Jueves por la mañana enlaces mexicanos con desayuno

¡Buenos dias, glibs!  Sloopy is out getting paid, can’t blame him at all.  So lets see what we have this morning.

I was told mass shootings were a uniquely American phenomenon.

A bit of a human interest story about Argentine farmers.

It was a moment of victory for Macri, who had recently taken office, and of hope for farmers, who had been hobbled by the strict export limits imposed by the previous government. Since then, it has only been ups and downs.

Rossi says improved weather gave them some “oxygen” for this year’s harvest. But then Macri surprisingly turned in a worse showing in primary elections than the left-leaning Peronist candidate Alberto Fernández, causing stocks to plunge and the peso to depreciate even further in recession-hit Argentina, which has been struggling with rapidly rising prices and increasing poverty.

The primary results also coincided with a report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture that lowered estimates for Argentina’s soy and corn crops based on weather conditions, said Esteban Copati, head of agricultural forecasts at the Buenos Aires grains exchange.

“There was a double whammy,” Copati said. “On the one side, there was this change in the political scenario that changed the intention of growers to plant since they started to become fearful of what the policies of this new government could be. And on the other hand, there was the impact of the drop in international prices.”

This brings to mind this article regarding China purchasing said soybeans….grudgingly.

Cubans are now allowed to purchase certain goods with foreign currency.  What goods you ask?

Cuban officials announced Tuesday night that the prices of some consumer goods would drop for Cubans who create special new hard-currency bank accounts denominated in U.S. and Canadian dollars, Euros, British pounds, Swiss francs, Mexican pesos, Danish, Norwegian and Swedish kroner and Japanese yen.

Cubans will also be able to use the accounts to import goods through state-run companies, officials said on national television, although the precise mechanism for those private-public imports remains unclear.

Products that will be available for foreign currency include 43-inch flat-screen televisions, standing freezers, refrigerators and mini-split air conditioners. The discounts over current prices appear to be marginal — Reports in state media indicated that the government would still charge some 75 percent above the wholesale price. A 43-inch Samsung television, for example, would sell for $549, state media said, about twice the cost of a similar item in the U.S.

Buenas suerte…

They’re taking out free shit away! Burn them!

For some reason, government subsidies for gasoline are common in Latin America.  Protests in response to the removal of said subsidies are also common. What isn’t common is the government fleeing the capital in response to the protests.

Something that may be of interest to OMWC.

 

Have a catchy tune, and make Thursday great again!

 

Comments

574 responses to “Jueves por la mañana enlaces mexicanos con desayuno”

  1. PieInTheSky

    Right on time? Is that a Mexican joke? Or a glibs joke? Is that racist? Can you be racist if you are not pasty white? So many questions

    1. PieInTheSky

      Also what happened to the Astros? I waited all day to find out…

      1. Slammer

        The game was rained out. They play Today, Friday, Saturday and Sunday

        1. PieInTheSky

          Jesus baseball is so weak scared by a little rain. NBA would not stop for rain. Then again due to the China syndrome, I can no longer in good faith say NBA > MLB so I will say NBA == MLB

          1. PieInTheSky

            Does football stop for rain? Or hockey? Lacrosse?

          2. Basketball and hockey are played in roofed arenas.

            Football is played in the winter, and has been known to be played in the snow.

            Lacrosse? Doesn’t have a well-known professional organization.

          3. PieInTheSky

            Basketball and hockey are played in roofed arenas – details…

          4. What else is there to say? They’re played indoors. Rain, snow, doesn’t make a difference on the court/rink

          5. invisible finger

            I’ve seen several football games stopped for inclement weather.

          6. Unless the players froze to the field, I cry foul.

          7. Certified Public Asshat

            Well, usually for hurricanes or lightning.

          8. Bobarian LMD

            This. The Chiefs vs. Seahawks in the 90’s played a rain game.

            It was delayed for a little while due to lightning.

            3.6 to 6 inches of rain fell during the game on various parts of the city.

          9. Drake

            That was actually a pretty nasty storm last night. The rain has stopped but the wind is still pretty strong which should make for an interesting game.

        2. Slammer

          It’s even funnier that the Yankees built a multi-billion dollar stadium and wouldn’t put a retractable roof.

          1. Nephilium

            Meh. I’m a fan of leaving them open to the air. Especially for football… learn to run the ball.

          2. Slammer

            Football yes. Baseball no.

          3. invisible finger

            When did the Yankees build a stadium? 1929?

          4. Rasilio

            No, in 2006.

            The original Yankees stadium was torn down and retired a few years ago

          5. invisible finger

            The Yankees didn’t build anything in 2006, the taxpayers did despite not wanting to.

    2. Can you be racist if you are not pasty white?

      Absolutely. Racism is a colorblind affliction.

      1. Rasilio

        wait I thought being colorblind was considered racism these days

    3. PieInTheSky

      Also I never seen mexican sharpshooter so I may have been wrong to cast aspersions on his pasty whiteness

      1. You mean he’s not Danny Trejo from his avatar?

      2. Old Man With Candy

        I see him pretty regularly. We’re about equal swarthiness.

    4. blackjack

      If you’re Mexican, it takes forever for your whole family to get out of the car. Just ask your cousin, no the OTHER cousin, no the other, OTHER cousin.

    5. Tonio

      Yes.

    6. Nephilium

      Can you be racist if you are not pasty white?

      Of course, otherwise all of us pasty bastards could just go out into the sun for an hour or so and be Redlegs.

  2. I was told mass shootings were a uniquely American phenomenon.

    That’s not a mass shooting, that’s just workplace violence.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I am sure they were American guns! I blame Obama.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      How could it not happen with all the guns Holder sent down there?

    3. Suthenboy

      Impossible. Mexico has common sense gun laws.

  3. blackjack

    Great song. Right out of my 1970’s playlist ( I was a weird kid)

  4. PieInTheSky

    Cubans are now allowed to purchase certain goods with foreign currency. What goods you ask?

    So sell sex to tourists and but TVs? Or how does one not connected acquire sufficient hard currency? In commie Romania there was a black marked, but I assume in the purer communism of Cuba such things do not exist

    1. Tonio

      Many Cubans in Cuba receive money from relatives living abroad, most notably the large population of Cuban expatriates and their descendants living in Florida. Secondarily from tips from Canadians and Europeans who vacation in Cuba.

      1. AlexinCT

        What monetary value do you think they get from the ip to “Buy low and sell high, cause you never go broke making a profit” that I would give them if I were ever to want to visit a commie paradise?

  5. leon

    “”left-leaning Peronist candidate Alberto Fernández,”

    Left leaning candidate Joseph Stalin beat the right candidate Leon Trotsky

    1. AlexinCT

      Your woke-fu is strong, sir.

  6. Rufus the Monocled

    My friend’s wife is Mexican. They used to go twice a year to visit family. No more. Too violent. Dude straight up lit up when I asked him about the wall. ‘Absolutely the Americans need a wall. It’s chaos and violence now’. Worse, he explained it’s normalizing. A part of accepted life. So they decided no more. Buh-bye.

    1. PieInTheSky

      If the US was smart and conquered everything down to Panama in the 19th century, the Canal could serve as a moat. Also probably most of North America would be more civilized. Or less. Who knows. Point is. Could not be that much worse.

      1. Tonio

        Is that you, Rudyard Kipling?

        1. Rasilio

          Hey you have to give Kipling credit. He was advocating for empire to bring civilization to the barbarians but he was also honest about the costs

      2. Or, everything to the arctic could be like South America.

        1. PieInTheSky

          Neah you should have invaded Canada as well and it would have balanced out.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Two errors in North America history. The British not assimilated the French-Canadians (as per Lord Durham’s Report) deliberately leaving them alone so as to ‘keep the peace’ and the Yipee–ki-yay Yankees and their incompetence on how to properly invade.

            So bad the Canadian militia blind folded them, turned them around and kicked them in the ass and said, ‘pin that tale on the donkey!’

            Something like that.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            assimilating.

            Muppet’s axiom: Never restructure a sentence in mid-stream and keep going. You’ll forget the error needing to be repaired.

          3. Jarflax

            I violate the Muppet’s axiom every quite frequently. I tend to drag and drop phraalsoses and timessome miss.

      3. leon

        I don’t know. They don’t suffer under the rank tyranny that is the US Gov. I mean in Mexico you can drag your mayor down the street behind your truck

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          I hope you kid.

          It’s totes tyranny.

          1. leon

            Only slightly. I’m not familiar with Central America, but there are places like Uruguay, that seem to be much freer from an overpowering government than the United States. Sure they don’t have the same guarantees written down on a piece of paper, but it means they don’t have to constantly watch the courts wipe their ass with it.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            By some measures, even Quebec seems freer.

            We certainly don’t have SWAT and ATF running amok.

      4. nw

        We probably would have, but the civil war sort of got
        in the way.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          YOUR PROBLEM.

          Now you have to deal with us.

          1. *flicks rufus between the googly eyes*

          2. The Last American Hero

            We took your trophy and we took your drummer. How are you going to stop us when we want your trees or fracking fields?

          3. AlexinCT

            Don’t forget their strippers!

          4. Jarflax

            Trophy? Hell we took half the teams.

          5. Rufus the Monocled

            Using mostly Muppet Canadians to win that trophy!

  7. Slammer

    the government fleeing the capital

    Do you know who else left a capital to fight again another day?

    1. Tonio

      The Army of Northern Virginia?

    2. Millions of Taiwanese?

    3. invisible finger

      Hilary?

    4. Rebel Scum

      The Poles?

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder
    6. mexican sharpshooter

      The French?

    7. Rufus the Monocled

      Incompetent comic villains?

    8. Bobarian LMD

      itler?

      He left the capital.

        1. Jarflax

          It is uncivil to violate a trademark….

  8. Tonio

    “I was told mass shootings were a uniquely American phenomenon.” Only a shitlord would say something like that. Of course Mexicans are Americans; North Americans, even. Not that the term isn’t colonialist in itself. We should be using the indigenous peoples’ names for their homeland.

    1. leon

      “We should be using the indigenous peoples’ names for their homeland.”

      So… Mexican?

      1. straffinrun

        López Obrador told a news conference the ambush in Michoacan was “very regrettable”

        Geez, let’s hope that is just a bad translation.

        1. pan fried wylie

          RIP Michigan

  9. PieInTheSky

    Why can I not ever reproduce issues other people have with the tools I am maintaining? Goddamnit.

    1. That’s an axiom, tech support can never replicate the issue. It means there’s either something specifically wrong with the user, or the user’s machine.

      1. PieInTheSky

        I am not exactly tech support. I am a one man crew I develop the code, test it, deploy it, offer support. The testing part always sucks because it is better to have an independent tester, who does not know the code.

        1. AlexinCT

          In my experience doing tech support, I have practically always found the reported problem to be between the keyboard and the user’s seat.

          1. DrOtto

            In the auto repair world, it’s frequently the loose screw between the steering wheel and the seat.

          2. “The car caused the crash.”

            “How so?”

            “I turned on cruise control and it left the road!”

          3. Bobarian LMD

            The M2HB .50 caliber machine gun is probably the oldest and most reliable piece of equipment in the Army. It has two forms of adjustment, setting the head-space and timing on the weapon. If a .50 doesn’t operate, that is where the problem almost always exists.

