Wednesday Afternoon Links

I’m happier’n a camel on Hump Day. Mostly because my wife and I are actually going to have an adult dinner out somewhere. That will be great. Imagine, talking with your partner about shit other than the next thing on the to-do list.

So you run a company that spends 11 months a year producing product that sells out in six weeks, and you can’t stay in business? Was your entire upper management peopled by former government managers?

What city government WOULDN’T want a Nigerian Prince on their vendor list? Way to go DC!

I won’t pretend this didn’t give me a good laugh.

I was having an interesting conversation with a lawyer friend about how people under 35 or so seem to be willing to forego specialized services that people over 35 think are just the cost of doing business. His story involved a young entrepreneur walking away from a million-dollar partnership rather than pay a $5000 retainer. Like, not only did the guy not use my friend’s services, he just walked away with whatever his partner offered him, which was not an even split. Here’s one about a similar age-cohort foregoing doctors. I don’t want to overstate the case — young people of many generations have foregone doctors because if you’re 25 and typically healthy you don’t absolutely need one. However, I would be interested to hear other people’s take on this because I do kind of feel like there’s a kernel of insight there. Can apps + The Interwebs really reduce the bullshit and optimize your time spent on such things to approximately zero, or not? Is this just being young and not at all generational? I’m not strongly one one side or the other and beg the wisdom and insight of the Glibertariat.

 

The only doctor any millenial needs.

 

Comments

625 responses to “Wednesday Afternoon Links”

  1. Tres Cool

    You know Joe Camel’s face is a subliminal phallus, right?
    There’s your masculinity.

    1. Tres Cool

      Go ahead…..HIT IT

      1. Bobarian LMD

        If it’s subliminal, I don’t think you’re supposed to notice that he looks like a cock.

    2. Suthenboy

      So camels are just assemblages of human sex organs from head to toe.

      *snicker*

    3. blackjack

      That’s why it’s called “hump day”

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    His story involved a young entrepreneur walking away from a million-dollar partnership rather than pay a $5000 retainer.

    Fools are born every day. Like it or not, businesses require legal advice for contractual reasons alone. Not everything can be done via mobile app.

    1. AlexinCT

      The younger generations sure would love that to be the way the world worked…

    2. mr simple

      If I have to talk to an actual person, I’d just rather not bother. /s

  3. Juvenile Bluster

    The leader of the Venezuelan opposition has declared himself President. Trump and the Organization of American States have recognized him as Venezuela’s President. This is good.

    However, we know what’s going to happen to him, and I fear Trump is dumb enough to do something military-wise in response. That would be not good. Doubleplusungood.

    1. kinnath

      Maybe the guys exiting Syria can just stop by for a short visit.

    2. Tonio

      And the progs are already fuming about this, but they never say why the recognition is a bad thing.

      Will be good to see their noses rubbed in it.

      1. Suthenboy

        They have spent the last 20 years cheering on the Bolivarian Revolution. We point to the disaster it has become thinking they will concede that it is a disaster because we are fools. Things turned out there just exactly the way they hoped they would. Of course they are upset the game is going to be up soon.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          “The revolution would have worked if it hadn’t been for you and those meddling Catholic school teens!”

          1. Tonio

            [golf clap]

        2. prolefeed

          “Things turned out there just exactly the way they hoped they would.”

          Nah, they expected prosperity and fairness, and were surprised by the poverty and societal collapse. Their intentions were good. Bad things should only happen to mean people who have bad intentions.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            It’s all because Chavez died and Maduro fucked it up!

          2. mr simple

            They obviously weren’t true socialists.

          3. R C Dean

            Oddly, they never stop to think that a system that only works if exactly the right Top Man is running it, may not be a very good system after all.

          4. C. Anacreon

            Truly excellent point.

        3. Michael

          Progville’s population is divided into two distinct groups. One group are true believers in the sense that they know perfectly well that their policies and proscriptions lead to poverty, misery and death. To them, this is the end goal because it reflects their idea of fairness. These people are sociopaths. The other group are true believers in the sense that they are convinced that mandated equality leads only to lasting peace and prosperity for everyone. They also willingly spend five dollars per carton of “cruelty-free” eggs and seek out friendships based on victimhood status. These people are fucking idiots.

      2. Playa Manhattan

        Because Trump did it.

        If Trump cured cancer, they’d hand out Agent Orange lollipops.

    3. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      “However, we know what’s going to happen to him, and I fear Trump is dumb enough to do something military-wise in response.”

      I good way to avoid that is to not involve yourself in Venezuela’s politics.

      I’d be more worried about Bolton and others in his administration than Trump. Trump’s first instinct seems to be to not want to get involved in other parts of the world. Hence his order to withdraw from Syria and Afghanistan, despite the recommendations of his advisers.

    4. Pan Zagloba

      When you have united Trump with PM Zoolander…

    5. Rufus the Monocled

      He should drop MAGA hats and t-shirts from the skies.

    6. Gadfly

      However, we know what’s going to happen to him, and I fear Trump is dumb enough to do something military-wise in response.

      There’s a chance he’ll survive. Given Venezuela has something like 10 million percent inflation with no end in sight, I can’t imagine Maduro is able to provide good salaries to his army. An army marches on its stomach, as the saying goes, and they might be hungry for change.

  4. Yusef drives a Kia

    Yucky candy anyway

    1. Nephilium

      Several years back, Despair.com sold Bittersweets, candy hearts with more depressing or accurate messages on them. Such as:

      DOG IS CUTER • RETURN TO PIT • I BEEN CREEPIN • I WANT HALF • HE FIT U FAT • I GOT SOBER • RATHER DRINK • HE HAS A JOB • SHE IS 22!

      They also accurately described the flavors as different types of dust and dirt.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        I got the x-rated ones.

        I’m going to give one a day to my wife.

        Over-under on how long until I get slapped?

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Just make sure you two agree on a safe word, and that kind of thing is fine.

          1. Spudalicious

            I can’t believe she won’t slap him unless he gives her candy. That’s some nasty dominatrix shit.

  5. Chipwooder

    The two also told HR that they were particularly disturbed when Griffith commented in the small Gawker office that it may be difficult to hire writers of color because, in her estimation, people of color prefer to only write serious pieces about race.

    Not a problem at The Root, where their Writers of Color write the most unserious shit imaginable.

    1. Bobarian LMD

      But they think it’s serious,

      1. Count Potato

        Maybe.

  6. Tonio

    Dude, what did you do with the formatting? The title and author don’t appear on this page, but do appear on the Glibs main page.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Ahhh, the 80’s, an era of class and style.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Bonus trivia: That’s the movie where Akroyd met and wooed Donna Dixon.

        If you can imagine Akroyd wooing anybody.

        1. Sean

          If you can imagine Akroyd wooing anybody.

          I’d imagine a lot of cocaine would be involved.

        2. Count Potato

          He’s funny, polite, and has money.

    2. Chipwooder

      Young Fran Drescher was so hot

      1. Count Potato

        If I remember, his entire stable was a smokeshow.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I liked the movie.

        Where are The Mods!?!

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder
    4. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”
        1. Spudalicious

          We were in a Mexican restaurant last week. Mexican music playing in the background. All of a sudden I though “wait a minute” and started listening. Yep a Mexican version of “Black Water”.

    5. Tres Cool

      Sounds like someone needs a doctor .

      1. blackjack

        Corpse of a thread, but still here’s the doctor song:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwNOmS78q-o

  7. Tundra

    Why is Nikki Sixx wearing ski goggles?

    1. The Last American Hero

      It’s called Peacocking, and has been quite successful in ensnaring hotties.

      Just ask Mystery.

  8. Pan Zagloba

    I won’t pretend this didn’t give me a good laugh.

    From the article

    In particular, Kosoff—a former colleague and personal friend of this reporter—described to human resources an incident in which Griffith forwarded an unsolicited chain email showing the editorial director’s friends boasting they knew the penis size of a prominent businessman.

    “My one good memory from the…trip (besides meeting carson) is him in a swimsuit,” one of Griffith’s friends wrote, according to a copy of the thread reviewed by The Daily Beast.

    “Hung?” another friend asked.

    “Ha! Omg I feel like that is a question Carson would know :),” Griffith’s friend responded.
    ….
    In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.

    During one of Breslaw’s interviews for the job, Griffith mentioned the snack selection at the office, and noted that she had a snack saved in her pocket.

    “That’s so poor person of me,” she joked.

    Kosoff additionally told HR of an exchange in which Griffith took a dismissive stance towards the recruiting of a writer who identifies as non-binary.

    Good god, people, Mean Girls wasn’t an instructional video! I mean, look at what happened to Lohan!

    1. In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.

      *stares unfocusedly as brain seeps out of ear*

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        When you aren’t actually producing anything of societal value with your time, bull shit training (which has been scientifically shown over and over again to have a null effect or be counterproductive) doesn’t feel like a waste of time.

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Somebody had either obviously never been to diversity training before, or they’re lying about actually going.

        Because there is no such thing as optional diversity training. Optional == canceled for lack of interest.

    2. mr simple

      In a story last week, Splinter reported that Griffith used gay slurs, invoked bizarre racial stereotypes about Asians, and made derogatory comments about celebrities she perceived as overweight.

      I’m imagining something like:

      Goddamn chinks are too busy flying through the treetops.

      I love the Japs; they taste like candy.

  9. Rasilio

    Imagine, talking with your partner about shit other than the next thing on the to-do list.

    I give it 45 minutes – 1 minute for each year that you have been married that you manage to do this before the conversation either inevitably dies or turns to the business of running a household

    1. I made my wife cry at our date night last Sunday. Proud moment for trashy. *rolls eyes*

      1. The Last American Hero

        Wait until she finds out you were cribbing lines from “This is Us.” They don’t build a doghouse that big.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Yo dog, he just called you fat. You gunna let him get away with that?

          1. Dammit, I already dropped my last pair of gloves over the licorice abomination.

            *pulls handkerchief from pocket and grasps one corner *

  10. I’m not strongly one one side or the other and beg the wisdom and insight of the Glibertariat.

    I’m reminded of the first time I filed taxes at age 15. My dad basically said “go figure it out yourself” and I was utterly confused. Eventually I got them done, but mostly that was out of fear of the consequences. I would’ve given up well before that if it wasn’t legally mandated.

    I get the sense that there is a whole lot of failure to launch going on in my cohort. There are 60%+ of millennials who are normal responsible people. The other 40% are various shades of arrested development. This is what happens when you are still wiping your kid’s ass at age 22.

    1. Nephilium

      Ha! I avoided all of that by just not reproducing. This way I can sit and go senile and blame… what was I talking about?

    2. The Last American Hero

      Part of it may be the continued erosion in faith in institutions and experts.

    3. Tonio

      That probably also started you on your hatred for government – homework, plus shaking you down for your lunch money. Go, Trashy’s dad.

    4. Mojeaux

      Did you do a 1040 EZ? I did my first at 16 and don’t seem to recall having any problems.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        EZs are for poor people.

        1. Mad Scientist

          That describes 99% of 16-year-olds.

        2. Mojeaux

          I was poor when I was 16.

        3. Florida Man

          I started my taxes. The tax cuts had minimal effect on my tax situation since the new standard deduction is only slightly higher than my itemized deductions. I was promised the rich were going to get richer, damn it!

          1. Sean

            Have you tried deducting your bath salt expenses?

          2. Playa Manhattan

            You have to hire a rich guy to do your taxes.

            Are you a partial owner of your business?

      2. I don’t remember, tbh. I just remember having no clue where to even start.

    5. Spudalicious

      The last time I did my taxes I owed the IRS $3k. I then took them to a tax accountant friend and when they were done, that had turned into a $5k refund. I haven’t done my own taxes since.

      1. Mojeaux

        The last time I had an accountant do my taxes, I owed $2k. I said, “This can’t be right.” I went line by line through the 1040, Schedule A, Schedule C instructions with a fine-toothed comb and ended up owing the IRS $2.41. I haven’t used an accountant since.

        1. Spudalicious

          Lol!

        2. I may do that this year. I had a bad experience with the online program (taxslayer) last year, and had to file an amended return.

          Hopefully I can find something to reduce how much we owe this year.

          1. Mojeaux

            I use TurboTax, but I started that way AFTER I thoroughly familiarized myself with each line, what it means, and exactly what can be deducted. I’ve been doing this so long that I order our family’s financial life around it. I overheard someone say “The IRS expects you to take every penny you can find.”

            One year, my husband had a workcomp settlement. It took me a long time to figure out how to account for that.

            Another year, my husband won a bunch of money in the lottery, so it took me a while to figure out which line that went on.

