A Beginner’s Guide to Viva

That's how you can tell we're at a classy place.
These signs are all over at the Orleans

Viva Las Vegas, it’s a film, a song, and one of the longest running Rockabilly weekenders in the world. What’s Rockabilly? It’s a style of music that started in the 50’s (primarily in Memphis at a little studio called Sun), had a revival in the 80’s, and has been slapping a bass since then. It’s split up into a huge range of subgenres, some going more punk, others going more “classic” (in this case 1950’s style). Among the fans, there’s also usually an appreciation of classic cars, 50’s fashion, and Americana culture. Pompadours, facial hair, flatcaps, and tattoos are common.

Back to Viva… this year was the 22nd year that the event was held, and for as long as I’ve been going, it’s been held at the Orleans Casino and Resort in Las Vegas, off the strip. The Orleans is known as a locals casino. But over most Easter weekends (when Viva is held), they turn off the standard music, change it over to Rockabilly, and swarms of people with their classic cars and finest 50’s fashion fall upon the Orleans. The event is popular enough that rooms for the next year go on sale before the tickets for the event do, and the rooms sell out in under three hours.

The men have it easy, bowling shirts and work shirts are the standard, with a couple of zoot suits and the like being worn. If you have hair, it’s either a high and tight or held up into a pompadour. The women have a much harder time dolling themselves up, but they go through the work and it shows. However, there are some entire families who dress themselves up in matching garb for the day (I’m not too sure about how much say the kids have, but they’re there).

The Car Show is the highlight. If you can only go for a single day, this is the day.

Over the course of the weekend, there’s burlesque shows, pinup contests, concerts, DJ’s, vendor rooms, dance lessons, make up lessons, fashion lessons, bowling, movie premiers, and other shows of interest to the attendees. And that’s not even mentioning the car show, it’s massive, with all cars (except the ones from movies/TV shows) being pre-1964. If you’re not careful, you could walk away purchasing one of the cars that are for sale.

Now that you know what’s going on there, you’ve decided you want to go. Great, what should you plan for? First, plan on walking a lot. I don’t think I’ve walked less than 5 miles any day out there. Realize that you’ll probably not be able to get a room at the Orleans; however, keep in mind that they have a shuttle to their sister property (the Gold Coast), and the strip. Tickets for the main event come in basically two choices: The High Roller, which gives you access to everything all weekend; or the Car Show, which gives you access to the car show only on Saturday (that will include the vendors in that area, and the bands playing there). If you don’t have appropriate garb, then the vendors will be more than happy to help you out there, but bring cash as some do not take credit/debit cards..

Sweet Pea’s Hooch and Smooch

If you’re going for the first time, I’d recommend going to Sweet Pea’s Hooch and Smooch on Thursday afternoon. It’s the official meet and greet for the event, and then there’s more specific meetups for singles, LGBT, sober, black pin-ups, etc. I’d also recommend looking over the schedule ahead of time, and try to at least get a rough schedule of the events you want to see. Personally, I’d recommend at least one burlesque event, and the Charles Phoenix slide show. Most of the shows happen multiple times (but may be different for each of them), bands usually only play once, but then hang out around the weekender for the rest (I met one of the players from Los Straitjackets that way, it’s not like you can recognize them).

I’ve already got my room booked for next year, and I hope to see some of you there.  If you haven’t seen it yet, here’s some pictures from this year, and some from years past.

Comments

192 responses to “A Beginner’s Guide to Viva”

  1. AlmightyJB

    Looks like fun. I think my first exposure to Rockabilly was watching Reverend Horton Heat in the movie Love and a 45. I may have heard the style before, but first time I heard the term. Totally my jam.

    1. AlmightyJB

      I’ve actually never been to Las Vegas.

  2. Raven Nation
    1. Nephilium

      You’ve got slap bass, and there’s not really that much of a purity movement in the rockabilly scene. I’ll say I like this song with the same name though. You’ve got some people who only like the old Sun artists (and those who play that way), some who prefer the psychobilly/punk ones, and people generally get along.

