Wednesday Morning Links

“That’s a shame.”
-nobody

I suppose I could have said Friday and nobody would have really noticed since most of you are looking at the end of the work week. But it’s still Wednesday and I like to keep things simple.  Like Stephen F Austin did last night in beating Duke at Cameron. That. Was. Awe-some! elsewhere on the basketball court, Kansas, Michigan State, Auburn, Colorado and Dayton were big winners.

YNWA

In hockey, your winners were Boston (who routed the Habs), Chicago, and THE MINNESOOOOOOOOOOODA WIIIIIIIIIIIILD!!!!!!! Man, I love posting that for our frozen fans from Minn-NoDak.  Oh, and across the pond, your UCL results of note were Juventus over Athletico, Real drawing PSG, Man City drawing Shaktar, Spuds winning and Bayern quietly thumping everybody they play. Some good matches on tap today, with Liverpool-Napoli topping the list. Enjoy it, those of you already checked out for the week (like me!).

Thermometer meddler Anders Celsius was born on this day.  So were kung-fu legend Bruce Lee, guitar legend Jimi Hendrix, non-scientist Bill Nye, and actor Curtis Armstrong. There were others as well, but none I felt like mentioning.

Alright, on to…the links!

An artist’s depiction of Hunter Biden giving a presentation at a Burisma board meeting.

This has me hopping mad. Seriously? In Florida, of all places.

Sometimes. I can’t improve a headline. Like now.

I can’t imagine how tough life is for these kids. No, seriously. I can’t imagine it at all.

My new hero, Donovan Stewart.

The hero we both want and need. Just an awesome story all the way around.

Tony Robbins sues Buzzfeed. I hope he does the same to them as Hulk Hogan did to Gawker.

Remember, when your dog licks you, he was probably licking his own ass recently. Yikes.

This isn’t one of those “hot teacher bangs students” stories. Not even close.

Enjoy a great song from a generation of great songs. Don’t agree? Fight me.

Comments

550 responses to “Wednesday Morning Links”

  1. Mad Scientist

    Fake frogs. Fake learning.

    1. robc

      High school bio is a waste of good frogs.

      Honestly, I am okay with this story.

      1. Mad Scientist

        Everything about high school is a waste. I completely agree with you.

      2. Fourscore

        Real Frogs are icky. Oh, you mean the little green ones? Yeah, they are icky too.

        1. The Poison Dart Frogs are nice to look at, but I wouldn’t want them to touch me.

          1. Mad Scientist

            Too spicy for you, huh?

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Couldn’t they use iguanas?

    3. bacon-magic

      I was in a fancy biology class…we just did stupid fruit fly experiments.

  2. Sean

    That’s peak Florida man. Check out the vehicle mounted air conditioner.

    1. The only way that interview could have been better is if he’d said “and I popped that bumbaclot blam-blam-blam.”

  3. Timeloose

    Sloopy, a truly great song from my favorite 80’s band.

  4. PieInTheSky

    Stephen F Austin is a silly name for a basketball team

    1. No, “Duke” is.

      Fuck Duke and fuck Dick Vitale for good measure.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Fuck Duke – any hot women there? How the average and/or median Duke girl

          1. ::polite applause::

        1. That depends. How do you feel about Asian women?

          1. PieInTheSky

            Positive really

          2. Then you’re in luck.

          3. blackjack

            So, like UCLA, the University of California with Lots of Asians?

        2. robc

          University of New Jersey-Durham.

          So, no, the average is poor.

        3. Bobarian LMD

          Big honker, but she made up for it in enthusiasm…

    2. Slammer

      Stone Cold Steve Austin with the Stunner!

      Bah gawd, bah gawd, bah gawd!!! Carnage!!!!

  5. TARDIS

    /

    hunter-biden-accused-of-smoking-crack-in-vip-strip-club-near-white-house

    Let’s see what the Bee does with this….

    1. PieInTheSky

      if he were black he’d be in trouble, this shows the structural racism

      1. Count Potato

        “Last week, a court-ordered DNA test showed that Biden fathered a child with an Arkansas woman.”

        He smokes crack, and has side kids, you racist!

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          I’ve changed my mind, I want Joe to be President just so we get more Hunter shenanigans.

          1. AlexinCT

            Booze, Blow, and Bitchez in the WH!

      2. Bobarian LMD

        Or he might get elected mayor.

        “Bitch set me up!”

    2. Cy

      Tomorrow Hunter will announce his candidacy to become the Mayor of Baltimore. He’s officially qualified.

      1. Nephilium

        Maybe he could update this classic PSA.

      2. TARDIS

        Haven’t the last 3 presidents been cokeheads?

      3. Gdragon

        He is a night owl.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      In his defense, who hasn’t hit the Ready Rock while sticking a Hryvnia in a stripper’s g-string?

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        *sheepishly raises hand*

      2. Bobarian LMD

        I hryvnia == .042 US$

        Diamond Jim Biden.

  6. Slammer

    Alex Jones warned us about these False Frogs, maybe the FBI or the Mossad is behind them

    1. blackjack

      So, even the frogs get Realdolls ? Next is dogs with authentic clamping action?

  7. Rufus the Monocled

    My neighbours listen to ‘Electric’ with me even if they don’t want to.

    1. Timeloose

      The only tape I wore out 3 times in HS.

    2. Mad Scientist

      Get a copy of the Manor Sessions. Your neighbors will enjoy it even more.

  8. Timeloose

    Hunter Biden sounds like the real George W caricature from the 80’s.

    1. AlexinCT

      I heard that character played by Doogie Howser in those Harold and Kumar movies was based on Hunter Biden. At least when it comes to the booze, blow, and having to pay for the bitchez.

  9. PieInTheSky

    I can’t imagine how tough life is for these kids. No, seriously. I can’t imagine it at all.

    I can soon see calls to bring back conscription or something, give em something to actually be anxious about

    1. blackjack

      The more I find out about them, the more I think they do actually need counseling.

      1. Fourscore

        Starting at home.

        1. AlexinCT

          With the parents. Can you call fuckwads that produce these sorts of quislings parents? It’s obvious they failed miserably at that task.

    2. Funny you say that, seeing as many of the Dem candidates are calling for a mandatory “public service” term for young people.

      1. PieInTheSky

        They should make the Incel Satisfaction Corps. to prevent violence

      2. AlexinCT

        To be properly prepared they will have these instructional camps to, erm, teach these kids how to believe and behave…. Those that fail will be sent to other more advanced camps with signs that say “Arbeit Macht Frei” or whatever the Soviet equivalent was over the gates, I am sure.

    3. PieInTheSky

      Here is another reason for it ]

      Global trends in insufficient physical activity among adolescents: a pooled analysis of 298 population-based surveys with 1·6 million participants

      https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(19)30323-2/fulltext

  10. CPRM

    I suppose I could have said Friday and nobody would have really noticed since most of you are looking at the end of the work week.

    Ha! It was Friday on Sunday, unbeknownst to me at the time. Now it’s all Saturdays.

    1. Mad Scientist

      This is the sort of campaign promise I can get behind.

    2. Nephilium

      /starts the search…

      You know what… no. I’m not going to link the Slackers Every Day is Sunday When You’re Unemployed again.

    3. hayeksplosives

      Always look on the bright side…

  11. PieInTheSky

    This one is for the lady glibs

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    97.96$ is not a lot to pay for a 30 foot energy field

    1. What the actual fuck.

      1. PieInTheSky

        You save: 24%

    2. Mad Scientist

      Only 28 shopping days left! Order now!

    3. TARDIS

      What a great stocking stuffer.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        It’s not supposed to go in your sock.

        1. AlexinCT

          Erm… Next you will be talking about throwing hotdogs down hallways…

          1. Something something eggs down cattle chutes.

      2. R C Dean

        Oh, bravo.

    4. Jarflax

      Get your Tachyonized Yoni Eggs, they’re going fast.

      1. pan fried wylie

        “Delivered Yesterday if you order within 14h27m.”

    5. Bobarian LMD

      At 30 feet, you’re gonna make the office Christmas Party one to remember!

    1. The Last American Hero

      Smokin but not thicc, except for those lips. Is she having an allergic reaction or something?

  12. Rufus the Monocled

    Evergreen students storm city hall.

    I feel bad for these people. They have some kind of mental illness. They do need help but in the way they they think.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMmKC6gKkw

    1. l0b0t

      Fat Southron mayor, sweating through seersucker suit – “Sheriff Connah? Sheriff Connah! Bull, would y’all be so kind as to escort these here confused young folks offen these here premiseees?”

    2. straffinrun

      That is the greatest show on Earth. I want tickets.

    3. Well that gives me confidence in our future.

      1. l0b0t

        If you haven’t done so, check out that poster’s series on the college. The two in this video are some of the ringleaders of the whole school kerfuffle.

        1. AlexinCT

          You are telling me that there are people following these two idiots willingly? Not compelled because of bribes, payment, blackmail, or some other nefarious reason to keep them engaged? They are doing this shit of their own free will?

          You know, I am wondering if I need to reconsider my stance on eugenics and the need to clean the gene pool of these sorts of destructive entities and the idiots that glom on to them, after revelations like this…

    4. Count Potato

      How is that school still open?

      1. straffinrun

        You guys don’t understand high quality entertainment. Better than 95% of movies released this year.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        According to Benjamin Boyce, inscriptions (subscriptions?) are way down.

      3. The Last American Hero

        Publicly funded.

  13. CPRM

    This Thanksgiving when you’re hiding from your family, remember Glibs is here for you. New cartoon tomorrow at 10am Packer time.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Dude, those You Betcha guys have awesome videos. Thanks for posting yesterday!

  14. Pat

    This has me hopping mad. Seriously? In Florida, of all places.

    I don’t have a problem with it in principle, but what do you bet me there was a fat contract for the provider of the synthetic frogs involved?

    1. Honestly, I don’t either. I just wanted to make a pun.

    2. CPRM

      If your going to use fake, why not dissect the human body? I mean, it’s not like frogs were used because we need to know about their specific anatomy.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Then you’d have kids dissecting real people. Synthetic dissection is a gateway procedure to real dissection.

    3. straffinrun

      The French are making sex dolls?

    4. blackjack

      This story really has legs.

      1. Count Potato

        Wait until Swiss jumps in here.

      2. Tripacer

        He toad you, no puns allowed.

        1. He’ll croak when he sees this thread.

          1. These puns are ribbeting his attention.

  15. PieInTheSky

    Metal thieves stole group of bronze statues weighing 5 tonnes in Bruges

    https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/79886/metal-thieves-stole-group-of-bronze-statues-weighing-5-tonnes-in-bruges/

    The police have serious indications that a Romanian gang stole the bronze statue group that stood at the fountain on ‘t Zand square in the centre of Bruges for many years.
    The gang is reportedly responsible for a whole series of metal thefts in our country.

  16. This has me hopping mad. Seriously? In Florida, of all places.

    Science is moving ahead in leaps and bounds.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    “So I thought you are you going to kill me so now I have to act quickly because I am trained,” he said. “You know I have a security license, I have a G license and I have a state firearms license and a concealed weapons permit and I have a gun and I am a member of the NRA.”