            Then one year, my husband won a car, which we sold back to the dealership, but got a 1099 on. I was super-bummed, but I was bitching to a friend who happened to be a tax lawyer (I forgot about that because I know her as a fan of my work), who said that that year, there was a tax break on energy-efficient vehicles (it was a Prius). So if it hadn’t been for that, we would’ve gotten nailed.

            So yes, I recommend going through the forms line by line and the instructions very slowly and carefully. You will likely never forget it.

        3. Stillhunter

          Why are you still a writer? Can you do my tax return?

          1. Mojeaux

            I am still a writer because I hate doing taxes.

  11. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    Once again, I encourage everyone to look at Rico Soave’s Twitter page. The guy is losing his mind as media outlets continue to push anecdotes that are clearly contradicted by video. He’s getting red pilled so hard right now. It’s hilarious.

    To summarize Soave’s week

    – Kristen Powers called him a “white supremacist apologist”

    – ENB announced on Twitter that she distanced herself from Robby’s piece defending Covington Catholic

    – Journos are saying that he’s leading a “targeted attack” against them for doing the job that they were suppose to have done in the first place

    1. Who wants to extend the invitation for him to come hang out with this motley crew over here?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I don’t want to be the one to put the final in the coffin of his career.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          final nail

          I need an editor

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Great. Fruit sushi recipes and automotive repair articles.

        1. On a positive note, we will have a replacement for GILMORE’s men’s fashion insights.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            And glorious hair.

          2. Rhywun

            What’s left of it. He went with a kind-of frat-boy look on Fox last night. All the generous locks were gone except for that dabbed up thing in the front the kids are all doing.

      3. ChipsnSalsa

        gooble gobble, one of us!

      4. B.P.

        “We’ll teach you how to change a tire.”

        1. Pan Zagloba

          If he continues Chadding up, his tires are going to start changing themselves.

      5. robc

        He has to stop using a certain 3 word phrase.

        1. My nail broke?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            To be sure.

      6. Stinky Wizzleteats

        I think STEVE SMITH would love him.

        1. robodruid

          STEVE SMITH love everybody.
          And by love mean….

      7. Tonio

        I was waiting for someone to say that, Trashy.

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      Wonder if he’ll learn anything from it. I hope so, but I’m not optimistic. He seems like a kid with ok instincts but battered over and over again by toxic social environment.

    3. Rebel Scum

      He’s getting red pilled so hard right now.

      “One of us. One of us. One of us.”

    4. Robby should ask ENB to make him a sammich.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        To her, a sandwich is Virginia Slims and a Coke Zero.

        1. Jarflax

          No it is her, a fifth of gin, two asshole alphas picked up at a bar, a gram of coke, and her husband sitting in the hall asking if she needs anything.

        2. Rhywun

          LOL

    5. bacon-magic

      Bring Robbo here. It is time. *begins Gregorian chant

      1. bacon-magic

        I did it. #sorrynotsorry :

        Robby,
        https://glibertarians.com/2019/01/wednesday-afternoon-links-57/#comment-869639
        Visit us…hey maybe post an article. Some of us miss you, mostly to roast you to be sure. I will pay you in fruit sushi and aqua net.
        Love,
        Bacon-Magic.

        1. But Enough About Me

          That’s a bold strategy, Cotton.

        2. DEG

          That’s funny. I like it.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    That Gawker story is quite the tragedy. Those girls will need counseling and support for years after being through that sort of emotional torment.

  13. robc

    my wife and I are actually going to have an adult dinner out somewhere.

    Tonight is Parent’s Night Out at my daughters “school” (ABA Therapy). They do this about every 6 weeks. It is nice. Free babysitting for 3 hours.

  14. pistoffnick

    Not a millennial, but I didn’t see a doctor for about 6 years after high school graduation. I didn’t see a dentist for 12 years. Didn’t need to.

    Now I wish I didn’t need to.

    1. robc

      I went for about 20 years without seeing an MD. I did see an eye-doctor during that time. I wished I had had an HSA then and had been maxing it out (they weren’t legal at the start of that time frame, IIRC). It would be nice now.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        FWIW, I forgot fricken Baines and Blyleven are in the Hall. Yeeesh.

        You can’t put Baines in and not Kent.

        1. robc

          You can’t put Baines in and not Kent.

          IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.

          If we base future decisions on past mistakes, every mediocre player gets to be in the Hall.

        2. robc

          Blyleven is 96.6 WAR. Baines is 38.7.

          Those don’t belong in the same argument.

          If you want to argue against Blyleven based on peak, fine, but I think if you also consider full career, you can’t keep a guy with 96 WAR out of the hall.

          Baines best year is 4.3. He barely deserved to be on the ballot.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            I go with the age old he didn’t dominate his peers so for me, Blyleven is a no. He pitched a ton but those aren’t HofF numbers to me. Maybe I’m not looking at it right.

            But good point on his WAR:

            https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/WAR_pitch_career.shtml

            The Baines/Kent thing was just a shot at how low standards seem to grip the Hall.

          2. robc

            Like a said below, Baines was a Vet committee pick and their standards suck. The BBWAA may vote in guys I wouldn’t put in, but they don’t make flat out mistakes.

          3. Not Adahn

            There’s a formal BBW Association of America?

            /asking for John

        3. robc

          Baines voted in by Vet committee. They put in the worst of the crap in the Hall.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Speaking of the Vet committee, what do you think of Morris being in?

          2. robc

            I think the BBWAA was right not voting him in. He was the key to two World Series teams, he isn’t the worst Veterans pick.

            I have always considered him borderline.

            Only 44 WAR, but his peak (if you go with best 5 non-consecutive years) is 25.5. Which is decent. Not superb, but pretty good. He just had a lot of years where he was marginal.

            Blyleven had exactly 5 years better than Jack’s best year. 37.6 total for the five.

            Morris is a prime candidate for the Hall of Very Good.

          3. robc

            I always liked Morris, so am a bit biased towards him.

          4. Private Chipperbot

            Morris, Trammell, and Whitaker should all be in the HoF. Morris was the dominate pitcher of his decade. Tram makes Ozzie’s stats look pedestrian, and Sweet Lou shits all over any other second baseman.

          5. Private Chipperbot

            And I’m leaving now, but I’ll be back later to see your confirmation of my totally unbiased assessment.

          6. Private Chipperbot

            And I meant voted in instead of waiting for some old farts to do it.

          7. robc

            Clemens was a better pitcher in the 80s and he didn’t get called up until 1984.

            Ditto Dwight Gooden, although most of his value was in his insane 1985.

          8. robc

            Nolan Ryan and Jack Morris both had 30.6 WAR in the 80s.

          9. Chipwooder

            Andy Pettitte was better than Morris, and he only gets into the HOF if he buys a ticket.

          10. robc

            In 2012 and 2018, the Vet committee got stuff right. They put in Santo and Trammell. Both have just over 70 WAR, players that could have been voted in, but missed for some reason. The Vets did their job and corrected it.

            Every other player they have voted in recently has been marginal at best (Baines, Morris, Lee Smith).

          11. Rufus the Monocled

            The Santo thing is nuts. I have a buddy who saw him play and was appalled at the oversight.

          12. Raven Nation

            Buck O’Neil

    2. B.P.

      I have been to a dentist three times since 1989. In that time, I have only been to an MD for broken bones, dislocated joints, an ACL rupture, and, ahem, a couple of really crippling gout attacks.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Are you in the Big Book of British Smiles?

        1. Bobarian LMD

          By H. P. Lovecraft.

        2. B.P.

          My teeth are gloriously straight and white.

          Or cis-gendered and privileged, I guess.

      2. Spudalicious

        Fuck gout.

    3. Fourscore

      I try to avoid the med doctor except the every year prescription renewal thing. That is even sort of annoying since I’ve been on the one same med for over 20 years. Eye doc and 2 X dentist I always make as required however. Since my hearing (or not hearing) is beginning to be a problem looks like I may have to do something about that as well. If it ain’t broke, its hard to fix.

  15. The Late P Brooks

    Once again, I encourage everyone to look at Rico Soave’s Twitter page

    *once again, doesn’t give a shit*

    1. Mad Scientist

      The Covington thing, and Robby, and Twitter combined is like the perfect storm of shit I do not give a fuck about. It’s as if the Oscars were attended by the Royal Family and afterwards everyone played football.

      1. mr simple

        What kind of football?

        1. Spudalicious

          Not soccer football.

  16. Michael

    In a Slack message reviewed by The Daily Beast, Griffith seemed to brag to Gawker staff that she had gotten them out of a company-wide diversity training session, though neither Kosoff nor Breslaw had asked her to do so. The two ended up attending.

    What the fuck is wrong with these people?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Fear of being targeted for a struggle session

    2. Pan Zagloba

      If they don’t attend, how can they attendance and find other non-attendees?

    3. Viking1865

      My very first day of college went like this:

      12 PM Check into dorm.

      100 PM Final bunch of stuff dragged up to dorm room.

      105 PM My parents say “See you on Fall Break, bye”

      115 PM I start making the rounds, introducing myself, shooting the shit with people.

      Now, 2 PM is the first scheduled event, one of those “icebreaker/mixer” type of planned freshman orientation things. So I end up walking down there with some people. It’s obviously lame as fuck, and after about ten minutes I say “Hey I brought a handle of Jack Daniels up from home, let’s go have a couple drinks and then maybe walk around or something. Anybody else bring some booze? Or got any weed?” The group broke down quickly into three factions.

      1. “Hell yeah, let’s go.”

      2. “Can we do that? Isn’t this mandatory?” This group ended up coming with after I pointed out that “mandatory” was meaningless, because they couldn’t actually do anything to punish legal adults for leaving some kind of orientation event.

      3. “No, we have to stay, this is a mandatory event and they wouldn’t have made it mandatory without a good reason.” This group insisted there was some kind of authority figure who would swoop in on us if we left the boundaries of the field where the icebreaker was. Which, needless to say, was not true.

      It’s shocking how many people my age (I turn 30 in a couple months) who went off to college not with an attitude of “fuck yes I am free to live my life” but an attitude of “OK, so basically, if I need to ask someone what to do, I ask the RA, not my momy.”

      1. Mojeaux

        It’s shocking how many people my age (I turn 30 in a couple months) who went off to college not with an attitude of “fuck yes I am free to live my life” but an attitude of “OK, so basically, if I need to ask someone what to do, I ask the RA, not my momy.”

        That was me in 1986. My father was very controlling. Had no idea how to get along in the world as an adult.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      Maybe diversity training is fun if you are a chick? You get to go on and on about how oppressed you are and how badly you’ve been mistreated. And the dudes don’t dare push back against anything you say.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        Sure, if you’re an ugly chick.

  17. Chipwooder

    I know you’re all probably getting sick of Covington-related links, but this one from Tim Pool is worth your time for a laugh. I thank whoever it was who suggested following Tim Pool recently.

  18. Rufus the Monocled

    “my wife and I are actually going to have an adult dinner out somewhere.”

    Porn dinner?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Some sort of swingers club maybe.

    2. Not Adahn

      No, that’s when he fixes the plumbing

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        ALRIGHT. THAT’S ENOUGH. MOVE ON FROM THIS PART OF THE THREAD.

      2. Spudalicious

        I’m assuming a plunger is involved?

        1. Jarflax

          Pipes will be cleaned.

          1. Spudalicious

            Dump valves will be adjusted.

  19. Winston

    US and Canada have recognized the opposition leader as the president of Venezuela. I wonder what will happen next. Do they think Maduro is done (or has the CIA made sure of this fact) or do they hope this will push the military to drop Maduro? I wonder what will happen next…

    1. Winston

      Err… I just think that recognizing Guaido is a pretty big step. Things could get messy, I mean messier than it is already…

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      What happens next? Nothing, probably nothing. BUT!!! What if it’s something?

      1. Winston

        I have joined the Department of Redundancy Department as this is the Department of Redundancy that I have joined.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          I am sorry but not sorry for your sorry but not sorry being furloughed. Not sorry.

          But sorry.

      2. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Then Pelosi will send noted BU economics graduate Ocasio-Cortez down to help them fix their economy.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      I’m surprised that gaylord Trudeau didn’t support Maduro.

      1. Winston

        Turdeau Sr. has a sad…

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          At least Pierre banged that chick from Sex in the City. Kim Cattrall is it? I forget.

          1. robc

            Who hasn’t banged Kim Cattrall?

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            Me.

          3. Gustave Lytton

            *sighs wistfully at Big Trouble era Cattrall*

          4. Dr. Fronkensteen

            Mannequin era Cattrall for me.

          5. Winston

            Does Ted S. prefer the Kim Cattrall Mannequin or the Joan Crawford Mannequin?

          6. Playa Manhattan

            That’s not the Kim everyone remembers.

            A few years back, my wife had the episode of SitC on where her pubes start turning grey. That’s the Kim I’ll remember.