      1. Raven Nation

        Nice.

      2. How about British rockabilly? By one of my all-time favorite bands, Rockpile, featuring Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds? Do they qualify?

        (For those of you not in the know, I only recall one actual Rockpile-named album, but in their prime both Nick Lowe and Dave Edmunds solo albums were really Rockpile albums splitting their lead singer/songwriters.)

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Yeah.

          Does Jake Bugg qualify?

    2. Pope Jimbo

      Can I get a ruling on Southern Culture on the Skids? They don’t have an upright bass, but they are pretty country.

      1. egould310

        SCOTS ???

        1. Chafed

          That can’t be the right link. Not enough bare skin.

          1. Chafed

            It’s like I don’t know you anymore.

          2. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

            NYE 2001 in Vegas and I caught the clap

            I mean…..If the shoe fits?

  3. DEG

    The car show looks cool.

    1. Nephilium

      It is. Even walking it two or three times, you’ll still see new things you missed the first time through. They do offer a ticket just for the car show.

  4. Yusef changed his handle

    I’m going to take the wife next year, sweet,
    Thanks Neph, great writeup

    1. Nephilium

      Then I’ll see you there. Rooms are already booked, and Viva tickets go on sale June 1st. They’re at a discounted rate until spring next year, tickets usually sell out around March. If you sign up to the newsletter, they provide updates and usually average about an e-mail a month.

  5. Yusef changed his handle

    My Brother played with Brian Setzer once at a dive bar, they held hands after word, true story…

    1. MikeS

      Describe “dive bar”…

      No, I’m kidding; please don’t.

      1. Suthenboy

        Describe “dive bar”…

        Dive = Bar = Dive

        The term is redundant.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          Like an ATM machine?

          1. MikeS

            Depends; what is your PIN number?

          2. A Leap at the Wheel

            This joke is literally going to give me the HIV virus.

          3. MikeS

            I think you need a relaxing bath; assuming your hot water heater is working.

  6. I’ve been to Vegas once, as a kid when our Econoline suffered a blowout in the Mojave and we had to get it fixed at the Ford dealership.

    Vegas by day seemed entirely unglamorous.

    1. SP

      I am not generally a fan of Las Vegas, Nevada.

      And by that I mean, I really hate the place. More and more.

      1. Nephilium

        The nice thing is that this is off strip, so almost everyone there is either a local or there for the show.

      2. I have to go to Vegas on business on Friday. Fly in that morning, fly out that afternoon. Still more time than I would prefer to be there, especially because my business is in the middle of the Strip.

      3. Chafed

        Have you been to the Wynn or Encore. Every restaurant has a vegetarian/vegan menu.

        1. Playa Manhattan

          Everything has meat in it. Except for the meat loaf.

      4. Old Man With Candy

        Wait, we got married there!

        1. Spudalicious

          Fitting that she really hates it.

    2. Suthenboy

      It’s like a bar. In the dark with music and women it looks ok. Go in during the day when no one is there and the lights are on. Dirty, seedy, grungy and not a surface in the place you would feel comfortable touching.

      1. robc

        sounds more like New Orleans.

        1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

          ^DINGDINGDINGDING!!

    3. Tundra

      I used to be in the gaming business. Turned down a lot of money to relocate there.

      Then I was involved in a lot of trade shows in various industries – fucking Vegas was always on the menu. Many times per year. I hate the place.

      I would go for this event, though.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        I went a couple times for a user group conference. Every time I’d dump on Las Vegas as the choice of venue. Could have been worse. Could be a Mennonite like a guy I know that went to the same conference.

    4. Playa Manhattan

      Econoline?

      How many kids were in your family?

      And, what were you doing in the Mojave?

  7. SP

    Thanks, Neph. I love me some rockabilly.

    My favorite group from Austin.

    And their website.

    1. Nephilium

      Very nice, we’ve still got a small scene up here in Cleveland which is nice.

  8. Raven Nation

    Sorry to OT so early but apparently Rosenstein is dumping on Comey. I wonder if the vultures are gathering?