    Probably not a Warren voter. Damn fugitive from the plantation.

    1. hayeksplosives

      I hope the NRA contacts this guy and hands him some cash.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        They’ll probably revoke his membership.

  18. Pat

    Trump to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists

    The US will legally designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups, President Donald Trump says.

    The move would enable a wider scope of US action. Mr Trump also said he had told Mexico the US was ready to “go in and clear out” the cartels.

    In response Mexico’s foreign minister said his country would not allow any “violation of national sovereignty”.

    Earlier this month Mr Trump vowed to “wage war on the drug cartels” after a deadly attack on US citizens in Mexico.

    1. PieInTheSky

      That’ll fix things

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Now we can invade Mexico as part of the Global War on Terror ™.

        1. PieInTheSky

          Get the weed and ass sex directly at the source

          1. AlexinCT

            Cutting out the middleman is worth the effort?

        2. Blackjack Pershing was unavailable for comment.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Winfield Scott remains strangely quiet on the subject as well.

        3. CPRM

          They don’t even have any gazelles to interrogate!

        4. Homple

          Mexico is the one country it would sort of be in our actual interest to invade and nation build.

      2. l0b0t

        It could… Stop laughing, hear me out. Mexico should just be annexed. If FedGov is going to stick its/our (tax-paying collective) nose in that hornet’s nest, it should just go ahead and do it right.

        1. As long as they are held as a territory. We don’t need 160 million socialist-leaning voters.

          1. Pat

            Puerto Rico 2: Electric Boogaloo

          2. Bobarian LMD

            That’s the problem with Mexico…

            Too many mexicans.

            *Is what Irish would say.*

        2. Nephilium

          So another territory?

        3. ChipsnSalsa

          I’d rather have Greenland.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I’m with Chips on this one.

          2. Rebel Scum

            ^

        4. l0b0t

          Territory, or maybe protectorate?

    2. Enough About Palin

      “In response Mexico’s foreign minister said his country would not allow any “violation of national sovereignty”.”

      Does that include violating our national sovereignty?

  19. Rebel Scum

    “It’s an incredible struggle, to be honest,” said Jamie Davidson, associate vice president for student wellness at the University of Nevada Las Vegas, which has 11 licensed counselors for 30,000 students. “It’s stressful on our staff and our resources. We’ve increased it, but you’re never going to talk to anyone in the mental health field who tells you we have sufficient resources.”

    Alternatively we can stop teaching children to be such precious, sensitive snowflakes.

    1. CPRM

      Well, time to close up shop, they conquered UNLV.

      *A heart warming montage of all the places on campus I passed out flashes before my eyes as a sad song plays*

    2. Pat

      If you need counseling to attend a borderline diploma mill on the doorstep of the party capital of America you should just off yourself tbqh.

      1. straffinrun

        Runnin’ Rebels turn into Fuckin’ Feebles.

        1. ::sits on bench biting towel::

          1. straffinrun

            Tell us what you think of Duke, Tark.

          2. AlexinCT

            They could be biting pillows?

          3. egould310

            Classic

    3. PieInTheSky

      Stoicism and having some semblance of control over your feelings is toxic masculinity

    1. Rhywun

      Paranoia involves intense thoughts and feelings around persecution and conspiracies and includes symptoms like irrational mistrust and suspicion, difficulty with forgiveness and a preoccupation with hidden motives.

      See also: klimate krisis and identity politics. It’s all related. TDS is just one symptom of the mass hysteria that’s sweeping the western world.

  20. Rebel Scum

    “I am from Kingstontown in Jamaica,” he said, “and I am not going to go out like a punk. So I emptied my Glock in his chest. This man tried to get in my van while I was sleeping and he was surprised to see what I did.”

    Well this wouldn’t have happened if neither of you had a gun. ///commonsenseguncontrolnow

    1. PieInTheSky

      Should have had had insurance instead

      1. Tejicano

        He did. He had the best kind of insurance.

  21. l0b0t

    I’m about to go chaperone my son’s kindergarten class for a field trip to see a Broadway Junior production of Schoolhouse Rock! (G/d have mercy on us all). I made us both Elvis lunches – fried peanut-butter and banana sammiches. Ozy’s article last night is fantastic, and a great example of second order effects that folk so often disregard. If you have not yet done so, please go read it.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      I hope there’s some slices of bacon in those sandwiches.

    2. Ozymandias

      Thank you, I0bot. Kind of you. The next chapter gives examples of more “first order effects” (IYKWIM). But yes, the Air Force lost a ton of experienced transport pilots because of the vaccine. Then lied about it.

  22. PieInTheSky

    Imagine thinking food isn’t a human right. Like, what the heck did we build civilization for then? Why did we bother industrializing agriculture? So we could make enough food for everyone only to let people starve anyway?

    https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1199439943291953153

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      This is your brain on crack.

      1. AlexinCT

        Did a bag of drugs drop out of that crack?

    2. kbolino

      Imagine happing such vapid and inane thoughts on every aspect of life constantly. It must be a tiring existence, perpetually wondering why people accomplished things you couldn’t for reasons you don’t understand.

      1. kbolino

        happing? wtf? I meant having…

        1. Bobarian LMD

          Fapping works too.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That’s a lot of “we” from an internet philosopher

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        The “royal we” you can’t expect him to be making the tractors, developing new crop breeds, figuring out best growing practices and waxing philosophical on the internet.

        1. kbolino

          All of which is apparently pointless because somebody, somewhere is still starving. He won’t rest until everybody starves, equally.

        2. JR Robble Dobbs

          Is it wrong that I read that in Jeff Bridges voice?

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            That’s the voice I typed it in as.

    4. Tejicano

      “what the heck did we build civilization for then?”

      Who is this “we” there?

      1. PieInTheSky

        we is generally the Central Committee of the Party

    5. hayeksplosives

      The comments send me into despair

    6. Jarflax

      Imagine thinking Communism is a way to fight against famine.

    7. Rebel Scum

      It’s almost like rights are arbitrary decided and we decide the moral value of people depending on what they consider to be a right.

      For example, I personally have a low opinion of the morals of those who consider financial profit a bigger right than food is.

      It’s almost like you are definitely a brainwashed moron. You have a right to consume, but you do not have a right to coerce someone to produce or procure for you.

  23. The Late P Brooks

    you’re never going to talk to anyone in the mental health field who tells you we have sufficient resources.

    No shit? Next you’ll tell me the police chiefs want more “cops on the beat”.

    1. Fourscore

      The Police Unions agree

  24. The Late P Brooks

    Like, what the heck did we build civilization for then?

    I don’t honestly know. I’m beginning to think it was all a horrible mistake.

    1. CPRM

      “Many were increasingly of the opinion that they’d all made a big mistake coming down from the trees in the first place, and some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no-one should ever have left the oceans.” HP Welles – Dyanetics

    2. AlexinCT

      I am starting to see the same Brooksie

  25. Pat

    Do men and women lose weight differently?

    Professor Ian Macdonald admits there are differences in weight loss between men and women, though.

    “For the same body mass index, men will tend to have a greater fat-free mass (muscle) and a smaller fat mass or proportional fat mass. That’s because of the effect of sex hormones on body fat mass as well as fat distribution.”

    Because of this “Women generally find it slightly harder to lose weight”, according to Dr Tom Little, a nutrition specialist and founder of Colour-Fit. “Men have more testosterone and are genetically designed to have a higher percentage of muscle and less fat. Muscle mass has a higher metabolism than fat and therefore the more muscle you have the more calories you can burn, even when not exercising. However, most studies show that while men initially lose weight faster, differences even out over time.”

    Fortunately all of these biological differences disappear when a guy on estrogen takes to the field of sport.

    1. PieInTheSky

      But female fat is generally healthier as it is more subcutaneous and less visceral.

      I knew a girl in high-school who worked hard all summer to lose weight, she was happy everyone was complementing her, until one guy said something hey you look different. I know you tits got smaller.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Once, as a young manager in an engineering firm I had two employees, one female and one male in my office.

        Female employee: “I’ll be needing sometime off. I’m pregnant.”

        Male employee: “I knew it! I knew your tits were bigger!”

        Me: “I’m going to pretend I never heard that and I’m going to beg you to not to file an HR complaint.”

        1. PieInTheSky

          I have a recently pregnant friend who was happy at the point of pregnancy when her tits were bigger but her belly was not to visible.

          1. AlexinCT

            She was able to pick up nicer looking dudes?

        2. When Marvel’s Age of Ultron came out, I asked the kids if Scarlett Johannsen was pregnant. Turns out she was. One of the daughters asked me how I knew, since I’m notoriously disinterested in the personal lives of Hollywood types.

          But Scarlett Johannsen’s tits are something I am interested in, and they were clearly bigger.

          1. Fourscore

            Experience is a good teacher

          2. hayeksplosives

            Experiences vary. My sister was quite flat (A cup) and then got preggers. Yeah, they grew, but after nursing two kids they flattened back out and resembled 2 fried eggs hanging on a nail.

            When her first marriage broke up (his fault entirely, BTW) she insisted on their joint paying for a boob job for her.

            Looks nice, C cup, but after having lived with her for 19 years, it still strikes me as out of place on her.

          3. AlexinCT

            Did you share your wisdom with the daughter? Your post is unclear if you did….

          4. I did. My kids are all adults.

          5. Fourscore

            My kids are adults but not grown up (yet)

          6. Bobarian LMD

            They never really do.

            I haven’t.

  26. PieInTheSky

    Did industrialization lift all boats? I spent yesterday cleaning and harmonizing data on 10,000 Swedish convicts to shed some light on how disadvantaged groups fared during the Industrial Revolution. (1/9)

    https://twitter.com/bergerthor/status/1198893751168573440

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      In today’s news, progress occurs unevenly across different populations.

      1. leon

        Did industrialization help the 10,000 criminals? Huh? Huh? Did you stop to think about how it might have affected those poor souls who just don’t want to live by the rules of non-violent society?

        1. PieInTheSky

          That is not the point. The criminals are a proxy for lower class people in a time when accurate records for them are not kept. No need to get snarky about everything.

      2. PieInTheSky

        It don’t hurt to do historical analysis once in a while

    2. Pat

      It seems like some extremely broad extrapolations were made based on a somewhat limited set of data, on a variable that itself is by no means a perfect measure of prosperity.

      1. PieInTheSky

        True. Still. Its in one piece of data

        1. Pat

          It’s definitely interesting. I fear it may morph from an interesting but limited examination into somebody’s eventual PhD and academic career though, as these things so often do.

      2. AlexinCT

        They had something to prove, and found the data to prove it. That’s what this sounds like to me….

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      Criminals convicted between 1826-1939 were drawn mainly from working-class groups, while farmers were heavily underrepresented: (3/9)

      Because they were to busy, you know farming, to commit crimes?

      1. CPRM

        Fewer police in rural areas, as well as presumably fewer laws.

