The Night Shift for October 12, 2019

 

Going by results, it seems my weirdness wasn’t exactly a crowd-pleaser.  Either that, or, all the autumnal types were busy getting their Fall on.  Or, could it be that Friday nights are the answer?   Well over 900 comments is a tough act to follow, although I did seem to get a new nickname out of it (H/T to Gender Traitor).  Oh, well—time to get Diggy with it…

 

Here’s something to set the mood for the night.  (What??  I’m a guy of many facets…)

Yes, yes—my weekly go-to.

Sir Digby topic:  I am considering getting certified as a Gemologist through the GIA.  I’m not looking for a new career, exactly.  This is an area that I like (gemstones), and something that, while pricey, could probably be accomplished fairly quickly, and give me other job options, should I want/need them.  I don’t exactly relish the idea of standing around in a suit all day, just to sell some high-priced baubles.  But, that isn’t the only type of gemologist work, either.  Do any of you have experience with later-in-life career changes?  How about delayed education or career training?  (Anyone have any jeweler-type contacts you could share?)  I’d like input on this, especially for issues I may not be considering.

Combining two things with which I am somewhat familiar:  Crime, and, humor.

I hate to say it, but, I don’t think we’ve heard the last in the Botham Jean murder case.  Between the Judge/Bible brouhaha, the subsequent murder of one of the witnesses, and, the appeal that I would think is forthcoming, it seems like this may stay in the media longer than the Las Vegas massacre.  I haven’t seen anything in-depth about the investigation yet.  However, I find it odd that the DA was able to effectively “prove” intent, while using arguments that seems to show recklessness, effectively making it manslaughter.  Don’t take this to mean that I think the officer isn’t culpable for his homicide—she should be doing time.  Maybe the 10 years—which will likely be somewhere around three or four year, barring any troubles inside—is a type of compromise?  What do you think?

For your consideration:  Beautiful caves.  (Not a euphemism)

Do you have a favorite restaurant, store, hang-out, etc, in your area?  Either some place you prefer to spend time and/or money, or, a place that you would gladly recommend to people you like (tolerate) who visit your area.  Yeah, this is me continuing my “getting to know you”, glib outreach project, and is further inspired by Florida Man’s posts.  For instance, in my area, I would recommend La Hacienda Ranch, owned by the guy who invented the frozen margarita machine.  A restaurant chain for good drinks, the best guacamole I’ve ever had, as well as the best fajitas.  And, not having pets, I like to go dog-watching at this spot every so often.  Tell us about your haunts.

An obvious song choice, by a not-so-obvious performer.  Is it just me, or does this actually kick some ass??

I plan on asking you out for next week, so, clear your calendar.

And, be sure to wear something loose…

Comments

475 responses to “The Night Shift for October 12, 2019”

  1. CPRM

    Sorry to go OT right away, didn’t read this yet, I will, but this was on my mind before the new thread dropped. Sorry it has to be in two posts, because of link limits:

    I’m watching Titans Season 2. They made it very clear in Season 1 they were into MUH DIVERSITAY! by making Starfire look like this.

    1. Sir Digby

      Prostitution diversity??

      1. Urthona

        In fact, I think that’s actually kind of her job when the show starts.

    2. CPRM

      But Season 2 has Aqualad. The most popular version now of Aqualad is from Young Justice. Why the fuck!? Who the fuck!? Fuck!?

      1. Urthona

        You know, I don’t care if they switch races around. What’s only funny to me is when a new show obviously goes out of its way to so very carefully craft its cast to be as woke as possible.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          What race analogue should “orange” be?

          1. Pan Zagloba

            You ask that in Trump’s America? Your First Orange President’s Age?

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            I served the ball up for you to spike it, friend.

          3. Chafed

            A Trump kid obviously.

          4. Jarflax

            Well green is apparently analogous to cafe con leche vice Gamora/Zoe Saldana, so Orange should be two shades whichever direction (lighter or darker) we assign to the blue end of the spectrum.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        That’s double-stupid, since the Young Justice guy is Aqualad in the comics, too. Maybe because he’s not on the “Titans” team, but over on “Teen Titans”? But then again, so were Raven and Starfire…

  2. One of my close family members is a “credentialed” gemologist through GIA. I don’t think that they would recommend it at this point. Limited job options to make any kind of real money.

    1. Sir Digby

      What do they do for work?

      1. They went through the regular stuff. After receiving a BFA in jewelry design and metalwork, went on to get the gemologist cert, worked as a designer and jeweler, went on to the Diamond Exchange and then a bead company. Not many complimentary things to say about the high end world, which is the only way to make real money, and then, it’s mostly who you know (like most everything, it seems). There is freelance work as an insurance appraiser, though.

        They left the field about 5 years ago. Completely fed up.

        1. Sir Digby

          Yeesh….guess I’ll have to learn to code.

          1. Gustave Lytton

            Haven’t you been reading about men not being able to offer women an economic payoff? Learn to cook.

          2. Sir Digby

            men not being able to offer women an economic payoff

            I’m already there. Plus, while I can cook well enough the things I like, that’s pretty limited, and I’m not gonna suddenly be OK testing foods I don’t like…

  3. MikeS

    Hi.

    1. Sir Digby

      It’s about ti-

      Hi, Mike!

    2. Chafed

      One more comment closer to 900.

      1. Sir Digby

        Heh!

  4. Spudalicious

    The son of some friends of ours just finished all of his GIA tests. He’s been successful in the jewelry business, but I’m not sure how well this is going to serve him.

  5. Gender Traitor

    Another musical link in keeping with the “moon” theme. The gal singing on the first song (the redhead pictured on the right on the album cover) is who I wanted to be when I grew up.

    1. Gender Traitor

      (P.S. Hi, Diggy!)

      1. Sir Digby

        Howdy, ma’am ?

        Thanks for the music!

  6. MikeS

    I am not comfortable with Guyger being found guilty of the murder of Jean. In my (likely wrong) thinking, murder must show willful intent. It’s not like she decided on the way home to shoot her upstairs neighbor. Manslaughter; absolutely. Murder; I don’t see it.

    1. CPRM

      I just don’t buy the ‘Oh, it was a long day, I just walked into the wrong apartment.’ story, there is something more there.

      1. Sir Digby

        I think it is more than simply “Oh, tired”, but, not exactly intentional.

      2. Urthona

        I believe that she walked into the wrong apartment absolutely.

        That’s one part the defense actually proved extremely well.

        In fact, pretty much everyone in the damned building did it as a matter of course.

        I’m surprised no one is suing the building owners.

        1. Rhywun

          In fact, pretty much everyone in the damned building did it as a matter of course.

          I didn’t follow this that closely.

          How does this happen?

    2. Heroic Mulatto

      murder must show willful intent

      Correct. That’s why the prosecution asked her “when you pulled the trigger, did you intend to kill him?” And Guyger answered “yes.”

      1. straffinrun

        That’s usually the case when you pull the trigger while aiming at someone.

        1. Heroic Mulatto

          Thus, she was fucked.

      2. MikeS

        I’m going to move the goalposts because I’m drunkish.

        Motive. What was the motive?

        1. Urthona

          She saw some dude coming out of the dark, was confused, thought it was probably her apartment, blew him away.

          1. MikeS

            She saw some dude coming out of the dark, was confused, thought it was probably her apartment, blew him away.

            FIFY

          2. Urthona

            yeah. Or I should’ve said “probably” thought it was her apartment. I do believe that part though.

          3. Pan Zagloba

            Prosecutor claimed he was eating ice cream, which I find more plausible if there was also “smell of marijuana” in the air.

          4. CPRM

            Yeah, that defense didn’t work for Rip Torn.

        2. Heroic Mulatto

          What was the motive?

          The motive is that, in the moment, she wanted to kill him. That’s why it’s 2nd degree and not 1st.

          1. MikeS

            *looks up definition of 2nd degree*

            OK, no premeditation, but intentionally shot him. Murder 2.

            Thanks for the “head-slap”. I get it now.

        3. Jarflax

          Motive is NOT an element of the offense of murder. Intent is. If I intend to kill you because I sincerely, even correctly, believe that my killing you will cause unicorns with rainbow farts to arise and fuel green reactors, I have committed murder, because I intended to kill you and fueling reactors with clean unicorn farts is not a legal justification for murder. Justification is an on off switch. If an act is justified you are free to go. If it is not, no matter what you believed to be the case, you are on the hook for the crime your actions constituted. In this case murder 2.

          1. MikeS

            fueling reactors with clean unicorn farts is not a legal justification for murder

            …yet.

      3. Chafed

        HM is absolutely right about her testimony. I’d have to see Texas’ form jury instructions but many jurisdictions also include recklessness as an allowable mental state to find murder.

    3. straffinrun

      Was there any evidence presented that could indicate they had a bad history? Didn’t follow it closely.

      1. Urthona

        No. The prosecution didn’t really even dispute that she walked into the wrong apartment. She definitely did.

        They had all the neighbors testify though that she didn’t scream “stop” or “I’ve got a gun” or anything. And the fact that she’s supposedly a trained professional if anything makes her more responsible.

        And they really did a number on her character (which imo was pretty irrelevant, though);.

