may be talking about bread too.

          1. Jarflax

            Now you are just wining

          2. I was pretty sure I was dining.

  11. AlmightyJB

    Chicago reporter doesn’t need protection because cops keep everyone safe. She’s totally unqualified to be responsible for her own survival.

    1. Bob Boberson

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Nance

      I listened to a book about this sicko on a recent road trip. Example 54664355 of how a gun saved people whereas otherwise the cops would have been standing over two corpses scratching their heads.

      1. AlmightyJB

        When seconds count, cops are minutes away.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          What bothers me though is even if you defend yourself and kill an intruder or attacker the cops will stick the cuffs on you when they do arrive minutes later.

          This is a wrinkle in the system that has to be revisited.

          Someone enters you home unlawfully, they’re fair game. Full stop.

          None of this ‘proportional response’ crap.

          1. Semi-Spartan Dad

            Depends where you live. Here, the cops would slap you on the back and buy you a beer.

          2. AlmightyJB

            There was a case a few years ago where a guy was caught molesting a little girl that lived next door. While home on bail he was shot in the head. Investigation was over before started. Unsolved crime. Complete mystery.

          3. whatya gonna do? ::shrugs::

          4. cyto

            I’ve told it before, but I enjoy it so….

            Back in the 90’s a 15 year old girl was violently raped in south Atlanta. Suspect at large for 2 weeks.

            They found him in the middle of the busiest street in that section of town, at noon, naked, beaten all to hell, with a pair of vice grips attached to his junk. He’d apparently been dragged to his location by said pair of vice grips.

            The police lieutenant who was briefing the press actually smiled a little as he reported that nobody saw anything.

          5. Maryland, which is absolute shit for most things, does follow the Castle doctrine. I’m not familiar with how that actually plays out, but at least according to the law if you use deadly force to defend yourself or anyone else inside your home or to prevent a burglary or robbery then the burden is on the prosecution to prove that you didn’t act in self-defense. There’s a duty to retreat outside your home, but once in your home, pretty much all bets are off.

          6. Don Escaped Texas

            in some states, people keep re-electing legislators who write duty-to-retreat laws

            * shrugs, checks pistol, re-holsters *

      2. AlmightyJB

        “Because of the condition of the body, her remains were not identified until February 1985. Prior to her identity being confirmed, she was dubbed “Betty Beavertail.”

        Rude

        1. Bob Boberson

          It is Montana, afterall

      3. Tundra

        What a beautiful ending!

        Thanks, Bob!

  12. Far from me to point out the cloud in every silver lining, but

    Only 32% of New Hampshire voters favored tuition-free colleges, while 7% said higher education should cost students whatever the market allows.

    1. We’re lucky it was 7%. It sounds like they found a few FSP people to poll…by accident.

      1. Not Adahn

        Now I want to create a polling database of New Englanders that only includes residents of Keene.

    2. Gadfly

      To put that silver lining back on, I will point out that the full paragraph for that line is this:

      A recent YouGov/CBS poll showed that 61% of Democratic voters in New Hampshire want tuition lowered through added government subsidies, but not free. Only 32% of New Hampshire voters favored tuition-free colleges, while 7% said higher education should cost students whatever the market allows.

      Which I take to mean the journalist is not a good writer, and that it was 7% of Democrats in New Hampshire want market pricing in higher ed, which is actually higher than I would have guessed.

  13. Not Adahn

    Instead of killing a child, he should have stayed inside his home and called 911 when he was awakened at 1:15 a.m. by a group of teens he said were attempting to steal his car from the driveway. Instead, he put himself at risk.

    The teens easily could have overpowered the elderly man, taken his gun and killed him. Or what if they, too, had been armed with guns?

    Certainly, he must have known the danger of going out there with a small-caliber gun to protect a car. His own life surely is worth more than that.

    Surely your life is more important than not being raped. If you fight back, they might overpower you. And what if the rapists were armed with guns?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I know someone who put a rifle round at the feet of car radio thief in the middle of the night in La Jolla, CA. The thief hid in the vehicle until the cops arrived.

      While the shooter did not get arrested, probably because they couldn’t prove it was him, the cops were less than amused.

      1. Sean

        Do people still steal car radios? Is that still a thing?

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          I had my fucking stock radio stolen out of my car about eight years ago. Cost me more to replace the fucking window than the stereo.

          1. Oh?

            /full glass coverage

          2. I had my dry cleaning stolen out of my car once. Have fun with all the 4 year old WalMart button downs, asshole!

            Thankfully they took advantage of a lock that was stuck open, so it cost maybe $150 to replace the clothes (at WalMart, of course)

          3. Sean

            I had my car stolen.

            Fucking thieves. I hate them.

            Took me a little bit to realize what happened and why my car wasn’t where I expected it to be. I finally saw some broken glass on the ground.

            They actually caught the guy and recovered my car (eventually). It was scavenged for parts and impounded by Philadelphia. Philadelphia’s policy was that I had to re-register the car and put insurance on it in order to flatbed it out and get it fixed. I wasn’t down for that. Fuck Philadelphia too.

            IMO, I was victimized twice. I only had liability on the car at the time. *sad trombone*

    2. Instead of killing a child

      Fuck you, asshole. Anybody old enough to carjack is old enough to eat lead and not be coddled as a child.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        They’re only stealing cars because of white supremacy.

        1. Festus

          My nephew got blown away with a shotgun by an irate homeowner. He and his pals had hit the guys place a few times before and the old farmer had just about enough. Shot him in the back while he was running away and the shooter skated. Here. In Canada. Less than twenty years ago. Nowadays farmer Brown would be facing serious time in the Pen and the lawsuits would strip him of everything that he owned.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            If the farmer shot him in the back while he was retreating, then yes, he would be in jail and rightfully so.

          2. Festus

            You would think so but it was a small town, Farmer had deep roots and they had been basically terrorizing him for months. Too bad. Shitty end to a fucked-up life. Kid was kind of a lost cause at that point, sorry to say.

          3. It’s still a crime in progress when the criminal is trying to run away, in my opinion.

          4. Festus

            I wish that he’d sicced the dog on him rather than firing blindly into the night. That’s the burden I bear, always trying to see both sides of the situation. Poor kid would have probably been dead from an OD or a knifing before he hit 30. I’ll bet the shooter sits up at night, unable to sleep.

          5. Semi-Spartan Dad

            Agreed. Multiple intruders and the victim doesn’t know if they are going to split to flank, running to reach cover to shoot, or are just running to gain time to pull their own gun out. The onus isn’t on a victim to protect their aggressor.

          6. IIRC, heroes in blue get an exception to the “running away” rule.

          7. Rufus the Monocled

            Ouch. Rough. Sorry.

            We make our beds.

      2. Gadfly

        This. Teenagers are not children. They are minors, therefor not adults, but calling them children is infantilization. And when they engage in adult behavior, they should be prepared for adult consequences.

    3. Slammer

      Or what if they, too, had been armed with guns?

      Then his shit gets stolen? And if they’re ever busted they most likely don’t ever get convicted in Chicago?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It’s Chicago, the cops aren’t going to investigate, let alone catch anyone. Just like any other big city, you’re screwed.

        1. Leads, yeah, sure. I’ll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they’ve got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!

    4. leon

      Every argument they give is based on the idea of rolling over and letting yourself be fucked by thieves and murderers. And they can always think of a situation where your overpowered therefore you shouldn’t be able to try.

      1. Bob Boberson

        Self defense might end in the death of yourself!!! Why try at all?

        1. AlexinCT

          Sounds like the way a liberal would think others should react.

      2. invisible finger

        “the idea of rolling over and letting yourself be fucked by thieves and murderers.”

        Well, they ARE statists after all.

        1. OneOut

          https://www.foxnews.com/politics/san-francisco-board-adopts-new-language-for-criminals-turning-convicted-felon-into-justice-involved-person

          Speaking of statists.

          Here’s some crime fighting for you. Just rename the criminals and crime rates drastically go down.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            “justice involved person”

            I’m just like Superman now!

      3. AlexinCT

        Every argument they give is based on the idea of rolling over and letting yourself be fucked by thieves and murderers.

        Note that the people advocating for others to roll over, never, ever, expect to have to do the same, or if they do, they do so because the damage to them is minimal and can easily waved off. It’s just your car! yeah, what if I suddenly lose my livelihood because I lost my car? Fuck these asshats that virtue signal while knowing they will not have to deal with the ass fucking they demand others take.

      4. Tejicano

        “What if they tried to overpower him?”

        Then the closest one gets a round through the brain housing.

        I would bet that is exactly what happened – they thought he was outnumbered and tried their luck. One of them paid for it and the rest had second thoughts.

        1. Fatty Bolger

          Exactly right:

          The 75-year-old homeowner told deputies he went outside after noticing a suspicious SUV in his driveway and several people on his property, whom he believed were attempting to break into and steal his car, a 2011 Audi, Covelli said.

          Armed with a revolver, the homeowner told authorities he was standing on his porch, yelling at them to leave, when two of the individuals “quickly approached him,” Covelli said. The man said he saw that one of the teens “holding something in his hand,” so he discharged his firearm at least three times out of fear for his and his wife’s safety.

          The homeowner then called 911 to request an ambulance, and the teens fled, Covelli said.

          About three miles from the man’s home, officers from the Gurnee Police Department responded to a crash involving an SUV, Covelli said. When the officers approached the 2015 Lexus, two people exited the vehicle — one of whom had a gunshot wound to his head.

          The four people who were still in the SUV fled the scene “at high rate of speed,” reaching 120 mph on Interstate 94 as they were chased all the way back to Chicago by law enforcement officers from the Lake County Sheriff’s Office, the Gurnee Police Department and Illinois State Police.

          Once the vehicle was depleted of gas, the four people inside fled on foot, Covelli said. Three of them were found “pretty quickly,” and a Lake County deputy located the fourth suspect in a dumpster about a block away, buried under trash. The fifth suspect was taken into custody at the crash scene in Gurnee.

          The five teens, ages 16 to 18, are being charged as adults for first-degree murder “due to them being in commission of a forcible felony,” according to a press release from the sheriff’s office. They appeared in court for an initial hearing Tuesday afternoon, where bond was set at $1 million each. They will appear in court next on Sept. 5.

          The only suspect who was identified is the sole 18-year-old, Diamond Davis, who is being detained at the Lake County jail. The three 17-year-olds and the 16-year-old are being held at the Hulse Juvenile Detention Facility in Vernon Township.

          A knife, “likely from one of the individuals,” was found on the man’s property, Covelli said. The Lexus SUV had been reported stolen in Antioch, some 10 miles southeast of Old Mill Creek, two days before the incident, Covelli said.

          1. The four people who were still in the SUV fled the scene “at high rate of speed,” reaching 120 mph on Interstate 94 as they were chased all the way back to Chicago by law enforcement officers from the Lake County Sheriff’s Office, the Gurnee Police Department and Illinois State Police.

            Driver: There’s 106 miles to Chicago, we’ve got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it’s dark, and one of us is bleeding to death.
            Passenger: Hit it!

          2. AlexinCT

            Think they argued about what music should be playing on their radio while they were doing this jaunt through town?

      5. Gadfly

        And they can always think of a situation where your overpowered therefore you shouldn’t be able to try.

        They’d rather die on their knees than die on their feet.

        1. In which case, they’d die like they lived.

          1. AlexinCT

            Sucking dick?

    5. Agreed. I’d have gone 12-gauge with 00 buck. Better for a crowd, and if you run dry you can use it as a club.

      Oh, and children don’t steal cars, nor do they pose a threat to the life and limb of adult men. If you’re old enough to be a danger to confront, you’re old enough to get shot by the owner of the car you’re trying to steal.

      1. Tejicano

        In a similar situation the 12 gauge was my choice – over a lot of more tactical hardware – because one shot is pretty well known to be all you would need.

        1. Last night, I notice two people with a small pen-light at the driver’s side door of my truck in front of my house. For background, it’s even money whether it’s a young couple looking for a dropped phone while walking a black Lab or a crackhead trying to steal my shit. So we’re talking about maybe 30′ from my front door. Luckily, I had an enormous, barking dog ready to hand, and thanks to the darkness they couldn’t tell that he’s basically an old, morbidly obese coward, nor could they see that I didn’t have time to run back to my gun cabinet. False alarm, thankfully; a young couple who apparently don’t get that the optics of fiddling around with a flashlight next to someone’s vehicle aren’t optimal.

          1. AlexinCT

            Yeah, making sure you have a clear understanding that a crime is being committed before you follow police tactics and yell “Freeze” after you empty your clip is a great idea.

  14. Count Potato

    If we bought Greenland we’d have Canada surrounded.

    1. Festus

      Mmmmm….. Cozy!

    2. I cracked the same joke a while back.

  15. AlmightyJB

    Good tune. I give that song a lot of juke box love.

  16. Rebel Scum

    Certainly, he must have known the danger of going out there with a small-caliber gun to protect a car. His own life surely is worth more than that.

    Fuck with my car and I suppose we’ll find out.

  17. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Serena is back out of her panic room?

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      What a dumb move to not have the ump work her matches.

      Talk about giving into a nasty diva.

      1. If an Athlete is trying to dictate who can referee their matches, ban the athlete.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I saw part of that match with Osaka where she got into it with the umpire. She must have been on a double dose of ‘roids that day.

        Meanwhile, the commentators continue to make excuses for her behavior.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Because she has those monster hooters. The Q Mafia forgives all for ladies who bounce like that.

      3. They did the same thing for that shit Nadal after he notched about Carlos Bernardes calling him for time wasting.

      4. leon

        As the Ump I would have requested not to do her matches. It requires impartiality and I don’t think I could be impartial after what she tried to do to him.

        1. Festus

          I used to Ump baseball and there were a couple of teams that I black-listed.

        2. Rhywun

          #metoo

          I noticed the article doesn’t actually say whether he requested it or not.

          Although the fact that Venus is included – I guess they look alike?! – tells me this probably came from upstairs.