  27. The Late P Brooks

    The Guardian rides to the rescue of democracy yet again

    You know what else just screams democracy? A presidential candidate owning an eponymous and influential news service that has been barred from criticising him. On Sunday, the editor-in-chief of Bloomberg News sent a memo to the company’s 2,700 journalists telling them they were not to do any investigative stories on Bloomberg’s campaign. While Bloomberg outlets will cover the day-to-day of the presidential contest, they will not be conducting in-depth investigations into their boss. Nor will they investigate his Democratic rivals. They will, however, continue to engage in journalism vis-a-vis Trump’s campaign.

    It is astounding that a mainstream news organisation has effectively said it will scrutinise Trump but give the Democratic contenders an easy ride. It’s also one of the best things that could have happened to America’s incompetent incumbent. It plays right into Trump’s narrative that the crooked mainstream media are out to get him and I imagine he will milk this for all it’s worth.

    They will, however, continue to engage in journalism vis-a-vis Trump’s campaign. You say journalism, I say smear campaign, but let’s not quibble. They said it explicitly. It’s their sacred duty to save us from Trump, by hook or by crook.

    “Trump, without evidence, claims coverage is one-sided and biased against him.”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Christ, even Bezos doesn’t do that shit.

      1. leon

        Because Bloomberg is the worst kind of millionare, not only is he rich and powerful, he is insecure.

        1. Jarflax

          He’s a gnome.

    2. Pat

      It’s also one of the best things that could have happened to America’s incompetent incumbent. It plays right into Trump’s narrative that the crooked mainstream media are out to get him and I imagine he will milk this for all it’s worth.

      Oh, I suppose you’re going to try to make something out of THIS!

    3. hayeksplosives

      I avoid political stuff on Facebook but I shared this.

      1. commodious spittoon

        You don’t bother with straight reporting when Literally Hitler is in office.

  28. leon

    CFP Ratings. Not much of a suprise.

    Lots of the ESPN guys are saying “Alabama is just a placeholder” for a PAC12 or BIG 12 champion to beat but i’m not sure i buy that. I know the committe says it doesn’t “Project” but it makes no sense to have someone be a known placeholder. At least Georgia could ostensibly hold that position if they beat LSU. Alabama, according to the pundits, has no way of maintaining their spot, so then why give it to them in the first place? No i think the year will end with Alabama either in that spot or in #4 when Georgia looses to LSU.

    1. leon

      I’ll say one thing that suprised people (though not me so much) was how far Oregon fell. Personally i think it was kinda deserved. They were supposed to be the #1 Team in the PAC 12, and to have ASU come and stomp them was embarrassing and tragic.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        It’s like stock-pricing: the latest trades are emotional and no reflection of underlying financials.

        So it’s over-shooting in both directions: they’re seldom as good as folk think( OverRated!!); they’re seldom as bad as folk think. Most of the voters would have lost it all in tulip bulbs. It’s homerism and confirmation bias all the way down.

        1. I’ll change my thoughts on Bama if they happen to beat somebody with a pulse this year. Until then, they should be squarely on the outside looking in.

          1. Don Escaped Texas

            As well you might

            I’m just characterizing the sociology in play . . . of voters. It’s mostly like your apt characterization of identity politics yesterday.

            I’m on record (yesterday): Bama’s not in any final four that makes sense to me.

    2. The committee finally made a statement about SEC schools playing shitbags the next to last week of the season.
      And I do think Bama is a placeholder. They deliberately moved the Big 12 and PAC 12 schools closer so they could move them up ahead of Bama after the last “data points” happen with the CCGs.

      Bama has to hope LSU beats UGA, Oregon wins the PAC 12, Oklahoma loses this week and then beats Baylor again. And hope OSU doesn’t beat TTUN and then lose to Minnesota.

      1. The Last American Hero

        OSU could beat both of those teams with an 11 player roster. Partially because they are the real deal and partially because the Harbaughs are overrated and the Gophers play in the JV division.

        1. I’m trying to maintain my confidence and worry about the game. It’s been tough. We look to be that much better than TTUN based on results against quality same opponents.
          And Day seems to get it when it comes to that rivalry’s importance.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      Say what you will about thievery, that takes some stones to do.

      1. No, sometimes it just takes metal.

      2. Fourscore

        A real gem of a robbery

    2. leon

      Remember that time we found out that the Notre-Dame Cathedral was uninsured because it was Owned by the State? Why do you insure things when you have the best insurance in the world: Homo Bovinus “Tax Cattle”

  29. PieInTheSky

    Miley Cyrus Shows Off Her New Modern Mullet After Mom Tish Cuts Her Hair With Kitchen Scissors

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/celebrity/miley-cyrus-shows-off-her-new-modern-mullet-after-mom-tish-cuts-her-hair-with-kitchen-scissors/ar-BBXnTFC

    And on this note, I’m calling this work day done. Off to the old Underground train.

    1. Pie is Harriet Tubman?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Pie is Julia Roberts

  30. The Late P Brooks

    There has been a lot of noise recently about how big tech’s untrammeled power and unethical practices represent an existential danger to our democracy. While that criticism is certainly valid, there may have been rather too much scapegoating of Facebook et al and not enough scrutiny of traditional media. If we want a truly independent press, we are going to have to do something about the fact that a small number of billionaires own a worryingly large chunk of the media landscape. There are the old media moguls such as Rupert Murdoch, of course, but there’s also a new wave of billionaires busily buying up news companies – often in the name of philanthropy. Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. Biotech billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong owns the LA Times. The founder of Salesforce, Marc Benioff, owns Time magazine. Laurene Powell Jobs, Steve Job’s ex-wife, controls 70% of the Atlantic. Boston billionaire John Henry owns – alongside Liverpool FC – the Boston Globe. The entrepreneur Joe Manuseto bought the Fast Company and Inc magazines. These billionaires may profess to having the most benevolent of intentions but, as we’re seeing with Bloomberg, that doesn’t prevent them from having a scary amount of influence.

    What we need is a printing press in every garage, to give a voice to the little guy.

    What’s that, you say? Hundreds, if not thousands of new voices have been given a platform and a means of disseminating information and opinion by the internet? Those people are all crazy bigots, and we must do everything in our power to silence them.

    1. leon

      There has been a lot of noise recently about how big tech’s untrammeled power and unethical practices represent an existential danger to our democracy

      Because people will read what they want? You know before the Internet there were only newspapers, and people had to read the hard truth. Never were there competing newspapers publishing their own versions of the truth, the good people wouldn’t stand for it.

    2. If we want a truly independent press, we are going to have to do something about the fact that a small number of billionaires own a worryingly large chunk of the media landscape.

      Funny how these fuckers always know the solution but never put their money where their mouth is and open competing ventures.

    3. TARDIS

      Hmmm, remember these charts?

    4. Pope Jimbo

      Bloomberg saying that his media operation can only publish negative things about Trump is fine, right? I mean, that is only right.

  31. Count Potato

    “For instance, here’s an interview with one of the few doctors in the U.S. who performs abortions in the last three months of pregnancy, in which she says, “a large percentage of our patients had no idea that they were pregnant.” Here’s more from her comments:

    They think they just got pregnant. They have no idea they’re in their 24th week. So they make an appointment for an abortion, and it takes a few weeks, and they have their ultrasound and find out that they’re at 27 weeks, which is too far for an abortion anywhere. So then what happens? They either give up or have a baby, or they go on the Internet and they find us.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-there-is-such-a-thing-as-elective-late-term-abortion/amp/

    I don’t believe that. Period.

    1. leon

      I…I think i see what you did there?

      1. “It’s a little early for menopause, are you sure you’re not pregnant?”

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I can believe it. However, the line “They either give up or have a baby…” gives away everything you need to know.

  32. Pope Jimbo

    Mad props to CPRM for linking to You Betcha guys on youtube yesterday. Been watching and giggling all morning.

    To be honest I don’t even know where North Dakota is

    1. AlexinCT

      Do they say “Hoser” there?

  33. The Late P Brooks

    Brexit will kill millions

    At a press conference in London, Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said he had a 451-page dossier showing initial talks had taken place on drug prices and the NHS.

    He warned it showed the future of the health service was at risk.

    ——-

    Labour has been given uncensored government documents covering six rounds of negotiations – preparatory meetings ahead of formal trade talks – in Washington and London between July 2017 and July 2019.

    These documents appear to provide more detail about the meetings Channel 4’s Dispatches programme reported on earlier this year.

    They show the US is interested in discussing drug pricing – mainly, extending patents that stop cheaper generic medicines being used.

    The US currently pays two and a half times more for drugs than the NHS does.

    One document quotes a UK official saying the talks are helpful in determining the areas the US may want to discuss, while acknowledging the UK would have objections.

    As well as the pharmaceutical industry, the talks also covered other areas including agriculture and climate change.

    So the Americans pointed out that America subsidizes drug prices for the rest of the world. How tiresome. So selfish.

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      We also subsidize all the medical research that makes the drugs they’re taking possible in the first place.

      1. The FDA is working tirelessly to change that.

        1. Jarflax

          Well, to be fair the FDA is fine with the subsidy part, they just object to the part where usable products result.

    2. leon

      He warned it showed the future of the health service was at risk.

      No word on the brightening prospects for the health of those in Britain.

      1. I gave up on them when the guy who was complaining about having to stitch his own lacerations because the NHS was too slow to treat them thought that “Some people don’t have $66” was a valid reply to the inexpensiveness of x-rays in private healthcare. ($66 being my total billed amount for finding out if I’d broken a toe – which I hadn’t)

    3. leon

      SLD and whatnot, there is something a little satisfying about the Idea of the US telling the european social states to fuck off and start paying for some things that they have been taking advantage of… If we’re gonna be the Hegemony, it doesn’t make sense to not at least extract tribute from the vassal states.

    4. When they master modern dentistry, I’ll start listening to their concerns in more serious health issues.

    5. hayeksplosives

      Think of all the savings in taxpayer money if they dropped unnecessary vowels like the “u” in labour.

      BlackInkMatters#

    6. Rhywun

      Nice summary of the Labour platform.

      [long list of crazy spending that will destroy the economy]

      Even if Corbyn does not win, millions of people will vote for this.

      1. They left out “blame the Jews”. Otherwise that looks like the Labour platform.

    1. straffinrun

      Cheaper than Viagra.

    2. Jarflax

      baby it’s cold inside

  34. Michael

    This piece can probably be filed under “too local”, but it really does deliver the goods at the end:

    https://wgntv.com/2019/11/22/cook-county-commissioner-jeff-tobolski-continues-to-be-paid-despite-absences/

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      *snort*

      1. leon

        I don’t think you are supposed to snort them.

    2. Jarflax

      I don’t see why they object. Think how much life in Chicago would improve if everyone in Municipal, County, and State Government just cashed their check and stayed home.

    3. Rhywun

      This won’t stand.

  35. Pope Jimbo

    Good news from Minnesoda!

    Cop who kicked an innocent man who was laying on the ground after being attacked by a K-9 dog is convicted in court. Hasn’t been sentenced yet, but good on the jury. (Also, why doesn’t the paper put the pic of the perp on the front page with the story?)

