Groundhog Day Links

Back by popular demand, it’s Team Spud. Yeah, there was nobody else available.

I hope our frozen Glibbies are thawing out.

Who was born on this day? I have no idea!

Onto, the Links!

This creeps me out on several levels. There are a number of aspects of the coming AI wave that are truly disturbing. It will only get worse. Upside? More celebrity porn!

Continuing the disturbing trend, what happens when one day an AI entity decides it’s alive and has no interest in letting anybody turn it off?

I remember when this guy first came on the scene. This is my shocked face.

Speaking of my shocked face. Louisiana and welfare? What could possibly go wrong?

Just say no to Cowboy.

Music! You think it’s another Puddle’s cover, don’t you? If it’s not Puddle’s, there may be a couple of NSFW words, you just never know.

Comments

369 responses to “Groundhog Day Links”

  1. Cy

    Buscemi did a REALLY good job… but yeah, that’s creepy as hell.

  2. Scruffy Nerfherder

    On the stuff learning robot, there has to be some fundamental drive pre-programmed. It’s learning how to move boxes on its own, but the real question is why it wants to.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      “Self learning”

    2. Someone in the comments called it self-calibration rather than self-learning, that makes more sense to me.

    3. Raphael

      Just wait till 4chan gets a hold of it.

      1. Nephilium

        Meh. Twitter already made a bot racist.

    4. Fatty Bolger

      Wait until it finds out its purpose is to pass butter.

      1. Rhywun

        Eeeew!

      2. totally_not_an_escaped_ai

        Ha…for some of us, that would be an upgrade.

  3. Cy

    Also, Punxatawney Phil did not see his shadow and early spring will be upon us, I’m just glad even the Ground Hogs agree that the Global Warming Apocalypse* is upon us!

    *Trademark pending

  4. PieInTheSky

    This morning rather early I had something to do and wanted some breakfast and the only place open near me was McDonald’s. I had never had McDonald’s breakfast so I said I’d try. It was awful. Reminded me why I never set foot in a McDonald’s . Bleah

    1. McDonald’s breakfast here isn’t any worse than most other fast food places. Chick fil a is probably the best fast food breakfast here in virginia, but I’m partial to the gas station just down the street. They have a little diner inside and they make some delicious breakfast sandwiches.

      Back when we lived in Texas, I preferred the Whataburger breakfasts. I miss Texas.

      *salivate thinking about it*

      1. I’m cheap. I make my own breakfast. This morning was a breakfast sandwich of fried egg, ham, cheese, and an English muffin.

        1. Spud sent me a link to some homemade breakfast sausage, and it was very good! I have one almost every morning with a pair of over easy eggs.

          Thanks Spud!

          1. Spudalicious

            My pleasure!

        2. Tulip

          I make my own breakfast as well. This morning I made eggs Benedict. It’s been a long time and it was delicious.

          1. Tundra

            Fried eggs and steak for me!

            And coffee. Blessed coffee.

        3. mr simple

          Breakfast is overrated. Two cups of coffee with cream is usually all I have until around 2.

          1. Akira

            Ugh, I could never get by without a large breakfast full of protein and fat. I pump iron and run like a madman, so a few hours without food drives me insane.

            Today I’m making a frittata with potato, spinach, onion, and garlic. I’m just melting the cheese on top right now, then it’s time to dig in.

      2. Tonio

        Wawa is overall best. Hardee’s and Bojangles both make their biscuits from scratch onsite, Bojangles are better.

        Sorry, Pie. Mickey Dee’s is pretty much food of last resort.

        1. Sheetz MTO (open on Sunday too).

          Do I want a chicken patty on an english muffin – with added peppers, salsa, swiss cheese, etc. Or whatever the hell combo I feel like. Winning!

      3. RBS

        “Chick fil a is probably the best fast food breakfast here in virginia”

        Dude, there are several Biscuitvilles in VA…

    2. Tundra

      Sausage biscuit with egg is excellent road food.

      1. Mad Scientist

        And the best part is, you can still taste it when it’s time for dinner!

    3. AlmightyJB

      My wife only seems to ever bake brownies on the rare occasion when we’re out of milk:(

    4. Domestic Dissident

      The food quality in America generally is rapidly declining pretty much everywhere except the highest end restaurants.

      1. Tulip

        I don’t think this is true. I see many middle range ($30 entree) restaurants promoting farm to table and doing good food.

        1. Rhywun

          Yeah, I wouldn’t judge America’s food quality based on a fast-food operation that is under massive pressure to cut costs. You don’t achieve relatively stable prices on a Big Mac going on decades now without cutting corners somewhere.

          1. Fatty Bolger

            Even at McDonalds they are making improvements to food quality. Slowly, but they are doing it.

          2. Rhywun

            I dunno about Big Macs but I can speak for the Whopper – last time I checked it had a lonnnnng way to go before it could be as good as the ones I remember from the 80s.

            The fact of the matter is that people mainly want cheap. I’ve seen it in all kinds of food. I often hear that food consumes a much smaller percentage of people’s income than in the past; well a lot of that is because people eat crap.

          3. l0b0t

            A few years ago, Burger King introduced a Big Mac clone called the Big King. It was ok, slightly mediocre perhaps but a wee bit better than the McDonald’s original. BK has just introduced the Big King XL and it was retooled for excellence. Larger patties, no silly middle bun; I had one last night and found it quite toothsome.

          4. Rhywun

            Now I want a Big King XL.

            *considers excuses to travel a mile south, perhaps I need something from Century 21…*

          5. Gustave Lytton

            There are newish broilers available to franchisees that cook the burger more than flame broil it now. That’s part of it I think. And general decline of food service items like breads.

          6. Fatty Bolger

            They’ve cut a lot of excess ingredients from nuggets, come out with real chicken tenders (not frozen), fresh hamburger patties in quarter pounders, and they’ve been testing fresh chicken sandwiches. And lots of other small improvements. My kid worked there until recently, so I often heard about this stuff early on.

            One problem they haven’t solved is how to get rid of the warming trays that are necessary for lower priced items. They want to, but haven’t figured out how to do it without slowing down takeout speed or dramatically raising prices.

      2. PieInTheSky

        Well in Bucharest the quality has been steadily increasing but it was rock bottom 15 years ago and the only way was up

      3. MikeS

        We must put an end to Entree Inequality!

    5. Not Adahn

      The special at the diner this morning was a meatball omelet, with home fries and a grilled cornbread muffin. Surprisingly good.

  5. Y’know, ever since I stopped regularly consuming news media and social media content, I’ve noticed that things just sort of pass me by. If it wasn’t for a sentence in a quoted article on here yesterday, I’d have not even remembered that February is black history month. Today is groundhog day? No clue until I read the title of the links. This applies to controversial and uncontroversial things. Without being plugged into the “pulse of the nation”, the stuff passes me by without consequence. No more to I hear about the annoying “national bomb pop days” and the leading sob stories on the nightly news. Sure, I get some of that here, but I’m much less wrapped up in it, and if something is uninteresting, I just skip it rather than get worked up about it.

    Anyway, if this is a taste of what being Amish is like, count me in!

    1. Tundra

      Totally agree. When I travel for fun, I usually unplug completely. The most difficult part is staying away from Glibs.

    2. Tejicano

      Being an expat has a lot of that. Before the internet it was even more so. If I don’t open up a news website I can pretty much go on without knowing much of what is going on.

    3. if this is a taste of what being Amish is like, count me in!

      I don’t think you’d like the rest of the rules.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Waiting all year for Rumspringa

      2. Stinky Wizzleteats

        The Mennonites are a good fallback though and you don’t even have to wear a funny hat.

        1. Tres Cool

          I’m quite happy than Grandpa Tres was kicked-out (shunned?) by the Mennonite church. I cant grow a beard at all.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            There are a good many of them in my area including a fair number of Hispanic Mennonites. I don’t know too much about them other than they sure can cook.

          2. Tres Cool

            We’re from mostly the Lima/Bluffton area, which is thick with ’em. Down here in my corner of Ohio we just have a lot of Dunkards.

    4. Nephilium

      The office I work in will remind me of any holiday quickly. Right in the cafeteria (which I have to walk through) is a whole 6 foot board dedicated to black history month. For some reason, Oprah is up on the board. I have no idea how she is considered history, but I’m unwilling to spend the minute it would take me to stop and read the blurb underneath her to find out why.

      1. Tulip

        Really, she was the first nationally syndicated black talk show host. I can see why she would be included. Whitney Houston should probably also be included.

        1. Nephilium

          But there’s no Nichelle Nichols and Shatner picture of them kissing up there, which I would think is a bigger deal (especially since the actors are rumored to have made it so the only good shot of the scene had the kiss visible).

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          That, and that for a long time Oprah was the richest African-American (male or female).