        1. straffinrun

          The “trained professional” part makes me ?.

          1. Urthona

            Yeah. I know. Ha. But I mean she was not some scared little woman who someone tried to rape the year before and went out and got a gun. This makes her behavior way less excusable in my book.

          2. straffinrun

            Her fellow cops, rather than lamenting the loss of an innocent life, examined their own souls and demanded they be held to a higher moral standard because they have a monopoly on the use of force.

            *Pats kiddo on the head and wishes him sweet dreams*

          3. straffinrun

            Screwed up my own snark.

    4. Pan Zagloba

      You’re conflating premeditation (“I’mma kill me that fucking asshole what plays his raps all night”) with intent (“oh, you asshole, I’m pulling my gun to put two in the chest, that’ll learn you”). Manslaughter would require her killing him without intent, like if she punched him and he hit his head on a sharp corner, or something.

      She was trespassing, so she had no reason to be there. She could have left. But she feared for her life, so instead of ordering him to freeze or hands up, she just blasted him away. If she was a non-police non-woman, we wouldn’t be even discussing this.

      1. Urthona

        I felt 10 years was about right, though. I’m not a legal expert admittedly. There’s political anger though also because the victim is black.

        I probably know too much about this because I’m local to the story, and the media was just nonstop on this.

        The “witness” that was killed was not a key witness. He was one of the neighbors who testified that she didn’t say anything to him before blasting. A bunch of others aid the same. And someone had tried to kill that dude the year before and shot him. He was a drug dealer and possible gang affiliation. I’m not really sold that this is a retaliation put on by Dallas police or anything.

        1. Sir Digby

          Wait…you’re DFW?

          1. Urthona

            Yup.

          2. Sir Digby

            Dammit…I’m over by Frisco!

            You up for glib-ups?

          3. Urthona

            I’m in Plano.

            Sure.

          4. Sir Digby

            Dang! And, last I heard, our missing Gojira lives in Plano, too.

            Unless… Nah, couldn’t be.

            You can hit me up on protonmail.com

            sir.digby.71

      2. Gustave Lytton

        But she feared for her life, so instead of ordering him to freeze or hands up, she just blasted him away.

        This part continues to bother me. She was the trespasser, even if inadvertent. As the lawful resident, if he used the threat of force or even used force, to defend himself and his property, it would be justifiable. To use that lawful use or threat of use as a justification for escalated behavior by the trespasser is BS. Or would be if she didn’t have a badge.

        1. Urthona

          She didn’t *know* she was trespasser though. Hence why this case is so interesting.

    5. Jarflax

      Intent is a lower bar than premeditation. 1st degree murder requires premeditation. ie that you planned to kill. some degree of prior (need not be long prior) planning. other degrees of murder simply require intent or in some cases depraved indifference/reckless disregard. ie that you meant to kill the person at the moment you shot, or you did something like blazing away at a house which any sane person would know was likely to kill someone. Manslaughter is two things, either killing someone accidentally, but by a course of action that was sufficiently negligent that you can be held culpable for the death, or in a blind passion, caught your best friend in bed with your wife and instantly shot them, or beat someone to death in a fight where you had no intent of killing them. I hear people saying this case should be manslaughter but I do not see it. She shot and killed him, that is deliberate at least, and could be premeditated. Self defense is a justification for a killing, but this was manifestly not self defense. Even taking her claims at face value she deliberately killed him, she did not kill him by mistake (which would be manslaughter) her ‘mistake’ was about whether or not she was justified in killing him, and to me once the justification fails, because he was NOT in her apartment, she becomes legally responsible for her actual action, which was to deliberately kill him, ie. murder.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Even if it were her apartment, I think a good case could be made that if she felt afraid for her life, she didn’t properly exercise a duty to retreat.

        1. Urthona

          That for me is absolutely the clincher.

          *and* that’s why they had every single damned neighbor testify that she didn’t say anything, attempt to leave the situation, or anything.

          Her behavior was quite reckless.

        2. Sir Digby

          No DTR in Texas if it’s your property habitation, plus some other factors that may or may not be at play. It wasn’t her’s, but, did she reasonable believe it was?

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            Yes, but the Castle Doctrine/DTR assume that you are already in your house when the intruder attempts forcible entry. If you’re in your front yard and you see a dude trying to climb through your bedroom window, you can’t just Judge Dredd him without consequence with a castle defense.

          2. Sir Digby

            True, which is why I added the other stuff. That said, you don’t necessarily have to retreat in the scenario you described–you have the right to see what’s going on on your property/in your home.

          3. Rhywun

            I can’t get past the idea that she thought she was in her own apartment. The train of coincidences required to make that a reality is just too incredible.

          4. Urthona

            That part I am pretty convinced of.

        3. Chafed

          Castle Doctrine. In most states, you don’t have a duty to retreat in your own home.

        4. MikeS

          Why should you be expected to retreat from your own home?

          1. Urthona

            Haha. yeah. It’s a cool case actually.

            Yet everyone is so f*cking 100% confident that there’s only one way to see it.

          2. Heroic Mulatto

            That’s a good question that you should ask the Vermont legislature, as it’s the only state without a SYG law and DTR in all cases.

      2. Urthona

        Possibly.

        But still it’s very very interesting.

        Let’s assume for a second that she really believed she was defending herself. What if you *believe* it’s self defense? From your perspective, is it not still moral?

        1. Jarflax

          Nope, self defense has an objective component because the other person also has a right to their life. You don’t get to be wrong about the threat unless the mistake was because the other person did something that reasonably caused you to believe they were a threat. Her error in entering his apartment does not excuse her mistake that he was a threat. He did not cause the mistake, she did. If I pull a toy gun on you in an alley and you shoot me, I caused the mistake and you can claim self defense and win. If I eat ice cream in my house and you break in by mistake you cannot.

          1. Urthona

            You’re still arguing from a legal perspective though. And I believe the “was it reasonable” to be believe her life was in danger argument was brought up by our own R C Dean in the original discussion of this. And is a good one.

            But that’s not actually the point I was making.

            If you truly believe you are defending yourself and kill someone what *moral* crime have you committed?

            Have you committed the legal crime of murder without committing the moral sin of murder?

          2. Jarflax

            No I am not. I handled that below. I am saying flat out you have a moral obligation to be right before you kill someone. The only exception I accept is that if the mistake was caused by another person you can be excused. You own your errors.

          3. Urthona

            I agree you do. Though clearly there are degrees, right? Is a mistake in judgment exactly the same morally as a killing of vengeance?

          4. Jarflax

            Sure, and to refer back to the case at hand the legal way to handle that is to sentence her to 10 years, instead of 20, which is what happened. Morally degree of fault is between you and your God.

        2. CPRM

          Reality is objective, not subjective. Lots of sick people do sick things and think they are in the right. Without clear objective bounds, laws are useless. Hence why the whole cop line of ‘feared for my life’ is so repulsive.

          1. Urthona

            My point was not about whether it was legal though.

          2. CPRM

            The law should be as objective as reality, that is the only fair way to meter justice.

    6. DrOtto

      Allow me to put on my tinfoil hat and suggest, Botham was not the intended target, but the neighbor (who was subsequently killed) was, and that Guyger was in the wrong apt, and that she thought she was in the neighbor’s apt. She was a crooked cop that ended up in the wrong apt. If they do it on sanctioned calls, whose to say it doesn’t happen on “off the clock” escapades.

      1. CPRM

        Meh; I just think she had some prior beef with him, killed him, and her friends killed this other dude. I don’t wear a tinfoil hat, just a yamaka, so maybe them radio waves seep in.

  7. Festus

    Hey Diggy! You might be on to something with that Friday night idea. It seems like everyone blows their wad and needs a little recuperative time.

    1. Sir Digby

      That’s what I fear, as it seems that this fits Saturdays so well. In theory.

      But, yeah; seems most get it out of their systems on Fridays.

      1. Easy enough to change nights. But you have to tell me that’s what you want to do.

        1. Sir Digby

          Gotcha. Trying to feel up out the audience, I guess.

          1. Festus

            “Oh that Digby! Will he ever learn?” Such a scamp! You’re one of the funniest commentors on this site so I hope that you soldier on.

          2. Gustave Lytton
          3. dbleagle

            Could it have been any other song?

            Welcome back earworm.

          4. Chafed

            Not so fast SD. It may have been a one off.

          5. Sir Digby

            Right–trying to keep watch on it all.

  8. CPRM

    The place where I like to spend all my time, my house. I friggin love this place. Oh there places to buy beer and meat to bring back to the house. But mostly the house.

    1. Sir Digby

      OK, but, you aren’t hosting lots (any?) strangers during business hours, are you?

      1. CPRM

        Glibs aren’t strangers. Just unidentified psychopaths. I think I’m at the point after meeting a few I’ll just open my doors to all. Good drinks, and sound systems that work, unlike Mike’s.

        1. Sir Digby

          sound systems that work

          Heh..

          He got ya, Mike…

          1. MikeS

            Oh, it works. I just have to get up off my lazy ass to adjust the volume. Unacceptable!!!!!

  9. Heroic Mulatto

    However, I find it odd that the DA was able to effectively “prove” intent, while using arguments that seems to show recklessness, effectively making it manslaughter.