            Therefore when most issues come up in something being fucked up, the expression is “There appears to be an issue with Operator Head-space and Timing”.

        2. Rasilio

          lol and there are some of us here who have been professional software testers for a quarter century

      2. Tonio

        “Problem is on user side of keyboard.”

        “Hippie Mike just called in another ID10T ticket.”

        1. Nephilium

          PEBTAC/PEBKAC errors, Problem Exists Between (Terminal/Keyboard) And Chair.

          And Pie: Agree completely about the testing, I just had to do a deployment where the group that was requesting all of the changes refused to do any UAT on the changes… I was unhappy about that. Thankfully, another business group stepped up to do the testing for them (and made decisions for that initial group as well).

          1. When I worked helpdesk, we had to record those calls as a “Training Issue”.

            It was an official record for the client company we were providing support for, after all.

          2. Nephilium

            In our Service Now instance, we’ve got both Internal notes and Public notes. Information like that is always included int he Internal notes. My personal favorites are people having one off issues trying to blame it on a system wide issue.

            “My VM box is locked! Could it be a system problem?”

            “No. No it is not.”

          3. We have too many managers who would not take kindly to those kinds of private notes.

            And I’m not sure the service now setup here is configured to make the activity notes hidden from the users.

          4. leon

            I’d have that.

            “I think your system is down, no one in my building can access it”

            “huh, it works for us here”

            “Yeah it works for guys at our other building too.”

            (trying not to be rude) “then I think something is wrong with your network”

            “No.IT said it was good. Did you mess up our network?”

            “Sir if it’s reachable from your end at a different location then the system we works, you need to tell that to your IT”

            “They say everything is fine”….

          5. Rhywun

            Yeah… I was always tempted by that “internal” discussion feature but too afraid of, I dunno, unleashing a tirade and fucking it up. So I didn’t use it.

          6. Caput Lupinum

            Fun fact: the work notes field on incident is an HTML field, and allows you to embed images without attaching them to the ticket so they don’t get included in client facing notifications. Enjoy your memes.

          7. Scruffy Nerfherder

            so they don’t get included in client facing notifications

            Years ago we had a little security incident concerning some classified frequencies. A Lockheed-Martin engineer had faxed over a specification to us including the frequencies, a big no-no.

            We had to file an incident report with the DOD and our receiving engineer had to fill out the forms.

            Among the questions was “Why did this happen?” Our engineer wrote “Lockheed’s engineer is an idiot.”

            This, of course, did not get caught by our security manager and was sent to the DOD who shared it with Lockheed. Hilarity ensued.

          8. So what was the frequency, Kenneth?

          9. PieInTheSky

            Thing is if I can think of a test scenario I also code it in… I need someone who thinks different than me to test

          10. ChipsnSalsa

            agreed.

            “You’re right, I would have never thought to put in “donkey” for the tank diameter. But there it is “donkey” in the field, and you’re saying the rest of the design crapped out?”

          11. pan fried wylie

            Pretty sure everyone here would restrict the tank diameter field to numeric input only.

            *”You’re right, I would have never thought to put an IP address for the tank diameter…”

          12. Not so fast. The date field where I work has to be eight digits (MMDDYYYY), no other characters.

            Things that aren’t in that format don’t necessarily prompt us to correct it.

          13. Rasilio

            A QA engineer walks into a bar. Orders a beer. Orders 0 beers. Orders 99999999999 beers. Orders a lizard. Orders -1 beers. Orders a ueicbksjdhd.

            First real customer walks in and asks where the bathroom is. The bar bursts into flames, killing everyone.

            The story of my life

          14. Why didn’t the QA engineer order any shots or cocktails?

            What about food besides lizard?

            Where was the testing for ordering from stool versus table versus booth?

            Your test plan needs revision.

        2. leon

          When I worked tech support I would have this one user call in all the time:

          “Why doesn’t Feature X do Y?”

          “because it was designed to do X not Y”

          “Yeah but I want to do Y”.

          “K, I’ll add this as a suggestion”

          “No, it’s a bug, I want it to do Y but it’s broken and won’t.”

          “No, Y is not possible with feature X”

          “It’s worked in the past, but the latest update broke it”

          “Sir that was never a supported use case.”

          1. PieInTheSky

            I had a situation something like

            A check suite had 6 checks. These were requested implemented used for several years. Than a 7th check is requested. On the requrements list: Bugfix: check 7 missing. I was like bugfix my ass, but the guy then told me it is easier to get time/budget for a bugfix than a new check because users feel there are to many checks already

          2. Nephilium

            At my old place, I got in trouble for closing tickets out as “Working as Intended.” My boss made me start using “Working as Designed.”

          3. invisible finger

            I had a boss often argue that “It’s a bug in the design.”

            My countering “You approved the bugs” never seemed to matter. Until one of his bosses used it as a reason to eliminate his position.

          4. leon

            “It’s a bug in the design.”

            WTF? So the design wasn’t designed as designed?

            Certainly there can be new feature requests and changes, for unforseen use cases, but “bug in the design”…

          5. invisible finger

            Yeah, like 737 MAX…

          6. Brett L

            Bro — That’s an “undocumented feature”

          7. Rasilio

            Bugs in the design are far more common than actual coding errors.

            The problem is the developer fails to understand the requirements properly, no this is not a problem with the requirements, that is an entirely different classification one I should add which is even more common that bugs in the design but it is not uncommon at all for a developers design to be incapable of properly satisfying either the functional or non functional requirements of the system.

          8. Nephilium

            Rasilio: I’ve seen both. Some seriously boneheaded design requests from the business side, and developers not understanding what the design requests are actually looking for but implementing something anyways. That’s not even talking about implementing something that is a PITA to maintain going forward.

          9. invisible finger

            Oh there are absolutely legit bugs in designs.

            I only bring it up because the particular individual who made a habit of saying this would never admit to a bug in design until beta testing was done. The dozen times people would mention the design issues prior to QA, he would typically say “No, it’ll be fine; nobody will use it like that, we’ll document it so it’s not a problem; its a training issue, etc.” Every excuse in the book. Then when beta testing is done and the shit is obvious and the deadline will be missed, he used that as his excuse to get “just one more feature” added to the product. He did this because a couple features he wanted in got denied by the product review committee and this was his way of getting his pet features added by bypassing them. He’d tell the CEO “You’re going to walk away from a $4M comtract because you don’t want to delay a release for two weeks?” Every CEO let him get away with it because they changed CEO’s often enough. Finally one guy stuck around long enough to figure out the game and fired him.

          10. invisible finger

            Try to think of Sanders or Warren on tech support.

            “Nobody needs more than one feature.”

            “This is unacceptable! When I become CEO, I will create a multi-trillion dollar project to investigate this.”

            I didn’t sleep well.

          11. Nobody needs more than one feature

            I like that design philosophy. Each tool sould do one thing, do it well, and do it as efficiently as possible.

          12. invisible finger

            Kinda defeats the purpose of computers, no?

          13. You’ve never worked on a unix machine, have you?

          14. invisible finger

            For decades.

          15. Then you know the computer only adds and subtracts bits very quickly and good tools exploit this to do one thing each.

          16. invisible finger

            Not sure what your point is here. People don’t complain about individual tools not working so much as integrated systems not working.

          17. It’s easier to fix when you can swap out the broken part.

            Get a giant black box and you’re spending years on one issue.

          18. invisible finger

            So you’re skipping over the “find the part that’s broken” step.

            You can have one 500-feature tool, or 500 one-feature tools. The end result is the same.

          19. Not really. It’s always been easier to trace the breakdown to the source when they’re not all clobbed together into one ball of spaghetti.

          20. And yes, I have had to pick apart issues in both situations.

          21. invisible finger

            And my experience has been the exact opposite.

          22. “It’s worked in the past, but the latest update broke it”

            “Sir that was never a supported use case.”

            I have been this person, using a workaround to get the thing to do what I want. (I am the queen of the workaround solution.) Off-label utilities #FTW! And then, yes, an update breaks it.

            You can’t really accuse a relatively clever user who found a way to make the thing do what they wanted it to do of operator error when the utility no longer functions the way the user needs it to for his job.

          23. Jarflax

            “The path is this:
            Developer releases “Pile of Crap 1.0”
            Users spend a couple years figuring out how to do everything they need with it, tweaking it until it is no longer a Pile of Crap.

            Meanwhile back at the code ranch…

            Boss “This is a pile of crap, needs moar cowbell”

            Supportmonkeys “every user complaint we get says NOONE USES @#$%^& cowbell, literally every complaint is that you have to change the default setting in register 347 to off to make the thing work, why don’t we just ship it with 347 off by default?”

            Boss “MOAR COWBELL, and we can’t have users changing things, make sure 347 can no longer be changed!”

          24. Boss: Sales are down, you clearly didn’t add enough Cowbell. While you’re at it, end support on Pile of Crap 1.0, we need those users to upgrade!

          25. This is why I never update anything. No, I don’t forget. I refuse. Drives my husband crazy.

          26. invisible finger

            The typical IT cop-out is “you should be trying this on a test system first”. Which is an added cost. And then they wonder why people don’t upgrade and cancel support. As if ending support for an “old release” on the vendor side of the equation is any different.

          27. Given the number of black box patches that have broken things, we always patch test environments first. Having production down is an added cost greater than having lower environments.

            Oh, you meant for home and small business where the only environment is prod. Sorry Mojeaux.

          28. What is “the only environment is prod” mean?

          29. You only have one setup, and it is where you do your actual work.

            Prod = production.

          30. does*

            Stupid iPad wouldn’t let me go back and change it.

    2. Nephilium

      Because they didn’t include all of the details on the reproduction instructions?

      It’s amazing how many phone problems don’t happen when agents are watched to try to reproduce the problem.

      1. Like I said, something wrong with the user.

        1. AlexinCT

          “What do you mean I can’t ignore the error message your stupid system gave me when I tried to force it to do something it will not allow and pretend it should have worked?”

      2. Fatty Bolger

        It’s often something they do when they don’t get an immediate response. “It’s taking more than 2 seconds, I’ll just start hitting keys randomly until it works.”

        1. mikey

          Yeah, so what’s wrong with that?

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      Running joke in the dept here is that everything works when I get called over to look at something that isn’t working properly. Computers fear me and start behaving properly when I come around. Or the user finally goes through the correct process and gets the correct results.

      1. All that is required is to have a technician look over the user’s shoulder and the problem goes into remission. It’s not unique to you.

        1. Jarflax

          It is not unique to IT. Ever had a car that wouldn’t make the odd noise for the mechanic?

          1. No.

            The Odd noise was a known warranty issue with a cable harness that needed a rubber inset to stop scraping the cabling across bare metal at highway speeds.

  10. “Something that may be of interest to OMWC.”

    Needz moar prepubescent girls.

  11. Rufus the Monocled

    You want Trudeau news? Here’s your Trudeau news. Trudeau news is the best news. Because his news is our entertainment:

    https://buffalochronicle.com/2019/10/07/trudeau-is-rumored-to-be-in-talks-with-an-accusor-to-suppress-an-explosive-sex-scandal-that-may-force-him-from-office/

    1. Please tell me the accuser is male…

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        All I know is Justin (e) likes to stick his pipi out a lot. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit he swings. He’s a total creep. He looks the part. And when you pay close attention to his mannerisms, he leaves clues to being a creep.