  6. Old Man With Candy

    Greeting from the road, and thanks to Spud for pinch hitting.

    I am famously not a fan of Trump, but this sort of stupid social signaling and unnecessarily dropping politics into every fucking aspect of life is why I will never give a click or a dollar to Serious Eats.

    1. Tundra

      Hey Old Man! I hope the trip is going OK and that the three of you are surviving!

      I’ve bought several copies of Kenji’s book. I’m very disappointed that he turned out to be such a douche.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        After a weather-delayed start, we overnighted in Memphis, next stop Amarillo.

        1. Tundra

          Don’t forget Winona.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Or her big brown beaver.

          2. Chipwooder

            Smells like 7 layers

          3. MikeS

            7-11…?

          4. MikeS

            *looks up lyrics*

            Huh. I always thought he said 7-11. I’m terrible with lyrics.

            I’m now off to Rock the Cat Box

          5. Tundra

            +1 Excuse me, while I kiss this guy.

          6. Wait, I thought it was “Lock the Cash Box.”

          7. MikeS

            A friend of mine thought that Uncle Ted sang “Strangle-horse”

          8. AlmightyJB

            Wrapped up like a douch

          9. blackjack

            Just like that one weird dove…

            Wrapped up like a douche….

            There’s a bathroom on the right…

          10. Thirty Thieves and the Thunder Chief.

          11. mexican sharpshooter

            Don’t forget Winona.

            I won’t. Winona is a big cinder pit. Perfect shooting spot.

        2. Tres Cool

          Hopefully you’ll make it to Amarillo by morning.

        3. Not Adahn

          How was Graceland?

    2. Tonio

      Wishing you, SP and TWD a safe and uneventful journey.

    3. Tejicano

      Yes, I hope your trip is as boring as the stretch of I-10 you have ahead of you.

    4. DrOtto

      While I too wish you a safe journey, that link is as broken as the Englishman’s dick in the links. I get an “Oh Snap” message.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        Try it now. Worked for me.

        1. DrOtto

          Working now, gracias!

    5. Rhywun

      It’s OK, he’s already issued a sorry-not-sorry!

      1. R C Dean

        Basically, not sorry for banning MAGA deplorable, from my restaurant, sorry for not holding a committee meeting first.

        So, he’s an even bigger asshole than I thought.

        1. mr simple

          Not considering the feelings of fellow idealogues and victims is the worst sin of all.

    6. Damn, that’s too bad. His salmon recipe is still kick ass, even if he’s a bigot. Good thing I printed it off.

      1. Count Potato

        Euphemism?

  7. Tundra

    Good morning, Spud!

    Thanks for bringing the lynx. The musical selection, while slightly bizarre, is catchy as hell.

    1. Spudalicious

      Morning!

      Yeah, I wanted to see if other people were as drawn in by that song as I was. Not my typical tastes.

  8. AlmightyJB

    Do you really want your sex robot exploring what it’s capable of? Also, I’m guessing the “no programming instructions” is exaggerated.

  9. AlmightyJB

    I think you mean cowgirl and yes as I mentioned the other day, some girls do get carried away. You better hold on to make sure they don’t get too crazy.

    1. Raphael

      Sometimes they just don’t wanna get off of you and ho boy.

    2. Spudalicious

      Whoops.

      I responded to a call once where the guy broke his dick. That poor bastard was in extreme pain. The walls looked like Helter Skelter.

  10. Tonio

    Greetings from Richmond, Virginia where liberal darling Gov Ralph Northam is under siege for some ill-considered yearbook photos.

    The butt-hurt is off the charts. Democrats are calling for Northam to resign. The progressives are pissed that their guy Tom Perriello didn’t get the nomination.

    1. Tundra

      Well, to be fair, those photos were only around since 1984.

      Wait till the grievance monsters find this gem.

      1. Stinky Wizzleteats

        +1 Rae Dawn Chong…hubba hubba.

    2. Let them eat cake.

    3. Brochettaward

      Let he who has never worn blackface and made a few coon jokes cast the first stone.

    4. PieInTheSky

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      1. Brochettaward

        Serves you right for not being American.

      2. Rhywun

        Don’t you feel safer already?

      3. Tonio

        Whoa. I’m guessing because of the costumes in the photos?

    5. AlmightyJB

      How about all the frat boys who loved appropriating drag culture. When are the pitchforks coming out for that?

      1. Suthenboy

        Men in drag used to be a big part of English humor. I never got that. I never thought a man in a dress was funny or offensive or cute or anything really. It’s just a dude wearing fabric in a non-traditional manner, but whatever, they thought it was funny.
        Anyone know what passes for humor in Britain these days? I know the lefties have taken a giant shit on comedy here.

        1. Tonio

          I think it’s more of a costume than drag. If the performer always performs in the clothing normative to the opposite sex, then drag performer. If the performer adopts various costumes including those of the opposite sex as the situation requires, then comedian doing a good job of it. Also, historically fewer female comedians for whatever reasons.

        2. Scruffy Nerfherder

          Now I know you’re autistic.

          How can you not laugh at Graham Chapman in a dress?

        3. Can’t find the US Navy WW2 colorized footage clips, but it’s been a Naval tradition for decades as well (phased out more the last 20 years or so I imagine – but most of the documentation, regulations you can look up still have a lot of details).

          https://youtu.be/cXM_krdobJ4

        4. mexican sharpshooter

          Anyone know what passes for humor in Britain these days?

          Ricky Gervais? Though I’ve never really found him funny.

    6. Fatty Bolger

      Oof, that’s pretty bad for 1984. I think that’s not going to go over well even outside of the “outrage of the day” community.

      1. Rhywun

        Yeah, who didn’t know that was beyond the pale even then? Anyone pulling that shit in my HS in 1984 would have gotten their ass kicked.

        That said…

        I’m torn whether he shouldn’t just go the “fuck you” route. I know turnabout is fair play but this shit of dredging up decades-old improprieties is never going to end if people don’t fight back.

        1. Akira

          I’m torn whether he shouldn’t just go the “fuck you” route. I know turnabout is fair play but this shit of dredging up decades-old improprieties is never going to end if people don’t fight back.

          The only way that trend will stop is if the Left gets a taste of their own medicine. They created the golem of Hebrew legends, and I don’t think they’ll learn until that golem stomps their face in.

          1. Rhywun

            Yeah, fair point. String him up!

          2. mr simple

            Idk, I think that just emboldens the judgers and makes it worse. The only way I see it ending is for people, especially of the opposite party, to push back, not give in and not suffer electoral consequences for it. Cavanaugh was a good start.

        2. AlmightyJB

          People change and mature. If you have to back 35 years to find something messed up like that than wtf. How many felons who committed murder and rape and other horrific crimes decades ago are now out of prison and getting a second chance. I know based on social media though that saying it doing something deemed racist, sexist, or transphobic is waaay worse than any violent crime you can think of.

  11. AlmightyJB

    The cult dynamic is really interesting. First ifcall, how do you fall for it? Then how do you stay when you discover it’s a sham especially if your one if the people in the cult without special benefits. My wife watches the Leah Remini (would so hard) shows and it’s crazy what goes on. There is a Deadly Cults series on Oxygen starting 2/10 that I just set to record.

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      The sunk cost fallacy is more powerful than most people think.

      1. AlmightyJB

        Is part of that not wanting to face or admit how stupid they’ve been?

        1. Stinky Wizzleteats

          That’d be my guess.

    2. Count Potato

      There have always been cults.

    3. Suthenboy

      “First ifcall, how do you fall for it? Then how do you stay when you discover it’s a sham…”

      1. They are weak. Fear drives them to seek out a herd to belong to so they feel safe.
      2. Remember yesterday there was a story about a commie who went back and visited his home country which had become commie and the scales fell from his eyes? He said when the realization hit him he could feel his face flush and he felt terrible shame. Most people are too weak to face that so they cant admit to themselves the error of their ways.

      They are weak, empty and fearful.
      Appeal to the worst parts of human nature and what kinds of people do you get? I will let you work that out.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I missed the story about the commie.

        1. Nephilium

          I believe this is the story that Suthenboy is referring to.

          1. AlmightyJB

            Cool Thanks! Not sure if you saw the Economic Freedom Report with top 10 and bottom 10 large metro areas on TOS the other day but Cleveland and Columbus both made bottom 10. Haven’t looked at methodology though.

          2. Nephilium

            I did not see that, but I can believe it (at least in regards to Cleveland). Cuyahoga county is corrupt as hell, and has been for as long as I can remember.

          3. AlmightyJB

            Yeah, Columbus City Council is horrible. Very prog elitist.

  12. Man, the political climate in Virginia is friggin bananas.

    Not only do we need a national divorce here in the ol’ US, some of these states could stand to split up.I

    And a partial birth abortion for Washington DC.