    From my cursory reading about the case and some courtroom transcripts, I believe that this was due to the incompetence of the defense lawyers. At one point during the cross-examination, the prosecution basically stated the legal definition of murder and asked Guyger if she did that, and she answered “yes”. I wonder what sort of preparation her lawyers gave her before cross-examination.

    1. Sir Digby

      I hadn’t heard about that (didn’t do any real research). I am kind of shocked that a big-city cop, in Texas, had such ineffectual counsel. Most Texas union-type orgs for police are understood to have pretty competent attorneys.

    2. Urthona

      Also, they just want on and on about the affair she was having which had jack shit to do with the case.

      I mean part of the game is making the jury hate the person, and they were given a long leash to do that. I only know legal stuff from television so I’m thinking to myself couldn’t the defense argue all this shit was irrelevant? Maybe not. Not sure how it works in real life.

      1. Trust me. I graduated from the University of Law & Order.

        1. Festus

          Upstairs CSI Finding Out Things College?

          1. That’s right! With all those cool uber-tech toys.

          2. Festus

            Super-model co-workers for the win! Plus I get to shout “Clear!” every time I enter the room.

          3. Oh, no, that’s down the hall from Grey’s Anatomy Institute.

          4. Festus

            Grey’s Anatomy School of Healthful Stuff and Yearning Gazes? I think I knew a chick that went there.

        2. Urthona

          Exactly. In legal drama there is no way the lawyer let’s that shit stand.

          Also, why is everyone so much less attractive?

    3. Chafed

      There is a good chance she testified this way because that’s how she testified on a regular basis as a cop. If she was on duty and did this then she is in “reasonable fear for her life.” Ergo, it’s a good shoot and our hero in blue made it home safely. That night she was off duty and there was no way to paint the victim as the aggressor. That preprogrammed response now proves second degree murder.

      Also, her failure to render first aid and the texts (or calls, I forget which) she made immediately after shooting him shows she was trying to cover her ass.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Agreed wholeheartedly.

        1. Festus

          ^ This. I remain unconvinced that those two did not have a history because I’m cynical like that.

      2. DrOtto

        Godammit, I could have scrolled a little and saw it stated much more clearly…

    4. DrOtto

      Ask any cop if when they intend to shoot, if it’s to kill and they are going to say yes. The real poor strategy was for her to take the stand.

  10. straffinrun

    Stalagmites might reach the ceiling or might reach the floor? Mnemonic devices confuse me.

    1. Sir Digby

      “Tite” is top…therefore, “mite” is bottom

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Tite down, mite up tag in Pornhub?

        1. straffinrun

          Righty Lucy, lefty tighty. Screws and fisting mnemonic devices on pornhub.

          1. Sir Digby

            Screws and fisting

            Best
            Night
            Ever
            ?

          2. westernsloper

            Machines. Machines is the only search term needed there.

  11. Gustave Lytton

    Continuing from the last thread, as good as Collective Soul is, they don’t have a Casio VL1 in one of their songs. Point Bloodhound Gang.

  12. CPRM

    Since I talked about Collective Soul in the last thread, and the Night Shift needs a theme song. My nomination.

    1. Sir Digby

      Not bad! Other than not having a direct “night” correlation, I may just use it later on.

    2. MikeS

      Seconded.

      1. Chafed

        Gay. This one is much more accurate.

        https://youtu.be/8Za0gWXJW1w

        1. Sir Digby

          Right now, Diggy’s saying to himself, “Why didn’t I think of that?!?”

          1. Chafed

            The question that answers itself.

        2. MikeS

          Seconded.

        3. Festus

          I would have gone with this one but I’m boring and old and still like hot girls – https://youtu.be/rwrazYUwqQI

          1. MikeS

            Seconded.

          2. Gender Traitor

            Wait! That’s your third second! ::head explodes::

          3. Sir Digby

            Do you think he knows about elevensies?

          4. Sir Digby

            Umm, Festus? I got some bad news about those “girls”…

          5. Festus

            Oh, I just disregard the soy-boy element but you do you. Back when song was big one of my buddies from work would sing “Blah blah blah blah blah blah” to the chorus. Cracked us up but I still hear that to this day.

          6. Sir Digby

            but you do you

            ::covers chromebook cam::

            Sure…..

  13. westernsloper

    My grandfather (step) was a gemologist but referred to himself as a rock hound because he liked to look for rocks and gems in the Mojave desert. He died. He was old. Not sure that helps.

    1. Sir Digby

      It does. Trying to determine what there is to do with that kind of training after retirement. Or, earlier, if things went South…

      1. Festus

        If nothing else it’s a cool hobby. Learning for Life!

        1. Sir Digby

          Well, I could get involved in the hobby side, without expending ~$15K for a certification.

          I’m not a ‘design’ person, so, dealing with the minerals would be more my speed. However, I am looking at something with which to make $ in the future.

          What SP said is telling, and something that I need to keep in mind as I continue my research.

  14. Mr. Mojeaux took me to La Bodega tapas bar, and we’ve taken OMWC there once (with Glibertesian) and then with OMWC and SP. Lovely time. Great food.

    Or, could it be that Friday nights are the answer?

    Yes, Friday.

    Someone around here likes Acoustic Alchemy as much as I do. I can’t keep up with who loves what.

    1. Ooooo! We love La Bodega!

      If we’d moved there instead of here, we could go with you. *sigh*

      1. Yeah, I very often think, “Dang, I wish they’d moved here.”

        1. Awww. And that’s even AFTER you met OMWC!

          1. Yeah, but I like weird stuff. ?

    2. Sir Digby

      Yes, Friday.

      Ok, that’s 2…or, maybe 1.5

  15. Tejicano

    A guy who I used to work with took a few weeks off to attend gemologist school. A few months after that he happened to find a diamond in a parking lot – IIRC it was about 1.1.5 carots. He only noticed it because of the color of the light reflecting from it.

    1. Tejicano

      …1.5 carots… couldn’t see the first “1.” on my phone. bleah..

      1. Festus

        And that little boy grew up to be… Bugs Bunny! Now you know the rest of the story.

  16. Two more songs I love. Too tired to be cute/funny about anything.

    Please Come Back to Stay – Tower of Power
    Rope on Fire – Morphine

    1. CPRM

      You have a rope on fire, what about a tightrope on fire?

      1. Not sure how I feel about that one. I’m going to have to listen to it a couple more times to decide if I like it.

        Morphine took me some getting used to, as did Amon Tobin.

        1. CPRM

          Agreed, that one is grower, not a shower, that’s why Why I’m Hear was their only hit.

        2. Festus

          Give this one a shot Mojy. Listen past the first few bars and it becomes a lovely song with a hopeful message. https://youtu.be/SWZzXg_plrk

  17. dbleagle

    As much as I loath the NY Yankees this amused me when I lived in Manhattan. At the end of every game they would play this song. Liza Minelli if they lost and Sinatra when they won. Minelli’s people threatened to sue if they didn’t give her some wins as well. The Yankees responded by just playing ‘ol Blue Eyes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUrUfJW1JGk

  18. Gender Traitor

    Favorite local hangout. Fell in love with the place the first time we went, mainly because it reminded us of the “country place” Mr. GT’s family used to have out in MO. Spring through autumn, musicians play out on the front porch on weekend evenings (weather permitting,) so you can sit out on the patio, sip your wine, listen to the tunes, and watch the sun set. (Easily accessible from Columbus, too. Just sayin’.)

    1. That looks like a very lovely place!

    2. Sir Digby

      Now, THAT is a hang!

  19. straffinrun

    One of my favorite Twitter accounts got booted. It was subtlety/not-so-subtlety racist. It was amazing how long it managed to evade the censors given how huge it’s following was. Not endorsing his views by any means, but RIP Weihan Zhang. Even a racist parrot can die in a coal mine.

    1. Gustave Lytton

      Is that the one that used broken English, and tweeted about Chinese girls dating non-Chinese (among others)?

      1. straffinrun

        Yep. It was vague enough to confuse the censors. And he was supposedly Chinese, so intersectional points.

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Not allow!

          1. Gustave Lytton

            (found some of the stuff in Google)

          2. straffinrun

            I am vomit.

          3. straffinrun

            Also, I’m the white guy he’s ridiculing. Hmmm. Doesn’t feel that bad.

          4. Jarflax

            I kind of give the Chinese dudes a pass on the racism of “NO miscegeny for Chinese girls!” thing. I understand how guys in a country with what has to be the highest ratio of male to female in all of history from the one child rule and Chinese cultural/economic imperatives to have sons and avoid daughters can get pissed when some gwailo snaps up the talent.

          5. Heroic Mulatto

            But then they turn around and straight up buy women from Burma and Laos for rural farmers.

          6. Jarflax

            I’m surprised at you HM. Never put consistency above getting some ass!

            Seriously though the one child rule has caused immeasurable suffering in a lot of ways.

          7. straffinrun

            I doubt he was Chinese. He was just fucking with everybody.

          8. Festus

            Your explanation gives new meaning to the plot of “Footloose”.