  18. >>Claude Debussy

    on his death:

    Debussy died of rectal cancer at his Paris home on 25 March 1918, at the age of 55. He had been diagnosed with the cancer in 1909 after experiencing haemorrhaging, and in December 1915 underwent one of the earliest colostomy operations ever performed. The operation achieved only a temporary respite, and occasioned him considerable frustration (he was to liken dressing in the morning to “all the labours of Hercules in one”). His death occurred in the midst of the aerial and artillery bombardment of Paris during the German Spring Offensive of World War I. The funeral procession made its way through deserted streets to Père Lachaise Cemetery as the German guns bombarded the city. The military situation in France was critical, and did not permit the honour of a public funeral with ceremonious graveside orations. Debussy’s body was reinterred the following year in the small Passy Cemetery sequestered behind the Trocadéro, fulfilling his wish to rest ‘among the trees and the birds’; his wife and daughter are buried with him

    1. What an asshole.

      1. Not Adahn

        No, he had it surgically removed.

      2. Atanarjuat

        *opera applause*

  19. PieInTheSky

    The Family Dynasty That Pursues Perfection in Shaved Ice
    For three generations, the Hansens have made summer sno-ball season in New Orleans

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/best-snoball-new-orleans

    I really don’t get the whole shaved ice with syrup thing. Why not gelato ?

    1. Not Adahn

      Easier, cheaper, faster.

    2. Shaved ice is the nick Gillespie of summer frozen treats.

      1. Festus

        “Freezy-Pops” are then the Froot Sushi of summer treats. Too sweet and leave a plasticky aftertaste.

      2. Nephilium

        During several of the street festivals in Lakewood (Ohio, suburb of Cleveland) a wine shop does “adult” snow-cones. Shaved ice with several shots of liquor poured over top (Limoncello is a standard option they offer). Technically an open container violation if you walk down the street with them, but I’ve never seen anyone busted for that.

    3. Gadfly

      I really don’t get the whole shaved ice with syrup thing. Why not gelato ?

      Shaved ice is colder, less creamy, and more intensely flavored, so people who prefer those properties will prefer it to ice cream.

    4. Suthenboy

      Come to N.O. in the summer. You’ll get it. Shaved ice is water. Gelato/ice cream doesn’t quench a thirst.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Shaved ice is just shit tier water ice. Fight me.

      2. cyto

        What I don’t get is the guy with the food truck who sells them for $6 a pop.

        That’s nuts.

        Ok, I actually get that guy.

        I don’t get the dipshit who pays the six bucks. (my wife being among those who thinks that is reasonable)

  20. Rufus the Monocled

    Free student tuition. IT’S AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE!

    That was the spiel when the student protests took place here. It was the main argument. Why come you no care for students, we’re the future, hence it’s an investment in the future.

    smh

    1. If it’s such a good investment, we can take away all the subsidies, as the customers will gladly take on all the costs themselves.

      1. Right? You don’t have to force people to make good investments at gunpoint.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The real question is why do we have so many media outlets that just repeat the same shit?

      1. AlexinCT

        This was you being facetious right?

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Nobody needs 23 varieties of the same spiel

          1. leon

            No one needs 23 kinds of chromosomes.

          2. What a retarded thing to say.

          3. Festus

            ^ This was noted.

          4. Not Adahn

            Stop punning before Swiss comes Downs here.

          5. We refuse to be handicapped by threats!

          6. Jarflax

            I don’t think this thread is developing normally.

    2. Atanarjuat

      When people like Michael Malice say “the media is the enemy of the people” it seems less like hyperbole all the time.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      The word of the day kids is: RECESSION!

      Now go make America proud and make sure you remind viewers they’re our slaves and they will do and think as we say!

      Pretty nasty and evil if you ask me that they pray for one all because Orange Man Bad.

      Think of it. They’re willing to have people suffer just so they can attack Trump. Not through the force of ideas and criticism of actual policy. Nope. By forces out of their control and then claim a victory lap.

      Enemies of the people is not hyperbolic.

      1. Festus

        If I were about to lose everything I might stop running from the Black Dog. I wonder how many of these shit-stains actually ponder the human cost that another recession would entail? Nah, no I don’t.

        1. AlexinCT

          They expect to not be, or at worse, minimally be affected. That some members of the unwashed masses will have their lives destroyed is for them just the cost to retain power. After all, it also sets the right example for the rabble that they better keep the right people in charge, or else…

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Watched the video. So Maher’s logic is:

        Short term pain (recession), to preserve long-term damage to the Constitution.

        Ok.

        How regal of him. Other people (poorer than him) have to pay a real price for a theory to soothe his TDS.

        I suppose the next part then for him to account for, since he doesn’t mind icky people will lose their jobs, is to SPECIFICALLY high light how Trump is destroying the Constitution so much he’s willing to make people economically suffer over.

        1. Festus

          He’s got his. That last recession fucking near finished me. I was in the building supply trade, specifically dealing in aluminum form work for high-rise concrete structures. I still haven’t recovered.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            He’s a clown.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            Honk , honk!

        2. leon

          Here’s the problem. The Dems have been arguing and crying “Constitutional Crisis” sense the beginning of the presidency. (Apparently the wrong guy winning is destroying the Constitution, despite it totally being a living breathing document, that impinges too much). This seems to have been so that they can provide conver for their extrajudicial actions. But the Constitution has means to remove any president. If Trump is as bad as they say they should impeach. This paints Maher in no good light as he should be harrying the Democrats to impeach. Of course he won’t because that would be bad for them politically, and in the end what he’s saying is that a loss of wealth for everyone else is worth getting in power.

          1. Festus

            Well sure! People like Maher are playing with “house money”. Win or lose it’s all the same to him. As noted above, he’s got his.

          2. B.P.

            Last night I watched a Bill Maher clip from a year or so ago where he was going on and on and on about Russian collaboration and Trump being a Putin puppet.

            It didn’t age very well.

          3. cyto

            Uh…. Abolish the Electoral College?
            Get rid of the 2nd Amendment?
            The first amendment has limits?
            Hate speech is not free speech?
            Amend the constitution to allow the regulation of political speech? (gutting the first amendment)
            Pack the Supreme Court?

            Those were all Trump ideas?

  21. Rebel Scum

    “It’s fool’s gold to chase younger voters if at the same time you’re turning off a greater number of older, more moderate voters.”

    This is why, in order to usher in socialist utopia save our democracy*, we need to lower the voting age to 16.

    *It grinds my gears when people say the phrase “our democracy”. What fucking “democracy”?

    1. prolefeed

      The “our” part is bad, too. It’s like being a slave with Stockholm Syndrome”, saying “our” in that context.

      1. Festus

        “Our” bullwhip.

        1. Jarflax

          Master may hold the whip but us slaves get all the use! It’s ours!

  22. Slammer

    I don’t know weather God even thinks of the poor birds before he precipitates these kinds of acts

    1. Atanarjuat

      Not foul weather, anti-fowl weather.

  23. Rebel Scum

    Montana hailstorm slaughters 11,000 birds

    Nature hates birds as much as windmills and solar fields I guess.

  24. Private Chipperbot

    To understand how unlikely Verlander’s loss was last night, consider this. The Tigers have been an American league team for almost 120 years and have never won a game with the only two hits being home runs. Until last night.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Verlander pitches best inning in history:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpIs__45t5I

    2. The Last American Hero

      Apparently you never watched the Mariners back when Felix Hernandez could still pitch.

    1. I’m sorry, I don’t speak foreign.

      1. PieInTheSky

        apparently it says before going in the eye of terror don your latex armor

        1. AlexinCT

          NOYCE!

    2. PieInTheSky

      By this I mean a small warhammer model not the other thing

      1. Not Adahn

        Slavs have really narrow penes?

    3. Sensei

      An homage to “Full Metal Alchemist” aka “Hagane no Renkinjutsushi” or 鋼の錬金術師

      https://www.amazon.com/Fullmetal-Alchemist-Brotherhood-Alphonse-Action/dp/B002GWV76Q

  25. Scruffy Nerfherder

    For the math nerds among us, this is pretty cool:

    https://phys.org/news/2019-08-mathematical-framework-sheet-material-kirigami.html

    Researchers from the Harvard John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences (SEAS) have developed a mathematical framework that can turn any sheet of material into any prescribed shape, inspired by the paper craft termed kirigami (from the Japanese, kiri, meaning to cut and kami, meaning paper).

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      PhD thesis: straighten out a wrecked 1981 Chevy Citation

      1. Timeloose

        Even if it was possible, the Citation came off the assembly line with so many issues how could you tell it was not wrecked anymore?

    2. robc

      It has a good comment about using this tech for 3D printing.

  26. Count Potato

    “Exclusive — ‘Crappy Jew Year’: New York Times Editor’s Antisemitism, Racism Exposed

    A New York Times political editor has a years-long history of antisemitic and racist comments on his Twitter page, a Breitbart News investigation has found.

    Tom Wright-Piersanti, who has been a Senior Staff Editor at the New York Times for more than five years according to his LinkedIn page and according to his Twitter page oversees the newspaper’s political coverage, has made a series of antisemitic and racist tweets over the years. Many of them are still public on his Twitter page as of the publication of this article, but some have since been deleted.

    The revelation of these tweets come in the wake of the executive editor of the Times stating that the newspaper intends to target the president on racial issues over the next couple years, after the newspaper’s efforts on the Russia hoax scandal failed.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/08/22/exclusive-crappy-jew-year-new-york-times-editors-antisemitism-racism-exposed/

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I hate to stand up for a NYT guy but there are plenty of comments we’ve made on this publicly viewable website that could be misconstrued to get us run off from our jobs which is what BB is doing here. “Crappy Jew Year” is pretty tame in the scheme of things.

      1. Not Adahn

        I have no problem with petard-hoisting.

        1. cyto

          That’s the point. These guys are actually making their living running around making false claims of racism, sexism or simply “hate” to further a political agenda. To have much worse on your own resume is an open invitation to get shown the door.

          On would think this would give people a moment for self reflection, but so far it has not.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      NYT. Racism. 1619. Exercise in projection.

      1. leon

        From the discussion yesterday it seems like 1619 is an
        Exercise in taking about how beneficial it was.

        1. Festus

          Just a recalibration, more or less. They need to adjust for windage.

  27. Rebel Scum

    Cultural enrichment.

    Statistics released by the police show that Sweden saw a total of 83 explosive incidents during the period from January to July, a number that has increased to 120 this year, Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter reports.

    Last year saw a total of 157 explosions across the country according to Dagens Nyheter, but actual numbers are somewhat unclear, with other groups such as the Crime Prevention Council BRÅ reporting 108 claims of general destruction by an explosion in 2018.

    The National Forensic Center (NFC), which also investigates explosive incidents, sets the number of cases in 2018 at 255 and 196 so far this year. NFC statistics show a steady increase in cases year-on-year with only 93 cases occurring in 2013…

    Criminologist Sven Granath commented on the explosions saying, “Yes, unfortunately, it has increased. Why we do not know, this may be due to the increase in gun violence at the national level. In individual locations, there may be one or more conflicts between criminal networks, but it is very difficult to know.”

    Granath also noted that investigators never know for certain were the materials used in the explosions come from saying, “You can only really speculate. It may be stolen from a building site and sold on, or maybe smuggled in.”

    Police say that the nature of explosives has also changed in recent years. In prior years, hand grenades, often from the Balkan region, were more common but now explosives like dynamite were becoming more common and increasingly stolen from construction sites.

    How can that happen? Don’t they have commonsense people gun-control?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The Swedes seem to be willing to put up with unlimited fallout vis a vis their immigration policies. Explosions, rape, theft, and a general disruption of an orderly society are being ignored and the people who are speaking to those issues are being attacked as racists. It’s a sad state of affairs.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It will last until it doesn’t. And then it will be a bloodbath.

        They’re playing with fire.

        1. Rebel Scum

          Yup.

        2. Rebel Scum

          Yup.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      What’s interesting is how homophobia, Islamophobia, alt-right extremism, racism etc. are all on the rise despite the evidence showing otherwise – at least to me.

      BUT, crime where high concentration of refugees in places like Sweden is ignored.

      They try to tell us ‘nothing to see here’ and if you do think crime is on the rise they just tag you as a racist.

    3. Suthenboy

      “Why this is happening we do not know.”

      Ya’ know what Cupcake? I believe you.

  28. PieInTheSky

    German eight-year-old takes 140km/h joyride on motorway

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49419379

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Go speed racer, go speed racer, go speed racer goooooo

    2. robc

      What is that in real units?

      I am fine with mph or m/s.

      Listen, if you are going to be metric, stick with your damn base units.

      I am a mks guy, so am okay with kilograms.

      Although that says something about the failure of the design that the two main systems are cgs and mks. If it was designed correctly, you would be able to use mgs.

      Stupid french. Even dumber, people who follow a french system.

      1. Not Adahn

        Decimal fetishists are lame.

        1. robc

          My response to how great decimal is:

          So, what is the second to hour ratio?

          1. Nephilium

            1:3,600. 1,800 seconds is half an hour, 900 seconds is 15 minutes.

            Do support and report reading for a call center long enough, and those numbers get burned into your brain. But I don’t expect them to be common knowledge.

          2. robc

            I know them, the point is they aren’t decimal.

            A Deepness in the Sky used kiloseconds and megaseconds as common units.

            A Msec is about 2 weeks, IIRC.

          3. Not Adahn

            Still not divisible by three.

      2. PieInTheSky

        about 39 m/s

      3. WTF

        I think that’s about 85mph, which is my morning commute.

    3. Maybe he wanted to do hood rat stuff with his friends?

      https://youtu.be/LXZfuC0vi4g

    4. Tundra

      “I just wanted to drive a little”

      I get it. Good for you, kiddo!