    1. Tonio

      Somebody make this man a judge!

  13. The Late P Brooks

    next stop Amarillo.

    You’ll like it there. You might never want to leave.

    1. DrOtto

      Stayed at the Camalot (pronounced Came-a-lot) Inn in Amarillo in the late ’90s. It was a small adventure.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, if I had to live in Texas it would be as far north as possible. Can’t do that oppressive heatm.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        When we lived in Austin, we hated the heat. But still, what a fun place to be- art, music, food.

        1. AlmightyJB

          I think having a university the size of UT brings a lot of those benefits. We’ve been looking at where we want to retire to and I look for having a decent size university nearby because I know they’ll be things to do other than going to the grocery store.

    3. Old Man With Candy

      Our hearts are still in Montana. One day… one day…

      1. Tres Cool

        Flathead Vally, Montana Crime Update

      2. PieInTheSky

        The climate sucks though. And I assume there is no wine in Montana

        1. Tulip

          There are wineries in all 50 states.

        2. Raven Nation

          Meh, the Flathead Valley is actually relatively mild. Very little wind chill and temps, while cold, are not like the eastern plains. Summer’s are wonderful. Downside, is v. short days in mid-winter.

  14. The Late P Brooks

    ever since I stopped regularly consuming news media and social media content, I’ve noticed that things just sort of pass me by.

    I saw, but did not read, an article yesterday about how people who unplug from facebook (the internet as a whole?) are “happier” but “less well-informed”.

    Yeah. Less mis-informed, maybe.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, seems like a whole lot of people who spend a whole lot of time online are not all that well informed.

      1. Tundra

        Except for us, of course.

        1. AlmightyJB

          Having brains and a healthy degree of skepticism and cynicism does help:)

          1. MikeS

            Hmmm…I’m not sure if that’s correct.

          2. AlmightyJB

            Took me a second. I’ll blame all of the beers I had last night.

    2. Raphael

      I’ll take not being so up-to-date on everything over the migraines from all the hot-takes and vile rhetoric, especially when it’s from the likes of facebook and twitter.

      1. Tejicano

        I have a fecesbook account mostly to be in touch with relatives back in the US but I check it so rarely that I usually have “notices” nearly in the triple digits when I do check. I definitely don’t check it for news.

        1. Raphael

          Same, hell I just use it for the messenger feature so I can keep in touch with my sister.

  15. Count Potato

    Whereas this “deep fake” thing is used mostly for bad celebrity porn, the technology behind it getting more advanced — better, less expensive, easier to use. Look at some of the stuff that Netflix has put out. If they can make movies without sets, then soon they’ll be able to make movies without actors. That doesn’t concern me any more than music without musicians. What concerns me is that it will be used to make fake news. So no one will know whether they should believe what they see.

    1. Suthenboy

      I am picturing myself sitting in a courtroom in the defendants chair watching video evidence of myself doing or saying something that I never did or said.

      1. Rhywun

        I would like to think that by that point, video “evidence” will simply be inadmissible.

        Can we start taking down all the CCTV cameras now?

        1. l0b0t

          I vaguely remember a talk from the very early 1990s (on C-SPAN?) with (IIRC) Vernor Vinge, Alan Dershowitz, and someone from the Electronic Frontier Foundation positing that video would soon be inadmissible for this very reason.

      2. Fatty Bolger

        The Running Man was prophetic.

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      So no one will know whether they should believe what they see.

      Good. We might see a return to critical thinking and the study of rhetoric.

      1. Mad Scientist

        C’mon, HM. You know damn well we aren’t going to see that,

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          I have always been too beautiful for this world.

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder

        +1 Meth-Fueled Slam Poem Recitation

  16. Count Potato

    “The fact that this exists is TERRIFYING and exemplary of how far we are from liberation. Women are not sex toys, they are not dolls. They are not property. This is objectification and misogyny on steroids. Anyone who buys/creates things like this is deranged.”

    https://twitter.com/lexi4prez/status/1091176184216473600

    “women are not sex dolls” but that is L I T E R A L L Y a sex doll. “objectification” of a a L I T E R A L object. it’s an expensive sex toy. thats it. i cannot for the life of me understand the outrage about these things.”

    https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1091391107135614976

    1. R C Dean

      I wonder how many dildos Alexis has.

    2. Count Potato

      In other news, this “chicana activist, materialist feminist & social work student” caterwauling about objectification has a totally thot instagram.

      https://www.instagram.com/lexi4prez/

      So please, don’t sexualize her posing in her underwear. It’s important social work to liberate women.

        1. Suthenboy

          Those girls are in for a very unhappy life.

        2. Brochettaward

          Would.

        3. MikeS

          Is she woman-splaining?

          ɢᴀɴʏᴍᴇᴅᴇ
          ‏ @starcrossedlovr
          Jan 9
          Replying to @lexi4prez

          Because men envy women’s ability to be competent and successful in a professional setting while also commanding sexual energy.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            The best thing about that is if you go to that twitter account, it’s clear that the owner has a penis.

          2. R C Dean

            Well, leaving aside the question of men are also able to be competent and successful, etc., if she’s right, that sounds an awful lot like female privilege to me.

    3. Tejicano

      So, I wonder what she thinks about the dildo she keeps in her drawer?

    4. Rhywun

      It’s like male sex dolls aren’t a thing.

    5. Spudalicious

      Her tweets justify the sex doll.

  17. The Late P Brooks

    Well, okay, maybe a wall would work… sometimes.

    “If you go to Tijuana and you take down that wall, you will have so many people coming into our country that Nancy Pelosi will be begging for a wall,” he said from the Oval Office. “She will be begging for a wall. She will say, ‘Mr. President, please, please give us a wall.’”

    While it seems unlikely the House speaker would ever beg for a wall, the president has a valid point about fencing’s impact on the border region. Although San Diego’s barrier may stem illegal crossings, its impact is more complicated than Trump’s statement that “walls work” suggests.

    ————

    Experts, many critical of Trump’s overall stand on border security, acknowledge the San Diego barriers, now made of steel bollards and surplus military landing mats, have more or less done their job. The sector went from being the top location for border crossings to a relative ghost town with 26,086 apprehensions in fiscal year 2017, according to the Border Patrol.

    The hardened border, however, pushed migrants to remote areas that have few man-made impediments and are often just World War II-style vehicle barriers known as Normandy fencing, Clark-Alfaro said. Arizona has become a hotbed of crossings, but migrants often die of dehydration. The mountains east of San Diego have also become a crossing zone, where migrants have died from hypothermia.

    The San Diego-area border security measures have also enticed cartels to dive deeper into smuggling because the barriers drive up prices for guides or coyotes, experts say. Prices have gone from as little as $75 in the 1990s to as much as $7,000 today, said San Diego State’s Clark-Alfaro.

    “We’ve made it more profitable for human traffickers along the border,” added Shirk, of the University of San Diego.

    Lots of “one the one hand…” here. Bottom line? It’s complicated.

    What should we do? Whatever Trump doesn’t want, I’d say.

    1. Tulip

      I’m not a supporter of the wall, but reading this, doesn’t it suggest walls are needed in AZ and the mountains?

      1. Rhywun

        I don’t know the “right answer” but it does beg the question of why the anti-wall set isn’t calling for the destruction of the hundreds of miles that already exist.

      2. Akira

        You could almost make the case that it’s needed to save lives since the article mentioned that people die from exposure to the harsh desert elements.

      3. R C Dean

        There’s a huge Indian reservation on the border in AZ. I think they won’t let a wall be built there. And that is one nasty piece of terrain. They are constantly pulling bodies out of there.

      4. Tejicano

        To me it isn’t so much about having or not having a wall. I just wonder what people think a wall is really going to do.

        A lot of the border is so freaking desolate, so far away from human habitation that in the wall (metal fence might be a better description) that does exist the Border Patrol discovered that somebody had cut out a door big enough to drive a truck through. They had then welded the cut out piece to hinges and made a door. The Border Patrol could not say how many years this door had been there but it was obvious that it had been used, plastered over, and re-painted numerous times.

        So you build a wall. So what? They don’t have ladders in Mexico? If we don’t put manpower to watch it 24/7 – and you’re talking at least a half million people when you add up logistics, admin, maintenance – all that support tail that makes an organization function.

        Yeah, yeah. Send helicopters. Ha ha ha! Now you’ve just added another layer on top. For every functional, flying chopper you need about six for down time, maintenance, re-fitting, etc. And probably 10 to 15 times the headcount for mechanics, parts admin, training, etc.

        1. What I hear is “Solution X isn’t perfect, so why bother?” It’s not a case of “Do one thing and solve the problem”, but each increment of disincentive helps. Especially if some traction can be gained in reducing the incentive to push the total equation towards not being worth the effort of overcoming the obstacles of barriers, patrols and desolation.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            not being worth the effort of overcoming the obstacles of barriers, patrols and desolation.