    1. Fourscore

      Good thing the Dog Hero wasn’t kicked, Blam!, Blam!, Blam! Ooops, accidents happen. Sorry, Mr Alleged Perp

  36. Rebel Scum

    That’s not how it works.

    Coons said, “Well, as a senator, the pledge I’m going to take is to weigh all the evidence in front of me. So far, I haven’t seen any evidence that’s exculpatory, that would explain the president’s perspective. That’s why I hope he does testify, or that he does have his secretary of State or acting OMB director — or chief of staff, excuse me, testify. I haven’t seen any evidence that gives the president’s side or that explains his conduct as anything other than inappropriate. From what I’ve heard publicly and privately, I don’t think there will be the votes to remove him if this does come to an impeachment trial in the Senate, and to me, that’s disheartening. Because it removes guardrails on presidential misconduct.”

    So far, I haven’t seen any that is incriminating.

    1. AlexinCT

      GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT!

      1. Ahem.

        GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

        1. hayeksplosives

          GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN UNWOKE!! Then MOAR GUILTY!!

    2. The Last American Hero

      I have, but it’s like a cop pulling over the cast from a Mad Max movie and accusing them of speeding. Fuck the undeclared wars, let’s talk about the proper way to conduct diplomacy.

      1. straffinrun

        That would imply the other team was guilty, too. Can’t have that, can we?

      2. Rebel Scum

        I am sticking to the current paradigm where that stuff doesn’t matter if there is a ‘D’ next to one’s name. Hell, they tried to roast Trump for contemplating removing ourselves from illegal wars that he didn’t start.

  37. Drake

    Young grievance professional is aggrieved when people react to her nonsense appropriately.

    1. leon

      ‘As I was being introduced, they said ‘she’s been researching sexual harassment in archaeology’, to which a large group of older men laughed. Fully laughed – to the point that the presenter had to say ‘it isn’t funny’.

      Clearly it was funny to some, what you mean is “I don’t think it’s funny”

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        “I’m 21 years old and I’m here to set you old fuckers straight.”

        It’s just pure arrogance. It would be different if she had actual experience in the field.

    2. leon

      ‘Even if you take out the subject matter, imagine being 21, just out of undergrad, shortlisted for your first research award and… a group of people decide its acceptable to publicly *laugh* at that research.

      1. I don’t think you can remove the subject matter and get full context of why people were laughing.
      2. Science is a discipline where you have to convince people who disagree with you. If you can’t handle being laughed at you are going to have a hard time. Hate to tell you but no scientific finding can stand on its own. It must be argued for and fought for. The idea that “the truth will just win out” without anyone taking heat for being unpopular is silly. Nothing worthwhile was ever easy.

      1. pistoffnick

        I remember being 21. I knew it all and was bullet-proof.

        Not that I’m older, I realize how much I didn’t (and still don’t) know.

        1. AlexinCT

          Did you also turn into a snowflake?

    3. Pope Jimbo

      WOMEN ARE TO BE TREATED AS EQUALS SHITLORD!!!!

      ‘I know that my research has not always been taken seriously. I know this. What I was surprised at was the fact that these people were so f***ing open about it that they laughed in front of a room of their colleagues, at a young woman.

      But how dare you laugh at a woman!

      1. Then why did she give her speech with a squeaky helium voice?

    4. leon

      He added the organization hadn’t been able to identify exactly who was laughing in the audience but said the organisation was writing to those who attended the event to condemn ‘the completely inappropriate reaction.’

      Two last comments.

      1. I don’t know why someone would laugh at this necessarily, and so that makes me think I’m missing some context. Yes i’m not so much of a misanthrope to think that someone would be that rude without context. I know that i’ve been at “Awards” dinners and very often people are not paying attention, and it is not uncommon for people to be laughing at something else.

      2. I couldn’t find what Award she was getting, but it seems to indicate it was some award for her studies in archeology, when what she studied sounds more like the realm of an Ethics committee of some professional organization. Not that it isn’t useful, but that it doesn’t make sense to get an award for archeology when your study only has to do with studying archeologists, not archeology.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I’d be laughing at myself, thinking “Why the fuck am I here to get preached to by a 21 year old?”

      2. Jarflax

        I’m imagining someone at the table whispering “I’d harass the hell out her in the field” and his neighbor saying “Yeah, I dig it.”

      3. Rhywun

        the organization hadn’t been able to identify exactly who was laughing in the audience

        Gosh, I wonder what they had in mind for those whom they did identify.

    5. straffinrun

      The next Indiana Jones is gonna suck.

      1. MikeS

        Indiana Janes you shitlord!

        1. straffinrun

          Sorry, I chose poorly.

          1. Someone get a broom and dustpan. There might be another artifact to bring Sraffin back in the big warehouse. Don’t lose any of the dust.

          2. straffinrun

            It’s my Sunday morning every week. Pour some green tea and bacon grease on the pile of dust. I’ll be good by noon.

      2. Jarflax

        The next Indiana Jones is gonna suck.

        And suck well, otherwise she won’t get the job

    6. whiz

      The first thing I thought of is that she was researching sexual harassment in the past by using archeology, which got me to chuckle.

      1. That would at least be interesting.

  38. Pope Jimbo

    You want petty! I got your petty right here!

    Costs for President Donald Trump’s campaign rally in Minneapolis last month came in slightly higher than expected, and the city will continue to seek reimbursement, Mayor Jacob Frey said Tuesday.

    After weeks of calculating the cost of police overtime, public works crews and road barriers, the city determined that it spent $542,733 — roughly $12,000 more than the original $530,000 cost estimate for the president’s rally at the 19,356-seat Target Center. The event drew national attention after Frey and Trump sparred over who should cover costs for the event, which drew large protests around the downtown arena.

    The majority of the tab, some $392,139, was attributed to police costs, including overtime. Exactly how the city will seek reimbursement for those costs and whether it will succeed remains to be determined.

    The Boy Mayor says he would charge the same to any campaign event. I somehow can’t remember any talk about Obama or Clinton being asked to cover costs like this. I wish Trump would say something like “I would pay for the police, but I didn’t see any evidence of them actually stopping progressives from attacking people who went to the event.

    1. MikeS

      I wonder if the total includes the cost of “weeks of calculating the cost”.

    2. AlexinCT

      I hope someone in the WH read your suggestion and Trump actually does this your holiness….

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Me too.

        All my proggie friends think that Frey is so clever for doing this. They all acknowledge that this is complete petty politics, but have no problem with it because OrangeManBad. (And to be honest, the really don’t have to worry about the GOP ever being back in power in the city govt)

        1. AlexinCT

          You would be surprised at how many people I know that have simply gone so far off the deep end because of TDS that they are OK with burning down their own house if that allows them to finally “get” orange man. That people are that personally invested, and primarily because they are pissed he won an election they thought had been rigged for their favorite criminal (of course they see her a s a saint), just baffles me. I am not a real fan of orange man, but I am loving what he has done to the marxist & fascist crowd out there.

          1. Rebel Scum

            “The political is personal” pretty much says it all, especially considering that for leftists government is religion.

          2. AlexinCT

            Oh, I now no longer doubt that for the left the political is religious and that they will behave as a cult does when their beliefs are threatened. It also explains why they act like they are at war with anyone that doesn’t believe what they do other than other religious fanatics.

    3. Spartacus

      Trump doesn’t even pay his legitimate bills. I’d say the chances of this one getting covered are approximately zero.

      1. R C Dean

        This one, I believe, he doesn’t owe. If memory serves , he told them in advance the SS would handle security and he wasn’t paying for the locals.

    4. Rebel Scum

      I somehow can’t remember any talk about Obama or Clinton being asked to cover costs like this.

      My first question is how are these usually paid for considering I am only hearing of it being an issue now.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Baffling

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s support among Democratic primary voters nationwide plunged 50 percent over the past month, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll, signaling that the shake-ups in the primary field are far from over.

    Former Vice President Joe Biden has retaken the lead in the poll after an autumn that saw him surrender his solid frontrunner status, climbing 3 points to earn 24 percent in the poll. Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Ind., surged into second, rising 6 points to 16 percent, with Warren and Sen. Bernie Sanders not far behind at 14 and 13 percent, respectively.

    But Warren’s plummet — 14 points since the previous Quinnipiac poll taken a month ago — represents a brutal dive as the first nominating contests of 2020 inch closer. Warren has come under fire over the past few months since a summertime ascendance lifted her into the top tier of the primary field. She has received particularly intense scrutiny for her “Medicare for All” plan, including how she would pay for it.

    The more she says, the less they like her? Misogyny and prejudice. The rubes don’t understand their own best interests. She just wants to make their lives more perfect.

    1. straffinrun

      I think I saw her hanging around outside a cigar shop the other day.

    2. The Last American Hero

      So just like Hillary?

    3. AlexinCT

      Funny how the party of diversity’s primary has ended up being between an old corrupt white dude and a young soon to be corrupt white dude…

      1. Jarflax

        They have a Zombie, a Troll, a witch and a Gay dude in the top 4, how much diversity do you want?

  40. Rebel Scum
    1. Rebel Scum

      Whoops.

      Anyway, related: Trump Under Fire for Using Male Pronouns to Describe Conan the Hero Dog.

      I guess the name has something to do with that. Either way, s/he is such a good boy/girl.

      1. The Last American Hero

        Maybe the bitch identifies as male.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Did you expect something else from the author of “What’s the Matter with White People?”

    3. leon

      Why do people think the legacy media has nothing to offer?

  41. JD is Unemployed

    Oh man, it’s hard to keep up around here. As soon as the links go up there’s 200 comments within 5 minutes and then everyone is done with it. One might think I’d have an advantage being at least three hours ahead over on the other side of the Atlantic. Do y’all have unspecific office jobs that involve lots of pretending to be busy while instead refreshing Glibs every 2 minutes? A workin’ man can’t get too much time on the internet like that save for reading his emails and skim reading half a Kevin Williamson article with a reheated cup of coffee.

    1. MikeS

      Well, the links have been up for 2 hours. I’m not saying you’re a slow reader, but…maybe you should read faster.

      1. Pope Jimbo

        Whoa, whoa, whoa.

        Remember what happened last time you tried to read the comments real fast – without properly warming up – Mike? Do you want JDU to have the same painful lip cramps you did?

      2. JD is Unemployed

        I am definitely a slow reader. I mostly come here for the pictures.

    2. leon

      Do y’all have unspecific office jobs that involve lots of pretending to be busy while instead refreshing Glibs every 2 minutes?

      Why don’t you just yell “DONT ANY OF YOU WORK?”

      1. JD is Unemployed

        *Yells “DON’T ANY OF YOU WORK?!”*

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      None of us have jobs work, just ask Rufus.

    4. Do y’all have unspecific office jobs that involve lots of pretending to be busy while instead refreshing Glibs every 2 minutes?

      I have multiple monitors. I can issue a command on one monitor, and catch up on my commenting while it runs. Two minutes means I’ve left my desk or started writing documentation.

      Also, a lot of time is wasted responding to emails or attending meetings.

      1. JD is Unemployed

        Aaaah. IT, of course. It’s like I’d forgotten this was a libertarian site.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        We have a lot of remote team members, so a lot of time to comment while pretending to listen during meetings on Google Hangouts.