    1. OneOut

      Yes.

    2. Chafed

      It can’t be bad. It may be good.

  9. Timeloose

    Thanks Neph. I like Vegas, hot rods, and Rockabilly, so this sounds like a good time.

    The wife and I have a special place for the psychobilly side of the style. We met at a reverend Horton Heat show almost 20 years ago.

    1. Then you showed her your Reverend?

      1. Timeloose

        It was more of a game of hide the Bishop.

    2. Nephilium

      The Rev was the headliner of the Car Show this year (and a couple years back).

    3. straffinrun

      Vegas is my favorite American city by far. I wish I could’ve visited it in her 70’s, but it was still great in the 80’s.

  10. Timeloose

    Nice Hemi in the hotrod.

  11. I enjoy Vegas. I enjoy Rockabilly.

    Sounds like fun.

    What I really wanna hear about is the suburban forests of Cleveland. As a child of the West, I’m used to dryness such that “suburbs” is analogous to “tract housing with nothing else”.

    PS: Go to Vegas on New Year’s. Your liver will hate you and you’ll catch an STD. NYE 2001 in Vegas and I caught the clap from one (I don’t know which) of two girls whose names I don’t remember. It was awesome.

    1. Nephilium

      There’s a whole series of parks all around (and through) the city of Cleveland. You can bike almost a full 100 miles through the parks with minimal road riding.

      I’ve been to Vegas for a New Year’s. 2003-2004 IIRC. Three casinos lost power that day, and there wasn’t a peep about it in the news at all.

      1. MikeS

        Because it was the heist of the century and the mob didn’t want anyone to know it was successful.

        1. Nephilium

          That was the joke we were telling the rest of the trip.

      2. You da man!

        My sis lived in Pittsburgh for 10 years and I was always envious. I think the Midwest is a great place. Beautiful sights, kind people and, from what I’ve seen, friendly beautiful women. I’m from the land of Blue Meth so the Mistake by the Lake is preferable 🙂 .

    2. Suthenboy

      Why do you think it was just one of them?

  12. A Leap at the Wheel

    1) How much of the denim was American made, and how much of it was Japanese?

    2) What are the best Rockabillie albums put out in the last 5 or 10 years?

    The men have it easy, bowling shirts and work shirts are the standard, with a couple of zoot suits and the like being worn. If you have hair, it’s either a high and tight or held up into a pompadour. The women have a much harder time dolling themselves up, but they go through the work and it shows.

    I can only assume you’ve never tried to actually work greasy dego hair into a high pomp with Murray’s

    1. A Leap at the Wheel

      (Although every time I try to get into Rockabilly, I get sidetracked by Gothic Americana, so it might not stick anyway)

      1. Nephilium

        The vendors there are a mix of vintage denim and new American made denim.

        The best albums one is a bit tougher… a lot of the classics came out over 30 years ago. if you’re getting sidetracked by Gothic Americana, you should definitely check out the Horrorpops. The Delta Bombers are more recent and play a more traditional style. I myself tend towards the psychobilly style which blends in some punk, faster beats, and classic horror films.

        1. A Leap at the Wheel

          I’ll check them out. I’m not into punk… like, at all. But those might be a good fit.

    2. What are the best Rockabillie albums put out in the last 5 or 10 years?

      I liked this song, didn’t listen to the album so can’t say if it’s a winner or no.

  13. Rhywun

    Not my cup of tea but always appreciate these reports from the outpost!

  14. Timeloose

    Imelda May, Mayhem is pretty good. I saw this chick around 2010 and she was great live.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4qJXTR7SyBQ

    1. BakedPenguin

      Good guitarist. Also, she’s cute.

  15. egould310

    Nice writeup Neph. Did your girl go as Rosie the Riveter or as Bettie Page?

    Also, Charles Phoenix is a gas, daddy-o!!

  16. commodious spittoon
  17. CPRM

    If you have hair, it’s either a high and tight or held up into a pompadour.