          7. Bobarian LMD

            And by remember, he means fap to.

          8. Winston

            Who hasn’t banged Kim Cattrall?

            Sarah Jessica Parker?

          9. Bobarian LMD

            Wood — for any time up to Big Trouble in Little China.

  20. mexican sharpshooter

    Multiple people shot in hostage situation at Florida Suntrust Bank

    Multiple people were shot in a hostage situation at a SunTrust Bank in Sebring, Florida, according to Highlands County Commissioner Don Elwell.

    Elwell confirmed there were injuries in the incident. The suspect has been taken into custody, police said. It was unclear if those injured were bank employees or customers inside the bank during the incident.

    Elwell told CNN the incident began after noon on Wednesday. He confirmed there were injuries. It was unclear if those injured were bank employees or customers inside the bank during the incident.

    Overhead video of the scene from CNN affiliate WFLA shows a heavy police presence, several ambulances and a large SWAT vehicle on the scene. Medical personnel entered the bank after the glass entrance to it was destroyed.

    Well, clearly they need to outlaw something here, but what?

    1. Tundra

      Florida?

    2. Playa Manhattan

      Banks.

      WFLA affiliates with CNN? Somebody should tell them… they might not know.

    3. Paper money. It’s time for a cashless society.

      1. mexican sharpshooter

        Then how am I supposed to pay for guns?

        1. Gold, obviously

        2. Pan Zagloba

          In chickens.

          1. mexican sharpshooter

            Live, or will a bucket of Bojangles suffice?

          2. Pan Zagloba

            That stays between you and your gun dealer.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            You think that just because he’s Mexican, he has a bunch of roosters running around in his backyard????

            You’re worse than the Covington kids.

          4. Brett L

            I mean it’s not like he’s Cuban.

        3. Bobarian LMD

          Lead.

        4. Jarflax

          Nuka Cola bottle caps work.

    4. Not Adahn

      Guns. The answer always is to ban gunz.

    5. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

      Reporters are working feverishly to place the Covington Catholic boys at the scene.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        IF TRUE, That would be huge.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          If not, you still have to understand the visceral reaction by so many.

      2. mexican sharpshooter

        In all seriousness, I was surprised the make and model of the weapon used wasn’t mentioned.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          AR-47 with fully automatic bullets.

          1. Spudalicious

            And multiple high capacity magazine clips.

    6. Rebel Scum

      Well, clearly they need to outlaw something here, but what?

      Greed?

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        No need for greed or hunger. A brotherhood of man.

    7. Suthenboy

      Also unclear from that story is who did the shooting.

  21. The Late P Brooks

    Well, clearly they need to outlaw something here, but what?

    Break-ups.

  22. Rebel Scum

    adult dinner

    STEVE SMITH HAVE ADULT DESSERT.

    1. Rebel Scum

      I guess I’m making steak tonight.

  23. Rufus the Monocled

    “We’re disappointed it ended this way, but we can’t continue to work under someone who is antithetical to our sensibility and journalistic ethics, or for an employer [CEO Bryan Goldberg] who refuses to listen to the women who work for him when it’s inconvenient,” Kosoff and Breslaw said.

    Lol. Journalist ethics. Good one.

    Also. I believe the world would be a far better place without HR departments.

  24. Gadfly

    So you run a company that spends 11 months a year producing product that sells out in six weeks, and you can’t stay in business? Was your entire upper management peopled by former government managers?

    The article says the candy hearts were produced by the same company that made Necco wafers, so I’m betting they made a lot of poor decisions on their secondary candy lines (the company went out of business). I’m betting the managers were not ex-gov, but rather the type of old fogy who thinks that “licorice” is still an acceptable flavor for candy.

    1. who thinks that “licorice” is still an acceptable flavor for candy.

      *gently puts down bag of licorice jellybeans*

      *drops gloves*

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        You mnstr.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          And when he says thing, he means euphemism.

      2. Mad Scientist

        Same here. I like my licorice like my men. Black.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Rope thin with a gaping hole at the end?

      3. Gadfly

        Freedom means you have the right to be wrong.

        And you are. Licorice is the flavor of medicine, not candy.

        But I will not press my luck, as I know there are certain candies I like that others find utterly distasteful.

    2. robc

      How did they not sell off the Sweethearts brand for a bunch of money?

      1. Gadfly

        They did…in bankruptcy court. Sweethearts will be back next year once the new company ramps up production.

        1. robc

          Ah, that is what I couldn’t figure out, so the new company didn’t get it in time.

          1. mr simple

            Yeah, Brett wasn’t exaggerating when he said it took them 11 months to produce enough for the 6 week selloff period.

          2. Mad Scientist

            That certainly explains why they always taste like candy made last year.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Just print those messages on a big Skittle. Those candy hearts taste like flavored chalk.

      1. Gadfly

        I’m surprised M&Ms hasn’t stepped in to fill the gap, as I remember they offered custom printing a few years back so clearly have the technology for it.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          You can still get them custom printed

        2. robc

          SweetTarts has them, I saw them in the store the other day.

      2. robc

        Candy Hearts are Tums, as far as I can tell.

    4. B.P.

      Nah, they just ran out of slate to make the Necco wafers.

      1. Not Adahn

        Necco wafers are proof that the “good old days” were crap.

        1. B.P.

          Yeah, back when kids were given rocks to eat as a “treat”.

      2. Spudalicious

        Chocolate Necco wafers were the schnizzle.

    5. Fourscore

      “old fogy who thinks that “licorice” is still an acceptable flavor for candy.”

      What’s up with that?

      /Old fogie who thinks that “licorice” is still the only acceptable flavor for candy./

      1. Jarflax

        How do you feel about horehound? My theory about why old people like Werther’s is that in a world of licorice, horehound and butterscotch, butterscotch must have seemed like ambrosia. “OH MY GOD, this candy is not actively foul tasting! It is merely bland. MY FAVORITE!”

        1. Mojeaux

          You beat me to mentioning the horehound.

          Licorice, fennel, cilantro, horehound, Necco wafers … ?

        2. Fourscore

          I don’t know what horehound is, do like me some butterscotch though.

          “fennel, cilantro, horehound” OMG! Now they are putting spices in MN guy’s stuff? Where is Unciv to bail me out on this. They can’t do that, can they?

        3. Juan-Baptiste Emmanuel Seguin

          Whorehound would be a great thrashmetal band name.

  25. Rebel Scum

    Trump Recognizes Guaido as Venezuela Leader, Rebuking Maduro

    President Donald Trump recognized Juan Guaido as the interim president of Venezuela Wednesday minutes after the opposition leader declared himself the head of state, in the U.S.’s most provocative move yet against the leftist regime of Nicolas Maduro.

    Maduro responded by breaking diplomatic relations with the U.S., giving American diplomats 72 hours to leave the country.

    Guaido, 35, is the president of the Venezuela National Assembly, which Maduro doesn’t recognize. Venezuelans took to the streets in the biggest opposition protests since mid-2017 to back Guaido and increase pressure on Maduro.

    Make Venezuela Great Again?

  26. Gadfly

    Here’s one about a similar age-cohort foregoing doctors.

    FTA:

    So what are the dangers of skipping the doctor’s office and opting for urgent care instead?

    That seems to indicate not that millennial are avoiding the doctor per se, but rather that they only use them on an as-needed basis and prefer not to wait for a scheduled time. Which would seem normal for younger, on average healthier people, plus add in the impatience produced by the glorious on-demand services now offered in so many other areas of life.

    1. Mad Scientist

      Somehow it wouldn’t surprise me that millennials a) prefer not to wait, and b) go to urgent care, and c) don’t understand where their plan went wrong.

      1. robc

        Due to a few too many urgent care visits, I now know the schedule. You have to get there in the morning about 20 minutes before they open.

        The check in desk opens about 15 minutes before starting time and you want to be no worse than 2nd in line.

        We managed 3 consecutive Saturdays last winter.

        1. Gadianton

          If you walk in with a bloody towel held to your eye, you get right in.

          1. Mojeaux

            Also, if you are 8 days postpartum and you have a 102* temperature, call your ob/gyn, you get met at the door of the ER, and fast-tracked right through it.

        2. Brett L

          Fun fact. If you bring in a 3 week old with a 100+ degree fever, they’ll refund your fee and tell you to go to the ER. Who will fuck up the swab for a UTI, keep him overnight and then make you come back twice more before they figure it out. I was like, he’s not dying of hemhorragic fever. He’s just healthy-sick. Tell me the right dose of kids Motrin for a 12lb baby.

  27. Not Adahn

    I just realized…

    It has been more than twenty years since Joe Camel was banned.

    I wonder if Evan even knows what the header pic is?

    1. B.P.

      I worked in the university student union circa 1992 cleaning tables, and saved up enough of those Camel bucks to get the Joe Camel neon sign. About a month after I received it, some fucker broke into the storage space at my apartment and stole it.

    2. I still have a joe camel head beer can coozie.

      1. Chipwooder

        I have a Joe Camel t-shirt. Of course, I’ve been too fat to wear it anymore, since about 2010.

  28. cyto

    So Pelosi has cancelled the State of the Union Address, at least at the House.

    So my brother says Trump should hold it at the Catholic school. Dude wouldn’t even have to campaign in 2020.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Goddammit don’t make me like Pelosi.

      This country would be at least 50% better if we went back to the pre-Wilsonian era of the State of the Union being delivered in a letter to Congress.

      1. Tonio

        Yep, it would really cut down on the grandstanding, and the huge security cost.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        Tacit Rainbow suggested he should nail the SotU speech to the doors and then give it on the steps outside.

        1. But Enough About Me

          I like that. Go all Martin Luther on their asses.

      3. Winston

        Goddammit don’t make me like Pelosi.

        Well only until the next Democrat President comes in…

      4. R C Dean

        Goddammit don’t make me like Pelosi.

        Even though I would vastly prefer the old memo approach, it will take more than Pelosi disinviting Orange Man Bad to make me like her. A lot more.

      5. thepasswordispassword

        Unthreaded tweets are the only acceptable medium for the modern state of the union.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Why do you hate those kids so much?

      1. cyto

        It would be hilarious. Second best idea I’ve heard lately, after the suggestion that the Catholic school kid should have dropped a couple of bucks in the Native American’s drum.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Thanks for depressing me this morning about the news and how ‘norma’ people view the MAGA kids.

          When I showed my wife the other side of the argument she said, ‘ I did not hear this on the news at all’.

          I keep telling her to not bother listening to the news. It’s just shit. The irrelevant libertarian with the pony tail in the movies was right. It’s all lies.

        2. Tonio

          That would have been epic.

    3. Winston

      When is the State of the Union? So I can not watch (Full Disclosure: I don’t think I have ever watched one)

      And who was it that made the Televised Version a big event?

      1. cyto

        More importantly, who is the guy who started marking up copies of the speech with instructions to sit, stand, clap, don’t clap, etc.? That guy should be keelhauled.

        1. Dr. Fronkensteen

          You’re merciful.

          1. Jarflax

            Depends on what ship. I think keelhauling gets more intense when it’s a super carrier.

        2. Brett L

          What is this? Catholic Church?

      2. Spudalicious

        Woodrow Wilson made it a big event in the House. Television was just the natural extension.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      At this point, he should just break all dumb protocols and give it from McDonald’s or the Church as you say.

      He should even have Robert Palmer models stand behind him. Go for broke. They already bitch about literally anything he does.

      1. Chipwooder

        And sit on a giant, solid-gold throne.

        1. Spudalicious

          So give it from the Oval Office shitter?

    5. Pope Jimbo

      If it wasn’t so cold, he could have give it at the Little Big Horn park and pour out a 40 for Custer.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      It’ll just be a four minute clip of Tony eating a meatball grinder then he gets kicked in the nuts.

  29. prolefeed

    Since Q late on the mark, T&A Wednesday!

    https://thechive.com/2018/11/08/strap-in-were-headed-off-to-squish-ville-50-photos/

    If you’re into thiccness, 17, 18, 21, 31, 47 hit the sweet spot.

  30. Juvenile Bluster

    https://www.elnuevoherald.com/noticias/mundo/america-latina/venezuela-es/article224968900.html#storylink=latest_side

    (Spanish language link)

    tl;dr; US says “all options are on the table” if the Maduro regime “chooses violence” against its new opposition President.

    Which will happen.

    So yeah.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      En la teleconferencia, el funcionario dejó en claro que entre las medidas sobre la mesa aún se encuentra la opción militar.

      On the teleconference, the official made it clear that among the options on the table is the military option*

      * High School Spanish-level translation

  31. commodious spittoon

    Sue, baby, sue. Lawyer for Covington students gives libelous cowards an ultimatum: retract within 48 hours, or we’re bringing suit.