  20. dbleagle

    So back to the Moon theme. From an underrated gem of an album.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj6CW6OafNc&list=PLD9EDFD8F1E9C5D48&index=8

      1. Festus

        https://youtu.be/M2sqKPlMSeU In keeping with the Moon theme.

    1. Festus

      That’s my favorite Willie album.

  21. Pan Zagloba

    Comodious Spitoon may be gone to bed, but just in case, I’ll mention I was really disappointed in Return of the King, which continued the Jackson tradition of fucking things up to make everything pettier, stupider, blander and less epic that The Two Towers started, but did it to meaningful, important characters.

    Eowyn/Faramir romance is a 60 second scene in extended edition. Reading it made my heart melt and I was 11 at the time. Do you know how hard it is to get a 11 year old boy to not yell “enough shmoop, get back to sword fighting”?

    Faramir/Denethor relation of a stern father and younger son who never measured up, now disconnected because the Boromir, whom they both loved, is dead on a mission that should have been Faramir’s by right. Initially all I could think was “Denethor is a dick” but then Faramir is brought back and only then I understand “oh god, he loves his son as much as his son loves him, but they don’t know how to tell each other that.” Hey, I was 11.

    On that topic, when Faramir is ordered to retake Osgiliath, he doesn’t just lead cream of his army in a pointless charge.

    Entire character of Denethor. In the movie, he’s a pompous fool who becomes a raving lunatic so whole theatre can cheer when Gandalf hits him with the stick. In the book, he’s a seemingly wise and far-sighter strategist who understands the situation and does best with limited resources, so by the time he gets revealed as completely bonkers, it’s a shocking, staggering scene of conflicting emotion.

    Charge of the Rohirrim. Theoden’s goal in life is not to depopulate Rohan. He doesn’t stop and sportingly give a chance to his enemies to set up a proper pike wall to maximize losses of his cavalry. It should have been a bold, exciting scene of chaos and confusion as Orc General’s confidence crumbles when he realizes he was outplayed, his rearguard was bypassed and now angry heavy cavalry is savaging his rear ranks.

    Sam and Frodo in Mordor should have been a goddamn horror film. He’s a horror director, how did he fuck that up?

    And then you get a generation that bases its impression of Lord of the Rings on the movies and thinks books are simple, with no female characters, starkly good/evil characters, no drama, conflict or character development.

    1. Heroic Mulatto

      He’s a horror director, how did he fuck that up?

      He was a horror director. He moved on from his splatterpunk phase when people started taking him seriously.

      1. Pan Zagloba

        I was sure LotR was first time he was taken seriously, but then Heavenly Creatures, I guess?

        Although, after seeing They Shall Not Grow Old, he still understands the horror. Why couldn’t he draw on his knowledge on WW1 for Morder?

    2. CPRM

      You’re a fucking nerd. If Sam Jackson’s movies didn’t hit the spot, it’ll never happen. He was the last auteur to helm such a hefty project. It’s all corporate clowns from here on out.

      1. Heroic Mulatto

        Tarentino’s Star Trek could happen…

        1. Urthona

          Are you for reals?

          1. Urthona

            fuck yeah

          2. Sir Digby

            Seconded

            /with all apologies to MikeS

          3. Two years ago.

          4. Urthona

            So you’re telling me there’s a chance…

          5. Sir Digby

            It does get repeated in publications every now and again. I, for one, would watch….

        2. Jarflax

          Why are so many of you fans of Soviets in Space? The Federation is commietopia.

          1. Urthona

            Have you seen the new one?

            It absolutely is. It’s so fucking bad.

          2. Gustave Lytton

            TNG and onward.

            TOS it was officious bureaucrats and poontang happy drunks.

          3. The Federation is commietopia.

            That is why I only ever liked DS9. Everybody was flawed. They didn’t get along. They made bad decisions. And the Ferengis became the accidental heroes (well, at least to me). The rest of the STs could go to hell. I never understood how all those people could live together and not have strife of any consequence.

          4. Pan Zagloba

            DS9 is “Trek for people who hate Trek, but know what it is.”

            You’d think that’s an odd niche to target. You’d be right.

            Bab5 Bro here. Even though I caught it on DVD after it ended.

          5. Chafed

            The important thing is you saw B5.

          6. DS9 is “Trek for people who hate Trek, but know what it is.”

            Very apt, in my case.

          7. Akira

            I gotta say, I’m not a big sci-fi fan at all (mostly a historical fiction or classical literature dork) but DS9 is the only Trek I’ve contemplated watching. Mostly because the Breen are fucking badass.

          8. Rhywun

            The Breen were originally an inside joke IIRC, named after a producer’s kid or something. They were mentioned several times during TNG but weren’t seen until DS9.

            My favorite badass was the female shapeshifter. Holy crap was she terrifying.

          9. Heroic Mulatto

            Who said anything about the Federation?

            Garak and Quark.

          10. Jarflax

            Ok so you like the (((Space))). I liked the original show as a kid, and the first few movies I even liked the next generation briefly, but then they went more and more down the BS post scarcity economy, that somehow still had a hyper authoritarian hierarchical structure. And despite the clip, the Ferengi are portrayed with less nuance and decency than Shylock most of the time that I have seen.

          11. Rhywun

            You’re not wrong.

            I chalk it up to the galaxy of different writers they used.

          12. Heroic Mulatto

            , the Ferengi are portrayed with less nuance and decency than Shylock most of the time that I have seen.

            There was a noticeable shift in how the Ferengi were portrayed during the Dominion War story arc. That had a lot to do with Ira Steven Behr finally given the ability to write them in a three-dimensional way. We eventually see that most of what we’ve seen of the Ferengi and the Cardassians were through the eyes of the Federation, and the Federation (as represented by Sisko) is as bigoted as hell.

          13. Jarflax

            I had stopped watching by then, so I’ll take your word for it.

          14. Pan Zagloba

            I was told by a reliable source (mostly sober John Titor on the Discord) that end of DS9 left Ferengi as a woman-ruled, no longer plutocratic society in which accumulation of profit was no longer the driving force.

            As I said, I’m not a DS9 fan, but that still seemed odd yet plausible, given that Rom was more ‘commie’ than the entire crew of Enterprise-D put together in the episodes I did see…

          15. CPRM

            I always liked Quark, despite the writer’s attempts to make him ‘bad’.

          16. Heroic Mulatto

            @Pan

            At the end of DS9, Rom was the Grand Nagus, and he did institute “reforms”.

          17. Pan Zagloba

            At the end of DS9, Rom was the Grand Nagus, and he did institute “reforms”.

            I’m not 100% on the DS9 lore, but isn’t this literally how their Mirror Universe Federation died and was replaced by Nana Visitor in BDSM outfit?

          18. Rhywun

            Heh I knew exactly what that was going to be.

            + another vote for DS9

          19. Pan Zagloba

            Which is why most of the good Trek episodes take place away from it (also, bulk of the bad ones, thanks to Voyager).

            No, seriously. About 90% of jerking off about The Federation Iz COMMIE come from a single episode. Rest is some Ferengi shit from Season One.

            Balance of Terror. Conscience of Kings. Space Seed. The City on the Edge of Forever. Frame of Mind. Darmok. Best of Both Worlds. Chains Of Command part II. Inner Light. All Good Things.

            That’s why I’m a “fan” of Soviets in Space. Find me fucking commies in there.

            I do break ranks and side with normies when it comes to DS9 and after. Wasn’t made for me.

          20. Chafed

            I’d like to buy you a beer.

          21. Rhywun

            Inner Light was amazing.

            Most of my favorite episodes fuck with your mind in some way.

          22. Pan Zagloba

            That’s also why I have Frame of Mind there.

            The biggest mindfuck in that one was “Wait, Jonathan Frakes can act? And act WELL?!”

          23. Rhywun

            Ha. That is another favorite.

        3. CPRM

          Tarentino as an auteur gives the word a bad name. But I guess it works, auteurs don’t have to be good just have a singular vision, so ok, sure.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            YOU SHUT YOUR GODDAMN WHORE MOUTH!

          2. Pan Zagloba

            Hey, I don’t like Tarantino, either, but from what I can tell, the man does what he wants to do, and he does have a vision when he makes a movie.

          3. CPRM

            And his vision mostly involves feet and trunks. Gotta get that trunk shot in there, that’s how he got famous.

          4. I have to agree with HM on that. Tarantino is teh shit.

          5. CPRM

            Everyone is allowed to have wrong opinions. That’s why Kubrick and Coppala are so famous,

          6. Look, Coppola made a hawt film with one regrettable casting choice.

            Kubrick made a film that looks completely different when one is single from when one is married. It was like two different movies.

          7. CPRM

            Which films are you talking about?

          8. Coppola: Dracula

            Kubrick: Eyes Wide Shut

          9. Pan Zagloba

            I’ll take a guess….

            Apocalypse Now and The Shining.

          10. CPRM

            I did like Coppala’s Dracula. That’s it from him, and it did add too much that wasn’t needed, but was closest to the book.

            Never watched Eyes Wide Shut; sex parties don’t interest me for story telling, except if Richard Ayote is invited.

          11. It wasn’t really about the parties and IIRC, wasn’t nearly as graphic as what you linked.

            The wife admitted she’d had a little fantasy about a man they’d met while out at dinner.