    Some Fallout Cosplayers could join in and go unnoticed….

  18. Rhywun

    OT – Today in best timeline ever:

    Mayor Bill de Blasio grew hoarse shouting over the cranked-up crooning of Frank Sinatra tunes playing in the Trump Tower lobby as he tried to promote his “Green New Deal.”

    […]

    De Blasio told his backers and the hecklers, “Clearly the Trump Organization is a little sensitive to the fact that we’re calling them out for what they are doing to the climate but we are not backing down.”

    1. Gustave Lytton

      We will take your money.

      Some honesty.

      1. Suthenboy

        Yeah, I saw that. Like that wasn’t the plan all along. Like they aren’t going to do it no matter.
        Fucking commies. Apparently there are enough morons in NYC to elect the guy.
        Rhy… brother, you need to get the hell out of there.

      2. Rhywun

        I’m surprised he’s even in town rather than jetting off to Iowa or New Hampshire (again) on his “heal the Earth” tour.

        1. CPRM

          Those dumb hicks aren’t where the money is.

          1. Heroic Mulatto

            NH ranks #7 of states with the most households 1M or higher per capita.

          2. CPRM

            Yeah, seven, hence being ghosted, which makes them want him more.

          3. Heroic Mulatto

            No, we really don’t.

          4. CPRM

            “Who You Callin’ We?!” *Tropic Thunder clip I can’t find right now*

    2. one true athena

      that was so hilarious, the clip of him doing his speech while the Trump troll team went up and down the escalators behind him with their signs. A for effort guys!

      1. Rhywun

        LOL – I hadn’t watched that. Classic!! What a maroon that guy is.

  19. Spudalicious

    Thanks for the article, Neph! I like Vegas in very small, expensive doses. Some of the restaurants are world class.

    Speaking of restaurants, if any of you west coasters find yourself in Bend, looking for food, the bbq shrimp at Zydeco are a mandatory experience.

  20. Suthenboy

    OT: A while back I described a conversation I had with my grandfather when I was about 15 years old and thought I knew something. I argued that prohibition was a huge mistake and a failure. My grandfather countered with “You weren’t there. You didn’t see it. Crime was out of control. Dopeheads and drunks were everywhere like locusts”
    Someone here argued that that was an exaggeration.

    I was reading today and someone touched on the contemporary drug war. They pointed out that the problems we have today are nothing compared to the post-civil war years. During the war opioids use became widespread, their discovery by American battlefield docs was considered a miracle. Remember that for most
    of the war the only anesthetics available were half a dozen burly knuckleheads holding you down while the doc went at you with a bone saw. Medical professionals had little to no experience with the kind of addiction they were helping foment.
    After the war the govt cut loose thousands and thousands (who knows how many?) of drug addicts. Out in the cold and on their own. Most of them became lifelong dopeheads. I have heard tell of those years and how bad it was, exponentially worse than what we see today.
    I had previously argued that Prohibition was really the culmination of the Whiskey Rebellion. I am not retracting that, I will still argue that case that the Whiskey Rebellion dates from 1791-1933, but I had forgotten about the post war plague of dopeheads because it barely gets mentioned in history books. That was definitely an aggravating factor. What my grandfather saw was the tail end of that disaster. He wasn’t exaggerating it just seems like it now to us because as he pointed out…we weren’t there. We didn’t see it.

    That just popped in my head because some bobblehead was on TV yapping about the opioid ‘epidemic’ now being unprecedented and ‘like nothing we have seen before’. That is patently false.

    1. CPRM

      Why is addiction, in and of it’s self a bad thing? This is the question I’ve found no has an answer to. I’m not saying it’s a good thing, but why is it a bad thing?

      1. blackjack

        Whether it’s bad or not, you get to do bad things to yourself. As long as you’re not fucking with others, you have every right. Eventually, those who can quit, will and those who can’t will serve as an example. Mankind and government especially, have no business trying to thwart your self destructiveness. Never mind that the best we can do is to destroy you even more and faster.