        Today is awesome. We had a big storm last night, which combined with being the day before T-giving means no one is in the office. Glorious freedom!

        1. Fourscore

          About 3 inches (of snow) here. Wait’ll tomorrow/Friday

    1. gbob

      Shit. Missed the link for this story being posted earlier. Damn it. You people are too fast for me.

  42. The Late P Brooks

    Bloomberg saying that his media operation can only publish negative things about Trump is fine, right? I mean, that is only right.

    Nothing positive could ever be said about Public Enemy Number One, because he is pure, distilled evil.

    duh

    1. kinnath

      Don’t Touch it.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    I remember being 21. I knew it all and was bullet-proof.

    Not that I’m older, I realize how much I didn’t (and still don’t) know.

    “When I was fifteen, my old man was dumb as a box of rocks. It’s amazing how much smarter he’s gotten, over the years.”
    -Cicero

    1. kinnath

      “When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”

      ― Mark Twain

      1. Pope Jimbo

        I use this quote all the time.

        When my boys were in high school I had to intervene in a lot of conflicts between them and the wife. I kept telling her to let their crap slide for now. They’d realize in a few years how dumb they are. But in the mean time don’t burn any bridges.

      2. hayeksplosives

        HayekMom Sage advice to young teen Hayeksplosives (in the wake of a small dust up amongst sister, Mom, and youngHayek);

        “It’s natural. Adults just aren’t meant to live in the same household long term with anyone they’re not sleeping with.”

        That has stuck with me.

        I liken it to the US rebelling against Britain. Thanks for the good legacy, but we don’t see eye-to-eye anymore.

        Can you imagine the US if Spain had conquered and retained it??!!??

        1. JD is Unemployed

          We’d be like Puerto Rico but further away and colder?

      3. stupendousman

        OK Boomer.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I remember being 21. I don’t think I was quite so arrogant/naive as to think I could lecture professionals in my field who had decades of experience on me.

      1. It took me a few years of working before I realized the professionals in my field were even more full of shit than I was.

  44. Rebel Scum

    Brookline Town Meeting Approves Lowering The Voting Age To 16

    The town of Brookline is seeking approval from the state to lower the voting age to 16. The decision was approved by a 142 to 71 vote in a town meeting Thursday night.

    “These elections directly impact these young people,” said board member Raul Fernandez, who is in favor of the idea. It would allow 16 and 17-year-olds to vote in municipal elections and make them eligible to become a town meeting member if they were registered.

    “At the age of 16, they can start working and paying taxes on that work,” said Fernandez. “There’s no reason why these young people should not have a say in our politics and actually giving them a say in our politics will make us even better.”

    So they should also be able to buy guns, enter into contracts, tried as adults for all crimes, and be conscripted to kill for or be killed for the government?

    1. Pope Jimbo

      That is the same place that just outlawed any new building from using oil or gas for heating?

      Uffda, think of how horrible it would be to be a sentient being that lived there and attended those meetings.

      Maybe these recent votes are some sort of contest between a couple of local smart asses? “Hey checkout what I can get them to vote for!”

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Snowmageddon! Proof positive we must cease our depraved carbon addiction before it’s too late.

    Hurricane-force winds, blizzard conditions, heavy snowfall — and a “bomb cyclone” on the West Coast: Those are the dire predictions of weather forecasters, who are warning Thanksgiving travelers to be cautious and prepare for delays as two powerful back-to-back storms hit the western and central U.S. this week.

    ——-

    Despite those high snow totals, the strongest winter storm is in the far West, where the system is coming in from the Pacific Ocean. It will start to hit Oregon and Northern California by Tuesday night, the NWS says. It adds that what could be a record-setting storm system will likely turn into a bomb cyclone — meaning the storm will intensify at an unusually rapid rate.

    If you’re going over Donner Pass, be sure to bring a knife and fork.

    1. pistoffnick

      I used to say my name was Donner when the hostess asked. Then we would giggle when they announced over the speaker “Donner, party of six, your table is ready.”

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Big nothingburger here. I5 is closed at the border at Caltran’s request last night due to blizzard conditions there.

    3. Rhywun

      OMG, IT’S THE END!! PANIC! FEAR!!

  46. pistoffnick

    SNOWPOCALYPSE!

    8.3 inches

    Schools are closed. City buses are stopped. Lake and 21st Avenues (the steep ones) are closed due to crashed cars.

    We all have 4 wheel drive. I changed oil in the snow blower last weekend when it was warm. I bought a case of booze and the freezer is stocked.

    Le tits now!

    1. straffinrun

      So you are somewhere in the Northern hemisphere.

    2. PieInTheSky

      a measly 200 mm of snow

    3. Pope Jimbo

      7.5″ here in Sunny Maple Grove. Plowing is way behind, so biking to work sucked big time.

      Schools were announcing closures by noon yesterday. It has stopped for now and is supposed to resume on Saturday for the Golden Rodents vs Wisconsin game.

      1. Fourscore

        3 in the North Country

      2. pistoffnick

        As I pulled out of my alley, some dude on a fat tire whizzed past going down the hill. He nearly wiped out a few yards beyond me. That’s hardcore dedication.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I have studded tires for regular mountain bike. I’d love to have a fat tire bike, but they don’t make super cheap ones yet.

          My theory on bikes is to buy cheap and beat the shit out of them. I’m not serious enough to get the extra value out of having a nice bike and when some visiting thieves steal your cheap bike it doesn’t sting so bad.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            How cheap?

            local place for you. They sell Framed bikes which are one of the best price / value brand I’ve seen for fat bikes (and other bikes as well)

            https://www.the-house.com/fat-bikes-framed.html

          2. Pope Jimbo

            Cheap enough so any (((Glibs))) visiting will be severely disappointed when they try to fence it.

    4. Nephilium

      Mid 50’s and raining. Everything is open and the traffic still sucks.

  47. gbob

    700 Tapeworms in the brain. And yet, I’m sure he’s still less crazy than anyone running for president.

    1. Drake

      The pilot episode of House?

  48. Count Potato

    “Talking with your family about abortion isn’t always easy. If you’re visiting loved ones for the holidays this time of year, check out our guide for talking about abortion, including graphics, articles, and a toolkit!”

    https://twitter.com/AbortionFunds/status/1199697139477209088

    1. Count Potato

      “THREAD: Thanksgiving is Thursday & many of you may be spending the holiday with friends & family members who are uncertain about impeachment. Here’s a guide for talking with them impeachment:”

      https://twitter.com/MoveOn/status/1199425926024630273

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        YEAH! And I’ll bring up how you are all going to the fiery pits of hell because you’re not *insert religion of choice here*.

    2. My family is normal. We don’t talk about this type of shit when we get together.

      Anyone who did would do that would soon stop getting informed of get togethers.

      1. Chipwooder

        Same. We have all political stripes in the family, but why the hell would we talk about that crap instead of enjoying the fleeting time we get to spend together?

      2. Nephilium

        There may be all of five minutes of political BS’ing that goes on. That’s about it. After that we’re more likely to talk about alcohol, food, the kids, the other relatives, the extended family, and upcoming travel/vacation plans.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      While we’re at it, I’ll talk about my hemorrhoids and how I used to suck hobo cock for crack.

      1. gbob

        “Used to”? Are you going soft on us?

        1. The Hobos have standards, and he no longer meets them.

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            I was finally able to afford those false teeth, but it cost me my core market.

        2. Pope Jimbo

          are you going soft on us

          No, but his clients are. The demand curve is drooping.

    4. Drake

      “Guess what – you are going to be the proud grandparents of a dead fetus!”

    5. Rebel Scum

      Are they TRYING to cause family strife?

      1. Yes. They hate families.

        1. hayeksplosives

          Sadly this is true.

    6. Count Potato

      If anyone is wondering, later I’ll be giving a powerpoint presentation, on how to pimp hand someone with a gravy label wrapped in a napkin.

      1. Count Potato

        um ladle

        1. Pope Jimbo

          That was no ladle, that was my knife!

          1. Jarflax

            So you are British now?

    7. straffinrun

      What’s in the toolkit?

      1. Count Potato

        A vacuum and a bag of giblets.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Coat hanger

      3. Jarflax

        A pistol and one bullet if I have any say.

  49. Drake

    Black Bear Attack Stopped with .45 on Second Floor of Motel

    Bear went away but not body found. Cops cited shooter for reckless endangerment and unlawful discharge of a firearm. The police impounded his Kimber as evidence. The Kimber, with custom modifications, is worth about $1800. I sometimes fantasize that cops in a “free” state like Tennessee aren’t assholes.

    1. leon

      Cops cited shooter for reckless endangerment

      I’d trust the cops on this one. When it comes to reckless endangerment from firearms they are the experts.

    2. PieInTheSky

      What is that in milimeters?

      1. I don’t know the conversion of dollars to milimeters.

      2. Count Potato

        11.5

        1. Bad spud! Don’t encourage Rebellious Frog Units.

          1. Drake

            He has to learn!

      3. Drake

        11.5mm – big slow bullets.

    3. Rebel Scum

      He was cited for reckless endangerment and unlawful discharge of a firearm.

      It’s “unlawful” to discharge your firearm for defense against an aggressive animal?

      1. Jarflax

        Yes. It is only legal when the dangerous animal is named Spot and is in its living room next to the toddler.

    1. PieInTheSky

      Commie pope should take a vow of silence

    2. creech

      Sounds like he might go along with erecting wind turbines on the top of the steeples of Catholic churches everywhere. Doing their part and all. Using church funds of course.

    3. straffinrun

      “Nuclear energy has limits… The use of nuclear energy has limits because we have not yet achieved absolute security.”

      Better shut down your churches then.

      /Altar boy.

      1. Jarflax

        If we post a bounty on people using the term “precautionary principle” or the concept by another name, thereby making that action highly dangerous, would the precautionary principle then require the banning of the precautionary principle?

        1. straffinrun

          Yes. You can never be too safe.

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Let me get this straight; they named a female dog “Conan”? I guess they named her after that late night teevee person.

    1. kinnath

      Right.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      LOL

      “This is obviously retaliation for union organizing,” Schroth said. “The total hypocrisy of their progressive mission as a green energy company is disgusting. They did everything that a big bad union busting company does. This is exactly what a coal company or any other evil company does.”

      1. leon

        progressive mission as a green energy company is disgusting.

        pretty sure their mission is to make money providing the service they provide.

        1. Jarflax

          pretty sure their mission is to make money providing the service they provide get sweet sweet gubmint money shoveled on them for virtue signaling.

          FTFY

    2. leon

      her reply:

      Many have told me they think the pro-justice & worker provisions in the Green New Deal are “unnecessary.”

      Yet this example is why a just transition is vital. Without it, oil barons turn into energy barons, & workers are hurt all the same.

      Bright Power must be held accountable.

      Clearly the issue is not global warming but continued Union agitation. That is why when a politician comes an agitates your workforce into unionizing and you switch back to subcontractors, you must be punished. Forget that the company is doing what she wants with regards to clean energy. Clean energy is just a means to talk about here socialist policies.

