Monday Morning Links

Looks like they’re for real.

Looks like that boat-rowing thing is for real after all.  And so is Lovie! The Buckeyes did what they do to everybody this year (without the best defensive player in the NCAA being sidelined because the powers that be are fucked in the head), and Bama was finally exposed after playing a team with a pulse. I’m interested to see how the CFP shuffles the deck after some untested teams were finally tested and after Bama lost to the only ranked team they’ve faced all year to this point.

In the NFL, there were a couple big upsets, including the Chefs going down.  The Dolphins actually won a game, meaning the Bungles are officially the worst team around (edit: after the Ravens beat them like so many others have done this year). The Browns won, which will pull a few people off suicide watch. And the Steelers keep grinding and actually sit in a wild card spot. Which is just amazing to me.

Pep telling the fourth official how many goals he lost by

Oh yeah, and Liverpool thrashed Man City to put a stranglehold on the PL. Arsenal are circling the drain and Chelski and Leicester keep impressing.  Last international break of the year coming up now. Let’s see what new low the USMNT can reach during it.

“Hey Kurt, you read lips? Fuck you!”

Fyodor Dosteyevsky was born on this day.  He shares it with General George Patton, medical pioneer Joseph Hamilton, writer (and actor) Kurt Vonnegut, scumbag politician Barbara Boxer, corrupt politician Corinne Brown, golfer and bad joke-maker Fuzzy Zoeller, actress Demi Moore, underrated actor Stanley Tucci, and actor and exclusive dater of women under 25 Leonardo DiCaprio.

OK, now let’s see what the world has going on with…the links!

Giant asshole Peter King (R-NY)

Warmonger, IRA apologist, and fan of the government controlling our lives will not seek reelection. Gee, what a shame.  Hopefully he spends his golden years doing something more productive with his time. Like emptying bedpans at a VA hospital he and his ilk have filled with way too many people.

Since so few people have voluntarily complied with New Zealand’s gun turn-in program, the government are set to just abandon due process and privacy rights. I’m curious to see if the Kiwis will stand for this or if they’ll buckle under like the Aussies did.

Jesus, hasn’t this family suffered enough already? My heart goes out to them. And I pray they’ll receive justice in the form of that cop going away for a very, very long time. Come on Texas jury. Keep your streak of holding cops accountable intact.

The GOP want Hunter Biden and others to testify in the impeachment “inquiry” hearings. Schiff has already said he won’t allow a few key figures to testify in the public hearings because it would be “redundant”.  Let’s see what he says about the former VP’s cokehead son at the center of the controversy.

Sacre bleu!

I kept trying to come up with a clever way to link this. But you’ll have to give me a hand coming up with one. I am honestly stumped but the story was so freaking weird I had to link it knowing that y’all will create a gaze-worthy stream of puns in the comments.

As the Supreme Court weighs DACA, the plaintiff in the case gives his thoughts. You know, there’s a simpler solution to the whole mess: Congress can stop abdicating their responsibilities on the issue to the executive branch (and changing EOs with changing administrations), and do their job writing actual legislation.

I don’t have a musical theme for the week just yet. I hope to come up with one. But the week starts with this gem. Hope you enjoy.

That’s it, friends.  Thank a veteran for all they’ve done if you get a chance. And have a great day.

Comments

434 responses to “Monday Morning Links”

  1. leon

    Warmonger, IRA apologist, and fan of the government controlling our lives will not seek reelection. Gee, what a shame. Hopefully he spends his golden years doing something more productive with his time. Like emptying bedpans at a VA hospital he and his ilk have filled with way too many people.

    What do Individaul Retirement Accounts need apologies for?

    1. For making rich people even richer.
      -Bernie Sanders

      1. Nobody needs 32 different dollars.

        1. Certified Public Asshat

          Don’t get him started on mutual funds either.

          1. “more like unmutual funds, amirite?!?”

            /Bernie

          2. leon

            Air Head Socialist: Socialism is when we pool our money to share in the ups and downs in life.

            Me: So like investing with a Mutual Fund?

            Socialist:ARGHHHHHHHHHHH!

      2. Tonio

        “How did they know he was dangerous?”

        “Well, he hadn’t turned in his gun, you see.”

        1. Tonio

          Shit. Gilmore’d.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Don’t really care about IRA apologists. The hipsters who keep trying to tell me that the only good beer is shit that is hoppy and bitter are the ones I hate. Fuck those IPA apologists.

    3. JaimeRoberto Delecto

      I read it as IPA apologist, which would be pretty unforgivable.

  2. leon

    Since so few people have voluntarily complied with New Zealand’s gun turn-in program, the government are set to just abandon due process and privacy rights. I’m curious to see if the Kiwis will stand for this or if they’ll buckle under like the Aussies did.

    But the article says it’s only to take guns from “Dangerous People”. Why do you want dangerous People to have guns?

    1. PieInTheSky

      Because it keeps the overpopulation in check

    2. But we don’t want the state to have guns.

    3. JaimeRoberto Delecto

      If they didn’t voluntarily give up their guns they are obviously dangerous.

  3. leon

    Schiff has already said he won’t allow a few key figures to testify in the public hearings because it would be “redundant”.

    I’ve tried (not very well, but i’ve tried) to be open minded about this, but the refusal to have the instigating witness testify makes it seem like he’s trying to hide that he helped manufacture it.

    ( i said wasn’t very good at being open minded. Get off my back about it Hyperbole 😉 )

    1. The Senate will call Schiff to testify in a public session. Hopefully before the House votes.

      That will be some good tv.

      1. leon

        I believe the Senate is controled by the Republican Party, which has a single pair of balls between all of them, so…. Not gonna happen.

        1. TARDIS

          And in just whose purse are they kept?

          1. Sean

            Lindsey Graham’s purse.

          2. Trigger Hippie

            ^

            Handle-worthy name for you lurkers out there.

        2. Rebel Scum

          Don’t forget about Cocaine Mitch. He’s demonstrated having a pair as of late.

      2. Tonio

        Some of the best Watergate info came out of Senate hearings, as opposed to the official House impeachment inquiry.

    2. Suthenboy

      Open minded doesn’t mean letting your brain fall out. Most of the time things really are just what they look like. At this point the anti-Trump crowd has zero credibility. If they said the sky is blue I would assume they are lying.

      1. juris imprudent

        The standard anti-Trumper has a very open mind. Whatever shit a pigeon drops on it becomes their most immediate thought.

      2. Mainer

        If a never-Trumper told me my mother loves me, I’d still need some independent validation.

  4. leon

    Congress can stop abdicating their responsibilities on the issue to the executive branch (and changing EOs with changing administrations), and do their job writing actual legislation.

    Legislation is a liability for congresholes

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Yeah, actually creating legislation and having to vote on it is a potential career killer if you are a pol. Why not let the bureaucrats do the dirty work?

  5. leon

    I’ll let Pie post now 😛

    1. PieInTheSky

      Neah I have nothing much

      1. Atanarjuat

        Yeah. Me either. You guys pretty much have it covered.

  6. PieInTheSky

    I kept trying to come up with a clever way to link this. But you’ll have to give me a hand coming up with one. I am honestly stumped but the story was so freaking weird I had to link it knowing that y’all will create a gaze-worthy stream of puns in the comments. – One should never underestimate the effects of the Russian winter. No, I do not pun.

    1. R C Dean

      Link what?

      1. leon

        My guess is that Pie’s eschement of HTML formatting extends to the use of the a tag

        1. leon

          eschewment*

          1. blackjack

            I was gonna misspell that word too, but I chose not to.

        2. PieInTheSky

          I always comment like this. You should be used to it

    2. Rumor is he kept the murder plot close to his vest.

  7. The Late P Brooks

    FPOs have been wanted by the Police Association for some time and have been debated in Parliament since 2014.

    I never saw that coming.

    1. “Let us do whatever we want without consequence.”
      -police officers everywhere

    2. leon

      FPO

      Fraternal Protective Orders? Do they keep the FOP from making aplogia for your murderer in the event you are killed by a cop?

      1. Tonio

        I’m guessing Firearm…

        1. Jarflax

          Freedom Proscription Order

  8. leon

    Russia’s greatest Napoleonic re-enactor found drunk in a river with the severed arms of his lover in his backpack

    So many questions. What was the guy doing in the river? What was he drinking? How did this guy get Josefinas Arm?

    1. Looks like he was trying to kill himself and he needed a hand (or two) from his girlfriend.

      1. leon

        You’re saying he had it as an accessory to his murder?

        1. Gender Traitor

          He was armed and dangerous?

          1. Gender Traitor

            She found him disarming?

        2. Slammer

          When convicted they’ll exile him to the Isle of Elbow

          1. leon

            This thread is going to St Helena hand-basket.

          2. Now that’s humerus.

          3. Slammer

            My second pun is very bi-corny

          4. TARDIS

            Where’s the wrist of the puns?

          5. “Swiftly Lower Tillie’s Pants, Tomorrow Tom Comes Home”

            Classic med student pnemonic device to remember the 8 bones of the wrist.

          6. Not Adahn

            NTTAWWT

        1. Sean

          Get a grip, Swiss.

          1. Jarflax

            The Swiss were required to send soldiers to fight for Napoleon in order to preserve their Nation and neutrality. The Swiss keep their promises.

    2. blackjack

      There is lot’s of questions. If he’s the greatest Napoleon re-enactor, just how many do they have over there? Exactly how tall was he? Tall enough to stand in the body of water he was found in? Is the article saying that he failed in his plan because of the cold weather?