        “Trudeau’s accuser is said to be a former student at West Point Grey Academy and the daughter of a wealthy Canadian businessman.”

        This businessman owns the most jelly beans in the land!

      2. straffinrun

        Why?

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Why what.

          1. straffinrun

            Why would it be different if it were a guy? Trudeau is a dirtbag regardless, no?

          2. It would be funnier.

          3. straffinrun

            It’s funny when a socon that has been railing against da homosekchuals is busted for that. Trudeau? He hasn’t done that at least.

          4. No, that’s just sad.

          5. straffinrun

            Nothing funny about, “And Sodom found out what the lord thought of what they were doing” on Sunday and then on Monday they’re sucking dick in an airport bathroom stall? Funny to me.

          6. Nope, nothing funny about that. Just sad.

          7. straffinrun

            Which part is sad? The sermonizing or the sucking dick part?

          8. Which part is funny?

          9. Bobarian LMD

            The airport stall part adds a certain something to the situation.

          10. R C Dean

            Well, if a wokester like Trudeau is gay or bi and hasn’t come out, it seems just as hypocritical, only from a different direction.

          11. straffinrun

            I’ll give you that. Didn’t see that angle.

          12. Rufus the Monocled

            That was the angle all along.

            He’s a SJW PM. Scolding and lecturing like Kerr and Popovich and then when the shit gets real, he’s a hypocrite like the rest.

            Assholes.

            It has nothing to do with being gay. Except that, a) he lies about it (if true) and b) there are indicators some of them may have been minors.

          13. straffinrun

            Then say that earlier. I miss jokes all the time and had no idea. I even asked “Why?” and now I’m explaining when blow jobs are funny and when they aren’t.

          14. Bobarian LMD

            They are never funny when it’s your dick, or your mouth.

            But that won’t stop the rest of us from laughing.

      3. DrOtto

        The old rules (never get caught with a dead girl/live boy) don’t apply anymore, at least not for a prog. A white male sticking it in a girl is totes oppresion though. If it was a boy he could claim it was his truth and brave or some such BS.

        1. Or, if it’s dead black men, you need about three of them carted out of your apartment.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      Sex with underage girls? Like father, like son, eh?

    3. Gdragon

      I’d love for that to be real but my initial take is that it seems “fake”.

  12. PieInTheSky

    This Kristian Niemietz fella amuses me, for a kraut

    https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1184590883276181505

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Khmer Vert, that’s pretty good.

    2. Tonio

      “Eco-communism = Pol Pot + wind turbines + The Hobbit”

      Somebody needs to recruit this guy for us.

    3. PieInTheSky

      This also amused me

      https://twitter.com/K_Niemietz/status/1183848943769346050

      This Boy is Exhausted ?? ☭ :

      Neither, I’m just a Marxist, with some Puerto Rican nationalist tendencies.

      Kristian Niemietz is a man of the people now:

      Has Marxism with Puerto Rican nationalist tendencies ever been tried?

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        That led to this: https://twitter.com/anarchopac

        Disabled trans woman. Libertarian communist youtuber. I like anarchism, feminism and Marxism. Doing a PhD on anarchist history.

        Lol at people who think all YouTubers are petite bourgeois. Why are you applying 19th century categories onto modern forces and relations of production. YouTubers vary from actual bourgeois – Jake Paul – to professional communist theory influencers – me.

        Don’t even know where to start with that one.

        1. leon

          “to professional communist theory influencers – me.”

          Karl Marx is on YouTube? Trust me you ain’t a theory influencer. You’re just a bulshit peddler.

          1. AlexinCT

            When the subject is marxism, is there a difference between a bullshit peddler or an influencer?

          2. The number of people who listen a believe?

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          Libertarian communist is an oxymoron.

          Only crackheads, Steve Kerr, and women with four tits (two in the front, two in the back) can think this.

          I am Funny Bot.

        3. R C Dean

          Somebody is paying xer to be a communist theory influencer? Who? Why?

      2. Jarflax

        Has Marxism with Puerto Rican nationalist tendencies ever been tried?

        Yes

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      I am Funny Bot.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Someone explain “commuter subjectivity” to me.

        1. PieInTheSky

          Apparently the commuters of a busy subway stop at peak time were not pleased when Extinction Rebellion tried to stop the subway from leaving.

          1. PieInTheSky

            Apparently it is a class consciousness issue, they should have realized they are oppressed wage slave by the very fact that they were bothered about being late for work

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Ahhh, a Plato’s Cave scenario.

            They love themselves some false consciousness.

          3. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Where does the subjectivity come in?

          4. AlexinCT

            I loved reading about these “protesters” getting their asses whooped trying to be the asshats they are. People have finally decided they have had enough of these woke people grandstanding and disrupting the lives of those of us just trying to make a living.

  13. Slammer

    Photo from inside yesterday’s White House meeting

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      That cat. My sister sent me a meme with it a couple of years back. Cats are the best.

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      I believe Trump.

      He may be a head case but Pelosi et al are straight up bat shit crazy.

  14. Thot Thursday stimulates body dysmorphia in women everywhere.

    http://archive.is/q8kYy

  15. Rebel Scum

    I was told mass shootings were a uniquely American phenomenon.

    And the murder rate is lower in countries with stricter gun control…except when it isn’t*.

    *The last time I argued with a peer about this he was too dense to grasp the fallacy of comparing countries to countries. I.e. there are too many variables and no consistent correlation between gun laws and violence.

    1. I don’t remember the exact stats, but something like 85% of US homicides take place in 10 counties. Remove those, and the homicide rate is lower than most of Europe.

      1. Rebel Scum

        Yup, and most other violent crime is in the same areas and in cities.

        Also, as similar percentage of violence using firearms is done with handguns. A tiny fraction is done with rifles, and something like 5 times as many homicides by knife than rifles of all types… But we aren’t supposed to acknowledge this because Orange Man Black Rifles Bad.

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Don’t forget they dishonestly lump suicides in with those numbers in the US. Someone’s still dead, sure, but it isn’t the same.

        1. So we should lump Japanese suicides in with their murders?

          1. leon

            Suicide is only important if you use a gun.

        2. Akira

          And I wonder how many murders in the US are related to the illegal drug trade. Not that those deaths don’t matter or shouldn’t be prevented, but I think there’s a big difference between drug dealers killing each other and innocent people getting murdered in a home invasion or something.

      3. straffinrun

        Is that true if you removed the highest homicide rate areas in European countries and then compared the numbers? (Hyperbole has been rubbing off on me)

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          ewwwwww

          1. straffinrun

            I’m just sayin’. (He’s been rubbing off on me, too.)

          2. Everybody stop wanking on straffinrun!

          3. straffinrun

            Not funny.

          4. straffinrun

            OK. It’s funny. Anyone got a wet wipe?

        2. mexican sharpshooter

          Thank you, I was going to point out outliers in the data are still part of the data.

          Not that it changes my mind at all on the issue. More guns!

        3. Jarflax

          I was going to post the same thing. Homicide rates are usually higher in urban settings, they also vary with ethnicity, economic status, education level, employment and a bunch of things that don’t start with an e. I do not think you can actually isolate for a single variable, just like with every other question in sociology. That’s a big reason sociology is not science (the other reason is that almost all sociologists are marxists)

      4. Brawndo

        Another tidbit I remember reading somewhere; in the UK, a murder only counts as a murder when a conviction is obtained.

        1. Just like their infant mortality rates, where a child who dies in a few days of birth is reclassified as ‘stillborn’.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          You know Bert got me fired, right?

          1. Well, you needed better proof before trying to #MeToo him.

          2. Jarflax

            Ernie looks up shocked.

            “Bert you whore! You slept with Rufus too?”

          3. He’s the reason I live in a trashcan.

    2. Slammer

      And the murder rate is lower in countries with stricter gun control

      Even if it was true, I don’t care

      1. It’s not, but that never stopped them from lying.

      2. Rebel Scum

        Constitutionally speaking, it would be irrelevant. But nobody gives that consideration anymore.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        This is actually the correct reaction. Good job.

    3. Suthenboy

      “…no consistent correlation between gun laws and violence.”

      But there is between violence and culture and since all cultures are unique in some subtle and some not so subtle ways you are correct. Those comparisons are useless.

  16. Rebel Scum

    I suspect it is Trumps fault.

    Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) – a key figure in the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump – has died of “health complications” at 68.

    Cummings died at Johns Hopkins Hospital at 2:45 a.m. Thursday morning from “complications concerning longstanding health challenges,” his office said.

    He hadn’t returned to work after having a medical procedure he said would only keep him away for about a week, the Baltimore Sun noted.

    The procedure already caused Cummings to miss a September hearing on Washington, D.C., statehood. The statement didn’t detail the procedure.

    He previously was treated for heart and knee issues.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      Lame.

    2. It was a knee infection. Getting heart work done with an active infection is a recipe for disaster. Poor bastard was doomed.

    3. Slammer

      His crooked wife will take the seat

      1. How is that even legal? She was never elected. It should stay vacant until the next election. It’s a house seat, so there’s one every two years.

        1. Pope Jimbo

          I know with Senate seats the governor can name a replacement and it is common for them to name the wife. I’m not sure what happens with House seats.

          1. AlexinCT

            Bitch wants to get paid!

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        For real? When did the U.S. become a Merry Monarchy?

        1. Slammer

          No. I don’t know. I was just spitballing.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            Well put that spit back in your balls.

          2. Rufus the Monocled

            I am Funny Bot.

          3. Jarflax

            They hold a special election at the next election date (primary date or general date). They happen all the time.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      I was going to link to this story too. But I was going to make it Cummings and Goings.

      Truly Washington has lost a bright light.

      1. Slammer

        Cummings and goings ALOL

    5. Certified Public Asshat

      My warmest condolences to the family and many friends of Congressman Elijah Cummings. I got to see first hand the strength, passion and wisdom of this highly respected political leader. His work and voice on so many fronts will be very hard, if not impossible, to replace!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2019

      Don’t read the replies. Or do, because it can be fun.

      1. Rhywun

        I think I won’t.

      2. Rebel Scum

        This isn’t how you tweeted about him when he was alive. You are scum.

        It is customary to be respectful to the recently deceased.

        1. R C Dean

          When he was alive, he could defend himself. Now that he can’t, I don’t criticize him.

          See, also, simple human decency. You should try it sometime.

          1. Jarflax

            Now do Trump after Mccain…

  17. Certified Public Asshat

    Rat infestation to blame? U.S. Rep. Elijah Cummings dies

    In July, Trump began a weeklong series of tweets and comments attacking the congressman, his hometown of Baltimore and his congressional district, which Trump called “rat and rodent infested.” Cummings chose not to respond directly but in a National Press Club speech decried “racist language” used by the nation’s leaders and urged them to “work together for the common good.”

    “God has called me to this moment. I did not ask for it,” he said in the speech.

    He didn’t choose the grifter life…

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I wonder if he’ll accuse Saint Peter of being a bigot when he denies him passage through the pearly gates for being a crook.