      1. hayeksplosives

        “…must be held accountable.”

        This will totally encourage entrepreneurship

  51. PieInTheSky

    Ricky Gervais and Transphobia Have No Place at the Golden Globes

    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/11/ricky-gervais-transphobic-golden-globes-1202189531/amp/

    1. Lackadaisical

      They’re not wrong, those shows suck.

    2. Rhywun

      More recently, he used Halloween as an opportunity to mock transgender activist Jessica Yaniv

      You mean, the fraud who wore a dress so she could train little girls in bathrooms to go down on her? That Jessica Yaniv?

  52. Lackadaisical

    “The hero we both want and need.”

    Jamaica is sending us their best.

  53. Ass Wednesday is announcing its candidacy for President.

    http://archive.is/Bop4A

    1. Drake

      #3 is the ticket I’d get behind.

  54. “I am not going to go out like a punk.”

    You’re right, he really is the hero we need.

  55. What other reason do you have for becoming a self-help guru if you’re not going to fuck teenage girls?

    1. AlexinCT

      ^^^THIS^^^

  56. People talk about your cat plotting to kill you, but the dog is the one actually doing the dirty work.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Cute.

      Dad should get a rat. They are loyal and don’t want to escape and hide.

      .every rat I had was “potty trained” so when I got home I’d open the cage and let rat out of cage, while leaving it open. Rat wanted only to crawl around on me for a while, then explore, then get back to sitting on my lab.

      I even took them outside without a leash. They’d never get more than 20 feet away, and always come running back when I called.

      1. I’d be obligated to give such a pet a Skaven name.

        1. Jarflax

          Pular Singe

          1. Shirley Knott

            +1

        2. hayeksplosives

          My rats’ names, in order (they don’t live much past 2 yrs) were:

          Pickle (she liked to sleep in the Clear tight plastic tunnels)

          Foofur (best rat evah—-rescued from being fed to a savannah monitor lizard at a pet shop. Rat was purchased with a bunch of others as spares from the University psychology Dept. She was smart AF and very sweet. I got her before she was weaned, as the dude was about to lower her into the lizard cage. I said “how much for that rat??!!” And I was hooked.

          Sneezer. Had allergies.

          Boris. Died young, poor boy.

          Velvet: brave and beautiful. Looked like a “wild rat” with her brownish fur but her white socks gave it away. Still, always fun to have her with me in my fanny pack to freak people the eff out when they saw her peek out and ask for dried oats.

          1. TARDIS

            My wife’s cats name is Sneezer. Actually a Tiny Toons reference.

      2. pistoffnick

        My roommate at camp had a pet rat named Eight Ball. The thing chewed through the cord on my headphone as I was listening to music.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The cat smiles.

  57. straffinrun

    Mentioned this an overnight thread earlier this week, but I’ll give another summary here. Got stopped on the way to the grocery store at 11 am on Sunday. On my bicycle, sitting at a red light. The cop says, “Do you have your ID?” Hand it to him. “Did I do something wrong?” “No, (he mumbles something about a “gaikokujin” problem)”. Hands me back my ID. Polite. One the way back from the grocery store I get stopped by a different cop. Same thing. “Why are you asking for my ID and not that (points at random Japanese dude walking on the sidewalk) guy’s?” No, answer. He, too, was polite and just handed back my ID. “Have a nice day.” It’s crazy that they do this shit still. Probably happened a 20 times since I’ve lived here.

    1. You’re suspicous.

      1. straffinrun

        Bit shifty, that’s for sure. Them continuing to do this is making me more shifty.

        1. Demand their identification, and accuse them of impersonating a police officer.

    2. Drake

      Where do you live?

      1. PieInTheSky

        tokyo i assume

      2. straffinrun

        Tokyo.

        1. I’ve been wondering. Ever since I noticed that the old capital Kyoto and the new capital Tokyo were made from the same two syllables in a different order, I wanted to know what those components meant.

          1. straffinrun

            The “To” in Tokyo (東) means “East” so when they moved the capital East, they just put the “To” onto “Kyo” (京】to make it “Eastern Capital”. The “To” in Kyoto is a different character than the “To” in Tokyo.

          2. So what does the ‘to’ in Kyoto mean?

          3. R C Dean

            Western?

          4. straffinrun

            Ugh. Literally it means “hill” or “mountain”. I dunno how that city got it’s original name. Just to clarify, 京都 is Kyoto. 東京 is Tokyo. The meanings of the characters (besides east or 東) aren’t really all that important.

          5. Jarflax

            So Kyoto is literally Capitol Hill?

          6. straffinrun

            Y’all gonna drive me insane. Kyoto doesn’t have “capital” in it’s characters at all. It’s just the place name. It’d be like thinking the word “Washington” means “Capital”.

          7. Scruffy Nerfherder

            It’d be like thinking the word “Washington” means “Capital”.

            It doesn’t?

          8. You’re contradicting yourself, or leaving something out.

          9. Gustave Lytton

            My understanding is it that one originally had a meaning of where the emperor resides and the other capital city.

            The to in Kyoto 都 is also used in Tokyo-to as the prefectural equivalent. I was looking a some pencils recently that apparently came from the government that were labeled 東京都.

          10. straffinrun

            This is it, then I’m giving up. 京都 is “Kyoto”. 京 means “hill”. 都 means something like “area”. 東京 is “Tokyo”. 東 means “east”. So 京都 becomes 東京. Just cross out the second character in Kyoto and add 東 before the 京 and you get 東京。

          11. Gustave Lytton

            More gas on the fire

            https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/都

            https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/京

            Essentially the root meanings are the same. Capital capital. Like New York, I guess.

          12. Gustave Lytton

            That’s how my Japanese teacher explained it. Tokyo as a contracted form of East Kyoto (and Kyoto meaning the capital generically).

          13. straffinrun

            Now you guys got me obsessed with explaining this. Imagine they moved the capital from Washington DC to Alabama and then called the city “Southern Washington DC.” Same idea.

          14. Jarflax

            So Kyoto, just an ordinary city name with no deep deliberate meaning, was the capital and when they moved the capital to the new city they named that city after Kyoto, but dropped the ending and added a beginning meaning East because it was to the east of the old capital?

          15. ChipsnSalsa

            Where do the tentacles come into play in this equation?

          16. straffinrun

            I’m sure it means something to them 1000 years ago. I’m not gonna dig through it to see what changed over the years. Might as well as Benedict Cumberpatch where his name came from.

          17. straffinrun

            Basically, yes, Jarflax. (Of course the disclaimer that Kyoto had come to mean “the capital” over time).

          18. Jarflax

            they just put the “To” onto “Kyo” (京】to make it “Eastern Capital”. The “To” in Kyoto is a different character than the “To” in Tokyo.

            Sorry I took this to mean that the Kyo 京 meant capital

          19. straffinrun

            My bad. I should’ve phrased that differently.

          20. Rhywun

            I’m reminded of how the big Chinese cities mean simple things like “North Capital”, “South Capital”, “On The Sea”, and such.

          21. Gustave Lytton

            Yes, and east capital is Dongjing. Which is appropriate to straff’s original comment. Capital of dicks.

          22. straffinrun

            Gustave may be right about how Kyo eventually came to mean something like “where the emperor lived”, but it’s original meaning is “hill” or “mountain”. This is why I stopped doing the five minute Japanese lessons.

          23. Gustave Lytton

            I think you can have similar frustration trying to figure out English place names by analyzing the entomology of the constituent words.

    3. Pope Jimbo

      Some cop came home early and saw a white ass jumping out his bedroom window?

  58. It would be easier to read the links (on iPad, Safari) if there weren’t so many popups, for es to make you sign up for whatever, and autoplay videos that take forever to load. No, I don’t have blockers. See iPad, Safari part.

    1. I have adblockers turned off for glibs and I don’t see any ads.

      Is your iPad infected?

      1. Or, do you mean you follow the links and get bombarded from those sites?

        1. Yes. I actually do follow the links, but can’t read them because of popups, ads, and videos, making them take forever to load. And then the vids are autoplay.

          I will install Brave.

      2. hayeksplosives

        I switch to “Reader mode” as soon as possible upon clicking a link. Helps a ton.

    2. R C Dean

      Brave browser helps with that. You will also learn that the internet is rotten with scripts and many sites are built so they don’t function unless you allow tracking.

      1. I use Brave on my PC, and would you look at that! There’s a Brave browser for iPad! That’ll teach me to assume! (Not really.)

    3. Rhywun

      There are adblockers for Safari on iOS. I don’t use them because I rarely browse on my phone but here is the one I use on my desktop which also has a phone version.

  59. R C Dean

    Yo, Unciv. Just finished “Off the Edge of the Map”. Really enjoyed it. Looking forward to reading the next installment.

    1. I’m about halfway through the sequel myself. I’m having a debate whether the remaning content is something that can fit in that volume, or if it needs to turn into a trilogy.

      This was supposed to be one book when I started…

      1. pistoffnick

        I have more name suggestions if you need them. ;^)

        1. Nah.

          I was kvetching. Armand Folcard doesn’t need new names.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    Preach it

    Our relatives who defend Trump are not Trump. They are not facing a “witch hunt.” In fact, Trump and his operatives have bewitched ordinary Americans into supporting his interests over their own. Our relatives are the victims of Trump’s lies, of Trump’s policies, of his raids on democracy, of his tax cuts for the rich, of his tariffs, of his assaults on affordable health care, of his terrorization of job-creating immigrants, of his do-nothing climate and gun policies, of his use of the presidential power to enrich himself rather than low- and middle-income Americans.

    What has Trump done for our relatives who are not superrich and white and male other than entertain their destructive bigotries and fears and desires? What are we willing to do for their well-being? Who else is going to usher our relatives out of the reality show and back into reality? Relatives are best positioned to be these ushers. All this avoiding and attacking our relatives, and self-censoring around our relatives, ensures that our families remain as divided as our society.

    And how can we forget the victims of Trumpism? In avoiding our relatives, we are ignoring the harm of Trump, at the same time we claim to oppose Trump, at the same time we claim to support equity and justice. In keeping the peace with our relatives, we are prolonging the war against everything and everyone we claim to hold dear in the United States of America.

    ——-

    We should not empirically show them the Trumpian policies causing their pain—how they’ve been had by Trump—until they are close enough to us to receive it. Our loved ones will need us, conceptually and emotionally, for the life-altering process of disavowing Trump for truth.

    It is impossible to reconcile truth and Trump, but it is possible to reconcile the consumers of truth and Trump. It is possible to liberate our relatives from their abusive relationship with Trump’s alternative reality, where he always is the victim and they are always his defenders. It is a long shot, like the Knicks winning the NBA championship one day, like Unc becoming a vegan one day.

    But either we are serious about bringing Americans together or we are not. If we are, then it starts with our families. It starts with us. It can start at Thanksgiving.

    Save them. Save their souls. Open their eyes to the works of the devil incarnate, Trump.

    I can’t imagine a better way to spend an afternoon than to be trapped in a house with this pompous sermonizing race huckster.