    5. How many furlongs per punkt is that?

  29. Pope Jimbo

    I don’t feel bad at all at the news that pelicans and cormorants were victims of that hail storm. Now all those little sunnies and crappies that those cormorants each each day can grow up and be caught by some lucky fisherman.

  30. Teenagers deny harassing female couple after they refused to perform sex act on bus

    Two 17-year-olds, a 16-year-old and another boy, 15, appeared at Highbury Corner Youth Court in London on Wednesday to enter not guilty pleas to a charge of causing harassment by using threatening or abusive words or behaviour.

    The court heard that the boys moved from the back of the bus to surround the women and began making sexual gestures.

    The boys are said to have demanded they kiss and perform sexual acts. The alleged harassment occurred at around 2.15am.

    Highbury Corner Youth Court heard that the boys threw coins at the women after the pair refused to kiss.

    Both women were taken to hospital with facial injuries after the incident.

    photo: staged or real?

    1. PieInTheSky

      Can’t really tell. I assume there was some investigation to see if the injuries were real. But id does not look obviously fake.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s an awful lot of blood spatter on her shirt from a split nose bridge.

      1. PieInTheSky

        I though that at first but noses can be bloody.

      2. Not so much. I’ve had my nose busted three times. Bled like hell all three times.

    3. Not Adahn

      …and of course, you know who’d to blame!

      What I will say is that the many who are linking this attack to Brexit are correct to do so. Homophobia isn’t a new scourge, but hate crimes have rocketed since the referendum. Austerity, pro-Leave propaganda and Tory rule have created a toxic and hostile environment, one where fascism, hate and toxic masculinity can flourish unchecked. And its little wonder our attackers feel emboldened when we look at the example Theresa May and her government are setting.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        But of course.

      2. WTF

        I wonder whether the attackers were “Asian youths”. It is Londonistan, after all.

        1. Suthenboy

          I wonder.

          I know this part is horseshit: “a toxic and hostile environment, one where fascism, hate and toxic masculinity can flourish unchecked.”

      3. Rebel Scum

        but hate crimes have rocketed since the referendum

        It’s happened since something, but that something is not the referendum.

        1. cyto

          Yeah… those kids were just sitting around being super nice, till that referendum told them it was OK to go on a rampage… sheesh.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      What is important is that those people were using mass transit. The real tragedy would have been if those women had driven their own private car home and raped Mother Gaia

    5. What kind of parents let their 15 year old kid roam around in a city like London at 2:15 in the morning?

      1. Not Adahn

        Why wouldn’t they? There’s no guns or knives, and if the kid trips and skins their knee, there’s free healthcare!

    6. R C Dean

      The thing is, there are no allegations or charges of an actual physical assault. They were verbally harassed and had coins thrown at them. So how did they get the injuries?

      1. Sean

        Psychokinesis ?

  31. robc

    Question I asked the other day about negative rate bonds:

    Is there some problem with sticking the money under your mattress? That yields better than those bonds.

    1. When people start doing that, the governments refactor the currency and make the old version no longer legal tender.

    2. PieInTheSky

      Well for banks and investors I assume a lot of the money is in computer bits and it is hard tom put those under the mattress.

      1. Sensei

        Yes – large quantities of physical cash really are problematic for businesses.

      2. robc

        Convert to btc, store thumb drive under mattress.

        1. PieInTheSky

          yes that is supersafe. But also interesting question, do you know a good way to turn 500 million to btc fast? and back again when needed?

          1. robc

            Send it to the fake McAfee twitter handle?

          2. Jarflax

            I do. I’ll send you wiring instructions if you want.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m assuming they can’t make the money liquid and have to keep it in their accounts. Government bonds are generally safer than uninsured accounts in a crash.

      1. invisible finger

        Which is why (government) pensions are in crisis. The safer investments don’t come close to the unrealistic expected return rate. Instead of changing the goal to a realistic rate of return, they just scare/threaten people into coughing up more money. Prop up one set of assets (real estate) at the expense of another asset (pensions). It’s this willful blindness to the bloody obvious that made me stop reading newspapers twenty years ago.

        1. robc

          Defined contribution instead of defined benefit.

          There is a reason everyone who can has changed to 401k/403b type programs.

          That way you dont have to set a “realistic” rate of return.

          1. invisible finger

            Yeah, well, government unions prefer threatening people than implementing workable solutions.

    4. Gadfly

      I was wondering the same thing. Why would anyone buy these bonds? Keeping it in a bank, or, you know, buy some other country’s bonds that still offering a positive rate would be a better investment. Hell, the US is on track for a deficit of $1T this year 🙁 so we know there are lots of positive rate bonds going on the market.

      1. Jarflax

        Not all that positive

      2. Don Escaped Texas

        a US bond is treated as the risk-free standard; returns aren’t everything

        in ten years, who knows if other issuers will be around to return your principal

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I note that TLT (20 year Treasury bond stock) is now trading at it’s all-time high, and that includes 2008. The flight to safety is well underway.

        2. Jarflax

          If Warren wins in 2020 that ‘risk free’ standard may evaporate. Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama did a lot of damage to our financial reputation, and murdering Qadaffi is a stop gap measure. Eventually you have to put your own house in order, not just kill would be competitors.

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            “is treated as”

            past returns are not . . . . . .

    5. invisible finger

      “Is there some problem with sticking the money under your mattress? That yields better than those bonds.”

      No they don;t yield better.

      A negative bond is guaranteed to lose the stated percentage if held to maturity. Hold fiat currency for the same amount of time and it loses value at the rate of money creation.

      But these bonds are like the 2005 housing market: buy at a high price (low yield) and hope to flip it at a higher price later. The difference is that house buyers are not forced by law to buy – the house owner might be the greater fool and will learn his fate soon enough. With pensions et al forced to buy bonds, the game can go on longer. If enough pensions go belly up, the next thing that will happen is individuals will be forced to purchase X% of their 401(k) contributions in the form of these bonds – and you can bet that 30-year old person with a 401K will be forced to buy a 30-year bond and hold to maturity rather than allow them to flip that bond in less than 2 years. This coerced demand has been going on for quite some time in some EU countries already, hence the high prices/negative yields. Can’t buy BTC if the law says you can’t.

      1. Jarflax

        No they don;t yield better.

        Since the bonds are denominated in the same fiat currency and have a negative yield holding the currency does in fact yield better. You lose the currency devaluation part in both cases, but with the bonds also have less of the currency.

        1. invisible finger

          Only when held to maturity, which nobody is doing. Everybody is looking to unload onto a greater fool.

  32. Lincoln Chafee: ‘I’d Be Open’ to a Libertarian White House Bid

    “I’m very motivated as an anti-war American, and also by the deficit,” said Chafee in an interview. “Those are two big issues that, if the Libertarian convention next summer thinks that someone with a long record on those issues… if I fit that, then yes, I’d be open to that.”

    A member of one of New England’s most prominent political families, Chafee recently left his home state and moved to Wyoming, citing his family’s love of the outdoors. Upon arrival, he switched his official party registration to Libertarian, marking his fourth different party affiliation in his political career.

    That news, announced via op-ed column, got Libertarian Party politicos chattering about the possibility that Chafee could carry the party’s banner for 2020. Despite Chaffee’s status as a political nomad and as a past backer of Democrats like Barack Obama, Libertarians held out hope he could juice their ticket, given that 2016 nominee Gary Johnson has ruled out a repeat run and the current primary field includes fugitive computer scientist John McAfee and oddball perennial candidate Vermin Supreme.

    yay?

    1. Rebel Scum

      Ain’t no party like a Libertarian Party.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Tut tut, you have to consider electability you know (even though the chances of a Libertarian being elected President are somewhat less than a snowball’s chance in Hell).

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The LP needs a Rockefeller Republican to save it.

      1. robc

        Weld worked so well.

    3. AlmightyJB

      He needs to go back to his tree and make more cookies.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel



        *blinks*
        *blinks*


        *enlightenment slowly dawns*

        OOOOHHHH BURRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    4. robc

      Is the LP asking for Badnarik 2.0?

      Because this is how you get Badnarik.

      I voted for him, and he is much better than Chafee, you know, actually being a libertarian. But still.

      1. prolefeed

        Well, he is no worse than Bob Barr and Bill Weld.

        /leaders of the Republican Wing of the LP

        1. robc

          Is these guys would party switch while they were in office, I would have more respect for them. When Chafee left the GOP while a senator, if he had registered LP then, I might have thought it questionable, but awesome.

        2. Jarflax

          Bill Weld isn’t even a Republican. He is the poster child for RINOs.

    5. Chipwooder

      Ugh, we need another Weld like a hole in the head

    6. B.P.

      “A member of one of New England’s most prominent political families, Chafee recently left his home state and moved to Wyoming, citing his family’s love of the outdoors.”

      I’ll assume he moved to Jackson Hole and not Rock Springs or Chugwater.

      1. whahappan

        Teton Village, Jackson Hole. You must me psychic!

  33. Pope Jimbo

    Slippery slope is a fallacy? Minnesoda Historical Society is gunning for its next victim. Is starting the process to rename Fort Snelling now that it has got Lake Calhoun renamed.

    “Obviously there’s conversations around the country about place names,” said Kent Whitworth, CEO of the Historical Society. “… We think it’s a really important and timely conversation.”

    The discussion comes at a time that the Historical Society, which is a nonprofit, is adding programs and exhibits to broaden the telling of the state’s story through the lens of more diverse communities — from slaves who lived at the fort to Japanese-American soldiers who trained there to the American Indians who lived there centuries before white settlers.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      How successful have the local good thinkers been at protecting locals from bad thoughts? Not only did they rename Lake Calhoun, but now they have approved plans to also rename streets around the lake.

      “Our indigenous and African-American youth should not have to walk down streets with names of people who pushed for the subjugation of and violence against the bodies of their ancestors. None of us should have to,” said Carly Bad Heart Bull.

      Park Commissioner Londel French agreed. “We can’t change history, but we can determine what the legacies of our buildings and our monuments are,” he said. “To ask me as a black man to keep a name of somebody as despicable as John C. Calhoun is disgusting.”

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I wish some troll who lived on one of those streets would sue the Park Board over the name change as an illegal taking. “I’m a white supremacist and the only reason I moved here is to have John Calhoun’s proud name as part of my address.”

        “None of my pure aryan sons should have to walk down a street named using some nonsense word from a mongrel race.”

        1. AlexinCT

          You be on fire homey!

          1. Jarflax

            Literally, after the antifa goon squad arrived.

        2. Gadfly

          One need not go that far. Bde Maka Ska translates as “Lake White Earth”, which should be obviously problematic. It boggles the mind that Minneapolis would choose such a clearly supremacist name for their main lake.

          1. Jarflax

            If the Indians wanted to name the lake they should have fought better. Winners get to name stuff. It’s how humanity works.

      2. Tundra

        Fuck this. Minneapolis is a fucking mess, and this is what they are spending their time on.

        The problem with moving out of this lunatic asylum, of course, is that this bullshit is spreading across the country.

        1. AlexinCT

          I recall this is an ancient problem. Didn’t the idiots running Byzantium also spend their last minutes before their walls were breached arguing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin instead of dealing with the barbarians at the gate?

          This usually comes down to not wanting to or being able to deal with the real problems, so you manufacture other insignificant ones, raise them to insane levels of importance, then pretend you really are doing something of value, while the house burns down around you.

          It is gold to do this shit as a politician though, because dealing with real and serious problems would actually show people how stupid and inept the political class is.

    1. Interesting link

        1. Private Chipperbot

          /sigh. A kid on our JV soccer team kicks for the varsity football team. He plunks 50 yarders with my son holding for him under the same conditions. He doesn’t start for either team.

          1. WTF

            NFL kickers routinely hit them from a lot farther on the practice field. Game conditions are another matter.

          2. I’ve hit a 55 yarder with a college ball from a normal field goal runup. Of course, the ball would’ve gone up the center’s ass in a real game scenario.

            It’s not unheard of for a kickoff to go through the uprights in HS, College, and NFL games, at least until some of the recent adjustments to the kickoff location. Good luck getting it to the 20 yard line kicking from there with the required trajectory to avoid it being blocked.

        2. Jarflax

          She may be able to kick it. But what happens the first time protection breaks down and she gets hit? Kickers do get hit.

          1. Not Adahn

            That would be a hate crime and the misogynist would be thrown in prison.

        3. whiz

          She had a long run up in her attempt.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    large quantities of physical cash really are problematic for businesses.

    see, also: “legal” marijuana

  35. The Late P Brooks

    Homophobia isn’t a new scourge, but hate crimes have rocketed since the referendum. Austerity, pro-Leave propaganda and Tory rule have created a toxic and hostile environment, one where fascism, hate and toxic masculinity can flourish unchecked.

    Wheeeeee!

    1. Until Brexit, teenage British boys were known for their inclusive treatment of people. That’s a fact!
      -leftist twit

  36. Babies and diapers are replacing sex and drugs at Burning Man

    “Our son is such an extension of our life, and Burning Man is a part of our life year-round,” says Snyder, a decade-long Burner and cannabis activist from Chicago. “It was never a discussion.”

    Today, 3-year-old Tage has been to the infamous art-and-music gathering outside Reno, Nev., every summer of his life, including in utero. And he won’t be the odd kid out this Sunday, when the festival begins: Although a nine-day desert bacchanal rife with dust storms, psychedelic drugs and raves doesn’t exactly scream “family fun,” insiders estimate that anywhere from 500 to 2,000 children congregate at Burning Man every year. In the makeshift city — or playa, as it’s known — baby Burners can attend events like the Intergalactic Family Dance Party, do arts and crafts and enjoy some screen-free time with their parents under the desert sun.

    Although Burner moms and dads swear it’s worth it, bringing Tage for the first time “was an adjustment,” Snyder says. The playa, she says, is scorching hot during the day and cold at night. Money is banned at the festival, so everything — food, shelter, water — must be planned ahead. And although her son can burn for free until he turns 12 (after that, admission is $390, like it is for adults), he comes with his own set of complications. Like diapers.

    obligatory cheeky shot of the mum

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Over/under on the age at which the kid either dies from an OD or gets divorced from his parents?