        1. Suthenboy

          +1 ‘best we can do’ added methanol.

      2. Rhywun

        I don’t think it’s the “in and of itself” that’s a bad thing, for most people. More the “being a layabout, shitting on the sidewalks, and being an enormous expense on the rest of us” part.

        1. CPRM

          But, it seems the common attack is “You could get addicted!!!!” So? If you can point to a problem with said addiction that’s one thing, but the most common attack is on how one can become addicted. Believe you me, I’m not personally for drug use or abuse, but when they say water down alcohol abuse down to what was common drinking just a decade ago, it helps no one, and people who take opioids to manage pain aren’t the same as those who inject to get high, but it’s all veiled under this threat of addiction.

          1. Count Potato

            Availability doesn’t cause addiction, otherwise everyone would be an alcoholic.

          2. Rhywun

            But, it seems the common attack is “You could get addicted!!!!” So?

            Those people are politicians, or act like one. No surprise they are control freaks. I think what you’re talking about is not as common among regular folk.

            Or I’m just being charitable – always a possibility.

          3. CPRM

            Combatting Midwest Cons, addiction is always the tact.

        2. straffinrun

          That’s what Jane says.

      3. Suthenboy

        The only way someone can make any convincing argument to me as to why a drug should be contraband is if they can show that using that drug removes a person’s agency. That argument can be made for certain drugs for certain people.
        Whatever you think in principle the reality of it is that some people behave as if they have no agency. They become dysfunctional and so can’t hold a job or earn any meaningful amount of money. Their whole life becomes about acquiring more drug, often at the expense of others.

        Of course the drug warrior has painted himself into a corner with that. If the person has no agency then they can’t be held accountable for their behavior.
        I argue that those people should be penalized for whatever crimes they commit, not for the drug use itself. Toss them in the Clink for robbery or assault, not for use of or possession of contraband.

        1. Count Potato

          It’s prohibition that makes drugs expensive. Bayer marketed heroin as the most economical way to make cough syrup.

        2. straffinrun

          Authentic, Give this a listen if you have time. Pure evil government policies.

          https://mises.org/library/reefer-madness-government-efforts-criminalize-marijuana-0

          1. straffinrun

            Autocorrect thinks “Suthen” is “authentic”.

        3. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

          What Suthen said.

        4. Pope Jimbo

          The problem with a lot of drugs is that a certain amount of the users will really go off the rails and no longer be able to function.

          If the government is going to “do something” about drugs, a far more humane and effective thing to do would be to legalize everything and use the sin taxes to build centers where addicts could get drugs. The center could also offer beds, showers and toilets. If they wanted treatment, there would be counselors right there.

          Let’s be honest, legalizing all drugs will increase the number of addicts. However, that doesn’t mean that there will be more crime or disease.

          *Yes, it would be even better if the govt did nothing and let private charity build and run the centers, but one battle at a time.

    2. Spudalicious

      You missed the part where the proponents of Prohibition were directly tied into the first wave of the Progressive movement. It was the epitome of “Government knows best”.

      1. Suthenboy

        Another factor rarely mentioned are the real motives of the govt…same then as now: Money. The Green New Deal is about the environment…my ass.
        People regularly used whiskey as currency. Given a choice between whiskey (intrinsic value) and currency (useless paper with numbers printed on it) people chose whiskey every time. The govt is not going to tolerate that. That is why they started taxing whiskey and not corn or cotton…to force people to use the govt issued currency. By taxing whiskey and demanding payment in govt. currency they were trying to destroy whiskey’s value as currency. It was always about the money, thus the derogative prohibition era term ‘revenooooers’.
        The progressives were and are all about power and money. They don’t give a fuck about any of the horseshit they crow incessantly about. Power and money, nothing else.

        You are correct and the progs now are no different than their puritan ancestors.

        Still, at the time, a lot of regular shmoes thought there was a good case for prohibition. Fortunately it didn’t take them long to figure out their mistake. That period passed not because of prohibition but because the flood of dopeheads got old and died off.