      1. AlexinCT

        That was just you asking a question you already knew the answer for was “Yes”, right?

    2. PieInTheSky

      Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism.

      And yes, I will continue to post this kind of thing because I find it entertaining

      1. “Recommended fix – Remove European Union and try again.”

        1. Rhywun

          Romexit!

          1. Jarflax

            You know who else wanted to get rid of the Rom?

          2. Rhywun

            Qu-

            dammit

    3. Slammer

      Today he helped Baltimore more than he ever has

      1. Rhywun

        *snort*

        Except the machine probably has an even worse grifter already lined up.

    4. Timeloose

      Didn’t they model the congressman from the wire Clay Davis on him? Sheeeeit!!!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0A7TofowE

      1. Brawndo

        Possibly, but I think Elijah Cummings and Clay Davis fill different offices. US rep vs Maryland state senator

  18. Tonio

    “primary results also coincided with a report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture”

    Sounds like the US Government is interfering in Argentine elections. Somebody should say something.

    1. leon

      See something say something

  19. Suthenboy

    Burgeoning industry in Bolivia? Wait until Comrade President Morales finds out about that.

    1. mexican sharpshooter

      You never know. Dump enough money into anything you might get a few stragglers that avoid crashing into the mountain.

    2. mexican sharpshooter

      Okay, thats mean. Other South American countries have fairly successful wine industries, they might see it as a cash cow.

  20. PieInTheSky

    Adults’ Political Leanings Linked With Early Personality Traits

    https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/adults-political-leanings-linked-with-early-personality-traits.html

    Findings from both studies indicate that children who showed higher levels of conduct problems — that is, aggression, fighting, stealing from peers — were more likely to be economically left leaning and distrustful of the political system as adults,

    Since when are left leaning distrustful of the political system except when it is not them in power?

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      It’s nice to indulge in confirmation bias but bullshit psychology is just as bullshitty when it condemns the left and it’s wonderful how they link distrustfulness of govt with conduct problems.

    2. AlexinCT

      Since when are left leaning distrustful of the political system except when it is not them in power?

      ^^^THIS^^^

      These people’s distrust or dislike of power is only active when it is not their side in power.

  21. Rebel Scum

    CNN journalist accidentally practices journalism

    Host Carol Costello asked O’Rourke, “You expect mass shooters to follow the law?”

    O’Rourke responded, “Our fellow Americans will follow the law, yes.”

    Costello countered, “Mass shooters … don’t follow the law — by definition.” She added, “It doesn’t make sense that people are going to hand over their ‘assault weapons’ if they’re mass shooters. If they want to do harm to people, they’re not going to follow the law.”

    O’Rourke responded to Costello’s line of questioning by suggesting that anticipated compliance with a legislative proposal ought not be the litmus test for whether the proposal is adopted.

    He added that legitimate constitutional authority regarding the proposed legislation also ought not be considered.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      So. He’s a tyrant.

      Awk-ward.

      I am Funny Bot.

      1. Bob Boberson

        Worse. He’s a pajama-boy tyrant.

    2. Suthenboy

      As a lad I was taught law needs to be 1) known to all, 2) followed by majority and 3) enforced.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        By Beto stating constitutional authority adds another dimensions to three points. The immorality of a law.

        How this is not decried as straight up tyrannical is beyond me.

        1. Rebel Scum

          I said the constitutional thing in jest. But it is the next logical step.

      2. Jarflax

        Unless you are over 85 that wasn’t true even when you were a child. Legislation by regulation breaks 1 and often 2, but BOY does it follow 3.

    3. R C Dean

      “compliance with a legislative proposal ought not be the litmus test for whether the proposal is adopted”

      Well, legislation as virtue signaling isn’t exactly new.

      1. Bobarian LMD

        The best laws are the ones you can selectively enforce.

  22. Nephilium

    So, maybe have a plan before traveling one way to another country.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Rapper from Japan with dreams of meeting Bone Thugs gets stranded in Cleveland

      Stupid is as stupid does.

      1. Nephilium

        I also enjoyed the detail that they had to use a phone translation app to communicate with him. Did he expect to find a large number of people who could speak Japanese in Cleveland?

    2. “Konnichi wa, homey-san”

      1. AlexinCT

        Beat me to it!

        1. Ever get concerned with the number of times you come up with the same thoughts that I do?

      2. homey-san

        ?????

    3. PieInTheSky

      Sorry, this content is not available in your region.

      Brevity. I like it. The Baltimore Sun could learn a thing or two

      1. Jarflax

        Working as designed Comrade. We are just getting back to the proper State control of information.

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      That story though. Starts sad, picks up a little and then….

      “I was born in Japan, and I am going to die in the United States,” he said.”

      Awk-ward.

      I am Funny Bot.

    5. straffinrun

      Ryo Muranaka said he sold everything to travel 6,000 miles from Japan to Cleveland’s east side.

      Everything was worth $990. That’s sad.

      1. egould310

        It sounds like Cleveland let him down, one last time. And then Lou Reed found out Trump had been impeached, and before he died, shot himself in the nuts. Then the drugs fell out of his ass.

        1. Enough About Palin

          That reminds me. When we used to drive north on I-94, there was this house tat we passed and every time, someone would point to the house and say, “You know Vern Gagne got high on PCP in that house and cut off his dick with a credit card.

    6. ChipsnSalsa

      I smell a comedy of errors movie on this one.

      Someone more creative than me can take it from here.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Michael Cera plays the Japanese guy.

        1. AlexinCT

          Why not Dave Chappelle?

          1. Bobarian LMD

            ^^This. Dave Chappelle as Ryo Muranaka and Michael Cera as Bone Thugs.

    7. Rhywun

      They should let him stay. That area needs all the help it can get. Maybe he can start a record label or something….

  23. The Late P Brooks

    It’s not about the money

    About 300,000 students have no idea when they’ll see their teachers again as members of the Chicago Teachers Union go on strike Thursday.
    More than 25,000 educators and their supporters started picketing at their local schools at 6:30 a.m. (7:30 a.m. ET). Later, they’ll unite at a mass rally at 1:30 p.m.
    The union’s demands reflect what teachers across the country have been clamoring for: smaller class sizes, more support staff and higher raises.
    But in Chicago, the dynamics are different — and in some cases, dire.

    About 75% of students qualify for free or reduced lunch. In some neighborhoods, gangs and violence permeate the streets.

    School social worker Emily Penn fought back tears when describing how badly students need more support staff.
    “Our students suffer from trauma. They suffer from so many things they need help coping with,” Penn said.
    Many child deaths are “by suicide and by guns. This is a fact in Chicago,” she said.
    The school district has offered hundreds more support staff and 16% raises for teachers — an average of about $19,000.

    But teachers say those concessions aren’t enough.

    Instead of wasting their time teaching those kids algebra, maybe they should teach them to embrace their inner femininity.

    1. With the teachers in question, the students are probably getting better instruction with them AWOL than whe the teachers were there.

    2. leon

      “Chicago Teachers Union go on strike Thursday.
      More than 25,000 educators ”

      No one needs more that 25,000 educators.

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      The CTU spends more time on strike than they do teaching.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        All they want is to be paid more to teach fewer students.

        1. AlexinCT

          I think the ultimate goal is to get paid -and get paid a lot – and not have to do any sort of real work whatsoever. And to have that without any accountability.

          1. Rhywun

            Hey, it works for the Long Island Rail Road.

          2. invisible finger

            How’s that working out for their pension fund?

          3. Bobarian LMD

            Why do you think I got into government work in the first place.

    4. Certified Public Asshat

      The school district has offered hundreds more support staff and 16% raises for teachers — an average of about $19,000.

      What!?

      1. Brawndo

        Im imagining the raise for the lower paid teachers is still in the 8-10g range. Incredible that this is being turned down

        1. I wonder if it was even put to a vote of the membership.

          1. AlexinCT

            Voters are unreliable, as the 2016 election showed, and might vote against their interests (meaning the union and the democrats running the shithole’s government’s interests). Can’t have that shit.

        2. invisible finger

          It’s butthurt over the fact that the union-endorsed mayoral candidate lost. So they’re going to grandstand for a larger deal than they would have settled for from the union-endorsed candidate.

      2. blackjack

        Yeah, we got 2.5 per year for three years. Our union sucks balls.

        1. Our union lobbied for pay cuts.

          While cutting government spending is a plus, it’s sort of not the expected behaviour.

    5. invisible finger

      The gangs do a better job of educating the children. Homeyschooling, yo.

    6. Rebel Scum

      Public employee strikes should be illegal because it is monopolized. And all of these “educators” should be fired on the spot.

      1. They are illegal in New York.

    7. Rhywun

      in Chicago, the dynamics are different

      Uh huh.

      If Illinois is anything like New York, those districts are already awash in more cash and administrators than anywhere else in the state.

      1. So the correct answer is to dissolve the CCSD and send the students to less disfunctional institutions free from the current administration.

      2. AlexinCT

        How dare you deny that the problem isn’t the methodology or the system, but the fact that people like you will not let the perps that inflicted this on the people to just double down on more of the same stupid shit that is causing the problem? Have you not read the wisdom of people like Krugabe that clearly point out that the problem is never with the woke and idiotic liberal policy, but with the fact not enough money is being flushed down the toilet!

  24. Slammer

    UK and EU strike new Brexit deal in last-ditch talks

    “We have a great new Brexit deal,” U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson tweeted. He called on British lawmakers to back the deal when it’s put before Parliament on Saturday

    European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker called the deal “fair and balanced.”

    1. If Juncker likes it’ it’s a terrible deal.

      1. Rhywun

        That was my first thought.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Time to move the old 401K over into stocks for a bit then.

    3. Rufus the Monocled

      ‘WE HAVE A DEAL! WE WILL CUT THE COUNTRY IN HALF!’

  25. PieInTheSky

    Some McDonald’s, KFC, Domino’s and Nandos meals could be BANNED if new NHS calorie counts given green light

    https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1184616260316909580

    1. Suthenboy

      “Top Doc Dame Sally has made the proposals to tackle the nation’s fat epidemic”

      Bullshit. It is just a matter of time before they implement the Chavez/Maduro strategy.

    2. Bobarian LMD

      WTF is a Nando?

      1. Jarflax

        Portuguese food as fast food from South Africa according to Google.

      2. It’s pretty good. Pricey, but good. I’ve been a couple times.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Schiff pushed Volker to say Ukraine felt pressure from Trump

    In a secret interview, Rep. Adam Schiff, leader of the House Democratic effort to impeach President Trump, pressed former United States special representative to Ukraine Kurt Volker to testify that Ukrainian officials felt pressured to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter as a result of Trump withholding U.S. military aid to Ukraine.

    Volker denied that was the case, noting that Ukrainian leaders did not even know the aid was being withheld and that they believed their relationship with the U.S. was moving along satisfactorily, without them having done anything Trump mentioned in his notorious July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.

    When Volker repeatedly declined to agree to Schiff’s characterization of events, Schiff said, “Ambassador, you’re making this much more complicated than it has to be.”

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Boy this Schiff guys is a real jerk.