    1. R C Dean

      “ It is possible to liberate our relatives from their abusive relationship with Trump’s alternative reality“

      There’s definitely alternate realities here, that’s for damn sure. Both are partial and inaccurate to some degree, but I think I know which one is less delusional and damaging to its adherents and society.

      That reminds me, time to check Black Friday ammo sales. I ain’t going out like no punk, either, if it comes to that.

      1. Raston Bot

        good deals to be had. i’m seeing lots of free shipping offers. and now that the Trump Slump is over, a prudent shopper would take advantage.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      I don’t think you’re invited to the Obama’s Thanksgiving meal.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      That asshole is the new face of race hucksters. He likes to say that calling someone racist is not a moral judgement, merely an observation, which of course, is utter bullshit. He’s just trying to get more white people to profess they’re racists, which the race hucksters will then use as an argument for more “anti-racist” policies.

    4. AlmightyJB

      “trapped in a house with this pompous sermonizing race huckster”

      One if us would be leaving. Since I host TDay, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t be me.

      1. Nephilium

        I host as well. Start talking like that, and I can pull up a seat at my bar, pour myself a glass of my whiskey, and start preaching myself.

  61. AlmightyJB

    Another example of Prosecutors being the scum that scum scrape off their shoes. TW TOS.

    https://reason.com/2019/11/27/brickbat-jailbait-indeed/

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Holy shit, how fucking sociopathic do you have to be to use your own 13 year old daughter as pedo bait?

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      I never cease to be amazed at Ken Shultz’s commenting volume.

      also, what a cunte of a father.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    I’m just going to say it. If a hamster is the light of your life, you’re living in a pretty dark place.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Not as dark as the Hamster’s! Lol.

      1. AlexinCT

        Richard Gere euphemism?

  63. Raston Bot

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/11/14/mcph-n14.html

    so very interesting.

    long interview with Civil War historian where he fisks the NYT’s 1619 project nearly through the entire interview.

    yes, it’s a piece at the World Socialist Web Site but it’s just a great interview.

  64. R C Dean

    Watched a couple of good Russian WWII movies – Fortress of War and T-34, both on Amazon Prime. T-34’s plot was a little thin, but I think it gave a good look at what fighting a tank was like. Fortress was just an all around good movie, if you don’t mind a little pro-Soviet slant.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    He’s just trying to get more white people to profess they’re racists, which the race hucksters will then use as an argument for more “anti-racist” policies.

    *rises nervously from folding chair*

    “Hi, everybody.”

    “Hi.”

    I’m P, and I’m a racist. It has been almost ten days since I lynched anybody.”

    *applause, congratulations*

    1. “Hi, Everybody. Does it count as a lynching if I was the only one there? I mean, it was just a white pro-antifa soyboy, so I didn’t need any backup.”

    2. Jarflax

      Hi P, it has been 52 years and 14 days for me.

      1. Oh, hey, happy belated birthday then!

        1. Jarflax

          Thanks… I mean you don’t know that! I could be 70 with a really ugly past!

          1. You mean you didn’t string up people with your umbilical cord?

          2. You said it better than I did, for sure.

          3. Jarflax

            The only people there were my Mom and the Doctor. At the time I was fond of my Mom, and I couldn’t reach the Doctor.

          4. I was going to caveat that, but already knew you were my age and you probably couldn’t have lynched anyone from the womb. I say probably because my son would’ve done it were he inclined to kill people. But he’s not (excepting himself) so there’s that.

  66. Re the ridiculous content of what to say to your relatives at Thanksgiving when you don’t agree politicallu, when you want to shock and insult them needlessly, when you want to rescue them from the Cult of Trump, and when you want to extol the virtues of abortion:

    Some of this shit is just to create content, like the chick with the tee-shirts. Do they actually believe this stuff? Sure. But the minutiae (a random thought turned into 1590 words) is just content churning.

    1. R C Dean

      What’s scary is the people who hold the commanding cultural heights really think this is what everyone should be doing.

  67. I just ate an old-fashioned donut. Shoulda got a glazed. *blurgh*

    And I thought cruellers and funnel cakes were rich.

    1. JG43

      Hey are you still making some pie crust? I just discovered an easy way to without it sticking. Roll it out on parchment paper and put a thin damp towel under the paper so it won’t slide around. Easy peasy and you just flip the paper over on top of the pie pan when it’s rolled out.

      1. That is a super-good idea. I have a silpat I got long ago at my brother’s suggestion. I’ll try that (cuz it was expensive [by my standards] [which are low] and I should at least try) and if that doesn’t work, I’ll do the parchment paper.

        Thanks!

        1. Shirley Knott

          Parchment paper is great. So many uses, so much better than waxed or foil or film.

  68. PieInTheSky

    OK, so this is funny.

    Seems the American Society for Criminology had their annual meeting recently.

    And they had a meeting on research integrity (which given all the recent fuss, makes sense).

    After the panel, *the panelists hot-mic’d themselves* in a subsequent discussion.

    https://twitter.com/jamesheathers/status/1199676892460261376

  69. Ed Wuncler

    Super OT: So a couple of months ago I think I wrote in one of the threads that one of my close friends and I had a huge falling out because I decided to leave a job that he hired me for and was my boss because of the pay, lack of benefits, and other shit I wasn’t comfortable with. Anyway, he felt as though I betrayed him and told me that I couldn’t be in his wedding and that he wasn’t sure we could be friends anymore. Fast forward to last week and he and his fiance sent us Save the Dates to their wedding in May.

    Wasn’t going to go because he said a lot of spiteful shit about me and wife but everyone within our group of friends said that we ought to go as a gesture of goodwill and because the group dynamic would be frayed if I didn’t go. I’m going to go but will probably leave an hour after the toasts and dinner because while I don’t hold grudges, dude did say a lot of shitty things about me and still holds a grudge against me for leaving even though I apologized and tried to make amends.

    1. Ed Wuncler

      I feel like I have to go out of obligation because he did drive all the way to Cleveland for my wedding (he was one of my groomsmen) and his fiance wants us to be there even though she’s somewhat aware of the issues between us.

    2. kinnath

      Always be the better man.

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        Yup

      2. Ed Wuncler

        That’s what everyone told me. I don’t have to get shitfaced and stay all night at the reception. Just come there, give a decent gift, wish the bride and the groom success, and be on my way. And I have an out to leave early since my daughter will be five months old at the time and will need to have a babysitter.

        1. kinnath

          The world is full of disappointing people.

          Just make sure you are not disappointed in yourself.

          1. Ed Wuncler

            That’s great advice. My friend who is one of the groomsmen said that while they may not remember me being at the wedding, they won’t forget that I wasn’t there. Everyone’s like, ‘We get why you wouldn’t go considering the shit he said about you, but rise above that and be the bigger man.”

          2. It’s not about them. It’s about you. You look out for you, and you don’t need that negativity in your life.

            But–will you look back and regret not going?

          3. Don Escaped Texas

            He’s also going because the gang’s all there. No reason not to enjoy that.

            Toxicity is more than a little about perspective and self- confidence. Who lets one guy with a selfish bent get under their skin? Dude already voted himself off the island: nothing he can say should matter now.

            And all this stuff is so easy to float over knowing you’ve been the bigger man at every turn.

            It would be a piece of cake for me. Also dress better, dance better, squire about your fine wife, have a kind or jolly bon mot to throw off for every need . . . . Profit!

          4. Why waste your time going to something you don’t want to go to to appease a whole bunch of people who are exhorting him to “be the better man”?

            Ed clearly doesn’t want to go or he wouldn’t be struggling with it.

            There is absolutely no reason to indulge a petty man’s passive-aggressive attempt to reconcile (if that’s what it even is).

    3. straffinrun

      If you didn’t do anything wrong, don’t go.

      1. Ed Wuncler

        Yeah. I struggle with that. A part of me is like…fuck that guy. Not only did he take it personal that I left but he made all sorts of shitty accusations against me, but the other side is like…swallow your pride, be the bigger man, and go for a couple of hours and leave.

        1. straffinrun

          You said you apologized. Not trying to be a dick, but you shouldn’t have IIRC your original story correctly. There’s a difference between, “I gotta do what I gotta do. Sorry if that’s an inconvenience for you, but it’s business” and “Sorry I broke some kind of promise.” If the former and he still talked shit, fuck him.

        2. Nah. Keep the toxicity out of your life. You don’t need to go celebrate a guy who kicked you to the curb AFTER he said he wouldn’t if things went south (yes, I remembered).

    4. Don’t go.

      The fiancee is in charge of the wedding. He may very well not want you to be there but caved to the fiancee, or he doesn’t know you were invited.

      1. straffinrun

        It’s so easy for me to tell the wife, “No, I don’t wanna do that so I’m not gonna do that.” Maybe I’m a psycho.

        1. Well, it’s not Ed’s wife’s friend (hereinafter, TF [toxic friend]).

          If TF can’t say no to his fiancee, oh well, what a pussy. If TF wants Ed there, he should tell him himself, but he didn’t, so TF is a pussy.

          TF cut Ed off. Ed is better for it. Stay cut off.

          1. Ed Wuncler

            Mojeaux has no mercy whatsoever, lol. Sometimes I need to have attitude.

          2. Every time I have tried to reconnect, it’s ended in spectacularly disastrous fashion. Don’t sit there through the wedding and reception being miserable.

          3. straffinrun

            Sure. I’m simply pointing out that his TF is being a wimp. I wouldn’t want someone I didn’t like at my wedding. Why the hell is the fiancee insisting on it?

          4. I’m agreeing with you. Just adding points.

          5. straffinrun

            Oh yeah! Well so am I! 😉

          6. *snickersnort*

  70. pistoffnick

    My daughter and I went to see the movie “Parasite” last night.

    It was very well done. Excellent plot, good cinematography, beautiful music. Korean but with English subtitles.

    I think there were a total of five people at the theater. The blizzard might have had something to do with that. Still, I don’t understand how the theater can stay in business (well other than city paid subsidies).

  71. The Late P Brooks

    Jesus Fucking Christ on a gluten free vegan cracker

    Willetts started by exposing the scale of the problem. In 2010, he wrote a book called The Pinch, which argued that British “baby boomers”—the generation born in the 20 years after the Second World War— “took their children’s futures.” They bought cheap houses, which have since rocketed in value. Their standard of living rose throughout their working lives. They retired with solid state-funded pensions, and sometimes generous private ones, too. Their Millennial children, by contrast, were having a tougher time—struggling to buy a house, watching their salaries stagnate, and looking ahead to a much less comfortable retirement. It was, Willetts wrote, selfish of the Boomers not to recognize, and mitigate, this situation.

    More ass backwards “thinking”.

    Where, do we surmise, did all that fabulous wealth (currently being hoarded by those evil parsimonious Boomers) come from?

    1. Hyperion

      Boomers Are Not Okay
      Older voters warp their countries’ policies because of their political power

      “One British politician has a plan to end that dominance.”

      Death camps?

      1. AlexinCT

        Everyone over 35 should report for termination!

        1. Hyperion

          The ones who do as they’re told by their betters, can apply for a one year pass, each year, for the proper fees.

