Morning Generic Links

About what these links are like…

Sorry…not really feeling it this morning. So there will be a lack of witty banter, and you will have to supply the music links. Just pretend you are in a 1980s grocery store that stocks naught but Generics:

  1. Choo-hoo causes trouble in EU, not just California.
  2. “But what damage might he have caused my horses?” Replaying a Tale of Two Cities in the UK?
  3. HAHAHAHA. AAF dodges a bullet.

Do try and stay away from being banned today, mkay?

Comments

817 responses to “Morning Generic Links”

  1. Slammer

    I seem to recall a generic Beer

    1. Nephilium

      I remember seeing it on the shelf at a SuperK back in the 90’s. But the real question, was it made with corn or rice? That’s a big deal now.

      1. In the 90s? Corn syrup.

      1. straffinrun

        Tall Cans! already? Alright…

        1. Yusef and Tres bait.

          Wait, I do have some .5L Krombacher cans at home. Guess I am in the TALL CANS club now!

    2. Not Adahn

      Yup. And there was generic “Lite Beer.”

        1. Nephilium

          If that’s not going to turn into a picture of a water bottle/can, I am disappoint.

          1. Sorry, not sorry.

        2. straffinrun

          Haven’t seen cans that big since I clicked on Mrs. Splosive’s link.

          1. They’re only twelve ounce cans. Wait, is the standard Japanese can smaller than 12 oz?

          2. Slammer

            Cans and weiners are smaller in Japan is what they say

          3. straffinrun

            Dunno in oz, but the standard Japanese can is flat.

          4. They outlawed carbonation too? Was it some sort of Green policy?

          5. Not Adahn

            -2 daikon thighs

          6. straffinrun

            Funny you know that, NA.

          7. Not Adahn

            I took a six-week Japanese class taught by a nun. I have been told that the little vocabulary I have is more suited to a child. I think she taught me that expression. But it might have been from one of either kenpo or kendo classes when someone was complaining about how painful seiza is for those of us that grew up with chairs.

          8. So what does the expression mean?

          9. straffinrun

            Daikon radish. Means the gal has thick legs.

          10. Mojeaux

            @Not Adahn

            You took kenpo? What strain?

          11. Not Adahn

            Shorin-ryu

          12. blackjack

            Pixelated?

          13. Gustave Lytton

            350ml. But there’s also a stubby can size too.

          14. straffinrun

            Those tiny cans make my hands look hyuuuge.

          15. Gustave Lytton

            What I like is those Japanese ones still have the small openings, not the gaping wide mouths in the US.

          16. Jarflax

            Pedo

          17. WTF

            JAPANESE ONES NOT KNOW STEVE SMITH!!

          18. R C Dean

            Now that’s how you euphemism.

          19. hayeksplosives

            *Hi five*

        3. Not Adahn

          Now that is fascinating. Both look like they are steel cans, but the one with the multiple fonts (why are they spending money on such frivolity?) has the old-style pull tab. The one on the right would have to have been and extremely limited production run.

      1. ElspethFlashman

        My dad drank it sometimes.

        1. Bobarian LMD

          I drank this occasionally in HS.

          The (Vons or Albertson?) version I remember was a canned by the same company that made Pearl. It was pretty bad, but not as bad as Meister Brau or Black Label.

          Th HS go-to beer was Lucky Lager, because they had puzzles under the bottle caps.

    3. My FiL used to buy generic beer.

      And when he came over to my house, he would rummage through the fridge for a beer or grab a bottle of booze and pour himself a large stiff drink.

      Me: Ah, you know that fifth cost me $50

      Him: …

      1. Jarflax

        The Scots are a thrifty bunch.

    4. MikeS

      Here’s the *current years*’s version of generic beer:

      Good Ass Beer

    5. Gustave Lytton

      I remember Beer beer, but not as pictured above

      1. I thought they made that stuff up for flicks like “Repo Man” – didn’t know they legit sold it that way.

        1. BakedPenguin

          I loved the “Food” cans in Repo Man.

          “Put it on a plate, son, you’ll enjoy it more.”

          “Can’t get any better than this, Mom.”

  2. Breet Pharara

    “HAHAHAHA. AAF dodges a bullet.”

    I know you’re being snarky, but honestly Kap would have gotten at least a few more eyes on that league, which is what they need. I am sick of hearing about him though. He decided to piss off a huge chunk of the customer base and then bitches that his employer doesn’t want him to do that anymore. What an idiot.

    1. Not $20M worth of eyes. He is old, out of game shape and hasn’t throw a pass in a game in years.

      1. Certified Public Asshat

        No one in the AAF has really played in years.

        1. They have a lot of just finished college kids, UFAs and just have been cuts.

          1. Bobarian LMD

            This will be what NFL Europe was, except people will probably watch it.

      2. invisible finger

        He wouldn’t get $20M if he was in the best shape of his life and had no PR baggage. Guy seems to be off his meds.

        1. ChipsnSalsa

          Well if you don’t really want to play, but want act like you want to. Make crazy demands, when they say no. You throw your hands up and say “I tried!”

          1. hayeksplosives

            I think this is accurate.

            Besides, wasn’t his performance already prettt weak the last year before the Kneel?

          2. Yes it was, and that’s what really pisses me off about all this hero promotion. Colin Kaepernick was riding the bench when he suddenly decided to take a brave stand for civil rights. He was heading straight towards being a perpetual back-up or placeholder, something like an RG3 or a Sam Bradford. As I recall the 49ers were about to cut him when he suddenly propelled himself into an important national conversation about race…kinda like someone in Chicago recently, come to think of it…

          3. Brochettaward

            I mean, there’s also the part where he was so dumb he turned down a trade and a paycut from the Broncos. He was just so damn sure someone else would give him more.

        2. cyto

          He has Mark Gerragos representing him, running around shilling the conspiracy story to anyone who will put him on the air. They are working the public opinion angle really hard, hoping for a big settlement with the NFL.

          I don’t see how it could happen, since he was already deep on the bench before any of this started. And it isn’t like he got benched for the next Tom Brady.

          They already managed to parlay that fame into a fat Nike contract. This is just another publicity angle. They wouldn’t have wanted him to actually play – it would ruin the “he’s easily one of the 15 best quarterbacks” angle. He could have gone to Canada at any point and tried to make it. But flopping on a small stage would wreck his case.

        3. Festus

          He could come up here and pay for one of the Roughrider teams.

          1. Hamilton or GTFO.

          2. WTF

            But Hamilton tickets are expensive and nearly impossible to get.

          3. invisible finger

            There should be a gaze narrowing here.

          4. Rufus the Monocled

            Masoli beat out Manziel for a job. And it wasn’t close.

            I wonder if Kaepernick could play in the CFL with his style. You have to be pretty accurate with those three downs thing.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      Well now you absolutely know what Kap is after. And it’s not playing football.

    3. Slammer

      Kap wouldn’t have dodged a bullet with Che in Cuba

  3. “But what damage might he have caused my horses?” Replaying a Tale of Two Cities in the UK?

    To be fair, maybe they can get the other driver treated at a real hospital, wince the NHS treatment for a broken wrist is “leave them on a waiting list until the bones knit on their own”

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder

    LOL, Kaepernick wants $20M to be a mediocre QB with a PR problem in a tiny league.

    Good luck with that.

    1. hate_speech

      Maybe it was a ‘stop bothering me’ quote?

      Either way, this works out best for everyone. He can continue to focus on his twitter profile and hopefully soon, we won’t ever see him in the news again.

  5. Pat

    In keeping with the generic theme, this is the official music link

    1. See, I knew the commentariat would cover the music.

      1. A commentariat cover band you say?

        Hrmm…

    2. invisible finger

      Could have at least gone with this.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7RGMndpadw

      1. Festus

        That was inspired!

    3. juris imprudent

      I was thinking more like this.

  6. leon

    First he bans someone. Now no banjos for morning links. Wake up sheeple!! The glibe have been taken over by the Swiss!!

    1. You lost me at ‘sheeple’.

      1. Not Adahn

        Unoriginal, but mandatory

        1. leon

          You don’t know how unoriginal 😉

          1. Not Adahn

            Swiss has the secret ultra-high-speed connection to the glibserver room.

          2. Wait, it’s hosted from Switzy’s bathroom?

          3. leon

            The HTTP calls are coming from inside your house!!

          4. Gustave Lytton

            +1 GET

    2. HEY?! How many time do you have to be warned about that?!!!

      https://xkcd.com/1013/

    3. Slammer

      No banjos. But there was a banFOS

      1. *adds Slammer to the list*

    4. I didn’t ban anyone. TPTB have to agree completely to do that. And only SP wields the mighty BANHAMMER…it is kind of like Mjölnir.

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        Are there TPS reports that need to be filled out?

        1. cyto

          Pbbt. You really think these guys are capable of putting a cover sheet on a report?

          1. Yeah….cyto. I’m going to need you to come in this weekend and polish catbutts. Yeah, that’d be great.

          2. cyto

            It’s funny because we’ve all seen the same movie….

          3. Gustave Lytton

            Great. Now Switzy is stuck as Gary Cole in my mind’s eye. I’m picturing Lumbergh giving narrowed gazes with a cup of coffee.

      2. Nephilium

        So SP is Beta Ray Bill? Or more like Jane Foster?

      3. R C Dean

        I envisioned the banhammer more along these lines:

        https://youtu.be/LkapAizpXw4

        Recycled from banhammer post, because I got there late.

      4. Scruffy Nerfherder

        TPTB = The Prole Troll Board?

        1. WTF

          The Power That Bans!

          1. Huh…I kind of like that one.

          2. Jarflax

            I assumed it was tripeptide bonds

      5. Rebel Scum

        BANHAMMER

        Kinky.

    1. Atanarjuat

      On first glance, I thought his username was Rick Licks Pricks.

    1. Pat

      11>31>17>24

        1. That girl will have a hell of a time when she’s 60. Good thing we get to look at her when she’s 20.

  7. cyto

    Remember the “Vast, Right-Wing Conspiracy”?

    Well, here’s some evidence of a cabal of a different bent:

    ABC news ran a ton of stories about racists in MAGA hats shouting “this is MAGA country” while beating a gay black actor from TV, including use of a noose and bleach. They even have a long form sympathetic interview with the actor as he “speaks out for the first time”.

    But they didn’t cover the story when their own affiliate has multiple sources within the Chicago PD saying it might be a hoax. Surprising, given that this is an ABC affiliate.

    But that’s not the part I’m talking about.

    This morning the ABC News website has Trump threatening to declare an emergency as their number one story. The number two story? Some random DUI suspect yells racist stuff while getting arrested.

    Yup. That’s the second biggest story nationally this morning. Some random drunk yells something while getting arrested.

    Go ahead and explain how this is anything other than propaganda that is designed to divide the country on racial lines. They have a story that fits a real narrative – one of their biggest stories of the last week or so is potentially yet another hoax racist attack – but they ignore it and scour the nation to find anything with a “white people are racist” angle that they can substitute.

    This is a pretty deep dig – finding some random DUI from a week ago to promote to national prominence. There really isn’t anything beyond “Trump is a tyrant who is going to violate the constitution” that is more important. Trump #1, racist rant by drunk getting arrested #2.

    Yeah…… vast right wing conspiracy…..

    1. Trust, once lost, cannot easily be regained.

      I’d say that most of the news media didn’t just abuse the public trust, they shot it in the head, burned it and salted the earth so it can never again grow back.

      1. Rufus the Monocled

        I was thinking exactly that last night. They lost the plot. Do they know? When you look at those anchors all pretty and suave, are they aware people are onto to their shtick and just play along? Either way, how can they regain any trust lost at this point? Judging by that idiotic WaPo ad, they seem to not care and are doubling down.

        You WILL submit. The idea of if journalism disappears, so to democracy is arrogant and absurd.

    2. invisible finger

      Violent attackers might yell lots of somewhat common words that sorta sound like “MAGA”. “Maga” is probably the least common.

      1. What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

      2. leon

        Dis is Manga country!

      3. Slammer

        Maybe those Nazi Nigerians actually yelled Dis is faggot country

      4. Rhywun

        MAGA, please.

    3. straffinrun

      Somebody had a few drinks after getting banhammered last night.

      1. cyto

        Guffaw…

        Wow, talk about a location joke. That’s really, really local.

      2. commodious spittoon

        I just assumed it was Mel Gibson again.

    4. Brochettaward

      The whole Smollett thing is like a really shitty episode of Law and Order. It’s so trite that even Dick Wolf wouldn’t touch it.

      1. Pecan Sandy

        I dunno. They did a gamergate episode that was so cringy it ended up being hilarious.

        1. The path that show has traveled is amazing. In one of the early episodes, Sam Waterson has a scene with a black lawyer where he tells her (paraphrasing) that if she wanted to know why racism was a problem she should look in the mirror.

    5. Rebel Scum

      Of course a random, racist drunk is indicative of all MAGA voters, but a Bernie-bro shooting up a Republican baseball practice is – wait – what was I talking about?

    1. leon

      Business owners need to learn to sit down and shut up. They only serve to be tax cattle./ Krugabee

    2. Certified Public Asshat

      Phillip Rivers?

      1. hayeksplosives

        HAH! Awesome.

    3. Rhywun

      Aww, they’ll have to make do with the existing hypergentrification of the neighborhood that was rolling along just fine before Amazon came along. Poor dears.

    4. A Leap at the Wheel

      My dad, the practicing catholic who didn’t ever want to have any kids? (PS my kids have enough aunts and uncles that I don’t bother buying them Christmas presents)

    5. robc

      They didn’t think about the people who voted them in

      So this will change your voting behavior how?

      1. WTF

        They shall curse the dastardly Republicans all the more the next time they vote for the Democrats.

    6. Gustave Lytton

      Dugout Doug?

    7. Rebel Scum

      You know who else hated pulling out?

      Me?

    8. The answer is Antonio Cromartie.

  8. The Late P Brooks

    Speaking of Aesop’s Fables, they were talking about Long Island City HQ2, and how it vanished in a puff of acrid smoke, on the news this morning.

    Also saw a fascinating piece about the People’s Justice Collective’s “victory” over Amazon in Business Insider yesterday.

    Dog in the Manger 1
    Amazon 0

    1. Not Adahn

      The Queens rep was on the radio saying with theatrical scorn in his voice (paraphrased from memory) “Amazon thinks they can dictate terms to the government of New York. Well, not yet.”

        1. Not Adahn

          Amazon probably has to increase the numbers of armed troops they have first.

          1. Well, with the wind down in the middle east, there are plenty of mercenaries looking for work.

          2. Not Adahn

            Now I’m picturing former Xe employees hanging out at the in-house latte and kale bar.

          3. Not Adahn

            Oh, if you’re still thinking about a NY compliant scary black rifle, the Fightlite SCR is a lower for an AR that makes it look non-threatening.

          4. I’ll try to remember to check out the link when I’m not at work. (Proxy policies, co-workers, etc)

            Thank you.

          5. Democratic Hitler

            Prime Force ™

          6. A Leap at the Wheel

            Sounds like a cross between Full Metal Panic and Escape from New York. I would watch that show.

      1. invisible finger

        Wonder if NYC is using Amazon Web Services.