      1. Jarflax

        My money is on skin cancer before puberty.

    2. “obligatory cheeky shot of the mum”

      Would.

      1. Not Adahn

        Yup. That’s exactly the kind of person who should be getting naked at festivals.

      2. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

        No argument here.

    3. AlmightyJB

      The new Disneyland

    4. Timeloose

      Tage? That’s a new one for me. Is Gage too trailer trash now.

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Feel bad for that kid.

    5. ElspethFlashman

      $390 for admission? What the actual heck people.

      1. Nephilium

        Not that far out of the ordinary for a multi-day festival ticket. Viva Las Vegas is a cheap one, and that runs ~$150 if you purchase them early enough, and that doesn’t include any hotel costs.

        1. We’re $5 for a show punk rockers! (or we used to be)

          1. Nephilium

            Around here the cheap shows were always $9-$10 (+$5 if you were under 21). A couple bands still tour at around that price point, but most are now in the $20 range. At least the spirit of the old venues still lives on at a couple of the cheap places, the Grog Shop and the Beachland. Both run by the same woman who’s been running them for 25+ years.

            If only I could convince the girlfriend to go to more shows, her response is, “We’ve seen them already.”

            Well, yeah. But they’re awesome, and we should see them more.

    6. Gadfly

      Money is banned at the festival…admission is $390

      At least they are consistent.

  37. PieInTheSky

    Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava has been fined €78,000 ($86,000) for what the city deemed design flaws on the Constitution Bridge that spans the Grand Canal.
    The decision was handed down on August 9, 2019, by an Italian court.
    The verdict said the architect was “negligent” in his construction process and cited the fact that Calatrava has designed other bridges — including in Dallas, Texas, and Calgary, Alberta — as proof that he should have had enough information to work with to construct a sound structure.

    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/constitution-bridge-fine-venice-italy/index.html

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Several glass steps on a pedestrian footpath have broken? Say it ain’t so.

    2. leon

      Remember that time Italy jailed scientists for failing to predict an earthquake? Yeah. I have full faith in the Italian justice system.

      1. Not Adahn

        *Foxy Knoxy waves ciao*

    3. Don Escaped Texas

      The MOSE in Venice doesn’t work, either

      I’m not sure it says so in the linked article, but the most basic premise of the tide walls failed: the are designed to lay down in recesses in the bay’s floor, but, of course, those recesses fill with muck. Also, the walls are steel and the coatings are already failing, but you can’t dry-dock and wall and repaint it every five years.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I watched a doc on all this and the aim to save Venice. Fascinating.

        1. Don Escaped Texas

          I’d love to see a design failure mode effects analysis for it that shows the risk of sediment build-up as zero . . . or the consequences of same as zero.

          Who signed that?!1!?

      2. I seem to recall steel storm control walls along the east coast of the US with sacrificial zinc anodes holding up fairly well. Why’d they go with a hard to replace paint job?

      3. robc

        Hire the Dutch, they seem to have it figured out.

        1. Jarflax

          You hire southern Europeans to prepare your food and wine. You hire northern Europeans to do civil engineering. This is known.

          1. Southern Europeans disqualified themselves from culinary competition when they decided olives were edible.

          2. Jarflax

            Are we still trying to rank UCS posts on the wrongness scale? Can I get a judge?

          3. It’s easy. I’m always right.

          4. Jarflax

            You are always certain. That is different.

          5. I am certain because I am right.

  38. Thot Thursday sez WOE UNTO THEE.

    http://archive.is/WH90L

    1. AlmightyJB

      I think that’s a rerun. So you need to post another one:)

        1. AlmightyJB

          Nicely done:)

    2. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

      16 could melt a grilled cheese at 40 paces.

  39. Letter to the editor: Trump inspires hateful actions

    Adolf Hitler didn’t pull the trigger. Benito Mussolini didn’t pull the trigger. Josef Stalin didn’t pull the trigger. But they all incited the violence that led to all the triggers being pulled.

    President Donald Trump incites the violence. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., doesn’t preach hate and violence. The man who shot up Congress members’ baseball practice was an evil scumbag. Regardless of political parties, no one should have access to military-style weapons except law enforcement and the military.

    Trump is a racist and narcissist who has divided this country even more than it was. He should be removed from office.

    actually Hitler did pull a trigger – ammirite?

    1. If Trump can be blamed for the actions of others, then so can Bernie.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      He forgot Mao. Che and Castro did pull the trigger.

      He beyond retarded have people become in their deranged TDS?

      It’s beyond belief.

    3. leon

      “Sanders, I-Vt., doesn’t preach hate and violence. ”

      Except the whole rage against the rich and steal their stuff.

      And if you say “Bernie doesn’t say that” well Trump doesn’t say to kill Mexicans.

        1. Jarflax

          Mendacious fucks that have never worked a day in their lives talking about ‘the working class’ is precious.

      1. Rebel Scum

        “Sanders, I-Vt., doesn’t preach hate and violence. ”

        Except about those evil rich 1 percenter bastards and anyone who likes choices, low taxes, is an NRA member, etc.

    4. AlmightyJB

      Trump is definitely a narcissist and an asshole. I’ve seen zero evidence that he’s anymore racist than you average left wing news anchor.

      1. Harsh. Left wing news anchors are pretty damn racist as a rule.

        1. AlmightyJB

          The left wants this dualistic simplistic childish good/evil, racist/not racist standard applied to their enemies. Reality isn’t like that. On a racist scale of 0 to 10, no one is a zero. But if you give I have a dream MLKJ a 1 and exterminate the Jews Hitler a 10, Trump is closer to MLKJ than Hitler. Maybe a 3 or a 4? I don’t personally know him so that’s just a guess. More ignorance than malevolence.

      2. I think there’s piles of evidence that he’s significantly less racist.

      3. invisible finger

        “Trump is definitely a narcissist and an asshole. ”

        Like every other candidate.

    5. Stinky Wizzleteats

      He also shot Rohm in the basement of an SS prison so that person is just wrong.

      1. Chipwooder

        That was Theodor Eicke

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          My bad, I’ve seen people speculate that Hitler did it personally but that doesn’t seem to be the widely accepted or most probable scenario.

          1. Gadfly

            I heard that Rohm demanded Hitler be a man and do it personally, but that he didn’t.

      2. “Hitler better at fighting far-right extremists than Trump, research uncovers”
        -CNN chyron

    6. Rebel Scum

      no one should have access to military-style weapons except law enforcement and the military

      Holding to this incorrect premise, why should civilian law enforcement have access to military weapons?

      Trump is a racist and narcissist

      Narcissist, sure. Racist, no.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        We haven’t had a nonnarcissist since Washington.

        1. mock-star

          Coolidge has a sad.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    A moment of silence, please

    Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is dropping out of the 2020 Democratic presidential race, he announced Wednesday night on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show.”

    Inslee plans to send an email to supporters on Thursday announcing that he will run for a third term as governor, two sources close to Inslee told NBC News on condition of anonymity.

    “It’s become clear that I’m not going to be carrying the ball. I’m not going to be the president, so I’m withdrawing tonight from the race,” he told Maddow, vowing he’d help keep the other 2020 candidates focused on issue of climate change, the centerpiece of his campaign. “I’ve been fighting climate change for 25 years, and I’ve never been so confident of the ability of America now to reach critical mass to move the ball.”

    Inslee’s presidential campaign was bookended with pleas to take climate change seriously.

    “This is our moment to put the greatest threat to our existence, to our economy, to our health, at the very top of the nation’s agenda,” Inslee said in March at his campaign’s kickoff event in Seattle.

    Serious candidates, for serious people.

    1. >>an email to supporters

      all three of them. His mum, his wife, and his dead father-in-law.

    2. Rebel Scum

      Who?

    3. R C Dean

      “Welp, I think we’ve pretty much squeezed our fundraising dry.”

    4. Jarflax

      This is our moment to put the greatest threat to our existence, to our economy, to our health, at the very top of the nation’s agenda

      Banning Democrats?

    1. AlmightyJB

      Five men and an 85 yo woman. Nicely done grandma.

      1. AlexinCT

        Gives new meaning to the term “Skankma”.

  41. Rebel Scum

    Policies shmolicies.

    Wednesday on MSNBC’s “MTP Daily,” NBC News correspondent and MSNBC host Kasie Hunt suggested if voters want “character” in politicians “elect a woman.”

    Hunt said, “Can I just say, character-wise, let’s elect a woman, okay? Like this nonsense that’s been coming from our male politicians of all parties — I don’t know. I’m tired of it! You don’t want to worry about character? Elect a woman! Please. Thank you.”

    Host Chuck Todd said, “There it is. I never understood why that in itself a reform message which is you don’t see woman governors getting into these scandals.”

    Hunt said, “I’m sure I will be accused of being sexist in the opposite direction, but the facts are what they are.”

    Todd said, “The facts are the facts.”

    He added, “Kasie, well facted.”

    1. WTF

      if voters want “character” in politicians “elect a woman.”

      Like Hillary Clinton? Lieawatha? Kamala Harris? Kirsten Gillibrand?
      How the fuck can anybody actually take that shit seriously?

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’d vote for Margaret Thatcher.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        I’d vote for Golda Meir.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Well, I’d vote for Clare Booth Luce!

          1. Winston’s mom!

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Can’t argue with that.

            HI MRS. WINSTON!

          3. Jarflax

            Catherine the Great or get on your horse and leave!

        2. Chipwooder

          I can’t ever read or hear the name Golda Meir without think of the hilarious Frasier episode where Fraiser and Lilith desperately try to get their son admitted to a prestigious prep school, the machinations of which eventually lead Lilith to invent a story about getting earrings as a gift from Golda Meir, whom she supposedly knew through her son, Oscar Meir.

    3. leon

      “Host Chuck Todd said, “There it is. I never understood why that in itself a reform message which is you don’t see woman governors getting into these scandals”

      I mean it only takes one counterexample to disprove this… Let’s see. Wasn’t there that female politician in Baltimore…

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Cut Chuck some slack, he’s a moron.

      2. Old Man With Candy

        Wasn’t there that female politician in Baltimore…

        Which one? There have been multiple scandals with female politicians in Baltimore.

        Also Chicago, but it’s easier to get away with it there.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The facts are the facts unless the facts that are the facts aren’t actually facts which these facts in fact are not.

    5. leon

      “Todd said, “The facts are the facts.”
      He added, “Kasie, well facted.””

      Oh fuck off retard.

  42. MikeS

    John Lee Hooker kicks ass. Thanks for the excellent song, Sloop.

    1. Don Escaped Texas

      * turns amp down to 3 *

      Hooker, Sam Cooke, Muddy Waters, Ike Turner, Conway Twitty, and I were born in the same county

      * turns amp back up to 11 *

      1. So, what’s your excuse?

      2. MikeS

        Also; Son House.

        Would you say Coahoma County gave you the blues?

        1. B.P.

          Son House is my #1 in the blues category.

  43. TW: Politifact

    No evidence Hitler made this statement about gun control

    A recent Facebook post appears to forebode a dark future for the United States if it tightens gun laws by quoting Adolf Hitler on gun control in Germany.

    “This year will go down in history,” begins the Aug. 8 post. “For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!”

    Peter Hayes, a Northwestern University professor who specializes in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust, offered a quick history lesson:

    A 1928 law that pre-dated the Nazi regime required people to seek state permission to buy or own a weapon and local police could revoke that permission at any time. In 1931, the law was amended to require people seeking that permission to prove they needed a weapon. In 1938, during Nazi rule, the law was changed so it was harder for Roma to have guns and easier for Nazis to carry them. A separate decree in 1938 forbade Jews from having guns.

    Maybe, Hayes said, the Facebook posts refers to another such a decree issued in 1935 but, “I haven’t heard of it.”

    He was also suspicious of the language used in the Facebook quote. “Registration” isn’t a typical term in German gun laws, he said.

    Jeffrey Herf, a history professor at the University of Maryland, told us: “My very strong suspicion is that this is a hoax.”

    Christopher Browning, a University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill professor emeritus who has researched and written extensively about Nazi Germany and the Holocaust, concurred. “This sounds like a complete and total fabrication to me, invented for obvious reasons,” he said.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Distinction without a difference

    2. LJW

      So Politifact is monitoring Facebook posts now?

    3. WTF

      So, they’re saying gun control in Nazi Germany worked out well for the Roma and the Jews?

      1. AlexinCT

        I think what they desperately want is to confound people so they don’t see the inherent risk in a government that has disarmed the people and then proceeds to do evil shit because nobody can fight back, because that would hurt their aid and abetting efforts of the political class hell bent on forcing the people to accept the elite political class as a new nobility.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That’s not really what this is about anyway.

        This is about keeping the political usage of NAZI! on the left. It’s one of their favorite epithets and it is effective. Letting their opponents use the NAZI! argument against them is unacceptable and must be derailed.

    4. Don Escaped Texas

      a/ It’s a simple matter for someone to publish the 1935 law; I’ve never seen it, only seen references to it. Someone needs to track this down.

      b/ Local / political / police actions surely disarmed minorities regardless of what was on federal books.

      c/ Weimar code still on the books was terribly restrictive. It’s fair to say that anyone who came to office would have had almost complete police power. Orderly countries are, well, orderly, for good or for bad.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        The Weimar Republic was extremely restrictive concerning gun rights. I don’t recall if that was imposed on them or if it was self-inflicted in order to maintain the German state and prevent a break-up.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Response to the freikorps, or the freikorps were in spite of those laws?

        2. Raston Bot

          from what i recall from Halbrooks gun control in Nazi Germany book, the 1928 registration law was partially in response to Nazis and communists in open war on the streets.