      1. I thought Verne Troyer was the best Napoleon re-enactor.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        How is this asshole the greatest Napoleonic re-enactor if those arms were in his back pack? I would think that even the commonest of Napoleon re-enactors would know to tuck those arms/hands into their waistcoat.

    3. He made short work of her?

    4. Grumbletarian

      He was bidding a farewell to arms and got carried away.

  9. robc

    I think Leicester is gonna win the title again, proving the previous one wasnt a fluke.

    1. leon

      Good fans know that it’s never a fluke when your team wins.

      The best fans know that it is.

    2. 8 points is doable, but that lead may grow as Liverpool have an easier schedule through the remaining first half of matches.

    3. Certified Public Asshat

      Leicester has the luxury of not having international comps, but I don’t see it happening, unless Liverpool finally get bit by the injury bug.

      I like watching Leicester, it reminds me of what Spurs could have been. *sigh*

  10. Old Man With Candy

    So all that commentary about Little League and Trash-Sports, and not ONE FUCKING WORD about one of the greatest quarterback performances ever yesterday. The touchdown run was an all-time highlight film staple-to-be.

    You’re dead to me, Sloopy. DEAD TO ME.

    1. Oh yeah. Sorry. I’ll update it.

        1. Old Man With Candy

          No. THIS WAS AN MVP PERFORMANCE. Perfect passer rating, second time this year, and a highlight film run.

          Really, you could have done better.

          1. Certified Public Asshat

            Best part was Lamar wearing shades on the sideline when he was pulled from the game. What a stud.

          2. Old Man With Candy

            I admit prejudice, being a Ravens fan, but I can’t think of a more fun-to-watch player in my lifetime. And I always thought I’d never see anyone more exciting than Joe Montana or Steve Young.

            Most interesting QB ever was Frank Ryan, but that had more to do with his off-the-field exploits.

          3. Jarflax

            Oh get real you crazy old man! You were playing the Bengals! This was just about the same level of “MVP performance” as Rachel Mckinnon’s

          4. 17 passes 223 yds not MVP numbers, I know QB’s ‘lead the team’ and do more than just throwing the ball but still you need better numbers than that.

          5. Certified Public Asshat

            Jackson is now 13-3 as a starter, he’s beaten a lot of teams that are not Cinci and Miami.

          6. Old Man With Candy

            Like New England and Seattle. Convincingly.

    2. leon

      Ravens are just the second best team from Baltimore

      *Runs, Hides Kids, Hides wives*

    1. Atanarjuat

      I have to wonder if she’s even turning a profit after paying the Daily Fail for her thrice-weekly coverage, or if she’s turning a large inherited fortune into a small one.

    2. Atanarjuat

      By the way, this lumpy RealDoll just shows how much hotter women were before ubiquitous plastic surgery.

  11. DOOMco

    “FPOs are legal in three Australian states, where hundreds are issued every year. However, New Zealand police believe only about 20 would be issued every year.”
    Sure jan

  12. Rebel Scum

    New Zealand’s descent to totalitarianism continues apace.

    1. leon

      Yup. New Zealand knows as long as they keep their hands off of the sheep, they won’t have any issues.

    2. Don’t worry, the United States is hot on their heels.

  13. The Late P Brooks

    Circular reasoning is circular

    Republican strategist and political analyst Susan Del Percio told MSNBC on Sunday afternoon that the first three witnesses to testify in open impeachment hearings next week are too credible for GOP members to attack.

    House Intelligence Chairman Adam Schiff on Wednesday announced that House Democrats will take their formal impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump public this coming week with three witnesses set to testify: State Department official George Kent and U.S. Ukraine diplomat Bill Taylor are both testifying next Wednesday, while ex-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch will appear on Friday.

    In discussing the upcoming hearings with MSNBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin this weekend, Del Percio predicted that Republicans will have a hard time attempting to discredit the witnesses because they’re all very “accomplished” and credible.

    “We’ve seen some of what the Republicans have up their sleeves. They are going to try and discredit the witnesses. But as Sam Stein said, they are unimpeachable witnesses,” Del Percio said. “These are all government servants, people who have dedicated their lives not just to their post, but in Taylor’s case, he served in Vietnam. These are very accomplished people.”

    These people are well established members of the deep state apparat. That makes them unimpeachable witnesses against anybody trying to discredit the deep state.

    Also, will MSNBC give me air time as a “Democratic strategist” who wants to tell them why the Democrats are all crazy?

    1. leon

      Republican strategist and political analyst Susan Del Percio told MSNBC

      So from reading the article, she doesn’t seem to be a “Republican Strategist” but a “Analyst of Republican Strategy”.

    2. DOOMco

      Why would they lie?!

      1. leon

        Reminds me of “She has no reason to lie, so she must not be lying about Kavenaugh”

    3. Suthenboy

      I wonder what will happen if these fucknuts actually succeed. I don’t think it will be the outcome they want.

      1. leon

        I imagine it would be: Trump is removed, he sues in the Supreme Court for failure of Due Process or some other stuff.

        1. R C Dean

          Roberts presides over the removal trial, which is “political” anyway, so not that.

          1. leon

            I forgot that Roberts would preside.

            Still i think he might sue over something.

    4. Rhywun

      “These are all government servants, people who have dedicated their lives not just to their post, but in Taylor’s case, he served in Vietnam. These are very accomplished people.”

      *recovers from laughing*

      Well, Trump should just turn himself in to the nearest police station now. It’s over.

      1. leon

        You know who else served in vietnam…

        1. Richard Blumenthal?

    5. Not Adahn

      Isn’t there already documentation that Voyanovich perjured herself?

    6. Slammer

      These are very accomplished people.

      Trump’s not accomplished?

      1. Not Adahn

        Trump hasn’t accomplished anything. It’s all Putin’s doing!

    7. Rebel Scum

      they’re all very “accomplished” and credible

      Except for the one that is now known to have perjured herself.

  14. DOOMco

    So the Hong Kong police shot a dude.
    Protesters set a guy on fire.
    Mass arrests in political sphere.

    I’m sure it’ll be ok.

    1. That’s about to become much, much worse.

  15. Atanarjuat

    My ex’s cousin shared this, is he a mole?

    1. leon

      Is Rhywun your ex’s cousin?

      1. Atanarjuat

        I’m beginning to wonder. They’re both from Rochester.

  16. Tundra

    Good morning, Sloopy and a happy Veterans Day to all of you who served.

    Even Jimbo.

    The Gophers, Wild and Vikings all won this weekend. I’m not sure what to make of it.

    I hope each and every one of you has a fabulous day.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      *scuffs shoe in the dirt, smiles shyly*

      Morning to you too Tundra.

      *giggles and runs off*

    2. juris imprudent

      I’m not sure what to make of it.

      You should be able to ice skate from the far north straight through the gates of hell?

  17. Drake

    Sports talk douchebags are making excuses for Alabama right now. Maybe they can convince the pollsters with a big win over Western Carolina next week.
    * laughs maniacally. Screw Saban and his joke non-conference scheduling.

    1. DOOMco

      At least USC won.

      I mean, it was stressful watching it come down to a single play, but they won.

      Bowl dreams live on.

      1. Drake

        It was the kind of win that still gets coaches fired. If they think they can hire Urban Meyer, that are going to fire Helton.

        1. DOOMco

          He’s gonna go either way.
          You don’t get to keep calling every loss a learning opportunity there.
          They play down to their opponents, they don’t tackle during practice. Helton makes dumb calls. That Oregon game especially.

        2. Then they won’t fire Helton. Because Meyer isn’t going to USC.
          Not sure who Bohn has ties to (beyond Fickell), but that’s where their next coach will come from.

          1. I mean, they’re gonna fire him. But they’re not getting Urban Meyer. @spinnershells won’t move to SoCal and he’s happy with his Fox gig, Columbus restaurant and mansion being built on Siesta Key.

          2. Drake

            Maybe. The boatload of cash and best natural recruiting location in the country have to be tempting – and a chance to exact some revenge in a Rose Bowl, more national championships, etc.

          3. What “revenge” in a Rose Bowl? Against who?

          4. Ozymandias

            Against whom.

            /Ted’S

          5. Drake

            Ohio State? I doubt he was pleased with them when they went all SWJ on him.

          6. He just needs to wait a year or two for Gene Smith (the guy he’s most pissed at) to retire and they’ll offer him the AD job. He ain’t going anywhere.

          7. DOOMco

            New AD. I don’t think the coaching staff is going to make it.

            If they get a bowl game and win, his job might come down to recruitment.

    2. They have as many wins against teams with winning records (aTm and Southern Miss) as Penn State has against ranked teams (Iowa and TTUN). But they’ll be miles closer to the top 4 than the Nittany Lions will be this week.

      SEC bias is real.

      1. creech

        Linebacker U was shown up big time by Minnesoda in 1st half and deserves new #9 ranking.

        1. Oh, I agree. Penn State got knocked out. But they still have a markedly better resume that 1-loss Bama. But they’ll fall to 9-10 while Bama drops 1 or 2 spots to 4-5.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            HEY! Stop talking like there is some shame in losing to the Golden Rodents! We are for real!

            WE ARE THE U OF M!

            Kicks Sloopy into some giant pit.

    3. juris imprudent

      The diehards for ‘bama remind me a lot of the diehards for toss U.