        1. leon

          There’s a chrome plugin that you can use to stop any traffic that goes to something hosted on AWS.

    2. It’s a total Scooby Doo mystery why NY is hemorrhaging residents like a slit wrist.

        1. I like it insofar as the joke is concerned.

          I just wish they’d matched the fonts better.

  9. Festus

    Aw…. Swissy is feeling some post-coital tristesse after dropping the hammer. Not to worry, happens to the best of us (so long as there was no crying, that’s unforgivable).

    1. AHEM, I don’t have the authority or power to ban anyone. We are an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We have a rotating…

      1. Festus

        I know this, I was just twisting yer tail.

    2. Brochettaward

      What if you cry after you masturbate? Asking for a friend.

      1. +1 Tear-Filled Party of One

      2. Tell your friend that is not what ‘rubbing alcohol’ is for, and to get those open sores treated.

      3. If it’s at the end of Old Yeller or a funeral, that’s ok.

        1. MikeS

          I’m not the only one who masturbates at funerals?!

          1. Brochettaward

            Really, when you get down to the brass tax of it all, aren’t all funerals really just exercises in masturbation?

      4. Festus

        If done in complete and utter privacy within a dark space while listening to Morrisey it’s totes fine.

  10. Nephilium

    Alcohol related news from Texas. Bars are using security cameras to protect themselves from bogus overserving laws.

  11. The Late P Brooks

    only SP wields the mighty BANHAMMER…it is kind of like Mjölnir.

    With great power comes great responsibility.

    1. straffinrun

      What do you want me to do? Go there and raise old Glory there and cause an international incident?

      1. “raise old Glory there and cause an international incident”

        Whether you mean that literally or euphemistically I think you’re good either way.

      2. Sensei

        I read the the dead thread last night – most importantly I want to know your eggplant joke that got your wife in trouble.

        I love dad gags. As gaijin trying to speak Japanese I can usually get an honest laugh out of them that a native speaker would be greeted with “samui”.

        However, one thing I have been absolutely unable to explain to my Japanese friends is American sarcasm. And given how indirect it can be I would think that British wit would be even harder for them grasp.

        1. straffinrun

          Ugh. Ok. Before I took a bite of the eggplant, I said loudly, “Itadakinasu”.

          1. Sensei

            Samui!

          2. straffinrun

            It works with pears, too.

          3. Sensei

            Yes, yes it does…

        2. invisible finger

          “I have been absolutely unable to explain to my Japanese friends is American sarcasm. ”

          Maybe they’re just being sarcastic?

          1. Sensei

            They honestly just don’t get it.

            Much the same way that insults in Japanese work by changing either the social status of the insulting person or the person being insulted.

            Any time I ask my friends if I’m correctly making anything more than a 100% obvious (hypothetical) insult in Japanese I always fail.

          2. invisible finger

            “They honestly just don’t get it. ”

            I think that was the reason for the second bomb.

          3. Tejicano

            Japanese use the word for “irony” when they are talking about sarcasm because the concept really doesn’t exist in Japanese culture.

          4. Sensei

            YES! So much this. Sometimes irony and sarcasm intersect, but not always.

            Japanese people usually can understand the intersection, but straight out sarcasm is really tough to explain.

        3. Tejicano

          I have a number of my original puns in Japanese – a couple that many Japanese actually think are funny. I tend to trot one or two of them out when somebody in a social setting insists on dumbing down their Japanese for me – kinda show that I actually do know the language.

      3. You call it Old Glory too? Hmm.

  12. The Late P Brooks

    The whole Smollett thing is like a really shitty episode of Law and Order. It’s so trite that even Dick Wolf wouldn’t touch it.

    It wouldn’t even get greenlighted as an After School Special. The Boy Who Cried MAGA.

  13. How Can I Help My Guy, Um, Perform?
    He doesn’t like Viagra, so I need to take matters into my own hands.

    I’m getting divorced from my second husband and remain friendly with my first. While babysitting my granddaughter and having my ex over for dinner, the subject of getting naked came up. He knows how miserable I am, and his wife has lived several states away for years. Both of us could seriously use a good roll in the hay. Fast-forward to a couple nights later when we tried. Let’s say Mr. Johnson did not show up for work. I was very understanding: He is of the age where that could happen. I finally convinced him to get some little blue pills to see what comes up, so to speak.

    What I want to know is what can I do to help wake things up, if you will? He is very afraid that the pills won’t work.

    1. Be hot.

      Don’t be not hot.

      1. invisible finger

        Grandmother. Guessing not Susanna Hoffs.

    2. Brochettaward

      …and his wife has lived several states away for years

      I mean, like…what? Is she sure he’s not like that kid in high school with the Canadian girlfriend?

      He is very afraid that the pills won’t work.

      If pills won’t do it, that probably means he finds you fucking disgusting. But it’s still pussy so…

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Or maybe Mr Johnson remembers what Ms Letter Writer was/is, even if Mr Ex Letter Writer doesn’t.

    3. Pat

      Eat a popsicle first, save the stick, and bring some scotch tape.

      1. Festus

        “You are correct, Sir!”

    4. invisible finger

      “He is of the age where that could happen”

      106?

      1. Festus

        Black feller humble-brag.

    5. invisible finger

      “having my ex over for dinner”

      I think I found the problem.

      1. Festus

        I maintained a pretty good relationship with my ex but there were certainly times where we might have fallen back into some old bad habits. I’d just bail. It didn’t work after years of effort, why would scratching that itch work now?

    6. Certified Public Asshat

      He is very afraid that the pills won’t work.

      He doesn’t like Viagra, so I need to take matters into my own hands.

      That’s not what it says at all.

    7. ZARDOZ

      ZARDOZ SPEAKS TO YOU, HIS ADVICE QUESTION POSTING CHOSEN ONE. NO! THE PENIS IS EVIL. LET IT REMAIN UNABLE TO SHOOT SEEDS THAT CREATE NEW LIFE. OH, AND MAYBE SPEND A LITTLE TIME ON A TREADMILL OR SOMETHING. ZARDOZ HAS SPOKEN.

  14. Evan from Evansville

    I awoke at an hour more suited for bed time. The chaste morn is dull, dreary and useless.

    But my task board is loaded and I plan on making some money before I see Peter Jackson’s docu on WWI (in IMAX!) in the afternoon.

    I can’t wait until I have my own place again. I can’t imagine cultural or individual norms that would deem your own private living space to be a luxury. This is where I do my things. It is not a place for you to do your things.

    Onwards. Upwards.

    1. Brochettaward

      This is where I do my things. It is not a place for you to do your things.

      Every time you post, I just keep thinking…this is the guy who says he doesn’t wash his hands. Your space is totally your space.

      1. Evan from Evansville

        Washing hands is harmful to yourself and the species.

        Enjoy your decline.

        1. I dunno – I kind of appreciate it in, say, a physician or a chef.

          1. MikeS

            …or a hooker prostitute.

        2. Spudalicious

          Pete Hegseth and Evan are the same person?

    2. Pat

      I can’t imagine cultural or individual norms that would deem your own private living space to be a luxury. This is where I do my things. It is not a place for you to do your things.

      Very unmutual behaviour there, sir.

    3. Chipwooder

      The movie lived up to its reputation. Incredibly moving.

  15. Valentine’s Day is only 365 days away (2020 being a leap year)!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-6IKFNjXAo

    1. Sweet, that means this year’s candies are on sale… dammit I’m on a diet.

    2. Umm… also, you may want to note that Feb 29th, 2020 occurs after the next Valentine’s day.

      1. I’m sick of your lies!

        1. Democratic Hitler

          Oh you better believe that’s a banning.

          1. Paddling the school canoe?

  16. ::salutes::

    The last survivor of the Great Escape Airman Richard Churchill has died aged 99

    Dick was among the 76 who crawled through tunnels in March 1944 in a bid for freedom.

    Only three escaped while 50 were rounded up and shot on Hitler’s direct orders.

    Dick, who adopted the identity of a Romanian and spent two nights on the run from 50,000 German policemen, thousands of members of the Hitler Youth and elite squads of the SS.

    He and comrade Bob Nelson, who pretended to be Swedish, were found by farmers cowering in a barn.

    They were the 50th and 51st of the 76 Allied airmen to escape from the high-security camp in the German province of Lower Silesia, 100 miles south-east of Berlin.

    1. Raphael

      RIP to that beautiful man, hope he’s with his old airmen in the great skies above. *salutes*

    2. robc

      76

      Only three escaped while 50 were rounded up

      So the other 23 were recaptured but not executed?

      1. Yes.

        But seriously, you didn’t think even the Nazis managed to shoot Steve McQueen, did you?

        1. Somebody should have given Ali McGraw a gun.

  17. Pat

    Researchers create ‘malicious’ writing AI

    A team of researchers who have built an artificially-intelligent writer say they are withholding the technology as it might be used for “malicious” purposes.

    OpenAI, based in San Francisco, is a research institute backed by Silicon Valley luminaries including Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.

    It shared some new research on using machine learning to create a system capable of producing natural language, but in doing so the team expressed concern the tool could be used to mass-produce convincing fake news.

    Which, to put it another way, is of course also an admission that what its system puts out there is unreliable, made-up rubbish. Still, when it works well, the results are impressively realistic in tone – which is why I’ve shared a sample of it below.

    1. We told Journalists to Learn To Code, now look what they’ve wrought!

          1. Brochettaward

            PENIS

        1. Raphael

          Local Area Network? Damn bois, we’re getting closer every time. I know we can do it right one day.

        2. straffinrun

          E (see if we get it right this time)

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            And everyone here thought the cheerleading squad were a bunch of ding-dongs.

            Harder than it looks, huh?

        3. Not Adahn

          E

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            E?

          2. I’m the great and powerful Silent E!

            /Morgan Freeman

          3. Bobarian LMD

            The Glibertariate is, apparently, not a better, faster, monkey?

    2. Rhywun

      the tool could be used to mass-produce convincing fake news

      But enough about journalism school.

    3. A Leap at the Wheel

      >withholding the technology as it might be used for “malicious” purposes.

      And they’ll rake in the funding from fucking idiots over this vaporware, I’m willing to bet.

    4. Bobarian LMD

      So… basically, they’ve built a better, faster monkey with a type-writer?

      “To be or not to eb…”

  18. LJW

    War Crime?

    An update on my previously mentioned German relative who fought and died in WWI. He may or may not have partaken in what may or may not have been a war crime at the time. On August 20th his regiment the 8th Bavarian Reserve was moving through Dalhain, France. The citizens provided them with water, however French soldiers provided them with gun fire from attics and second story windows. So the 8th encircled the village and bombarded the city with artillery. Apparently the citizens of the town are still pissed about it, given the picture on the town’s Wikipedia page is from the aftermath of shelling on that day. It’s unclear if that destruction in the picture was a result of the encirclement or of other fighting.

    Side note I’ve found a lot of great material on the battles the 6th army partook in. I’m currently reading through “The First Battle of World War I Alsace Lorraine” by Karl Deuringer. He breaks down the battle to the micro level. That’s where I found the info above.

    1. Festus

      I am not surprised. Everybody thinks that Canadians are polite and fair-minded but our troops had a vicious reputation in both wars regarding treatment of prisoners that fell into their hands. I can believe it, I’ve been to many a pit party in my youth. Rural Canadians are not to be fucked with.

      1. WTF

        Everybody thinks that Canadians are polite and fair-minded…

        “Everybody” must have never seen a hockey game.

        1. Festus

          “Everybody” seems to believe that that shit stays on the ice.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        My national guard battalion’s predecessor regiment was nicknamed “Bloody Butchers” by the Japanese.

      3. Rufus the Monocled

        My BIL’s father fought in WWII for Italy. He said the Americans were wonderful soldiers. When asked about Canadians he invoked the ‘if you have nothing good to say’ adage.

        It was interesting.

        1. Tundra

          LOL

          “It felt very natural. They call it milking the prostate.”

          1. Festus

            Those fuckers are not far off of what I grew up with. Fucken AC/DC…

        2. MikeS

          LOL. I loves me some Leterkennys

    2. creech

      You know who else served in a Bavarian Reserve Regiment?

      1. R C Dean

        Drumpf?

      2. Tres Cool

        Snyder’s of Hanover ?

  19. Trump Is Making ‘Socialism’ Sound Pretty Good
    And in any case, Democrats are not planning to seize the means of production anytime soon.

    Making the ground even less fertile for the “socialist” charge is the fact of the 2008 recession, which produced worsening views of capitalism, especially among young Americans, who showed growing receptivity to views such as “basic health insurance is a right for all people” and “basic necessities, such as food and shelter, are a right that the government should provide to those unable to afford them.” In truth, these ideas fit well into the modern history of capitalist governance. But the politics of the past 10 years have given them a left-wing tinge.

    Specifically, in their vehement opposition to the Obama administration, conservatives narrowed “socialism” down to virtually any attempt to intervene in the economy on behalf of the broad public. The effort to save the American car industry? Socialist. Regulated markets to purchase health insurance? Socialist. Market-based measures for reducing carbon emissions? Also socialist.

    This aggressive labeling coincided with a rise in favorable attitudes toward socialism among Democrats. In 2010, according to Gallup, 53 percent said they had a positive view of socialism. In 2016, it was 58 percent. Some of this is the effect of Bernie Sanders’s presidential campaign, which brought “socialism” back into mainstream political conversation. But conservative demonization of liberal Democratic policies as socialist played a major part as well.

    1. Making it sound good to whom? Campus activists and those who read the NYT opinion section are not representative of the nation as a whole.

      1. Raphael

        Those Democrat policies are socialist though. Is telling the truth demonizing?

          1. Festus

            Yertle’s response was pretty epic. “Let’s put it to a vote!”

          2. Raphael

            I shake my damn head once more.

      2. Slammer

        When you ask many of those kids who are open to socialism if they’re willing to pay more to make it happen they balk

        1. Nephilium

          Of course, like it says in the Communist Manifesto:

          From others according to their ability, to me according to my need

          Or something like that, it’s like a hundred years old.

        2. B.P.

          They don’t have anything to pay. They’ll be net takers until they get a little older, and then…

    2. creech

      Had conservatives called these ideas “fascist” it wouldn’t have been demonization at all.

    3. Rhywun

      capitalist governance

      *facepalm*

    4. Rufus the Monocled

      These retard asshole opinionists in these shitty papers. You would think they would have learned having sided with Nazis and commies back in the day.

      But nope.

      Fucken nauseating how evil they are with their literary caca.

    5. R C Dean

      See, I would have said that our nouveau democratic (and Democrat) socialists are making Trump sound pretty good.

    6. Rebel Scum

      Specifically, in their vehement opposition to the Obama administration, conservatives narrowed “socialism” down to virtually any attempt to intervene in the economy on behalf of the broad public. The effort to save the American car industry? Socialist. Regulated markets to purchase health insurance? Socialist. Market-based measures for reducing carbon emissions? Also socialist.

      Actually those types of market interventions are more fascistic in nature.

  20. Atanarjuat

    Libertarian moment?

    Not sure if y’all saw this: https://mises.org/wire/uk-government’s-secret-plan-slash-taxes-after-no-deal-brexit

    With Mrs May’s only hope being a renegotiation of her deal in time for a repeat vote before the 29th March Brexit deadline, and the EU adamantly refusing to return to the negotiating table, it is easy to see why a no-deal Brexit is now so widely regarded as the most probable outcome.