    The attorney said that one of the people he was looking at is Maggie Haberman, a reporter for the powerful and influential New York Times.

    “She falsely made statements about these kids. She basically invited their expulsion from school, the ruining of their reputations. She did so based on inadequate review of the information, a failure to look at the evidence, and despite knowing from her own newspaper how false those original statements are, she has yet to retract, yet to correct, yet to apologize, and she’ll be one of the people sued if she doesn’t do it in the next 48 hours.”

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      They can sue. They probably won’t win.

      1. R C Dean

        Oh, I dunno. The kids weren’t “public figures” so I don’t think the Sullivan quasi-immunity would apply, the inaccuracies, distortions and lies have been solidly refuted. I kinda like their chances (depending, of course, on exactly what the various defendants actually said).

        Its funny – when Trump said during the campaign that he thought our defamation laws needed to be changed, practically nobody agreed with him. I’m starting to see more people dip their toe in those waters since this shitshow began.

        1. Winston

          Who are the judges that will rule in the favor of these kids though?

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          For me, that the left was willing to ruin teenagers over this was truly appalling.

        3. Playa Manhattan

          And…. they can show damages.

          If they haven’t already, claim to be scared and hire security…. and you have damages.

        4. Heroic Mulatto

          when Trump said during the campaign that he thought our defamation laws needed to be changed

          Less strict or more strict? I wouldn’t want us to become like Europe where libel is saying something true but hurts someone’s reputation.

          1. grrizzly

            That can encourage the use of euphemisms like “tired and emotional.”

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            I’ll try to find the video, but there was a case where a pub in either England or Scotland successfully sued a newspaper for slander by reporting a person got drunk there.

          3. Playa Manhattan

            That sounds like bad advertising.

            “Come here and don’t get drunk”

          4. Pan Zagloba

            London, I believe, is a destination of choice for Great and Good (or at least Famous and/or Monied) for slander suits, specifically.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            I think the issue was that in their reporting of the drunk who did something, the pub argued that it implied they over-served him.

          6. grrizzly

            This is the video I had in mind.

          7. Winston

            I wouldn’t want us to become like Europe where libel is saying something true but hurts someone’s reputation.

            Isn’t that the reputation of people the judges approve of or am I being too harsh?

          8. Pan Zagloba

            From President Butthurt? More strict, of course.

          9. R C Dean

            Less strict or more strict?

            Basically, I think he wanted to get rid of Sullivan‘s judicial grant of quasi-immunity to the press for stories about famous people.

            Ah, but they’re public figures now.

            I don’t think someone is a public figure for purposes of their defamation suit against you, when your defamation of them is what made them famous.

            I hate the idea that a precedent could be set to curtail speech.

            Say what you want about someone. If its false and causes them damage, well, free speech doesn’t mean freedom from the consequences of speech.

        5. Pan Zagloba

          Ah, but they’re public figures now.

        6. cyto

          Simon Moya-Smith writing for CNN today:

          “Let’s be absolutely clear about something here: Whatever else may have been said about it or our country’s reactions to it, the racist disrespect of Nathan Phillips, a Native American elder, by Nick Sandmann and his MAGA-hat clad classmates of Covington Catholic High School at the Lincoln Memorial is nothing new”

          Got a case there.

          The spokeswoman for Phillips is dead to rights. She said Sandmann got in Phillips face and that the kids were racists chanting build a wall.

          Phillips said he was trying to march to the memorial up the steps and Phillips blocked his way, refusing to move. An obvious lie. A lie that Phillips later refuted by claiming that he (Phillips) went to confront the boy because they were taunting a bunch of young african-americans with racist taunts…. a clear lie that is refuted by the tape as well. Phillips admits that he lied about the boy by the later lies he tells that contradict his original lies. So he’s toast, but probably judgement proof.

          CNN is way over the line… forget the original story, which is indefensible… their “retraction” is 90% a repetition of things that they know to be false, only adding “somebody said” in front of it in order to distance themselves. That might not be enough. Repeating a lie doesn’t automatically offer protection if you knew it was a lie and you repeat it without clarification that you know it to be a lie.

          Then you have all of the thousands of bloggers who are still calling him a racist and saying that he was attacking a tribal elder because he was an indian… that is demonstrably false as well.

          I doubt anybody is actually going to get sued. The Sandmann family has signaled that they want it to be over with, so that’s probably what happens.

          But if I was the dad I’d seriously consider going after CNN, NBC and MSNBC… oh, and HuffPo. They were particularly awful and stuck to their guns way too long. CNN publishing an editorial today calling them racists is indefensible.

          1. cyto

            Also from today’s CNN article:

            “It also didn’t shock me when the all-boys Catholic school crew went so far as to shout “build the wall” at a Native American, according to Phillips’ account of the event. It just goes to show you that MAGA isn’t merely about immigration, it’s about skin pigmentation.
            And the irony isn’t lost on me that white kids — descendants of Europe, presumably — would shout “build the wall” at a man whose ancestry on this soil is tens of thousands of years old.”

            also an outright lie. And followed up by a bunch of the Native American activists shouting racist things, like “go back to Europe”. Since the video was long available and this was vetted by editors, they are on the hook for lying about the kids and their actions. Adding “according to” to the middle of your commentary isn’t going to let you off the hook under those conditions, particularly not when you put your own stamp of approval on the accusations by saying it “didn’t shock me” and the irony isn’t lost on you…. now you’ve publicly stated that you believe it to be true. This after video evidence proving it to be a lie has long been available and you and your editors have no doubt reviewed it – and certainly should have before publishing this libel.

            Yeah, CNN should lose their shirts.

            They won’t. But they should.

          2. cyto

            One last statement from that article:

            “And that is the only difference here: Sandmann intentionally mocked a native elder for the entertainment of his friends, got caught, and still won’t apologize.”

            He’s got an easy libel case if he wants it.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        I’m really torn. I’d like to see some real repercussions for the reporters who slimed these kids, but I hate the idea that a precedent could be set to curtail speech.

        I’m not sure how you can quantify the harm done to these kids.

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Like how a gun club sued Katie Couric for dishonest edit?

      Yeah, it’s a waste of time and money.

    3. Heroic Mulatto

      If you’ve said anything false about these kids, they are willing to extend you a 48-hour time period — a period of grace consistent with their Christian faith — for you to, through confession, get redemption and retract and correct and apologize.

      Oh, brother! As if I didn’t already hate everyone involved, now this asshole appears.

      1. Jarflax

        Not sure what is assholish about that?

        1. Pan Zagloba

          through confession, get redemption and retract and correct and apologize

          is a phrase that would not raise an eyebrow in a Marxist struggle session.

          1. Jarflax

            Except that they are being asked to retract blatant outright lies they printed to attack his clients and he is offering not to sue if they voluntarily retract. They are not being asked to change their political beliefs, or any beliefs for that matter, nor are they being attacked for those beliefs; they are being given a chance to retract their libelous statements before he brings suit for libel. This is what was once considered the courteous decent course in law, before the gotcha school took over the profession.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          Not sure what is assholish about that?

          An ostentatious display of religiosity (faux or not).

          1. commodious spittoon

            *shrug* He who pays the piper.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            Thing is, I really doubt that comes from the kids or even their parents. They really should have opted for better representation than Father Johnnie Cochran up there.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            In a better world, one in which Eddie Murphy is still on the cast perhaps, Father Johnny Cochran is an SNL character, with writing that matches the glory of the concept.

          4. commodious spittoon

            He’s working pro bono is my point (though I expect he hopes to recoup from damages). But yes, the parents should tell him to tone it down and render unto Caesar some salad.

          5. Rufus the Monocled

            Father Guido Sarducci where are you!?

          6. Jarflax

            The kids have been attacked for their religious affiliation (among other things) I don’t think it’s gratuitous.

          7. Heroic Mulatto

            Well, de gustibus and all that jazz. Writing a cease and desist letter in which you call upon the individual ‘to confess and seek redemption’ (in the eyes of the Lord, I guess?) is over-egging the pudding in my opinion.

            Though, I hear Disney uses the same phrase in its C&Ds.

          8. Stillhunter

            Agree it may be a bit over the top, since it could turn off non-Catholics, but the words still have the same meaning outside Catholicism . Admit you were wrong and you will be forgiven may be a more secular way of putting it.

          9. MikeS

            Lemme guess, you are Catholic?

      2. Mad Scientist

        Leeches. Happens every time.

      3. Not Adahn

        A plaintiff’s lawyer? An asshole?

        *swoons onto fainting couch*

    4. creech

      Has anyone leaked their SAT scores yet and has Harvard admitted them regardless of possible mediocre scores?

    5. R C Dean

      Well, Ilhan Omar jumped on the bandwagon and has since deleted some tweets that were demonstrably false. I wonder if they will make her a defendant, as well? Because that would be awesome.

      1. Rebel Scum

        Seconded.

      2. cyto

        Was that real? They were so bad I assumed someone faked it.

  32. Michael

    Re: Gawker

    I just Google image searched Carson Griffith and everything suddenly makes perfect sense.

  33. Brasidas

    The most glorious thing happened at work today. A coworker complained to corporate HR and successfully had the local HR rep removed from my warehouse. The HR rep’s attempt to turn a warehouse full of cranky, old, blue collar men into something politically correct has failed.

    There was much rejoicing.

    1. whiz

      Wow, what time warp or alternative universe do you live in? (Congrats!)

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      INT. Room full of crusty, experienced, blue collar men who have seen the worst of life and survived. HR rep enters.

      HR: Why hello friends! Gather around. I have news. In keeping with our ideological agenda, we’re gonna have to ask you all to keep the fag jokes to a minimum. I know there are no women here but that’s about to change because meet….LOLA! We found “her” (giggle) in North Soho. She’ll also be your ‘Diversity’ buddy to ensure you all change your spots and submit to our new codes of conduct policy. I’m sure this will be beneficial to everyone!

      /Knuckles crack. Growls get louder. Bullying grins emerge.

  34. The Late P Brooks

    Hunker down

    The Rifle & Pistol case begins, then, with four virtually certain votes against the New York law—the two newcomers, Thomas, and Alito. Chief Justice John Roberts voted for the gun owners in Heller and McDonald. He may have been trying to keep the Court out of the Second Amendment area for institutional reasons since then, but that’s not likely to make him go back on his earlier votes when the time comes to throw down.

    “The impact of this case could be huge,” Winkler told me, because the Court may decide that the right to gun possession extends outside the home. The Court could undermine long-standing restrictions on concealed carry in America’s major cities, leading to hundreds of thousands more guns on the streets of Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, D.C.

    Beyond that, a sharp jurisprudential turn on guns may signal that a confident conservative majority feels ready to make big leaps to the right in other areas, ranging from campaign finance to religious freedom to civil rights to abortion.

    This nation will be completely unrecognizable in a few years. Better flee to the EU before it’s too late.

    1. prolefeed

      From the link:

      “Does the “right to keep and bear arms” extend to semiautomatic weapons?”

      It’s like they think semiautomatic weapons are some kind of variant of a machine gun, instead of virtually every legal gun in America.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Does the right to worship as you please extend to Mormans, Pastafarians and Scientologists? Those are all religions that came up after the Founding Fathers wrote that pesky Constitution.

      2. Rebel Scum

        The right extends to weapons, period*. This absolutely includes automatic firearms.

        *The only discussion and possible restrictions with regard to Constitutionality I am open to these days is the distinction between discriminate and indiscriminate weapons. Keep in mind that, early on, artillery was often privately held and used.

        1. Mad Scientist

          As far as I’m concerned, the right is there explicitly for self-defense from the government. ANY weapon the government has is fair game in private hands.

        2. cyto

          Yeah, I get that it is pragmatic to not hold the government to the letter of the constitution (being that almost everything would be unconstitutional and therefore governing would be impractical), but the language is absolute. “Shall not be infringed”. It doesn’t say “unless we think it is a good idea” or “unless weapons are too dangerous”. The supreme court just flat made up an excuse for restrictions that is indefensible in the face of the plain reading of the law.

          But then they do that with everything. Even the first amendment has been that way since the beginning. And forget about 9 and 10. They swept those things under the rug a century ago.

    2. R C Dean

      the Court may decide that the right to gun possession extends outside the home

      Effing Christ. Do they really think the Second Amendment was only intended to apply inside your house? That’s a serious argument, that is being seriously considered?

      1. Winston

        Living constitution!

      2. prolefeed

        They think the 2nd was written by a bunch of crimethinkers, and a living constitution means it should become a dead letter, cause guns kill and are bad — unless in the hands of government agents. Having been slapped down by SCOTUS several times, they keep coming up with the narrowest possible interpretation of gun rights. This is one such.

      3. B.P.

        It pairs well with that no-quartering-of-troops thing.