      1. Yeah. You know that whole “can’t judge a book by it’s cover” thing? I’ve come to believe that, at least in some measure, that’s not true. Some people look like assholes. Adam Schiff looks like an asshole. I don’t think it’s so much physical attributes per se as it is how the person carries his or herself, facial expressions, etc.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Like I said about Trudeau, some people just exude assholery.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            Adam Shiff action figure.

            With lifelike hair.

    2. leon

      “Ambassador, you’re making this much more complicated than it has to be.””

      I would love it if Schiff started yelling and crying that this was selectively quoted, taken out of context and partly made up.

  27. Drake

    Red Flag laws working as designed.

    An 84-year-old former police officer, and veteran of the Korean War, who was working as a school crossing guard, was fired, and had his guns confiscated, after a waitress overheard parts of a conversation he was having with a friend at a diner.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I saw that over at another site. The snitch waitress and the local police dept should be metaphorically tarred and feathered and nonmetaphorically sued.

      1. Not metaphorically. Sued, and criminally prosecuted with hot tar and feathers as the punishment. If they survive, they’re exiled from the community.

        1. Bob Boberson

          Tangentially related: I’ve got my thin-blue line SoCon Dad reading Will Grigg. There are cracks forming in his world-view. This pleases me greatly.

          1. I have neither mercy nor pity for criminals, badged or not.

    2. leon

      SLT:

      The argument for Red Flag laws is in part that a concerned friend and relative wants the guns taken away for the safety of the individual in question. Allowing any random asshole call it in brings in a whole new level of due process abridgement. This is Leagalized Harassment of a sub culture that the left does not like.

      1. Bob Boberson

        ‘Confiscate the guns first, due process later’…….may we never lose sight of who said this.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Was it Hitler?

          1. Bob Boberson

            Don’t know but it’s probably in Mein Kampf somewhere

        2. Tejicano

          In this case there will be no due process. Even though the police and all parties have agreed that the statement was heard out of context and the veteran had no bad intentions they are still taking away his license to own guns (Massachusetts) and will not return his guns to him.

          So he did nothing wrong and everybody agrees about that but his guns are forfeit aa well as his legal ability to own any guns. WTF kind of due process is that?

          1. leon

            I would posit that being punished before guilt has been determined automatically removes the possibility of any due process

          2. Tejicano

            But continuing with punishment after innocence has been established is even beyond that.

          3. Stinky Wizzleteats

            He’s old and will likely be dead by the time this case moves through the courts would be my guess as to why they’re pursuing this so vigorously.

          4. straffinrun

            This seems like the type of case where you couldn’t really blame the guy if he didn’t turn them over voluntarily.

        3. R C Dean

          Don’t know if he was supportive or sarcastic. He hasn’t done anything to push this along.

          Me, I’d publicly order the DOJ to treat any red flag enforcement as a conspiracy to deny civil rights.

  28. PieInTheSky

    When and where did the European lactase persistence allele become common

    https://twitter.com/mathiesoniain/status/1183112399722864640

    mmmmmm cheese

    1. I need to replenish my cheese supplies, I’m running low.

  29. PieInTheSky

    Well I was here at 6 45 it is now 16:06 I am outta here. Enough of this shit

    1. You only lasted a little past nine minutes?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      That’s like 10 hours!*

      *No Literal Splainin’ please.

    3. PieInTheSky

      I forgot my goddamn sunglasses home. This is what happenes when i leave before sunrise

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You don’t keep a spare coffin in the car?

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          He also forgot the garlic repellant.

  30. Rebel Scum

    Donald J. Trump ✔
    @realDonaldTrump

    Nancy Pelosi needs help fast! There is either something wrong with her “upstairs,” or she just plain doesn’t like our great Country. She had a total meltdown in the White House today. It was very sad to watch. Pray for her, she is a very sick person!”

    1. straffinrun

      I don’t care if I’m not supposed to laugh at that. That’s funny. Giving the office of the POTUS all the reverence it has accrued over the years. Keep going, Trump.

    2. PieInTheSky

      Lol. Troll.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Yeah, he wants to be impeached.

    4. leon

      Hey, we’re all thinking it, he just said it.

    5. Bob Boberson

      The MSM and the Dem’s still don’t get it; Trump’s supporters like that he punches back. Who recalls the last Elephant who as willing to do this?

      1. straffinrun

        Not many given how many assholes Rs vote to condemn Trump for pulling (partly) out of Syria.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        How could you not love it?

        Beneath the office? Sure. But it’s not like previous Presidents didn’t act like shitheads albeit in different ways that were ‘beneath the office’.

      3. The Last American Hero

        It was TR (so only a sort of elephant).

        Reagan fought back with humor.

        The Bushes and everybody after 88 were cucks.

        1. mexican sharpshooter

          Teddy literally punched back if I am not mistaken.

        2. Reagan fought back with humor.

          +1 “The bombing will start in 5 minutes.”

    6. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Trump then remarked, according to the senior source: “President Obama drew a red line in the sand [in Syria]. In my opinion, you are a third-grade politician.” (Schumer, D-N.Y., told reporters he heard Trump use the term “third-rate politician.”)

      Pelosi forcefully reminded Trump that the House had recently overwhelmingly voted to condemn his Syria policy, the source said.

      So take a vote and declare war, you irrelevant assholes.

      1. leon

        “Blood for the Blood God”

        1. “SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!”

          *Tries to rev gore-clogged chainaxe*

      2. invisible finger

        Congress is only for symbolic gestures. Meaningful action can only take place by executive fiat. This is what the lightbringer taught me.

    7. Ahhhh, okay! Fine! I’ll vote for the guy this time around.

  31. PieInTheSky

    Bradley fuckin Beal god 4 years 130 mil. Tha chiana dime better keep rolling for the nba

  32. The Late P Brooks

    It was an honest mistake

    So is the new standard that whenever a cop — even just mistakenly — shoots a citizen while doing his job, it’s murder?

    If so, then let’s be very clear what the natural consequence will be: cops will be less likely to do their jobs.

    Really, would you want to be a cop?

    You get a call at 2:30 in the morning. Adrenaline running. You hear something. You overreact. You shoot. You kill an innocent.

    That is what happened last weekend when Aaron Dean, a young, white, Fort Worth, Texas officer, killed Atatiana Jefferson, a young black woman. Dean was called to her home to investigate an open door early in the morning. He shot and killed Jefferson when she appeared on the other side of the window with a gun in her hand.

    To be sure, Dean violated police policy by failing to identify he was a police officer when he suddenly saw someone — Jefferson — standing on the other side of the window. It is unclear whether in that split second he saw she had a gun. Either way, his violation was deadly.

    ——-

    The logical consequence of all this will be police won’t get out of their cars, what some call the “Ferguson effect.” Like you, almost all of them just want to do their jobs and go back to their families.

    But if in doing their dangerous job they risk going to jail for murder when screwing up, good luck recruiting cops. Don’t complain when they stay in their cars. There’s way too much downside to do otherwise.

    And as a result, we will all be less safe.

    Why should we punish a cop for killing somebody? That doesn’t make any sense. Accidents happen.

    Just think of the anarchic horror of a world in which a cop might be obliged to think through the consequences of what he does. What a nightmarish proposition.

    1. The same use of force standards should apply to any civillian, badged or not.

      1. ^This. The difference ought to be that a police officer has legal authority to make an arrest, subject to subsequent legal challenge. A police officer should be a civilian who’s getting paid by other civilians to walk around and keep an eye on their shit while they’re at work.

      2. Drake

        This. Cops ARE civilians.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      To be sure, Dean violated police policy by failing to identify he was a police officer

      You can stop right there. Everything else is irrelevant.

      1. leon

        Yup. That’s a sub minimum standard. He didn’t identify and quite frankly deserved to be blown away.

    3. leon

      So is the new standard that whenever a cop — even just mistakenly — shoots a citizen while doing his job, it’s murder?

      No that’s not the “new” standard. the standard is that when you shoot someone innocent — even just mistakenly — It’s murder.

      If so, then let’s be very clear what the natural consequence will be: cops will be less likely to do their jobs.

      Since cops think going around murdering people because their so yella their mommas would be ashamed is their job, then i’m fine with that.

      And as a result, we will all be less safe.

      Apart from black people sitting in their own homes. They might be safer.

      Like you, almost all of them just want to do their jobs and go back to their families.

      Then don’t go around murdering people. I don’t get the “I just want to go home to my family, therefore i should be able to murder people indiscriminately”

      Really, would you want to be a cop?

      No, because i have actual life prospects.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Good lord, now that’s a bad take.

    5. Bob Boberson

      “The logical consequence of all this will be police won’t get out of their cars, what some call the “Ferguson effect.” Like you, almost all of them just want to do their jobs and go back to their families.”

      Since cops and their supporters love the military so much lets try this out:

      The logical consequence of all this will be police soldiers won’t get out of their cars humvees and go on patriol,……..” Like you, almost all of them just want to do their jobs and go back to their families.

      Any such soldier would be labelled a coward, court-marshaled and ushered out of the military. Yet our hero’s in blue are perfectly justified in dereliction of their duty. Curious, that.

      1. leon

        I would also note that Soldiers are supposed to follow strict ROE, or be detained and prosecuted for their crimes.

        1. Bob Boberson

          ‘Supposed’ being a key word…..every once in a while they need to make and example of someone and railroad some dude who wasn’t going to let himself get shot before he started shooting…..

          And then other times the military will quietly hide and protect an outright war criminal.

    6. If so, then let’s be very clear what the natural consequence will be: cops will be less likely to do their jobs.

      If police can’t get away with murder they’ll be less likely to do their jobs? Sounds like an HR problem. Maybe don’t hire murderers.

    7. invisible finger

      “But if in doing their dangerous job they risk going to jail for murder when screwing up, good luck recruiting cops.”

      I’ll take this option. Thanks!

    8. Suthenboy

      I wonder what song he would be singing if she had mistakenly shot him instead. I wonder….

      1. leon

        “This is why we need Gun Control”

    9. Rebel Scum

      Adrenaline running. You hear something. You overreact. You shoot. You kill an innocent.

      Didn’t announce yourself. Didn’t knock. Fired through a window at a (probably) startled resident. At the very least it is manslaughter.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You overreact

        Sure seems like an admission of incompetence.

    10. I am very impressed that throughout all this guy’s “honest mistake,” he could aim well enough to take her out with one shot. That’s pretty fine shootin’, there, Tex.

  33. The Late P Brooks

    We will hound the wicked unto the very gates of Hell

    New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed a measure Wednesday that would allow the state to pursue charges against people who have received a presidential pardon — a law seen as a direct shot at President Donald Trump.

    Multiple ex-Trump aides or associates are imprisoned or facing legal scrutiny in New York.

    The president, whose business and campaign are both headquartered in New York, also is facing numerous federal, state and congressional investigations related to his administration, campaign and business dealings.

    The newly signed law creates a narrow exception in the state’s double jeopardy law, which prohibits the prosecution of a person who’s been tried for the same crime by the federal government. The change takes effect immediately.

    “No one is above the law and New York will not turn a blind eye to criminality, no matter who seeks to protect them,” Cuomo said in a statement. “The closure of this egregious loophole gives prosecutors the ability to stand up against any abuse of power, and helps ensure that no politically motivated, self-serving action is sanctioned under law.”