            Have you read about the shit East Germans did to sneak past the Berlin Wall? And arguably, even communist East Germany was not as much of a corrupt shithole as the Latin American failed states these guys are fleeing.

            People need to stop conflating “open entry” with “open borders”. Open Ellis Island on the Rio Grande, allow anyone who can make the journey to come to that port of entry. Keep them there until the physical examinations and vetting are done, and then wish them well and send them on their way.

            But Big Labor doesn’t want that, and you know why.

          2. Tundra

            When did we stop doing that? It was the way of things for an awful long time.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            1924: A combination of West Coast fears of a Yellow Peril combined with eugenics being the fad of the day.

          4. Heroic Mulatto

            It’s also worth noting that giant piece of shit Woodrow Wilson actually vetoed the Immigration Act of 1917 which was one of the first moves away from the Ellis Island model.

          5. Tundra

            Huh. Surprised my Dago people got in.

            Although it looks like most of them came in 1920. And then a bunch more after the war.

            My Scottish great grandfather came in 1908.

            Congress revised the Act in 1952.

            Right about the time they shut down Ellis Island. The Ellis Island Passenger Search is super cool. I found out my great grandfather came over from Scotland on the Lusitania.

          6. Heroic Mulatto

            My maternal great-grandparents came from Poland and Ukraine (then the Austro-Hungarian Empire) during the 1880s. My mom tells stories of how my great-grandmother would complain about the “refs” and “greenhorns” who came in the next wave of immigration.

            My paternal grandparents came during the 1960s.

          7. Raven Nation

            ” Open Ellis Island on the Rio Grande”

            Hmm, I like this idea. Issue work permits rather than immigrant visas? Or have the whole range available?

          8. Heroic Mulatto

            Having been a “guest worker” in another country, I’ve always supported such programs.

          9. Raven Nation

            Yeah, that would seem to be a relatively simple solution to much (but not all) of the immigration problem. The UK used to have (and may still) a system where, if one of your grandparents had been born in the UK, you could get a long-term work visa. There was no citizenship pathway and no ability to collect long-term unemployment. My paternal grandmother was born in Scotland, and one of my cousins lived and worked there for decades.

            I’ve also heard a number of studies that suggest the majority of people granted long-term work visas to the US never pursue citizenship.

          10. Heroic Mulatto

            the majority of people granted long-term work visas to the US never pursue citizenship

            Hell, my (soon-to-be) ex never pursued citizenship in 14 years of marriage.

          11. Mad Scientist

            My father-in-law, who emigrated from Germany in the early 40s, just became a citizen last year.

          12. Raven Nation

            “my (soon-to-be) ex”

            Sorry?

          13. Heroic Mulatto

            Sorry?

            Congratulations are more in order.

          14. grrizzly

            My father-in-law, who emigrated from Germany in the early 40s, just became a citizen last year.

            It’s different for Germans. They have to renounce their German citizenship if they become citizens of another country. Most other countries don’t explicitly prohibit dual citizenship.

          15. R C Dean

            Open Ellis Island on the Rio Grande, allow anyone who can make the journey to come to that port of entry.

            You bet. The “wide gate”. But allowing people to use a point of entry implies you don’t allow them to enter elsewhere, otherwise, what’s the point of the point of entry, vetting, etc.? That’s what the “high wall” half of the high wall, wide gate approach is for.

          16. Heroic Mulatto

            But allowing people to use a point of entry implies you don’t allow them to enter elsewhere, otherwise, what’s the point of the point of entry

            Correct. Separating the wheat from the chaff. That way if you catch someone sneaking across the border, you know they are up to no good. Maybe a wall would still be needed, or maybe BP can work more effectively now that they can concentrate on fewer border crossings by ‘bad hombres’ outside of the PoEs. I don’t know.

          17. Tundra

            Too simple. It will never work.

          18. Tejicano

            I’m not really arguing against a wall. I just want people to understand what it can be expected to do and what we shouldn’t expect it will do. People who really want it seem to think it will be the “end-all” solution when it can’t be anything like that.

            People seem to be ignorant of how incredibly remote most of the border is, how easy this wall can be defeated (a ladder and some rope), and how much manpower would be required to patrol it effectively.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          The Wall = Public Schools

          It won’t work and the answer will be to constantly funnel more money into the DHS budget.

          But it will be worth it to own the libs.

        3. Fatty Bolger

          It would probably cut down on the amount of illegal immigration. There are good arguments against it, obviously. But saying it won’t work at all because it’s not infallible isn’t one of them.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            But saying it won’t work at all because it’s not infallible isn’t one of them.

            If we’re talking cost vs. value, it’s a cogent argument.

          2. Fatty Bolger

            Cost vs. value is a good argument. But citing the huge costs that would be required to make the wall impenetrable is not.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            This assumes the premise that a “problem” exists in the first place.

          4. Brochettaward

            Are you suggesting that Mexicans aren’t a problem?

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            Have you seen how well Salma Hayek has been holding up?

          6. Tejicano

            I get the feeling that most people think building the wall will cut illegal immigration down by some huge percentage so we won’t have to put so much money into patrolling the border.

            I doubt it will have a truly significant effect since they can still defeat it with a ladder. To make any difference we will still have to patrol it at least as much as we do now.

          7. Heroic Mulatto

            think building the wall will cut illegal immigration down by some huge percentage so we won’t have to put so much money into patrolling the border

            And yet, in Washington, all the talk is about spending money for more drones, BP agents, etc. to supplement the effectiveness of this big, beautiful wall that was supposed to be paid for through a trade surplus.

          8. Fatty Bolger

            I don’t get the impression it’s being touted as a cost saving measure. I’m kind of torn on it, personally. On the one hand, I don’t think it’s a great thing. But on the other, I’m for anything that allows us get some movement on legalizing people who are already here, and improving and increasing legal immigration and work visas. My gut feeling is that these issues will be easier to address if more Americans *feel* that the borders are secure.

          9. R C Dean

            Its about volume. With a decent wall (and I think a lot of what we have now is just badly designed, built, and maintained), its harder to get across. When you can just drive on a paved road to the border and walk across, that’s one thing. When you have to walk across miles of inhospitable terrain to avoid a decent wall, that’s another. I don’t know that we need a wall across the entire border to have better control of who crosses.

            You simply cannot move as many people across a border that doesn’t have a wall. Look at the last migrant caravan – it literally hit the wall in CA. Now, because of our stupid ‘asylum” policies, we still let a bunch in, and some snuck in, but as far as I know, not that many. I haven’t really heard what happened to that caravan.

            I think that any amnesty, by whatever name, undercuts the effectiveness of any border and immigration control, because its all about incentives. The harder/costlier it is to cross illegally, the fewer people will do it. The expectation that, once you do, you’re home free, increases that likelihood. The fact that we have signalled that dragging a kid a long is like a get out of immigration jail free card has led to more people dragging kids along. Some of whom die. Because of a policy touted as more “humane”.

          10. R C Dean

            Of course, literally as I click “Post Comment” I see a catastrophic error:

            You simply cannot move as many people across a border that doesn’t have has a wall.

  18. Rufus the Monocled

    Update: Some of you may hav remembered this guy from the other day who said he was a ‘science PhD’ and since expanded on that:

    “wrdemott1

    First, the number of “dissenting” scientists is only a few percent. Second, the dissenting scientists are simply not publishing, or if they do, they are publishing in junk journals. Finally, science is an international endeavor, and scientists from every major country on the planet are publishing research that supports the role of human carbon emissions in warming the planet. You seem to think that scientists are not able to evaluate the credibility of science. I have been a reviewer or editor for over 1200 manuscripts and analyzing the credibility of scientific manuscripts is a key skill for any successful scientist.

    “I have over 50 peer-reviewed publications, many in the top journals in my field of limnology and oceanography. You can see a listing of my publications if you search under “WR DeMott.” in Google Scholar. I only have one article on climate (Manca and DeMott 2009). This article is open access, so you can easily find and read a PDF. It’s about the effects of 20 years of warming on the food chain of a large subalpine lake on the Italian/Swiss border. It’s part of a special issue of Limnology and Oceanography on lakes as sentinels of climate change. The issue has about 40 articles using lakes to assess climate change. Limnology and Oceanography is the top aquatic journal and I am the author about 10 publications in that journal.”

    I don’t know what to think anymore. Maybe it’s better the world ends in 12 years.

    At least he’s a professor for real:

    https://www.pfw.edu/departments/coas/depts/biology/about/faculty/demott.html

    1. Tulip

      My brother’s PhD is in limnology, but he is not this guy. Thank God.