            The husband didn’t know what to do with this information and was withdrawing from her, and went for a walk and saw strange things.

            It was about whether he was going to cheat on her in retaliation for her having a sexual fantasy that didn’t involve him.

          12. Urthona

            For some reason I’ve always loved Tarantino. I know they’re supremely self-indulgent and over the top … and… I just enjoy them.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        I’m quite satisfied with there being no other LotR movie ever. It beats the endless reboot mania.

        I did catch Aelita and, I don’t know if Rodrigez is an auteur, and I’m not sure if it was a good movie, but that shit was his vision, so respect to him.

        1. Sir Digby

          I’m not sure, either. I don’t think it was, considering the parts I didn’t pay attention to. But, yes–respect to him for making what he wanted.

    3. Jarflax

      You are harder on the movies than I am. I thought Jackson did a generally good job, but I see all the flaws you listed and agree with most of them. The only one where I think Jackson made the right choice (although some others I forgive because the movie was already at 3 films and 9 plus hours) was the Charge of Rohan. Forming the line before the charge is visually powerful, where a more immediate, irregular cavalry charge may have been tactically better it isn’t as visually impressive.

      1. Urthona

        Yeah. He overdid some stuff and missed out on a lot of nuances, but we will never see anyone come closer.

      2. Pan Zagloba

        Oh I’m fine with them forming a line and shit, pretty sure in the book they went in formation, not mob. But can we stop jerking off the Orcdom for five minutes, so they are actually surprised, even if we’re not?

        Most complaints I have boil down to that his characters end up stupider, simpler, shittier and less deep then they are in the books, for no reason I can conceive. It’s just character writing, not crazy special effects, or shit that requires 20 minutes of exposition.

        Denethor may be the most egregious, because I later saw the same actor on The Fringe, playing a crazy old coot who was once a wise, intelligent man and a stern father who couldn’t connect with his son. And he knocked that out of the park.

  22. dbleagle

    In lower Manhattan I would go to a dive bar called “The Patriot”. Inexpensive beer, a nice dive feel, elk, deer and javalina mounts and once you they got to know you very welcoming. Plus it had an inexpensive jukebox with classic country & western hooked up to a great sound system.

    In Tucson I would visit a little dive called the Baboquivari Lounge. The first time I went in was become of the name. “Babo” Is one of the only major mountains in Arizona which requires a roped ascent.

    In Hawaii the first place I take visitors is “La Marianna’s”. It is the last of the old style tiki bars. Food is meh, but drinking a tropical drink and watching the sailboats is a fitting welcome.

    In KC I enjoy the BBQ joint across the tracks from the train station. Their burnt ends when I lived there were awesome.

    1. Sir Digby

      “La Marianna’s”

      Interesting, as thee guy who owns the LaHa in my link is Mariano.

      Thanks for those mentions. May never see them, but, I also may.

    2. In KC I enjoy the BBQ joint across the tracks from the train station. Their burnt ends when I lived there were awesome.

      Jack Stack. Mr. Mojeaux took me there one. Valentine’s Day. It got flooded out. Every Christmas, we try to go down to the Country Club Plaza to the Jack Stack there, then wander around and look at the lights, then get cheesecake to go from the Cheesecake Factory. We didn’t get to do that last year and I was so hoping we could do that this year and it looks like we will!

      1. Spartacus

        i go to KC every June (AP exam reading), and we usually stay in the Westin at Crown Center. One or two Jack Stack trips are obligatory, especially since it’s an easy walk.

    3. Festus

      Used to hit up the Old American in Vancouver during my early-life crisis. Dank, dark, lotsa under the table dealings with thieves and punk bands every weekend. Where else to go to meet smelly chicks and buy steaks, cheese and batteries? The draft was as advertised.

  23. Heroic Mulatto
    1. Chafed

      You should publish your browser history as a coffee table book.

    2. MikeS

      She “lost” it in her big ass?

      1. Festus

        “Room for two!”

    3. DrOtto

      I Lol’d, now what – 3 Hail Mary’s or something?

  24. dbleagle

    Earlier this week I got into it with a leftie woman about Syria. When I got home I saw this and damn near lost it. I wanted so badly to send her this link and ask since she supports the never ending fight which setting she preferred for visiting her college daughter if she was drafted. I already have had to deal with the costs and don’t relish seeing it again for something that doesn’t involve core interests,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omd9_FJnerY

    1. Chafed

      Staying there forever was not an option. We shouldn’t have gone in at all. But we did. Would you agree Trump screwed over the Syrian Kurds who were our allies? If so, would you agree doing something, maybe allowing them to emigrate here, before pulling out would have been a smarter move?

      1. Urthona

        While I’m not a big fan of any sorts of mass murderings, understand the Syrian Kurds are communist guerrillas… err… freedom fighters. They were allies of convenience because ISIS (whom we made very dangerous) was worse.

        They aren’t like the Iraqi Kurds or any of the various other tribes.

        We probably don’t want them immigrating here.

        Turkey will probably try to get rid of them because they regard them as terrorists. (to be honest, correctly).

      2. CPRM

        I’m very confused by the people who say all we were doing in Syria was logistical support, and the Kurds were doing all the fighting, and then turn around and say the Kurds can’t do the fighting when the enemy is coming straight at them.

        1. Jarflax

          ISIS despite our fear mongering were a joke as an army. A bunch of clowns spraying and praying and chopping off heads of captives. The Turks are a modern army.

          1. CPRM

            The Turks are a modern army.

            Who as near as I can tell are trying to find a place for all the Syrian ‘refugees’ Europe wouldn’t take. Their answer is to clear an area we had assigned the Kurds to defend, which isn’t Kurdish territory, for resettlement. the whole thing is a shit show, but I just don’t get why it’s our business.

          2. Jarflax

            I was addressing:

            people who say all we were doing in Syria was logistical support, and the Kurds were doing all the fighting, and then turn around and say the Kurds can’t do the fighting

            Fighting Islamists with AKs and a martyr complex is a different animal from fighting a modern trained and equipped military.

          3. CPRM

            @ Jarflax, yeah, I’m drunk and attempted to shift the goal posts, it was worth a try, because I really don’t want to get into an argument. Because it’s all just so fucked up.

      3. Pan Zagloba

        You know what’s more fun?

        Kurds aren’t America’s “allies”, they’re “co-beligerrents” at best (“proxy” and “client” aren’t formal diplomatic states, far as I know).

        Turks, on the other hand, are full-on allies.

      4. dbleagle

        I get the Kurds were our allies. I never felt threatened any time I was north of the “green line” in Kurdistan. In fact in 2008 we were not permitted to carry weapons off the airfield up there.

        But what many don’t realize there are good Kurd groups and bad Kurd groups. I know for a fact in 2003, 2004 and 2008 that the US was permitting the Turks to invade northern Iraq with brigade size elements up to a certain line to kill the communist Kurd groups. I listened to the updates on the daily reports. What I don’t know if this was more of the same, but in Syria, because I have “lost the bubble” on which groups are where.

        I am fully for honoring out commitments to those interpreters, and soldiers that we promised visas to. (Iraqi, Kurd and Afghani) That motherfucker Obama sat on their visa applications for eight years. Trump started them moving again, but there not as many to process- they are dead. So the US is doing to the Kurds what we did to the Montagnards, the Hmung, and others. Supporting the US is often not a good deal for smaller groups. It is a raw deal. Ultimately this goes back to Mr Sykes and Mr Picot who decided not to carve out a independent Kurdistan.

        1. Chafed

          I agree with everything you wrote. I’m just mindful that publicly fucking over our “native” allies, even commies, means it will be much more difficult for our troops in some future engagement.

          1. Pan Zagloba

            On one hand, this is true.

            On the other, after so many times your country played Lucy with the football, Charlie Brown should learn and say “no thanks, guns and ammo and missiles and air strikes, please”.

          2. Chafed

            To my knowledge that’s not a deal we have ever offered. It’s more like we give you weapons, may be some training, advisors, air cover, and SF operatives. We largely call the shots. You fight for your life or freedom.

        2. dbleagle

          What pissed me off the most bout the cunte was she probably protested Bush starting the Iraq War 2.0, was silent when Obama poorly started Iraq War 2.5, and doesn’t give a shit about the Kurds-it’s all orange man bad. When I asked about how she felt about her kids fighting in Syria it was, “My daughter is in UCLA and has important things to do when she graduates.”

          WTF! What the fucking fuck? Of course her spawn are too important to go fight. Let the dumb fucks from the south and fly over country go fight. I oppose the draft, but I would love to see a press gang drag her special snowflake off.

          I am drunk and pissed. The Soldiers who under my command who were killed and wounded deserve better than this woman.

          1. Chafed

            They do. In fairness, those press gangs should cart her off. Her kid didn’t make the idiotic statement.

          2. Jarflax

            The Soldiers who under my command who were killed and wounded deserve better than this woman.

            They always do, and they always get this instead:

            went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
            The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
            The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
            I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
            O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
            But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
            The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
            O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.

            I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
            They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
            They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
            But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
            For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
            But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
            The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
            O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.

            Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
            Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
            An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
            Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
            Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?”
            But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
            The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
            O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.

            We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
            But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
            An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
            Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
            While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
            But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
            There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
            O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.

            You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
            We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
            Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
            The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
            For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
            But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
            An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
            An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!

          3. dbleagle

            Kipling is always appropriate.

          4. Pan Zagloba

            I…is her name Becky? Is she trolling you?

            Like, that’s not an answer a human should give. That’s a fucking Rush Limbaugh punchline.

          5. dbleagle

            Nope. I have known her a bit for several years. Her TDS is growing almost every time I see her.

            Unfortunately I have heard variations of that comment every so often since 2004 or 2005. Normally I just shrug it off. She was just blatant and I know her so it hit hard.

          6. Gustave Lytton

            Fuck that. Children are not chattel of their parent, nor do their inherit guilt. If anyone should be conscripted for use as bullet stop, it should be your correspondent. Some not giving a shit about others serving now, might shed a tear or two but ultimately would not care that their child was drafted. Vietnam protests were mostly a generational phenomenon after all.

  25. Chafed

    SD I’m not sure this qualifies a later in life career change but here goes. I spent 4 years in the real world before returning to law school. I worked a number of low paid jobs. From them Iearned what I did and did not want in a job. Went I went back to school I was very focused and worked like a dog because I knew what I truly wanted.

    I don’t think the GIA certification will get you anywhere unless you work in the jewelry industry or, maybe, in insurance. I’m not sure how long you’ve been in your job but I would guess you have a pension coming after 20 years. Given your hours, wouldn’t it make more sense to consider what you want as a next career and go to school to train for that?

    1. Sir Digby

      Well, that’s the rub–I have very little in the way of college (about the amount of an Associate’s), and going on 20 years in LE in a non-sworn position, with about another 7 or so to go. I don’t want to continue in LE after my time in, and, I’m not exactly in a position to go back for a degree, especially after a 20 year absence, and this is considering that I work FOR a college, who, by the way, has a rather stingy policy for “degree assistance”.

      I like gems, and can see picking up the curriculum easily enough, and in a fairly short time. It’s what I would do with it that is the biggest question at the moment.

      Personally, I think my aptitude has been Law, but, getting a JD is pretty much in my rear-view mirror.

      1. Chafed

        I strongly recommend you take the Kolbe A profile. I forget what it costs but it’s less than $100. Go to kolbe.com. It’s one of the most valuable things I’ve done.

      2. Gustave Lytton

        especially after a 20 year absence

        Pffftt. I’ve taken a number of online courses over the years. Lots of returning/never attended older adults.

        Figure out what you want to do and if a degree is needed for that (job/personal enrichment/lark), just grind it out. Lots and lots of options open now in the online space or hybrid, many from reputable institutions. Assuming your AS mostly/fully transfer for credit, taking one or two classes per term will net you a degree by the time you retire.

        1. Sir Digby

          I don’t have an Associate’s–just 62 hours or so of non-core classes. So, I’d be grinding classes that I’ve had virtually no connection to in decades. I can’t seem to psyche myself up for that, hence my leaning towards something that’s certification-based.

          The other issue is the “figure out what you want to do”, as I don’t actually know of anything. I never had hobbies growing up, per se, and wasn’t taught anything remotely close to an employable skill.

          1. DrOtto

            Take the Kolbe A profile like Chafed says, you need some direction. I traded a job I thought I wanted (investments) for a hobby I liked (auto mechanic). I still trade stocks, now without having to ask for permission, but I’m self employed and work on cars all day. I really like my work and life, and my investments have helped pave the way so I don’t worry what happens down the road.

          2. Sir Digby

            I did. Will have to go over it in detail and maybe do their job-based…whatever you call it.

  26. Gender Traitor

    I’m off to beddy-bye. Thank you, Diggy, for being such a gracious host! As for what night is preferred for this well-shod extravaganza, I historically tend to run out of gas early on Friday evenings. Whatever night you settle upon, though, I shall do my utmost (as opposed to my usual utleast) to persevere.

    Nighty-night!

    1. Jarflax

      Night!

    2. Night, GT! Sleep well!

    3. Chafed

      Utleast is a keeper. Well done GT.

    4. Sir Digby

      ‘Night, GT!

    1. Akira

      Chuck Todd? Isn’t he the one who straight-up admitted that NBC is no longer doing “unbiased” journalism because orange man just so bad?

      I’m not even mad about that – what makes me mad is that there are still people in the world who have the capacity for such doublethink as to hear that statement but then continue to write off everyone who distrusts the media as a tinfoil hat-wearing, Alex Jones-listening nutjob.

      1. Chafed

        Yup. There is editorial judgment and then there is simply taking a side. NBC has taken a side.

        1. Festus

          Just re-watched that clip and the only thing missing is basso vocce “Can you dig it?”

  27. Jarflax

    Digby, My advice on the GIA thing is unless you are doing it because you are really interested in the subject matter, don’t. If you are looking to add employability by learning skills, learn something in the trades. The skills are more portable, more widely useful, generally less expensive to learn, and in a great many cases better paid than the standard educational path. Don’t spend 10s of thousands training yourself to a career you pick just for the money. You find yourself in your 50s with a mediocre income and a career you don’t particularly enjoy and a very uphill climb to change to anything else.

    1. Chafed

      I don’t know if SD is interested in the trades but I agree with everything else you said.

      1. Sir Digby

        Yeah–never been mechanically inclined, really. Not that I can’t learn. It’s just not really been in my wheelhouse.

      2. Plinker762

        He should take up late night gemology, with a pry bar and one of those racoon masks.

        1. Chafed

          Now we’re getting somewhere. It combines two of SD’s interests.

        2. Sir Digby

          PLINK!!

          1. Plinker762

            YOYO I was going to call you Diggy, but looks like someone beat me to it. I’ll have to come up with something different.

          2. Sir Digby

            I will certainly answer to Diggy, now that the ladies have broken that ice. But, proceed as you will.

            Also–maybe I should try building a boat gemology in the dark….

        3. DrOtto

          If only UCS was here to recommend the proper gloves.

  28. PieInTheSky

    Well it is sunday morning had a couple of eggs and a cup of coffee time for a sunday norning beer. You drunks still around?

    1. PieInTheSky

      Getting an MRI on my shoulder at 10 30… sitting still for half an hour sucks. Also that fuckin think be noisy

      1. Jarflax

        I’m about to call it a night. I hope the MRI identifies your issue and it is easily fixable. I have always wanted to smuggle some neodymium magnets into an MRI just to see what would happen. (probably neodymium magnet shaped holes in me)

        1. PieInTheSky

          I know the issue. it is the same from last year. subacromial impingement. the fix is probably arthroscopic surgery which I am unsure of.

      2. CPRM

        Do you have ‘free’ healthcare where you scheduled this MRI 3 years ago, or something more free market where this is a new issue?

        1. PieInTheSky

          I have private insurance for the MRI. I scheduled it this Tuesday and has a choice between Friday at 10 30 PM and Sunday at 10 30 AM , although I lost a week because the HR person in my company who handles the healthcare told me the wrong procedure and I wasted a week.

          1. CPRM

            I have private insurance

            I hope it covers your tombstone, because I’ve been assured that is the outcome.

      3. Pan Zagloba

        Good luck.

        So before I forget, did you ever look into Comrade Detective, an Amazon Prime show shot in Romania? I thought it was hilarious and was toying with the idea of Glibs article, but your perspective would be much more valuable…

    2. Pan Zagloba

      Still up, since I have a cold and also operate on the “too late for everything on glibs.com” timezone.

      1. Sir Digby

        Boo on the cold, huzzah for the other.

    3. CPRM

      I was told eggs for breakfast was a fast one pulled on us by TEH CORPORATIONS!!!11 Surely it can’t be a thing there?

      1. Pan Zagloba

        The moment Communism falters, tendrils of International Capitalism worm their way into society’s soft belly. Next – Our Women!

        Be vigilant, Comrade.

  29. straffinrun

    “You just said [X]! That doesn’t make sense with [Y] which you’re saying right now!”

    “I didn’t mean [X], I meant [Y]!”

    “Then why didn’t you just say [Y]?!”

    “[X] is true anyways.”

    “You just said you didn’t mean [X] and it still doesn’t make sense with [Y].”

    “You look happy right now. Why are you so happy?”

    “I’m not happy. I’m pissed.”

    “You look happy.”

    Possibly the dumbest fight I’ve ever had with the wife just ended. Too early to drink?

    1. PieInTheSky

      well 9am is to early but here is me and mr. carlsberg

    2. Pan Zagloba

      To me this sounds like One Shot O’Clock, no later.

      1. straffinrun

        It’s 3, so I may as well.

      2. CPRM

        There’s that Pan again!

    3. CPRM

      I’d say time for make-up sex. but then again I’m single/

    4. Chafed

      Sounds like it’s the right time.

    5. Jarflax

      Do you remember that time back in 2011 that you were only half listening and you accidentally agreed that some girl you probably do not recall, but whom your wife recalls vividly, that you met in 2007, was prettier than your wife? No? She does.

      1. Chafed

        *taps side of nose*

      2. Festus

        Here’s my thousand-yard stare. Do NOT take your Wife to reunions! Those old broads are shameless.