    No one will escape our vengeance.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Let me guess, their first target is Marc Rich.

    2. They will have one very expensive case dragged all the way to SCOTUS, and the law will be struck down.

      1. leon

        SCOTUS says double jeopardy is legit, as long as it’s different governments. Also I don’t see how the President should dictate state law enforcement.

        1. Perfect opportunity to fix that mistake.

          1. leon

            Not sure they will seeing as they made that mistake last year.

          2. It takes a while for the appeals process. By the time it gets there, Ginsberg will have checked out.

        2. Rebel Scum

          Double jeopardy does not distinguish the State and Federal government in 5A. This will (or should…*) be struck down.

          *We all know how 2A is treated despite the same lack of distinction.

      1. I’m surprised some woke “comic writer” hasn’t pulled an “I am not man” with some woman character.

        Perhaps they don’t know enough lore to remember the Manhunters exist.

    3. Bobarian LMD

      I think there’s a typo…

      “helps ensure that no politically motivated, self-serving action is sanctioned under law.”

      FIFY

  34. straffinrun

    354-60 vote to condemn Trump for Syria. This is exactly why you have forever wars and why I won’t vote R unless it’s someone special like Rand or Massie.

    1. DOOMco

      Fucking declare a war, fuckfaces.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        That’d mean they bear some of the responsibility for the consequences so it’ll never ever happen.

      2. Drake

        Trump should request a declaration of war, including a draft of college students, to prosecute this war they seem to want

        1. DOOMco

          I hope one of those 60 no votes submit exactly that.

      3. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        A war in Syria is slightly less popular than Congress, itself, and they all know it

        1. straffinrun

          Give them time. “If we hadn’t gone in full force, oh, you just wouldn’t believe what would’ve happened. You’re just lucky we didn’t listen to you at the time. We’re talking mushroom clouds and sharia law in Topeka. Probably at the same time.”

          1. Fun fact – throwing water on a wax fire is an excellent way to create a mushroom cloud.

            Luckily neither I nor the ceiling were ignited in the incident.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Disgusting ain’t it?

      1. straffinrun

        It’s disgusting that I found more in common with a sleazy real estate mogul than I do with supposed defenders of liberty.

        1. Shirley Knott

          ^^This

        2. Sensei

          プラス 1。

    3. Bob Boberson

      Once again bi-partisanship proves to only be possible when they are blatantly rubbing shit on the face of lady liberty.

      1. leon

        Stupid + Evil = Bipartisan

    4. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Amash’s only principle is “orange man bad” apparently

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        Funny how he wasn’t so vocal in his criticism until the tariffs (which I mostly disagree with) started messing with his tool business.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Nah. Nothing conspiratorial about defaulting to fashion.

      2. leon

        He fucking voted Present. What a bitch.

        Voting records for those interested: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h560

        My entire delegation voted yea, so Now i know i won’t be voting for my rep. Also thinking about how to unseat him.

        1. Pull out the chair as he’s starting ti sit down?

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Virginia always votes for more war. Always. It’s good for business.

        3. straffinrun

          I’m beginning to like Jim Jordan more and more.

        4. DOOMco

          I wonder if he explained that vote.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            jon walz ?

            @walztv

            A house vote is a yes or a no. If that’s not good enough he should resign and go write policy papers for the koch network

          2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            It’s telling who Amash is actually impressing at this point that most of the comments are pissed that he didn’t vote “yes”.

            The Kochs ruin everything they touch

          3. Drake

            What a douche.

          4. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I’ll give you a hint: it begins with “muh” and ends with “Kurds”. It’s an embarrassing rationale.

          5. DOOMco

            I got into it with my mom over the weekend. For someone who said they want to bring the troops home, she sure doesn’t want to bring *those* troops home. It was rather fun getting her to say that. And then the mumbling over a declaration of war. At one point I asked if she could point to any troops to bring home.

          6. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            I get into it with my dad who loves him some Trump even when he does bullshit like bombing Syria or continuing the conflict in Yemen. So, because Trump brought troops out of Syria it’s good, but if Trump wants to continue the war in Yemen that’s also good.
            This is the same guy who vehemently opposed the Iraq War from the get go (back when it was extremely popular). I just don’t fucking understand how people can be so partisan.

          7. Suthenboy

            I am not partisan. I don’t care who is president. I do care what policies we have.

            I don’t give a fuck who does it. I would be happy if that shitweasel Obama had brought them home. He campaigned on it but just like everything else that came out of his mouth it was a lie.

            I am with Trump on this one. I would Bring them all home from all of those conflicts. The endless war has made a lot of swamp denizens rich on tax payer money but the country as a whole has gotten dick out of it and no one can ever tell me what we should expect to get, how to get it and when to get it.
            Let the Russians piss their money and lives away if they want. We need out now.

          8. Akira

            I’ll give you a hint: it begins with “muh” and ends with “Kurds”. It’s an embarrassing rationale.

            I kind of understand the concern that the US looks bad if they renege on their word, but here are my questions about the whole Kurd thing:

            – What was explicitly promised/guaranteed to them?

            – Who was making that promise/guarantee? Was it someone who had no control over that decision and said it without approval?

          9. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            “Muh…Kurds” is only the fourth rationale that has been given for our continued involvement in Syria. Surely, they are telling the truth this time.

            Oh, and the Kurds already made a deal with Assad and Russia to be in between the Turks and themselves. This is a deal that they wanted to make years ago, but the US pressured them not to. Because this has nothing to do with the Kurds and everything to do with regime change.

        5. Rhywun

          Yea 86%
          Nay 14%

          Stunning and brave.

    5. Brett L

      “The House has made their resolution, now let us see them enforce it”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      She seems nice.

    2. Certified Public Asshat

      just an FYI – dad bod isn't an insult. so think about why you're using "mom" to insult women.— “Celia” (@_celia_bedelia_) October 16, 2019

      Seems inconsistent.

      1. Chipwooder

        “Just an FYI – logic doesn’t apply in my world so things can mean whatever I happen to want them to mean!”

    3. leon

      “Celia”
      ‏ @_celia_bedelia_
      19h19 hours ago

      just an FYI – dad bod isn’t an insult. so think about why you’re using “mom” to insult women.

      Maybe you should take a page from the Dad playbook then and not give a fucking damn.

    4. Chipwooder

      I hate everyone in that link – both her and the people replying to her, who seem to be all leftists (note the one saying “MEN CAN BE MOMS TOO”)

      1. DOOMco

        The left: we eat our own!

      2. I’d wager she’s used a blocklist to filter out any diversity of opinion.

    5. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      Somebody lost their custody hearing

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        Husband’s Lawyer: Your honor, Ms. Celia is clearly an alcoholic and…

        Celia: *stands up* Aye, you…yeah, you…who you calling *hiccup*..who you calling *hiccup*…who you..

        Celia’s Lawyer: *grabs client* Jesus Christ, sit down.

        Judge: Um..is your client drunk right now at this hearing?

        Celia: *stands up* So I had a drink or two…maybe…is that a *hiccup* crime?

        Celia’s Lawyer: Your honor…umm…yes?

        Celia: This whole *hiccup*…this whole…*hiccup*…court is sebest *hiccup*. Yeah, I says it

        Judge: I think this hearing is over.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    “Whine mom?”

    WTF? Why would you link to that? Don’t you have something more culturally uplifting, like a gif of some filthy hobo shitting all over a bus stop?

    1. DOOMco

      https://youtu.be/VJCEzdFFIjk
      This should cheer you up

  36. The Late P Brooks

    Hate speech is not free speech

    Boston is the latest pension plan to pull its assets from Camas, Washington-based Fisher.

    The state of Michigan is withdrawing $600 million of its pension fund from the firm, as well as Philadelphia’s board of pensions, which yanked $54 million.

    Fidelity Investments said on Tuesday that it was reviewing a $500 million relationship with the firm.

    “We are very concerned about the highly inappropriate comments by Kenneth Fisher,” said Fidelity spokesman Vincent Loporchio. “The views he expressed do not align in any way with our company’s values.”

    ——-

    CNBC obtained an audio recording last week of Fisher’s comments at the Tiburon CEO Summit, as well as audio of him speaking at a previous conference.

    Clips from both were featured on CNBC Power Lunch last Friday. Combined, they show that the money manager made flippant remarks about sex.

    In the audio obtained by CNBC, Fisher says at the Tiburon conference: “Money, sex, those are the two most private things for most people,” so when trying to win new clients you need to be careful.

    He says: “It’s like going up to a girl in a bar … [inaudible] …going up to a woman in a bar and saying, hey, I want to talk about what’s in your pants.”

    Hangin’s too good for him.

    1. CPRM

      Saying sexual harassment is bad means you’re evil now?

      1. Suthenboy

        Yeah, that’s what I am thinking too. It sounds like he is saying that inappropriate behavior doesn’t win you clients.
        Also thinking the pension plan managers job is to see to it that the pension funds make money so pensions can be paid. PC aint got nothing to do with it and they even got that wrong.

        I wonder why so many public pension plans are broke.

    2. straffinrun

      We should be walking up to girls in bars and wanting to talk about what’s in our pants. It’s how I let them know my preferred pronouns.

    3. Juvenile Bluster

      Even trying to think like one of … them … I can’t figure out why this is problematic.

      1. Chipwooder

        Trying to think like one of them? That might be the problem – doesn’t seem like thinking plays much of a role for these people.

      2. straffinrun

        “He has money. We don’t.” Start there.

    4. leon

      In the audio obtained by CNBC, Fisher says at the Tiburon conference: “Money, sex, those are the two most private things for most people,” so when trying to win new clients you need to be careful.

      He says: “It’s like going up to a girl in a bar … [inaudible] …going up to a woman in a bar and saying, hey, I want to talk about what’s in your pants.”

      What is objectionable here? He’s clearly saying that when you are doing a sale you have to be smooth, not direct. Just like at the bar you wouldn’t go up to a woman and say, “Let’s have Sex”. I think i’m a bit of a prude, and i don’t think this is objectionable.

      1. straffinrun

        Something something, you said “Jehovah”.

    5. Rebel Scum

      I don’t see the controversy.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        You’re not woke, obviously.

        But yes, this is stupid.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        I think they’re sticking to the woke “offensive” stuff. I’d like to see the whole thing, but it sounded like before this became focused on the comments above, that he was a dipshit for his public comments (even if they were supposed to be “private”), that the fellow attendees had no problem with breaking their own word, that everyone dropping him now is doing so because of the backlash not the actual content, and the funds management/public pensions managers are scum.

        1. straffinrun

          That makes sense. Even in woke corporate American, those statements alone wouldn’t do it.

    6. R C Dean

      I thought he was giving advice on how to land a client, basically, don’t rush it, people think their money is private, and using sex as an analogy to make his point.

      For this, he is in personed. And by organizations I thought knew better.

      I actually have Fidelity accounts. If they pull out, I will close them.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    This should cheer you up

    Not clickin

    1. DOOMco

      It’s good, I promise

  38. Raston Bot

    Extinction Rebellion protesters caused delays on England’s tube this morning. here’s vid of commuters having enough of their shit, pulling them down, and kicking their asses:
    https://twitter.com/mahatir_pasha/status/1184713704673366016

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      Shouldn’t they be encouraging people to take public transportation? I mean, it’s idiotic, but on some level if I dumb myself down enough I can understand disrupting car travel from their point of view. But public train transport?