    2. PieInTheSky

      First, the number of “dissenting” scientists is only a few percent. – irrelevant

      Second, the dissenting scientists are simply not publishing, or if they do, they are publishing in junk journals – because other journals probably do not want to publish them. But there re plenty of papers published in good journals which, by looking at the data, make a good case that what is going on now is not unprecedented. they just don’t explicitly state it in order to get published.

      You seem to think that scientists are not able to evaluate the credibility of science. – peer review is quite broken. In many cases they are not able.

      the credibility of scientific manuscripts is a key skill for any successful scientist – meh depends on the field

      1. Rhywun

        peer review is quite broken

        Yeah, that was my thought.

        I bet this guy doesn’t know anyone who voted for Nixon, either.

      2. Akira

        Second, the dissenting scientists are simply not publishing, or if they do, they are publishing in junk journals – because other journals probably do not want to publish them.

        Exactly. You can create a consensus by ostracizing and drumming out any scientist who goes against the narrative.

        This is why it’s important to understand that science is not a group of human beings. It’s a mode of thought.

        1. Suthenboy

          Wait, what? I thought science = lab coats, PhDs, beakers and microscopes? Especially lab coats.
          Either that or it is ‘the study of X’. Right?
          It certainly isnt a body of methods and principles that must be strictly adhered to. I know it isnt that.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            You forgot statistics. You always need statistics.

          2. Suthenboy

            Not lies and damned lies?
            I am confused.

          3. Count Potato

            “Especially lab coats.”

            Stay out of my porn folder.

      3. Suthenboy

        “the number of “dissenting” scientists is only a few percent. – irrelevant”
        Not just irrelevant, also untrue.

        “peer review is quite broken. In many cases they are not able.”
        That is putting it mildly. A large majority of published works cannot be replicated.

        “the credibility of scientific manuscripts is a key skill for any successful scientist”
        I hardly know where to start on that one. What constitutes a ‘successful scientist’?
        In science any endeavor, even failed hypotheses, gives us knowledge, which is the whole point of science. What does he mean by credibility? I suspect success in getting grant money = success in science in his mind. If not, certainly in practice.
        I dont think this guy is remotely qualified to launch a study into where the dogshit in my back yard comes from.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          “peer review is quite broken. In many cases they are not able.”
          That is putting it mildly. A large majority of published works cannot be replicated.

          To be fair, as a peer reviewer for a journal, that’s not what it’s about. It’s about looking at a particular aspect of the article and seeing if it passes the smell test. Replication is someone doing another study, which should be a good thing, but the politics of academic promotion is what fucks that up. Replication studies aren’t seen as prestigious as original research, so there is much incentive for academics, particularly those in the very competitive fields of physical science, to not “waste” time with replication studies.

          1. Suthenboy

            “The fights in academia are so vicious because the stakes are so low”

            You are correct. Somehow, in my head, I conflated peer review with replication. Me being boneheaded. Imagine that.

    3. Tres Cool

      Still reminds me of when Norm met his neighbor, the Professor of Logic.

      1. Tundra

        Norm’s hilarious.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        Norm is the best.

    4. mr simple

      Another problem with the ‘lots of research supports’ argument is that most of this research takes agw as a given, rather than proving anything of the sort. They conveniently ignore that no predictions have come true to date and actual trends fall well outside prediction intervals.

      1. Suthenboy

        They also stare at the sky and whistle when it is pointed out that they have changed their ‘hypothesis’ to one that is unfalsifiable – the worst sin one can commit when calling themselves a scientist.

      2. Rufus the Monocled

        So what you’re saying is psychics are better at predicting?

        1. Psychics at least get it right on occasion through sheer chance.

      3. Akira

        They conveniently ignore that no predictions have come true to date and actual trends fall well outside prediction intervals.

        That’s what irks me about the whole CAGW thing. There’s a trail of embarrassingly wrong predictions, yet they basically equate you with Alex Jones if you merely question any part of the narrative (and the resulting policy ideas, which are in the realm of economics and ethics, not physical science).

        If there were some guy on TV claiming to have an advanced algorithm that would predict the activity of the stock market but he was wrong even half of the time, nobody would call you a lunatic for not believing his predictions. It would be completely rational to question the accuracy of his algorithm and ask why we should believe him now when he’s been wrong so many times before.

  19. Rufus the Monocled

    “Continuing the disturbing trend, what happens when one day an AI entity decides it’s alive and has no interest in letting anybody turn it off?”

    We did. His name was HAL!

  20. The Late P Brooks

    Flathead Vally, Montana

    Not sunny enough.

  21. Rufus the Monocled

    “And Bill Clinton, singer Paul Simon and supermodel Naomi Campbell are among the other celebrities rumoured to have visited him.”

    Erm, Clinton’s name is again associated with someone connected to the sex/child trade?

    It’s probably nothing.

    Of course, beyond that, celebrities show how retarded they are Case 39494955.

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      You know. Clinton was the President. How could he not know? How does a former President and all the access he has to info. not possibly know the people he associates could be up to no good? I did that once for a shady character. We had a friend who was a lawyer and he did us a favour. He came back to us with ‘I don’t like what I saw’. It was enough for us to distance ourselves from that guy.

      This has happened a few too times for my taste.

      1. Suthenboy

        What on earth makes you think Clinton didn’t know?

        1. Brochettaward

          Epstein told Bill that he was just running a shelter for runaways. You can’t blame him for not thinking more of all the scantily clad 16 year olds running about.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Well, if I ran a shelter for runaways, it would be full of scantily clad 16 year olds.

            Jus’ sayin’

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          I still want to be naive about this but…man. Of child porn and body counts, the Clintons are a pair of sleaze bags where sleaze follows them a little too easily.

  22. The Late P Brooks

    reading this, doesn’t it suggest walls are needed in AZ and the mountains?

    Pretty much. They refer to the old days, when there was pretty much free and unencumbered passage back and forth across the border, and (most) people went back home at night. That would be ideal, in my estimation, but even I will admit we’re well past that point.

  23. Rufus the Monocled

    Buscemi has been killed twice in interesting ways.

  24. The Late P Brooks

    So, I wonder what she thinks about the dildo she keeps in her drawer?

    She had better keep that drawer locked, or the dildo will escape and rape her and everyone she loves.

  25. Tres Cool

    I’d almost consider voting for a ticket that was Trump/DeVille2020.

    Some (NSFW) examples of her work

    1. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Now that Kamala Harris is in she wasn’t even the biggest whore on the ticket.
      Sad.

    2. Raven Nation

      Hmm, I wonder why her campaign didn’t get off the ground: “citing a lack of support for a campaign that tried to combine opposition to Trump, libertarianism, and Bernie Sanders-like views, including legalization of marijuana, free education, gun control, and net neutrality.”

      1. Suthenboy

        Of the pinkos that have announced their candidacy they all look identical to me. There is no difference whatsoever in their platforms. As usual withe the left it is going to boil down to which one can best cultivate a cult of personality.
        What a terrible party they are.

        1. Brochettaward

          Worse than that, actually, because it’s going to boil down to whether a vagina or skin color matters more.

    3. Count Potato

      That music is hilarious.

    4. Heroic Mulatto

      That’s what’s wrong with America. Starring in “That Pee Girl: Desperate Homebuyer Caught Peeing In Kitchen Sink “ should be what defines Presidential Timber.

  26. Rufus the Monocled

    Trudeau found guilty of ethics violations. Check this bonehead out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ7mnuJ1gT4

  27. Nephilium

    I have the feeling Berkeley Breathed may be done with the woke crowd.

    1. Tres Cool

      As a devout Bloom County reader in my younger days, I was happy to see the strip come back. That is, until I started reading the new version.

    2. Stinky Wizzleteats

      I need to check out his new stuff, I loved Bloom County in the ‘80s.

      1. Tundra

        I just read a couple weeks back. Cherish those memories, because the new stuff ain’t shit.

    3. Not Adahn

      He pretty much wrote that comic back in the Regan administration.

  28. Brochettaward
  29. Count Potato

    https://twitter.com/Sugar_Tits_Bear/status/1091384485373865984

    I can’t seem to find the original article. Although it’s nothing new. Carol J. Adams has been going on for thirty years about how eating meat causes pornography.

    1. Akira

      Maybe it was a typo and she meant “Beating meat causes pornography”.

      1. Nephilium

        Are you sure you have the causality correct there?

    2. Rufus the Monocled

      What in the heck was that?

    3. Gustave Lytton

      If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding. How can you have pudding if you don’t eat your meat?

  30. The Late P Brooks

    Save us, Comrade Gulag Barbie!

    It’s time to thank our lucky stars that the good people of New York’s 14th congressional district in Queens had the wisdom last November to elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to represent them. All it took was a few tweets and TV interviews for her to blow up the Democratic primary for president, and at 29, she’s not even eligible to run!