    5. Raston Bot

      tell those leftist cunts to fact-check this one:

      “There is nothing sensational in the reports from the Occupied Territories. The only thing noteworthy is exceptionally sharp fighting in Warsaw between our Police, and in part even the Wehrmacht, and the Jewish rebels. The Jews have actually succeeded in putting the ghetto in a condition to defend itself. Some very hard battles are taking place there, which have gone so far that the Jewish top leadership publishes daily military reports. Of course this jest will probably not last long. But it shows what one can expect of the Jews if they have arms. Unfortunately they also have some good German weapons in part, particularly machine-guns. Heaven only knows how they got hold of them.”

      Sources: J. Goebbels, Goebbels Tagebuecher aus den Jahren 1942-1943, mit andern Dokumenten (“Goebbels’ Diaries for the Years 1942-1943, and Other Documents”), Zurich, 1948, p. 318; Yad Vashem

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Eric Posner, intellectual titan

    On Monday, the Business Roundtable, a group that represents CEOs of big corporations, declared that it had changed its mind about the “purpose of a corporation.” That purpose is no longer to maximize profits for shareholders, but to benefit other “stakeholders” as well, including employees, customers, and citizens.

    While the statement is a welcome repudiation of a highly influential but spurious theory of corporate responsibility, this new philosophy will not likely change the way corporations behave. The only way to force corporations to act in the public interest is to subject them to legal regulation.

    The shareholder theory is usually credited to Milton Friedman, the University of Chicago economist and Nobel laureate. In a famous 1970 New York Times article, Friedman argued that because the CEO is an “employee” of the shareholders, he or she must act in their interest, which is to give them the highest return possible. Friedman pointed out that if a CEO acts otherwise—let’s say, donates corporate funds to an environmental cause or to reduce poverty—the CEO must get those funds from customers (through higher prices), workers (through lower wages), or shareholders (through lower returns). But then the CEO is just imposing a “tax” on other people, and using the funds for a social cause that he or she has no particular expertise in. It would be better to let customers, workers, or investors use that money to make their own charitable contributions if they wish to.

    Friedman’s theory was wildly popular because it seemed to absolve corporations of difficult moral choices and to protect them from public criticism as long as they made profits.

    Businesses, or more accurately, the people who run them, should not be making “moral choices” on behalf of others with no regard for their desires or beliefs? What outlandish poppycock!

    I really don’t want that preening jackass from Blackrock trying to remake society in his own image.

    1. leon

      Did they tell their shareholders that Trump had been impeached before smothering them to death?

    2. wdalasio

      The only way to force corporations to act in the public interest is to subject them to legal regulation.

      Which is pretty much what the Business Roundtable just invited. Under the shareholder theory, it was clear that the government trying to impose predatory controls over companies was predating on the property of the shareholders. Even if the management was acting as trustees on the shareholders’ behalf, the property was, at least in theory, the shareholders’ to be managed on their behalf. But, if companies are merely a balance of “stakeholder” interests, there’s no reason whatsoever the government can’t step in to realign those interests in any way it sees fit. The shareholders no longer have a dominant claim, and if they don’t, neither do their agents in management.

      This is a horrifyingly awful move on the Roundtable’s part. It’s an invitation to turn American business into a corporatist battle of competing cronies looking to their masters in the state to dismiss the rights of everyone else.

      1. invisible finger

        You know who ELSE forced corporations to act in the public interest?

        1. wdalasio

          That nice Mr. Hilter?

          1. wdalasio

            I’m still not too sure about his bompcenbration bamps.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      As much as I hate that boot-licker Posner, he does identify a significant failing in current corporate governance:

      Nor was Friedman correct that business executives are the employees of the shareholders. Legally, business executives are employees of the corporation, which—crucially—they, not the shareholders, control. The shareholders have a contractual relationship with the corporation that entitles them to a share of its profits and a vote on certain major corporate decisions. Time and again, CEOs have used their power over the corporation to bat away shareholders when they propose that the corporation should act in a socially responsible way. When an employer says “jump” to an employee, the employee jumps. When shareholders say “jump” to the CEO, the CEO sues them.

      Still, his argument amounts to “shareholders have been neutered, so corporations should cede control to the government”

      1. wdalasio

        This strikes me as a bit of a silly semantic game on Posner’s part. If a Board (the shareholders’ ostensible representatives) tells a CEO to jump, he sure as hell jumps. And if he doesn’t his kiester may well be out the door post haste. So, saying the shareholders aren’t the boss is more than a little misleading.

        Now, I’ll be the first to grant that the connections between Boards and shareholders has been screwed (mostly by government intervention in favor of entrenched management), but that doesn’t mean that management isn’t still supposed to be answerable to the shareholders.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Note that he doesn’t even mention the board. That’s how much they matter in today’s environment. It seems to be a rarity that a board actually does its job.

          1. wdalasio

            Well, that’s true. But, that doesn’t mean the Board is supposed to be neutered. That bespeaks a problem with corporate governance, not a problem with the idea of shareholder sovereignty. Also, I’m sure he evades the notion of the Board because it would throw his argument out the door.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I agree. I only noted that Posner identified a problem. His solution sucks.

        2. invisible finger

          The other option the shareholders have is to dump their stock. Then they don;t have to take the CEO’s bullshit anymore AND it lowers the stock price which will usually piss off shareholder that DO support the CEO. And typically an outsider will find a set of disgruntled shareholders or vice versa and threaten the CEO that way.

          The one tool the CEO’s do have at their displosal to is borrow money for stock buybacks. Maybe if the Federal Reserve was audited this tool wouldn’t be so widely used.

          So basically Posner is an asshole who’s “solutions” only exacerbate the problem. Putting more government regulation in only makes the board even more meaningless.

          1. wdalasio

            Putting more government regulation in only makes the board even more meaningless.

            Well, no, it will make the shareholder-elected board members more meaningless.

    4. Suthenboy

      So…textbook fascism.

      “the “purpose of a corporation.” That purpose is no longer to maximize profits for shareholders,…”

      That is not the purpose of a corporation at all. It has nothing to do with the purpose of a corporation.

      If they can remove the incentives for people to invest capital in businesses they will have gone a long way towards their goal of destroying capitalism.

  45. LJW

    6 Senior Citizens Arrested For Public Sex in Fairfield

    “Police say the six, five men and an 85-year-old woman, were involved in lewd and sexual activity in the Grace Richardson conservation area in Fairfield earlier this month.”

    Just gonna leave this here.

    1. Were the Cleveland Browns watching as drugs popped out of their cooches? Lou Reed wants to know.

      1. LJW

        Damn it I looked everywhere when was this already posted!?

        1. AlexinCT

          Scroll up.

          1. LJW

            Damn it I quit.

      2. ElspethFlashman

        Yes, yes they were. +1 lolololll

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      They figure they should go out with a bang.

      /shoves Glib of choice in front as human shield from vegetables.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Tage? That’s a new one for me. Is Gage too trailer trash now.

    Wasn’t that Buster Brown’s dog’s name?

    1. Timeloose

      That was Tige

  47. Wait, what?

    A recent report from the Independent claims that videos of robot battles are being removed from YouTube over claims of “animal cruelty.” The platform has reportedly removed hundreds of videos from popular robot battle events claiming that they are in breach of the rules of the site surrounding animal cruelty. To be clear — these are videos of remote-controlled mechanical robots constructed by engineers smashing into each other, they are not alive or sentient.

    1. AlexinCT

      SKYNET IS ALIVE!

    2. >> To be clear

      that was necessary

      related: the never ending pie throwing robot
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4Uvm9kExU8

      “Does it please you to watch me struggle?”

      1. I didn’t write the text in the blockquote. I merely copied it.

        1. of course! To be clear I didn’t assume otherwise.

      2. ElspethFlashman

        I want a pie-throwing robot. I loved that episode.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Sounds like their AI recognition systems need some tweaking.

    4. Sensei

      I’ll have you know Japanese grammar considers robots the same way it does people.

      Existence Verbs

      Which surprised me, but does make sense. It distinguishes between animate and inanimate. However, a car is inanimate and robot is animate. So it seems to imply some level of autonomy.

      1. Gustave Lytton
      2. Suthenboy

        Or more about the perception of the person.

  48. The Late P Brooks

    Todd said, “The facts are the facts.”

    They are, indeed, Chuck, no matter how hard you and your colleagues try to muddle and obscure them.

  49. Friedman has a sad.

    China’s parliament rules out allowing same-sex marriage

    Taiwan’s parliament passed a bill in May that endorsed same-sex marriage, after years of heated debate over marriage equality that has divided the self-ruled and democratic island.

    China, which claims Taiwan as its territory, has a thriving gay scene in major cities, but there has been little sign the ruling Communist Party will legalize same-sex marriage.

    Asked at a news briefing whether China would legalize same-sex marriage, Zang Tiewei, spokesman for parliament’s legal affairs commission, said Chinese law only allowed for marriage between one man and one woman.

    “This rule suits our country’s national condition and historical and cultural traditions,” he said. “As far as I know, the vast majority of countries in the world do not recognize the legalization of same-sex marriage.”

    1. Rhywun

      I would think “gay marriage” might have to go through “free speech” and maybe “elections” first. *shrug*

    2. Suthenboy

      Everyone loves a totalitarian until that totalitarian is someone else’s totalitarian.

      When I think of the lefty intellect I think of that pathetic creature at the end of Harry Potter, a tiny, helpless, mewling nearly still-born abomination.

    1. leon

      Did they shoot Tesla before the drugs fell out or after?

      1. Lou Reed had sex with the Cleveland Browns. Or something.

  50. Juvenile Bluster

    I get e-mails: A CLE course on New Jersey’s gun laws!

    With mass shootings on the rise, and a state and national debate on guns unfolding before our eyes, the time has come for every New Jersey attorney to have an understanding of New Jersey’s strict and sometimes complex gun laws.

    – There have been nearly 150 mass shootings in the United States so far in 2019,
    killing 149 people and wounding an additional 585 people.
    – In April of 2019 alone, there were 512 guns recovered from criminals and other
    sources in New Jersey.
    – There were 73 victims of shootings in New Jersey in April of 2019.

    New Jersey already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, and there is a tremendous amount of debate about further strengthening them. As an attorney, you’re likely to encounter a wide range of situations involving guns, including individuals seeking to purchase them and those charged with possessing them illegally. As a result, it’s important that you have a working knowledge of our state’s gun laws and regulations.

    I’d love to know what definition of “mass shooting” they’re using, since those numbers don’t add up. Also, how could you possibly strengthen NJ’s gun laws? Summary execution for possession would be it, pretty much.

    1. “I’d love to know what definition of “mass shooting” they’re using”

      Considering it leaves the death:shooting ratio < 1 I'm guessing it's bullshit.

      1. I think it’s any shooting where four or more people are shot. Or maybe it’s shot at. I can’t remember. But I do know it has to do with four people being involved not including the shooter.

      2. Atanarjuat

        Typically those kinds of “hundreds of mass shootings” numbers include all kinds of gang shootouts and self defense scenarios.

    2. Chipwooder

      Also, how could you possibly strengthen NJ’s gun laws?

      Feeding offenders to the lions, Roman style?

    3. how could you possibly strengthen NJ’s gun laws?

      Delete them all. Now they are as strong as they can go.

    4. Sensei

      Don’t get me started on trying to decipher NJ’s gun laws. Fortunately I have an attorney on staff (aka in the family) experienced in NJ criminal law.

      Yet somehow in Camden and Newark a day doesn’t go by without somebody getting shot.

    1. It’s always about the (((gold)))

      1. leon

        I thought it was always about the Benjamin’s.

        Stupid bitch was wrong.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      “There has been a lot of discussion for the past … eight months about anti-Semitism,” she said. “We have what I believe is a full-on attempt by the Republican Party to grab a different community and bring them into the fold, and I will just be very honest. … They are not looking for our votes, because we are a relatively small community. They are looking for our donors, right? They are looking for our donors, and they are trying to sway us.”

      LOL. She just self-racist’d

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I get the antiSemetic implications but, let’s face it, people who identify as Jews donate to political campaigns out of proportion to their numbers. Of course the GOP wants Jews for their money. There may be other reasons too but that’s undeniably one of them.

  51. Political Pressures Block Spanish Humanitarian Ship

    A Spanish navy frigate sailed from Cadiz Wednesday to escort the humanitarian vessel Open Arms back from Italy with a token number of 10 refugees Spain has agreed to take in what could be the Barcelona-based ship’s last voyage under mounting pressure to stop rescuing shipwrecked African migrants.

    The Italian government said Tuesday it would hold the ship for two weeks to conduct an investigation after it was allowed to land with 80 migrants following a 20-day ordeal at sea. Interior ministry officials suggested Spain should take all the migrants as the ship’s voyage originated from there.

    In an apparent policy shift by Spain’s socialist government, top officials publicly threatened to clamp a $1 million fine on the Open Arms charity after its latest “unauthorized” rescue of 160 refugees off Libya’s coast.

    Italy also has moved to impound the ship. The humanitarian ordeal caused by the country’s refusal to accept the refugees touched off a government crisis, and led to tense negotiations with the European Union to determine the fate of the migrants on board.

    #ORANGEMANBAD

    1. leon

      “clamp a $1 million fine on the Open Arms charity after its latest “unauthorized” rescue of 160 refugees off Libya’s coast.”

      You rescued those people who
      Without permission!!

      1. Did they return them to Libya, or did they try to help them finish sneaking into Europe?

    2. R C Dean

      This is an organized and well-funded operation. I find it very difficult to believe they are just randomly roaming around hoping to encounter “refugees” in distress. More likely, these are pre-arranged pickups at sea, where a co-conspirator ferries the “refugees” to them. I doubt there’s anything humanitarian about it, beyond the debatable humanitarianism of facilitating human smuggling from a shithole to a welfare state.

    3. B.P.

      If I had a boat and rescued someone off the coast of North Africa I would probably ferry that person to…. North Africa.

      1. Suthenboy

        Doubtful. They would cut your throat, toss. you over and continue on to Europe.