    4. Both Danielson (ugh) and Nessler agreed on the broadcast they should drop to #4.

  18. The Late P Brooks

    The Senate will call Schiff to testify in a public session. Hopefully before the House votes.

    “Sergeant at Arms, bring out the Comfy Chair.”

  19. Rebel Scum

    Schiff has already said he won’t allow a few key figures to testify in the public hearings because it would be “redundant”.

    Meaning it would be damaging to his case.

  20. DOOMco

    “prevent dangerous people from having firearms, being in a home that has firearms, or being in the company of people with firearms.”

    You can’t hang out with them anymore.
    What is rights?

    1. leon

      being in the company of people with firearms

      How do they get arrested? Or do they get charged for violating the order when they get arrested?

    2. juris imprudent

      I guess the NZ police are unarmed like the English (used to be).

  21. Slammer

    The saving grace of the whole impeachment bullshit is it will fail due to the usual reason: the incompetence of all the actors

    1. DOOMco

      This election is going to be hilarious.

  22. Rhywun

    Let’s see what new low the USMNT can reach during it.

    It’s going to be hard to top the sight of Pulisic bawling his eyes out on the bench.

    1. leon

      The rant by the Fox Commentator calling out the members of the USMNT is still one of my favorite sports things to watch.

    2. juris imprudent

      More play it out at the back, followed by turnover under pressure. Watching the U17s you could see exactly what the coaches told them to do, except apparently the coaches didn’t tell them to get the ball across midfield and attack the other team’s goal.

  23. Rufus the Monocled

    I’m just happy the Cowboys can’t coach. What is it with these weird play calls? All night Dak was connecting with Cooper/Cobb and even uses Witten well when needed. But they run the ball in key situations when that wasn’t working for the game? Minnesota was stuffing the run game.

    And Minnesota is barely better. I don’t get these low percentage 3rd and 7 long passes. Cousins is hit or miss with those it seems.

    1. R C Dean

      Ay some point, you have to look at your top-dollar QB who loses to backups and ask yourself, “why are we paying you so much?

      That goes for Rogers, too. That was way too close yesterday.

    2. OneOut

      Those are my thoughts as well about the Cowboys playcalling. Especially at the end of the game. Pitiful

  24. The Late P Brooks

    “prevent dangerous people from having firearms dangerous ideas, being in a home that has firearms dangerous ideas, or being in the company of people with firearms dangerous ideas.”

    How’s that?

    1. leon

      Sounds like a good plan! / American Left

    2. Slammer

      Joseph Stalin — ‘Ideas are far more powerful than guns. We don’t let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?’

  25. Rufus the Monocled

    Respect on Remembrance Day.

    One of the more important days of observances there is.

    It should actually be a holiday.

    1. leon

      My Mom was shocked that i don’t have it off, and more shocked that the only time i got it off was when i worked for a Bank (and that was only one year). She’s always been used to Dad getting the day off.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        Some businesses close I think.

        1. R C Dean

          Not ours.

    2. Tejicano

      I had hoped to be spending the evening with a group of veterans I know here – but the stars aligned on spending the day in Disney Sea with my family so I ended up there. It was a good day anyway – Soaring Fantastic Flight was worth the LONG wait.

    3. Sensei

      I agree, but the US markets are open and I’m working.

      I’m also blocks away from Madison Square Park which is a veterans park in NYC. Roughly 4 blocks including two or three avenues are blocked off as the bad orange man is coming to lay a wreath. (This is a first for a sitting president.)

      Naturally people haven’t been able to keep their traps shut. To top it off, similar to the Westboro Baptist Church folk, I’m expecting that people here will be protesting the bad orange man doing his job as commander in chief.

      it seriously pisses me off.

      1. Rhywun

        Will Baby Trump make an appearance? That would be classy.

        1. Sensei

          That I don’t know. All I know is that it is a royal PITA to get to an enter my workplace.

          Mind you it’s not as bad as when I worked downtown near the heliport. When Obama was fundraising for his second term he screwed up my evening commute literally by hours multiple times.

          I learned the trick that by reading NOTAM I could figure out when the hell he was actually coming. A big shout out to my pilot friend. Otherwise you just got meaningless 3 hours blocks of time subject to shutdown from NYC because of “security”. The NOTAM let you know roughly inside an hour block.

      2. Akira

        I’m expecting that people here will be protesting the bad orange man doing his job as commander in chief.

        They’ll protest literally no matter what he does. They just invent standards on the spot (elections may not have “foreign interference”, you may not ask for something in return if you are handing out our money to other countries, etc). They make up this shit just for Trump, then pretend that it’s always been that way.

  26. Rebel Scum

    Russia’s greatest Napoleonic re-enactor found drunk in a river with the severed arms of his lover in his backpack

    I guess their relationship got a bit out of hand.

    1. He had such a disarming personality

    2. creech

      Yeah it is really hard to wrap your arms around this story.

    3. Dad Escaped Infantry

      would have been even funnier if they’d found him in the Rio Brazos

    4. blackjack

      Dude was 63 and she was 24. I’m just going to assume she said “an I oop”, and sksksksk’d one too many times.

      1. Not Adahn

        One of our (suspiciously) many russophones will have to translate that for us.

        1. скскскскскскск

          1. Rhywun

            И я уп!

  27. The Late P Brooks

    1 degree. It’s not light enough to get a good idea of how much snow fell, last night.

    Mornin’

    1. PieInTheSky

      Well at least it is not 12 degrees warmer than normal like round these parts which makes people worry although it is a perfectly pleasant temperature.

    2. blackjack

      Baby, it’s cuckold outside?

  28. Rebel Scum

    DACA

    Created by e.o. and can be ended by e.o. Sucks for the kids but anything less is a violation of the Constitution.

    1. leon

      You missed the clause where congress gives the president the authority to do something, but not the authority to undo something. See National Park Designations, and the punishment Utah has received for being a Red state from Lame Duck Democratic Presidents.

    2. Tonio

      And while it does suck for those DACA kids, and is perhaps unfair in some sense, the whole program simply encourages more illegal immigration and is a slap in the face to anyone who played by the rules and stood in line.

      1. Count Potato

        Well, you can’t expect children to abandon their parents.

        1. If my experience in a DACA clinic was representative, it’s a bunch of adults with questionable proof of childhood residency and a pile of stolen SSNs getting deferrals.

          I did feel sorry for the kid whose parents fucked up and didn’t get their visas renewed. Not much you can do at age 14 when your parents fuck up on that. That’s what DACA should protect.

          I’m a proponent of the open door, narrow gate method. Give illegals and other undocumented folks a wide open door to get legal, permanently. In exchange, the narrow gate of citizenship and social services requires them to pass up the permanent option, self-deport, and wait in line.

          1. leon

            I was gonna say “why don’t we have the “you can live here, and work, but becoming a citizen is difficult.”.

            But then i remembered why we don’t have that.

  29. The Late P Brooks

    And- Good fucking riddance to Peter King.

    We should just assume he’ll slime his way into a lobbyist spot.

    1. juris imprudent

      Yes but at least the SOB won’t have a vote any longer.

  30. Suthenboy

    I probably should be productive today but I am going to sneak in a day of nothing on the pretense that it is a holiday.

    Of the holiday I will just say this – Most people in America today do not know what true fear is. Thankfully this is due to people who do know what true fear is keeping things that way.

    You know who you are and so do I. *raises toast*

    1. leon

      Batman?

      (sorry couldn’t resist. I echo the sentiments)

    2. creech

      Will try to be productive after my morning echocardio test. Plan to put up a patriotic wreath on a Civil War monument, and then stop by a cemetery to get a Veterans Affairs form signed to receive a headstone for an unmarked Veteran’s grave.

    3. PieInTheSky

      Don’t toast without alcohol it can be bad luck, depending on local superstitions

      1. Suthenboy

        *looks at tiny print on vodka label*

        I am safe.

      2. Not Adahn

        Yes. Toasting with water = death by drowning.

    4. Pope Jimbo

      My service was pretty uneventful. I was in bootcamp when Reagan was bombing Libya and the closest the US came to hostilities when I was in was when we bombed the Iranian oil rigs.

      I’ve got all sorts of respect for the men and women who weren’t as lucky as me and had to go through hell during their time in uniform.

    1. blackjack

      Again, I’m going with one too many “an I oop’s” and SKSKSK’s.

  31. Tundra

    Fucking lefties still pining for top down collectivism while people in other countries are fighting and bleeding for their freedom. It’s disgusting that we are still even entertaining such stupidity.

    Can any of these pinheads read?

    Vaclav Nedomansky’s Hall of Fame journey started with a secret dash to freedom in 1974

    Before they left Czechoslovakia, Nedomansky managed to remove a few precious keepsakes from the family home in Bratislava. It had to be done quietly to avoid arousing suspicion.

    By the time his father got to the Bratislava apartment after the defection, government officials had already locked it down.

    What happened to the valuables inside? Apparently, neighbors and police took what they wanted.

    “Obviously, it makes you mad, but what can you do?” Nedomansky said.

    That was just the beginning of the effort to erase Nedomansky in his homeland.

    Former teammates were told he died in a car accident in North America. They were forbidden to speak his name. His accomplishments were scrubbed from the record books and his image was stricken from team photos.

    Happily, it didn’t work. All it did was inspire others to follow.

    This guy really says it best.

    1. leon

      It’s disgusting that we are still even entertaining such stupidity.