      1. I can’t seem to get into the headspace of people who think pissing other people off with advance their cause with the people they pissed off.

      2. Suthenboy

        Their purpose is to disrupt and agitate until society is dysfunctional.

    2. CPRM

      Rob Rocklad
      @london_rocklad
      Replying to
      @mahatir_pasha
      I do not agree with their tactics of blocking public transport, but those kicking and punching the protesters must also be arrested and charged. It is the Police’s job to do that.
      1:23 AM · Oct 17, 2019

      1. Any injuries?

        No?

        Misdemeandor battery or mutual combat – give them a fine and send them on their way.

      2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        Nah. It’s hilarious.

      3. Brett L

        It is the Police’s job to do that.

        Where is this guy from? LA county?

      4. Raston Bot

        if the cops and/or tube security did their jobs and gave the protesters a proper tune up, then the mob wouldn’t have to act. i see these leftist protesters asking Antefa for “security” next time.

      5. Bobarian LMD

        It is the Police’s job to do that.

        I assume he means the “kicking and punching protesters” part.

    3. Akira

      Impressive. Maybe the English have some shriveled remnant of balls after all.

  39. The Late P Brooks

    Another billionaire tech know-it-all who just wants to save us from ourselves

    Salesforce (CRM) CEO Marc Benioff hasn’t been sparing with his criticism of Facebook. But in an interview with CNN’s Poppy Harlow Wednesday he went one significant step further and added his name to the list of those who support breaking up the social media giant.

    “It’s addictive, it’s not good for you, they’re after your kids, they’re running political ads that aren’t true … and they’re also acquiring other companies and co-mingling [data those companies have on their users] into theirs,” Benioff said, referencing Facebook (FB)’s acquisitions of Instagram, WhatsApp and other tech platforms. “And I think at that point, because they’re now doing that, that they probably should be broken up. Because they’re having an undue influence as the largest social media platform on the planet,” he said.

    ——-

    Benioff is on a media tour for his new book “Trailblazer,” published Tuesday, which centers on what he says is the need for today’s CEOs to consider returns not just for shareholders, but for all stakeholders in their companies, including customers and employees.

    That’s nice. Maybe you and that nattering jackass from Dick’s Sporting Goods should run for the White House.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Salesforce sucks. That is all.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Dipshit will be expressing surprise when it’s his turn against the wall.

  40. PieInTheSky

    SO what is everyone drinking?

    https://www.vivino.com/pivnitele-birauas-pinot-noir/w/2394787?year=2012

    Decent for a Romanian Pinot Noir . Smells a bit more interesting than it tastes

    1. DOOMco

      Ok wine mom

      1. straffinrun

        *Cheers*

    2. PieInTheSky

      A couple of weeks ago i realized it had been since February since I had a day with 0 alcohol. In the last two weeks I had one a week, this week I had two. Next week I am aiming for 3.

      If I could make it a habit of 3 no alcohol days it would be good.

  41. PieInTheSky

    Biggest Revolver Yet? A 10-Gauge Colt 1855..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YziAAEG5sf8

    overcompensating much?

    1. For poor aim, probably.

    2. Raston Bot

      looks like a Colt Dragoon

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Dragoon_Revolver

      which i only know about from having read Blood Meridian

      1. PieInTheSky

        whenever a big gun is featured on the channel there are people in the comments talking about a big iron. I blame video games and kids these days.

  42. The Late P Brooks

    One of the reasons tech platforms are able to publish such content without consequences is the law typically shorthanded as Section 230, which allows internet platform providers to moderate some content without fear of being held liable for most of what users do on their platforms.

    Benioff called Section 230 “the most dangerous law on the books right now,” and said it should be “abolished.”

    “On these platforms, it’s well documented what’s happening,” he said. “And this cannot continue. It is deeply affecting our society.”

    Shorter Benioff: “People who say things I disagree with should be muzzled.”

    1. leon

      “The First Amendment needs to go too” he later remarked.

    2. R C Dean

      Isn’t he saying nobody should be muzzled?

  43. Michael Bluth

    I’m a collections attorney (two strikes right out of the gate!) and I’m starting to get fairly annoyed with articles like this:

    https://features.propublica.org/medical-debt/when-medical-debt-collectors-decide-who-gets-arrested-coffeyville-kansas/

    1- I get that some collections attorneys can be super aggressive, but if you don’t like it, change the law.
    2- I feel nothing but empathy for those who face a mountain of bills. That’s what bankruptcy is for But if its to the point that you’re being arraigned on a contempt charge for a failure to appear, you’re ignoring the problem and not trying to make it better. As a judge once taught me, it is contempt of the court, not contempt of the Plaintiff. He then issued a warrant despite my not wanting one.
    3- Bonus quote: “Since the Affordable Care Act of 2010, prices for medical services have ballooned…” Wait, I thought Obama fixed healthcare!?

    1. Am I allowed to declare bankruptsy when I have more assets than debts and no missed payments on anything?

      1. Michael Bluth

        Under the bankruptcy reforms in the early 2000s, you have to first go through the “means test” (https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/finance/bankruptcy-means-test/) which determines whether you can file a chapter 7 (no asset, liquidation) or chapter 13 (payment plan). Your state set exemption limits on your assets, such as your homestead, vehicles, etc. that determine what goes into the bankruptcy estate. If you have too many assets, those will go into the bankruptcy estate and are used by the trustee to pay off any creditors. So, I think yes, you could, but if you have many or any assets over the exemption limit, it will not go well.

        1. Huh, Thanks. I would have thought you’d be laughed out of court and sent away.

          1. R C Dean

            What happens is, the court sets a payment plan for full payment of debts, and now you have what amounts to a federal court order requiring you to pay your debts.

    2. Don Escaped Texas

      I don’t get the beef with attorneys. The complaining seems to come from people with no significant interests to protect and no professional capacity themselves.

      Two things that haven’t changed in the past half century:
      a/ you can’t keep your doctor, and you never could
      2/ health costs will go up; you can’t stop it, and you never could

      1. The lawyers are the face of the problem. In many cases, it’s not their fault the person is in the situation, but they’re the people associated with the stress.

        1. Michael Bluth

          I prefer the term semi-literate, thank you very much.

          I don’t think the profession has done itself many favors over the years. I think many people think its the fast lane to being rich and respected, but the reality is quite different. However as my friend from law school put it: “Law school only teaches you to a.) be a douche; and b.) make numbered lists.”

          1. Michael Bluth

            Dangit, that was supposed to be under Pie.

          2. PieInTheSky

            I am speaking solely of Romania though.

            I know a lawyer who failed the bar 6 time (first time he got 2.46 out of 10) until he manage to bribe and cheat his way in. Boy’s a moron. But connected by family…

          3. But connected by family…

            Oh that happens all the time here, even when you’re just marginally connected.

            My parents were friends with another couple for years. My dad also had a very good friend who was a judge.

            A son of this couple-friend wanted to go to law school, but he couldn’t even get into our 62nd-tier law school at UMKC. The couple-friend asked my dad to help if he had any contacts. Dad called upon his friend the judge (verrrrry reluctantly) and got him in.

            That somehow ruined the friendship with the judge, but I don’t quite remember how.

          4. “Law school only teaches you to a.) be a douche; and b.) make numbered lists.”

            Was making that a lettered list instead of numbered done deliberately?

          5. Michael Bluth

            It was actually one part of a much longer list. So those are subparts.

          6. R C Dean

            Yeah, I have numbered lists inside of sentences. ‘Tis true.

            Also, can confirm correlation of law school and assholes.

          7. I don’t think I’ve met a more concentrated group of assholes as compared to law school. There were nice people and smart people, but they were diamonds in the rough. It doesn’t appear much better in practice.

          8. make numbered lists

            Don’t have to be a lawyer to speak in bullet points. Just a mite OCD.

          9. bullet points

            Triggered!

          10. You reached to the bottom of the barrel for that pun.

          11. Fair, I should renew my stocks.

          12. You reached to the bottom of the barrel for that pun.

            There weren’t that many fish in it.

      2. PieInTheSky

        my beef is many are semi illiterate morons who make a lot of money off a corrupt system. I don’t know about the US though.

        1. leon

          Not sure about the semi illiterate morons, but we have our share of self dealing sociopaths. See: Michael Avenatti.

    3. Akira

      3- Bonus quote: “Since the Affordable Care Act of 2010, prices for medical services have ballooned…” Wait, I thought Obama fixed healthcare!?

      This really can’t be emphasized enough. The Democrats were so insistent that this thing was going to fix healthcare forever and “bring us up to par with every other nation”. They said they had all the right incentives in place for individuals, employers, insurers, and healthcare providers; we were told it was going to work just like a Swiss watch.

      But that’s the story of every law designed to “fix” American healthcare – it’s always the once-and-for-all solution that will make healthcare affordable for every single person. And it fails, of course, and a few years later we’ll be hearing about the next wonderful utopian solution that will make healthcare free and easy for everyone.

      1. make healthcare affordable for every single person

        I just found out we pay $900/month through my husband’s work for health insurance. Talk about sticker shock. Yet, we can’t do without it.

        I saw somewhere Walmart’s getting i to the healthcare game? I have advocated for that for at least 10 years. Walmart General Hospitals and Clinics.

      2. Rhywun

        “The Repubelicans ruined it.”

        1. Rebel Scum

          “Like that was ever allowed to work.” <- Actual quote from a leftist acquaintance when I mentioned the failure of the PPACA to live up to it's name.

          1. leon

            well it was designed to fail from the start. That way they could say “Look we tried the free market with the ACA and it doesn’t work” and then nationalize it.

            And Eliminate private insurances because fuck people who want to pay for beter healthcare. Healthcare is a human right, and the government will make sure you don’t get any more than you need.

        2. Chipwooder

          That, plus “But Republicans are the bad guys because they refuse to help fix it!”

      3. Suthenboy

        “But that’s the story of every law designed to “fix”…everything.”
        This came up last night with regards to a different market. Markets operate on the immutable laws of nature. Attempting to alter that to ‘fix’ them is a vain attempt that will no more work than turning lead to gold.

        Of course that is leaving aside my personal belief that Obumblecare was deliberately designed to fail.

      4. Drake

        Despite a great economy, people over 50 are getting laid off because their insurance is too expensive through employers. Be nice if we could just go back to people buying their own unregulated health insurance.

    4. I feel nothing but empathy for those who face a mountain of bills. That’s what bankruptcy is for

      This is what my brother has been hammering into me. Our mistake was in waiting too long to get out from under our money pit of a house. I loathe this piece of shit, but we were stuck with repairs we can no longer afford to make (e.g., now needs a new roof), and so it was in no condition to sell. We were stuck.

      No, our mistake was buying this piece of shit in the first place.

      1. Were there any warning signs you overlooked? Or did the house blindside you?

        1. We found some things beforehand and the seller fixed them. One was the electrical panel, which had to be completely redone. Otherwise, the “inspection” was a joke.