  52. Certified Public Asshat

    “For me personally, I was able to get a four-year diploma without debt, because taxpayers had invested in a commuter college that would cost $50. That option is not there any more,” Warren told reporters in Franconia.

    Make all colleges commuter colleges.

    1. invisible finger

      Sounds like she got exactly what the paid for: a diploma with no matching skills.

    1. KSuellington

      Progressively more insane by the day here.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s beyond parody

      1. Rhywun

        The Bee should just copy-paste that into a new article.

    3. Sean

      Oh, FFS.

      Fuck those people. They’re delusional idiots.

    4. Rebel Scum

      That’s fucking retarded and unhelpful. It doesn’t actually describe what is supposed to be intended.

      1. B.P.

        Crime victims are arguably also “justice involved persons”>

  53. Festus

    Tapping out now. As to Agent Cooper’s query about day-drinking, I’ll reiterate that I’m a Night Walker so what seems early to you mortals is deathly late to me. Cheers!

    1. STEVE SMITH NEVER TAP OUT. FINISH JOB.

  54. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy and the rest of you Boom Boomers!

    Thanks for the lynx, but did you hear Walmart sued Tesla?!?

    1. something something Cleveland Browns

  55. Juvenile Bluster

    Texas executed a (probably) innocent man yesterday. A twitter thread: https://twitter.com/andrewpurc/status/1164165860556267520

    1. straffinrun

      An expert witness from the Texas crime lab testified that the two legs were “a unique physical match” because they “fit together like a jigsaw puzzle” – a ‘forensic’ pattern matching technique that has since been comprehensively debunked 7/

      This is where I my lack of forensic knowledge comes into play. It seems like they should be able to confirm conclusively whether or not the legs came from the same set.

      1. cyto

        I had several rants on TOS about this last night.

        My suspicion is that he was the right guy. The only piece of evidence that would point to his innocence is the disputed time of death. And that dispute is somewhat suspect.

        There’s a lot more evidence that he is guilty than the defense lets on – evidence that they have no explanation for.

        My big WTF moment is that the state keeps fighting DNA testing. In this case, they successfully prevented testing blood under her fingernails. Why? No idea.

    2. Chipwooder

      I will never completely opposed the death penalty. There are simply too many wastes of life who should not be allowed to breathe the same air as the rest of us. Its use should be highly restricted, however, to the most depraved of murders in which there is absolutely no question as to guilt. The James Holmeses of the world, the Ted Bundys, etc.

      1. straffinrun

        What could go wrong with state sponsored executions?

        1. Chipwooder

          Quite a bit. I’m not arguing otherwise.

          Still have no compunction about putting down the worst of the worst.

        2. Agreed, but my problem with them is that I’m not comfortable giving the state the right to execute its own citizens. I realize that life imprisonment is arguably a difference in degree rather than kind, but it’s not nearly so final and allows for some remedy in the case where a mistake is made. At the same time, I’m more OK with vigilante justice, to be totally honest. Murder should remain illegal, but if you’re so sure someone is guilty of a crime against you, your family, or your friends that you’re willing to go to prison for it, put the issue before a jury and see what happens. Somehow the cold, dispassionate killing of a person by agents of the state that have no stake in the matter seems orders of magnitude worse.

          1. At the same time, I’m more OK with vigilante justice, to be totally honest. Murder should remain illegal, but if you’re so sure someone is guilty of a crime against you, your family, or your friends that you’re willing to go to prison for it, put the issue before a jury and see what happens.

            This is where I’m at. I’d much rather look the other way from an extra judicial killing than give the state the power of killing citizens.

          2. Well, the state has no skin in the game, so to speak, and nothing to lose if its wrong. The guy who flips the switch is just some schmuck getting a paycheck. If it’s the wrong guy, well, how was he to know? He was just doing what he was supposed to do.

          3. straffinrun

            I’m saying that it’s a certainty that the state will fuck up and execute innocent people, so no need for a “but” in what you’re saying. I want murderous scumbags eliminated from society, too. As you say, put it in front of jury and see what happens. Just have to be sure that the jury knows that nullification is a legitimate option.

          4. R C Dean

            Lynchings have their own ugly history, complete with non-prosecution or jury nullification of the killers. I’m not sure I would prefer them to state executions, at all.

          5. straffinrun

            True. I’d still take them over state sponsored executions just because it would be hard for vigilantes to match the mass scale injustices the state is capable of.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The problem with that is people would use those exceptions to a ban to broaden the exceptions to other situations. The slippery slope is slippery.

      3. Semi-Spartan Dad

        Agreed. I also strongly object to having money forcefully taken from me to keep animals like these fed, clothed, and sheltered in prison for the rest of their lives. I understand that the death penalty can now cost more than life in prison, but that shouldn’t be the case.

        1. Chipwooder

          Right. Drag the motherfucker out back and put two in his head. That doesn’t cost much.

    3. AlmightyJB

      TOS has an article up about the case.

  56. Rufus the Monocled

    Quintet plays Pink Panther in the woods.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIIO408ats

    Comment:

    George Blue
    George Blue
    2 weeks ago (edited)
    Imagine sneaking down a forest trail as quietly as possible so as not to disturb a sleeping bear… and then a double bass quintet starts playing this theme.

  57. The Late P Brooks

    did you hear Walmart sued Tesla?!?

    Because Elon Musk said they should stop selling guns?

  58. Fatty Bolger

    Six people aged 62 to 85 arrested for ‘sexual activity’ in woods after police surveillance operation

    Six people aged 62 to 85 have been arrested after police officers went into the woods to watch them having sex.

    The group was arrested in a conservation area in Fairfield, Connecticut, which is some 87 acres in size.

    Police said they had found posts online advertising the Grace Richardson environmental preserve as somewhere to meet and have sex, according to the Associated Press news agency.

    Officers began a spying operation to snare anyone taking part in the lewd activities.

    They allegedly spotted the group of five men and one woman committing a number of breaches of the law before moving in, AP reported.

    The six now face charges including public indecency and breaching the peace. They were released after promising to appear in court.

    Apparently the woman is the 85 year old.

    1. Have you no shame, Fatty?

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Maybe it’s a different 85 year old! You don’t know!

        (hangs head in shame)

  59. Semi-Spartan Dad

    On a lighter note, this Babylon Bee story got a laugh out of me. Describes my wife to a T, though she didn’t find it amusing.

    Wife Unaware That Movie Will Answer All Her Questions If She Just Pays Attention
    https://babylonbee.com/news/wife-unaware-that-movie-will-answer-all-her-questions-if-she-just-pays-attention

    SANDUSKY, CO—Steve and Leslie Hendrickson were having movie night last week but the experience was diminished by Leslie’s constant question-asking, reports Steve.

    “I don’t think she realizes that every question she asks is literally going to be answered by the movie if she just watches it,” Steve recalled. “Like, that’s what stories do. They present questions, then the story answers those questions as the plot progresses. I thought people knew this.”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m going to regret it, but I just sent that to my wife.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        real life works that way, too

        NewWife asks when so and so is going to do whatever; I shrug: didn’t ask. Why not!!!?11?!

        Because people are idiots and 80% of what they tell you isn’t true or won’t work out.

        So just lay back and wait and don’t plan one second of your life around what anyone else says or plans or promises.

        Who has the emotional energy to keep up with other people and their bullshit?

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          Preach it Don.

      2. Tundra

        I was about to, but stopped myself just in time.

        1. AlexinCT

          You sir, are…..

          Wise.

    2. Nephilium

      The girlfriend does that as well.

      Or she’ll grab her phone and start pulling up the Wikipedia page on a show/movie after she’s 10-15 minutes in.

    3. straffinrun

      My wife waits until after the movie to ask questions. WTF were you doing DURING the movie?

    4. Chipwooder

      * standing ovation*

    5. AlmightyJB

      My wife gets annoyed at me for always predicting everything that’s going to happen. Can’t help it all these plots are so predictable. It’s refreshing when something surprises me.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Also,I make fun of her shoes so have to leave when they’re on. Not that I want to watch them anyways.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Her Shows. Lol.

          1. It was funnier as ‘shoes’.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Agreed:)

      2. STEVE SMITH HAVE EXTRA LARGE SURPRISE FOR YOU. GO TO 100 CASCADIA ROAD, CASCADIA TO GET IT.

      3. Rhywun

        Huh, I didn’t know I was your wife.

    6. WTF

      Holy shit, that’s my wife. Constantly asking questions about the movie during the movie, and my answer is always “Just watch the movie and we’ll find out, you know as much as I do at this point.”

    7. A friend of mine had a great response: “If you watch, the movie will tell you what happens. It’s called a ‘story’.”

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Your friend likes sleeping on the couch?

    8. B.P.

      Fake news. There is no Sandusky, Colorado.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    I have been watching The Boys. I have to say, the incessant “evul kkkorporate manipulation” aspect is really grinding on me.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      You may be overly sensitive. They baddies aren’t just simple right-wing tropes. They are producers of every trope. Did you get to the part where the Deep is filming his commercial?

      They don’t represent the right wing. They represent corruption of everything. They put out right-wing Fox news talking points. They put out left-wing CNN talking points. The corrupt religious revivalism. They corrupt athletics. They corrupt an asshole-but-surprisingly honest congress critter when their normal crony capitalism isn’t working.

  61. The Late P Brooks

    ps- Elizabeth Shue is holding up pretty well, for a woman of such an advanced age.

  62. pistoffnick

    San Francisco renames “convicted felon” to “justice involved person”

    https://freebeacon.com/blog/san-francisco-crime/

    Related For Tundra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMRUszqMVM8

    1. pistoffnick

      Dammit. Already posted.

      Did you guys know that Walmart is suing Tesla?

      1. Something about rectal weed and gun control, I think.

    2. Tundra

      Nice. I always tell people they named that album after me.

    3. Chipwooder

      Didn’t the Obama administration do something like that?

  63. Rasilio

    Glibs Fantasy Football (the real thing, not that pansie euro crap)

    https://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/1032574

  64. KSuellington

    The story of the “child” getting shot by the Chicago concealed carry holder reminds me of an incident I had in Brazil twenty years ago. I was walking on the beach front in Rio fairly late at nite and we had just bought a beer off a vendor. All of a sudden we had an actual group of kids confronting us, they looked to me between 9 and 11 years old. These were feral street kids and they encircled us. It was pretty dark on that stretch and we couldn’t see if they had any weapons. The beers got knocked out fo our hands and we had their hands grabbing for our pockets while we pushed them off. It was starting to get to the point where we were going to get into a full on brawl with these kids and they looked like they were up for it. In the only moment in my life where they polícia showed up at the right time, a police van showed up and three cops grabbed a couple of them while the rest ran. They got tossed in the back. Who knows what happened to them. That was among my more scary experiences in three years in South America.

    1. Suthenboy

      You walked on the beach at night in Brazil?

      *facepalm*

  65. PieInTheSky

    WHY ARE THERE AFTERNOON LINKS I AM CONFUSED

    1. Fatty Bolger

      It’s afternoon somewhere.

      1. PieInTheSky

        looks at laptop 17 55 …. dunno is that evening yet?

        1. I think you have a defective clock.

          Must be all those metric numbers you’ve been feeding it.

  66. Rasilio

    Anyone wanna go meet their favorite alt right youtubers?

    https://irl.minds.com/new-jersey

    Lineup includes

    Sargon
    ShoeonHead
    Tim Pool
    Count Dankula
    Roaming Millenial

    1. So where are the alt-righters?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Spencer’s mom told him he had to clean his room and couldn’t come.

      2. wdalasio

        Anyone who isn’t part of the socialist hive mind is an alt righter.

        YouTube and Twitter told me so.

    2. leon

      Shoe on head is alt-right?

      1. Jarflax

        Shoe on head is a Bernie fan. She is far left. She is just the only lefty other than Greenwald who retains intellectual honesty.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        alt-right means “doesn’t agree with everything I say”

    3. straffinrun

      Tim Pool would spend all his time telling you how he’s axchully a lefty. No thanks.

    4. PieInTheSky

      Roaming Millenial is probably closest to alt right and still would

      1. Holy would, Batman.

    5. Not Adahn

      Over/Under on the numbers of bomb threats and fire alarm pulls?

      1. Rasilio

        The venue has already canceled the event over just that. They are working on alternate plans

    6. Egads, I can only think of the sea of tiki torches there!

  67. The Late P Brooks

    Ken White, at the Atlantic

    So when you smugly drop “You can’t shout ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater” in a First Amendment debate, you’re misquoting an empty rhetorical device uttered by a career totalitarian in a long-overturned case about jailing draft protesters. This is not persuasive or helpful.

    ——

    It’s common, in free-speech debates, to find people arguing that America must balance free speech and safety, or free speech and the right to be free of abuse. A related rhetorical trope is “line drawing:” the idea that we must draw lines between free speech and abusive speech.

    In point of fact, however, American courts don’t balance the benefits and harms of speech to decide whether it is protected—they look to whether that speech falls into the First Amendment exceptions noted above. As the Supreme Court recently explained, the “First Amendment’s guarantee of free speech does not extend only to categories of speech that survive an ad hoc balancing of relative social costs and benefits. The First Amendment itself reflects a judgment by the American people that the benefits of its restrictions on the Government outweigh the costs. Our Constitution forecloses any attempt to revise that judgment simply on the basis that some speech is not worth it.”

    ——

    Many other countries allow substantially broader limits on free speech.That’s relevant to what the law in America should be, but it has nothing to do with what the law is.

    “What the law should be”? And he was doing so well.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I liked the title of his blog better

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Christ, what a letdown at the end there.

      1. B.P.

        At least he recognizes the law for what it is, instead of the common tactic of squinting really hard at the text and interpreting it into something it isn’t.

    3. AlexinCT

      Leftists are all for free speech as long as that speech is speech the left approves on. Everyone opposed to the left however should just shut their fucking trap up if they know what’s good for them…

    4. Fatty Bolger

      There is an admirable growing social consensus that it’s despicable to denigrate people based on ethnicity, religion, or sexuality.