      I’m not the first one to say it, but the Left in my view is in the position that conservatives were in in the 50’s-60’s. Almost complete social dominance. They are freaking out about the fringe racists holding abhorrent views, but at the same time we are supposed to view the commies and commie sympathizers as some kind of heros for free thought? Both views are utterly reprehensible, and people who think they aren’t are moral degenerates.

      1. Akira

        They are freaking out about the fringe racists holding abhorrent views

        Not only that, but if you have any view that they believe is bad for minorities, you’re just as bad as the actual neo-Nazis.

        You think welfare has destroyed the black family and failed to reduce poverty? Nazi.

        You love immigration but believe it should happen within the legal framework that exists? Nazi.

    2. PieInTheSky

      Humans are dumb. No way around it

  32. Count Potato

    “Hey @nytimes, your piece about Death Row inmate Rodney Reed didn’t inform readers that his semen was found in the vagina of a 12-yr-old girl who was raped vaginally, anally, and orally, and that DNA links him to multiple rapes? Why’d you leave that out?”

    https://twitter.com/brandondarby/status/1193031219157467137

    1. Count Potato

      “Rodney Reed’s semen was found on a raped 12-year-old girl. This makes him a confirmed child rapist. So everyone rallying around him should at least be honest and admit that they are rallying around a confirmed child rapist.”

      https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1193714363363921925

      1. leon

        The argument is essentially “well this guy was a bad dude, so you should feel bad about saying he shouldn’t be killed for something he didn’t do”.

        1. ruodberht

          That sounds…reasonable. Did you think it wasn’t?

          1. leon

            I think killing a man for something he didn’t do is wrong, regardless of weather or not he was a bad dude.

          2. Jarflax

            Fine release him in the back yard of the father of the 12 year old and hand said father a pardon and a pistol.

          3. leon

            Sounds good to me. Execute the guy for Child Rape, I’m amiable to that position. But the whole point I’m making is that the “You’re defending an x” would fit very well at Emmet Till’s trail. Saying “We’re gonna execute this guy for a crime we know he didn’t commit, because he did this other crime is not justice.” Get him on the death penalty for that other crime.

          4. Jarflax

            Emmet Till was not a serial rapist. I understand your point, and even agree with it as a matter of principle, but I also understand and agree with those angry at the self congratulatory “we must spare this innocent man” BS going around. The principles are worth upholding even in bad cases, but in this case calling him an innocent man is nonsense.

            Vacate the conviction if he did not commit that particular crime, but do it after you are sure you can convict him of the others.

          5. leon

            That’s fair, People trotting him out as an innocent are being disingenuous. I wonder if they do that because they know the public isn’t going to be receptive to the idea of vacating a conviction and stopping an execution for a child rapist. Still it is not an honest way, and i think it ends up turning “Law and Order” types off.

  33. PieInTheSky

    So as an interesting fact, PSD or Partidul Social Democrat is the most corrupt and incompetent of many corrupt and incompetent parties in this country. It is a direct descendant of Frontul Salvarii nationale, the original post 89 commie party with the slogan socialism with human face – a popular slogan in post commie E Europe, where a bunch of commies grouped together to take Romania out of communism. PSD was in power for a majority of post 90s history and it was a disaster for Romania from every imaginable point of view.

    For the last years in power it was accuse of suppressing the vote of Romanian citizens living abroad by organizing to few polling places and a slow process. The last few election there were huge lines of Romanians waiting to vote. This time the process was better and a record number voted. The candidate for PSD got less than 3% of the vote abroad. And 23% of the vote overall, although they had the worst candidate ever.

    1. straffinrun

      So not even one candidate, even from a minor party, that was not horrible? Par for the course, but ….

  34. Rebel Scum

    Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.

    “Whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican, whether you’re from New York or the middle of the country, you should be frightened by efforts to try to create crimes out of nothing,” Dershowitz told host John Catsimatidis. “The latest twist was people on television, particularly CNN and MSNBC, are saying that if the president or somebody else were to name the whistleblower in the Ukrainian situation that person would be guilty of a crime. Well, I spent the afternoon yesterday searching the federal criminal statutes from beginning to end. I couldn’t find the crime.”

    “It reminds me of what Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the KGB, said to Stalin. He said, ‘Show me the man, and I’ll find you the crime,’ which he really meant, ‘I’ll make up the crime.’ And so the Democrats are now making up crimes,” he added.

    And Jefferey Epstein didn’t kill himself.

  35. PieInTheSky

    How the early Christian church gave birth to today’s WEIRD Europeans

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/11/how-early-christian-church-gave-birth-today-s-weird-europeans

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      I posted a link to the original paper a few months back.

  36. Certified Public Asshat

    Mark Cuban Slams Warren: Her Tax Plan Is To ‘Divert Attention From Her Income And Net Worth’

    On Saturday, billionaire Mark Cuban slammed Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren for her proposal to raise taxes on the wealthy, of which Forbes noted, “Add them up and many of the very wealthiest could pay a marginal effective tax rate on their investments that exceeds 100 percent.”

    Cuban tweeted, “The reality for @ewarren is that this is as much to divert attention from her income and net worth as anything else. Other than steyer she is the wealthiest of all the Dem Candidates. By far.”

    Cuban can be a little too blue for me, but I like this.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I somewhat admire he actually hustled as a youth to get the $$. Took risks started businesses etc had entrepreneurial spirit

    2. Rebel Scum

      Curious how Fauxcahontas and TheBern! are going after billionaires. Surely no one needs millions of dollars and multiple houses either…

    3. Rhywun

      Well it’s an OK attack.

      I think a better one is that her plans would destroy the economy.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        That’s how his twitter rant started:

        Maybe I’m wrong but an effective tax rate of 140% on the initial ANNUAL liquidity event to cover the cost of the wealth tax is going to lead to some dramatic behavior changes and could impact the stock and other liquid markets as wealth tax payers try to create enough cash— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) November 2, 2019

        1. Rhywun

          Better.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        I thought Cuban was from TX. Why he be using Sooner attack techniques?

        1. Dad Escaped Infantry

          like most Texans, he’s from Pittsburgh

        2. Not Adahn

          Because the wishbone triple option will NEVER go out of style!

  37. Count Potato

    “Breaking a window in SF is not a crime. But operating a tech company in SF, that is the true crime!”

    https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1193765183002464258

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/local-politics/article/What-s-the-answer-to-quality-of-life-crimes-in-14563426.php

    Woken Window Policy?

    1. Rhywun

      How can you tell any of these idiots apart?

      1. juris imprudent

        You can’t, nor do you need to; they aren’t individuals, they are collective.

    2. leon

      San Fransisco continues it’s slide into “Bad Luck”

      1. Tourist dollars will dry up.

        Convention dollars will vanish.

        It will become quite the shithole in no time flat.

        And someone else will get the blame.

    3. Rebel Scum

      If you aren’t going to prosecute you need to change the law.

      1. Rhywun

        That’s just crazy-talk.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      What did you expect from a guy who was raised by Bill Ayers and went to Venezuela to support Chavez?

      1. Rhywun

        Wake me up when he honeymoons in Cuba.

        /Bill Deblasio

          1. Rhywun

            Nice blast from the past

  38. Pope Jimbo

    What a weekend! Golden Rodents! I managed to shoot a bunch of deer. The Vikings managed to win (although whoever called a pitch play that late in the game deserves to be whipped). Everything is good.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      Oh, and btw, happy belated birthday to all the Devil Dogs here.

  39. PieInTheSky

    A court in Bucharest approved insolvency proceeding for RADET the huge government enterprise providing heat to commie apartment blocks. Off course they promise that all necessary heat will be delivered in winter. I am curios. We may be back to commie levels of freezing.

    1. Rhywun

      New York City’s commie housing can’t provide heat, either. Funny how that works.

      1. leon

        They are doing their part to fight global warming.

      2. ChipsnSalsa

        My business can’t provide heat either. Cold in the basement.

        *throws another ream of useless reports on the burn barrel*

  40. The Late P Brooks

    socialism with human face

    Socialism ON a human face.

    Stamping merrily away.

    1. leon

      we should start a “Fact Checker-Checker”.

      We aggregate stories and call them as “Hackish, biased, nuanced, Fair”

      Politifacts rating would be => “Hackish”

    2. blackjack

      That’s the law of the land out here, already.

    3. ::inserts Arsenio Hall spit take gif here::

      1. DOOMco

        iTs NoT fReE cUz TaXeS!

        So now they get to use basic economics? In a pendantic way?

        1. leon

          So they will go back and rate all of the promises that Warren/Sanders make on “Free College tuition” as Pants on fire lies?

          You can’t have it both ways.

          1. wdalasio

            You can’t have it both ways.

            Yeah, they pretty much can. If you know that the majority of the people reading your crap aren’t going to check, but swallow it blindly in a fit of Gell-Mann Amnesia, consistency isn’t really much of a consideration.

          2. Akira

            Some people really do think that labelling an article “fact check” means that it’s impossible to lie.

      2. straffinrun

        Inserts “u” instead of “a” in “Politifact”.

    4. Count Potato

      WTF???

      1. DOOMco

        “They weren’t all the candidates,”
        “The candidates were not asked if that coverage would be free.”

        Where free suddenly means actually free for the first time and not “taxpayer money and debt”

        1. leon

          “The candidates were not asked if that coverage would be free.”

          Lets see: Every one of them has talked about a Medicare Plan, saying we need free healthcare.

          when asked about the plan vis-a-vis illegal immigrants, they said they would cover them. It seems a bit mendacious to then say “Well the weren’t asked about whether it would be free”.