        1. Spudalicious

          And currently, a lot of the regular shmoes are on board with socialism, the green new deal, and a slew of other proggy ideas. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Fortunately, it looks like we may be on the cusp of the current proggy movement going to same way as the last proggy movement. I think the average voter is getting tired of their shit.

          1. Suthenboy

            I think so too. My grandmother told me at the end of their last run publicly admitting you were a progressive would get you lynched. Looking at the level of batshittery they are pushing now I think we are going to soon be eating our popcorn and laughing while we watch the lunatic fringe crawl back under their rocks.

    3. Count Potato

      I read that at one point, prior to prohibition, the typical opioid addict was a midwestern housewife. The Sears catalog used to sell heroin kits.

      1. Gustave Lytton

        Ancient Chinese secret, huh?

        1. “My husband, some hotshot!

          Here’s his ancient Chinese secret — smack!”

      1. Rhywun

        Gosh, that really changed my confidence in the DEA’s honesty. Or, you know, didn’t.

        1. Suthenboy

          You will be right much more than wrong if you just assume everything you hear from a govt source is a bald faced lie.

          1. Suthenboy

            Oh, and if the source is the UN or in any way connected to the UN making that assumption will put you in the right 100 fucking % of the time.

    4. Suthenboy

      Part of the point I was trying to make is that history is complicated. It is a fool’s task to hold the past to todays standards. There are a million small and not so small factors that went into the decisions that people of the past made and we can never know what all of them were. The best we can do is hold ourselves today to our standards…something most people fail miserably at anyway.

      Govt created black markets are evil and we should make the fuckers stop doing it. yeah, I know, fat chance. It creates to many opportunities for them to get their hands in our pockets. They will never give it up by choice.

  21. SP

    Today’s baking. 100% sourdough ciabatta. Doesn’t suck.

    1. Spudalicious

      Daaammmnnn.

    2. CPRM

      It would be better if it was meat.

      1. Old Man With Candy

        No, not really. This was truly carbohydrate perfection.

        1. CPRM

          You guys missed my [REDACTED] BBQ yesterday, I know you wouldn’t have enjoyed, but I know SP would have and ‘thanked’ you real hard. It’s that good, something non meat can’t be.

          1. Old Man With Candy

            Dammit, sorry. I was… otherwise occupied (if you read Twitter, you’ll know why).

          2. commodious spittoon

            Why…?

          3. commodious spittoon

            I probably should have specified which why I’m asking. All of them. All of the whys.

          4. CPRM

            Is tacos the answer?

          5. Spudalicious

            Red headed grifter?

          6. Old Man With Candy

            Of course.

          7. Gustave Lytton

            I missed it too. Looked and didn’t see a [redacted] post. Must have been [redacted]ed.

          8. CPRM

            There wasn’t a post, but I did make comments.

            CPRM on May 12, 2019 at 8:30 am
            Just put a small pork butt in with some apple wood smoke. Smells good already. Once that’s far enough along it’ll be joined by some [REDACTED] BBQ.

      2. Spudalicious

        This is what’s known as a “meat wrapper”.

    3. straffinrun

      How do you make that? Worth the effort?

      1. SP

        Super easy. More than worth the (almost-non-existent) effort.

        I could write a post….

        1. straffinrun

          For Dummies version, plees.

          1. SP

            Seriously. Sourdough starter (which you can make at home from scratch in as little as 5 days), flour, water, a little olive oil (although not strictly traditional), and salt. That’s all that’s in it and the process is mostly hands-off.

    4. Suthenboy

      That is begging for butter and honey or butter and garlic. Hell, do one half with each…and a touch of sweet basil on the garlic half.

      1. Spudalicious

        I’ve done ciabatta before and that is one fine loaf. You are not wrong on the proper additions.

        1. SP

          Awww. Thanks.

          1. Spudalicious

            That loaf of bread, cheese, olive oil, and a superb bottle, or two, on the patio is a day worth living.

        2. Suthenboy

          No kidding. Look at those air pockets..I mean unfilled butter chambers. They are perfection.