      4. Playa Manhattan

        Are the homeless a protected class? Because I have an idea….

      5. Rebel Scum

        That’s a serious argument

        That is completely nullified by “…keep and bear…” along with defining every other term in the amendment as it was at the time it was passed.

        1. cyto

          I like the way they try to twist it into “for lawful purposes like target shooting and hunting.” So you can only keep and bear a target pistol or hunting rifle – and then only during season…

          Arms were for holding the government accountable, among other things. Nobody, and i mean NOBODY is going to go with that interpretation. You gotta be a 2nd amendment nutjob to go with that one.

          This, even though the language is unambiguous. The government may not interfere with your right to keep and bear arms in any way at all.

    3. Rebel Scum

      because the Court may decide that the right to gun possession extends outside the home.

      Said right exists regardless of what they say. They will hopefully vote to overturn existing unconstitutional legislation.

      The Court could undermine long-standing restrictions on concealed carry in America’s major cities, leading to hundreds of thousands more guns on the streets of Los Angeles, New York, and Washington, D.C.

      Good. These peoples rights are currently being violated.

      big leaps to the right in other areas, ranging from campaign finance to religious freedom to civil rights to abortion.

      So IOW back towards some semblance of Constitutionalism. I can’t wait.

  35. Fatty Bolger

    A lot of basic medical needs can be met cheaply online now. Companies like Lemonaid Health only charge $25 for an online visit, which can be done using your phone. Obviously anything that requires a physical examination wouldn’t work, but a surprising number of things can be handled online, and they can order tests for you and send prescriptions straight to the pharmacy.

    1. commodious spittoon

      THAT’S NOT REAL CARE! Healthcare isn’t real unless you schedule a visit six weeks in advance, wait nearly an hour before you’re seen, get five minutes to chat with your physician, who then bills your insurer two grand.

      1. R C Dean

        Eh, its a living.

        *clicks over to email detailing phat annual bonus*

  36. Juvenile Bluster

    More Venezuela:

    Countries that have officially recognized Guadio as President of Venezuela: USA, Canada, Guatemala, Chile, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Paraguay, Argentina
    Unofficially recognized: Organization of American States, European Council
    Still deciding: European Union
    Still recognize Maduro: Mexico, Bolivia, Russia
    Not saying anything but “betting on a peaceful solution”: Spain, Portugal

    Guiado says he will not hole himself up in any embassy.
    Maduro has given the US diplomats 72 hours to leave.

    1. Michael

      This is shaping up to be a disaster, and I am hoping against hope that Trump doesn’t do anything stupid.

    2. R C Dean

      Maduro has given the US diplomats 72 hours to leave.

      Time to chopper in some Marines and set up a 24-hour CAP over our embassy.

      1. Rebel Scum

        Is there precedent for that? I’d think any involvement from us should not involve troops on the ground. But embassies are technically sovereign territory of the countries that occupy them.

    3. mexican sharpshooter

      I assume Mexico and Russia are waiting it out before they jump on the bandwagon, but what’s Bolivia’s deal?

      1. Michael

        Evo Morales.

        1. DEG

          Yep.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if Cuba decides to recognize Maduro.

        2. Suthenboy

          ^This^
          Pinkos of a feather

          1. Rhywun

            I’m surprised China hasn’t already put themselves in the Maduro camp.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            China, wisely, doesn’t make a big display of such things and officially has a policy of non-interference. Except for Pakistan.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            China isn’t stupid.

          4. Spudalicious

            China is busy making mining extraction contracts.

      2. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Their leader is a socialist idjit as well.

    4. B.P.

      And yet I’m sure Trump’s action on this thing is somehow uniquely outrageous.

      1. JaimeRoberto, Public Intellectual

        Yeah, he’s doing just what Russia wants him to do.

        1. Winston

          *Head explodes from cognitive dissonance*

        2. Pan Zagloba

          Chess is popular in Russia, after all…

  37. R C Dean

    Can apps + The Interwebs really reduce the bullshit and optimize your time spent on such things to approximately zero, or not?

    I laughed out loud. Apps and the internet reducing bullshit? That would be different.

    His story involved a young entrepreneur walking away from a million-dollar partnership rather than pay a $5000 retainer.

    If that’s really the only reason he walked away from an otherwise good deal worth a million bucks, he’s an idiot (which doesn’t mean he is unrepresentative). I haven’t really seen this, but I’m probably not in a position to, either.

    1. Brett L

      It’s all second hand but my friend the lawyer said he called the guy who referred the young man after not hearing from him for a week and got that story. It’s not admissible in court, but apparently the young man’s attitude was that getting an equitable settlement wasn’t worth it because he had another big idea. Maybe the guy really is a serial millionaire inventor, or maybe he should have got his money so he could negotiate a better deal the next time.

  38. Winston

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_tree_doctrine

    The living tree doctrine has been deeply entrenched into Canadian constitutional law since the seminal constitutional case of Edwards v Canada (Attorney General) also widely known as the Persons Case wherein Viscount Sankey stated in the 1929 decision: “The British North America Act planted in Canada [is] a living tree capable of growth and expansion within its natural limits.” This is known as the Doctrine of Progressive Interpretation. This means that the Constitution cannot be interpreted in the same way as an ordinary statute. Rather, it must be read within the context of society to ensure that it adapts and reflects changes. If constitutional interpretation adheres to the Framer’s Intent and remains rooted in the past, the Constitution would not be reflective of society and eventually fall into disuse.

    The “frozen concepts” reasoning runs contrary to one of the most fundamental principles of Canadian constitutional interpretation: that our Constitution is a living tree which, by way of progressive interpretation, accommodates and addresses the realities of modern life….

    Lord Sankey LC’s reference to “natural limits” did not impose an obligation to determine, in the abstract and absolutely, the core meaning of constitutional terms….[1]

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      How can something frozen run contrary to Canadian principles?

    2. Playa Manhattan

      The constitution is just a weed. Got it.

      1. Winston

        Well we have legal weed now, though this was due to Parliament rather than judicial decree.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        That is my understanding of the English Constitutional principles, in which laws, legal precedents, pre-existing rights and royal privileges form an unwritten Constitution that, well, kept the country more liberal than the result of horrified Continental Enlightenment Philosophers’ attempts to create the written down perfectly rational set of laws that will ensure human liberty.

        Yes, yes, I know. Muh socialism, Airstrip One, blarg blarg. To which my response is

        a) Elect Thatcher before tossing rocks
        b) Blair did listen and adopted Supreme Court and written Constitution. Better?

        1. Winston

          But didn’t this work because there were Liberal institutions?

          The downside is what do you do if parliament decides one of those pre-existing rights is out of date?

          1. Pan Zagloba

            Argue precedent, try and sway either parliament or substantial amount of public to your cause, appeal to the Law Lords or send armed soldiers to clear out the lot because they’ve done all the good they will are, I believe, some of historical measures.

            But yes, if your Parliament, Lords (including Law Lords), King/Queen and large segments of business, judiciary, voters (and in the past, ecclesiastical and military) agree with it, then yes, rights are gone (or more likely, interpreted as privileges that will be regulated). I’ll be fucked if I can come up with a system that withstands such a situation, though.

    3. Suthenboy

      “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

      ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

      ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

  39. wdalasio

    Kosoff and Breslaw said they met with human resources to complain of several instances in which they felt personally uncomfortable working with Griffith.

    You have exactly two full-time writers and a human resources department. Yeah, this was a winning business model from the outset.

  40. LJW

    Deer Jumps Over Dog

    Dog says, “ok, whatever”.

    1. Tundra

      Deer are retarded.

      I did have a fox sitting on my front patio, just enjoying the sun. My damn dog didn’t even notice.

      1. Jarflax

        Country cousin came for a visit and sat a spell on the porch. Your dog was just being neighborly.

      2. Not Adahn

        I had a close encounter with two of those tonight in the freezing rain. Retarded is correct. “Hooved rats” is inappropriate, rats have much better senses of self-preservation.

        1. Mad Scientist

          On the other hand (ha!) deer skin makes excellent abrasion resistant gloves.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    In the final analysis, it’s Trump’s fault

    The whole saga is an example of the Donald Trump–era overcorrection. The president has no use for facts; he simply says whatever he wants, and his followers repeat it uncritically. That has made it even more important for journalists to get the facts right, and to acknowledge when they get them wrong, to prove that they abide by facts rather than sentiment. The president’s conscious attempts to delegitimize the media make this task even more difficult. Much of the mainstream media, meanwhile, is working tirelessly to win back the trust of Trump’s followers, whether by conceding the president’s framing, offering endless watercolored portraits of Trump supporters in Midwest diners, or making other displays of sympathy.

    ————

    The real issue raised by the video is the messages these kids are being sent by adults and authority figures about how to treat people, especially those who are different from them. And in both cases, the escalation with the Black Hebrew Israelite faction and the jeering of Phillips, what is most clear is that in this regard, the adults in their life have failed them.

    Gosh, Adam, maybe if you weren’t so flagrantly searching for “evidence” which will prove your conclusions, maybe we wouldn’t default to the presumption you’re lying.

    Those poor boys. They aren’t being raised as good self-loathing social justice warriors. They’re doomed to a life of sin and degradation.

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Much of the mainstream media, meanwhile, is working tirelessly to win back the trust of Trump’s followers,

      Objection. Argument of facts not in evidence.

    2. Chipwooder

      I posted about that one in the last thread! You don’t read my posts *sobs*

      Still laughing over that “Much of the mainstream media, meanwhile, is working tirelessly to win back the trust of Trump’s followers” bit

    3. B.P.

      Wait, what I’ve been seeing is “Much of the mainstream media… working tirelessly to win back the trust of Trump’s followers..”?!!

      I’m quite aghast at the levels to which some people are willing to go to cling to their “toxic white males!” narrative, offering a bunch of “yeah, but…”s when the additional video footage came out, ignoring the actual bad behavior from full-blown adults going on around the chosen villains in the video, etc.

      1. cyto

        Hey, Savanna Guthrie gave the boy multiple opportunities to apologize. She even asked him if he saw the fault he bears. And she asked if he ever bothered to see things from other people’s point of view…..

        What more do you want from the mainstream media?

    4. Rebel Scum

      The president has no use for facts; he simply says whatever he wants, and his followers repeat it uncritically.

      But enough about Barry.

  42. Winston

    Speaking of the “living constitution” this does raise the question: Can rights exist if people do not believe in them? Let’s take Free Speech: You need politicians willing to write free-speech friendly laws and judges willing to obey free speech laws and strike down ones that violate it, these judges need to be appointed by politicians, these judges need to go to law school. You Need lawyers who believe in free speech and they need to pass the bar and go to law school somewhere. You need academics and philosophers to proclaim free speech as a important value. And you need a general populace that believes in it and will punish those who violate it.

    1. Shorter Winston: are rights inherent or invented by the State?

      1. Suthenboy

        I think someone wrote an article on that subject.

        1. Yep, I’m too lazy to look up the link, but the tl;dr follows.

          Rights are inherent moral characteristics of relationships.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        If a free speech tree falls in a forest…

      3. Rebel Scum

        Yea, the distinction is that rights exist weather or not someone is willing and able to violate them. He may be thinking more along the lines of practicality against violation of rights. This is relevant to democratic government. Rights are secure in the US (Lol…) because the Constitution says what the government must do and what it is prohibited from doing regardless of what people vote for. The trouble is that this document is ignored, which leaves democracy, which leads to people voting to violate the rights of others, which is carried out by the State. In this paradigm it is also relevant to acknowledge that we should not be importing people likely to vote for socialist policies. Rights exist, period. But they only exist functionally so long as our social systems are not used to violate them.

        *cue Hyperbole to accuse me of wanting an ideological test for entry to the country.

        1. Winston

          I am definitely thinking more of the practicality of it all. “Freedom of Speech is a natural right” but what if Congress, The courts, The President, the bureaucracy, the law schools, the academics, the universities and pop culture do not believe it?

          1. dontreadonme

            Ah, second amendment?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      It’s a good question. My gut reaction would be that the “Platonic form” (for lack of a better term) of a natural right exists whether or not people believe in it. For example, one can deduce that for an organism to continue living, it must have the right to do so. In a time when a right to life wasn’t universally accepted, this right was violated all the time; however, the practice of the right has no bearing on the validity of the moral reasoning from which the right was deduced. On the other hand, I would say that in your example, legal rights, as social constructs, do not exist if there isn’t a culture that supports such construct.

      Again, just off-the-cuff, but I’m not totally married to this position yet if I can be convinced otherwise.

      1. Suthenboy

        *facepalm*

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          ?

          What did I do now?

          1. Pan Zagloba

            I know, you didn’t post a link in what, 24 hours?