          See above for my response about saying Taxes means it’s not free. You can’t have it both ways. Either say free (and mean Tax financed) or say it’s not free, and call them out as liars for saying it was free in the first place.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    Fucking lefties still pining for top down collectivism while people in other countries are fighting and bleeding for their freedom. It’s disgusting that we are still even entertaining such stupidity.

    Can any of these pinheads read?

    History is booooring, dood. Giime fiddy bucks.

  42. Trigger Hippie
    1. Trigger Hippie

      Oh, and thank you to all you veterans for getting me a paid day off. 😉

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Shapiro believes that changing J.C. Nichols Parkway to MLK Jr. Drive would help bridge the racial divide in the city.

      Explain to me, exactly, how changing a road name will bridge a “racial divide”?

      1. Rhywun

        Well it’s worked everywhere else duh.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It adds a line to the politicians’ curriculum vitae.

  43. The Late P Brooks

    I just turned on some news. The idiots are huffing and puffing about whether Trump is going to go to Moscow for the May Day parade.

    That Trump- what a thug.

    1. Suthenboy

      Who made May Day a national holiday? I forget….

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You would think that they would celebrate that.

      1. juris imprudent

        Not since the glorious people’s republic became a run-of-the-mill tyranny. Only when pursuing human-crushing revolution is Russia to be venerated!

  44. gbob

    “Where does Napoleon keep his armies?”

    “In his sleevies”

    Or in this case, a backpack.

    1. Not Adahn

      “backpackees”

  45. DOOMco

    Dog update.
    No sign of her, and there’s more snow tonight. Probably a foot.

    Hoped we’d find her so we can bury her.

    As for my dog, the fur is starting to come back, at the last minute before winter really gets here.
    No news on blood work yet, the doctor wasn’t there Friday and didn’t leave any notes.

    Meanwhile, ladydoom is very pregnart.
    Getting middle name sorted, and finishing her room. Still hoping she’s born before Christmas.

    1. l0b0t

      Ugh… sorry about the dog. Congrats on the upcoming bairn.

    2. Jarflax

      Are you sure she didn’t get picked up by animal control? Years ago I had two dogs run off, one came home but the other had been injured and was at the pound. Happiest critter I ever saw when I showed up to claim her.

      1. DOOMco

        Parents live in the middle of nowhere. There is the county animal control guy who actually lives nearby, but he’s been there several times trying to get a bear.
        He knows the dogs.
        There’s a chance someone found her on the road. Social media has helped spread some pictures of her around the county.

    3. Tundra

      Sorry, Doom. That doesn’t sound good.

      I’m glad things are well with momma, though. What’s the due date?

      1. DOOMco

        Day after Christmas. Shes pretty good, but it’s getting hard to move. Getting upright and finding a way to sleep. Lots of pillows.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      Sad news about the dog.

      To properly shitlord, you should be hoping for birth before year end so you can claim child on taxes.

      1. DOOMco

        Just sucks to not know completely.

        That’s a thing that hadn’t even crossed my mind yet!

    5. Count Potato

      Congrats on the baby!

      Sorry about the dog 🙁

    6. gbob

      Sad news about the dog.

      Have you tried convincing Ladydoom on the middle name “woodchipper”?

      1. DOOMco

        That beats her brothers suggestion of “blood eagle”
        I’ll let you know what she says.

        1. TARDIS

          Glibbie sounds kind of feminine.

          Congrats.

          Sorry about the dog.

        2. Jarflax

          No, woodchipper does NOT beat Blood Eagle. Blood Eagle is Metal as Fuck™.

    7. R C Dean

      Getting middle name sorted,

      May I modestly suggest “C” as the middle name. It has certainly served me well.

    8. Slammer

      Sorry, man. I feel for you

  46. Pope Jimbo

    By the way, you are all shitlords for talking about THE U of M’s football team. You should be talking about The U of M’s women’s hockey team.

    Tundra is a double-plus-ungood shitlord for not linking to this because he likes hockey.

    1. Tundra

      Are they the ones that play at the 3400 seat arena?

  47. Count Potato

    Crap, I just realized I missed the new Rick & Morty

  48. The Late P Brooks

    NOT GOOD ENOUGH

    Slashing the corporate tax rate and restructuring the tax code, supporters said, would incentivize businesses to invest their money back into the U.S. economy, buying up equipment, buildings and software to accommodate more workers and make them more productive

    Lowering income taxes, they argued, would also leave Americans with more money to spend, providing an economic stimulus.

    But economists say that stimulus has worn off, helping to explain the falling economic growth rate since last year.

    And while there was a small boost in business investment right after the tax cuts passed, research at the Center for American Progress (CAP), a left-leaning think tank, found that the boost was minor or insignificant when averaged over several quarters.

    “That was part of the explanation from the GOP about why the tax cuts would lead to jobs, because of this process where increased tax savings businesses would have would then be invested, which would lead to greater productivity,” said Alex Thornton, Senior Director of Tax Policy at CAP.

    “A drop in business investment means the types of economic activities that generate jobs and higher pay and innovation are not happening as fast,” she added.

    We need to raise taxes, and let the government put that money to work.

    Multiplizers!

    Stimuluss!

    1. kbolino

      And yet, unemployment is at a 40-year low and still falling, and LFPR has stopped falling and is slowly increasing again.

      Maybe your measure of what leads to job creation is wrong?

    2. R C Dean

      research at the Center for American Progress (CAP), a left-leaning think tank, found that the boost was minor or insignificant when averaged over several quarters.

      Now do the reduction in health care costs after ObamaCare.

  49. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. People don’t understand economics very good

    The surcharges are spreading like ants at a picnic, and they come with an array of justifications: to help pay for real estate, raise wages or even fight climate change.

    In the metro area, a 3 percent fee for health insurance is becoming more common, and add-ons appear for credit card use, takeout food and use of certain rooms. They are on top of sales taxes, special restaurant taxes and, of course, a tip.

    The fees are a reaction to the climbing costs of doing business — and a sign of an industry in trouble.

    “Hospitality as we know it is over,” said Sara Phelps, event director of the Lexington Restaurant in St. Paul. Phelps said new obstacles are hurting restaurants, including rising health care costs, a labor shortage and a looming $15-an-hour wage for workers.

    “The business model of tipped employees getting minimum wage is going to be a fleeting memory soon,” she said. Restaurants will be driven out of business, she said — unless they can recover money through add-on fees.

    I’m not sure if these extra “Health and Wellness” fees being tacked onto the bill are directly due to some govt program or if they are just a way to try to make patrons pay more. (Thanks J-school for turning out writers who get to the heart of Who,What,When,Why).

    1. PieInTheSky

      on the other hand if there is a labor shortage they should expect increasing wages irrespective of minimum wage

  50. Tundra

    Why We Must Reclaim ‘Armistice Day’

    The game is rigged, and we ain’t in it! For proof, pay attention this Monday as both Dem and Republican politicians, both red and blue media, hyperbolically (and frankly embarrassingly) extoll the virtues of America’s soldiers who kill and die for about $30k a year, who are still deployed in dozens of combat zones that few citizens could locate on a map. That’s evidence, and it’s instructive. My fellow veterans don’t necessarily need more thanks. We need, instead, your attention, your support, your careful deployment of our energies and sacrifices only in defense of the most vital national interests and the homeland itself. Most of all we need the reinvigorated dream of Armistice Day—-a holiday imbued with hopes and dreams for a better world. At the very least, for a nation that chooses not to wage forever war.

    Hard to disagree.

    1. ChipsnSalsa

      only in defense of the most vital national interests and the homeland itself

      Don’t give the hawks an inch. All of a sudden bumfuckEgypt is a “national interest”.

      1. juris imprudent

        I demand an elaboration of “national interest”. The fucks can never speak beyond those two words and expect a reaction like a soccer-mom to “for the children”.

        1. R C Dean

          Reminds me of the Obama admin’s “responsibility to protect”, which seemed to say that only military action which did not advance our national interest was morally legitimate.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          Easy. “National” means “my cronies and me”.

          That having been said, if forced to choose, I prefer the honesty of realpolitik over Wilsonian Idealism.

          1. R C Dean

            Same here.

            “Doing right ain’t got no end” and a powerful military are a very bad combination.

          2. Jarflax

            So what tribe is Trump? He isn’t a Wilsonian or Hamiltonian obviously. Nor is he a Jeffersonian. He sounds like a Jacksonian and clearly appeals to them, but as a New Yorker who does not seem the second amendment maybe not all the way in their tribe.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            It’s a good question. If we judge him by his actions, as opposed to his rhetoric, then it is clear that he sincerely believes that the FDR policy of the 4 World Policemen needs to be consigned to the trash heap. And good on him! This is in contrast to his domestic policies, which reflect his Boomer heritage in imitation of Eisenhower.

          4. Jarflax

            I admit I am skeptical about that tribal model of American Politics anyway. There are definitely people who the Jacksonian label fits, and people the Wilsonian label fits, and those two groups do seem to have a very tribal culture, witness the Jacksonian response to any perceived slight toward Veterans or our heroes in blue, and the Wilsonian dismay that a non-Top Man is in the White House.

            But both tribes are fairly small, with a lot of people who are very loosely aligned giving them influence. And the other tribes always seem added just as an afterthought in recognition that Jefferson and Hamilton don’t really fit in the other two camps and can’t easily be dismissed as forces in our political environment.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            It think it best to view Trump as a living Rorschach test, which is the key to his success.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      SHUT THE FUCK UP, LIBTARD!