    It was to this backdrop that the British press recently began reporting on the development of ‘Project After’, which one Whitehall figure described as “basically a Doomsday list of economic levers we could pull” in the event of a no-deal Brexit. This ‘secret plan’, as it has ironically been called throughout its extensive media coverage, is supposed to be considering the viability of numerous different policy directions intended to offset the economic armageddon which mainstream pundits so widely expect to result from a no-deal Brexit. These possible policies include cuts to Britain’s corporation tax, value added tax (VAT), and even cutting all of Britain’s tariffs to zero .

    1. While I doubt May would go along with it, Punishing the EU by flourishing thanks to direct repudiation of their policies would be glorious.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Any stock market gurus have any Dow Jones predictions if the no deal happens?

      1. robc

        short term or long term?

        Long term, invest in British stocks, especially if they go with the 0 tariff plan.

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        I predict that over twenty years, it will be provide between a 4% and 10% rate of return.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          Short term in the toilet though or no or little effect?

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            The only people that should care about that answer are people with a professional interest in it. People with a professional interest in it don’t (or shouldn’t) need rando’s on the internet providing their uninformed guess.

            Playing the market short term is a fool errand. If you want to gamble, there are way more entertaining ways to do it. If you want to flush your money down the toilet, and least a hooker will jerky you off.

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I’m well aware that trying to predict short term peaks and valleys is a crap shoot and that accepting financial advice from people on the internet is crazy. I’m just curious as to the short-term implications if anyone has any insight, that’s all.

          3. I have some land in Florida Michigan I can sell you.

          4. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I’ll take it! If I send you my checking account number can you hold it for me?

          5. R C Dean

            Short-term, its uncertainty, the market hates uncertainty, so it will be bearish.

          6. Fourscore

            “Playing the market”

            I don’t pretend to play, I’m serious but absolutely long term in mutual funds. Watching the recent ups and downs was a little disconcerting but I’ve ridden the turmoil out without worrying. The prospectus always is honest up front about past and future performance.

  21. Reading yesterday about the magic HPV cure and how now, finally, all bets are off and sexual utopia can begin I began thinking of how long it will be until the next STD comes along to ruin everything.

    https://freebeacon.com/columns/what-to-do-about-the-rebirth-of-socialism/

    It’s like socialism. You think it’s gone for good and somehow it crawls back from the muck to ruin more lives.

    1. Pat

      Ironically, as we’re reaching cures on HPV and HIV the good old fashioned clap is becoming resistant to every extant antibiotic.

    2. Tonio

      Antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea is scary as fuck. Antibiotic-resistance in general.

      1. STEVE SMITH RESISTANT ALSO SCARY FUCK.

        1. NOTHING STEVE SMITH RESISTANT!

          1. Bobarian LMD

            RESISTANCE JUST THE THING TO GET GET STEVE MOTOR HUMMING.

  22. Stinky Wizzleteats

    This Smollett thing is kind of depressing even though I called it fairly accurately. All you have to do is assume the absolute worst motivations imaginable in people you don’t know and you’ll be right way more often than not.

    1. What’s your angle?

      1. straffinrun

        Here’s mine. He got punched by his BF at the bar and fell into a self pity spiral and came up with this idiotic idea to claim he was attacked. Not really Munchhausen’s, more like Magahausen’s.

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          I’d say he had his associates muss him up a bit so he could concoct a sympathetic story to get his name out there and get roles. If it worked out right he’d be the brave downtrodden hero that fought back against racist thugs. Who wouldn’t want to give a part to that guy?

          1. Festus

            Sadly, I think you are on target.

          2. B.P.

            His associates would need to continue to shut up, though, which is a hard thing to do.

    2. Brochettaward

      in people you don’t know

      Frankly, you don’t have to stop with people you know.

  23. 114 Years After Her Birth, Ayn Rand’s Supporters Think Russia Is Ready for Her Ideas

    Anastasia Grigorovskaya, a literature professor at the Tyumen State University, says Rand continues to be sidelined in her native country as a result.

    “There are many stereotypes in Russia about her, like that her ideas are social Darwinist or fascist,” she says.

    “Russia does not remember Ayn Rand. We need to bring her back.”

    Now, after 20 years of rule under President Vladimir Putin, that moment might have arrived, as many young Russians turn to ideas like libertarianism and authors like Rand in their search for political alternatives.

    Andrei Shalnev, the organizer of Saturday’s event, says that the writer’s popularity, especially among the youth, has exploded in the years since the first Ayn Rand birthday conference was held in St. Petersburg in 2014. In fact, the 30-year-old organizer, who wears a trim beard and spectacles, is among the oldest figures in the conference hall.

    1. Raphael

      Либертарианский момент?

    2. RUSSIAN COLLUSION!!!!

    3. ChipsnSalsa

      They probably don’t have enough paper.

    4. Raphael

      Это Либертарианский момент?

    5. Raphael

      Best of luck to those Ruskies, may they have their glorious Libertarian Moment.

    6. Pat

      Didn’t seem like there was any love lost on her end either.

    7. Scruffy Nerfherder

      like that her ideas are social Darwinist or fascist

      Fascist, it goes on everything

      1. straffinrun

        Call her what you want, but fascist is the last thing I’d call her.

        1. Tonio

          ^This. But fascist has been redefined to mean anyone who disagrees with progressives.

          1. commodious spittoon

            In a battle between gangsterocracy under Putin or his successor and young, Rand-inspired libertarians, who do you think progressives would back? I’m betting Putin. Their hysteria about him is skin-deep but their hatred for individualism is boundless.

          2. robc

            Orwell had the same complaint in the 30s. I think he said it had come to mean whatever your opponents believe.

          3. robc

            Maybe it was the 40s, not sure.

          4. robc

            Thanks, 75 years and still no clue what it means!

          5. kbolino

            Thanks, 75 years and still no clue what it means!

            To most people, it’s a pejorative (as Orwell notes), it needs no meaning any more than “fucker” or “asshole” need a meaning. When pressed, the casual user will retreat from the bailey of fascist = bad to the motte of fascist = Nazi but of course most do not know what the Falange was or that Mussolini wasn’t a Hitler clone (and came up with fascism first), nor could they identify much about the history of Japan pre-1945 apart from its alliance with the Nazis and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Don’t even attempt to bring up South America, as few enough know who Pinochet was, or could tell you what a right-Peronist was, etc.

            Then there are certain elements which are common to many if not all fascist regimes, like the use of paramilitary forces, absorbing those forces into the state once in power, etc. which get lumped in with things like making popular appeals or talking about returning to traditions that are shared by many other kinds of political philosophies and practices as well.

    8. Mojeaux

      the writer’s popularity, especially among the youth

      Yutes gonna yute.

  24. Clearly he’s just becoming a Deplorable shitlord in his old age.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alan-dershowitz-ousting-trump-via-25th-amendment-is-clearly-an-attempt-at-a-coup-detat

    And he used to be so smart (read: DNC-aligned).

    1. Festus

      His political leanings notwithstanding, Dershowitz has always been a Constitutionalist, far as I can tell.

      1. Festus

        Best punk band name, ever.

        1. l0b0t

          I was seated next to Zander Schloss on a flight from Tampa to LAX back in 1990(?). I had, 2 nights earlier, seen them at Janus Landing and he was kind enough to let me gush like a fanboy, sign my tour shirt, and give me some band swag. A right fine fellow.

          https://youtu.be/oqPFHajaVjg

          1. Festus

            Most Excellent! I cooked a cheeseburger for Peter Fonda on the Queen Charlotte Islands. *brush with semi greatness*

          2. Bobarian LMD

            You know who else was fonda peter?

          3. Chipwooder

            I’ve seen Fear several times. The first time was at the now long-gone Foothill in Long Beach. My friends and I had nothing better to do so we went really early and were having beers at the bar when who should walk up and grab a beer than Lee Ving. That was fun.

    2. leon

      “I was speaking to the man who had just run for the presidency and won the election for the presidency and who might have done so with the aid of the government of Russia, our most formidable adversary on the world stage.

      the 1980’s called…

      Huh, everyone laughed when Obama did it.

  25. The Late P Brooks

    This ‘secret plan’, as it has ironically been called throughout its extensive media coverage, is supposed to be considering the viability of numerous different policy directions intended to offset the economic armageddon which mainstream pundits so widely expect to result from a no-deal Brexit.

    Now we’re getting somewhere.

    We need more explicit recognition of the “Change is always and everywhere bad” news coverage we have come to expect from the legacy media.

    1. Festus

      Apple carts were tipped.

    2. R C Dean

      the economic armageddon which mainstream pundits, universally opposed to British soveriegnty, so widely predictably expect given their apparent desire to be ruled from Brussels by bureaucrats with whom they share so many social ties

  26. The Late P Brooks

    Any stock market gurus have any Dow Jones predictions if the no deal happens?

    It’s like musical chairs, in reverse. Any time they think the music might stop, they all run for the exits like panicky chickens.

    1. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      The market will fluctuate.

  27. Rebel Scum

    TEAR IT DOWN!

    O’Rourke’s comments came in response to Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) asking him: “If you could snap your fingers and make El Paso’s border wall disappear, would you?”

    “Because this DHS graph shows that when the wall was built, illegal crossings dropped significantly,” Crenshaw added.

    O’Rourke made the comments on MSNBC’s “All In With Chris Hayes” on Thursday while on the border.

    “If you could, would you take the wall down now?” Hayes asked. “Knock it down?”

    “Yes, absolutely,” O’Rourke answered. “I would take the wall down.”

    O’Rourke’s comments come after his rally on Monday night in El Paso where he claimed that walls kill people.

    “With the eyes of the country upon us, all of us together are going to make our stand, here in one of the safest cities in the United States of America — safe not because of walls, but in spite of walls,” O’Rourke said. “We treat each other with dignity and respect. That is the way we make our community and our country safe.”

    “Walls do not save lives,” O’Rourke added. “They end lives.”

    That position of wanting to tear down existing barrier is at least logically consistent. The rest is just ignorant (walls kill people?) and hypocritical (i’d wager his billionaire wife’s estate(s?) is surrounded by a wall of some sort.

    1. Festus

      But he’s soooooo Dreamy!

      1. Festus

        He reminds me of those abused kids that used to be on the covers of my buddy’s sister’s Teen Beat magazines.

        1. Brochettaward

          We seem to be going in a weird direction here.

          1. Festus

            I’m thinking aged-out Leif Garrett.

        2. Rhywun

          These guys?

          1. Festus

            “Here’s some other words that rhyme with Cory – story, glory, allegory…”

    2. WTF

      safe … in spite of walls

      In spite of?

    3. The gardener at his wife’s estate is always falling off the wall and getting hurt. But that’s what you get when you hire an Irish gardener.

      1. Hey! We’re perfectly serviceable gardeners as long as we don’t try to gro potatoes.

    4. Brochettaward

      (i’d wager his billionaire wife’s estate(s?)

      It’s actually kind of amazing to me that the media was able to write puff piece after puff piece about this guy while conveniently leaving that out every time.

      1. Raphael

        Hey man, he’s really a genuine man of the common people. It’s just a facade so he can compete with those other big rich money bag politicians. /s

      2. robc

        Beto==McCain?

        1. B.P.

          And Kerry.

    5. Tejicano

      I wonder when the last time was that he went over to Ciudad Juarez – day or night.

      Even the people I grew up there in El Paso – almost all of Mexican heritage – either do not cross that border or do it only when there is no other choice (going to see relatives, etc.).

      Growing up 40-50 years ago it was no big deal. Even 35 years ago I would walk across by myself on occasion.

      My point is that Beto here is being entirely disingenuous and expects that 99% of those who read about this don’t have any idea how dangerous it is on the other side of that wall (not everywhere but definitely where he is talking about it).

      1. l0b0t

        …either do not cross that border or do it only when there is no other choice…

        That really hurts. In the late 1980s, while enjoying my time at Bliss, walking over was a regular occurrence. Juarez was often declared off-limits, for weeks at a time, to US service members because of various incidents but the crossing itself was fairly painless* and quite busy.

        *Once upon a time, we were told by US CBP that we were far too drunk and being far too combative boisterous and boyishly charming to be allowed back into the USA and we had to sleep it off down Olde Mexico way.

      2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        My neighbor has relatives in Juarez. They don’t go out at night at all.

    6. R C Dean

      “Yes, absolutely,” O’Rourke answered. “I would take the wall down.”

      Its the only honest response for an Dem who has declared walls immoral.

      Cocaine Mitch needs to call for a vote on a resolution to eliminate enforcement of the Southern border, including the elimination of ICE and the destruction of existing barriers.

  28. Pat

    Reactionary Rockism: The Dangerous Obsession with “Authenticity” in Indie Rock

    In the almost 15 years since Kalefa Sanneh took “rockism” to task, it seems like the music press has heeded his call to be, instead, “poptimists”. There’s a greater willingness today to evaluate music on its own terms rather than against standards set by rock ‘n’ roll, and artists once relegated to the ghetto of mere “pop” are praised for making meaningful connections with fans and listeners. Even Pitchfork has essentially become a clearinghouse for mainstream pop content.

    Guitar-driven music has also retreated from the mainstream, thriving almost exclusively in the indie scene, where it has undergone its own transformation, thanks to poptimist openness. Heightened awareness around issues of representation has pushed new artists to the fore of indie rock and made room for fans who might have felt alienated during the genre’s icier, dudier periods. “Women are making the best rock music today,” the New York Times declared last summer in a massive interactive feature that profiled such bands as Diet Cig, Snail Mail, Sheer Mag, and Vagabon, all of which have rock-band configurations without the all-male personnel. In her 2017 recap, “The Year ‘Indie Rock’ Meant Something Different”, Pitchfork’s Jillian Mapes saw indie breaking free of a homogenous scene lorded over by bearded and bespectacled taste-warriors. Not only are shows becoming more inclusive, they are serving as much-needed safe spaces. “I see more women, and queer people, and black and brown and Asian folks,” Mapes wrote. “There’s lots of kids who fall in between the cracks of it all, just like the music they’re coming to hear.” In the era of Trump, indie rock is redefining itself around a diverse and empowering community.

    But indie rock has also become one of the last refuges of rockism. It seems obvious that a preoccupation with rock ‘n’ roll mythology should chase that music wherever it goes. But indie and rockism also have something common at their cores: a shared fetish for authenticity. It has been difficult to talk about indie rock without also praising its “authenticity”; and likewise, to talk about “authentic” music without also invoking indie rock. Today, that catch-22 is driving a rockist blowback that would brush aside a whole slew of critical questions —about politics, money, and identity—being asked in the music community and in the culture at large.

    “Dejected white bro” detachment has long been the go-to way for indie rockers to appear unfettered by the music business (David Turner, “Is Indie Rock Over the White Male Voice?”, MTV News). It is precisely this cult of the lone male genius that Sanneh and the poptimists have rejected, and it’s been rejected, too, by the new generation of indie rockers. A big part of the recent shift in indie has been toward the sincere collective action of movements like feminism, which propose their own solutions for wriggling free from commercial interests but also from toxic social dynamics. In the face of this change, insisting on a narrow definition of authenticity starts to feel like a reactionary attempt to cleanse the scene of a certain kind of politics.