          1. SP

            Thank you!

    5. Chafed

      Man that looks good.

      1. SP

        It is! 🙂

      2. Yes, it’s bread like that which prevents me from becoming truly low-carb.

        I can go for a few days on very low carb, and the pounds just shed right off (great to do if you’ve added a few pounds over a vacation, for example) but I just crave a good sandwich made with bread like that.

        SP, if you can invent low-carb bread that looks and no doubt tastes like that, you will be a billionaire.

  22. Playa Manhattan

    My best friend from college grew up in Vegas. He took me to the Orleans.

    Do they still have the $2 steak and eggs after 1am?

    1. CPRM

      The late night specials were the only way I survived as a college kid in vegas 16yrs ago.

    2. Ownbestenemy

      No. Southpoint (another off strip hotel) offers 5.99 steak and eggs after midnight though.

      Cheap food is no longer to be had in Vegas.

      1. Playa Manhattan

        It appears that I’m older than I thought.

  23. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

    My best friend is rockabilly. Married a burlesque girl some years back. Took me to see the Flametrick Subs in Deep Ellum 20-odd years ago, and it was one of the best concerts I’ve been to, even though it isn’t really my cup o’ tea, and I don’t really like live music.

    After the first 2-4 years after they got married, contact has dwindled to almost nothing between to two of us. Hell, I talk to his son more than him. I don’t know if it’s a perceived lack of common ground, or their continued travel that seems to take them away to various rockabilly-ish things, or if I said/did something wrong. Of course, not a slam against rockabilly culture.

    /smdh

    1. Rhywun

      Funny, one of my oldest/best friends has been doing the bowling-shirt and two-tone shoes thing for 15 years or so and married a burlesque chick. But I don’t think they’re “rockabilly”, at all. We all hung out together at the goth clubs before going our separate ways. He was a new-wave kid when I met him. *shrugs*

      1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

        My friend has been in ‘the scene’ for quite some time now. The couples got along fine, so I’m not quite sure what made them ghost us. I know they’ve been trying to start their own lounge, and have been having a rough go at getting it out of the idea stage. That seems to have sapped some of his will to communicate directly with me.

        I know he does FB, but, I refuse to get back on. My wife will let me know about some of his updates every once in a while.

        1. Suthenboy

          A rough go, huh?

          In Louisiana if you want to open a bar you are required to give some ownership to the mob. They control liquor distribution. Want to serve liquor in your bar? Ante up.

          When old Joe Korn died his succession contained a small percent interest in every bar in the state. Every single one.

          I just assumed it is that way everywhere.

          1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

            From what little I know, this has been more of finding a “suitable” location. That’s more about whatever would be good for them, their perceived customers, $, etc. I think there might have been another person involved on the cooking side of things. Don’t know if they factor into the difficulties.

            Sucks being out of the loop for a friend’s struggles.

    1. CPRM

      Well, closer to my thing than Marky Mark…

    2. Suthenboy

      There is no ‘your truth’. There is truth and falsity. Truth is objective, not subjective. dummy.
      I will give them one thing: If they wanted to shoot their credibility right in the dick they accomplished that in spades.

      *ducks*

      1. straffinrun

        Wait, “speak your truth” doesn’t mean “deuce your drawers”?

        1. Suthenboy

          I am trying to work out a play on the old ‘shit in one hand and put your feelings (in this case ‘your truth’) in the other and see which weighs more.
          Ambien isn’t cooperating with my attempt.

          1. straffinrun

            Hold your truth in one hand and your shenis in the other…

    3. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

      A real billboard?

      I dunno, but, a real reason to gouge my eyes out.

      1. straffinrun

        Gonna need more than 3 billboards in Ebbing.

        1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

          That was fantastic, straff. Of course, the fat will burn a lot more easily.

    4. Rhywun

      Google Maps shows a different Calvin Klein ad in the same space.