      Mexico’s president asked Trump to nuke the cartels.

      1. R C Dean

        We’ve been following the story pretty closely, since its just south of here and the Mormons just abandoned their Mexican properties and crossed the border en masse, heading to Tucson and Phoenix.

        Mrs. Dean and I are completely convinced that yes, the Mormons were specifically targetted (contra the official Mexican line, which is that it was all a big mistake), and that there is a backstory/history here that we aren’t being told. This group and the cartels have a long history, with previous violence a number of years ago where the Mormon leader was killed. There is something else going on that nobody is talking about.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Agreed. From 2nd-hand sources, I’ve learned that organized crime usually goes out of its way to not harm “normals” for no good reason. Also, the nature of the crime points to specific targeting, in my opinion. When you sexually assault and slaughter women and children, you’re sending a message.

          1. R C Dean

            The cartels have been surprisingly careful about keeping their ultraviolence on the Mexican side of the border, IMO.

            I do find it somewhat interesting that the “official” line in the papers here omits the sexual assault. I suppose they have to report the official Mexican line that the Americans weren’t targetted, but they do it pretty uncritically. If the sicarios really thought they were attacking a rival cartel, they wouldn’t have shot up multiple vehicles after they stopped and the passengers started getting out.

            Another odd thing: supposedly the first rescue attempt turned back because nobody had any guns. I find it extremely hard to believe that a Mormon compound in cartel land would be unarmed, and that it wouldn’t send an armed rescue expedition when they learned a convoy of their women and children had gotten butchered on the road.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            All I know is that the proper response lies in the domain of law enforcement. We only need to look at our friends in Thailand to see what send your military into a narco-war on your southern border gets you. Though, to be fair, we paid them to do so.

    3. You know else wanted to reclaim ‘Armistace Day’? Well, actually the day after …

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      How long before Vogel is seeking new employment?

    2. DOOMco

      Is it more projection?

  51. Mornin’, Glibbies. 9:15 and already 225 comments while I got a shit-ton to do. Have a good day, folks!

  52. Drake

    I noticed this too – the press went from denying the existence of the Deep State to celebrating it so fast most people missed it.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      One step closer to collapse.

  53. leon

    I have my questions about the Validity of any survey so take it with a big grain of salt:

    https://www.axios.com/axios-hbo-poll-politics-democrats-mad-c78f29c5-4c79-448e-8c7c-7d648f88a832.html

    More than 70% of Democrats say politics is making them increasingly angry about America, leaving them feeling like “strangers in their own land,” according to an “Axios on HBO” poll conducted by SurveyMonkey.

    Why it matters: Democrats say nearly everything they watch, read or listen to triggers their anger, even the soothing voices of NPR.

    Sounds like angry white liberals are upset with the way American is changing. Must be due to some kinda racisism, where they wan’t to preserve the power of the White Liberal Democratic Party. They Feel like strangers in “their own land”, gee a bit nationalistic for you?

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They thought they were in charge.

    2. R C Dean

      They Feel like strangers in “their own land”, gee a bit nationalistic for you?

      Are people who support open borders, transnational “government”, globalism, etc. complaining about feeling like strangers in their own land? Or are they celebrating it?

    3. Slammer

      Pottery

  54. Slammer

    Ryan Fournier
    @RyanAFournier
    ·
    13h
    ABC News be like…

    We didn’t kill the story.

    The story committed suicide.

    1. Gender Traitor

      I larfed.

    2. MikeS

      ABC Asks Viewers To Send In Evidence On Epstein So They Can Destroy It And Then Murder You

      “If you have anything that would help us uncover how deep this thing goes, please, we beg you: send it to our tipline so we can immediately bury it,” one on-air personality pleaded with the audience. “It’s important that we find out how many connections Epstein had among the political elite, so we can shield those elites from any damaging accusations.”

      1. TARDIS

        BB just kills me.

      2. Drake

        They have a photograph of the right guy.

    1. Drake

      The only good commies…

  55. The Late P Brooks

    Evul billionaire vulture kkkapitalists

    Whitebox Advisors LLC, a credit-focused hedge fund, has been quietly capitalizing on Wall Street’s ambivalence toward gun manufacturers by replacing some banks as a lender to Remington Outdoor Company.

    Whitebox, whose assets under management have grown from $2 billion to $6 billion in the last six years, became a major lender to Remington this year, according to people familiar with the transactions that allowed it to build its position.

    Minneapolis-based Whitebox refinanced a $193 million loan to Remington that had been provided by seven banks, according to the sources. Many of the banks have been under pressure from their customers and some politicians to sever ties with the gun industry.

    Remington, the maker of an AR-15-style semi-automatic rifle used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting of six adults and 20 children in 2012, filed for bankruptcy in 2017 amid declining gun sales. It exited bankruptcy last year, but still faces a lawsuit from the families of the Sandy Hook victims in the U.S. Supreme Court over its role as a gun manufacturer.

    Whitebox’s investment in Remington illustrates how some hedge funds, whose investors include pension funds, financial institutions and high-net-worth individuals, do not share the same reputational concerns as many banks. It also underscores the emergence of hedge funds as “shadow banks,” replacing traditional lenders to companies.

    “Given the baggage of these particular loans for banks that are public companies, it is an invitation to hedge funds to get in and relieve the bank of an asset they don’t really want to hold,” said Campbell Harvey, a professor finance at Duke University. “A hedge fund is a private entity, it doesn’t need to answer to public shareholders.”

    Ten bucks is ten bucks.

  56. R C Dean

    Many of the banks have been under pressure from their customers and some politicians to sever ties with the gun industry.

    Why do I doubt this?

    1. kbolino

      It doesn’t say “a majority of” their customers.

      1. DOOMco

        Mostly true!
        -politifact

      2. Rhywun

        The power of a couple tweets is a thing to behold.

      3. R C Dean

        I guess if two of their millions of customers bitched about it, that would be “pressure from their customers”?

        Every time I think I know how to lie by omission, the media teaches me that no, I really don’t.

        1. kbolino

          Oh, you’re not thinking of half of it. This is the representatives of big customers crowding out smaller ones. It’s the principal-agent problem writ large. This is people managing large sums of money on behalf of others, who may (or may not) have some skill at the task, but who live or die by social interactions. Banking is about trust more than it is about money, and these are the people who trust each other. Unless the personal account holders revolt (and they won’t), the big accounts will dictate policy.

          1. R C Dean

            Of course, the question of whether large corporate customers would actually change banks (not a small undertaking) over a bank having icky deplorable customers is never asked, apparently.

            You’re right, though, that banking, like insurance, has a large dose of trust and “subjectivities” in it. And as our elites get more inbred and insulated from the rest of us, you’ll see more of this. The danger will be when the infection reaches the regulators (which it will, in fact, already has), who will shut off anyone from providing financial services to icky deplorables.

          2. Of course, the question of whether large corporate customers would actually change banks (not a small undertaking) over a bank having icky deplorable customers is never asked, apparently.

            If my company is representative, then such things aren’t outside of the realm of possibility. We’re starting to subject vendors to wokeness scrutiny.

    2. MikeS

      Many. Like, 23 or so.

      1. leon

        The whole point of articles like this is to normalize, demoralize, and make it look like they are winning. I don’t see this as a big issue for the gun Industry. The Banking Industry might be corrupt, but it is also fairly diverse and competitive amongst the established players. If a gun company can’t get what they want from one bank, they will get what they want from another.

    3. leon

      The Gun industry is big enough to start it’s own bank.

      1. kbolino

        Ha ha ha, nope!

        /SEC

      2. juris imprudent

        As I recall, Americans spend more on pizza every year than they do on guns. So, no – not even close.

        1. leon

          Yes. They could. They don’t because they are still being serviced by banks. See my above comment. If all the banks stopped servicing gun stores another one would pop up specifically to service them, because the profits would be insane. The fact of the matter is that these pieces are written to puff up Liberal’s pride in what they are doing, and get the idea rolling. But gun stores are not Marijuana dealers. I’m not gonna get worked up over something that is a non issue.

  57. PieInTheSky

    The GDR was more democratic, in the original and substantive sense of the word, than eastern Germany was before 1949 and than the former East Germany has become since the Berlin Wall was opened in 1989. It was also more democratic in this original sense than its neighbor, West Germany. While it played a role in the GDR’s eventual demise, the Berlin Wall was at the time a necessary defensive measure to protect a substantively democratic society from being undermined by a hostile neighbor bent on annexing it.

    https://gowans.blog/2009/10/25/democracy-east-germany-and-the-berlin-wall/

    . Ultimately, what the citizens of the GDR rebelled against was their comparative poverty. But this had nothing to do with socialism. East Germans were poorer than West Germans even before the Western powers divided Germany in the late 1940s, and remain poorer today. A capitalist East Germany, forced to start at a lower level of economic development and to disgorge war reparation payments to the USSR, would not have become the social welfare consumer society West Germany became and East Germans aspired after, but would have been at least as worse off as the GDR was, and probably much worse off, and without the socialist attractions of economic security and greater equality.

    1. PieInTheSky

      this is almost peak derp

      1. kbolino

        It is truly astonishing.

        – The wall was a “defensive measure”, yet all of its “defenses” pointed inward.