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            After reading, I saw a woman jiggling dat ass.

      2. Jarflax

        I think you are touching Truth here. Natural rights, and Justice seem like the two phenomena (things? entities?) where platonic ideals may have some reality (validity? truth?)

      3. Pan Zagloba

        For example, one can deduce that for an organism to continue living, it must have the right to do so.

        Or merely an ability to do so, one that might run into a superior ability of another organism and be lost.

        1. Jarflax

          Rights are not statements about what will happen. That would be either tautological or untrue. They are statements about what should happen. They are standards for measuring moral judgments. Your right to life doesn’t shield you from my bullet. It simply makes my shooting you immoral.

    3. wdalasio

      Can rights exist if people do not believe in them?

      Well, I would argue that the rights exist, whether they are believed in or not. A right is a moral standard. It’s a definition of what people can morally do to one another. Society can behave immorally. And can do so with impunity, And a society that doesn’t respect rights, or morality in general, will lead to that. But, it won’t change the fact that they’re behaving immorally.

      1. wdalasio

        Or what HM said, ’cause he said it purdier.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Occupational hazard.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      This is very close to the God or Utilitarian debate.

      My counter argument:

      My rights exist because I believe in them.

      1. dontreadonme

        Enough said.

  43. Tres Cool

    Iceland says, drink the pain away

    1. DEG

      The headline says that is the world’s first beer spa. Fake news. This place has been around a few years.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        My shower beers have been around longer.

        1. deadhead

          Obligatory … oh wait. Misunderstood lyrics again, FTW.

          thinking

          who does that in the shower?

      2. dontreadonme

        Reminds me of this old joke,”Old man O’Malley had worked down at the brewery for years, but one day he just wasn’t paying attention and he tripped on the walkway and fell over into the beer vat and drowned. The foreman thought it should be his job to inform the Widow O’Malley of her old man’s death. He showed up at the front door and rang the bell. When she came to the door, he said, “I’m sorry to tell you, but your poor husband passed away at work today when he fell into the vat and drowned.” She wept and covered her face with her apron and after a time, between sobs, she asked, “Tell me, did he suffer?” “Knowing Brian O’Malley as well as I did, I don’t think so,” said the foreman, “He got out three times to go to the men’s room.”

    2. Suthenboy

      Who the hell wants to sit in a vat with other people’s squishy, bubbly beer farts? I guess for every fetish there is someone out there….

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Bob and Doug McKenzie?

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Take off, hoser!

        2. Suthenboy

          OK, that made me laugh
          I forgot about those guys

  44. Tres Cool

    I hope Brett and Mrs L have some escargot with their dinner.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Still laughing over that “Much of the mainstream media, meanwhile, is working tirelessly to win back the trust of Trump’s followers” bit

    The mainstream media have been in the bag for Trump all along! They practically stuffed the ballot boxes for him. 5D chess, baby.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Don’t worry. We know wht we’re doing.

    It’s not unusual for P&G advertisements to address social issues. More brands may soon follow suit, because many customers want to see strong stands on politically charged topics like race, immigration, gay rights, guns and the environment.

    “The ‘woke’ business strategy will be big theme in 2019, as that’s where the money is,” Scott Galloway, founder of the business research firm Gartner L2 and a professor of marketing at New York University Stern School of Business, told CNN Business last week.

    I can’t wait for the Gillette ad where the kid steals his daddy’s guns and turns them in to the cops for Tide gift certificates.

    “That’s where the money is.” Sure, sonny.

    1. B.P.

      Insulting upwards of half of your audience, particularly when you sell products that rely on brand loyalty, when you could otherwise just stay silent on divisive subjects. Yeah, that sure is where the money is. This guy teaches business.

      P&G stock kicked ass today on reports of strong 4Q earnings. It might be time for me to dump mine.

      1. Mojeaux

        I have a hard time believing their reach is that extensive. For instance, we would never see those ads because we DVR everything and skip the commercials. Even if we saw the commercials, my husband wouldn’t give it a second’s notice or thought, and I only half watch TV anyway because I’m here thinking about what you all said and composing snappy comebacks in my head.

        So I’m thinking that the reach, accounting for those Gillette customers who actually see TV ads and those who’d give them a second thought, isn’t as much as all that.

        1. Suthenboy

          I completely blank out when ads play. Wifey has the TV on now. It has been 30 seconds or so since the last ad. I couldn’t tell you what it was or what it was advertising to save my life.

    2. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Coastal elites have more money than the rubes? That’s about the only thing I can think of.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Also, look at their portfolio of brands, who does most of the purchasing of these types of products?

        1. Mad Scientist

          Fucking fabric softeners and dryer sheets. My wife spends perfectly good money on that shit. I do not understand.

          1. Chipwooder

            Dryer sheets are essential for avoiding constant static on my shirts

          2. If your dryer had balls, it wouldn’t be an issue.

        2. Playa Manhattan

          Woke peoples’ maids and nannies.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            I wonder if they played the ad on Univision.

        3. Tundra

          Goddamit.

          Mr. Clean Magic Erasers are awesome and Vicks Vapo Rub is magic.

          1. Mojeaux

            Mentholatum #FTW

          2. Michael

            The Home Depot house brand magic erasers are just as good and cost a tiny fraction of what you’ll pay for the Mr. Clean ones.

          3. Tundra

            Thanks for the tip. What about Charmin?

          4. A Leap at the Wheel

            No, you should not wipe your but with Home Depot house brand magic erasers.

          5. Mad Scientist

            We’re secretly replaced Tundra’s Charmin with Home Depot house brand magic erasers. Let’s see if he notices.

          6. Tundra

            Expensive, but intriguing…

          7. Aus

            I use Viva… like so much better than all other paper towels. I don’t even understand how it’s possible.

          8. Aus

            Get off brand super cheap on amazon!

        4. wdalasio

          True. But, I think most people are buying the specific brand and not P&G.

        5. Rhywun

          I go through a lot of Febreze. Not as much since I quit tobacco but still really like the product.

          I am also loyal to Bounty as it’s the best paper towel. And Swiffer. And Safeguard – my favorite soap. Dammit!

        6. grrizzly

          I can easily give up Gillette. But Charmin? Never.

    3. Mad Scientist

      I suppose I could see “that’s where the money is” in the case where you make a product indistinct from 9 other competitors. Sure, the woke ad pisses off half the populace, but the other half switches to your brand, and you’ve gone from 10% market share to 50% just like that. But I’m also going to guess that effect is temporary. 4 of your competitors will start making similar ads and the other 5 may well make ads appealing to the other half of the population and boom, you’re right back to 10%, and now a significant chunk of people hate your guts. So if “that’s where the money is,” I suspect it’s only there for a very brief time.

      1. wdalasio

        Sure, the woke ad pisses off half the populace, but the other half switches to your brand, and you’ve gone from 10% market share to 50% just like that.

        Yeah, it may well work when you have 10% market share starting out. What about when you start out with 50% (down from 70%)? And you have upstarts eating away from you and the second biggest competitor? Then, telling half the market to go get buggered might not be the best strategy. You’ve already started out with brand saturation. The most customers were still Gillette’s to lose.

        If you’re a small player, aligning yourself with a lifestyle choice or a political outlook can make sense. If you’re the category giant, you’re putting yourself at risk.

        1. Mad Scientist

          Absolutely. This strategy only makes sense for the smaller competitor who has no other way to distinguish himself.

    4. wdalasio

      “The ‘woke’ business strategy will be big theme in 2019, as that’s where the money is,” Scott Galloway, founder of the business research firm Gartner L2 and a professor of marketing at New York University Stern School of Business, told CNN Business last week.

      Yeah. Gillette has seen it’s market share drop from 70% to less than 50%. Maybe it’s me, but I have a little bit of difficulty putting my faith in their supreme marketing genius.

      1. Tundra

        Bah. ‘Cause Marketing’ has been a thing forever. I mean how many products have that fucking pink ribbon on them? Also, “for every product purchased, we’ll make a donation to the Glibertarian Foundation” or whatever.

        What’s puzzling about this woke shit is that the cause alienates half your audience. A campaign of “kicking puppies is bad” makes more sense than “most men are horrible and need to change. Buy my stuff.”

        1. wdalasio

          A campaign of “kicking puppies is bad” makes more sense than “most men are horrible and need to change. Buy my stuff.”

          Witness the tremendous success of the Budweiser Clydesdale commercials. I challenge almost anyone to watch those things and not at least have a moment’s goodwill toward shitty piss-colored water with a little bit of alcohol in it.

          1. The problem is that we’re living in the society that results from 100 years of Marxist indoctrination about class struggle morphed into every like permutation of race, sex, preference, ethnicity, etc.

            Nothing is universally loved, and everything is problematic these days. The cultural Marxists have made everything controversial, because everything is viewed through a lens of oppression. You can choose to piss off the cultural Marxists or you can choose to piss off the adherents of western culture.

            The Clydesdales are a part of the evil patriarchy (yes, I’m editorializing a bit, so shoot me)

      2. Mad Scientist

        Gillette has seen it’s market share drop from 70% to less than 50%.

        So it turns out Rosie O’Donnell doesn’t buy nearly as many razors as we were lead to believe. Get that marketing guy in here in and fire him!

  47. Suthenboy

    On the discussion of natural rights discussed above:

    Way back in college in the days when we wore onions on our belts they had just started the no smoking rule in certain buildings on campus. I was a freshman and living in a dorm for the first year was a rule so I couldn’t smoke in my room. I would go sit on the back steps to smoke. There was a girl from the adjacent girl’s dorm who would feed the birds every day. She would just toss out a few handfuls of seed onto a small concrete slab and the birds, knowing what time she did that every day, would swarm down onto the seed. I was watching them eat and I noticed that the birds would plop down on their belly and eat whatever they could reach. When they ate all they could reach they would scoot forward a bit and plop back down on their belly and eat more. “Look at those lazy little buggers” I thought. Then it just hit me. Laziness is a survival behavior. Take in as much as you can expending as little as possible. It is why most animals lay around all day doing nothing if they aren’t eating. They will probably get fat but by the time february gets here they will need that fat to get through until early spring. Exactly the same principle applies in economics. That fat is called profit. Expend as little capital possible to make as much income as you can. Get fat because when february (time for replacing/upgrading company infrastructure or expanding or getting sued) gets here, you are going to need it.
    This principle is universal and applies to lots of systems but primarily to life and economics. It is a principle that exists independent of birds or companies but birds and companies that use strategies that comport with it will be successful while those that do not will die. It is easy enough to work backward and see that success is an indication of comporting with natural law.

    Who has been more successful, those systems that recognize and respect natural rights or those that have not?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I dunno. Today, at Davos, some Chinese finance minister told us that democracy isn’t working out too well for the West.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        Sure the wrong person won.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          He meant it more of “Ha! Ha! Look at all your civil strife! We are all united under the Great Helmsman! 呼尔嗨哟!,” reflecting a stark difference in values. Where he sees harmony, we see stagnation. Where he sees chaos, we see the dynamism that powers our engines of innovation.

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            The cold, dispassionate manipulation of a bloodless hand will NEVER keep up with the vigorous gyrations, thrusting, and ultimately climactic bursting forward of the seed of new life that capital democracies produce.

            You can no more hold us back than you can forget the sight of the back of your fathers ballsack rhythmically bouncing off your mother’s ass when you walked in on them when you where three years old.

      2. Winston

        Is that you Thomas Friedman?

        1. Pan Zagloba

          No, it’s Friedman’s cab driver.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Driving Mr. Thomas (Off a Cliff)?

      3. Scruffy Nerfherder

        He’s correct. Unfettered democracy does suck. Guess that’s why we’re not supposed to have it.

  48. Winston

    What does “woke business” say about urbanization, natural rights and depoliticization of life?

    1. Jarflax

      Is this a thesis topic? Or just our final exam in Poli Sci 303?

      1. Winston

        No just something I am interested in. Commercial society, urbanization and natural rights are things libertarian support yet Big Business is appealing to these urbanites by being very political and at times attacking natural rights.

        1. Jarflax

          Urbanization is just a fact of life and inevitable as agriculture became more efficient (calories produced vs. expended), and not a value per se of libertarianism at least in my view. There are tensions between all three things though, and while I was being a smart ass about your post I think it would be a very interesting thesis.

        2. I often wonder whether urbanization would be greatly curtailed in a truly rights-affirming society.

          I think that much of the benefits of urban life and big corporations are due to the curtailment of certain rights.

          1. Jarflax

            Urban life versus what? Rural? Suburban? Cities provide access to markets, amenities, and historically work (the last, which has been the most important, may be waning). The flight to the suburbs came directly from transportation allowing the access to the amenities/work from a few miles further out, but I think a widespread move to the real country is unlikely, although Amazon has definitely increased the possibility.