      1. straffinrun

        Suppose it could’ve came out after google took the pic. Honestly, if that isn’t real and someone just used that chick’s pic, that would be a nasty thing to do. I couldn’t find it with a google search.

        1. Rhywun

          Suppose it could’ve came out after google took the pic.

          Oh, sure. Those billboards change all the time.

  24. BakedPenguin

    Huh.

    1. CPRM

      So much acid was consumed that day the world supply dropped by 80%.

  25. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

    Umm….Matthew? Who is this ‘We’ you bring up?

    Seems to me his examples were all individuals making decisions for themselves, not some collectivist bullshit.

    So, Matty–you don’t like it, you foot their bills.

    1. CPRM

      Ok, I am poor enough that I am on medicaid. But I’m not so poor that my $160 a month meds should be $1 a month. The evil of this program is that it does that. One of my meds is $160 a month without insurance BECAUSE programs like medicaid and insurance underpay. Our system is so fucked up that no one can keep their hands clean.

      1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

        “Underpay”? The government?

        Someone’s been co-opted by the Patriarchy…..

    2. Rhywun

      The question is whether we should be rationing on the basis of the need of patients rather than on that of wealth

      And I’m sure you’re just the right person to make those decisions.

      1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

        Well, he’s a damn sight more compassionate than those Rethuglikkkan assholes, so, why not???

  26. PieInTheSky

    You should not encourage classic cars. new cars for everyone. The automotive semiconductor market is not as strong as it could be.

    Good morning glibs.

    1. Rhywun

      Good evening.

      1. Chafed

        That’s great. I had no idea someone used Type O Negative as the soundtrack for the movie. Totally appropriate.

    2. Sean

      Good morning.

  27. Chafed

    Rhywun I don’t think you were around when I posted this during the afternoon.

    https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/05/13/blacks-attack-hasidim-brooklyn-deblasio-blames-trump-white-supremacy/

    How does DeBlasio get away with this? I get TDS is popular in NYC. There is also a significant Jewish community. Are they letting him skate?

    1. Rhywun

      He gets away with it because his base is white progs and they take Jews (and blacks) for granted. This same story could have been written in any of the last five or six decades with only the names changed.

      1. Chafed

        Are you sure? I would guess Ed Koch would have handled it differently.

  28. Lachowsky

    Woodrow Wilson is the root cause of the warfare state we currently pay taxes to.

    Prove me wrong.

    1. Lachowsky

      Christ on a crutch. I’m watching an Oliver stone documentary on WW2. Oliver stone is anti-war guy. (Like I am) and this motherfucker keeps on heaping praise on FDR.

      I dont get it. How the fuck can one square that circle.

      1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

        Just look at all the Japanese he interred social/jobs programs he forced others to fund–how can you not worship that???

        1. Lachowsky

          Infuriating. To say the least.

          1. Sir Digby’s The Golden Age of Ballooning

            Surprising* that “anti-war” leftists are such authoritarians.

            *not surprising

          2. Tejicano

            FDR is one of the saints of the socialist religion and is expeshully relevant now.

          3. Akira

            “Progressives” will gleefully tar and feather any figure from history who may have made some racist remarks against blacks but otherwise did nothing, yet they worship this president who ordered the only explicitly race-based internment in modern history.

            It’s one of my missions in life to deny them that comfortable contradiction whenever the opportunity arises. They’ve gotten away with it for far too long.

    1. SP

      “The canned pasta and pineapple chunk pie no self-respecting New Yorker would touch will run you $7.99, but it’s only available in New Zealand — for now.”

      Well, New Zealand.

      1. l0b0t

        Your ciabatta looks amazing.

        1. SP

          Thanks!

      2. Between the gun control and this abomination, my desire to move to NZ went from small to nonexistent.

    2. Suthenboy

      It takes a seriously twisted mind to come up with something that monstrous.

  29. If you don’t have appropriate garb, then the vendors will be more than happy to help you out there, but bring cash as some do not take credit/debit cards..

    I’m not fancy enough for any place with a dress code.

    1. -1 shirt
      -2 shoes
      -all service