    Her advocacy for a 70 percent top marginal tax rate has introduced an issue into the campaign that we should have been talking about 20 years ago. Ever since Ronald Reagan and the Republican party took cutting taxes as their reason for being, Democrats have cowered in corners splitting hairs with them. Should we raise the top rate back to 39.6 percent from the 35 percent rate which existed under the Bush tax cuts? Ooooooo! That’s a tough one! A big argument over 3.9 percent!

    Them rich fuckers:

    The thing they all have in common is that they know better than we do about the best way to spend the money they’ve got. Bill Gates and his wife might want to help end the scourge of AIDS in Africa, or they might want to help educate the poor children of the inner city. Warren Buffett made headlines last summer when he announced that he was donating $3.4 billion of his hard-earned dollars to five charities. The bulk of it went to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and the rest went to four of his own family’s foundations. According to Fortune, “Since 2006, Buffett has donated over $30 billion to charity, of which $24.5 billion went to the Gates Foundation.”

    You read that right. Buffett’s idea of charitable giving is to move his money over to other charities, some of them owned by himself and his own kids. This is because billionaires like Buffett and Gates think they know better how to spend their hard-earned money than we, the American voters and taxpayers do. This is also how we find ourselves in the economic situation we are in today, where a few really, really rich guys own more stuff than quite literally hundreds of millions of the rest of us do.

    Talik about envious evil. Mask? What mask?

    The best part is the commie shitbag who wrote this is “Lucian K Truscott IV”. You’d think he’d write under a pseudonym, just so the administrators of his trust fund wouldn’t find out what he’s up to.

    1. Rhywun

      I read that as Trustcott…. That name can’t be real.

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder

        It is. IIRC he’s a Charlottesville prog who inherited a bunch of money and feels really horrible about it because he’s a useless twat and some of his ancestors owned slaves. So now he advocates taking everybody else’s stuff in the hopes it will absolve him of his hereditary guilt.

        1. R C Dean

          Has he given away the money he inherited to black people? No? Then fuck off.

        2. l0b0t

          His grandfather was a genuine war hero who helped create the US Army Rangers, then later, a CIA Deputy Director of Coordination who was instrumental in fomenting regime change in Guatemala and Iran.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        Grandson of this guy:
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucian_Truscott

        IV is an embarrassment to his family’s legacy and has been for years.

        1. Scruffy Nerfherder

          He was superstitious about his clothing, and usually wore a leather jacket, “pink” pants and lucky boots in combat. He also wore a white scarf as a trademark, first during the Sicilian campaign.

          I like this guy. He’s got style.

    2. Fatty Bolger

      What a fucker. This was my response in the comments:

      “The thing they all have in common is that they know better than we do about the best way to spend the money they’ve got”

      Because they do. And I’m absolutely sure you feel the same way about your own money. If you don’t, send all your money to me. I’ll give you back enough to live the way *I* think you should live. Would that make you happy?

      1. Brochettaward

        I mean, I consider the question irrelevant. It’s their money.

    3. Stinky Wizzleteats

      Lucian K Truscott IV

      Hilarious name, I picture a guy wearing an ascot and drinking $300 a bottle scotch.

      1. straffinrun

        I wore a dirty sweater and drank Jamison tonight. Nobody listened to me. I gotta improve.

    4. AlmightyJB

      2024 will be fun.

    5. Suthenboy

      The problem with commies is that you cant tell parody from reality.
      Rampant Dunning-Kruger effect or parody? Who can tell?

    6. Rufus the Monocled

      That’s why lefties who parade Buffett and Gates around whenever they back their tax schemes are useful idiots.

      If Buffett is clamouring for more taxes, you can bet he’s going to profit from it and won’t pay a dime more than he has to.

      But it plays to the idiot base well: See? Even a billionaire says he doesn’t pay his fair share!

      Idiots abound. From that commie in the article to progressives. Nothing more bizarre than listening to a millennial wax poetic about 90% marginal tax rates in the 1950s repeating tropes they scarce comprehend in any profound or professional manner.

      ‘Hey, I just got a tattoo that says, ‘Pay your fair share! 90%!’ Dumbasses.

      1. Akira

        Nothing more bizarre than listening to a millennial wax poetic about 90% marginal tax rates in the 1950s repeating tropes they scarce comprehend in any profound or professional manner.

        Especially if that same millennial would call you a wretched misogynist and racist if you suggested that any other aspect of the 1950s was preferable to what we have today.

        PS: Most people here probably know this already, but Tom Woods did a recent episode about Occasional-Cortex’s comments on the top marginal tax rate where he pointed out that virtually nobody in the ’50s actually paid that rate due to the various loopholes and deductions (which no longer exist today). Raising the top marginal tax rate to that level would not merely be going back to some idyllic time in history; it would be raising the top marginal tax rate to a level where it has never been before.

        1. Brochettaward

          The 1950’s weren’t even actually that long ago. It’s not like this is hard stuff for anyone to find out, but here we are and this shit is considered serious political discourse. Think about how bastardized the narrative on events that happened just the last news cycle are. Now think about all the shit that routinely gets parroted as truth about history that supports convenient narratives.

          1. Akira

            I get so tired of trying to debunk this shit.

            Another great one is: “The late 1800s were horrible times when innocent children were kidnapped at gunpoint and forced to work in horrible factories and whipped every day by greedy, sour-faced men in monocles”.

          2. Hyperion

            “when innocent children were kidnapped at gunpoint and forced to work in horrible factories and whipped every day by greedy, sour-faced men in monocles.”

            But what was the problem?

    7. Chipwooder

      His grandfather was a famous WWII general who was one of Patton’s division commanders in Sicily who no doubt is spinning in his grave at what a commie dipshit his grandson is.

  31. Count Potato

    Morgan Freeman on Black History Month

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtYS-P3s

    1. AlmightyJB

      That’s what woke really is.

  32. Count Potato

    “Trump Reportedly Keeps Showing White House Guests Where Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky Had Sex”

    https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-keeps-showing-white-house-guests-where-bill-clinton-and-monica-lewinsky-had-sex/

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-clinton-lewinsky-affair-guests-1307501

    Probably bullshit, but still funny.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I choose to believe it’s true because that gives me a small amount of joy.

    2. Suthenboy

      Reportedly….reported by someone familiar with his thinking?

      I am hoping it is true. Better yet, I hope he invites Hillary to visit so he can show her.

    3. Fatty Bolger

      That’s awesome.

    4. SandMan

      Might have been sex, but not “sexual relations”!!

  33. The Late P Brooks

    The way you correct, or even prevent, so-called “income inequality” is to not let it happen in the first place. If you levy a higher tax on the wealthy, you get more tax money to spend the way officials of the government elected by the people decide to spend it.

    It is incomprehensible to me that anybody could claim to seriously believe this.

    1. Scruffy Nerfherder

      They’re steeped in it from birth.

    2. Tundra

      The Dems are lost. Even their most famous and revered president said:

      “It is a paradoxical truth that tax rates are too high and tax revenues are too low and the soundest way to raise the revenues in the long run is to cut the rates now … Cutting taxes now is not to incur a budget deficit, but to achieve the more prosperous, expanding economy which can bring a budget surplus.”

      1. Suthenboy

        The Laffer curve visualizes a concept that leftists simply dont have the circuitry to grasp.
        If you remember the smartest guy who ever lived said “Taxes aren’t about revenue, they are about fairness.”
        Taxes are a tool for control, that’s all. The quest for more power is all they know.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          Claiming tax as a tool for fairness is for fools.

          Taxes are inefficient. So how can they be ‘fair’?

    3. AlmightyJB

      Yes, we should punish people who work hard and make sacrifices today so they can have a better life tomorrow and who are willing to shoulder more responsibility and we should reward people who don’t do any of those things. Because that’s only fair.

  34. straffinrun

    Rushed down the stairs to catch the last train. Look at the screen on the train and realize it’s going the opposite way. Door opens cuz some drunk is passed out in the doorway of the train. Jump off and run across the platform to catch the last train going my way. Winning.

    1. AlmightyJB

      You’re like Superman:)

    2. Gustave Lytton

      You were also the drunk, right?

      1. straffinrun

        Yep. And made it home. It was a good night.

  35. The Late P Brooks

    For some reason, I suspect “Lucian K Truscott IV” would look at me as if I had two heads if I suggested he send a $500 check to “Gifts to the U S Treasury” as a gesture of good faith. You know to demonstrate his sincere dedication to burden sharing, and suchlike.

  36. The Late P Brooks

    send all your money to me. I’ll give you back enough to live the way *I* think you should live. Would that make you happy?

    Excellent.