          2. Urban life versus what? Rural? Suburban?

            Not a rebalancing as much as a shift in what urban areas look like. I think there would be much more 50’s style urban suburbs (tract houses on 1/4 acre lots) and much fewer skyscrapers and apartment complexes.

            In essence, a mix of the “neighborhoods” seen in most large cities in the late 19th century with the suburban phenomenon of the mid 20th century.

          3. Jarflax

            I think we are seeing what you describe already. At least in the Midwest, where there is land to spread to, metro areas sprawl suburbs, satellite towns, and unincorporated villages arise and eventually overlap.

        3. Winston

          I’m not opposed to urbanization per se but I do find it interesting how the classical liberals and libertarians supported urbanization and condemn agrarians yet actually existing urbanites are pretty big statists. How did that happen? What can be done?

          1. Jarflax

            Jefferson was completely the opposite of what you describe. Who are you basing this on?

          2. Winston

            Rothbard, Jeff Tucker, Deirdre McCloskey. Our own Heroic Mulatto doesn’t sound like an agrarian. Reason, CATO, etc.

          3. Jarflax

            HM is an academic, but I don’t recall him being hostile to farmers. Do you mean hostile to the idea that we should move back to the Jeffersonian ideal? I think most of us recognize that that ship sailed with the industrial revolution, and mechanization. We are all much wealthier, but less independent now, but how would you go about putting that genie back in the bottle? Back to the land sounds good, but to get back to that sturdy independence means going back to a much less technological farming style and not 1 person in 100 could handle it. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are getting at.

          4. Winston

            I think most of us recognize that that ship sailed with the industrial revolution, and mechanization. We are all much wealthier, but less independent now, but how would you go about putting that genie back in the bottle?

            I suppose what I am saying is that most libertarians (and most classical liberals) agree that urbanization has been, on the whole, a good thing and the agrarians and other critics of industrialization and urbanization were, mostly(?) wrong. However I do think that the current state of urban areas leads to many questions about how exactly a libertarian society I supposed to work since it doesn’t seem to be causing that in the cities. And no I don’t think that agrarianism is necessarily the solution either.

          5. Jarflax

            I suppose what I am saying is that most libertarians (and most classical liberals) agree that urbanization has been, on the whole, a good thing and the agrarians and other critics of industrialization and urbanization were, mostly(?) wrong. However I do think that the current state of urban areas leads to many questions about how exactly a libertarian society I supposed to work since it doesn’t seem to be causing that in the cities. And no I don’t think that agrarianism is necessarily the solution either.

            I see it as a mixed blessing, but weighted rather heavily toward the blessing side. We absolutely lost a chunk of independence. A family living on, and supported by, their own small farm is independent in a way none of us urban dwellers can ever be. And I am charmed my Jefferson’s ideal, but not so charmed that I want try animal and muscle powered farming. Urban dwellers are more susceptible to pressure to conform to political orthodoxy, especially in the current climate where wearing a hat can lead to your ostracizing, firing, and physical assaults. But pure, pioneer agrarians, while independent, are susceptible to starving after a drought, or freezing to death if the winter out lasts the wood pile.

          6. Winston

            You said this:

            Urbanization is just a fact of life and inevitable as agriculture became more efficient

            Perhaps saying you “support urbanization” might be a bit of a stretch but you are saying it was inevitable and efficient.

          7. Jarflax

            No I am saying mechanized and then industrial farming made urbanization necessary. Not that urbanization was the driver. It wasn’t. If 1 person working the land feeds 5 people you have an agrarian society. If 1 person feeds 5000 people the other 4999 go find something else to do, and other than farming almost every occupation is easier to practice in an area with a lot of other people so we cluster, hence urbanization.

          8. Winston

            No I am saying mechanized and then industrial farming made urbanization necessary.

            Okay then. How about this: libertarians support the “mechanized and then industrial farming” that “made urbanization necessary” but the urbans areas created because of this has not lead to very libertarian urbanites. Am I incorrect to label these urbanites “unlibertarian”? If I am correct then why did industrial farming supported by libertarians lead to such unlibertarian results? What can be done about this?

          9. Jarflax

            why did industrial farming supported by libertarians lead to such unlibertarian results? What can be done about this?

            Oh, well this is why I am a bit of a fatalist. I believe liberty carries the seed of its own demise because liberty will inevitably lead to prosperity, and prosperity historically ( I think inevitably, but I’ll leave it at historically) leads to complacency, degeneracy, decay, or whatever you want to call the loss of toughness and independence needed to protect liberty from the jackals that are always among us trying to get power.

          10. Winston

            I am aware of Jefferson’s view that yeomen farmers are the ideal society. I’m sure there are libertarian agrarians out there but I’m not sure how influential they are. And the left-libertarians have been critical of how exactly our urban commercial society came about.

      2. Winston

        I suppose the reason (err…drink?) is that I’ve been reading quite a bit about the decline of classical liberalism and how all the social, economic and technological changes supported by the classical liberals did not prevent their destruction.

        Oh and the similarities between these writings and “the libertarian moment” especially all of the stuff about the internet and the vaunted weed, Mexicans and ass-sex did not turn out to lead to the libertarian moment? Why is that? I wonder…

  49. The Late P Brooks

    Sober. Statesmanlike.

    Speaking at the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, an annual event where the global elite meet to discuss topics like poverty and economic inequality, former Secretary of State John Kerry issued a one-word message to President Donald Trump: “Resign.”

    Kerry made the comment during his talk on Tuesday, when a reporter asked him what he would say to Trump if the president were sitting next to him.

    “He doesn’t take any of this seriously,” Kerry added, noting that Trump “doesn’t have the ability” to have serious conversations. He also slammed Trump’s decision to abandon the commitments made in the Paris Climate Accords, from which Trump withdrew the U.S. shortly after taking office. “People will die because of the president’s decisions,” he noted.

    ———–

    The audience at Davos clapped and laughed in response to Kerry’s call for Trump’s resignation, signaling that at least some audience members supported the sentiment.

    Okay. The votes are in.

    1. Rhywun

      What, exactly, is that idiot doing there? Besides being a lying, partisan hack? If he thinks any of those poo-bahs take Paris “seriously”, he’s fucking delusional.

    2. Rebel Scum

      “People will die because of the president’s decisions,” he noted.

      Unlike ‘the decisions’ of any other president since the first president… Could you be more specific, sir?

    3. mrfamous

      How many Electoral College votes does Davos have?

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Today, at Davos, some Chinese finance minister told us that democracy isn’t working out to well for the West.

    Sounds legit.

    1. R C Dean

      “Yo, how’s Communism working out for the Tibetans?”

      1. commodious spittoon

        Han Chinese like it just fine, I bet.

  51. Yusef drives a Kia

    Who just got a job? And what giant company is he working for?
    Yippee!!!!!!

    1. Nice work man!

    2. Tundra

      Excellent, Yusef!

    3. R C Dean

      I’m guessing you? Working for Koch Industries?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Close, it’s the home of deplorable shoppers

        1. Creosote Achilles

          Wally World?

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            We have a Winner!!!!!! I’m doing fruits and veggies, meat and deli cases etc. Stock, cull, inventory stuff 4am_ 1pm sweet hours, full time

          2. Tundra

            That’s great Yusef!

            Except for the 4 am part…

          3. Yusef drives a Kia

            I’m up that early anyway, may as well make some money, plus I can day drink

          4. Playa Manhattan

            That’s the best part.

          5. Tundra

            Well there’s that…

          6. R C Dean

            Plus, less “management” for a chunk of your shift.

          7. Playa Manhattan

            Meat???

            The best part is that the best stuff never makes it to the shelves. It comes home with you.

            (not suggesting stealing. use the employee discount)

          8. Spudalicious

            Huh, given your age, I would have thought door greater.?

          9. Spudalicious

            Greeter. Way to step on your own joke Spud.

          10. Not door less than?

        2. Fourscore

          Hope to see you there, I’m the old guy so you’ll recognize me. Congrats, Yusef, if I may be so familiar.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            No problem I saw you greeting people today, long white beard? Old?

          2. Tres Cool

            Congrats YUFUS!

    4. l0b0t

      Huzzah! That’s great to hear sir.

    5. Yusef got a job with Kia?

      1. (in seriousness, congratulations! It has been a long time coming!)

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          That would be cool, thanks much though, to all you Glibs!

    6. Pan Zagloba

      To coin a phrase, W00000T!

    7. Creosote Achilles

      The Amazon thing come through?

      1. Yusef drives a Kia

        Even better, the competition

        1. Pan Zagloba

          AliBaba?

        2. Jarflax

          You work for Alibaba? Dude log out NOW, they will purge you for being here.

          1. Yusef drives a Kia

            The Other competition

    8. DEG

      Congratulations!

    9. Spudalicious

      Suweeetah!!!

    10. wdalasio

      Congratulations!

    11. AlmightyJB

      Congrats?

      1. AlmightyJB

        That was supposed to be a !

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          ?

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        Yes, I’ll make it a sweet gig,to be sure,
        /Soaveism

    12. Nephilium

      Congrats man.

    13. Aus

      Congrats!

    14. Count Potato

      Congrats!

    1. DEG

      While there are a lot of beautiful women in Australia, not every woman in Australia is good looking.

    2. Jarflax

      they all look the same. Is this Chive or some chick’s instagram?

      1. Spudalicious

        It is the same chick.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Who just got a job?

    I give up. Who?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Guess where smartass

      1. Sean

        Starbucks?

        ?

    2. Who got a job, I give up retired.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        Third base!

  53. The Late P Brooks

    Proctor & Gamble?

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Not as woke, probably Trump voters

  54. The Late P Brooks

    Where he sees chaos, we see the dynamism that powers our engines of innovation.

    It may be a canard, but they tell me the Chinese pictogram for “opportunity” is something like a combination of chaos and danger.

  55. The Late P Brooks

    Nice, Yusef. Congrats.

    1. Yusef drives a Kia

      Easiest interview I ever had, they asked, why here, I said to relax, BG check and I’m in,
      BGs are easy for me

      1. Playa Manhattan

        You have a fake ID?

        1. Yusef drives a Kia

          Well my name Is Yusef……….

  56. The Late P Brooks

    Gillette has seen it’s market share drop from 70% to less than 50%. Maybe it’s me, but I have a little bit of difficulty putting my faith in their supreme marketing genius.

    It’s almost as if old, established companies who dominate a market get fat and lazy, and new competitors see an opportunity to nibble away at the edges.

  57. Yusef drives a Kia

    Walmart, stocking the produce and tasty meat products

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      Awesome. Glad to hear it!

    2. straffinrun

      Good for you, Y man. I look forward to the inevitable anecdotes!

    3. Rebel Scum

      tasty meat products

      Band name?

  58. The Late P Brooks

    We have a Winner!!!!!! I’m doing fruits and veggies, meat and deli cases etc. Stock, cull, inventory stuff 4am_ 1pm sweet hours, full time

    Be careful. Do a good job and they’ll want to promote you and give you raises.

    *That’s how it worked when Sam was still around, anyway, or so I was told by friends who worked there.

  59. wdalasio

    I’m not sure if anyone has brought this up, but I almost think Barbasol could have made this in direct response to Gillette.

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      Barbasol. Never heard of it, but from the name its clearly a pokemon. Why is a pokemon making commercials for shaving cream?

      1. Pan Zagloba

        When you evolve out of competitive circuit, you have to find employment where you can.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        I use Barbasol, good product, and thanks Leap..

      3. Spudalicious

        Never heard of Barbasol? What, are you half an Evan old?

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          I shave with a double edge safety razor, a brush I made myself, and today I used Michael’s Wool Fat soap, which has been in production for almost 100 years.

          Get off my lawn.

          1. straffinrun

            I shave with my wife’s hair conditioner. Seriously. Works fine if I got a good blade.

          2. Tres Cool

            Done that.

            Well, not YOUR wife’s conditioner, obvs

          3. a brush I made myself

            Article! Article!

            I want to get a lathe just to make brush handles for myself.

          4. Mad Scientist

            And bristles made from the shaved back hair of orphan condom form models?

          5. A Leap at the Wheel

            When I make the next one I’ll document it.

            For this one, I had an old Omega 63167 where the handle broke, but the knot was still in good shape. I also had a few bits of hardwood hanging around, and decided to fuck around to learn a few things. I did learn a few things, and I’ll be incorporating them into the next one, which I’ll make for reals.

            No lathe required for my particular set up.

          6. wdalasio

            Any suggestions on a good starter set?