      Well… unless they’re white, Christian, or straight. Then it’s perfectly OK. Encouraged, even.

      1. leon

        Sure. But they makes no more sense to enforce than vegetarianism.

      2. R C Dean

        There is an admirable growing social consensus that it’s despicable to denigrate people based on ethnicity, religion, or sexuality.

        I think that’s been the social consensus for quite some time. The fact that enforcement of it in certain cases and environments has escalated to absurd levels doesn’t make it more of a consensus.

        And, of course “growing social consensus” =/= “its perfectly OK to bring the jackboot down on wrongthinkers”.

        1. “All in the Family” was pretty much based on the increasing taboo against expressing prejudice. In the 70s. But Ken doesn’t get to stand on his SJW soapbox unless he implies that this is a new thing that’s happening in juxtaposition with that notorious bigot in the White House and the increasing* threat** of white supremacy.

          *to the extent there are more white supremacists we’re talking maybe a few more booths at Denny’s, and that likely because the definition has become more, um, generous, let’s say

          **you’re more likely to be bitten by a squirrel than attacked by a white supremacist

        2. AlexinCT

          I think that’s been the social consensus for quite some time. The fact that enforcement of it in certain cases and environments has escalated to absurd levels doesn’t make it more of a consensus.

          I a more concerned that the enforcers always seem to only enforce it to the benefit of one political group, then abandoning the whole thing when it boomerangs on them.

          How is that #Metoo movement going these days, since practically all the culprits ended up being leftist posers/virtue signalers?

    5. Not Adahn

      And he was doing so well.

      Not for years. And his blog just banned the one guy who called him out on his strawmanning bullshit.

    6. Fuck Ken White. I used to really respect his opinion. I don’t know what happened, or if maybe, like a lot of people, when their boy was in office they felt like it was safe to cosplay as a classical liberal or even a libertarian, but these days I don’t see a hell of a lot of difference between him and, say, Krugman. Or Sadbeard, pretty often.

      1. Chipwooder

        Yep. Turned into a total cunt, another one driven insane by Trump.

        1. Not Adahn

          I think it started earlier than that. He started getting fixated on various kulturkampf figures prior to the election.

          With the notable exception of Iowahawk, there seems to be a direct relation to how much time a person spends on twitter and the magnitude of their insufferable twattishness.

    7. PieInTheSky

      On the Atlantic tweet for this article there is an English woman bragging about not having a constitution and 1A right… What is wrong with this world?

  68. The Late P Brooks

    And-

    Commentators asserting that certain speech is outside First Amendment protections often cite professors and litigators who agree with them. This is entertaining, but it may not yield reliable information.

    With the greatest respect, though, legal academics are notoriously bad at distinguishing between normative and descriptive statements about law. If I ask 10 physics professors what will happen if I drop my pencil and why, they will all say: “It will fall, because of gravity.” There is very little risk that they will say “Well, maybe it will fall or maybe it won’t” because they think gravity is unfair. But if I put 10 law or political-science professors on TV and ask them whether particular speech is protected by the First Amendment, there is a substantial chance that some of them will give responses based on what they think the law ought to be, not based on what it is.

    Unfortunately, we seem to have arrived at a place where 10 sitting judges, upon hearing the same set of facts arguments, are likely to deliver multiple conflicting rulings based more on predisposition than on law.

    1. Not Adahn

      Yeah, the idea that the law has a fixed meaning was pretty much demolished a loooong time ago. I have no idea why he clings to that para-religious viewpoint. Someone should ask him about the definition of “Interstare Commerce.”

      1. Is that where you have to deal with multiple swiss firms?

  69. PieInTheSky

    Question: Why are there no bets in bitcoin about the next Dem candidate to drop out? I thought this was a libertarian website

  70. PieInTheSky

    this is also on the atlantic

    How Life Became an Endless, Terrible Competition

    Meritocracy prizes achievement above all else, making everyone—even the rich—miserable. Maybe there’s a way out.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/09/meritocracys-miserable-winners/594760/

    it is quite silly

    not that I am a fan of the whole Meritocracy thing

    1. Maybe if we actually gave meritocracy a try.

      1. AlexinCT

        HAH HAH HAH!

        What? Expecting those that claim expertise and/or the right to rule will actually be held accountable?

        You must be crazy, dude!

        1. You must be crazy, dude!

          I still live in New York.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The actual way out of misery and envy is called stoicism. Their way out is called poverty for all.

    3. PieInTheSky

      How can that be done? For one thing, education—whose benefits are concentrated in the extravagantly trained children of rich parents—must become open and inclusive. Private schools and universities should lose their tax-exempt status unless at least half of their students come from families in the bottom two-thirds of the income distribution. And public subsidies should encourage schools to meet this requirement by expanding enrollment.

      Read: Why the myth of meritocracy hurts kids of color

      A parallel policy agenda must reform work, by favoring goods and services produced by workers who do not have elaborate training or fancy degrees. For example, the health-care system should emphasize public health, preventive care, and other measures that can be overseen primarily by nurse practitioners, rather than high-tech treatments that require specialist doctors. The legal system should deploy “legal technicians”—not all of whom would need to have a J.D.—to manage routine matters, such as real-estate transactions, simple wills, and even uncontested divorces. In finance, regulations that limit exotic financial engineering and favor small local and regional banks can shift jobs to mid-skilled workers. And management should embrace practices that distribute control beyond the C-suite, to empower everyone else in the firm.

      this is all meaningless bullshit. Really. Sounds good but it is mostly subjective unenforceable crap

      1. leon

        This guy must be a fucking genius, on the level the world has never seen to know how to better operate not just education, but also banking, finance, healthcare, law…

    4. PieInTheSky

      In the 1920s and ’30s, the U.S. answered the Great Depression by adopting the New Deal framework that would eventually build the mid-century middle class

      I like how opinion is presented like hard fact so easily

      1. In the 1920s and ’30s, the U.S. answered exacerbated the Great Depression by adopting the New Deal framework that would eventually build the mid-century middle late-century welfare class

        FIFT

        1. R C Dean

          You also need to scratch that reference to the 1920s.

          1. Thank you.

            This is why I hire editors for my longer works.

      2. wdalasio

        In the 1920s…the U.S. answered the Great Depression

        And even the facts the opinions rest on are pretty loosey-goosey.

      3. Fatty Bolger

        FFS. The new deal was a complete failure, and near the end of the depression pretty much everybody knew it. Then WWII happened, and things that should not have been forgotten were lost in the rush to lionize FDR as a war hero.

        1. kbolino

          They weren’t so much forgotten as downplayed. FDR is like the country’s Mao, everybody claims to love him but Truman and Eisenhower didn’t hew that closely to FDR’s model.

      4. invisible finger

        No wonder he is against meritocracy – it ignores him because of the sheer ignorance he displays. The political caste and their wannabes eat this shit up though.

    5. PieInTheSky

      I really try to not be in a bubble and read these things but I feel i get dumber with each one. The thing is is after a while, I cannot even say I read with a fully open mind as my mind debunks line after line. So do we read left wing press for new ideas or to confirm to ourselves they are wrong? A conundrum…. But they are wrong in that I never heard a logical well presented argument, not even before I was libertarian. This is why I am really

      1. When the left-wing press starts coming up with new ideas I’ll be happy to read them. Wake me up when white men, plastic straws, and capitalism aren’t responsible for everything wrong in the world.

    6. Tundra

      Competition gives life meaning. The discipline and yes, failures, are fucking crucial.

      These zero-sum-game losers are tiresome and annoying.

      1. invisible finger

        They think they can have upward mobility without downward mobility. Complete ignorance of how anything in the world works. All they know is their own safe little bureaucratic bubble and delude themselves into thinking they must be accomplishing something because their job is safe.

    7. wdalasio

      not that I am a fan of the whole Meritocracy thing

      The problem is that Meritocracy was never what it sounded like. From the term, you’d think it would be a system where individual merit was constantly monitored and rewarded. That’s not what the people who originally coined the term had in mind. For them, merit was something that was established through schooling, something established at the outset of one’s career. But, there was never a premise that merit would be monitored on an ongoing basis. In practice, this amounts to credentialism or something approaching the old Chinese bureaucracy.

      1. The Other Kevin

        Yes, credentialism. Some of this sounds to me like barriers to entry. Recently I heard that in the past, you didn’t have to go to law school to be a lawyer. If you could pass a bar exam, you could practice law. Now you have to go to an accredited school before you can take the exam.

        It has been proven that going to an “elite” school doesn’t make you smarter or better at your job. However, certain jobs in finance, politics, and science are still only available to people with one of those “elite” degrees. For example, you’re not going to be a clerk at the Supreme Court unless you went to a certain school.

        1. Lawyers should be barred from being judges.

        2. Chipwooder

          If I’m not mistaken, law schools weren’t all that common until the 20th century. Most lawyers entered the trade by apprenticing with a practicing lawyer to learn the law.

          1. R C Dean

            In some states, I think you can still apprentice before taking the bar rather than going to law school. I’ve never heard of anyone actually going that route, which is kind of odd. Save on tuition, work as a paralegal. It may be that there are some requirements on the master that make lawyers not want to have apprentices, dunno.

          2. Chipwooder

            Shit, I would have done that. I ended up not going to law school for a variety of reasons, but the biggest was a fear that I would get two years into it, hate it, but feel compelled to continue due to the investment of time and money already made. One lawyer I know is basically that guy – hates his job, has pretty much always hated his job, but went through with it because he had borrowed so much to do it.

          3. invisible finger

            NAL, but am related to some. Seems to me the law has become so complex that the smaller firms have to specialize and a paralegal can’t really learn enough working for them to have any confidence at taking the exam. My late brother in law had a small practice that did a variety of things – real estate, trusts, divorce, misdemeanors, civil litigation, etc. – but he eventually pared down to just real estate/estate planning because those got more complicated and he had plenty of work, plus he felt like he couldn’t keep up in the other areas enough without taking on more partners which then puts him in the position of spending more time managing than actually doing law work.

          4. kbolino

            The decline of apprenticeships can largely be traced to policies that make it a lot harder to enforce contractual terms of employment and penalize any standards that don’t pass an arbitrary, convoluted set of court-invented rules. Nowadays, taking on an apprentice is a huge risk. Offloading that risk to unrelated others (schools) is a logical response to the incentives.

      2. PieInTheSky

        you’d think it would be a system where individual merit was constantly monitored and rewarded. – even so… I don’t support meritocracy cause I support liberty. No more is needed. I don;t need no one rewarding my merit. Just let me be and let the market work.

    8. Rasilio

      I didn’t used to think it was possible but this guy may just be dumber than Krugman.

      “See this list of things that are antithetical to meritocracy? They prove that meritocracy is bad”.

      Ivys admitting legacy students – by definition not meritocracy – proof that meritocracy is bad
      1%’ers bribing college admissions to get their kids into top schools – by definition not meritocracy – proof that meritocracy is bad.

      1. Akira

        It’s the same thing as when they point to decidedly un-free markets (e.g. healthcare and banking) as evidence that the free market will never work.

    9. A Leap at the Wheel

      Meritocracy is like Democracy – The worst form other than all the other forms. The problem is, if you abandon meritocracy, what are you left with?

      HOW THE MILITARY MURDERS MERITOCRACY

      This is the dog that didn’t bark, which should key us in on a significant part of the problem. We can’t have frank discussions about such enormous flaws out of fear of reputational reprisal that threatens professional standing. It says a lot that “Col. Ned Stark” was authorized anonymity by the editors at War on the Rocks (something they only grant in the “rarest of cases”) out of concern his career “would be at serious risk.” Speak publicly about how crummy the system is—and prepare to be excommunicated.

      Which gets us to the real problem: we’re not talking about these problems openly. Soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines self-silence legitimate criticism because they fear swift and painful blowback. But it’s not like we don’t know they exist—anyone in uniform for even a little while knows several others with terrible tales to tell.

      My West Point roommate earned a Gates Fellowship to Cambridge University for a master’s degree in electrical engineering after we graduated in 2002. However, after he finished in the UK, instead of sending this exceptionally talented engineer officer to a line unit early in the Iraq War—where we could’ve used someone that knew so much about, say, electrical engineering in Baghdad—we sent him to be a basic training executive officer. He served out this slump and couldn’t wait to tear off his uniform because he wasn’t given challenges to match his gifts. (And, yes, of course, we do need talented trainers at our military schoolhouses, but without question, his skill set would have saved lives at war.)

      Or, there’s another Air Force colleague that was selected for early retirement while in the final stages of a PhD program (among several others). Setting aside particulars, the idea that the Air Force would select and invest in someone’s advanced education, and then eject that person from continued service just prior to earning a doctorate, is stunning. I’m told that a senior leader in the service heard about this happening and moved to prevent future instances—a laudable act, but one only necessary because the system allows such instances in the first place.

      Both are now handsomely compensated outside the US government.

      I could go on, unfortunately, because these aren’t just single stories.

      It’s the system, one in which the three horsemen of meritocracy’s apocalypse (bureaucracy, rankism, and personal bias) roam free, mostly at night.

      It’s under cover of that darkness that the rot in the system manifests in subtle ways. In a healthy meritocratic system, there would be a relatively free flow of honest feedback that enables the best idea, or the best person, to succeed—in respectful ways that improve organizational effectiveness

      . But that’s not the norm, as can be seen on any given day in any American military unit.

      It’s the higher-ranking individual that ignores or denies or evades real problems flagged by a junior officer or noncommissioned officer. It’s the indirect, I-agree-with-you-completely-but-we-can’t-do-that-because-it-just-might-upset-someone-higher-up-the-chain conversation. It’s a subordinate’s quietly paralytic fear of confrontation with a senior.