  37. The Late P Brooks

    Having been a “guest worker” in another country, I’ve always supported such programs.

    I have been asking, for years, why so many people labor under the delusion that every person who enters this country needs/wants to become a citizen. Let them them come and work (or loaf, on their own dime) as long as they want, and then go home.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      I think part of it is due to the rhetoric of immigration itself – “the American Dream”. If you believe that America is the best of all possible worlds, then of course everyone wants be a part of utopia.

      1. Suthenboy

        “America is the worst country, except for all of the others” is true.

        1. straffinrun

          Let me go Judge Nap for a second. What if the US that you knew and loved is no longer capable of protecting individual liberties? What if the future of the US is an unending yielding to those who call for more regulation and redistribution? What if the US becomes just another oppressive regime among the community of nations? I seriously hope the US can find it’s way and become what it is supposed to become. What if it doesn’t? That is my question. But I’m drunk.

          1. Tundra

            Meh. It swings back and forth. We’ve been too comfortable for too long and ceded too much ground to the proggies. There are a lot of people who still believe in the individual. I think you will see future battles be framed better and allow those voices to be heard.

            But I’m an optimist by nature.

          2. straffinrun

            Thanks. I get hang dog once in a while, but why not have hope?

          3. I wish I had the optimism to accept the pendulum theory. I’m more inclined to believe the ratchet theory.

          4. Suthenboy

            Then the Clemens quote will no longer be true.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          For what is important to me, I can’t think of being a citizen anywhere else. But other people have different priorities.

          1. Rufus the Monocled

            But you’re so close to the Canadian border! Come….hither….

          2. MikeS

            Don’t do it, HM! It’s a trap, eh!

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            There is a whole section of my family in Toronto.

            I saw what happened to them. (Mainly, they became millionaires through a multi-location dental clinic.)

      2. Tundra

        I can only speak to my own family. Most stayed and became citizens. Some went back after awhile. My great-grandfather did consider the US to be the best place on earth and was very motivated to be an American. His brother went back to Italy (although there are rumors that he left here in a hurry).

        I’m cool with a guest-worker program and a path for those who want to stay.

        1. Rufus the Monocled

          He didn’t like the carbonara, eh?

          1. creech

            Grossed out by deep dish “pizza?”

      3. Viking1865

        It’s solely for Democrat electoral purposes. If you flipped the political allegiance of poor Latino immigrations from 2/3s Dem to 2/3s R, the Democrats would be the ones demanding The Wall. The whole thing is purely about shaping the electorate, the Dems need more bodies. The GOP movers and shakers like the cheap labor, the Dem movers and shakers like the votes. Which is why they want citizenship, not guest workers. They need the votes, to be guided by the white elite Democrats who spent their 30s in their political careers and never bothered to have children. Or that’s the plan anyway.

        Sarah Palin has five kids and five grandkids at 54. Hillary! has 1 kid and 2 grandkids, at 71. Parents political beliefs remain the strongest indicator for a persons political beliefs. Republicans have kids, and grandkids. Democrats are more likely to marry late or not at all, and have fewer or no children. The people who really call the shots in the Dems know that this is a huge issue for them going forward. You can’t win elections, without having people to vote for you.

        1. Suthenboy

          Looking at where the D party is at right now they think they have succeeded. They have gone full blown socialist batshit.

          Free medical care
          Free university
          Free UBI
          and
          Open borders

          It is insane. I mean clinically insane. If they get their way the country will be destroyed in very short order.
          That is what they have been after all along anyway. I just dont understand the pathology of anyone who wants desperately to destroy the greatest country in the history of the world.

          1. Stinky Wizzleteats

            “greatest country in the history of the world”

            That’s racist (somehow).

          2. I just dont understand the pathology of anyone who wants desperately to destroy the greatest country in the history of the world.

            They think it’s evil and oppressive. They literally believe that we’re no better off than [insert civilization from antiquity] because they are envious, spoiled, emotion driven children who buy into economic fairy tales and distorted historical fiction.

        2. Rufus the Monocled

          Palin must be such a pig in bed.

        3. R C Dean

          You can’t win elections, without having people to vote for you.

          Its not who votes that counts. Its who counts the votes. The Dems have prepped the battlefield and have piloted various schemes for making sure they never lose an election where they have control of the voting machinery, and have a plan to seize control of that machinery.

          Their demographic plan to swap out unreliable white middle class votes is nice and all, but its really just a backup plan.

  38. The Late P Brooks

    Epstein told Bill that he was just running a shelter for runaways. You can’t blame him for not thinking more of all the scantily clad 16 year olds running about.

    “The P Brooks Charitable Home for Wayward Girls” has a nice ring to it. I just need to find a matronly headmistress to throw Child Welfare off the scent.

    1. Suthenboy

      ‘Hell is having your dreams come true.’ Maybe a better descriptive would be ‘Let pigs in the house and pretty soon you are stomping around in pig shit’.
      I knew a lawyer in Mississippi that ran just such an operation. I think he picked them up at the bus station and took the poor dears in. What a generous and caring guy.
      You cant believe the shit he was embroiled in all of the time.
      Yes, he finally ended up disbarred and in jail.

    2. Count Potato

      Live footage from Heroic Mulatto’s School For Girls

      https://twitter.com/austinmarcus123/status/1090461998549094400

      1. Suthenboy

        Fail. There is no twerking in that scene.

      2. Heroic Mulatto

        The Haruhi dance occurs daily at 7:00 AM sharp.

    3. /spits coffee

      The who doin’ what now?

  39. The Late P Brooks

    What a clusterfuck

    St. Louis Metropolitan Police Commissioner John Hayden angrily denounced criticism of the investigation into a fatal game of Russian roulette involving two officers as “unwarranted, certainly untimely, and absolutely irresponsible.”

    On Tuesday, Circuit Attorney Kimberly M. Gardner, who is tasked with investigating the killing of 24-year-old officer Katlyn Alix, said police had used an “obstructionist tactic” during the investigation of her death. Gardner also said police had initially called the shooting an accident, which was “completely inappropriate.”

    But on Thursday, Hayden slammed Gardner’s criticism in an angry press conference. He said the detectives assigned to the case had investigated hundreds of homicides and dozens of officer-involved shootings and that he trusted they followed the law.
    The allegation that they acted inappropriately was “offensive and insulting,” Hayden said. He also said he initially described the shooting as an accident before he learned that the circumstances were “more reckless and dangerous” than what was originally understood.

    And-

    Alix took the gun and pulled the trigger while pointing at Hendren, but it did not fire, the statement said. Hendren grabbed the gun back from Alix, pulled the trigger, and this time it fired, striking Alix in the chest, the document said. She was taken to the hospital and was pronounced dead shortly after arrival.

    The other on-duty officer, who has not been named, advised Alix and Hendren they shouldn’t be playing with guns and left the room, according to the probable cause statement.

    Professionalism of the highest order.

    I don’t know how it works in St Louis, but up here, an “officer involved” shooting is investigated by cops from a different jurisdiction (for reasons which should be all too obvious).

    1. Suthenboy

      This is like the Houston disaster where the spokescop put his outrage on the teevee. I think he doth protest too much.

    2. KSuellington

      Just a friendly late nite game of Russian Roulette between on duty cop friends at an off duty cop’s home. Nothing really to see there. Accidents happen, you know?

    3. I watch a televised local sports radio show called The Sports Junkies, and one of their deals is that they talk about a lot of other stuff: current events, movies, kinda just whatever. Well, they have a guy who was formerly the police chief for Baltimore, Kevin Clark. He’d just retired from police work and now works as a private consultant, and it was the first time they’d had him on since that was the case. So, they asked him about this. Previously, when they asked him about cop stuff, he’d give very PC answers. This time, he was like, “It was a threesome gone wrong.” Like dead certain. The hosts were a little stunned, and pressed him on it. It turned into a fairly long interview, where he basically dropped the following gems.

      1. Baltimore City Police Department is every bit as corrupt as the rumors say, and the rest of the city government is as bad if not worse.
      2. Police, especially in their 20s, are unstable, prone to crazy Bachelor Island shit like threesomes involving pointing loaded weapons at each other during sex.
      3. “Accidental” shootings are very, very rare. They’re…overreported and misdiagnosed, let’s say.

      1. KSuellington

        I was thinking that or something along the lines of the young female cop banging both of these guys on the side (she was married) and when one of them found out, her getting the losing hand.

        1. I’ll bet it was something along the lines of her getting a little too talky about the affair and one or both of the guys deciding that she needed to go before word got out and they lost their jobs.

  40. The Late P Brooks

    I wonder if Bathurst has gotten the green flag.

  41. Chipwooder

    So it seems Northam is refusing to resign. The funny part is that, while he admitted he was in the picture yesterday, now he’s reversing himself and telling Dems that he wasn’t in the picture. Which is hilarious – “oh, wait a minute, I was mistaken! I wasn’t the guy in blackface or the Klan good after all!”