          One month after we moved in, the sliding glass back door just … fell out. It’s December. Freezing. Had to put thick plastic up until we could shell out for a $1500 door and installation.

          I can’t remember if I was about to be induced into labor or if I had just had the baby. My husband had just had an ACL reconstruction. Neither of us were in any condition to do anything.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    Isn’t he saying nobody should be muzzled?

    My interpretation of what he’s saying, from the full article, is “Some people are allowed to ‘hide behind’ Section 230 in order to spread their right wing lies. This must be stopped.”

    1. R C Dean

      Ah, didn’t read the article. Thanks.

  45. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    https://twitter.com/NormOrnstein/status/1183395729584377856

    Norman Ornstein

    @NormOrnstein

    Rand Paul is not just despicable. He is a Russian agent in the form of a senator.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      They’re not funding our best. That’s for sure.

    2. Drake

      Maybe Congress should outlaw Russia and we could nuke them?

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Ornstein is Hillary Clinton in drag.

    4. leon

      @FreedomFan

      Also Gabbard

      At least Michael Malice set up a poll to vote on who was worse Norm Ornstein or Rand Paul

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        The Kochs always, always, always fund the warhawks. The Intercept pointed this out about six years ago. Go through the representatives that receive the most funding from the Koch network. You’re not going to find Rand or Massie on that list.

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          Take a guess who funds Ornstein and his little cabal of managed market enthusiasts?

          1. leon

            Oh i know this one. Hitler?

    5. Rebel Scum

      Donald J. Trump
      ‏Verified account
      @realDonaldTrump
      21h21 hours ago
      More

      Senator Rand Paul just wrote a great book, “The Case Against Socialism” which is now out. Highly recommended – as America was founded on LIBERTY & INDEPENDENCE – not government coercion, domination & control. We were born free, and will stay free, as long as I am your President!

    6. leon

      The replies are mostly awful: see some here:

      The scope of Kompromat in our government is staggering

      Kentucky needs to be looked at with a microscope. How is it that both he and #MoscowMitch come out of there?

      The Kentucky/Russia connection is *strong*

      There seem to be many Russian agents in high places.

      I’m astounded by the idiocy of the people in this country who are convinced that everyone who disagrees with them is a compromised ruissan agent.

      1. Suthenboy

        I think some of those are sarcasm.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          You wish.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        Twitter, We Give Voices To Morons

    7. Suthenboy

      These days who isn’t?

      1. The worst part is trying to find a store that takes Roubles.

    8. leon

      What a pity that neighbor didn’t do a better job.

      WTF is wrong with people.

    9. leon

      One last reply that gaveme a chuckle:

      Said Orenstein with the name that sounds like Epstein

      I mean using Ornsteins logic, it’s hard to argue against that.

  46. MikeS

    Trump Blamed For Causing Violence In Typically Peaceful Middle East

    “Trump has betrayed our allies, the Kurds,” said one man in Arizona who had just googled “who are the Kurds” a few minutes before. “Look at all this violence he’s causing in the usually utopian paradise of Syria.”

    The nation has called on Trump to allow U.S. soldiers to stick around for another few centuries in order to bring our various conflicts to a satisfactory conclusion.

    At publishing time, the Pentagon had issued a reminder to the nation that “we’ve always been at war with Turkey.”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Perfect

    2. Rebel Scum

      “It’s sad that the usually serene resort destination of Syria has been transformed into a war-torn hellscape under Trump,” said Hillary Clinton. “Under my watch, the Middle East was basically a big golf resort.”

      Heh.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      *Your

      1. Can’t tell if serious …

        1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

          *Kant

        2. Oh, damn. Totes missed it.

          *stretches* *yawns*

          Good morning, Glibbies.

          1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

            My apologies

    2. straffinrun

      Thanks to DBL Eagle, I had this stupid earworm stuck in my head all last week. So I checked to see if there was a Japanese version of it and… Well, let’s just say they completely changed the lyrics into a love song about their first love.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmpOLryIi4M

      1. LOL

        I actually like that song. /true confessions

        1. straffinrun

          I was completely wrong about that song. It’s great. Lyrics like:

          I’ve spent my life exploring
          the subtle whoring
          that costs too much to be free.

          and

          I’ve moved like Harlow in Monte Carlo
          and showed ’em what I’ve got
          I’ve been undressed by kings
          and I’ve seen some things
          that a woman ain’t supposed to see

          I really should’ve listened to the lyrics more closely because that is gold.

          1. I will tell you that that hit teenage me in the feelz. Hey, that life didn’t sound so bad. Did I REALLY want to get married and have kids?

            I’m not kidding. That song made me stop and think about what I wanted to do with my life (other than going to BYU, getting married, and having kids or, alternatively, getting a degree in accounting and getting a decent job) which was the first and only time I had ever done so.

            I regret to say I did not go find myself when I had no responsibilities.

          2. I never had no responsibilities, but when I had the least, I also had the fewest resources with which to attempt anything. I think I wrote a crappy book while job searching.

            No, that one is not for sale.

          3. straffinrun

            You never went whorin’ on the Isle of Greece? That is a big regret I don’t have.

          4. Sadly, no.

            /totes serious

          5. straffinrun

            You can live vicariously through me. It wasn’t all it was cracked up to be.

          6. Though he was popular with the furred pederasts.

          7. It wasn’t all it was cracked up to be

            TBF, nothing ever really is.

          8. straffinrun

            Whorin’ isn’t easy. If the furred pederasts got money, I’ll show them what a woman ain’t supposed to see.

          9. Also, “The Dreams of the Everyday Housewife” by Glen Campbell.

  47. Raston Bot

    animal welfare will be the death of animals.

    https://www.iol.co.za/saturday-star/sas-largest-private-rhino-breeder-john-hume-says-seized-rhino-horns-are-his-property-22221195

    Hume’s attorney, Ulrich Roux, said the suspects were arrested “while in possession of 181 rhino horns, which were lawfully purchased from our client. Said arrest pertains to the alleged violation of the terms of the required permits to transport the horns. Our client, when supplying the said suspects (Mr Clive John Melville and Mr Petrus Stephanus Steyn) with the horns set out above, was in possession of the valid selling permit,” issued by the Department of Environmental Affairs.

    Roux said the suspects were acting in their capacity as “agents” for the Port Elizabeth buyer, who was in possession of a valid buying permit, possession permit and transport permit.

    “In terms of the agreement between our client and (the buyer), our client would receive payment for the said horns upon (the buyer) successfully selling same.

    “Our client has accordingly not yet been paid for the said horns and the horns therefore remain his lawful and rightful property,” he said.

    Hume, who is sitting on a six-ton stockpile from his 1600 dehorned rhinos, said it costs $5 million a year to safeguard and maintain the animals. He now claims bankruptcy.

    1. R C Dean

      Yeah, if you want an animal to go extinct, make sure nobody benefits from keeping them around.

      1. Raston Bot

        John Hume’s quote from trophy hunting documentary Trophy:

        “Give me one animal that’s gone extinct when farmers were breeding it and making money out of it. There’s not one.”

    2. Suthenboy

      Someone’s beak didnt get wet.

  48. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/viral-liberal-hoax-claims-chick-fil-a-backed-a-law-to-execute-gay-people

    “Viral liberal hoax claims Chick-fil-A backed a law to execute gay people”

    FTA:

    “Snopes is the latest fact-checker to do its readers a massive disservice. This time, their dereliction of duty concerns the smearing of Chick-fil-A. The story here is an audacious liberal hoax that accused the delicious fast food chain of supporting anti-gay death penalty laws in Uganda.”

    AND

    “These false posts literally claimed that Chick-fil-A had financially supported these laws, and, unfortunately, thousands if not millions of people were taken in by this hoax, spreading the fake news widely across social media. And what did our trustworthy fact-checkers at Snopes do? They rated the bogus claim’s truthfulness “mixed.”

    Here’s how hard they stretched the truth.

    Chick-fil-A’s only connection to any of this is that its owners — not the company — through their separate foundation donate to the National Christian Foundation, the 8th-largest nonprofit in the U.S. That foundation works with Christian charitable groups. And there’s a weak connection between a tiny percentage of the groups NCF works with and anti-LGBT ministers in Uganda. Yet connecting those groups to ministers does not connect them to this legislation. Even Snopes admits “it’s not clear to what extent National Christian Foundation-funded entities were involved in the creation or promotion of a bill to make homosexuality punishable by death.”

    So the truthfulness of the progressive claims that Chick-fil-A “funded” these laws is not “mixed.” It’s completely nonexistent.”

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Howcome you hate facts?

    2. leon

      Snopes says “fact checking Fact Checkers is for Nazis.” All fact checks are final.

    3. Raston Bot

      the woke set doesn’t eat there anyway.

      and Babylon Bee will be along shortly to excoriate Snopes over this.

  49. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    Thomas Massie

    Congress never voted to send troops to Syria, but in five minutes we will be voting on a resolution that disapproves of Trump removing them. We should have never gone to Syria. We should leave Syria. I’m voting no on this resolution.

    1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      This guy is principled so he’s clearly not getting Koch cash

      1. leon

        He’s also from Kentucky, so clearly a putin stooge, getting all those putin moneys. I Bet he went to Russia on July 4th. Everyone knows a commie Putin Stooge can’t stand to be in the US on the 4th of July, Proof that he is a russian agent.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Bernie’s a Russian agent?

          1. R C Dean

            If anybody is, it’s him.

    2. straffinrun

      Trump told them to play with sand. How can you be so heartless, Thomas?

  50. The Late P Brooks

    Cheap money is bad because it hurts bank profits

    Zero or negative interest rates will do “tremendous damage” to the economy in the long run, analysts warn, adding that the addiction to cheap money has become a problem as central banks around the world go on a path of increasingly lower rates.

    The trend of zero interest rates is “perverse” and can “poison” the business environment, said Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, a visiting scholar at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy.

    Low interest rates hurt lenders’ profits as they narrow the margin that banks can earn. In a negative interest rate environment, lowering rates deeper into negative territory essentially means that lenders are paying more to the central bank to keep their excess funds overnight.

    MSNBC business channel- they’re really on the ball, over there.

    1. How about the fact that it impacts consumer saving rates, albeit indirectly? One would think that the reason artificially low interest rates suck is because it incentivizes people to live on margin.

    2. R C Dean

      The fact that interest rates are manipulated by the Fed is oddly minimized, prolly so they can blame Trump (which they do).

  51. wdalasio

    “And I think at that point, because they’re now doing that, that they probably should be broken up. Because they’re having an undue influence as the largest social media platform on the planet,” he said.

    As a point of reference, Facebook has 22.1% of its market (digital advertising). That’s less than Google’s 37.2%. In contrast, Salesforce has a 19.5% market share, double it’s largest competitor (SAP) and three times the next biggest (Oracle). Benioff might want to be a teensy bit more reticent when he’s talking about the glories of anti-trust action in the tech sector.

  52. The Late P Brooks

    Benioff might want to be a teensy bit more reticent when he’s talking about the glories of anti-trust action in the tech sector.

    That’s totally different. Benioff provides a valuable, much needed service. Facebook is just like turning teenage girls into crack whores.

    1. Rhywun

      He’s an angel for advocating the spending of millions of other people’s dollars on attracting more homeless to San Francisco.