    1. uh… is the music any good?

      1. SugarFree

        Obviously not, or they wouldn’t have to shame people into listening to it.

        1. SugarFree

          Diet Cig – OK, but nothing That Dog and a few other bands did in the late-90s

          Snail Mail – Alvvays cover band with a little bit more Pixies thrown in (aka tremulous vocals over quiet-LOUD-quiet)

          Sheer Mag – terrible, just terrible, post-ironic blues metal

          Vagabon – essentially a gimmick act, a black woman fronting a bog-standard late-2010s indie band. (Also, stop mis-spelling words for band names, people)

          1. Rhywun

            I like Alvvays but they have a cover band already?!

          2. SugarFree

            It was just a sarcastic jab. But the singer does have that sort of dream pop creaminess to her voice. And she stole Molly’s hair.

          3. Rhywun

            Ah, OK. TBH it wouldn’t surprise me, the way time keeps passing me by ever faster these days.

          4. SugarFree

            And, purely as a side note, I’ve always gotten the feeling that if you asked Molly out, when you got the restaurant, you’d find her blurry friend with the glasses waiting there for you instead.

            (This literally happened to me once in 1986.)

          5. Pat

            Snail Mail got hyped to shit by the indie press because she’s gay and woke. I’m not sure if that proves or disproves the point the author of that load of drivel was trying to make.

    2. Festus

      I listen to the local college station and although there is a lot of good stuff there is a shit load of capable bands fronted by really bad singers. No tone, no pitch, no nothing. Singers used to be a dime a dozen.

      1. I’ve noticed a lot of modern bands have the vocals buried low in the mix. Or whispery female singers with no dynamic range. The instrument playing can be fantastic but if I can’t hear the lyrics or get annoyed by the singer, it’s a no sale.

        Also a lack of melodic hooks.

        1. Pat

          The instrument playing can be fantastic but if I can’t hear the lyrics or get annoyed by the singer, it’s a no sale.

          Also a lack of melodic hooks.

          So what you’re saying is you’re ready for the shoegaze revival?

          1. One of my favorite 90s groups – Moose – was called shoegaze. Never understood why.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auaHORc7ZIY

          2. Pat

            It became a buzzword in the ’90s, so every britpop band that played with a little extra reverb got called “shoegaze”. MBV and Slowdive are the genre prototypes, and literally embody everything you’ve just described as disliking.

          3. I liked Slowdive for a few weeks… and then just stopped listening to the CDs. Boredom? Dunno.

            Oddly enough I do like some “post-rock” which doesn’t even have any vocals but is more like orchestral rock music.

            The Japanese group Mono
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAV6g7la7po

          4. Pat

            Love post-rock and math rock myself. As well as shoegaze. My musical taste really couldn’t get much faggier, tbh.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “A big part of the recent shift in indie has been toward the sincere collective action of movements like feminism”

      So wuss rock then.

      1. invisible finger

        Back in the 70’s it was chicken-rock

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I guess that’s why I don’t find any of the new stuff to be worth a shit.

    5. Chipwooder

      Oh for crying out loud…..god forbid that actual rock still exists anywhere. No, we must crush the last vestiges of it in the cracks where it currently takes shelter until all music is shitty, vapid pop crap because white supremacy or something.

    6. Brochettaward

      the sincere collective action of movements like feminism

      This is the most cringe worthy thing I’ve read in some time.

      1. Festus

        “Sincere. Collective. Feminism. Are you tempting me Satan?”

    7. Rhywun

      And a yellow far undid naked this especial less badly much immeasurable lion and firm decided much porpoise affectionately the less dear the some.

    8. A Leap at the Wheel

      Meanwhile, in Gotham City Heavy Metal, things are actually pretty healthy. Probably because there are no tv gigs, corporate contracts, etc.

    9. Kids’ music these days is just a bunch of noise. Gimme Rosemary Cluny anyday.

      PS: Woke music is just as shitty as woke anything else. When you prioritize politics, artistic content takes a back seat.

      1. Pat

        It’s indistinguishable from the Contemporary Christian Music market, honestly (and I know whereof I speak). Like if you’re channel surfing in any given city you can instantly pick out the CCM station. Woke indie is exactly the same way.

        1. *grumbles about the shittiness of contemporary Christian music and how it leaks into the rest of the church*

          1. Scruffy Nerfherder

            My wife listens to some of it. I can’t stand it, I find it completely devoid of musical value.

          2. Nephilium

            Damn it man.

            /kicks rock

          3. Nephilium

            The wisdom of Hank Hill lives on.

          4. robc

            You both beat me to it, I just had the sense to refresh first.

          5. robc

            I saw Casting Crowns in concert, my wife wanted tickets. They are good live.

            Generally, I agree with you.

          6. I see contemporary Christian as a discount version of pop music. There are a few good songs and artists, but they’re surrounded by a whole bunch of crap.

            I met Lauren Daigle before she got big. Her agent(?) used to be the music director at our church before he move to Nashville. That girl has some pipes! However, most of her songs are an attempt to clone Adele (which she can do half decently) rather than make creative and genuinely good music.

          7. It’s targeted for 14 year old girls. Why? Because 14 year old girls turn into 26 year old moms, and 26 year old moms are who motivate family to come to church.

            Granted, more people wouldn’t have to be dragged to church if the music was half decent and the preaching wasn’t dumbed down to a middle school level.

          8. robc

            Was having lunch with my pastor the other day, and he was talking about the “niche” other pastor’s were targeting. For one, he said their decibel level was driving everyone over 30 away.

          9. ChipsnSalsa

            preaching wasn’t dumbed down to a middle school level

            Agreed. I can’t say I get a lot out of most sermons. I’m finishing the thoughts and coming up with the references on the spot. The first time goes through the stuff, the second time (as he likes to repeat himself) I might be coloring with my daughter.

            I did have a pastor that did some high level thought preaching. There were less than 10 people in the church that were keeping pace with him.

            So what’s a pastor to do? Have to go to where the people are, figuratively and dumb it down.

          10. I’ve had a similar discussion with our worship pastor. He feels like he’s stuck between a rock and a hard place. Cut back the contemporary songs and the core demographic (the 40 something soccer moms, of all people) start to complain. Cut back the hymns and other demographics start to complain.

            We have the added complications of not having enough congregational musical talent to be able to do a decent contemporary service and being a tri-lingual church, we need songs that are translated in Spanish and mandarin.

          11. So what’s a pastor to do? Have to go to where the people are, figuratively and dumb it down.

            *nods solemnly*

            If I were Sr. Pastor for the day, I’d structure the standard Sunday so that there was corporate worship, but no sermon. The entire church would split into groups of 15 or so and go study in a group appropriate to their level of understanding and their season of life. Then, after 45 minutes, reconvene for a quick (5 minute) summary and communion.

            The early church did something similar. Churches were small, and new members were expected to go through catcechetical training before they were allowed in to the main group.

            We have something kinda like that as an option now (there are classes during all but the earliest service), but its so easy to do the lazy thing and just go zone out during the sermon.

          12. Chipwooder

            Our church just has a separate contemporary service. Traditional at 8 and 11, contemporary at 9:45. I much prefer traditional, so of course 9:45 is what the wife wants.

          13. ChipsnSalsa

            “It’s better than that song that keeps inviting the Holy Spirit in like He’s some kind of coy puppy dog.”

            exactly.

      2. Fourscore

        “Gimme Rosemary Cluny …and associates… any day.”

        I need to be be able to comprehend the lyrics. The sappy music of the ’50s and ’60s fit my personality.

        Not Cutting Edge Guy

        .

    10. invisible finger

      “Guitar-driven music has also retreated from the mainstream, thriving almost exclusively in the indie scene, where it ”

      … has nobody that can play more than two-chords.

      …has put all the nails in its coffin

      …should more properly be called “folk” music – or more appropriately “shitty folk music.”

  29. Certified Public Asshat

    Amazon is paying $0 in taxes on $11+ billion in profit.$0 for schools.$0 for firefighters.$0 for infrastructure.$0 for research and healthcare.Why should corporations that contribute nothing to the pot be in a position to take billions from the public? https://t.co/IdsuKaVOTU— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) February 14, 2019

    She should just say it, eliminate states.

    1. Well minus the jobs… and the low, low prices.

      1. leon

        Hey now, the Low prices are a given. besides that, what has Amazon ever done for us.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      I’m against special deals, but Amazon is one of the largest tax collection (if not the largest) organizations in the world.

      If government had to collect its own sales taxes and withholding, it would rapidly go broke.

      1. Pat

        Thankfully SCOTUS turned every business in America into the tax collector for all 50 states.

        I still can’t believe how little attention that utter fucking abortion of a ruling got.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          It’s a largely ignored part (by the general public) of business in modern America.

          Businesses collect sales taxes, collect withholding taxes, implement regulations, limit consumer choices per the government, all under the threat of fines and/or jail time.

          1. mindyourbusiness

            lessee…what’s the definition of fascism, again?

          2. The advocacy for tying sticks around axes?

      2. Certified Public Asshat

        The same 10-k does show they paid over a billion dollars in taxes (actual cash).

    3. Drake

      They pay sales tax. I assume the employees and shareholders pay income and capital gains tax.

    4. LJW

      I bet if we proposed a flat tax and framed in it a way to say fuck Amazon, the left would vote for it.

      1. Drake

        Isn’t the corporate tax already flat? (I really don’t know)

        1. LJW

          I have no idea. Maybe one day when LJW Inc. is well established I’ll find out.

        2. Certified Public Asshat

          It is a flat 21%. I assume LJW meant flat tax with limited deductions?

          1. Drake

            Re-writing FASB rules always has unexpected consequences.

      2. Festus

        Throw a smidge of “Fuck Drumph” in that pot and you’ve gotta soup!

    5. Rhywun

      Why should corporations that contribute nothing to the pot [flat-out lie removed for clarity -Ed.] be in a position to take billions from the public?

      She might want to ask Google, Apple, the New York Times, and every Hollywood film studio about their experiences taking billions from the public. And if she gives a logically consistent answer I’ll eat my hat.

    6. R C Dean

      Why should corporations that contribute nothing to the pot comply with tax law be in a position to take billions from the public advantage of incentive programs offered by governments?

      I dunno, Alex-From-The-Hood. You tell me why following the rules and taking what’s offered you is a bad thing.

  30. The Late P Brooks

    “With the eyes of the country upon us, all of us together are going to make our stand, here in one of the safest cities in the United States of America — safe not because of walls, but in spite of walls,” O’Rourke said. “We treat each other with dignity and respect. That is the way we make our community and our country safe.”

    “Walls do not save lives,” O’Rourke added. “They end lives.”

    Good grief. What a vapid ninny.

    1. WTF

      I wish someone would ask Bobby O’Rourke to explain exactly how walls end lives.

      1. He was probably terrified one might jump across the highway he was driving the wrong way on after a bender.

        1. WTF

          Noyce!

      2. Pat

        Same way guns do, I guess.

      3. If they work as advertised and keep poor people in shithole countries more of said poor people will be killed in said shithole countries.

        1. MikeS

          Just let ’em all in!

          1. I’m not saying that we should or shouldn’t let people in, only suggesting one answer to the ‘how do walls kill people’ question. I don’t actually personally buy it, but if you accept Trump’s premises it is one that can inferred..

          2. MikeS

            I actually agree with what you’re saying about what they are saying in regards to what he is saying. Well said.

      4. Chipwooder

        Or look into the kind of place where married-into-billions Bobby O’Rourke lives. Gated community with private security, perhaps?

      5. Rhywun

        I’m guessing it’s the old “this wall redirects migrants to the desert where there’s no wall” argument. Which could be seen as an argument for building more wall but Beto probably doesn’t think that many steps ahead.

  31. Drake

    So Florida is to blame for New York’s budget problems. All the tax-slaves jumped the fence and ran off.
    https://hotair.com/archives/2019/02/12/new-york-governor-florida-stealing-population/

    1. Juvenile Bluster

      We were already stealing New York’s population long before federal tax reform. Nothing’s really changed. New York steals a ton of its’ residents money, Florida doesn’t (Or at least we steal a lot less).

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        No. People move to Florida just because of the weather. No one makes decisions about relocating based upon taxes and job opportunities. We are all stagnant actors.

        This is the argument that is frequently made in Illinois

        1. Rhywun

          People move to Florida just because of the weather.

          That’s the part where I just SMDH. If I ever moved to Florida it sure as hell wouldn’t be because of the weather.

          1. I don’t think I ever stopped sweating for a minute during my time in that state. It was by far the worst of the lot on that trip, and my stays included Alabama, Mississippi and Texas, which aren’t known for being slackers in the horrible summers department.

          2. Gadfly

            What, you don’t like swamp heat only relieved by the occasional hurricane?

      2. Chipwooder

        Seems like half of my mother’s family, all of whom were born in NYC or Long Island, live in south Florida.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      They just need to pass a leaving for Florida tax and all will be set right.

      1. Brochettaward

        We’re three election cycles away from prog states advocating for walls to keep people in. Book it.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          No need to physically retain the people. Just make a non-removable tax obligation regardless of the current location/residence. Convenience of the employer logic is already a bullshit enough tax grab sonit wouldn’t be that much further down the rabbit hole.

          1. R C Dean

            Just make a non-removable tax obligation regardless of the current location/residence.

            We’re already starting down that road with the removal of a requirement that a business have a physical presence in a state before the state can impose taxes on that business’s sales to residents of the state.

      2. Drake

        NJ did it. It didn’t really help.

    3. robc

      Does Andy realize you can’t own people anymore?

      1. You think he cares a whit what some piece of paper written over a century ago has to say?

  32. Festus

    Tell that to the Viennese circa 1683.

    1. WTF

      “Walls don’t work!”
      – Sultan Mehmed IV

    2. R C Dean

      + 1 Sobieski

      1. Rhywun

        ?✔️

  33. Festus

    Brooksed it. Now I sit in the box and feel shame…

    1. Festus

      Double Brooksed!

      1. commodious spittoon

        Is there a red card equivalent for hockey, for Glibs commenting?

        1. Tundra

          Match penalty. He’s done.

        2. Festus

          Yep. Empty spikes at the city gates.

  34. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

    “Kaepernick wanted $20 million or more to consider playing with the league”

    Kaepernick did learn a very important lesson in economics. Maybe he can think about that as he sits on the couch during another football season.

    1. Certified Public Asshat

      Well he didn’t learn from opting out of a guaranteed contract.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        “The Miseducation of Colin Kaepernick”

    2. Rasilio

      You are assuming that

      a) he actually wants to play
      and
      b) that he does not make more by maintaining his status as a blacklisted player

      Asking for $20 mil to play in a startup league was just a politically advantageous way of him saying “Thanks but no thanks”.

    3. R C Dean

      He’s now in the martyr business, not the QB business.

  35. Rufus the Monocled

    Ha! Kaepernick is such an arrogant douche.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      What do people who play that silly hobby think about that golfer who allegedly stiffed his spick caddy?

      1. Festus

        Unsure. Seems to me that accepted mores call for the caddy to receive 10% of the player’s winnings + tips. Who was the purported asshole?