          7. A Leap at the Wheel

            Buy in pieces, all these are available on Amazon:
            –Parker 87R Butterfly Open Double Edge Safety Razor
            –Omega 63171 Stripey 100% Pure Badger Shaving Brush
            –Proraso Green Shave Soap and/or Taylor of Old Bond Street in whatever flavor you like
            –Sampler pack of many types of blades

            Remember that its a capitol investment – the razor and brush should last you ~5 years if you never want to upgrade, each blade should last you a week (depending on how manly your face hair is,) and the soap will last longer than a bottle of foam. So the numbers work out to be cheaper in the long run but the up front cost is more.

            Unless you start buying antique razors and start a collection for their own sake. I’ve avoided that, but I did go and buy a very heavy newly made brass razor. But you won’t know if you want light or heavy, long or short handle, large brush or small brush, etc until you give this a go for six months.

          8. Unless you start buying antique razors and start a collection for their own sake.

            I’ve avoided plowing headlong into that collection. I’ll snap up a razor if it is on ebay for less than $20, but I don’t have enough room in my bathroom for the thousand Gillette fatboy variants.

          9. wdalasio

            Thanks

          10. Spudalicious

            That’s the same razor I learned how to shave with. Little pieces of toilet paper stuck to my face afterwords.

    2. Chipwooder

      Proraso or go home

      1. Tundra

        This.

        Green or Red?

        1. Chipwooder

          I’ve never tried Red. Green is my preference, White was OK but lather not as thick.

          1. Tundra

            I’m a green fan as well. The aftershave is also a favorite.

          2. Aus

            What’s the point of aftershave?

          3. Tundra

            Ask anyone who has gotten a staph infection!

            It’s an antiseptic.

        2. Aus

          Green for me.

        3. A Leap at the Wheel

          Green for me too.

        4. Green, as well. Although I don’t use it as much now that I have a few soaps to rotate through.

      2. Shaving Nerdz!!! Grow a beard like real men.

        1. Tundra

          Please. The only thing that makes me look more ridiculous than a beard is a fucking Fedora.

          1. Sean

            *hands Tundra a pork pie hat*

          2. fucking Fedora

            Well, no shit all the hip glibs wear Irish flat caps (Donegal tweed, natch)

          3. Jarflax

            Hats are for the weak. Beards keep your face warm enough!

          4. I think you are wearing your hats wrong.

        2. Tres Cool

          I’m really glad that Grandpa Tres got shunned from the Mennonite Church and married a methodist. Cause I cant grow a beard at all.

      3. wdalasio

        Anyone have any suggestions on a good starter set for wet shaving?

        1. Tundra

          Well, I have a Parker open comb safety razor, but Merkur makes a super nice razor, too. For me, the bigger deal was the blades. I tried a bunch of different ones before I settles on Feathers..

          Learning how to use a safety razor is not difficult, but it does take a little finesse to not nick the shit out of yourself.

          1. It takes finesse and a bit of untraining yourself from cartridge shaving. If you try to shave like it’s a cartridge razor, your bathroom will look like a crime scene.

            I recommend proraso as a good starter soap. It’s easy to lather in the bowl, and you can mess up the lather and still get a good shave.

            I started on a Merkur 34c, but it feels a bit heavy to me now.

            Feathers are nice aggressive blades, but it’s all about your specific skin sensitivity, hair coarseness, and razor aggressiveness. Aggressive razor + feathers + sensitive face makes for a lot of razor burn.

          2. Funny and somewhat related:

            Amazon review for a variety blade pack with alum block (alum block is to close up cuts and prevent razor burn)

            Some blades are good and some lasted 2 days, but you get to try new ones out. The soap was pointless. the stuff doesn’t lather AT ALL. it is the worse soap i have ever used. it is literally like cheap soap and doesn’t protect you for a shave. the walmart razor brand they sell…that soap is amazing compared to this and I don’t mean the premium one. I mean the cheaper soap.

  60. Pan Zagloba

    For those not yet sick of The Current Story, Megan McArdle (a.k.a. gateway drug to Reason for me) has a tweetstorm. I always enjoyed her writing, and I do wish she made it into a blog.

    She’s also writing on WaPo so I have no idea how to get to her articles anymore.

    1. Pan Zagloba

      For those who are sick of it find out where Night Elf dance in World of Warcraft came from.

      Yes, it’s old, but fuck it, it’s a classic and I’m just an amateur, not a professional like Q-Continuum.

      1. Aus

        Never played WoW and never seen this before, so thanks!

        Hot, but still adorable. The best and most rare type of woman.

        1. Pan Zagloba

          Best part of barely legal totty is you can watch it 15 years later and not feel like a dirty old man. Because she’s aged, too!

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        If you time it just right, she danced in time to Phantom in Mortem Tales

      3. Jarflax

        It’s old, I have seen it a hundred times, but young Alizee is always worth 5 minutes.

      4. But Enough About Me

        That’s Alizée, one of the hottest French pop stars from around the turn of the century. After seeing her typical antics on stage, most Frenchmen had semi-permanent boners. I know most of my cousins did. Being a quasi-gentleman, I won’t comment on my own state of tumescence. *squirms uncomfortably in chair*

        My wife saw Alizée gyrating on stage during some Europop thingie and her jaw dropped. And Alizée wanted to be a Bond girl at one time. I totally would’ve gone to see that flick.

        1. Pan Zagloba

           And Alizée wanted to be a Bond girl at one time.

          We finally have proof Gay Mafia runs Hollywood.

          I joke – gay men possess the sense of aesthetics.

        2. After seeing her typical antics on stage, most Frenchmen had semi-permanent boners. I know most of my cousins did. Being a quasi-gentleman, I won’t comment on my own state of tumescence.

          Translation: BEAM can’t get it up any more.

    2. Tundra

      He does not explain why he thought it would have a calming effect to bang a drum in the faces of the boys. This does not seem to be a technique generally recognized by experts in conflict resolution.

      She’s funny.

    3. straffinrun

      WaPo can’t even get through the headline without making fools of themselves again.

    4. commodious spittoon

      Great first tweet, but the followup should have been a single gif.

      1. commodious spittoon

        I’m not going to litigate whether one can wear a MAGA hat without being a horrible racist. It’s pointless; no one changes their mind. So let’s just grant, arguendo, that Red Hat Bad.

        Heh.

  61. straffinrun

    My favorite podcast of the series to date. The designer of The Monitor, Erickson, sounds like a total shitlord. Embittered from getting screwed over by FedGov decades before, he gets a request to build an ironclad. Does it, but tells all the naysayers in govt to suck his dick.

    https://mises.org/library/battle-ironclads-part-4-building-monitor

  62. Chipwooder

    Shitting Bull now has WaPo working frantically to cover for him.

    “I have a relative here who said he’d lead the way and scout ahead for us,” Phillips said in the article, which describes a protest at the Standing Rock Sioux reservation in North Dakota. “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.”

    Nelson said that Phillips’s comments at Standing Rock were taken out of context and that Phillips actually was referring to the work they were doing at the time on the reservation.

    If he was referring to “the work they were doing at the time on the reservation”, then what the fuck was he babbling about “Vietnam times” for, and what does he mean by “that was my role”? Phillips was cagey. He never came right out and said “I’m a Vietnam veteran”. He used the “Vietnam times” weasel words many times to strongly hint that he was without actually saying it, so he had the out of saying “Hey, I never actually said I went to Vietnam”. Of course, he does have a photo of a “Vietnam War Veteran” pin on his Facebook page. Maybe that’s for some other protest on the rez?

    1. straffinrun

      I’ve seen him quoted in the past as saying directly that he’s a Vietnam vet. No time to find it know, but I trusted the source.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          He directly said he was a Vietnam vet on CNN. Twice.

          1. Chipwooder

            Hadn’t seen that one. There ya go.

        2. Fourscore

          I came back from VN in ’68 and ’71. I was never insulted or spit upon, not once, ever. Went through the SF airport both times. Everyone was probably too wrapped up in getting to and from where they coming from or they were going to. While those things may have happened (not to Ol’ Nate though) they were infrequent, at best

    2. Playa Manhattan

      When I’m describing my professional experience, the first thing I mention is a place I’ve never been. Was I not supposed to do that? Was I not allowed?

      1. straffinrun

        You don’t believe a POC you SOB so GFY LOL P’WND!

        1. MikeS

          He’s FUBAR now!

    3. Chipwooder

      from the Ace of Spades comments…EL OH EL

      From the Halls of Maytagzuma
      To the Shores of Whirlpoolie
      We will fix the nations coolant systems
      In the Air on Land and Sea
      First to fix with precious Freon
      Just to keep our condensers clean
      We are Proud to Claim the Title
      Of HVAC Fixin’ Marines

    4. Rhywun

      You’d think they’d just ignore the ‘Nam or not aspect. It’s not exactly critical to their li’l Hitlers narrative.

  63. Mojeaux

    Yusef!!!! *snoopy dance*

  64. straffinrun

    As this furor over the Covington kids starts to die down, rest assured the deep in the pits of Twitter something even more ridiculous is bubbling its way to the surface. Exciting, isn’t it?

    1. Jarflax

      Japan is not immune from hysterical political movements. And they tend to do bad things to ex pats, so don’t think you can sit there eating oddly flavored snacks and laughing at us!

      1. Chipwooder

        What, you think sweet potato Kit-Kats are odd?

        1. Jarflax

          No, I think wasabi kit kat is odd. Sweet potato is just unusual. You don’t hit unnatural until you get octopus ink flavoring in your candy.

          1. Mad Scientist

            Octopus ink is surely more natural than Yellow #5.

          2. Jarflax

            would you accept depraved? bizarre? against the laws of God? 🙂

          3. Playa Manhattan

            You’re dead to me.

            If you ever reach for a Mountain Dew in my fridge, expect to get slapped.

          4. straffinrun

            Try the squid ink pasta and I’m not kidding. It’s delicious.

          5. Tundra

            Seppie al nero con polenta is amazing.

          6. straffinrun

            Yep, and you get to make funny faces with your teeth all blacked out. “Look at me! I’m an Indian elder!”

          7. MikeS

            Ha-ha! I laughed too hard at that one.

        2. Sean

          Matcha kit Kat are yummy

      2. straffinrun

        Mellow as yellow for looong periods of time followed by short periods of slaughtering all gaijin. I just hope I have the timing right.

        1. straffinrun

          “Japan is a country which is – even now – extremely homogenous. The issue of race and racism, therefore, is perhaps not as obvious to people on a daily basis.”

          BBC wants Japan to get woke. They’ll be disappointed, cuz mass immigration ain’t happening.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            I am, however, willing to contribute to the “hafu” problem.

          2. straffinrun

            You forgot the “new” before “hafu”.

        2. Nishikori doesn’t look particularly Japanese there, either.

        3. Rhywun

          When an Australian cartoonist depicted Osaka as a blonde-haired, white-skinned woman in September 2018, the controversy took weeks to die down.

          “We tried to fan the flames a little longer, but people got sick of our shit. Thank God this fresh outrage came along.”

        4. grrizzly

          The Japanese have perceived themselves as kind of white for a long time. I attended an exhibition of the Japanese art/propaganda during the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-05. The Japanese soldiers and sailors routinely had more European features than the Russians. The exhibition was organized more than 10 (probably 14) years ago by the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. And this race thing was pointed out by the curators. I wonder if they dare bring it up now.

          Btw, MFA has a stellar Japanese art collection–Japanese museums borrow stuff from Boston for their own special exhibitions!

  65. Chipwooder

    I swear, I need to stop reading this kind of ridiculous shit before I give myself a headache. Vox interviews retarded college professor about the Covington kids and, among other howlers, we get this:

    What’s problematic from this larger incident, if you take [it] from the moment this goes viral to now, is that we easily dismiss things that need to be discussed. People are trying to find holes in the original narrative, and as soon as they find those holes, then that gives us permission to not discuss what we need to be discussing.

    In other words, the fact that the entire story was horseshit doesn’t mean that this clown shouldn’t berate children for…..well, just because.

    1. Jarflax

      The professor oozes smugness as he demonizes a kid for having a facial expression in a tense moment that the professor regards as smug. I wonder if I can learn Japanese and go join straffin?

      1. Tres Cool

        Just get one of those funny hats, and mix-up your L’s and R’s. You’ll be a hit in Tokyo.

        1. Jarflax

          mix-up your L’s and R’s. You’ll be a hit

          So you want me to do the old look the wrong way and eat an oncoming car huh?

    2. Rebel Scum

      The holes in the original narrative are the proof that there is nothing that we need to be discussing, other than the shear lack of honesty blatant propaganda of the msm.

  66. The Late P Brooks

    People are trying to find holes in the original narrative, and as soon as they find those holes, then that gives us permission to not discuss what we need to be discussing.

    Just because this story I’m telling you is complete and utter bullshit, that doesn’t mean there are no racists. Now shut up and listen to my lecture about racism, you racist.