      Nobody talks about it, but it knocks military candor down at every turn, making us weaker all the time. Sometimes the emperor you serve isn’t wearing socks, or much of anything else, and as things stand in the US military, saying something about that nudity is so severely stifled it’s a wonder it ever happens. And our adversaries may be far from perfect, but they can certainly find the vulnerable chinks exposed by an emperor’s nudity.

      Big, brittle systems with such weaknesses always get exploited. It’s a “when,” not an “if.”

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        I’m just a complete fuck head at tags. Preview when?

        1. MikeS

          Eyepiece has it

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Huh. Not working for me. need to figure out why…

      2. leon

        If the army was smaller they could afford to pay personell more and keep them interested.

      3. kbolino

        This problem is endemic to government and large corporations, not just the military. You are penalized more for pointing out that a problem exists than for pretending it doesn’t. Causal chains are ignored in favor of simple explanations, higher-order effects are ignored in favor of line items on the budget, and metrics are collected and optimized for without any understanding of what they actually mean and how to contextualize them.

        The blame for this sometimes gets laid at the feet of “MBA” or “management” culture, wherein professional managers (people who do management for a living) are replacing experienced professionals (people who do the business of the organization for a living) as decision makers, but I think that is symptomatic rather than causal. Management is a valid discipline unto itself, although it is certainly not a replacement for business knowledge.

        It sometimes also gets laid at the feet of “diversity” and “inclusion” culture, too. While I think that such emphasis does not generally improve anything, and at times is taken to absurd levels that become causal of specific problems, I don’t think it’s the root cause. Organizations have always had incompetents in their ranks, hiring incompetent people based on identity groups instead of some other factor doesn’t change that, although it may shift the proportion of competent to incompetent people.

        Instead, I think the real problem is one of incentives. Appearance is valued over results, and stability is valued over competence. Personally, I think the root cause is that the modern U.S. economy is geared towards being a caretaker of the least productive. The primary investors in major corporations are retirement funds, the federal workforce (gov’t, military, and contractor) is just counting down the days til they retire, banks are there to ensure you can spend your money today instead of saving it for tomorrow, municipal budgets are getting dominated by legacy workforce expenses, unions protect seniority instead of ability, etc.

        1. invisible finger

          Well put, kbolino

    10. Suthenboy

      “How Life Became an Endless, Terrible Competition”

      The Universe?

      “Meritocracy…”

      Survival of the fittest?

      Wow, this is easy.

  71. MikeS

    Concerning Survey Finds Too Many People Believe Snopes Is A Legitimate Fact-Checking Website

    The survey found that over 60% of people believe Snopes is a real website, while only 25% understand that it’s satire. The remaining minority thinks that Snopes is the name of a gangsta rapper from California, “one of those guys who makes the hip-hop about the devil’s lettuce and shooting people.”

    1. Akira

      Haha, nice. It’s awesome to see the Bee hitting back hard.

    2. AlexinCT

      Stupid is as stupid does.

  72. The Late P Brooks

    Save us, Bernie!

    Mr. Sanders was an early supporter of the Green New Deal, an ambitious but nonbinding congressional plan for tackling global warming and economic inequality. He is bestowing that same name upon his new plan, which calls for the United States to eliminate fossil fuel use by 2050.

    It declares climate change a national emergency; envisions building new solar, wind and geothermal power sources across the country; and commits $200 billion to help poor nations cope with climate change.

    Mr. Sanders said in an interview Wednesday night that his proposal would “pay for itself” over 15 years and create 20 million jobs in the process.

    ——

    Mr. Sanders’s plan would be funded in part by imposing new fees and taxes on the fossil fuel industry. He described the proposal as putting “meat on the bones” of the Green New Deal resolution and laying the groundwork for a rapid energy transformation.

    “President Trump thinks that climate change is a hoax. President Trump is dangerously, dangerously wrong. Climate change is an existential threat to the entire country and the entire world and we must be extraordinarily aggressive,” Mr. Sanders said.

    “I have seven grandchildren, and I’m going to be damned if I’m going to leave them a planet that is unhealthy and uninhabitable,” he added.

    I’ll save the planet if it takes every nickel you have!

    1. Tundra

      Priceless.

      1. AlexinCT

        Once you go woke, you are assured to go broke…

    2. wdalasio

      Yeah, too bad they lost me. I discovered I can get a better shave cheaper.

      At this point, P&G should probably sell Gillette to Harry’s or Dollar Shave Club. The brand isn’t coming back.

      1. AlexinCT

        I sure as hell hope that is the case, Bill. Nothing will be more effective at stopping these cunts from doing this virtue signaling shit like their pocketbooks being hit hard.

        1. wdalasio

          I don’t think Gillette is coming back. At least not to where they used to be. The Sensor was a game changer for them as it completely differentiated their product from anything else on the market. And that let them command a major premium. But, they don’t have a game changer like that in the pipeline, at least as far as I know. All they’ve got is a razor that will heat up. For $200. And meanwhile, companies like Harry’s or Dollar Shave Club have made clear to consumers that they can get essentially the same product a lot cheaper. Then they turn around and insult their core market.

      2. I think they made their last good razor in the 30s. https://www.razoremporium.com/1930s-gillette-new-short-comb-ball-end-replica-handle-with-revamped-head-double-edge-safety-razor/ Merkur, a German company, makes a good version that’s about $20 cheaper.

        Luckily for me I look best with anything between a couple days of growth and about half an inch, so electric clippers are all I need.

      3. Sensei

        I’m not going to stop using every P&G product, but I stopped using Gillette as well. Maybe they and other companies will get the point.

    3. leon

      “they claim to have no regrets.”

      1. AlexinCT

        That’s like a hiker saying they had no regrets they wandered into STEVE SMITH’s woods and got ass raped a time or a dozen all so they can cover up the butthurt….

  73. The Late P Brooks

    Though the Vermont lawmaker was an early proponent of a carbon tax — he once called it “the most straightforward and efficient strategy for quickly reducing greenhouse gas emissions” — his new proposal makes no mention of one.

    Instead, he calls for converting the electricity and transportation sectors to 100 percent renewable energy by 2030 and achieving “complete decarbonization” by 2050 through a massive spending plan.

    Robert C. Hockett, a Cornell University law professor who has advised Mr. Sanders on climate change policy, said the country now needs more than just a carbon tax. Tackling climate change, he said, demands a vast overhaul of United States infrastructure and manufacturing. He said Mr. Sanders’s plan, and its substantial price tag, reflected that.

    Think big. Go long. Throw the Hail Mary.

    1. Not Adahn

      Well, if a law prof says something is good…

    2. R C Dean

      converting the electricity and transportation sectors to 100 percent renewable energy by 2030

      Something that is literally physically impossible to do. What a complete and utter idiot.

      1. invisible finger

        Rickshaws are renewable. Extremely inefficient, but renewable as long as the population doesn’t drop. And there’s always the option of giving women an extra $30 of fiat money a month to become brood mares for the state.

      2. Rhywun

        C’mon, think big and give the country the radical restructuring of the economy it’s clamoring for.

        1. kbolino

          It’s amazing how many of the “solutions” to poverty involve making a whole lot more of it.

      3. kbolino

        It is absolutely possible. Trivial, even.

        First, you simply destroy everything. Then, of the nothing left, you have 100% of it meeting your goals. Voila!

    3. Fatty Bolger

      And then I suppose we’ll need socialism to step in and save us from all the unexpected poverty this created, hmmm?

  74. The Late P Brooks

    The Sanders plan calls for a moratorium on nuclear power plant license renewals, and it says that the goal of 100 percent sustainable energy “will not rely on any false solutions like nuclear, geoengineering, carbon capture and sequestration, or trash incinerators.”

    Totally serious.

    1. AlexinCT

      PEOPLE ARE GONNA DIE IF WE DON’T FORCE ALL OF US BACK INTO CAVES!

    2. invisible finger

      There is good nuclear science reasoning to stop license renewals but I’m sure the plan calls for a moratorium on granting licenses for new construction as well.

      Part of the reason nuclear plants ask for license renewals is the state putting price controls on the produced energy (usually AFTER the construction.) Every time price controls are enacted – regardless of industry – capital expenditure plummets; and this is true of the public sector as well as the private sector. If you can’t generate the income to support building a new plant (and if the state doesn’t allow new construction) then asking for an extension is the only way to meet the (price-control-inflated) demand and more often than not it’s the state pushing for the extension because the office holders are scared shitless what will happen to them once blackouts start happening. They can start a PR campaign about evul capitalists, but the truth eventually comes out.

    3. 0x90

      Can you really get to be 1000 years old like bernie, and not have heard “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good“?

      1. By not working a real job in his life?

  75. The Late P Brooks

    The Constitution is just a fucking piece of paper

    March for Our Lives had already called for universal background checks but the new proposal is more comprehensive than their previous list of demands.

    In addition to background checks, the group is now calling for a multi-step approval process for gun ownership that includes “in-person interviews, personal references, rigorous gun safety training, and a waiting period of 10 days for each gun purchase.”

    It also looks to impose much stricter limits on purchases by raising the minimum age for gun possession to 21 and limiting Americans to one firearm purchase per month. It’s unclear how the plan will be implemented as that purchase limit would seem to preclude its other goal of imposing higher fees on bulk firearm purchases.

    These fees, along with annual fees for firearm licenses, would be directed toward addressing gun violence. The plan also called for a national licensing and registry system. Although an exact figure is impossible to pin down, researchers believe that there are more guns that people in the United States.

    ——

    The Parkland students’ plan also echoed 2020 Democrats’ in that it called for substantial executive action, including a mandatory buy-back program for assault weapons and creating programs to “encourage voluntary civilian reduction of handguns and other firearms.”

    It also urged the Justice Department to reconsider a landmark Supreme Court decision, District of Columbia v. Heller, which held the Second Amendment protected the right to bear arms — an in particular, the right to own a handgun.

    Maybe they should suggest centralizing all gun sales in a single store in the capitol, and require anyone who wants a gun to travel there in person to plead their case. That’s how they do it in Mexico, and gun violence is completely unheard of, there.

    1. R C Dean

      I’ve gotten pretty good about just keeping my mouth shut when people say incredibly stupid things about politics, gun control, etc. in my presence. But my self-control is really starting wear thin.

    2. 0x90

      Or, you know, how about just getting rid of guns altogether???!!!??

      It only makes sense.

    3. Sean

      It also urged the Justice Department to reconsider a landmark Supreme Court decision, District of Columbia v. Heller, which held the Second Amendment protected the right to bear arms — an in particular, the right to own a handgun.

      Say what now?

      1. leon

        Relitigate a case?

      2. leon

        Do they think the SCOTUS works for the justice department? That makes no sense

        1. Rebel Scum

          That makes no sense

          Every proposal there makes no sense and is not remotely legal, constitutionally speaking. Even if it was I see nothing that would reduce crime.

    4. Rhywun

      These fees, along with annual fees for firearm licenses, would be directed toward addressing gun violence.

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA good one

      1. Fatty Bolger

        Yeah, that’s rich. Now pull the other one!

      2. kbolino

        Everything boils down to forcibly extracted money handed over to cronies.

    5. How about…no?

      1. Also they keep saying this “buyback” nonsense. Just stop being pansies and call it for what it is, “compensated confiscation”. At least you’ll be slightly more honest.

        1. R C Dean

          As for me, I am perfectly willing to sell the government all the guns I got from them.

          1. Not a big fan of the CMP?

          2. R C Dean

            Big fan. Just never bought any guns from the government. And, if you bought guns from the CMP, you didn’t buy them from the government, either. The CMP is a private organization.

          3. I was about to sell some, but I lost them all in an unfortunate boating accident.

    6. Chipwooder

      F
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      1. Chipwooder

        well, that clever idea of mine worked beautifully

    7. Raston Bot

      that reminds me: gotta get some more ammo

      1. Sean

        Federal has their rebates going through September.

  76. CPRM

    Did you guys hear that a bag of drugs fell out of Lou Reed’s ass while he was having sex with an 85 year old woman who sued Tesla?

    1. MikeS

      Yeah, and Trump’s impeachment proceeding was on the TV.

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      You got a link?

    3. Fatty Bolger

      Isn’t that the plot of Animal Farm?

  77. R C Dean

    The “Afternoon” “Links” post is now gone. Sad!

    1. *Sniffles*

      I was in the middle of ranting about natural being conflated with healthy too.

      1. Urthona

        Cocaine is natural.

        1. My examples were Tetrodotoxin and hydrogen sulphide.

          1. Urthona

            Not nearly as much fun to snort.

        2. A Leap at the Wheel

          So are apricot pits.

        3. MikeS

          My farts, too.

          1. AlexinCT

            Wouldn’t that be everyone/everything’s farts?

          2. MikeS

            Collectivist!

      2. Sean

        Awwww. I missed it.

        1. Everyone will, I hit post after the page was taken down and the comment was lost.

    2. What “Afternoon Links” are you talking about, Comrade Dean?

      *looks over shoulder warily*

      1. R C Dean

        Why, none at all, since it wasn’t afternoon and there were no links.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          We have always been at war with Eastasia.

  78. Urthona

    I hope my comments on the Afternoon Links are still there and simply travel forward into the future.

    1. Jarflax

      Maybe they will be preserved by adding salt and vinegar to prevent bacteria from consuming them?

      1. MikeS

        Then we’d all be in a pickle!

        1. Fatty Bolger

          I wish they’d quit gerkin us around.

          1. This is not the dill to die on.

          2. sk

            But it’s our bread and butter.

          3. Doesn’t seem kosher, though.

          4. leon

            Hallal you stop making these puns?

  79. The Late P Brooks

    I was in the middle of ranting about natural being conflated with healthy too.

    I only buy inorganic bananas.

    1. They keep longer, that’s for sure.

    2. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Is that a euphemism for dildo?

    3. leon

      Interesting. Brooks is into tranny hookers.

  80. The Late P Brooks

    You people are sick.

    Sick and wrong.

    1. What happened this time, Brooksie?

    2. Dr. Fronkensteen

      We wouldn’t be here on Glibertarians if we were not.