        1. Matt Kuchar, and he and the temp caddy had worked out a pay scale ahead of time and then offered him a 15g bonus ( he made 5g for the week), caddy wanted 50g, not sure who is the asshole here.

          1. “…and then Matt offered…”

            if that wasn’t clear.

          2. Festus

            Huh. Kuchar is apparently one of the best guys on the tour. Smells like a shakedown, to me.

          3. Chipwooder

            Exactly.

            Kuchar had to offer the guy 5 grand out of desperation, basically. He needed a caddy on short notice. There are plenty of caddies who don’t make $5K at a tournament under the 10% cut of winnings – guys whose golfer miss the cut, for instance.

          4. I heard the deal was $1000 no matter what, $2000 if he made the cut $3000 for top 20 and $4000 for top three, so he already gave the guy a 1 grand tip and offered 15 more, pretty sweet for a weeks work. That caddy can go fuck himself.

          5. Chipwooder

            Didn’t know that. Makes the caddy look like even more of a weasel.

      2. Chipwooder

        Kuchar didn’t stiff him. He paid him the $5000 they agreed on prior to the tourny, and then offered him another $15,000 as a bonus after winning which the guy refused so he could complain and pretend to be a martyr in an attempt to shame Kuchar into paying him the 10%. Here’s the thing though – Kuchar’s not a big star. He might not have won shit, in which case the guy wouldn’t have even gotten $5000. That’s why he had to offer the guy a flat fee in the first place, to get a guy on short notice.

        1. Festus

          All of the tetris locks into place.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          Ah. Thanks all.

          Because, as you know, sounds like the media (surprise!) are painting Kuchar as the bad guy. You made $45 million! Russo even said he should invest in the guy’s laundromat.

          How’s that for socialism creeping in to people’s lives? It’s irrelevant how much he made. If they made a deal, honour it.

  36. Why Does It Feel Like Everyone Has More Money Than You?
    Financial help from parents comes in many forms, and it’s the basis of so many success stories. So why do millennials act like it doesn’t exist? Jen Doll examines the myth—and tyranny—of the “self-made” success story.

    As with any “meritocracy,” appearances are only a piece of the story. Wealth inequality has increased more in this decade than any other in American history, while economic mobility has done the opposite, as Matthew Stewart writes in an Atlantic article about the new American aristocracy. Money has always been passed down in families, but today, across America, parents who can are helping their grown children at unprecedented levels. A recent study from Merrill Lynch and Age Wave reported that 79 percent of the parents surveyed are providing financial support to their adult children, at an average $7,000 a year—making for a combined $500 billion annually. Increasing numbers of first-time home buyers in the U.S. are getting money from their parents for down payments. In a CreditCards.com survey of parents with children over the age of 18, three out of four helped their kids pay debts and living expenses, including rent, utilities, and cell phone bills.

    “If one does not have money in the form of a family with money, the chances of becoming an entrepreneur drop quite a bit.” (In their working paper, they explain how a “$100,000 increase in family income is associated with a more than 50 percent increase in the odds of becoming incorporated self-employed.” Further, according to Quartz, “the average cost to launch a startup is around $30,000,” and “more than 80 percent of funding for new businesses comes from personal savings and friends and family.”)

    This flies in the face of the idealized rags-to-riches American success story, that it’s not only possible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps, it’s also the most honorable and worthy storyline there is. Which is why disclosing the truth about how you—or who—really funded your first business, home, or even something as simple as your first car is so important.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      When the Fed disincentivizes savings and encourages debt, it tamps down entrepeneurial behavior at lower income levels.

      1. Mojeaux

        Seed money gotta come from somewhere.

        1. Festus

          I used to be in your shoes, Mojeaux, always berating myself about friends that had a nicer home, better job etc. I still feel entitled to more but experience has tempered my envy. In the ladies’ eyes it’s better to be fit than rich once one reaches a certain age.

          1. Mojeaux

            berating myself

            This is apt. I don’t begrudge what others have. I am angry I do not have the wherewithal to get it for myself. I’m sorta smart. I should be doing better at 50, no?

            But you guys helped me through that, doing my taxes showed me how much money we are really making, and I had to examine where our money is really going.

            Houses and kids are expensive, yo.

          2. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Houses and kids are expensive, yo.

            No shit. I compare what I’m spending on my kids versus what my parents spent on me (and they were not tight) and I’m just depressed. Tuition and medical care costs are absurd.

          3. So will you sign this petition for the repeal of child labor laws?

          4. Scruffy Nerfherder

            Absolutely

          5. Mojeaux

            The house infrastructure problems are taking most of our extra and our credit; the kids are taking the rest.

            But you know, we HAVE a house. It is warm. We have good food (when I bother to cook it up). We love each other.

          6. Festus

            I always forget how much smarterer than me that you guys are and then I crack another beer and wait for the countdown to Sunday. And then I feel shame.

          7. But you guys helped me through that, doing my taxes showed me how much money we are really making, and I had to examine where our money is really going.

            My marriage was on the fast track to divorce until we both sat down and looked at our finances. I’ve always been a “saver”, but my wife got on board with me immediately when I showed her a number starting with a 5 and having 6 digits as our total debt. She didn’t think it was a crisis until I found the right way to explain it to her. We have been budgeting to the penny(ish) ever since. We never want to be in the unknowing place ever again.

            Know where you are, know where you want to end up. Then you can connect the dots.

          8. Mojeaux

            Ours starts with a 2, in the middlish range, but it still seems insurmountable.

          9. *nods in knowing agreement*

          10. Rasilio

            I don’t think that my total debt is quite into 5 figures but then we do not own a home and are living completely paycheck to paycheck and struggling to even do that

          11. I think my personal debt starts with a 6 or 7 and is five digits. That’s a house and car partially paid for. By some calculations that means I have a positive net worth.

          12. I never really worry about car or house debt because that won’t sink you — it’s the runaway stuff that snowballs on credit cards, etc that puts you in a bind. The house and car(s) are basically budgeted for. I looked at the tables and we are in the top 5% of earners (It doesn’t feel like that at all!). We have gotten our extra debt under control (401k loans suck, but are a decent choice to pay off larger amounts in 3 years.)

          13. I never really worry about car or house debt because that won’t sink you

            Assuming they’re budgeted for, yes. There’s a reason “house poor” is a thing. I’ve also met people who have rolled so many cars into the next loan that theyre $15k underwater on their $12k corolla.

            Peak financial stupidity is hanging out somewhere in the ether with peak derp.

            /guy who had $1000 in monthly car payments less than a year ago

          14. Playa Manhattan

            1k a month in car payments? How is that even possible?

          15. Rhywun

            I have 0 debt but only because I haven’t spawned and I don’t own anything.

          16. 2 cars, one brand new with all the trimmings. $575/MO for that one, $400/mo for the other one. Just clicked submit 10 minutes ago to pay off the 2nd car, so no more car payments for us!

          17. I remember that feeling Trashy.

            Just don’t forget to take the lien paperwork to the DMV when the loan company sends it.

          18. R C Dean

            1k a month in car payments? How is that even possible?

            If you include lease payments, not hard at all.

          19. Rasilio

            I had $1200 a month in car payments until a couple of months ago. 5 years ago I had a 2001 Ford Taurus with 200k miles on it and a 2003 Ford Freestar (which I bought used in 06) with over 250k miles on it. Both needed to be replaced between Spring of 2012 and Summer of 2013. One car had a $700 a month payment, the other had a $500 a month payment (technically a little less than that but we always rounded the payments up to those numbers).

            Looked into buying a used car in each of the cases and because of the way the banks treat the loans differently for new vs used cars it was actually cheaper to buy the more expensive new car because the increased interest on the used car actually made it cost the same or more than the new car.

            Thank you for that President Obama.

          20. . 5 years ago I had a 2001 Ford Taurus with 200k miles on it and a 2003 Ford Freestar (which I bought used in 06) with over 250k miles on it.

            Change freestar to escape and cut the mileage by 75k each, and thats what we had 5 years ago, too. Both had engine issues among other things, so we bought the 2 newer cars in 2015.

          21. commodious spittoon

            Houses and kids are expensive, yo.

            That’s why I bought this van and found a nice patch of waterfront real estate.

          22. Fourscore

            Is it near running water?

          23. R C Dean

            I should be doing better at 50, no?

            Houses and kids are expensive, yo.

            What worth the most in your life probably doesn’t show up in your bank account. In fact, I feel sorry for anyone who only finds value in their life based on their net worth.

            My debts are $300K+, my financial net worth is very difficult to calculate because of the elaborate liability and tax avoidance schemes I have in place, and I really don’t care that I don’t actually know what my financial net worth is. Money and wealth exist only as a means to material security – the knowledge that you won’t miss any meals, won’t have to sleep in the open, etc. – for as long as possible.

            Anyone who uses net worth as a way to keep score is playing the wrong game with money and wealth. They should stop doing that.

          24. Anyone who uses net worth as a way to keep score is playing the wrong game with money and wealth. They should stop doing that.

            But, man, I neeeeeed numbers.

            /withdrawl shakes.

          25. R C Dean

            FICO score

            Cal’s trailing by six.

          26. A Leap at the Wheel

            >What worth the most in your life probably doesn’t show up in your bank account.

            No shit. Why even bury gold, silver-bearing US coins, and ammunition in the back yard if you are going to declare it on Govurnmnt paperwork?

          27. Mojeaux

            Money and wealth exist only as a means to material security – the knowledge that you won’t miss any meals, won’t have to sleep in the open, etc. – for as long as possible.

            This is why I keep nattering on about it. I do not feel that security.

            We have to provide for our children. We worry. Maybe overmuch. Maybe because I worry overmuch, I overstate the case.

      2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        Kill the Austrian talking points! They make far too much sense

      3. Pat

        And then when the SEC joins the game and kills every possible avenue for raising capital that might be accessible to the less wealthy, such as crowdfunding…

    2. leon

      I don’t care how someone got their money, as long as they didn’t do it by getting the government to steal it from others.

    3. Why Does It Feel Like Everyone Has More Money Than You?

      It doesn’t. I have reached a level of income where I have no fear of eviction. No fear of starvation. No fear of not being able to have transport should something befall my current mode. No fear of having utilities shut off. I grew up through all those, and know many who still live that way.

      It must be that I don’t wallow in envy of those doing better still.

      1. leon

        Envy is good!

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        To be envious is to be human, you just have to learn to control it:

        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100322092057.htm

      3. A Leap at the Wheel

        Similar. I’m not the one putting anonymous bags of groceries on people’s doorstep, buying their kids Christmas presents, giving a battered woman a place to live rent-free for 9 months, and buying someone a car so they can work.

        Why, because those are all things that were done for my family growing up.

        I’m surrounded by people who make more than me. And I don’t give two flying shits.

        1. Festus

          In my teen years I was the king of the strays. I was fairly autonomous from my parents but there were many a runaway that stayed in Mom and Dad’s house. Just a soft touch to be honest.

      4. Pope Jimbo

        I’m terrible with money. The only concept I get is that if you have some, you can do fun things with it.

        Yet, I’m doing very well. Better off than young me ever dreamed I’d do. Why? My wife. She is very smart with money, likes to save and has an iron will.

        The only thing she has taught me is the concept of “How badly do I want to fight with my wife if I buy this?” In reality, it works pretty well. I don’t waste all my money on short term dumb things like I used to.

        1. Fourscore

          Yeah, there is a time in our lives where more isn’t necessarily better. The recognition of that time is important and by George, I think you’ve got it.

      5. R C Dean

        See, Unciv has what I think is the right attitude.

    4. LJW

      How about who gives a shit about how you came to be wealthy as long as you didn’t steal it.

    5. Pat

      You Didn’t Build That 2: Electric Boogaloo.

    6. Raphael

      A bunch of people have more money that me, sure. I made my life and career choices and sure I’m not exactly Bezos or Musk, but I like what I do, I got enough money to feed myself, keep a roof over my head, and buy some video games. I hope to make myself better and work harder to get more money in the next job later this year, but I’m pretty okay and doing quite decently for a millennial.

      1. Raphael

        Meant to add before I hit the damn enter key: I don’t feel the need to be envious of the other people and I know if I apply myself more and make solid choices, it’ll all be okay.

        1. Fourscore

          See my comment above to the Pope. Same applies to you

          1. Fourscore

            …and all the others here…

    7. Why Does It Feel Like Everyone Has More Money Than You?

      Because we stopped using credit to buy shiny things 2 years ago, and most other people live beyond their means?

      1. ChipsnSalsa

        trshmnstr has it correct.

        All those new toys and fun stuff you see everyone else you know makes about the same as you is all being bought on credit. One appliance breaks or a major car problem and these people will be in dire straights both financially and their marriage.

        Nothing puts a strain on your marriage quite like not having enough money for all the wild things you bought.

    8. A recent study from Merrill Lynch and Age Wave reported that 79 percent of the parents surveyed are providing financial support to their adult children, at an average $7,000 a year

      Dafuq? 79%?

      Shit like this makes me want to buy 1000 acres in the middle of nowhere and live smack down in the middle of it.

      1. Pat

        *BATFE has joined the game*

      2. wdalasio

        This has got to be some sort of a new trend. I certainly don’t remember it when I was growing up. And my impression is that it isn’t even stuff like the adult children living at home while they save up for a down payment on their own place. It’s out-and-out subsidies.

        1. Arrested development. What happens next generation when mommy and daddy stop getting allowance from grandma and grandpa. We’re gonna have a bunch of young adults running around with no work ethic and no allowance.

          1. wdalasio

            Which is why I think we’re seeing the increasing popularity of socialism. You’re seeing a generaton that is starting to look at the government as their substitute Mommy and Daddy.

        2. Rhywun

          Unfettered capitalism. What’re you gonna do?

          1. wdalasio

            People have a right to do what they want with their money. And I have a right to personally disapprove.

          2. Name and shame the cultural influences creating this mess.

        3. Pope Jimbo

          I have a ne’er do well cousin who sponges off my aunt a lot. The aunt has asked me to have a few chats with him (because his real dad is out of the picture).

          Last time she was asking me to talk to him, I pointed out that a lot of his worthless behavior would end if she stopped giving him money. Her reply, “I don’t give him money any more. I pay a few bills for him, but no cash!”

          Sigh.

          She won’t cut him off and go tough love on his ass.

          1. ChipsnSalsa

            I was assured that money is not fungible.

          2. “I love you too much to enable your self-destructive behavior.”

      3. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

        I’d have to see the study. Does it include college tuition? What’s the median? Does it include Christmas gifts?

        Doing some quick math if I add college tuition and help with the down payment on my first house, my parents averaged $2500/year. It’s even higher if you count cash Christmas presents and help with my kids’ college funds.

        1. Since when do parents help with any of those?

          /born poor

          1. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

            You should have done a better job choosing your parents.

            /born lucky

        2. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

          I tracked down the study about parents helping their kids. Here’s what they include for adults (18-34):
          Food/Groceries
          Cell Phone
          Car Expenses
          School
          Vacations
          Rent/Mortgage
          Student Loans

          So what the study really means is that if you have a kid in college, you are paying a lot.