        – These “socialist attractions” didn’t seem to actually, you know, attract anyone

        – The USSR (a socialist state) was the cause of poverty in the DDR (another socialist state)

        – The DDR was “democratic” despite not holding any real elections and being the target of the observation “Would it not in that case be simpler for the government to dissolve the people and elect another?”

        – The DDR had “greater equality” which must explain why Ulbricht and Honecker had estates in a secure compound while the average person had trouble finding food and keeping the heat on

        1. leon

          The DDR was “democratic” despite not holding any real elections

          Thats the boogie form of democratci, not the “original” version which means stasi aparatics get to decide how to equalized you.

          1. Rhywun

            I noticed a long time ago that any country which deliberately puts the word “Democratic” in their full name is anything but. One example of many.

          2. kbolino

            Somebody should go tell the Athenians they didn’t know what their own words meant!

        2. Drake

          I suppose there is a perfectly logical explanation for the mass-grave in this guy’s garden too?

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      While East Germany (the German Democratic Republic, or GDR) wasn’t a ‘workers’ paradise’, it was in many respects a highly attractive model that was responsive to the basic needs of the mass of people and therefore was democratic in the substantive and original sense of the word.

      damn, that takes some stones to write that.

      1. PieInTheSky

        if only you Americans did not steal their patents

      2. R C Dean

        it was in many respects a highly attractive model that was responsive to the basic needs of the mass of people

        People have a basic need to be surveilled, informed on, and prevented from leaving their country?

        democratic in the substantive and original sense of the word.

        Eventually, you define a word down far enough that it loses any real meaning. I think they just did that with “democracy”.

    3. Rhywun

      the original and substantive sense of the word

      LOL

      It must be “let’s make shit up” Monday.

      1. kbolino

        Rule by the people, subjugation of the people, same thing right?

    4. Drake

      It sucked but everyone got to vote… win?

    5. Gustave Lytton

      the Western powers divided Germany in the late 1940s

      Western powers including USSR? And the late 40’s?

      1. kbolino

        The Western powers actually retreated a bit and gave more of Germany to the USSR than the it held when the Germans surrendered.

        1. PieInTheSky

          But stole the engineers

    6. Gustave Lytton

      Amazing that an apologist for a murderous ideology that ground millions underfoot on 2 or 3 or more orders of magnitude than Nazism is unafraid to sling that shit.

    7. Biff

      What, nobody else remembers all those people being shot trying to get over the wall into East Berlin?

  58. prolefeed

    From the NZ gun control link:

    This would include not only gang members, but also people with extremist views

    I’m guessing eventually “extremist views” would include “people who own or carry guns”

    1. straffinrun

      Everybody has “extremist views” these days. It could be a blessing or a curse to finally see the destruction of the Overton window.

  59. The Late P Brooks

    An interesating little tidbit:

    A Wells Fargo spokesman declined to comment specifically on Remington, but said “the bank has not picked a side in the gun violence prevention debate like some of its big bank peers.”

    “We do not believe that the American public wants banks to decide which legal products consumers can and cannot buy,” the Wells Fargo spokesman said.

    I guess that means Wells Fargo doesn’t *completely* suck.

  60. The Late P Brooks

    More than 70% of Democrats say politics is making them increasingly angry about America, leaving them feeling like “strangers in their own land,” according to an “Axios on HBO” poll conducted by SurveyMonkey.

    Awwwww. Poor babies.

    1. MikeS

      Then they should try not making everything political.

  61. PieInTheSky

    Scoob! – Official Trailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otcw8Wi_ggI

    Well this looks shit

    1. MikeS

      “Thank me for my service,” he said with a wink as he drove off into the sunset, running over five more old ladies.

      hahaha

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      I think cops must have their cell phones glued to their ears for how much I see them talking on them while driving.

      1. Rhywun

        cell phones glued to their ears

        I see that literally, almost every time I get in a taxi or hired limo. Or at least before headsets became more common, they would use some contraption to hold the thing against their ear. Either way, they talk the entire time. I don’t like it.

        1. leon

          You don’t understand the constitution Joe. I don’t need permission, and you don’t have permission to stop me.

        2. TARDIS

          He realized his mistake

          He must have an army of face Palmer’s to let him know how many times a day he says something retarded.

  62. The Late P Brooks

    Confession: WFC was a pretty big winner for me, many years ago.

    I wouldn’t touch it, now.

    1. World Fart Council?

  63. PieInTheSky

    Apparently the first audio message broadcast into space with the ostensible purpose of communicating with aliens was the sound of vaginal contractions in ballerinas.

    https://twitter.com/CultureHouse/status/1193902569317380096

  64. The Late P Brooks

    While it played a role in the GDR’s eventual demise, the Berlin Wall was at the time a necessary defensive measure to protect a substantively democratic society from being undermined by a hostile neighbor bent on annexing it.

    To be sure.

    1. R C Dean

      While it played a role in the GDR’s eventual demise, the Berlin Wall was at the time a necessary defensive measure to protect a substantively democratic society from being undermined by a hostile neighbor bent on annexing it.

      Well, it turns out the Berlin Wall wasn’t protecting communists from capitalists, so much as protecting capitalists from communists. When it came down, the transformation of Western Europe into the Union of European Socialist Republics really got underway.

      1. Tundra

        Come on, man, you know better than that. Remember all the stories of people in West Berlin secretly yearning to cross and participate in the glorious workers’ paradise? Late at night, furtively listening to GDR propaganda radio while dreaming of one day crossing.

        Oh wait, that’s backwards.

      2. kbolino

        Well, it turns out the Berlin Wall wasn’t protecting communists from capitalists, so much as protecting capitalists from communists

        Not really. The wall (and the Iron Curtain more broadly) gave everyone a dose of reality about what communism really meant. The fall of the wall didn’t lead to a bunch of communists flooding the West, it led to a bunch of people in the West forgetting about communism. The current crop of socialists are not transplants from the East, they’re homegrown idiots who don’t have to explain why a concrete death strip isn’t where their ideas will lead.

        1. R C Dean

          Dude, I think your snarkometer needs recalibrating.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Or exile to a Siberian labor camp.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    this is almost peak derp

    I don’t believe peak derp is attainable, but that is pretty dadblamed close.

  66. PieInTheSky

    This is nuts. A supposedly American ISIS fighter captured by Turkey in Syria and deported to Greece (?) was denied entry by Greece and remains in a no-man’s-land between the two countries.

    https://twitter.com/p_zalewski/status/1193875090292781056

    1. R C Dean

      Why not send him to Syria?

      Oh, because Erdogan is threatening to flood Europe with terrorists and “migrants”. You know, as allies are wont to do.

  67. Charles Easterly

    Completely off topic(s) yet in keeping with commentator tendency to post “Florida Man” type links: Florida Woman got
    testy”
    with her boyfriend.

  68. The Late P Brooks

    Leave no stone unturned

    British Airways has launched a review into a money-saving practice which increases its greenhouse gas emissions.

    It follows a BBC investigation exposing “fuel tankering” by airlines – in which planes are filled with extra fuel, usually to avoid paying higher prices for refuelling at destination airports.

    The industry-wide practice could mean extra annual emissions equivalent to those of a large European town.

    BA now says that using tankering to cut costs “may be the wrong thing to do”.

    However, the airline added that it also uses the practice for safety and operational reasons, including helping planes to turn around quickly.

    ——-

    John Sauven, Greenpeace UK’s executive director, told the BBC that fuel tankering was a “classic example of a company putting profit before planet”.

    Responding to BA’s decision to carry out a review, Mr Sauven, said it showed how the airline industry had been treating climate change “like a PR problem”.

    “This is why we need government-enforced reduction targets to ensure airlines take responsibility for the damage their emissions are causing,” he said.

    Root out the heretics. Our Doomsday cult must control your every thought and deed.

    1. R C Dean

      annual emissions equivalent to those of a large European town

      *gasp*

      There’s no downside, I’m sure, to putting planes in the air with barely enough fuel to reach their destination.

    2. Rhywun

      International Airlines Group (IAG), the company that owns BA, says it wants to be the world’s leading airline group on sustainability.

      Fuck safety, price, and service. Git woke!

    3. kbolino

      Not at any point during any of this did anyone bother to ask why the prices could be so high at destination airports?

    4. kbolino

      Also, just wait until they discover idling in any industry that uses trucks or heavy equipment.

    5. kinnath

      Fuel tankering is pretty much standard practice, particularly for hub and spoke operations. When the aircraft is at the hub, you fill it with enough fuel to go out to the spoke and back. This eliminates fueling time at the spoke airport (reducing turn around time), and reduces costs because you are fueling all your aircraft at the hub under a contract for preferred pricing.

      Fueling at the spoke airports is just dumb.

      1. R C Dean

        But, annual emissions equivalent to those of a large European town!!! A. Large. European. Town. Oh, the humanity!

  69. The Late P Brooks

    That having been said, if forced to choose, I prefer the honesty of realpolitik over Wilsonian Idealism.

    “No blood for oil!”

    Blood for nothing, then?

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I’m not sure I get what you’re saying here. Please elaborate.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      “Blood for lining the pockets of the DC suburbs!” doesn’t really roll off the tongue.

    3. juris imprudent

      God, king and country, amirite?

  70. PieInTheSky

    Uber CEO on Saudi Arabia’s killing of Jamal Khashoggi: “It’s a serious mistake. We’ve made mistakes too, right, with self-driving … So I think that people make mistakes. It doesn’t mean that they can never be forgiven”

    https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1193698590641860608

    1. R C Dean

      Why the fuck is Uber’s CEO prattling about the Saudis greasing Khashoggi? And doing so in a way that equates someone getting hit by one of their cars with being murdered and dismembered?