        1. CPRM

          Yeah I get that all the time from former rape victims old girlfriends. (All of that is a joke, including that I never had a girlfriend, let this be noted in the court case)

      3. straffinrun

        Think I need go out for a pack of smokes and ponder how the 70’s husband would handle this.

        1. CPRM

          Not cool! I’m totally triggered! You don’t know why! But I’m going to make sure you go to jail for it!

          1. straffinrun

            Oh, he’ll be back. Someday.

          2. Festus

            Just like the dog that went to live on a farm upstate.

          3. Sir Digby

            Could also be like that dose of the clap that…

            You know; never mind.

        2. Gustave Lytton

          With a kickass theme song?

          https://youtu.be/xpNmmUDHokw

          1. Sir Digby

            It’s not the Rockford Files…but, what the hell!

            I’ll allow it.

  30. Chafed

    I have to tap out SD. Wifey is “sick” so I’m driving the kidlet to Hebrew School tomorrow morning. Looks like you’ll easily clear 300 comments tonight.

    Have a goodnight Cowboys and Cowgirls.

    1. CPRM

      So your (((kids))) are important to you? Isn’t that always the way of (((you)))!

    2. Sir Digby

      ‘Night Chafed. Thanks for the Kolbe advice–followed.

    3. Rhywun

      More about cowboys.

      1. Sir Digby

        This where my mind goes when that word is mentioned.

        1. Rhywun

          I’m a child of the 80s.

          1. Sir Digby

            I was so expecting this.

          2. Rhywun

            I leave the crap for Ted’S to post.

          3. Sir Digby

            Crap?? Eh tu?

          4. Gustave Lytton

            Me too.

  31. Festus

    Hrrm. Might have to temper my Friday vs. Saturday opinion. Just get people riled up about murder-cops and Star Trek and you’ll be golden.

    1. CPRM

      Nah, I’d say it’s all me. I actually have a full weekend off. So people came to see me. *Takes a Hero Pose*

      1. Sir Digby

        I would not discount this theory at all.

        Well, until more glib females show up…

        1. Festus

          Diggy loves Hayek! Diggy loves Hayek!

          1. Sir Digby

            Don’t we all??

          2. Festus

            Well, sure…

          3. Sir Digby

            Now, to be sure, it would be terrific to have her here…

            /just saying

  32. dbleagle

    The Trade Winds returned today which is always nice. Anybody need apple bananas? I harvested another bunch today so I need to deal with 80-100 bananas in the next 72 hours. I’ll bring some sailing tomorrow for my crewmates, but not on the boat since they are considered bad luck.

    Settling in for a relaxing evening. More cognac at hand, because why not? I was thinking about listening to some albums but probably should watch a comedy movie instead.

    1. Jarflax

      That is an interesting superstition. Any reason for it?

      1. straffinrun

        You ever slip on a banana peel while walking the plank? Not pretty.

        1. Festus

          Never slipped on a banana peel but I have stepped on a rake. Twice.

          1. Sir Digby

            These euphemisms are getting kinky…

          2. Akira

            When I was about 8, I decided to test the theory about whether or not you would really slip on a banana peel. I did this by eating a banana and putting the peel on the carpeted living room floor, then sprinting across it at full speed. I didn’t really slip and fall so much as leave a big brown stain of smashed banana mush on the carpet. When my mom came home and asked what the fuck that was, I blamed it on the dog.

          3. Sir Digby

            These ‘Dear Penthouse’ stories are getting weirder.

            And, kinky.

          4. Rhywun

            Ah, the Looney Tunes school of self-instruction. I approve.

          5. Sir Digby

            I did the same with a socketed light bulb and squirt bottle of water…

            No dog around, though.

          6. Festus

            When I was about six or so I was marching around in the attic with a curtain rod and I hit the empty light socket with my pike. Blew out the fuse and landed on my ass. No one was the wiser.

          7. Sir Digby

            So, does that make us “socket brothers”?

          8. Festus

            Yes.

          9. Tejicano

            I remember the first time I got my pike stuck in a light socket. It didn’t quite knock me on my ass but I never really recovered.

          10. Gender Traitor

            Not a euphemism, I hope!

          11. Gustave Lytton

            You owe me a new keyboard.

  33. CPRM

    My little not-brother has broken up with his second baby mama and is living with his sister until her man gets out of jail, but can’t live there once he gets out because a court order means they need to stay away from each other, and he can’t stay with his mom because I guess he doesn’t get along with her man; so of course stupidly I offered him a place to stay. It’s sad how someone raised beside you can get caught up in all this bullshit, and no matter what you do, you can’t save them.

    1. straffinrun

      You should take everyone involved on Dr. Phil.

      1. CPRM

        My sister’s baby daddy was supposedly on Springer before they met. Never seen the proof.

        1. Sir Digby

          Ah; the tomato/to-mah-to argument.

      2. Rhywun

        I was going to suggest Maury but thought that would be in poor taste.

    2. Festus

      That situation is profoundly stupid and yet oh so familiar.

      1. Sir Digby

        Hey; don’t knock nut-busting, and being able to crash at CPRM’s place after the fact.

  34. CPRM

    I’m Tapping out. Otherwise I won’t sleep at all.

    1. Sir Digby

      Pfft…Only 3 hours?? Take off, ya hoser.

      1. Festus

        Cultural Appropriation! HOW DARE YOU?

        1. Sir Digby

          I didn’t get personal now, did I?? Eh?

          1. Festus

            This my place and these are my people https://youtu.be/8Jm4LoOaAWI

          2. Sir Digby

            I knew it! You magnificent bastard….

          3. Sir Digby

            Is this weekend different for you, compared to last week?

          4. Festus

            Just a different mind-set. Sometimes I can be gregarious and at other times a wall flower. Keep the Saturday Night thing going. You’ll find your footing and as Grandpa always told me when I messed up, “Well, Son. They can’t all be gems!”

          5. Sir Digby

            Oh, I think I found my footing. At least, I don’t really know what I change to if that was/is warranted. Sink or swim, I guess..? Plus, goy good advice about it from SP, as far as chasing comments goes.

            You’d be surprised at how much I’ve been telling myself the “not all are gems” thing the last couple of weeks, and very little of that having to do with my posts.

            My q about this week was more about having time to hang out.schedule.

          6. Festus

            That too. Sometimes shit needs to get done on Sunday before work.

          7. Sir Digby

            Ah–gotcha.

  35. Sir Digby

    So, next week: Stephen Paddock? Disney Star Wars? The Silmarillion?

    1. Festus

      Circumcision, pineapple on pizza and the land tax.

      1. Sir Digby

        I’m trying to draw out opinions/speech, not raise the Storm warning flag.

        You know, just like a gun can kill a lively party? Yeah–trying to avoid that.

        1. DrOtto

          A gun can also liven up a dead party. Remembers event from 1987, nobody move, nobody get hurt.

          1. Sir Digby

            A gun can also liven up a dead party.

            This is also true. Therefore, guns are the Swiss Army knife of weapons!

          2. DrOtto

            That party had everything good/bad about the 80’s – shotguns/cocaine/diesel powered Cadillacs.

          3. Sir Digby

            Oh, if only CPRM were here to take notes…

    2. straffinrun

      The court cases are interesting.

      1. Sir Digby

        As in, offer up more for discussion?

        1. straffinrun

          You get law, ethics, morality, common sense all swirled together. Those kind of cases.

    3. Gustave Lytton

      Laundry pods

      (Courtesy of serpentza)

      1. Sir Digby

        Umm…..is that supposed to convey the idea of, “get your whites their yellowest”???

        1. Gustave Lytton

          Ancient Chinese secret, huh?

          1. Sir Digby

            ?? ?? ?? ?? ?

      2. Festus

        Wow! That’s racist as fuck! I chuckled.

        1. Sir Digby

          Oh, how we laughed at the minorities….

          1. Festus

            When I was wee the other kids in our farming town called those little black licorice treats “Nigger Babies”. Actual half-cent candy. Wifey grew up calling Brazil nuts “Nigger Toes”.

          2. Sir Digby

            Wifey grew up calling Brazil nuts “Nigger Toes”.

            My grandmother also called them that.

            From the Great White North to the Great White South…

          3. Festus

            Her Grandma lived and died in North Carolina. We have her picture hanging on the wall from when she was 90-ish. She looks like Mrs Clause and didn’t have a mean, racist bone in her body. People were “different” back then. My Mom freaked the hell out when I brought a paper bag full of licorice home to snack on. Full on face-slapping mode. “Don’t you EVER say that word in front of me again”! I was Five.

          4. Sir Digby

            Me?? Oh, I never had any sort of situation like that happen in my youth.

            Nosiree! Nuh-uh. No way…

          5. DrOtto

            My dad refers to them as “Brazil nuts…as they’re called now.”

          6. Sir Digby

            #ThisModernLife

          7. Festus

            “Brazil Nuts aka…”

          8. straffinrun

            Never heard that. Can’t say that would fly in my neighborhood.

          9. Akira

            I had a former boss who still called them “nigger toes” and considered it “politically correct” to call them Brazil nuts.