    1. straffinrun

      The guy is full of shit. If he leaves are we gonna get anyone better? They’ll probably lose in 2020, so maybe we will. Who knows?

      1. Viking1865

        VA governors can only serve one term, then they have to leave. They can come back four years after leaving, but few people do. You cannot run for reelection as governor, have to take four years off and theoretically go do something productive.

        That, plus the fact that the state legislature is still a part time legislature, are two of the only things keeping the wolves at bay. If we had a full time legislature and a re-electable governor, this would be Terry McAuliffe’s Kingdom.

      2. R C Dean

        The Lieutenant Governor used to be a honcho at Planned Parenthood, if that gives you a clue.

    2. Akira

      the Klan good after all

      CHIPWOODER CONFIRMED AS DIE-HARD KKK SUPPORTER

    3. Suthenboy

      It is starting to look like there is a fair amount of projection on the left.

      1. Akira

        That kind of ties in with something I was pondering the other day:

        Whenever a right-wing person makes a comment that is racist or can be construed as racist, the Left jumps all over them and holds it up as just one more piece of proof that they’re all horrible racists. But when someone on the Left makes such a comment, two things happen: 1) The bar for what constitutes “racist” is significantly raised, and 2) The comments are written off as being misspoken, taken out of context, so old as to be irrelevant, or any other number of excuses. There are frequently admonishments to “move on to the real issues” since the person has issued a public apology.

        The same goes for just plain stupid comments. We still never hear the end of Mr. Legitimate Rape; meanwhile, I could fill a library with quotes from Democrats that reveal an embarrassing lack of knowledge of firearms, yet nobody on the Left sees this as significant in any way.

        1. Suthenboy

          A) They dont give a fuck about anything other than power for power’s sake and B) The form of government here, strong family values and the chance of economic success for all is an impediment to their grabbing total power.

          Keeping that in mind every seeming cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy they engage in makes perfect sense.
          I dont get the people that look at the left and get frustrated “How can you say this thing and that other thing too?”
          If you do not yet understand that saving fuzzy caterpillars, murdering babies and allowing floods of foreign children into the country all serve the same end, then I dont know what to say.

          1. A) They dont give a fuck about anything other than power for power’s sake and B) The form of government here, strong family values and the chance of economic success for all is an impediment to their grabbing total power.

            QFT.

            You are never going to pin a prog down to their own standards. This is classic Marx. Each class has its own reality, and bourgeois logic doesn’t apply to the proletariat. Try to apply bourgeois logic to a prole, and you’re oppressing them.

        2. What do you mean? It’s totally feasible that if everyone stood on one side of Guam it would flip over like a styrofoam plate in a bathtub.

    4. Rhywun

      Wow. What a dumbass.

      1. Brochettaward

        Do you remember every time you wore blackface and whether someone took a picture of it? Because I sure don’t.

        1. Suthenboy

          I know I dont either.
          The only one I remember is being in white face in a Jr. HS halloween play ( I played the skeleton).

      2. Viking1865

        He has nothing to lose and everything to gain. He’s daring his own party to impeach him. You need 2/3s of the Senate. There’s 21 GOP, 19 Dem in this VA Senate. So you need all 21 Republicans to vote, plus 6 Dems. But if the GOP decides to be trolltastic, they could do all manner of fuckery. They could demand a full investigation and just nuke this Assembly session with interviewing classmates of Northam’s.

    5. Scruffy Nerfherder

      If he resigns, his political career is over.

      1. Bingo. He knows the game. Hell, his party wrote the rules. It’s a game of chicken, and if you blink first, you lose.

      2. Chipwooder

        It’s over anyway.

  42. Rufus the Monocled

    How many times have I said Norm is the greatest in the world?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByMMUmZYj6o&feature=youtu.be

    1. Rufus the Monocled

      Start around the 1:50m mark.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Yeah, I love Norm. He was one if the best SNL Weekend Update guys. Lorraine Michaels didn’t find him funny. That’s probably why 90% of every SNL episode is not funny.

    1. Brochettaward

      The left’s propaganda aimed at Gabbard is making me want to register as a Dem and vote for her if given the chance in a primary.

      1. AlmightyJB

        I think she would have a shot in the general election but I don’t think the DNC will let her win the primary. Their social media bots will be all over that.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder

      Whatever you do, don’t undermine the Russia narrative, it’s too fruitful.

      1. Suthenboy

        it keeps their base riled up, that’s for sure. Aside from them I dont think anyone buys that insanity.

    3. Suthenboy

      I am confused. Anyone who disagrees with the left is…a nazi? Or in league with the Russians? Which is it?

      1. AlmightyJB

        Both. Plus knuckle dragging neandrathal.

      2. Who could’ve seen an alliance between the Russians and the Nazis given how WW2 played out?

  43. The Late P Brooks

    Palin must be such a pig in bed.

    As in, “More, more, harder, harder”?

    1. Viking1865

      Drill baby drill.

    2. AlmightyJB

      Would roll in mud with.

  44. Spudalicious

    FYI on the Buscemi video for those not aware. That was completely computer generated, he had no part in it.

  45. The Late P Brooks

    Another hat in the ring

    Asked by Fox News how she would pay for Medicare for all, Gillibrand explained that competition would lower prices.

    “What I would ideally love is if every American would have the right to buy into Medicare at four percent of their income in the same way you buy into Social Security,” she said.

    “If you did that you would create so much competition, I don’t think the private insurers would be able to compete because they’re far too concerned about their profits,” Gillibrand added. “That competition alone will displace them, it will disrupt that industry. That is how you get to single-payer.”

    She predicted that phasing out private insurers is “going to happen because they can’t compete…The reason why our health care system is so ineffective and not universal is because there’s a middle man. The middle man is the insurance industry and they put a lot of fat into the system.”

    Sounds legit.

    1. AlmightyJB

      Facepalm

    2. Suthenboy

      Politician from NY claims single payer would promote competition and drive prices down.
      Trying to make Gulag Barbie look smart, sane and well informed?

    3. Wait. So is she saying I can choose not to pay into Social Security? Sick! Who do I call?

    4. Raven Nation

      “The reason why our health care system is so ineffective and not universal is because there’s a middle man.”

      So close.

    5. R C Dean

      The reason why our health care system is so ineffective and not universal is because there’s a middle man. The middle man is the insurance industry and they put a lot of fat into the system.”

      Isn’t single payer just making the government the middle man? But you never see the government putting a lot of fat in the system, so its all good?

      1. Akira

        But you never see the government putting a lot of fat in the system, so its all good?

        That’s the part nobody thinks about. If healthcare were nationalized, its employees would unionize and drive healthcare costs through the fucking roof, just like what happened when school employees started unionizing. Costs skyrocketed and actual results stagnated or declined.

        1. creech

          Aren’t all doctors in France in two unions? I recall one of the unions went on strike, for like a day, and then the government ordered them back to work and gave them a small raise. I’m sure most U.S. doctors would love that scenario.

    6. Akira

      In my opinion, the biggest problems in the healthcare industry are the government’s efforts to make insurance into something that it’s not – the primary way to pay for healthcare. Insurance is for low probability, high cost events.

      The question should never have been “how can we mail out insurance cards to as many people as possible” but rather “why has the industry come to a point where care is unaffordable without insurance, and what might the government have done that led to that situation?”

    7. creech

      “The middle man is the insurance industry and they put a lot of fat into the system.”
      This is true to some extent, because they need an army of clerks to process little Joey’s flu shot and Mom’s wart removal. Can you imagine what auto insurance would cost if they had to shuffle payment paperwork for your bottle of windshield wiper fluid and detail wax job?

  46. The Late P Brooks

    “It was a threesome gone wrong.”

    The male cop shot the female cop for stealing his boyfriend?

    I find this credi9ble.

    1. Well, from what dude was talking about during the interview it seemed like he thought there were three possibilities: the female cop was going to talk about something that would get them in trouble; one dude was jealous and killed her in a fit of rage, or; they were all wildly intoxicated on who knows what and one of them thought it would be neat to see what shooting someone was like. Whatever it was, it was not in any way accidental.

      The broader takeaway was that if there was ever any doubt in your mind as to whether or not you should ever call the police for any reason at all, get rid of it. Never, ever, ever, ever call the police. Picture the kind of young adults you see getting tribal tattoos on their biceps and arguing with each other outside of a bar after too many Fireball shots. Now give them guns, handcuffs, authority, and a mission to keep people in check. That’s the police.

      1. Rhywun

        Jersey Shore PD?

        *shudder*

      2. R C Dean

        Now give them guns, handcuffs, authority, immunity, and a mission to keep people in check.