        3. R C Dean

          Since I graduated from law school, the only financial aid I have gotten from my parents is a couple of short-term bridge loans to cover the gap between buying and selling a house.

          This thing where adults are sponging off their parents for a lifestyle (and that includes a house) that is beyond their means is just baffling to me. Especially when those parents almost certainly do not have enough saved for retirement.

          1. I was raised in a similar mindset to you. During undergrad, my dad paid for 2 of 10 semesters (I paid the rest), and I lived at home when I worked a co-op at my dad’s company. Oh, and for the month between graduation and starting my engineering job.

            Haven’t received another penny from my parents that weren’t birthday/wedding/baby gifts.

            It wasn’t even a question of asking for support. My dad would help out if it was between that and sleeping in your car, but short of that there was too much shame in asking.

          2. Asking for help feels like an admission of failure. The last time I stooped to that was when it was physically impossible for me to move out of my apartment alone. Asking for money is out of the question.

          3. R C Dean

            There was a stretch after law school when I was living at the Y, selling plasma to pay for ramen.

            There was another stretch, after my divorce, when I was living in my own basement and renting out the main house.

            It literally never crossed my mind to ask my parents for money.

          4. Rhywun

            I crashed at my folks’ place for a couple weeks somewhere during undergrad which they were glad to let me do but most of that summer it was couch surfing and at one point a rooming house and living literally on peanuts. And all of it was my own damn fault for being a bit of a fuck-up that year.

          5. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

            My parents paid for my undergrad college. Because it was an expensive private school, I didn’t ask them to pay for my graduate degree. The help they gave me for my the down payment on a house was originally a loan. I wouldn’t have asked for it, but it’s the Bay Area, and even the small house we bought on the fringes was expensive. Anyway, that loan turned into a gift when I lost my job when the bubble burst in 2000. Actually, I held my job until 2003, but eventually my company succumbed. I asked him if I could delay payments until I found a new job and he said just make it a gift. As for the help with my kids’ college expenses, my dad says it’s his way to avoid the inheritance tax, and he believes that children should have an education. The children he’s related to anyway. If my parents weren’t set for retirement there’s no way I’d want to accept the money, but again, at this point it’s a way avoid the inheritance tax.

    9. JaimeRoberto: Gentleman, Scholar, French Tickler

      Why Does It Feel Like Everyone Has More Money Than You?

      Because their assets are visible but their liabilities are not.

      1. Mojeaux

        This is gold. Stealing.

      2. Creosote Achilles

        That is God’s Truth right there.

      3. R C Dean

        I was appalled when I worked for a short stint at a consulting firm in Chicago. A lot of people making good money, and from what I could tell they burned every paycheck as soon as it came in on fancy cars, houses/apartments, restaurants, etc. People making six figures, often with spouses making good money also, who were paycheck-to-paycheck.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Neiman Marxist says those grapes were sour, and nobody I know wanted them, anyway.

    “Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world,” Ocasio-Cortez, whose district would have been impacted by Amazon’s new HQ, wrote on Twitter.

    De Blasio says, “Hey, is that a parade? I’d better go try to jump in front of it!”

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio criticized Amazon for shelving HQ2.

    “You have to be tough to make it in New York City,” de Blasio said in a statement.

    “We gave Amazon the opportunity to be a good neighbor and do business in the greatest city in the world. Instead of working with the community, Amazon threw away that opportunity.

    “We have the best talent in the world and every day we are growing a stronger and fairer economy for everyone. If Amazon can’t recognize what that’s worth, its competitors will.”

    Whatever you say.

    -ef

    1. leon

      Alright, I know its what big city folk do. But don’t you think that even they have to recognize it’s bulshit. “New York City” being the “Greatest City in the world”? Really? I mean every city has its own set of issues, but i wouldn’t put NYC at the “tippy tops”.

      1. Desk Jockey

        A buddy of mine lives in the city. I went to see him and when his girlfriend got a couple drinks in, she started going on and on about how “everyone in America wants to live where they get to live.”

        I don’t get it but whatever floats their boat down there.

        1. Rhywun

          More like “everybody from the third world” – and that’s nothing new. And the 70s proved that even that’s conditional.

        2. I would rather live here.

          Oh wait… I do!

        3. pistoffnick

          It’s a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there.

          Traffic sucks, everything is expensive, there are too damn many people, and the gun laws are terrible

          1. Fourscore

            Try Grand Rapids, MN, looks similar to MI but fewer folks and few care about guns, in the negative sense

        4. leon

          I had a friend who moved out for 6 months, came back to us “Hicks in the Sticks” and couldn’t stop telling me about how much he loved it, and how much everyone “was on the bleeding edge”. I’m sure he’s right that you are much more in “The happening” because there are so many people there, but i’ll take my sleepy quite town and remote job over the busy city.

          1. Brochettaward

            I don’t think I could associate with a person who said bleeding edge.

          2. Back in my punk rock days, we would often go to Chicago to see a show. It seems that the scene there (at least back in those days) was a lot more splintered. ie, if you were into straight-edge music, or oi, or free form jazz odyssey then there was a show that night for you to go to.

            On the other hand, in Grand Rapids, there was the one show to go to. So even if the music wasn’t quite your thing, you still went to hang out with your friends. It brought a lot of disparate people together – sometimes good, sometimes bad. Like the white power skinheads who would show up now ‘n’ then.

          3. leon

            OMG. You were in the same place as a Nazi? did you perform the appropriate cleansing rituals afterwords? otherwise you may still be tainted by their blemish.

    2. wdalasio

      …today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world,

      I think it’s save to say that Jeff Bezos wasn’t the one who lost out yesterday.

      1. There’s been some murmors that the powers that be among the Dems might be inclined to crush Red Cortez over this.

        1. wdalasio

          At some point, maybe. But, at this point, they’re saddled with her for the next two years. And as far as I’m concerned, “Enjoy the ride, guys”.

        2. invisible finger

          I remember hearing the same thing in regards to the GOP and Trump.

          1. I’m sure they were also inclined to crush him.

            Karla Marx also represents an area where the national stage won’t be too surprised to hear of a random mugging where the victim was shot twice in the back of the head and nothing taken.

          2. Trump is Preezy. Cortez is in the house. A difference.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    Oh, for fuck’s sake.

    Edit fairy? Pretty please?

    1. Brochettaward

      One thing I miss about Reason was that sometimes when someone would screw up their HTML it would reformat the whole page. The commenting features were barebones to the max. There weren’t people crying for edit fairies. They just sucked it up and soldiered on.

      1. Festus

        He was just hoping for “Thicc” fairy.

      2. Nobody called for an edit fairie because they knew, on that orange ground, no help was coming.

      3. leon

        I know it’s not anything major, but the fact that TOS comments couldn’t handle failed tags scared me.

        1. Tonio

          The whole site was shakey. The squirrels became a running gag for a reason.

          1. Rhywun

            For the life of me I could never understand why they were rolling their own instead of just going with one of the many CMS’s out there.

          2. robc

            What is sad is how many of the ones used suck hard.

            beeradvocate.com rolled their own and it is nice.

            I also like sbnation’s.

          3. juris imprudent

            You would’ve preferred disqus?

          4. With disqus, I would never have seen any of the comments.

          5. Mojeaux

            *shudder*

          6. robc

            Only thing worse than disqus is the facebook based abomination that cafehayek uses.

          7. Rhywun

            Yeah, there should be a dark place in hell for the Facebook comment plugin.

  39. Festus

    So this week one of our contracted truckers dropped stone dead from a heart attack in the parking lot. That was something.

    1. Drake

      People just don’t respect contracts.

    2. Mojeaux

      At least he didn’t do it behind the wheel.

      1. MikeS

        A considerate man, to the very end.

        1. Festus

          All mirth aside, here was a random guy, going about his business. Lord knows how long he laid there seeing as it was 25 below and nobody would venture outside without good reason. It was just sad.

          1. MikeS

            Ahh. That does suck. This recently happened in my neck of the woods. Very, very sad.

          2. Nephilium

            A kid who worked in the Call Center I used to support had an aneurysm in his driveway walking to his car one morning on his way into work. Early 20’s, nice kid.

      2. Pope Jimbo

        A guy I used to work with did that. Croaked behind the wheel on his way to work. Jumped the median and hit some poor bastard on the other side.

        The other guy lived, but was messed up pretty badly. It was a terrible story.

        1. Fourscore

          That’s a fear I have, that I may be the cause, one more thing to worry about.

          1. Festus

            That’s how my Dad checked out. I told the story some months ago.

        2. invisible finger

          Why doesn’t the government pass a law making dying while driving illegal??

      3. When I was in college I worked one summer for Indiana department of transportation repainting the salt spreaders (that’s where I developed my hate for the color yellow) and a guy driving a tar truck had a heart attack and died. It hit the center divider and the tar filled the water drains. They pulled us away from the painting and I was on the side of the road cleaning tar out of the drains for two days. If you’re ever driving north bound on I 465 near I 70 you can still see black tar on the center wall. What was really creepy is the lunchbox of the guy that died sat on the side of the road for weeks.

    3. juris imprudent

      Yeah, one job I’m under consideration for, the opening is to replace a guy who died. Accident in the home.

      1. Festus

        NPR Voice – Good times, Good Times…

  40. Pope Jimbo

    Minnesoda Man may soon be in trademark dispute with STEVE SMITH

    The Wisconsin State Patrol found the woman running out of a wooded area with her wrists bound together and screaming for help. Authorities say a fully naked Reese following her out of the woods and tried running across an interstate before he was arrested.

    I wonder if the guy actually had an erection, or if he was rock hard simply because his pecker froze solid while running around in the woods naked?

    1. leon

      I read a Darwin award of a couple getting some love under a tree during a storm. The tree was stuck by lightning, and the woman died instantly. The man however survived and when he came to… he was stuck.

      1. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

        “he came to”

        Then how could he possible be stuck?

      2. That couple had a bunch of electricity in their relationship

        1. Raphael

          It must have been quite the shocking occasion for the guy.

          1. MikeS

            The secret to a happy relationship is staying grounded.

          2. juris imprudent

            Court and spark.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          What you did there, I see it.

      3. Pope Jimbo

        At least he made her curl her toes.

    2. “Tulsi Gabbard Apologist”

      MN sounds like a horror movie

      1. Its all just propaganda to prevent people from moving there.

        1. MikeS

          If that was the end game, they’d just put Pope Jimbo in all the tourism ads.

          1. Pope Jimbo

            What’s up, my NoDa?

          2. MikeS

            Yah, heeeeyyy daaarrrrrrrrre!

      2. A Leap at the Wheel

        Its rather nice for three months out of the year.

        WI is where things get really wonky.

        If you are ever in town, look me up and I’ll show you around. You can come check out my collection of plastic tarps, band saws, and duct tape that I keep right next to the floor drain in the basement. It’ll be great!

        1. Pope Jimbo

          Don’t for get to put the disclaimer “if you like mosquitoes” in the fine print when you make wild claims about it being nice.

          1. A Leap at the Wheel

            Meh. I’ve camped on Assateague Island for a week during mosquito season once. I don’t even notice normal volumes of mosquitoes after that.

            PS – don’t camp on Assateague Island during mosquito season

          2. Rasilio

            Could be worse, you could be camping on Plum island during Greenhead season

    3. A Leap at the Wheel

      Has anyone seen Tundra today?

      1. MikeS

        Yep. I’m looking at it right now out my office window.

      2. Tundra

        Right here, dude. Enjoying the sunny icebox.

  41. The Late P Brooks

    And then when the SEC joins the game and kills every possible avenue for raising capital that might be accessible to the less wealthy, such as crowdfunding…

    It’s for your own good, you ingrate.

  42. Pope Jimbo

    Uffda. I guess the state bureaucrats didn’t schedule enough status meetings. A report was just released that says that the reason the new licensing system Minnesoda tried to build failed was because of a lack of oversight.

    Ultimately, after more than $100 million spent and nine years leading to the 2017 release, “many factors, rather than a single person or a single decision,” crippled the system’s release and “agency leadership did not take sufficient steps to ensure that this large and risky project would succeed,” the report said.

    1. commodious spittoon

      And therefore we couldn’t possibly fire a single person over it. It wouldn’t be fair.

    2. Oh, come on, even New York managed to roll out a revamped licensing system without botching it. And ITS suck.

      /ITS Employee

    3. Fourscore

      Is that the Driver’sLicensing and Light Rail Agency

    4. R C Dean

      many factors, rather than a single person or a single decision

      Excellent bureaucratic misdirection. I’m sure the truth is that many people and many decisions are responsible for the failure and wasted money.

  43. MikeS

    Do try and stay away from being banned today, mkay?

    So you’re saying getting a cow butt is OK…

    1. l0b0t

      How else are ya gonna get rennet? What, you hate cheese?

      1. You don’t get it out of that end. Too much intestine in the way.

        1. MikeS

          You aren’t reaching in far enough, then. Put your shoulder into it!

          1. Look, I went into IT so I wouldn’t have to shove my arm up a cow’s rectum. Even if there are fancy cow bum gloves.

          2. Nephilium

            Even if there are fancy cow bum gloves.

            /golf clap

            That’s what you call rolling with the joke.

  44. The Late P Brooks

    doing my taxes showed me how much money we are really making, and I had to examine where our money is really going.

    Houses and kids are expensive, yo.

    This is not in any way directed at you, Mojeaux, but the “where does the money go?” question reminded me of a story recently about Denver teachers and how broke they all are. And why they need a raise.

    One of the teachers in the story said, “I have no idea where the money goes.”

    1. leon

      I think i found your problem.

      Step one: See if you have money

    2. Mojeaux

      I don’t like looking at all those credit card bills and being reminded every day that we bought a money pit we cannot get out from under.

      As Matt Paxton from Hoarders says, “We’re all 5 bad decisions away from shitting in a bucket.”

      1. A Leap at the Wheel

        Oh, look at miss fancy over here. Has a bucket and everything. Much be nice living so high on the hog.

        But seriously, shit in a hole and cover it back up.

        1. Pat

          But seriously, shit in a hole and cover it back up.

          As the Lord intended

          (When I was a church kid and people would ask me what my “life verse” was that’s the one I’d always cite)

          1. Festus

            Shitlord from birth!

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            Bookmarked. I’m going to bring that up at sunday school with my 9 year old this week.

          3. Now I want to see a Deut 23:13 sign guy to stand beside the John 3:16 sign guy at sporting events.

          4. invisible finger

            Would certainly be great if Kaepernick ever plays again. Or Jay Cutler.

          5. invisible finger

            Now I know why “Cats” has the Old Deuteronomy character.

      2. Festus

        *Stuffs Visa bill up his own ass*

      3. invisible finger

        And only 6 from shitting on the sidewalk.

        1. Mojeaux

          ? I left my shit in San Francisco… ?

  45. The Late P Brooks

    He was just hoping for “Thicc” fairy.

    Better than “unshaven bum” edit fairy.

    1. Festus

      I haven’t seen that one yet unless you are referring to me staring at my gimlet-eyed reflection of a ‘morn.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Is that the Asian one? I miss her.

    3. Not Adahn

      I don’t shave my bum, nor have I ever been asked to.