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Because it’s always smart to get in good with your boss.

        1. Jarflax

          Mistakes were made, limbs became detached, stones and women became colocated, , and aircraft became colocated with buildings. Is that any justification for the perpetuating racist hatred for Islamics? Please turn aside from your racist evil and embrace the house of Saud and we will forgive your evil.

          1. leon

            Let he who is without sin cast the first plane into a building full of people.

          2. Akira

            Mistakes were made, limbs became detached, stones and women became colocated, , and aircraft became colocated with buildings. Is that any justification for the perpetuating racist hatred for Islamics? Please turn aside from your racist evil and embrace the house of Saud and we will forgive your evil.

            Some people just did something. That’s all.

            /Omar

          3. juris imprudent

            Savor the irony that Kissinger was the architect of the American embrace of the Saudis.

    2. Urthona

      ok that there is funny.

    3. Rhywun

      I wonder what the Uber CEO’s hot-take on chicken sandwiches is.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      yeah, I mean I’ve forgotten to take out the steaks early enough so they are ready to grill for dinner. We’ve all goofed up, why should we let this “purposeful death” get in the way of what will be a great partnership.

  71. The Late P Brooks

    That was not accusative, HM. That is my interpretation of the argument.

    The people who run around saying, “No blood for oil” don’t seem to have any coherent conceptualization of what, exactly, we’re spilling blood for. It doesn’t seem to matter much, as long as the right person is pushing the buttons.

    Realpolitik at least implies some tangible benefit.

    1. PieInTheSky

      I was going to make a crack about massage oil and period blood myself, but then i remember i made a menstruation joke recently in the comments and decided against so that i dont get repetitive

      1. westernsloper

        I have found in cases of self censorship it is preferable to just go with the flow.

        1. juris imprudent

          Gag, plug, anything to seal the gap, right?

        2. I don’t know, some of these jokes have wings?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      Gotcha. I didn’t interpret it as accusative. I just couldn’t figure out if you were contrasting the two or saying they were the same in the end.

      I’m only on my first cup of coffee.

  72. Rebel Scum

    Reliable Source

    Stelter’s show is called Reliable Sources, and promises viewers that its purpose is to “examine the media world, telling the story behind the story.”

    But that is not the case at all, and we all knew that before this weekend, which is why the far-left Stelter’s ratings (like the rest of far-left CNN) are in freefall.

    Even for Stelter, though, ignoring this story is just beyond the beyond… Shameless cover ups are nothing new with Zucker’s Puppet, but this one is going to be remembered, will be defining.

    What did Stelter talk about this Sunday? Well, he brought on tired old PBS lefty Bill Moyers to scream about how Drumpf is killing democracy and must be impeached. He brought on lefty Anthony Scaramucci to talk about how Drumpf is killing democracy and must be impeached. He brought on a panel of lefties, including al-Baghdadi fanboy Max Boot, to talk about how Sean Hannity and Drumpf are killing democracy and must be impeached.

  73. Enough About Palin

    “and exclusive dater of women under 25 Leonardo DiCaprio.”

    If you could, wouldn’t you?

    1. PieInTheSky

      I honestly don’t know never been in the possition… i think i would want to settle down with someone at a point. Probably before gis current age

    2. Tundra

      At my age? No way in hell.

      1. PieInTheSky

        Not even if your daughter had a really hot 18 year old friend that was open to it?

      2. Sensei

        As 10:00 pm comes around the 25 year old is asking what are the plans for tonight. My thoughts at 10:00 pm involve getting ready to relax and/or go to bed.

    3. R C Dean

      Actually, probably not. Some people learn things as they grow older and actually become more interesting.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        It’s a tough job sleeping your way through 25 year olds to find the interesting ones.

  74. The Bearded Hobbit

    Reminder to all the vets out there. Today is the one day of the year that you are allowed to wear your service ribbons/medals on your civilian clothes.

    Chik fil A dude seeing my “Disfunctional Veteran” hat: “Thanks for your service!”

    Me: “My pleasure!”

  75. PieInTheSky

    #CyberpunkisNow Hong Kong police shooting protesters, multiple videos of shootings in this thread.

    Not going to post video/GIF as NSFW.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hackermaderas/status/1193913095451762688

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      “The reporter is just recapping the shooting incident, and how “police” used pepper spray against anyone who walk close to the patient.”

      It’s worth noting what has become a milestone event in HK culture is barely worth a raised eyebrow in the United States due to its commonness.

      1. leon

        Offical FOP Statment regarding recent shooting in Hong Kong

        It is disheartening to hear the outcries against the recent officer involved shooting in the Honk Kong Region. Time will show and tell us the truth, that the officer was only enforcing and protecting his person security and that of those hard working non violent members of Honk Kong. The outcries coming from Republican Politicians however is consistent with a pattern of anger and hatred geared towards foreigners. The FOP firmly stands with police, regardless of Gender, Creed, Nationality or Color.

        1. “The outcries coming from Republican Politicians”

          I blame Bush.

  76. RAHeinlein

    Apple and Goldman under investigation by NY Dept of Financial Services for gender discrimination. So, apparently spouses should have the same credit limits for independent cards? Also, just watched an interview with NY Dept of Financial Services and they are on a roll with going after companies for algos that create “different outcomes for protected classes” – it’s all those white make programmers!

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/10/wall-street-regulator-probes-goldman-over-allegations-of-sexist-credit-decisions-at-apple-card.html

    1. Rhywun

      The Exxon shakedown is failing so why not aim higher this time.

    2. Jarflax

      So which one is suffering the harm? The higher limit cardholder or the lower?

    3. R C Dean

      going after companies for algos that create “different outcomes for protected classes”

      Now do social media “offensive content” algorithms.

  77. PieInTheSky

    Oxy-Acetylene Explosions at 330 000 fps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9XandILnvk

  78. creech

    Last night on 60 minutes, Lesley Stahl asked Morgan Stanley’s Dimon why CEO salaries are so absurd, his being $31 million last year. Dimon should have turned the tables on her: “Why is your salary $1.8 million? Don’t you think we could find plenty of very excellent journalists who would do your job for half that?” It is time to fight back instead of deferring to these envious, power hungry turds in the media.

    1. RAHeinlein

      JP Morgan Chase. Squawk suggested Jamie should have asked Leslie Stahl whether she should be paid 100 times the people who actually wrote the questions she read.

      1. leon

        It would have been great.

        Of course we would hear how this is just because TRUMP! has fostered an environment hostile to journalists.

    2. Urthona

      Even if he did ask her that it would never air. Those interviews are heavily edited to make the interviewers look smart.

    3. R C Dean

      “You know what’s really crazy? What NFL quarterbacks get paid. These guys are playing a game. Its entertainment. Yet they get 40, 50, hell, 80 million dollar compensation packages. Guaranteed! I’d kill for a deal like that.”

      1. leon

        And that’s how we get Gladiators.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        *cue opening scene of The Last Boy Scout*

    4. juris imprudent

      That was exactly my take too. Except of course had he done that the footage would’ve (or was) left on the cutting room floor (gods, that’s an old reference).

  79. How is it that people need instruction?

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/harvard-hosts-anal-sex-101-oral-sex-101-and-fatphobia-workshops/

    Though, given the context of the other two, is the “fatphobia” workshop designed to teach people how to hate fatties?

    1. leon

      I’m skeptical anyway. They say those who can’t – teach.

    2. R C Dean

      I regularly ask “Are we pro- or anti-?” when we roll out “sexual harassment training workshops” and the like.

  80. wdalasio

    I demand an elaboration of “national interest”.

    Meh. National interest is a turn of phrase with enough established meaning to have some implications beyond “whatever we feel like”. Just its recognition implies that there are things and fights outside of the bounds of our interests. Yeah, it’s not principled non-intervention. But, it’s still so far out of the uniparty “all war all the time” consensus that debating about it is still a moot point. If our political class were willing to restrict themselves to just the foreign adventurism that could could be justified in terms of realpolitik, we’d still be looking at a massive reduction of our commitment of blood and treasure around the world.

    1. R C Dean

      Yeah, it’s not principled non-intervention.

      “We don’t intervene unless its in our interest to do so” is a principle.

  81. PieInTheSky

    I sometimes don’t get the scheduling on glibertarians…

    1. R C Dean

      Since you’re on metric time, I imagine its not easy.

  82. Mainer

    To think there was a time New Zealand was on the short list of countries to escape to. Welp, I guess St. Ronnie was right, this country is the last stand for freedom. If the lights go out here, it’s game over.

    1. R C Dean

      If the lights go out here, it’s game over.

      Well, aren’t you the optimist.

  83. The Late P Brooks

    is the “fatphobia” workshop designed to teach people how to hate fatties?

    It comes naturally to me. I never needed any coaching.

  84. The Late P Brooks

    To think there was a time New Zealand was on the short list of countries to escape to. Welp, I guess St. Ronnie was right, this country is the last stand for freedom. If the lights go out here, it’s game over.

    New Zealand had an economic miracle of their own, in the ’80s. i assume they have abandoned those reforms in favor of enlightened guidance by government Top Men.

  85. Sensei

    Why more than 168,000 Valentine’s day text messages arrived in November

    From the comments:
    “This isn’t the only thing left from Valentine’s Day that comes back to surprise you nine months later.”