    2. Hyperion

      Seriously, the Boomers didn’t get the opportunity to get indocrinat… lurnt in a woke environment and rid themselves of wrong think. If they would have, they’d vote for the right good people and stop thinking that they don’t need their life micromanaged by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.

      This is the left in a nutshell. If you can’t think the way we tell you to, we’re going to have to force the issue for your own good.

    3. Urthona

      Economic data proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that every single generation is richer than the previous. Barring the depression era, there has never been an exception to this in our country’s history.

      1. Hyperion

        I never knew anyone when I was a kid who had a home that cost several hundred thousand dollars with garages to park more than 2 cars, with several large screen TVs and computers, and everyone in the family walking around with mobile phones.

        When I was a kid, if you had 2 cars and could park even one of them in a garage and you had one color TV in your house, you were considered well off. Now I know several people in their 30s who have all of the stuff I mentioned in the first paragraph and more, and they are only considered middle class.

        1. My husband won most of the big-ticket items in our house.

          The only thing I can think of that we bought new without having won it or won the money for it (remember, he won a car once) is our bed. It’s a custom-made captain’s bed with six drawers 15″ deep. We got it 16 years ago.

          In fact, the drawers are so big, I made a tiny mattress and bumpers and my daughter slept in it for 3 months when she was a newborn.

          1. Hyperion

            “In fact, the drawers are so big, I made a tiny mattress ”

            You could house an entire family of Japanese in there and they’d feel right at home! / lacist

        2. leon

          When I was a kid, if you had 2 cars and could park even one of them in a garage and you had one color TV in your house, you were considered well off.

          I’m a little younger, but this is what i remember too. I remmber thinking 2 cars was a sign of being well-off and having any more than one computer was crazy.

          I think 2 TV’s was fairly normal but they were always the CRT tv’s and anyone having a flat screen obviously had it made, or was spending beyond their means.

          Cellphones were something that exploded in use as well. And the amount of content i’m able to get via just You-Tube is more than i would get with any Cable provider.

  72. Hyperion

    I’m one of the very few peeps working round these here parts today. So, Merry early Thanksgiving and don’t forget to talk to your family about bad orange man and shame them for their wrong think and not going out to find bad people in restaurants to harass, and how people are dying because of no healthcare.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      I’m one of the very few peeps working round these here parts today.

      Fake NEWS!

      Have some pocket versions of Economics in One Lesson to hand out as well.

      1. Hyperion

        “Have some pocket versions of Economics in One Lesson sentence to hand out as well.”

        Shut up and give us all your stuff, deplorable!

    2. Akira

      I’m the only non-“progressive” in my family. Every single get-together, they all want to talk about how horrible the Bad Orange Man is and how everyone who doesn’t sufficiently denounce him is a hardcore white nationalist homophobe. It gets tiresome trying to inject some reason and perspective into the conversation while 11 other people are just shouting “All Trump cares about is his money!” and “Obama was a great president!”

      1. Don Escaped Texas

        Figureheads are about identity politics. Ignore.

        I’m always up to discuss a policy, action, or philosophy.

  73. The Late P Brooks

    Arguments about Boomers versus Millennials crop up in other countries—hence the popularity of the “Okay, Boomer” meme in the U.S.—but the problem is particularly acute in Britain, because of the country’s steep fall in home ownership in recent decades. The British rental sector is much more “mom and pop”—literally. “Something like 20 percent of Boomers have a second property that they rent out,” Willetts said. That means there is a direct transfer of wealth from younger renters to older asset-owners.

    Property is theft.

    1. hayeksplosives

      Really trying to process at what point the “transfer” occurred.

      Doesn’t that imply the young’uns owned the property at some point?

      To the Manor Born?

      1. Hyperion

        Hate to post another ‘when I was growing up’ rant, but back then everyone I knew who had anything worked their asses off and it still took them decades to get to a well off state. Now you have kids graduating with worthless degrees their parents spent a small fortune on believing that they are owed the world as soon as they graduate, including everything that previous generations worked their entire life for. I say ‘tough shit, work for it or STFU’.

      2. leon

        Wealth can be transfered despite them not having had claim on the property. In fact that is the mechanism. Because they are renting, what a homeowner could count as some form of an investment, is pure consumption. That means the renters are having some wealth transferred from them to the owners.

        Of course this is the truth with any durable consumption good that is rented.

    2. leon

      That means there is a direct transfer of wealth from younger renters to older asset-owners.

      These same people will argue that government debt is not spending at the expense of future generations.

      1. Hyperion

        “These same people will argue that government debt is not spending at the expense of future generations.”

        Unless the bad orange guy won the last election.

    3. AlexinCT

      I saw this phenomenon before. People that demand to have the same standard of living as their parents – or a higher one – without putting in the time to get it. I remember a nephew telling me he felt the system was rigged because he looked at his parents and their peers and saw them have everything, yet he was struggling to live at that standard. When I pointed out that his parents, like the rest of us, had spent between 2 and 3 decades working hard and doing the right things (like saving and investing instead of immediately trying to live at a higher standard), to earn it, and he should account for that, he told me he didn’t want to wait.

      And that in a nutshell tells you what the problem is: an entitled mentality. These new generations (not just the millennials) want it all, but don’t want to put in the time and effort to get it. They feel they just deserve it.

      1. Hyperion

        Great minds think alike.

  74. The Late P Brooks

    I struggle with that. A part of me is like…fuck that guy. Not only did he take it personal that I left but he made all sorts of shitty accusations against me, but the other side is like…swallow your pride, be the bigger man, and go for a couple of hours and leave.

    Why would you let people guilt you into being uncomfortable (miserable?) for a day? Take your wife and baby to the zoo, instead.

  75. AlexinCT

    HAH! After creating this monster with his behavior, now he wants to block the result of the 8 years of his horrible administration’s bullshitting. Oh, the irony!

    1. Urthona

      So I have to ask: who does Obama like in this actually?

      I read this report that he was working against Sanders. He already said Biden “doesn’t have it”.

      Warren is basically the female Sanders and her popularity has dropped by half since she released her health care plan.

      He said of the two noob guys that it was much too late.

      Does he like Buttigieg? I can’t figure it out.

      Nobody?

      1. leon

        It’s fairly well known too that Obama camp despises the Warren Camp and vice-versa.

        1. Urthona

          He doesn’t seem to like anybody.

      2. AlexinCT

        So I have to ask: who does Obama like in this actually?

        As a classical narcissist, he would like himself…

        1. straffinrun

          Jinx.

      3. straffinrun

        Does he like Buttigieg? I can’t figure it out.

        Same question I had until I figured out the answer was, “himself”.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          “Why does that have to be the one amendment we stick to?”

          Barry

        2. whiz

          Duh, it’s Michelle.

          1. whiz

            Whoops, I should have scrolled down first… hi, Brooksie!

  76. KSuellington

    How about some Chinese government propaganda served up by the WaPo via SFGate? China does not want another 4 years of El Trumpo, so I expect we will get healthy doses of this kind of thing over the next year. They should maybe try a touch more subtlety next time.

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/China-hopes-Trump-will-be-reelected-because-he-s-14863569.php

    1. AlexinCT

      Funny how the people that once laughed at an idiot for pointing out Russia was still a threat and accused him of bringing back the red scare, only to regale us with that same shit for the last 3 or so years, and doing it dialed up to eleventy, feel sympathy and empathy with China, which has really been sticking it to us hard. Well, maybe funny is not the right word to use here….

      1. KSuellington

        I fully expect the legacy media will be calling foreign interference in the 2020 campaign a wacky conspiracy theory before long as soon as that narrative fits their needs.

  77. The Late P Brooks

    Wealth can be transfered despite them not having had claim on the property. In fact that is the mechanism. Because they are renting, what a homeowner could count as some form of an investment, is pure consumption. That means the renters are having some wealth transferred from them to the owners.

    Of course this is the truth with any durable consumption good that is rented.

    Renting may or may not be the optimum for everybody, but it’s not some sort of dire oppression and servitude. I didn’t own a house until I was in my forties. I moved around a lot. If anything (Hi, Mojeaux!) home ownership can be its own form of curse and servitude.

    I remember the old screeds about “Those damn Korean corner stores are hoovering all the money out of black neighborhoods!”

    There was an exchange of value in those transactions, but half of the voluntary exchange was conveniently ignored. As long as the Koreans weren’t robbing people at gunpoint, I don’t see what the problem is.

    1. leon

      y, but it’s not some sort of dire oppression and servitude. I didn’t own a house until I was in my forties. I moved around a lot. If anything (Hi, Mojeaux!) home ownership can be its own form of curse and servitude.

      For sure, I wasn’t trying to say that renting is oppressive, or even worse than outright ownership. Clearly it is beneficial for some people to just rent rather than try to front the enormous amount of wealth required to buy. And Ownership isn’t without it’s risks. I was just merely saying that just because someone doesn’t own something doesn’t mean you can’t characterize the situation as wealth being transferred.

      Of course their is the connotation that transfers are occurring by force, which in this case they aren’t.

    2. l0b0t

      I’m quite happy renting in NYC. Even if we could afford to do so, we would not buy real property here (excepting perhaps commercial rental space but we can’t afford it so eh, la, la…)

    3. Akira

      Renting may or may not be the optimum for everybody, but it’s not some sort of dire oppression and servitude. I didn’t own a house until I was in my forties. I moved around a lot. If anything (Hi, Mojeaux!) home ownership can be its own form of curse and servitude.

      I’m legit curious as to who these millennial whiners would complain to if they owned a home and suddenly found shit-water spewing up out of the shower drain every time they run the washer.

      Oh right, the government.

      1. Well, if the clog is in the main, it could very well be a government department you’re forced to deal with.

        1. Akira

          Fortunately, mine was apparently not; the plumbers just had to augur it progressively deeper until they found it. When they hit it, all the water immediately drained out of the shower. Been working fine ever since.

          Also fortunately, the owner of a large regional plumbing business lives right next door to me, so it’s easy to get plumbers out there.

          1. Oh, I just remembered, my drain doesn’t run directly to the main, it goes into the foundation of the apartment building next door first. I could be draining into their drain before reaching the main. (The two properties were likely the same at one point)

          2. Akira

            Interesting.

            A friend of mine bought an older home and had problems with a downstairs shower draining very slowly. He also noticed that there was water in the basement from some unknown source.

            Upon investigation, he found that that shower wasn’t actually connected to a drain – some previous owner had just dug a hole in the basement, filled it with gravel, ran the pipe down into that, and covered it all up.

            Never know what you’re gonna find when you buy these old houses.

  78. The Late P Brooks

    It’s so easy for me to tell the wife, “No, I don’t wanna do that so I’m not gonna do that.” Maybe I’m a psycho.

    Somebody told me, a while back, “You’re really good at saying no. I wish I was.”

    1. “No” is my favorite word. For everybody. If I can’t pause to think about the request, I say no immediately and then I may or may not revisit the request later. But everything is an automatic no.

  79. The Late P Brooks

    “If we draft Michelle at the convention, we’ll get Barry back.”

    1. AlexinCT

      WOOKIE POWER!