  46. The Late P Brooks

    Ultimately, after more than $100 million spent and nine years leading to the 2017 release, “many factors, rather than a single person or a single decision,” crippled the system’s release and “agency leadership did not take sufficient steps to ensure that this large and risky project would succeed,” the report said.

    Fingers were pointed.

    Excuses were made.

    1. Pope Jimbo

      No one was fired. No one pointed out that the head of the states IT department was a career hack who used to be on the staff of Gov. Mumbles and had no background in IT.

  47. Scruffy Nerfherder

    Me: Hey maybe I can take the wife to the movies this weekend.

    *looks at movies*

    Nope

    1. Chipwooder

      They Shall Not Grow Old is worth your time if you haven’t seen it.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        I want to see that but it’s not exactly Valentine’s material

    2. Nephilium

      I’ve got a cheap ticket to Alita, I may give it a chance. I remember watching the animated movie years ago, in the before times.

      /Hunter-Warrior

      1. Pan Zagloba

        As an honorably retired reservist in Weaboo Corps* I am obliged to attend.

        (retired = cashiered hwen Moe took over)

    3. hate_speech

      It’s been a fucking wasteland for awhile now. I almost never even check these days.

  48. Chipwooder

    This was a fun exchange, as highlighted at Insty:

    Benjamin Wittes

    Verified account

    @benjaminwittes
    Follow Follow @benjaminwittes
    More
    The man has a story to tell. And whatever Andrew McCabe may have done, nobody will ever take away from him that he led the FBI with dignity and honor at a moment of true crisis, surrounded by people at the White House and DOJ who lacked dignity and honor.

    4:54 AM – 14 Feb 2019

    Chuck Ross

    @ChuckRossDC
    Follow Follow @ChuckRossDC

    He was fired for lying to the FBI
    7:43 AM – 14 Feb 2019

    1. leon

      Reminds me of the journalist who attacked Tulsi Gabbard about not saying Assad is our Enemy. “How dare you refuse to acknowledge that when we have troops in syria”. Someone had to point out that our troops are there to combat ISIS not Assad.

      1. tarran

        In other words, the U.S. is assisting Assad by fighting his enemies….

        The U.S. military policy in the middle east is completely incoherent, yet those who want out of the quagmire are the morally depraved ones. 🙄

        1. Raphael

          Look, if we’re not the ones bombing the kids over there, it’s gonna be either one of those militia groups, Assad, Iranians, or even the…Russians. It might as well be us doing the dirty work. /prog

          1. tarran

            I see you are familiar Ken Shultz’ argument for the necessity of the U.S. bombing Libya despite it contravening both international law and the U.S. War Powers Act.

          2. Stinky Wizzleteats

            I actually kind of liked Ken when he was around here. He was pro that debacle?

          3. tarran

            Yes. He and I debated it at TOS, and basically his argument boiled down to if the U.S. didn’t do it then the French would have gone in, and letting them get the ‘influence’ was bad.

            It was an issue where Ken had come to an emotional position, and then was stuck with having to construct a post-facto rationalization to justify it. It didn’t go well for him.

          4. juris imprudent

            Or as the FDD report put it, the Iranians, Turks and Russians all have interests in Syria – therefore it is somehow in OUR interest to be there, thwarting their interests.

            Apparently you have to go to Harvard to understand that.

    2. Pope Jimbo

      But he lied for all the right reasons.

    3. Rebel Scum

      I chuckled.

  49. Mojeaux

    I work into the wee hours so Mr. Mojeaux gets the kids off to school. I had stopped making pumpkin pies for the kids’ breakfasts because I had a nasty cold, then I forgot. Mr. Mojeaux has always said it doesn’t help his routine get easier, so whatever. Last night, XX asks me if I’m going to start making pies again. “Eh, I don’t know. Doesn’t seem to make anything better for your dad.” Mr. Mojeaux says, “Well, akshually … ” I might say no to my kids, but I don’t say no when something makes his life easier.

    1. Raphael

      You are a very kind and great lady. Mr. Mojeaux is one lucky dude I’ll tell you hwat.

      1. Mojeaux

        Thank you, but it is easy to do things for such an awesome guy. I got lucky. I am difficult to live with, and he just rolls with it.

      2. Festus

        Thumbs up doubly for the Hank Hill!

  50. Rebel Scum

    Nazi Pelosi strikes again!

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that Congress should declare gun violence a “national emergency” and pass new gun laws to address the “epidemic” in the country.

    Pelosi was referencing President Trump’s desire to declare a “national emergency” to obtain extra funding to build a border wall.

    Pelosi hopes H.R. 8, the Bipartisan Background Checks Act, will pass out of the House by the end of this month. According to the text of the bill, “it shall be unlawful for any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not so licensed, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection.”

    She said anyone who tries to block the legislation should keep in mind that gun-control activists aren’t going anywhere.

    “We’re not going away. You might as well save yourself a lot of time by accepting that fact, that the law will be changed, that lives will be saved,” Pelosi said during an event Tuesday organized by MoCo Students for Change, a student-led anti-gun violence group, and Change the Ref.

    “It’s an epidemic. It’s an emergency. We should declare it an emergency and take great action immediately. Are you ready to accept the success we are about to have?” she added.

    Yes, yes. Gun-grabbers are relentless. Maybe you should stop advocating things that are in direct violation of your oath of office. Propose an amendment to the Constitution or gtfo with your illegal legislation.

    1. leon

      The thing that i think is interesting is how readily they will point out the “We can do that too” but then continue on with things like trying to remove the president via 25th amendment.

    2. ChipsnSalsa

      How many licenses could a licensee license to a non-licensed?

    3. Chipwooder

      I’m not going away either, bitch.

    4. Raphael

      How about no, you mendacious shit-weasel?

    5. Gustave Lytton

      Pelosi can thank her wrinkly neck that political violence in this is mostly confined to the left in this country. So far. But she and her friends and deranged associates keep trying to push and push and push.

    6. B.P.

      Congress doesn’t need to declare a national emergency to pass legislation.

    7. R C Dean

      We should declare it an emergency and take great action immediately. Are you ready to accept the success we are about to have?

      Is it just me, or does sound like something would come out of Trump’s mouth? He really is living rent-free in their heads.

  51. Brochettaward

    Putin was taken down by a strong woman. Just not a Democrat or a feminist.

    Also…would.

    1. leon

      I was reading about the Kursk incident which occured only a few months after Putin was first elected president… in 2000.

    2. Oh, would for sure. To be fair to Putin, if you can hang with an Olympic medalist in judo who’s half your age, you’re doing pretty well.

  52. Chipwooder

    When even Obama advisors say Karla Marx has no idea what she’s talking about….

    Steven Rattner

    @SteveRattner
    This may be the most economically ignorant statement I have ver read.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    @AOC
    Anything is possible: today was the day a group of dedicated, everyday New Yorkers & their neighbors defeated Amazon’s corporate greed, its worker exploitation, and the power of the richest man in the world. https://twitter.com/jdavidgoodman/status/1096087641953632258

    1,131
    7:27 AM – Feb 15, 2019

    1. commodious spittoon

      Shorter Democrats: “Yeah, we all think it, but you’re not supposed to say it!”

      1. Raphael

        Somebody forgot to her ix-nay on the ommunism-cay.

    2. “worker exploitation”

      YEAH! Much better for those people to be unemployed!

      1. Nephilium

        Well yeah… that way they get to keep all of their government bennies.

      2. invisible finger

        Exploiting the unemployed is nobler.

    3. invisible finger

      She’s proud they bribed them and then reneged on the deal rather than not even bribe them in the first place?

      1. Festus

        Cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face is the the new artisanal mustard. Get with the program, Granpa…

  53. Rasilio

    Wait, powdered bread? Isn’t that just flour?

    1. Or breadcrumbs.

      Either way, some assembly required.

    2. Nephilium

      The All-In-One frightens me more.

    1. “Any faculty who feels indimidated by these shall report to the new trustees for special disposition.*”

      *Special disposition being defined as removal from the faculty and dissillusion of the programs which produced such useless people.

    2. Pat

      The smirk heard ’round the world

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      “although campus officials denounced the posters”

      Why?

      1. Because they’re threatened by any sign of ideological nonconformity with their dogma. If the students were to be exposed to other sidea, the weaknesses in progressive orthodixy and its unveiled marxist underpinnings would become more obvious, along with the devillificiation of the ‘other’ views.

        1. ^This. The crux of their strategy is to attack the legitimacy of other ideas rather than the superiority of their own. IOW it’s not that the Progressive position is a better answer to a given question among a collection of peer contenders, it’s that the Progressive position is the only correct position, and any others are immoral or result from ignorance. Progressives aren’t the only ones who do this, but it does seem to be a popular strategy among self-labeled Progressives.

          1. I’m glad the intent of my statment made it through, because that is one horribly typed comment I made.

      2. kbolino

        Contra UCS, I think it’s fear. They’re afraid of the students. Not all of them, of course, but the activist ones. And probably some of the parents, too. Even though the schools weathered things like anti-abortion protests with gory imagery just fine no more than 10 years ago, now the administrators cower. The program of Federal student aid has been so thoroughly ingrained into the culture of college that the universities do not need to compete on erstwhile notions of merit (scholastics, research, connections, even athletics) but instead compete on the “experience” a student will have. To the coddled children entering college today, the experience would be diminished by unpleasant speech, words, or images.

        1. We may both give them too much credit. To assume that they think big and are not just small, easily outraged people who think no further than the initial emotive flush through their minds.

          1. kbolino

            Perhaps. I also think the tail is wagging the dog at many of these places, where the most emotive and most vocal members of the administration, faculty, and student body are driving these actions. But I do think it’s fear that keeps the rest from speaking out or keeping a lid on it.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            Yes, a lot of the administration are young indoctrinated recently graduated mushheads who at the least are sympathetic to the student idiots, if not actively engaged in egging them on.

  54. Festus

    Fun song for Glibs! https://youtu.be/VYMFEHlr6Qw

  55. The Late P Brooks

    dissillusion

    “Dissolution”?

    1. I don’t spel to gud.

    2. Gustave Lytton

      Mmmm…30 year old Barbara Babcock…

    1. robc

      Was expecting 70s/80s music video.

      1. Festus

        Naw, just a sardonic kid that believes in weird shit that seems to have the pulse of the nation, not the terrible band.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          *sensibly chuckles to self*
          *remember he doesn’t know what band Festus is talking about*
          *scrolls up*
          *reads slowly, mouthing the sounds of each letter*
          *realization dawns*

          YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH RENEGADE IS A MASTERPIECE

          *remembers the 50% of Styx songs written by Dennis DeYoung*
          never mind

          1. Festus

            I REALLY liked “Equinox” when I was 14 so you are within safe harbours, here.

  56. Yusef drives a Kia

    Chrome updates fucked up my phone’s browser,
    Beware

    1. Festus

      My hard drive crashed a couple weeks ago so I’m using Chrome. What happened?

      1. prolefeed

        Chrome had some issues that kept locking up my computer, something about bin not found or whatever. I tried several things. Then I switched back to Firefox.

        End of issues.

      2. Yusef drives a Kia

        I can barely plst, and the down arrows take me to the very bottom of the page, not the latest comment like before

        1. MikeS

          Get Firefox

  57. Mojeaux

    That feeling when your only Google alerts are to pirate sites where your books are hosted.

    1. Festus

      That feeling when your only friends are Glibs.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        *clinks beer mug*

        1. Festus

          Bitter-sweet when you are holding them both in either hand…

          1. Jarflax

            Drinking bitter hmm?

      2. Mojeaux

        That feeling when your only friends are Glibs and that’s pretty awesome.

        1. Festus

          Can’t complain. Not really.

          1. Oh come on, I’m sure if we got creative we can find ways to complain.

            Wait, I don’t actually want that end result.

          2. Festus

            I do miss my golfing buds. They all moved away or started families or somesuch.

      3. Rasilio

        Glibs have friends?

        1. The other socks who post to Glibs.

          Admittedly this means we’re all just talking to ourself.

  58. Something kept looking off about This house. Took me forever to figure it out.

    It’s not symmetrical.

    1. Jarflax

      Needs more overhang for the murderholes

    2. MikeS

      The big windows on one side and tiny on the other makes my head twitch.

      In a former life I was a architectural drafter. I was working with a client on his new house and he wanted a situation like this (but not as glaring). He said he didn’t want a window on the one wall because since the kids’ bunk bed would be going there anyway, he could save the money of the window. I reminded him that there wouldn’t always be a bunk bed there and mentioned the lack of symmetry from the outside. All to no avail.

      It drove me bonkers that this guys was spending ~ $150K on a brand new house and was ignoring aesthetics in favor of saving $200. SMDH The customer is always right.

      1. Suthenboy

        My brother, one of the top civil engineers in the country, has never said the word ‘architect’ without preceding it with the word ‘faggyass’.

        1. MikeS

          Thank you for that. Although, coming from a nerdyass engineer, I don’t think it carries much weight.

      2. Fourscore

        Note to self:

        Blindfold MikeS when he comes in the yard.

        1. MikeS

          If I start going into convulsions, be sure to grab the tater tot hotdish before I drop it.

  59. Stinky Wizzleteats

    Journalist who revealed AOC put her boyfriend on her staff has his Twatter account locked. I’m sure it was just an accident.

  60. Festus

    “Journalist” “Boyfriend” “Locked” Are you tempting me Satan?

    1. Not satan, but maybe Brooks.

      1. Festus

        That’s lucky #3!

      1. You can actually chop most of that off appears to work fine

    1. If I tell you that the site is blocked by work, will you provide context for the question?

      1. MikeS

        Lady on subway having a meltdown that none of the guys on the train will move to let her pass…or sit…not entirely sure what it was she wanted so badly to do.

        1. Rhywun

          That’s the woman some wags were claiming is Knoblauch or whatever her name is.

    2. Festus

      Christ, what an asshole?

    3. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Definitely aren’t any gentle ladies

      1. Festus

        I have to wonder who or what placed that hair across her ass. (full disclosure, I was banned from the local paper’s comment section for asking the same question)

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      Watched without sound, but looking at the video it reminds my of Hitler giving a speech with all the head movements.

      Living with all that rage can not be healthy.

      1. Festus

        Feels good to her.

    5. Creosote Achilles

      One of the things ‘feminists’ don’t seem to get is that the price of equality is that it is no longer the job of random men who don’t know them to make their life easier or to put their health and well-being on the line to defend them. You want equality? That means if a guy is being an ass to you, you better handle yo’ business your own damn self.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        That’s why feminism is not about equality, it’s about whatever suits the needs of university-educated white women.

        1. commodious spittoon

          Sometimes that means publicly flogging a smirking high schooler because he reminds you of an ex, sometimes it means putting a couple black athletes through the legal wringer because a little white cheerleader cried to her boyfriend that their threesome hookup the night before wasn’t consensual. Sometimes it means being raped on a rooftop in Haiti and apologizing for your rapist, sometimes it means tearing into dissident feminists for being exclusionary. Whatever the case, the cause is surely evil white men.

          1. Festus

            Well that was fucking dark.

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Someone may have said “Sometimes it’s hard to be a woman”…

          3. Jarflax

            “giving all her love to a transman”

  61. The Other Kevin

    Part of the budget deal that Trump just signed designates the Indiana Dunes as a national park, which is what Indiana congressfolks have been wanting for decades. Trump truly is a monster.