            … But honestly, it’s not unreasonable to refrain from calling them “nigger toes”.

          10. Sir Digby

            Right? Are they even all that popular? I can’t imagine that it’s an impulse that needs suppressing very often.

  36. straffinrun

    Twitter is death by a thousand cunts.

    1. Sir Digby

      Oh, we should be so lucky to have only a thousand on Twatter.

      1. straffinrun

        It’s like Gremlins that multiply on weakness instead of water.

    2. Festus

      ‘Cuntes”, the proper nomenclature on this board is “Cuntes”.

  37. straffinrun

    I wish Hitler would’ve been better.

    1. Festus

      Better at what? Building roads?

      1. straffinrun

        It’s open ended in order to be inclusive.

        1. Sir Digby

          Awww! That is SO nice, straff!

          1. Festus

            The Hipster Clone Army approacheth! Run Away!

  38. DrOtto

    Last? And drunk.

    1. Sir Digby

      Hopefully not. You pick the status…

      1. DrOtto

        Goddammit

    2. Festus

      Nope and same. Cheers!

  39. straffinrun

    Try typing in “straight couple” into google search and see what you get.

    1. Sir Digby

      Ugly…

    2. DrOtto

      Goddammit

    3. Festus

      I mentioned the other morning about getting my first “Sexy senior singles” spam. I haven’t been on Facebook for years but all of the targeted ads are for boner pills and cheating sites. Maybe they know me better than I know myself? Nope. Fuck them and fuck the algorithms that they rode in on!

      1. Sir Digby

        Is that a two-fer, or, a “mutually exclusive” marketing ploy?

        Cover the bases, is my guess.

        1. Festus

          There is absolutely no Granny porn in my history but they seem to be adding 2+2 and coming up with 5.

          1. DrOtto

            Granny porn is the new step-sister?

          2. Festus

            Depends upon your stated age, I suppose.

      1. Festus

        Legit chuckle! I like you, Child Of The Night!

      2. Sir Digby

        Submitted with only a little bit of comment.

        Those do look like nice pants…

        1. Festus

          Scroll down to “I use They pronoun because I am always surrounded by my swarm of bees.”

          1. Festus

            Wow. At the bottom of the page there was Senior Sexy Singles, Hair implants and Fun Housing for Seniors all in my (redacted) hometown.

          2. Sir Digby

            You running an ad blocker? It might help.

            That, or, giving in…

          3. Festus

            I mean come on! Jesus Christ I’m still 54! It’s like they want me to stray. Fucking Facestalk…

          4. Sir Digby

            Can you rid yourself of facestalk? I haven’t dealt with it (other than links in stories) for years.

          5. Festus

            I haven’t visited for about eight years. They still have my data. Too late now.

          6. Sir Digby

            It may just be time for a new identity.

            You could start identifying as Gretta’s older, hotter, wiser sister…

          7. Festus

            Too bald. I might be able to “Pippi” my pubes.

          8. Sir Digby

            “Pippi” my pubes

            This is my current favorite phrase!

            Thanks, Festus.

          9. Sir Digby

            Also, that would be faaaar more charming than Gretta herself.

  40. Gustave Lytton

    For some reason, I thought I had a Systainer compatible box from one of my tools. Turns out it’s not and now I have yet another mutually incompatible system. And looked at lots of Festool porn. That stuff could be more expensive than a coke habit.

    1. PieInTheSky

      no one need pocket knives or power tools

    2. Festus

      These are words written in the English language and yet remain beyond my ken.

      1. Sir Digby

        #MeToo

        1. l0b0t

          That’s awesome and clever. But, yeah… competing formats are annoying until it all shakes out.

          Tangentially, I REALLY miss returnable beer bottles, mainly for the wonderful heavy, waxed boxes. All but 2 of my once impressive collection of those perfect garage storage containers have gone to cardboard heaven.

  41. PieInTheSky

    Noon is almost upon us

    1. Sir Digby

      Where ever did the time go?

      Damned Daylight Savings Time….

      1. Festus

        400+ comments. Keep on keepin’ on Diggy!

        1. Sir Digby

          Hold on a minute–I have to put up the post AND make the comments, too???

          Something seems off about that.

          Pie, are you finished with the MRI yet?

  42. Sir Digby

    Confession time!

    I had a White Claw today before bed. Dark Cherry (heh). I can see why Crusty likes ’em, to be honest. I would have preferred a different (better) flavor, but it was alright.

    A tall boy with 1% carbs? Yeah, I’ll be back.

      1. Festus

        Thicc! Happy Thicc! Not a fat-ass, just a well proportioned girl.

        1. Sir Digby

          True. Of course, there is often a fine line (and a lot of personal taste) between ‘phat’, and ‘fat’!

          I’ve seen phat fat, and I’ve seen fat fat.

          1. Festus

            You haven’t lived until you’ve boned a fat chick in the mud behind the Legion Hall in a strange town. I don’t think I could top that even with a do-over. Squamping on a waterbed covered in sand runs a close second.

          2. Sir Digby

            ::furiously takes notes::

            Oh, I’m learnin’, Festus.

            BTW, isn’t

            boned a fat chick in the mud

            referred to as “hogging”?

            /I love bacon…

          3. Festus

            I have stories that I will never tell my Grandchildren. Until dementia catches up with me.

          4. Sir Digby

            Time for a Glibs’ Tell-All!

          5. Festus

            ‘You’ll just have to wait!” as he he closes the big book of Festus tales and tucks you in nice and cozy.

          6. Sir Digby

            True Love Waits….

  43. Old Man With Candy

    Waking up at 3am and realizing you’re sick as a dog is not the way to start a week.

    1. Sir Digby

      Sorry, my man! Seems to be going around the glibs, Not that that helps…

      1. Festus

        That and many babies being borned. Get better, OMWC!

        1. Sir Digby

          Who was birthing? Man, the things I miss not being active on daytimes…

          1. Festus

            Ed Wunckler and someone else. It’s Happening!

          2. Sir Digby

            Oh, yeah! I didn’t realize Ed’s was that recent.

  44. Festus

    So Wifey and two of her daughters just drove half way to Vancouver to meet up with daughter#2 so that they could pick up some kittehs. They meet at the halfway point, rent a room and flee back the next day. Is it just me or does this seem like moronic behavior? Who the fuck drives 250 miles to adopt kittehs?

    1. Sir Digby

      Childless cat that can drive?

      No…that doesn’t work. Well, if it doesn’t create a hardship, be glad they are able to do so. I guess.

      1. Festus

        They just wanted to visit each other, plus kittehs! Little Himalayans. Vancouver daughter owns a beautiful registered Quarter horse that she’s seen maybe three times. The filly lives with the other horses on daughter#1’s acreage. Wifey went out there today to feed them. Why does Wifey have to drive 30 miles to feed the horses? Festus dare not ask.

        1. Sir Digby

          Why does Wifey have to drive 30 miles to feed the horses?

          Because….the horses are 30 miles away? I mean, otherwise, she’s doing it wrong.

          1. hayeksplosives

            Lol!!

          2. Sir Digby

            Lady of ‘Lecricity! Howdy.

          3. hayeksplosives

            My apologies in advance. My spouse managed to make a complete ass of himself tonight, xo we are now stuck in imperial beach in a skanky hotel.

          4. Sir Digby

            Oh, dang….are y’all OK?

          5. hayeksplosives

            Sadly, my personal phone died from slack of juice, so this is all you get, from Roasplosives.

          6. Sir Digby

            Well, I hope you get back safely. And, can get some rest, too.

          7. hayeksplosives

            Died from lack of juice,

            —derpbook

          8. Sir Digby

            Personally, I’m still stuck on

            Roasplosives.

          9. hayeksplosives

            Thanks man .

            Wish I could play in the sandbox some more tonight.

            I literally begged to go to the beach tonight at sunset—just a walk away.

            I’ve lived here over a year and have yet to dip my toes into the Pacific. I think it’s time to fix that.

          10. Sir Digby

            That’s far too long! And, beg? You? That ain’t right!

  45. Gender Traitor

    Mornin’, Diggy! Mornin’, hay!

    1. Sir Digby

      ‘Morning!!

      1. Gender Traitor

        I haven’t scrolled upstream yet. How was the party through the night? Nobody called the cops on ya, I hope?

        1. Sir Digby

          Pretty darned good, actually!

          Also, see my comment at the end.

    2. l0b0t

      Hey everybody! (“Hi, Dr. Nick!”)

      1. Sir Digby

        +1 Hollywood Upstairs Medical College

        1. l0b0t

          Fun Fact – Jenna Maroney, Jane Krakowski’s character on 30 Rock, is a graduate of The Royal Tampa Academy of Dramatic Tricks.

      2. Gender Traitor

        Hi, Dr. Nick! (‘zat you?)

    3. Sir Digby

      This is odd– I had to wait for the very end of my post for the majority of the lady action female comments.

      /it’s not all that odd, really.

      1. Gender Traitor

        Something something best for last. ; )

        1. Sir Digby

          Of course!

          (heheheheh…Diggy)

  46. Gender Traitor

    Shall we race to see who gets the first comment on Morning Lynx, or would it be cooler to stroll in fashionably late?