    1. Festus

      He probably thinks that there is spice in those dunes.

      1. Dr. Fronkensteen

        The spice must flow.

        1. Festus

          I read that in the Hair’s voice, God help me.

  62. Dr. Fronkensteen

    Bill Weld has entered the Republican primary. I guess we’ll have a choice between a person who upholds libertarianish values and Bill Weld.

    1. MikeS

      Haha! It’s funny because it’s true!

    2. A Leap at the Wheel

      If you thought the Jeb Bush campaign had too much grass roots support, this dumb fucker will be right up your ally.

  63. Brochettaward

    Bill Weld’s narcissism may match Trumps. Like, no one cares about you, Bill.

    Also, it’s laughable that there were “libertarians” who thought Weld was genuinely interested in expanding the LP and not simply an establishment plant to try and fuck over Trump.

    1. Festus

      Doesn’t this guy have a slot-car race to attend?

    2. Rhywun

      I can’t wait for his listening tour!

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Trump’s going to eat that alcoholic uncle looking fuck alive.

      1. Rhywun

        alcoholic uncle

        Yikes, right?! Have another one, rummy.

    4. ChipsnSalsa

      Will Hillary be his VP pick? Then if he does get elected he can step down and she can take her rightful place as Queen President of the country.

      1. Festus

        Peepul still beleeeve!

    5. Pan Zagloba

      I can’t wait for Bill Weld It’s Happening gif!

    6. Gustave Lytton

      Weld’s announcement is likely to trigger angeruncontrollable laughter among President Trump and his supporters

      “We need the opposite of socialism,” he said. “In the federal budget, the two most important tasks are to cut spending and to cut taxes — and spending comes first.”

      Weld laid out his positions on other issues, calling for less government intervention in health care and for more intervention to prevent climate change.

      And Weld shits his own bed on the way out. Cut spending…by spending limitless amounts on a phantom problem and wrecking the economy & society in the process.

      The fawning local media to sure trying to prop goober boy as a credible candidate? What’s his position on gun control these days? Oh right, that would sink him in the primaries right there.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        He’s pro gun control?

        1. tarran

          He’s a Massachusetts Republican. Of course he’s for gun control and nationalized health care.

        2. Gustave Lytton

          https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160826/libertarian-vp-candidate-william-f-weld-continues-to-be-anti-gun

          The five-shot rifle, that’s a standard military rifle. The problem is if you attach a clip to it so it can fire more shells and if you remove the pin so that it becomes an automatic weapon. And those are independent criminal offenses. That’s when they become essentially a weapon of mass destruction.

          1. Gustave Lytton
          2. R C Dean

            The five-shot rifle, that’s a standard military rifle.

            Umm, a hundred years ago, maybe.

            if you remove the pin so that it becomes an automatic weapon

            I think if you remove the pin it becomes a decorative accessory.

          3. Stinky Wizzleteats

            There’s quite a bit wrong there.

  64. The Late P Brooks

    W T F ?

    But public sentiment is unsympathetic to those who voluntarily left the West for Islamic State’s proto-state, however traumatized they are today. When Begum and her friends left four years ago, top U.K. police officials promised that if they returned, they would be treated as victims. This week, they made it clear that the offer has expired.

    But the refusal to repatriate British citizens, even if legally pragmatic and emotionally satisfying, is irresponsible. Many of Islamic State’s European recruits are second-generation children of Arab or Asian immigrants. Abandoning them to their fate or stripping them of citizenship, which the U.K. government has done in some cases, implies that their status as Europeans is contingent. It highlights, for British kids of minority backgrounds, that their Europeanness is fragile; that if they make mistakes, they may not get a second chance.

    A mistake? Sliding through an icy intersection and knocking over a mailbox is a mistake. Travelling to the middle east to provide material support and assistance to an entity which has declared itself to be at war with your country is… something different.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Well, the Brits abolished capital punishment, so the worst that treason can bring is a fine and a couple of years of living better than back in Syria b

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      So let people return who are both traitors and true potentially violent dangers. The author must be out of his damn mind.

      1. wdalasio

        Or she’s just on the other side.

    3. Rhywun

      barring the door would feed the next round of jihadist recruiting

      I guess they found the terrorism forever loophole. *facepalm*

      1. R C Dean

        How, exactly, would telling people it is an irrevocable choice encourage more people to make that choice? It might not reduce the numbers, but I can’t see it incrasing the numbers.

        1. Rhywun

          You don’t think the number of homegrown radicalized terrorists will increase if they welcome them back home from training abroad with open arms? You’re more optimistic than I am.

          1. R C Dean

            I was responding to the notion that telling people who leave to go jihadi can’t come back will mean more people will leave to go jihadi. I hadn’t really thought about whether barring the door would also increase the number of people who go jihadi but don’t leave the country. But you are correct; letting battle-hardened jihadis back into the country is likely to increase jihadi recruiting.

          2. Rhywun

            Ah OK I misunderstood your comment.

    4. wdalasio

      Begum has even declared that “she has no regrets” about committing treason. But, I guess treason is just incidental in post-Britain Britain.

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder

      You made your bed, now lie in it.

  65. The Late P Brooks

    The public understandably fears that returnees would pose a security threat, but there are legal ways, based on more recent legislation, to deal with that danger. Britain’s police and intelligence services are regarded as the finest in Europe, and have extensive protective measures used to monitor citizens who are not imprisoned but are deemed to pose security risks.

    Oh, okay, then.

    1. Festus

      Traitor/Freedom-fighter, what’s the dif? Just ask Justin!

  66. Michael

    The two “persons of interest” that were questioned by the CPD in the Smollett case have now been arrested:

    https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/430230-police-arrest-two-suspects-in-jussie-smollett-attack

    I almost feel bad for the guy at this point. This idiotic stunt very likely just caused his career arc to plummet into Randy Quaid territory.

    1. Festus

      I dunno.The story keeps changing so quickly. One thing for sure, Jussie is full of shit.

    2. Damn white supremacist Nigerians!

    3. AlexinCT

      You see the CPD come out however and walk back the report that they were now investigating this whole thing as a hoax? They were so freaked out by the possible lash back that they even cock blocked their own story at first.

      There is no way this is not a hoax. And they will be under huge pressure to let the whole thing just die off so the people that use this as an example of how racist everyone else is be able to keep doing so.

      1. Michael

        I don’t think the CPD will cave under any such “pressure”. The department has been constantly pilloried (however rightly in certain cases) by the very same people that want the Smollett thing to die quietly, and I’m sure they’re eager to punch back in any way they can. Also, arrests wouldn’t be made in such a high profile case if formal charges weren’t to follow soon afterward, so I’m really curious how this will play out.

        1. Rhywun

          Yeah, we’re getting down to brass tacks now. Something’s brewing.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Probably using possible charges against the two to get movement. Either they are charged, in which case CPD takes credit for how quickly they wrapped it up. Or they roll over on Smollett, provide incontrovertible proof of a hoax, and CPD goes from there. CPD is covered whichever way it goes.

    4. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I’d feel sorry for him if he had picked a less pernicious lie.

  67. B.P.

    Two arrested concerning that Jussie Smollett thinger…

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/two-people-arrested-in-connection-with-attack-on-jussie-smollett/ar-BBTDA3l?ocid=spartanntp

    “The men, who police have been identified as Nigerian brothers, were in custody after being picked up at the Chicago O’Hare airport Wednesday.”

    1. B.P.

      D’oh… I totally refreshed and everything.

      1. AlexinCT

        Yeah, sure you did…

  68. The Late P Brooks

    I almost feel bad for the guy at this point. This idiotic stunt very likely just caused his career arc to plummet into Randy Quaid territory.

    Sometimes you grab the tar baby, sometimes the tar baby grabs you.

  69. MikeS

    It’s official:

    Trump declares national emergency at border

    President Donald Trump said Friday, Feb. 15, that he will declare a national emergency as a means to circumvent Congress and build additional border barriers. He is seeking to secure about $6.5 billion more in funding than Congress has approved.

    This is a really bad idea. Unless the Republicans plan on holding on to the presidency for eternity, I guess.

    1. Honest question – do you seriously believe him not doing so would have made a future president any less likely to do so for something else?

      1. MikeS

        I think the party who professes to only want to follow the constitution will have no leg to stand on when they shoe is on the other foot.

        1. And that’s different from before how?

          1. MikeS

            Past bad actions don’t make this bad action the right thing to do.

          2. Which was a different point from the ‘hope for an eternal presidency’ remark.

            The precedent on misuse of national emergencies was set decades ago. There are dozens of active ‘Emergencies’ that have been going on for years.

            Should this sort of thing be corrected? Yes.

            Will congress do so? No

            Does the future inevitability of someone else winning the election matter to whether this current issue is being handled well? No.

          3. MikeS

            I honestly didn’t know (or I’ve forgotten) the “Emergencies” declaration had been (ab)used to such an extent.

            Who (and why) has used it on a similar level to this?

          4. Raven Nation

            58 SoEs have been declared since 1979, 31 are still active. There is one from Carter, 6 from Clinton, 10 from W, 13 from Obama. How much they continue to affect life varies.

            List here: http://time.com/5496270/presidents-history-national-emergency/

            TW1: Time magazine

            TW2: autostart vid

          5. Raven Nation

            Correction: 11 from W

          6. Fatty Bolger

            It goes back to Woodrow Wilson. And Congress codified it 40 years ago.

      2. Brochettaward

        Haven’t past presidents done it already, anyway?

        1. AlexinCT

          Obama did it, but then it was to save us all from the evil rethuglicans that were blocking his agenda…

          1. Dr. Fronkensteen

            They blocked his agenda but he should be credited with the economic recovery that started under his administration.

          2. B.P.

            I’m in awe that there are sitting Democrats who, today, are crediting Obama with the good things that are happening to the economy.

          3. He can get credit only if you count the repeal of the regulations he put in place that were stifling the economy.

          4. AlexinCT

            When all you have is criminal activities, envy driven politics, and “we must resist orange man”, you are left with making up shit. A desperate need to hide the Obama administration weaponizing and then turning lose the US intelligence and Justice apparatus, turns into Trump Russia collusion. Trump’s congress rolling back a ton of brutally destructive regulation created by Obama’s pen and giving people a tax cut resulting in economic growth we were told was never gonna happen, turns into Obama’s economy. An energy sector that managed to nut just survive but thrive under the “we can’t drill ourselves out of this mess” Obama energy plan, turns into the US is killing Gaia. The list goes on and on.

            All that is good is the work of the SJW morons. All that is bad is what they can’t take credit for.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Lawyers, start your engines!

      1. Can they file a pre-emptory appeal to skip the 9th circus and put it in front of SCOTUS before the Hawai’ian judge files his injunction?

        1. Gustave Lytton

          The volcanos demand a sacrifice!

      2. Festus

        There were many “National Emergencies”, most of them still in place but somehow I’d aver that Trump’s will become a lighting rod of discontent.

    3. Dr. Fronkensteen

      This is a bad idea. You know the next Democratic president is going to declare the climate change is an existential threat and therefore a national emergency. Not to mention gun violence, racism, and God know what else. This would take the power of the purse away from the House.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Too late. They’ll do it anyways now, like they did with the filibuster rules.

      2. Festus

        Die, Ginsberg, Die!

      3. R C Dean

        You know the next Democratic president is going to declare the climate change is an existential threat and therefore a national emergency. Not to mention gun violence, racism, and God know what else.

        And would do so regardless of anything Trump does.

        Its a bad idea, but not for that reason.

        1. Festus

          ^^^ This guy gets it. It doesn’t matter what that idiot does, when they regain the reins, all bets are off.

        2. MikeS

          I suppose you are right.

          Sometimes I’m not cynical enough.

          1. Festus

            I’m old and drunk enough to not really give a hoot.

    4. Like I said yesterday, the majority of both TEAMs desire a monarch. The only limiting factor was the idea that the monarch had to be sympathetic to their causes; now that that’s been tossed in the porta-potty all bets are off.

      Congress has been completely useless for a while now, so we’re stuck basically electing a monarch every 4 years whose only check on power is the whim of whichever Federal judge was shopped by the opposition. Packing the courts will eventually render them impotent… so… yeah. Here we are.

      Representative Constitutional Republicanism was good while it lasted.

      1. I’m okay with a monarch – if it’s me. Anyone else might get it wrong.

        1. Festus

          I’ve a spare clipboard, friend.

      2. I’m not anti monarch. If the monarch turns into a tyrant, the people have much more incentive to kill him and appoint somebody less cruel. “government is us” prevents a lot of political violence.

        1. Festus

          It has come to this? A libertarian wishing for a monarchy? Dogs and cats fucking in the streets, I tells ya.

      3. Stinky Wizzleteats

        So Augustan Rome then only minus the killer orgies and the vomitorium.

        1. *sigh* Look, the vomitorium was just the exit from an amphitheater, which had a great deal of throughput.

  70. The Late P Brooks

    Plotters
    TW: Salon

    The academic laboratory of the Venezuelan coup has the highest academic pedigree of all — it’s housed at Harvard. Under the auspices of the university’s Center for International Development, the Venezuela project of the Harvard Growth Lab (there are growth labs for other countries as well, including India and Sri Lanka) is full of academic heavyweights, including Lawrence Summers (who once famously argued that Africa was underpolluted). Among the leaders of the growth lab is Ricardo Hausmann, now an adviser to Juan Guaido who has “already drafted a plan to rebuild the nation, from economy to energy.”

    ———–

    The Growth Lab website provides some other ideas of what Hausmann’s plan likely includes: Chavez’s literacy, health care, and food subsidy “Missions,” a growth lab paper argues, have not reduced poverty (and, implicitly, should go). Another paper argues that the underperformance of the Venezuelan oil industry was due to the country’s lack of appeal to foreign investors (hence Venezuela should implicitly be made more appealing to this all-important group). A third paper argues that “weak property rights” and the “flawed functioning of markets” are harming the business environment — no doubt strengthening property rights and getting those markets functioning again will be in the plan. If this sounds like the same kind of neoliberal prescription that devastated Latin American countries for generations and was imposed and maintained through torture and dictatorship from Chile and Brazil to Venezuela itself, that is because the motivation is to bring back the “wonderful Venezuela of old.”

    Obviously, a libertarian overthrow. Neoliberal economics is worse than slavery.

    1. B.P.

      Salon is the perfect name for a platform for detached, haughty assholes who know what’s best for everyone else.

    2. Rhywun

      Inside the neoliberal laboratory preparing for the theft of Venezuela’s economy

      Um… I think Venezuela’s economy just jetted off to Turkey a few days ago. There’s nothing left to thieve.

    3. Dr. Fronkensteen

      Since it wouldn’t be a libertarian overthrow I would be cautious about the solutions of these top men as well. Certainly better than outright socialism but I’d be worried about assumptions made about successful economies in these plans which could backfire and give free markets a bad name by association.

  71. The Late P Brooks

    Congress has been completely useless for a while now

    What about comic relief?

    1. Pelosi and the Vaudeville Players?

    1. Dr. Fronkensteen

      And Chris “thrill up my leg” Matthews did not toward Obama?

      1. That’s different because LightBringer